Two Men Who Identify as Women Become First ‘Transgender’ Nominees for U.S. Congress

snow-plowright-compressedTwo men who identify as women have become the first “transgendered” individuals in the nation to be nominated for U.S. Congress.

Misty Snow, 30, is running as a Democrat against Utah’s current sitting senator, Mike Lee. Born in 1985, Snow says he has always identified as a female, but didn’t seek hormonal treatments until two years ago.

“Becoming a woman is something that she has wanted for a really long time, ever since high school,” his mother, Linda Pace, told People Magazine. “I think that by running for the Senate, she’s showing people that a person’s gender isn’t what matters. People are people. Everybody matters. And that is Misty’s message.”

Snow’s focal issues are income inequality, raising the minimum wage, maternity leave, climate change and homosexual and transgender protections. He debated Lee, a Mormon, on the latter issue recently at Brigham Young University.

“Regardless of what your beliefs about marriage are, or regardless of what your neighbor might believe about marriage, neither you nor your neighbor should ever be discriminated against,” Lee said in speaking of his proposed First Amendment Defense Act.

“The problem with that is it pretty much legalizes discrimination in the name of religion,” Snow responded. “I would encourage religious institutions to treat all students equally, regardless of whether or not they are LGBT.”

In Colorado, Misty Plowright, 33, is running as a Democrat against incumbent Doug Lamborn, a non-denominational Christian. Plowright, who is married to a woman, is also involved in a polyamorous relationship with a man who cohabitates with him and his wife.

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“Two years ago we were in Vegas for the World Series of Poker. We got him a ring. We consider it to be our marriage to him,” he told the Guardian in July.

Plowright says, however, that he isn’t asked about his lifestyle much on the campaign trial.

“A lot of people don’t like identity politics,” he told reporters. “They want to know what I think about taxes, about guns, about property rights, about jobs, about veterans’ issues, about health care.”

Plowright’s primary platform issues are Veteran care, domestic energy production, health care and climate control. He also says he has a solution to abortion: artificial wombs.

“You can terminate a pregnancy without terminating a fetus,” he told KOAA-TV last month. “Pro-choice side is happy because you don’t have a government bureaucrat in a woman’s uterus. Pro-life side is happy because, hey, babies aren’t getting murdered anymore.”

While both won in the primaries, they acknowledge that their chances of winning in Tuesday’s election are unlikely.

19th century statesman Daniel Webster, who held office both in the House and Senate, once said, “If the power of the gospel is not felt throughout the length and breadth of the land, anarchy and misrule, degradation and misery, corruption and darkness will reign without mitigation or end.”

Proverbs 14:34 declares, “Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.”


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  • Brianna Michelle Clark

    It’s obvious the author is against transgender people, by refusing to use the pronouns that even of the people article’s about own mother used. So Heather, or he, is not really reporting the news. He is just making an opinion piece, heavily influenced by his own prejudice.

  • Bindlestiff

    Well, we’ve got lunatics in Congress already, so if these MEN are elected, they’ve lowered the bar even further on mental health.

    These poor deluded people do not need enablers, they need people to bring them back to reality.

    • Amos Moses

      They should fit right in with all the debauchery there ….. good career choice for them ………

      • TwoRutRoad

        Isn’t Congress something like 90% Christian?

        • Nidalap

          Actually, a lot of them seem to be trans-Christian. You know, identifying but not really…

        • Amos Moses

          it is my observation that once a person is elected to that level that are very soon corrupted …… or they were corrupted to begin with ….. and just saying they are a christian does not make them one ……. nor is it a vaccine from doing wrong ………….

          • TwoRutRoad

            I’m inclined to agree with you. It’s too bad openly atheist people wouldn’t stand a chance of being elected. It would be interesting to see if things improved.

          • Nidalap

            What, aren’t the closeted atheists doing enough to see? 🙂

          • TwoRutRoad

            The problem is, we can’t know unless they admit to being atheists. As of now, they claim to be Christian, and that’s all we can know.

          • Nidalap

            So no then? 🙂

          • TwoRutRoad

            Correct. When they loudly and proudly say “I’m an atheist” (and give up their political career) and they act like I hope they will, maybe we’ll have some real work done to improve our government.

          • Nidalap

            Dream the big dream! 🙂

    • Leslie Gray

      I doubt that the lunatics in Congress would be able to understand the difference between a mental health issue and a broken shoe lace. After all, the people that voted them into office think that being transgender is a mental health issue.

      • Mr Cleats

        It is.

      • ReikiRobyn

        You’re right, and the medical profession is right,Leslie. It is not.

        • AlphaOmega

          You’re a man. Why do you dress up like a woman?

          • Charly Townsend

            because she is a woman. it’s quite simple.

          • ReikiRobyn

            I’ll show you mine if you show me yours.

          • AlphaOmega

            I can barely stomach the face photos that the trannies post. A photo of the faux crotch is too horrible to contemplate. Sane men do not part with their privates. Even religious men who take vows of celibacy do not mutilate themselves. The deluded fools think you have reinvented yourselves, you have made yourselves grotesque and hideous.

          • D. C. Phillips

            Don’t come back until you know what the heck you’re talking about, because you obviously don’t. Suss it out for yourself; there’s plenty of information out there. Don’t worry, you couldn’t pay me enough to show a picture of my crotch, and if you “can barely stomach the face photos that the [women] post,” you have bigger problems than that.

          • AlphaOmega

            Another self-gelding lunatic.
            You all belong in padded cells with big locks.
            Trannies are hideous, there’s no disputing it.

  • nineleven

    Proverbs 14:34 declares, “Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.”
    amen to that!

  • Leslie Gray

    I continue to be disappointed, though not the least bit surprised by the mean spiritedness of people that claim the loudest to be Christians. Our founding father Thomas Jefferson had these words to say about religious leaders.

    “In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own. It is error alone that needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.”
    ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Horatio Spofford, 1814

    We need to get to the point where everyone is respected, no matter the conditions of those people’s births. Sadly, there are those that place their personal beliefs above the lives of anyone else.

    • pretap

      Leslie Gray, we stand with “God’s Word” (Romans 3:4) and that means more than anyone’s on this planet. You and others very sadly who think anyone who disagrees with you is a bigot, have NO idea just how much Christians (and God even more) really DO care about and love you, but God/Jesus ARE More than love (They’re also Holy, Righteous, and Just, 1 Peter 1:15-17). ‘You’ mention ‘religious’ leaders here but the Bible (and Christ) speaks “against” religion (Mark 7:8-9), because it’s “mankind” driven and doesn’t hold a candle to God’s True Word. Lastly, since ‘you’ decided to post this, might I ask why you didn’t post the other things Jefferson mentioned from the Bible (which Are just as IMPORTANT), that were even more moving then what you’ve posted here? Will keep you in prayer even though you didn’t ask for it.

      • Leslie Gray

        Somehow, I doubt that you are referring to any of these quotes by Mr Jefferson.
        “Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 10, 1787
        “I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another.” ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson, letter to Elbridge Gerry, January 26, 1799

        12. “History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil government. This marks the lowest grade of ignorance of which their civil as well as religious leaders will always avail themselves for their own purposes.”
~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in letter to Alexander von Humboldt, December 6, 1813

        “Because religious belief, or non-belief, is such an important part of every person’s life, freedom of religion affects every individual.

        State churches that use government power to support themselves and force their views on persons of other faiths undermine all our civil rights. Moreover, state support of the church tends to make the clergy unresponsive to the people and leads to corruption within religion. Erecting the “wall of separation between church and state,” therefore, is absolutely essential in a free society. We have solved … the great and interesting question whether freedom of religion is compatible with order in government and obedience to the laws. And we have experienced the quiet as well as the comfort which results from leaving every one to profess freely and openly those principles of religion which are the inductions of his own reason and the serious convictions of his own inquiries.”
        ~Founding Father Thomas Jefferson: in a speech to the Virginia Baptists, 1808

        While Jefferson did respect the rights of others to believe as they wish, he had no tolerance for religion mixing with government.

      • rhysharper

        God’s words says nothing about being transgender or not. Literally nothing.

      • Brianna

        You speak of the Bible like it is something separate from religion and “religious leaders”. Therein lies the problem. The basis of modern Christianity IS the Bible as “God’s True Word” but that Bible is simply another book that is open to whatever translation/ interpretation the reader is looking for. Unfortunately, too many “devout Christians” these days have completely overlooked the “love thy neighbor as thyself” part of the Bible and gone straight to the parts that they can manipulate and misinterpret to fit their own misguided concept of right and wrong .

    • Rebecca Spellmeyer

      The problem is that love and acceptance has become the same as full support and it is not. You can love and accept someone even though you disagree with their lifestyle. That is a Christian ideal that liberals want to be rid of so they push social policy. Let me ask you this, if a man breaks into your home and steals your belongs and you hate the choice he made to take your things does that automatically mean you hate him as a person?

      • Leslie Gray

        There are two things I hate completely and do not forgive. Liars and thieves. Ah, but you would say that it is better to turn the other cheek. The problem with that belief is that you have no idea what turning the other cheek really means. Defiance in the face of tyranny.

      • Charly Townsend

        “You can love and accept someone even though you disagree with their lifestyle.” yes but to do that (in this case transgender people) you should be calling them their real names and pronouns, not calling them by their birth name and pronouns and just letting them live their lives. it also means being ok with LGBT+ being taught to kids, i don’t agree with evolution, the big bang, islam and catholicism but i respect the fact that others do and have no issue with it being taught in schools.
        the fact that Jesus nor anyone else in the bible says anything against transgender people is a sign that we should be at least acsepting, loving and respectful towards them and in my opinion should be fully supporting them.

    • Steven

      Our founding father Thomas Jefferson
      Yes! Although Thomas Jefferson is a large figure in the historical narrative of the United States, albeit not the only one, you need to think rationally when considering the volumes of letters, quotes and messages he sent. I have a hard time believing you’ve read everything of Thomas Jefferson.

      In addition, you would have to demonstrate that when talking about liberties, freedoms and respect, he considered gender (miss) identification relative to the argument and that it was anything other than mental instability. You are arguing from your anarchist worldview.

      In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty
      Man centered! Remember. Although Catholicism and Islam have a political agenda (gets into historical relevance and first principles), Christianity does not. Scripturally speaking, Christianity does not demand a religious control over people. Christianity only outlines an objective moral relevance that establishes the boundaries of what is naturally acceptable. The mean spiritedness that your worldview levels against the Christian is only dissonance.

      • Leslie Gray

        Thomas Jefferson is by no means the only figure in US government. Where did I ever once claim to have read all of Jefferson’s writings? Given that knowledge of the science of transgender identity did not yet exist, I would imagine that a man as obviously curious as Mr. Jefferson was, would have been directly involved in research to find more answers about those issues we still need to delve into.

        The wild west was anarchy, whereas conservatism is mental bedlam.

        I cannot find a point in history when Christianity once it existed, at the hands of man, did not demand conformity. I hold no ill will toward the Christian religion. I only hold up a mirror for the practitioners to look into.

        • Steven

          Where did I ever once claim to have read all of Jefferson’s writings?
          Mine was a reflective statement not an accusation. The rational being Thomas Jefferson has written many things in reflection of society, culture and government and to use him as a cornerstone of historical relevance for one side or the other would be fruitless when positioning for argumentative superiority.

          I would imagine…
          But your imagination wouldn’t have any historical support. however, his actions and the country’s initial growth would support it (country) was in lockstep to the principles of morality, which are paramount in Christian practices.

          The wild west was anarchy
          Yes, there was an untamed aspect of the west, but the country was growing.

          whereas conservatism is mental bedlam.
          I find this funny while watching the liberal’s actions after the 2016 elections.

          I cannot find a point in history when Christianity once it existed, at the hands of man, did not demand conformity.
          A little hypocrisy on your behalf; seeing that your side of society is demanding the Christian abandon what they know to be morally true; in order to accommodate an issue that is clearly moral in stature. This is a matter of authority: God’s authority or man’s. If you argue a man-centered authority, then your moral compass is directionless. However, if you argue God’s authority, you always have an unchangeable point of reference to prevent society from turning out like Sodom and Gomorrah or the time of Noah.

          This is not a matter of demanding, but recognizing authority; by understanding objective moral principles outside of our own selfish proclivities.

          • Leslie Gray

            So, basically the best you can do is to express an opposing opinion and never once offer up any evidence to back up your claims. At least you do have the excuse that this site will not allow links to be posted. After all, it’s never good to allow any evidence of wrong doing to be displayed for the faithful to see.

            Until such time as the newly minted arbiters of conservative faith come to power and actually succeed in remaking this nations laws into those of a conservative theocracy, your religion still has no legal standing beyond the boundaries of your own life. You have no right at all to demand that anyone not a believer in your faith adhere to that set of beliefs for the sake of your own personal comfort.

            I’m not going to spend the time to go back and forth with you nit picking our way through each others posts in some demented tit for tat.

            Here are a few examples of the kinds of atrocities I referenced:
            The following list was only the beginning of the reign of terror against pagans by the founding members of your faith.

            As soon as Christianity was legal around 315 AD, more and more pagan temples were destroyed by Christian mob. Pagan priests were killed.

            Between 315 and 6th century thousands of pagan believers were slain.
            Examples of destroyed Temples: the Sanctuary of Aesculap in Aegaea, the Temple of Aphrodite in Golgatha, Aphaka in Lebanon, the Heliopolis.
            Christian priests such as Mark of Arethusa or Cyrill of Heliopolis were famous as “temple destroyer.”

            Pagan services became punishable by death in 356.

            Christian Emperor Theodosius (408-450) even had children executed, because they had been playing with remains of pagan statues. [DA469]
            According to Christian chroniclers he “followed meticulously all Christian teachings…”

            In 6th century pagans were declared void of all rights.
            In the early fourth century the philosopher Sopatros was executed on demand of Christian authorities.

            The world famous female philosopher Hypatia of Alexandria was torn to pieces with glass fragments by a hysterical Christian mob led by a Christian minister named Peter, in a church, in 415.

            The fun continues.

            Emperor Karl (Charlemagne) in 782 had 4500 Saxons, unwilling to convert to Christianity, beheaded.

            Peasants of Steding (Germany) unwilling to pay suffocating church taxes: between 5,000 and 11,000 men, women and children slain 5/27/1234 near Altenesch/Germany.

            Battle of Belgrad 1456: 80,000 Turks slaughtered.

            15th century Poland: 1019 churches and 17987 villages plundered by Knights of the Order. Victims unknown.

            16th and 17th century Ireland. English troops “pacified and civilized” Ireland, where only Gaelic “wild Irish”, “unreasonable beasts lived without any knowledge of God or good manners, in common of their goods, cattle, women, children and every other thing.” One of the more successful soldiers, a certain Humphrey Gilbert, half-brother of Sir Walter Raleigh, ordered that “the heddes of all those (of what sort soever thei were) which were killed in the daie, should be cutte off from their bodies… and should bee laied on the ground by eche side of the waie”, which effort to civilize the Irish indeed caused “greate terrour to the people when thei sawe the heddes of their dedde fathers, brothers, children, kinsfolke, and freinds on the grounde”.

            Tens of thousands of Gaelic Irish fell victim to the carnage at the hands of Patrick the traitor. Fossil records clearly show that there have never been any snakes or any other reptiles in Ireland.

            There has been no respite from the violence to this day. Shall I continue? Or is the truth too much for you?

  • Lee Anne

    We do not identify. We are.

    • Nidalap

      “…wrong.” You forgot the word at the end there…

      • MJ

        Nope, not wrong. Sorry you don’t understand that we are living, breathing, taxpaying souls just like yourself 🙁

        • Nidalap

          I do. But none of that will prevent a person from being wrong.

          • MJ

            and that person who is wrong? is you. Your understanding is 180 degrees out of phase with with the realities of the person’s life

          • Nidalap

            I’m rubber and you’re glue then.
            One of us is wrong and that probably is the one supporting the deluded…

          • Stéphanie Deceneux

            the thing is, the deluded one is not the one supporting trans people. guess who’s wrong, then…..

          • Nidalap

            Delusion always supports itself.

          • Stéphanie Deceneux

            words of a specialist….

          • TwoRutRoad

            Yep. Because the bible says the bible is true.

          • Nidalap

            And delusion says delusion is true…

          • TwoRutRoad

            That’s another way of putting it.

          • Charly Townsend

            “Because the bible says the bible is true.” you are making the mistake that nidalap has actually read the bible, as most extreme christians only repeat what some hateful, insecure, bible basher, asshole has cherry picked and taken out of context, to twist into facts, to try and excuse their views. if they had read the bible then they’d know that i says nothing against transgender people.

          • Brianna

            Thus we have Christianity

          • Dolly Roquette

            Therein lies the issue! You don’t need to polarise so. Good people don’t hurt others, (even with hateful words cause even that would make them a bit *bad*)! People can be right even with opposite opinions, (particularly in politics), in the sense of that which is *right* for the goose, ain’t necessarily right for tge gander. But dogma is the essence of western religion as much as it is steeped in a pathological need to control. People being free about their gender or sexuality, (otger than the clergy of course), cannot possibly be permitted this freedom if control is to be maintained!!
            Trans people aren’t deluded, they are physiologically and psychologically mismatched!
            Personally I find the behaviour of so-called grown adults, deferring to the opinions of an *imaginary friend*, who instructs them to hurt, hate, devalue and vilify fellow humanity, scarily delusional!! But hey! That’s just my opinion!
            ⚡💀⚡

          • Nidalap

            And opinions can be wrong. Sometimes, when someone knows deep down that they are wrong, they deny the whole concept of right and wrong.
            It’s kind of like jamming your fingers in your ears and yelling “I’M NOT LISTENING!!!” 🙂

          • Dolly Roquette

            Er, I know exactly what you mean… You are doing just that!! Experts give their opinions but you just ram yer fingers in your ears and shout “michael row the boat” at full voice!! Trans people go through years of expert professional evaluation, and when completely treated come out altogether *fixed*! The extreme *christian* approach is to vilify them with old irrelevant stories as a basis for outdated rhetoric. Bully them into conformity. Hideous behaviour that belongs in a zoo not modern life!
            ⚡💀⚡

          • Nidalap

            Back at ya again.
            Your side is just as much engaged in bullying folk into conformity.

          • D. C. Phillips

            More like self-defense.

          • Brianna

            Again….LMAO….you are a perfect example of your own statements

          • ReikiRobyn

            And that is certainly the way that Bible-Trumpers behave. “Three times married, con man, thief? Hey that’s okay; he’s not for the poor. I’ll vote for him.”
            .

          • D. C. Phillips

            Funny, that’s exactly what you are doing.

          • LeoMdE

            Rubber and glue? Seriously, are you twelve? And as for delusional, I’m not the one who believes in ancient tribal stories and invisible gods.

          • Nidalap

            You ARE the one answering as if you were the one conversing with me just then. Twelve indeed…

          • D. C. Phillips

            Science and medicine say you’re wrong. And the Bible does not say that you’re right. The God of the Bible is also the God of science and medicine. If that were not so, we’d still be using leeches and cutting off limbs without anesthesia.

          • Dolly Roquette

            So you are very sure you are right then??

          • Nidalap

            In this, yep.

          • Dolly Roquette

            Er….rrright! *rolls eyes*
            ⚡💀⚡

          • rhysharper

            Nidalap has no idea what she’s talking about. Bless her little heart.

          • Brianna

            And you are a perfect example of your own statement….just sayin’

      • Lee Anne

        Google clergy sexual abuse.Members of the clergy are the real imposters

    • Darren H

      Get a 2nd opinion,
      one from a sane person.

      • Ashley Williams

        Most trans people have to be evaluated by a professional to begin hormone treatments. And guess what? Hormone therapy is one of the most effective treatments in the entire DSM. The reason it works is because our brains developed for the opposite sex that we were assigned at birth. When you have the wrong hormones your brain doesn’t function properly. When you get the right ones its a difference between night and day.

      • Stéphanie Deceneux

        not yours, then…

  • james blue

    With the amount of “values voter leaders” casting those values aside to endorse Trump I thought we wouldn’t be hearing complaints about things like this anymore.

  • Crysta

    So many christians have fallen to the sins of Sodom…
    “Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.”

    Remove the sinners from Congress, and let America be American again!!!

    #VoteTrueVoteBlue

    • Leslie Gray

      Finally! Someone that knows the real story.

    • Nidalap

      Oh sure, THAT’S why the angels struck the men of the city blind. The weren’t being hospitable! ::Rolls eyes::

      • Crysta

        Actually, that was a very big deal back then… Homosexuality, was a normal part of society back then!

        Sodom was actually rather well known for its disdain, and sometimes even outright abuse/assault of travelers…

      • Dana Stinson

        Read your OT history and you’ll see that’s exactly what it is.

        • Nidalap

          Yeah, not so much.

          • Dana Stinson

            Awww. Look at you being all snarky. I’m so proud of you.

          • Nidalap

            Thanx! (^_^)

    • Steven

      Matthew Vine’s commentary on Sodom and Gomorrah is not Scripturally supported, and only reflects a man-centered ideology instead of “God-centered. However, those things that clarify the wickedness and abominations of Sodom and Gomorrah are clearly mentioned throughout the Bible. The “hospitality” argument is weak at the basic level.

      • Crysta

        If the stories were uncorrupted, maybe… Sadly, the “official” versions have been hideously mistranslated at best, and outright re-written at worst…

        The fact that christianity not only accepted, but celebrated same sex marriages for centuries, in the early days, says that this blasphemous hatred of same sex relations, is a very recent and man made abomination!

        Oh, and to further blow your mind, remember that Jesus not only BLESSED a same sex couple, but said “I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith.”

        The keys to this are two…
        pais – a word with only three meanings, Son, Slave, and Love Slave
        entimos doulos – translated as “honored slave”

        • Stéphanie Deceneux

          you’re right. the word “homosexuality” is being used in the bible since the 16th century. there is also some trouble with words like “malakoi” and the transaltion given for that word… and incidentally, the bible is a translation of a translation of a translation of a translation (and so on), and it had countless adaptations during the centuries. some verses were lost or removed (by mistake or on purpose), some were added….. the peshitta, in syriac language, is probably closer to the original text than the one whe knows. and there is that story between david and jonathan, who could be read in many ways – one being that it’s actually a gay love story.

        • Steven

          If the stories were uncorrupted…
          They aren’t, but would rather not go down that rabbit trail. I’d rather not spend the rest of my Sunday arguing Bart Ehrman, James White, Westcott and Hort material or the manuscripts they used.

          Here, you would be getting into the proper translation from Greek, that as you pointed out, can be translated in so many ways. I prefer to stay away from arguing about scholars that have a monetary stake in the game, thank you.

          Plus, the Bible is so written that nothing is out of place, except when people try to squeeze the notion of homosexuality into the mix. Then things just get crazy.

          The fact that christianity not only accepted, but celebrated same sex marriages
          Doesn’t make it right if they did–again, man centered–but I’d like to know your sources or where you get this. I’ve read nothing from the church father’s (reputable) that shows scriptural support of homosexuality or the celebration there of.

          Oh, and to further blow your mind…
          Wow! That is some serious imagination stretching. So, you’re telling me that, although, everywhere the Greek word ‘pais’ is used denotes child, maid, or servant except when it’s used in reference to the the centurion’s ‘pais’? In this case, it’s used to mean gay lover? You’re completely misguided here. This is a sad attempt of interpretation. Just the way the centurion describes his status should lead a rational person to understand the nature of the word.

          • Brianna

            I was raised Protestant Christian and now that I am unwelcome in the church that I grew up in, my eyes have been opened to the fact that The Bible is just a book that is open to ANY interpretation that serves the reader and supports their particular version of Christianity

        • Charly Townsend

          “Jesus not only BLESSED a same sex couple, but said “I tell you, not even in Israel have I found such faith.”” only asking because i’m curious not to argue it, what verses is that in?

      • D. C. Phillips

        I think you mean Matthew Henry; he also said that when the Ethiopian eunuch was baptized (Acts 8:38-39), Philip sprinkled his head, rather than immersing him.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    God made them men and it is wrong for them to live like women. Transgenderism is a detestable sin against God.
    “God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them. A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.” (Genesis ch.1, Deuteronomy ch.22)

    • Crysta

      By that distinction, women are men as well… Male and female are both men…

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        You guys are being too well-fed and are being bored and that’s why the West is trying to enslave mankind by imposing falsehood on sexuality. It’s worse than white men’s racism. Many Earthlings carry racism but this mental illness is unique to this century’s fattened bored West. You guys got weird by not-facing real need or crisis for the longest time unlike your hard-working parents or grand parents, having too much of nudity. Stop being bored and give poor mankind some break. Also stop bashing your superior Christian ancestors. They raised their own children and were more slender than the present generation.

        • Charly Townsend

          “that’s why the West is trying to enslave mankind by imposing ” do “”thefalsehood
          on sexuality. It’s a global mental slavery and worse than white men’s
          racism.” what? how is the west enslaving mankind though sexuallity? beinng transgenderhas nothing to do with sexuallity. how are LBGT rights and respecting LGBT people worse than racism?

          “Most Earthlings carry racism” do they? i don’t really have any racist thoughts, i don’t even take onboard a persons race when interacting with them, i just view them as a person, not as a dumb label.

          “this sexual mental illness is unique to this century’s fattened bored West.” two very hugh things wrong with that statement: one it’s not a mental illnes, it’s not classed as oone and is not treated as one, two it’s got nothing to do with sex or sexuallity, it’s to do with gender a totally different thing, three transgender people have exsited around the world since the dawn of time, there are many cultures that acsepted them in the past. before you weigh in on a topic or form an oppinion actually do some research into what that topic is.

          “You guys got weird by not-facing real need or crisis for the longest time” yes because there are no crisis’ today are there? oh wait there are loads!

          “unlike your hard-working parents or grand parents” i’m sure they would be hard working if the previous two generations hadn’t ruined the economy and if “christian” bussiness’ would employ them.

          “They raised their own children and were more slender than the present generation.” yeah and people who lived before the industrial revolution were thinner then they were but that doesn’t mean that we should all be armish does it.

          “You guys have too much bread” yes bread the root of all evil and a high source of fat. what are you talking about?

          “The Holy Bible is the only defense against the West’s filthy mental illness” maybe you should read it then and sort oout your mental illness’.

        • Brianna

          Wow, that’s a mouth full there Grace. “Superior Christian ancestors”? “more slender than the present generation”? I’m not sure what body type has to do with any of this and If you are trying to say that Trans people are rich and that’s why we are trans ( I think that’s what you were trying to say…I’m not really sure) I have news for you. The average trans person is likely to live at or below poverty level because of hateful business owners denying them jobs they are more than qualified for and hateful landowners that would deny them housing. I currently have $200 to my name and am employed full time doing the same job I’ve been doing for 28 yrs. I am far from rich but did what I absolutely needed to do to go on living. And that is all the time I have to waste on you…………..

    • Stéphanie Deceneux

      could you explain why god created a woman, by taking a part of a man to do it? since god created eve from adam’s rib, it makes her the first transgender woman…. or it means we are all designed to be both men and women, and god select what he wants for each of us. cisgender, (meaning you identify with what’s between your legs), intersex (having traits of both sexes) and transgender (meaning you do not identify with what’s between your legs), and everything in between are god’s creations, since he (or se, neither or both) created us to his image. and i will follow marie osmond, who said when she supoorted lgbt rights, that god created flowers with many colors…. last but not least, on a biological side, how do you explain not everybody is xx or xy? one of my best friend ever is xxxy, for that matter……

    • Dana Stinson

      I think you know not what that verse even means. Your attempt at using it implies you don’t. Besides, to follow this verse means you follow the ones around it as well. Good luck with that.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Read the Word of God to find life. You guys are giving whole mankind hard time again by going for sexual perversion. There is no luck but only God’s providence and sovereignty and justice in this world. He destroys every Sodom and avenge the creation. ( Romans ch.8, Jude ch.1)

        • D. C. Phillips

          Being transgender has NOTHING to do with sexual perversion. It has NOTHING to do with sex. Until you see it for what it really is, a physical condition, and drop the BS about it being sexual perversion, don’t bother talking to trans people about the love of Jesus; we’re not listening. Your false premises and false assumptions are getting people killed (both homicide and suicide).

          • Bob Johnson

            Read over Grace’s comment history – everything has to do with sexual perversion including lunar dating techniques.

          • D. C. Phillips

            Hmmm, lunar dating. Can you do that online? 😛

        • johndoe

          Who exactly is going for perversion?

    • Charly Townsend

      “God made them men and it is wrong for them to live like women.” how do you know that God didn’t make them transgender? what if being born in the wrong body is just another side effect of sin being in the world, just like being born disabled or being born with a learning disorder, etc?
      “”God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.” so what about those who are born with the sex of both male and female? did God not make them? God also made them with two legs, two arms, five toes, four fingers and a thumb, two fully working eyes, two fully working ears, etc but that doesn’t mean that everyone has those characteristics.
      “A woman must not wear men’s clothing, nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.” that’s not even about transgender people. that is at most about crossdressing, which is a completely different thing, as a transgender woman is a woman so can wear womens clothes and a transgender man is a man and can wear mens clothes. also these laws are of the old testement not of the new, this law is among those that we have no need to follow. tell me do you wear clothing of mix matrial? do you eat pork or any other unclean food? do you work on a saturday? When you build a new house, do you make a parapet for your roof? do you sacrifice goats to clean yourself of sin? do you still circumcise your male children? do you keep all of the laws of marraige in the old testement? do you neuter your pets? do you celebrate Passover, Shavu’ot and Sukkot? do you practice all of the laws of passover and other festivals?
      why is this one law the exception?

    • Ashley Williams

      God gives people birth defects all the time. My nephew was born with a mark on his forehead. I’m willing to bet no “Christian” would argue about him getting it removed. Well being transgender just simply means we were born different. Our brains developed for the opposite sex from what we are. So how is correcting our bodies to match our mind any different than my nephew correcting his body from that mark?

      Since you’re going to quote random BS bible verses let me ask you. Do you eat shrimp? If you do you’re clearly going to hell!! Do you eat pork? You’re going to hell!! Do you wear blended fabrics? I’m willing to bet you do since its almost impossible to stay away from it. Congrats! You’re going to hell. Since I’m going to hell anyway, I might as well live out my life as the gender that I am rather than the sex I was born as. Why do you people make such a big deal about genitals anyway? We’re talking about a minor part of your body and you practically worship them.

    • Brianna

      You know what….. we trans women, by your twisted, self-righteous way of thinking are doing nothing wrong then and we are not sinners. We are only wearing the clothes that we were born to wear after years of being forced by the way people like you perceived us, to wear the clothes of men. Also Grace, in case you didn’t realize it, if you’ve ever worn pants, jeans, slacks etc, you’ve worn men’s clothing. Therefore you are detestable in God’s eyes OMG :-0

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Women can wear things that are designed for women. Men cannot wear pants that are desined for women. You guys are too well-fed and got mental illness as a result. Stop bullying normal mankind.

        • D. C. Phillips

          Proof? Didn’t think so. Thanks for playing.

        • Charly Townsend

          “got mental illness as a result.” it’s not a mental illness, read a book or do a google search.
          “Stop bullying normal mankind” trans people: “can we be treated with respect and treated as the gender that we are?” anti trans “christians”: “we don’t want to serve you in are bussniss, we want to call you by a different name and the wrong pronouns, we will kick you out of your home and disown you, we will make it illegal to use public facilities, we will refuse to employ you or fire you, we will protest at your funeral, we will hold sighs condeming you and yell in your face, we will refuse to teach you in schools, etc.” who at of those two are the bullies?
          “by pushing falsehood.” says the person preaching falsehood about Jesus. also how is medical science falsehood?
          “Mankind’s freedom was established to live out God’s truth” so you should stat living out God’s truth because so far you seem to have failed that one.

        • johndoe

          You men the christian pioneers who slaughtered the native Americans?

    • ReikiRobyn

      No, Grace. God made us transsexual so that we could choose to live our lives in truth and to give other people practice in his second commandment of unconditional love: Love your brother/sister as yourself.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        You are wrong. God created the birth gender. You need repentance to be saved. God’s love is holy. No truth = No love. Read the Word of God. Mankind suffered too much from perv Westerners. Enough of your warped amusement.

        • ReikiRobyn

          (This comment is not aimed at you, Grace.) Mankind suffers too much from perv “religious” leaders of all faiths who call for hatred and discrimination of those who believe differently. *** My identity is not an amusement; it is a fact that I, my husband, our children, and our friends, colleagues, doctors, and government live every day..

        • Charly Townsend

          “Read the Word of God.” preach what you teach. there is nothing in the bible that says anything about transgender people good or bad.
          “You need repentance to be saved.” that’s the case you better get repenting (if you’ve read the word of God you’d know what for). “No truth = No love.” that’s not a very christian approch, we are ment to love all people not pick and choose, love your neibugh, not love only those that you agree with. we are to follow jesus, He loves unconditionally, therefor so should we.

        • D. C. Phillips

          You’re in more danger from one of your church’s ministers than you are from a trans person. Some of us know the Bible even more than you do.

    • D. C. Phillips

      The verses you cite have nothing to do with being transgender. Of course, God created us male and female, but stuff happens, just like with other birth defects. And Deuteronomy 22:5 refers to men assuming women’s roles, in order to shirk their duties as a man, and women taking on the role of men. Again, nothing to do with being transgender, which is a documented physical condition.

  • Jazz Hans Perry

    What a disgusting, poorly written article…

    “Two Women Become First Transgendered Nominees for U.S. Congress”

    That’s a slightly better attempt at your headline, if you absolutely must dwell on the fact they’re trans.

    Also, “Born in 1985, Snow says he has always identified as a female…”

    She. Snow says SHE has always…

    You don’t get to force a gender onto somebody else. Even in the quote from HER mother, where she references her daughter with female pronouns, you almost immediately state “his mother said”.

    Learn correct pronouns when referencing gender, and your ‘journalism’ (a far more correct use of quotation marks) might improve. 🙂

    • Nidalap

      Those most affected by propaganda DO tend to spout it off on command, now don’t they just? 🙂

      • Dana Stinson

        Those who are ignorant always seem to open their mouths when they have nothing to say. Nidalap, you are maintaining the status quo. Kudos.

        • Nidalap

          Back at ya there! 🙂

          • Dana Stinson

            Good sir. You will NEVER and I mean NEVER know as much of this topic as I do. Refer to me as you wish, I don’t care. I know where my heart is at and it’s all that matters to me.

            Enjoy your day.

          • Nidalap

            See now? If I had said that, you’d not accept it at all.

            You enjoy your day too! 🙂

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Christians sent to the world by Lord Jesus for sinners’ salvation:
    “I(Jesus) will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to
    God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in Me.” – Acts 26:17-18

    • D. C. Phillips

      I’ve been saved for 42+ years; still trans.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        God created you to be the birth gender on earth and you must live out your God-given gender. Live as you are created. Obey God instead of forcing your false feelings on others. Time length does not matter.

        • johndoe

          You are the one trying to force your false feelings on everyone in America.

        • D. C. Phillips

          Not forcing anything on anybody. Why not do some research on the transgender condition, rather than putting words in God’s mouth. It occurs just like any other birth defect; nature has a way of screwing up God’s plan. Nobody just up and decides to be transgender, I know I didn’t. It’s not “false feelings,” as you call it, it is a documented physical condition. Get to know a transgender person; you’ll find out really quick that it’s nothing like what you think it is. Don’t talk to me about God, until you know me and know what I’m about. People don’t care about what you know until they know how much you care, and to keep parroting the same stuff over and over, without knowledge of what you’re talking about, shows that you don’t care, and you don’t want to; you are the clanging cymbal that Paul talks about in 1 Corinthians 13.

    • Charly Townsend

      what sins are you talking about? being transgender? that’s not a sin. judging others is. preaching fools words of God is. but being transgender is not.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        The Holy Bible condemns transgenderism because it is against God’s creation order and purposes. The West has been too well-fed and is suffering from mental illness this century. The West cannot bully colored people so they single out Bible-believing Christians for bullying this century on the expense of children’s well-being; too many Westerners are childless and they don’t care about mankind’s future. Telling the truth is not judging but the act of true love and rescue. Secular Americans bully the world by imposing sexual immorality just because they are rich and powerful and think everyone should be as corrupt as they are. God will judge the Sodomic West including USA and its mental slaves for doing all the evils.

        • Charly Townsend

          “The Holy Bible condemns transgenderism because it is against God’s creation order and purposes.” how is it against God’s order and purposes?
          “and is suffering from mental illness” what mental illness is that?
          “so they single out Bible-believing Christians for bullying this century” how are christians being bullyed? compared to the groups that they bully and the actions christians in america are taking, they really aren’t in the position to cry about bullying. so you have to acsept transgender people and learn what they are, big deal, that’s such a injustice, you have to call them by the ccorrect naames and pronouns, big injustice, you have to not deny them serve and jobs based on who they are, big injustice. while the christians are making bills like HB2 and religous freedom acts, attack people at funerals, yelling damnation in peoples faces, threaten LGBT people, killing LGBT people, denying people jobs (yeah because that follows the teachings of Jesus), denying people services (yeah because that follows the teachings of Jesus), denying people education, trying to stop LGBT being taught in schools,etc. so i think what christians are getting is their own making, you reap what you sow, you sow hate, you reap hate.

          “on the expense of children’s well-being” in what way is it at the expense of childrens well being?

        • johndoe

          Being an American, which you are not, has absolutely nothing to do with having children.

  • Lauren Brooks

    When people cherry pick which particular rules of a religion they choose to abide by, for example following some but ignoring others, then the integrity of their belief in that religion is compromised. The integrity of Christianity has been compromised for centuries. When will you stop using your compromised ‘Faith’ to hide behind as you belittle and dehumanize other humans that ezist beyond the scope of your intellectual capacity ?

    • Nidalap

      That’s a mighty fancy way of saying that anyone who won’t coddle perversion is just stupid.
      Hey, whatever helps you feel all intellectually superior! 🙂

      • Crysta

        This from the religion that protects pedophiles in the churches… You kind of lost your right to talk about perversions..

        • Nidalap

          Not at all. Wrong is still wrong, no matter who the perpetrator might be.

          • TwoRutRoad

            Why would people still support an organization who’s top officials have committed these atrocities?

          • Nidalap

            ::Arches one eyebrow::
            Are you planning the overthrow of your government then? They all seen to have reprobates and criminals at the top so how could you support them, right? 🙂

          • TwoRutRoad

            You answered my question with a question. (Or, rather, you didn’t answer it.)

            No, I’m not planning an overthrow. Although, I’d love to see a truly secular government. The reprobates and criminals at the top are mostly Christian.
            I do not voluntarily throw money into the collection plates as the cult followers do. I have to pay my taxes or go to prison.

          • Nidalap

            What, no free speech where you are? Must be rough.
            Support doesn’t always mean money.

          • TwoRutRoad

            I can’t just stop being a citizen of the USA.
            I DID stop being a catholic.

          • Nidalap

            People do it all the time! You may not want to go to the trouble, but you most certainly could if you wanted.

          • TwoRutRoad

            For the most part, I like it here, so I’ll stay put, and pick the battles I feel I can effectively support. My battle right now is separation of church and state. I pay membership dues and donate to groups such as the FFRF to help fight against government support/endorsement of religion.

          • Nidalap

            ::Shrugs:: You are free to do so. You can tell me I’m wrong all you want.
            But I can do the same…

          • Dana Stinson

            And exactly where in the Bible does it state being transgender is wrong?

            I have a hint for you, it doesn’t and I never will.

            You’re not very good at this arguing thing, are you? I will have to give you credit for trying.

          • Nidalap

            Deuteronomy 22:5
            The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God.

          • Dana Stinson

            Wrong. That’s not what the verse implies. Have you even bothered to read to historical context of how and why this verse written? I’m afraid you haven’t.

            Care to try again?

          • Nidalap

            And exactly what do you believe the verse implies then? 🙂

          • Dana Stinson

            I am the one who isn’t defending the verse. I had to research like mad to learn what it meant. I suggest you do the same. And research doesn’t imply you take the first answer you find. Come back in 6 months and we’ll chat.

            Until then enjoy your day.

          • Nidalap

            No answer then. Okie-dokie! 🙂

          • Stéphanie Deceneux

            no research as well…. stay in your delusional world.

          • Charly Townsend

            “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so [are] abomination unto the LORD thy God.” that’s not even about transgender people. that is at most about crossdressing, which is a completely different thing, as a transgender woman is a woman so can wear womens clothes and a transgender man is a man and can wear mens clothes. also these laws are of the old testement not of the new, this law is among those that we have no need to follow. tell me do you wear clothing of mix matrial? do you eat pork or any other unclean food? do you work on a saturday? When you build a new house, do you make a parapet for your roof? do you sacrifice goats to clean yourself of sin? do you still circumcise your male children? do you keep all of the laws of marraige in the old testement? do you neuter your pets? do you celebrate Passover, Shavu’ot and Sukkot? do you practice all of the laws of passover and other festivals?
            why is this one law the exception?

          • Stéphanie Deceneux

            since you are quoting the old testament to justify your point of view, i hope for you you do not eat seashells, do not wear clothes of mixed fabrics, and have a parapet around your roof, as it was ordered by the lord. these are sins as well. but then, if you follow the old testament so much, maybe you should convert to judaism. i will tell what christians like you are telling, who claim that since jesus died for our sins, the old testament is no valid anymore….

  • Chrissie Browde

    The ignorance displayed in articles like this one – and attitudes of those who support this variation on bigotry – are both stunning.

    From the first sentence to the last the person identifying as “Heather Clark” displays no understanding of or compassion for the human condition. That not all humans are alike does not make any one of them less human, or less deserving of respect.

    The physical appearance or gender presentation of a candidate for office is not that on which the intelligent person passes judgment. Rather it is the policies which the candidate espouses.

    • Nidalap

      There is no true compassion to be found in encouraging a person in a mental delusion as opposed to actually trying to get them to see truth…

      • MJ

        mental delusion? Nope. Throwing that around means you really don’t understand trans people at all. 🙁

        • Nidalap

          Or that I do.

          • Dana Stinson

            Or that you don’t. End of discussion. If you want to categorize us as such then it would be wise to categorize ‘christians’ in that group as well.

          • Nidalap

            So, if you run into someone who categorizes both in like manner, THEN you’d accept it? Somehow, I think not…

          • Dana Stinson

            As both Christian and transgender? Both are possible.

            Being a Christian AND loving? I see that’s the part you ate grossly missing out on.

            Even your ignorance. I’ll leave it at that. I’ll let God sort it out in the end.

          • Nidalap

            As you wish. I WOULD suggest avoiding being on the wrong side of that though…

          • Stéphanie Deceneux

            so being on the loving side is being on the wrong side? just a tip: you don’t have to support what people do to be a loving human being…..

          • Dana Stinson

            I fear he knows not.

          • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

            Ahh. Yes. Your religions reward system of love….
            The unconditional conditional love of Christ
            Do as I say, or youlll be going to hell… LOL

          • Dana Stinson

            and what if YOU’RE wrong? I fear a Matthew 7:21-23 in your future.

            *sits back and watches the show*

          • Nidalap

            Do you truly fear it? Those aren’t just empty words you say in argument?
            So if you work your hardest to make me see my error, it’s really an act of love then? 🙂

          • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

            You don’t… there, now you’ve seen the truth.

          • Nidalap

            “What is truth?”

            _Pontius Pilate

          • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

            To religious folks, “truth” is anything written down on old paper by men, years ago. Nothing more is needed.

          • Nidalap

            Kind of like folks just deciding that whatever they currently feel is truth actually is, huh? 🙂

          • Stéphanie Deceneux

            yes, like you are doing right now!

      • Chrissie Browde

        The only thing less impressive than your analysis is you’re hiding behind a fake name. Somehow I doubt that you would recognize the truth if it gave you an enema.

        • Nidalap

          My age showing, I guess!
          I just harken back to a time when it was considered dangerous to be putting personal info out on the net.
          Nowhere near as super-safe as you seem to think it is now…

      • Beverly Cosgrove

        Mental delusion? If you would actually like to explore this, imagine a test you could use to see if a person had a gender identity which was “correct”. What would the test be? Would the test be, “Bigoted ‘Christians’ accept them”? That amounts to what you’re saying. You seem to think your ignorance is truth, but have no interest in seeing the truth, because for some reason you seem to want to avoid looking at any contrary data or facts, right?

        • Bob Johnson

          You should read the irony in Nidalap’s words. After all there is much written on the God delusion. Perhaps his is a plea not to encourage his delusion but to help him see the Truth (or at a minimum a rational, humane view of the world).

  • Han Burch

    Definition of irony – writing an article that deliberately miss-genders two human beings, but requesting commenters be respectful to each other. Are the authors respecting the two women they are writing about?

    • Nidalap

      Oh sure. And they probably refuse to refer to multiple personality sufferers as “they” too.
      Big meanies! 🙂

    • Denny

      They’re not women, they’re men who had their junk cut off.

  • Kim McKinstry

    The only people here that are deluded are the writer and the morons that consider these woman to be mentally Ill. Get an education and learn to have a little compassion. It is the people like you that create the suicide rate of Trans individuals to be over 40%. You call yourself Christians, I think not.You people are everything wrong with this planet we call earth.

    • Dolly Roquette

      Hear hear.. It is *social warmongering* and these so called christians need to be called for it!
      ⚡💀⚡

    • Nidalap

      “Tell me I’m right or I’ll kill myself!”
      Nice argument. Still won’t actually make them right though…

      • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

        So. Your arguement is that a religion should have no /has no influence?

        • Nidalap

          Not sure how you read that out of that post…

          • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

            You’re implying that religion has no influence to what leads people to kill themselves.

          • Nidalap

            Hopelessness leads people to kill themselves.
            People kill themselves when the stock market crashes. Shall we abolish the stock market then?
            People kill themselves when their government won’t suit them. Shall we abolish all government then?

          • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

            LOL
            Your examples demean your own religion to that of businesses (monetary) and a government (control).. LOL

            and I couldn’t agree with you more!! Religions are about nothing else but monetary and control.

            Well said, Nidalap!!

          • Nidalap

            Well, you DO support delusion, so your chosen description DOES make a certain sense…

          • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

            Religion only survives because of delusion… there is ZERO proof to its truth, otherwise.

          • Nidalap

            Deluded folk do not accept truth. Kind of goes with the definition…

          • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

            You say deluded folks.. I say religious folks. Same thing.

          • TwoRutRoad

            “Hopelessness leads people to kill themselves.” Hopelessness is when you are hated and scorned by the people who should love you. It’s often for religious reasons that people hate and scorn.

          • Nidalap

            Ah, so if there were no religion, people would automatically stop all hatred and scorning. Seems simple enough…

          • TwoRutRoad

            No, but it would be a great start.

          • Nidalap

            Not quite hardly.

      • Kim McKinstry

        Nidalap, it is people like you that create an atmosphere of hate and bigotry aimed at the Trans community to try and make them feel like they are mentally ill which in turn makes them feel invalidated. Desperate and alone. It is your hatred and ignorance that causes this. Yes you are wrong,totally wrong and you are no Christian, Jesus taught Love, man teaches hate. Thats you sir.

        • Nidalap

          Interesting that I cannot decide what a persons gender might be but you can decide whether a person is a Christian or not…

          • Kim McKinstry

            You are teaching hate and bigotry, not for me to decide, you are doing a fine job deciding that for yourself.

          • Nidalap

            Hate and bigotry. Just words you throw to shut down any debate.

          • Kim McKinstry

            True, its a fact. Thats you.No argument here. Educate yourself.

          • Nidalap

            Contrarywise! 🙂

          • Kim McKinstry

            I refuse to learn any hate which alienates any group of people. We are all human and deserve to live in peace. Without your uneducated opinion.

          • Nidalap

            I’m uneducated, stupid if I don’t conform to your way of thought.
            Seems you WILL learn some hate, now won’t you…

          • Kim McKinstry

            No I dont hate you or anyone, I just feel sorry for you. You will be judged but not by me.

          • Nidalap

            See now? If I had said that, you’d not accept it at all! 🙂

          • Kim McKinstry

            No not at all, I am not afraid of the judgement, my life is based on love for all,truth , compassion and knowing that all are created equal. My outcome will be much better than yours my friend.

          • Nidalap

            Delusion indeed…

          • Kim McKinstry

            Science has proven that we are indeed not with mental Illness, and you do not believe them because you probably have a deep seeded problem with your own sexuality. Maybe both of you should seek help.If one of your own children came out to you as Transgender. What would you do? Make them have a lobotomy, disown them and throw them out in the streets, you see the connection to suicide here. I have been in Therapy for many years and this was to help with the depression caused by people such as yourselves. Once I learned to embrace who I truly was is when the depression was lifted. I wish you could have lived in my shoes for just one day, and these thoughts started as far back as I can remember , when I was a child, are you telling me that that child was mentally Ill ? If so then you are both equally ignorant. Read more on the causes of being Transgender. It is something we are born with plain and simple. If a child is born with a congenital birth defect would you just toss them aside? Maybe you would……..

          • http://shadow-ax.bandcamp.com/ DeplorableRocker83

            “Science has proven that we are indeed not with mental Illness…”

            Really? Then by all means, show us the scientific research that conclusively proves trangenderism to be natural. FYI, I’m not talking about people born with an extra X or Y chromosome.

          • Darren H

            You’re a man with severe mental problems.
            Slicing up your body and injecting yourself with hormones is not how a sane adult behaves.

          • Kim McKinstry

            Another uneducated bigot.

          • AlphaOmega

            That, and “educate yourself.”

          • Charly Townsend

            “but you can decide whether a person is a Christian or not” it’s quite easy, christian means follower of Christ. if you aren’t following Christ then you are not a christian. it’s that simple. so far from all of your comments that i’ve seen you clearly don’t even know Christ let alone follow him.

          • Nidalap

            You seem to have the basic formula down, but seem to think that a Christian must embrace sin in order to follow Christ.
            You are mistaken in that…

          • Charly Townsend

            i never said that a christian should embrace sin in order to follow Christ, unless you are saying that Christ sinned. where did i say that? what sins have i told you to embrace?

          • Nidalap

            Can’t endorse the LGBTQIA lifestyle without doing that…

          • Charly Townsend

            yeah you can. being transgender is not a sin. nowhere in the bible does it say that it is a sin. being gay isn’t a sin (the bible only says that anal sex is a sin, you can be gay and have a same sex relationship and not have anal sex) and intersex is being born with characteristics of both male and female, saying that supporting them is a sin is like saying supporting a person born with no legs is a sin and asexual is just someone who isn’t attracted to any gender, not sure how that could be a sin.

          • Nidalap

            ::Gasp:: Wait just a second there! You just said that two men in a sexual relationship of that nature must, by definition, be SINNING!
            You’d best explain yourself mister!
            Who are you to dictate another’s chosen lifestyle? 🙂

          • Charly Townsend

            i’m not dictating anyone’s lifestyle, if someone is having a bit of anal sex i don’t mind, it doesn’t affect me in any way. unlike you i just let people get on with their lives, it doesn’t affect anyone else, so why get all in their face about it.
            “You just said that two men in a sexual relationship of that nature must, by definition, be SINNING!” not nesserseraly. there are other ways to have sex (oral, hand jobs, etc).
            but unlike you i don’t view sinning as the be all and end all. they can still be a good person and a good christian. it doesn’t make them bad and it doesn’t mean that they can’t have a relationship with God (if you think it does you’ve missed the point of Jesus).

          • Charly Townsend

            i’m not dictating anyone’s lifestyle, if someone is having a bit of anal
            sex i don’t mind, it doesn’t affect me in any way. unlike you i just
            let people get on with their lives, it doesn’t affect anyone else, so
            why get all in their face about it.
            “You just said that two men in a
            sexual relationship of that nature must, by definition, be SINNING!”
            not nesserseraly. there are other ways to have sex (oral, hand jobs,
            etc).
            but unlike you i don’t view sinning as the be all and end all.
            they can still be a good person and a good christian. it doesn’t make
            them bad and it doesn’t mean that they can’t have a relationship with
            God (if you think it does you’ve missed the point of Jesus).

        • AlphaOmega

          Got some issues with First Amendment, obviously.

      • Darren H

        It’s emotional blackmail.

        8th grade girls act that way.

    • http://shadow-ax.bandcamp.com/ DeplorableRocker83

      Wow! So, shortly after insisting that we need to “learn to have a little compassion,” you then proceed to say, “You people are everything wrong with this planet we call earth.” Your lack of understanding regarding Christianity aside, your hypocrisy is laughable. Why don’t you practice what you preach and learn a little tolerance?

  • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

    Congrats to both these strong women.

    In the wake of the Muslim who used his religion as an excuse to butcher his trans-daughter the day after her wedding, its time to revamp these religions that espouse nothing but HATE.

    • calduncan

      Hey, get you – 11,139 comments, 7,915 upvotes.

      Kind of a flop at this blogging thing, aren’t you?

      • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

        I should learn from you, and up vote myself

        Your self-grandiosity betrays you…

  • calduncan

    Their psychosis starts with feeling sexually inadequate. The original trannie was a man named George Jorgensen, who in 1952 made headlines when he unveiled himself as “Christine” Jorgensen. His story is that he was a shy kid who, as a teenager, was embarrassed because of his small sexual organs. Now, we all acknowledge that teenage boys can be pretty nasty to each other, but being introverted and having small genitals does not mean the guy isn’t a man, most men in that situation would go on to marry, have kids, and live a normal life. Most important, they would do what millions of other kids do, learn not to take teasing and insults seriously, figure out that it’s not the end of the world to be a figure of fun, since most human beings endure it at some point. The sad thing is that George Jorgensen decided that the solution to having small male genitals was to have no male genitals at all, and at this point in time, this butchery was not done in America but in Sweden and Denmark. If you’ve ever seen photos of George Jorgensen posing as “Christine,” you will get the same impression as of most trannies: they look like men in drag, not like real women. If you have problems in social adjustment, and you rely on medical technology to solve your problems, you are only fooling yourself. There are plenty of blah, socially inept people who have plastic surgery and afterward are still blah, socially inept people. The trannie’s big problem is, he isn’t happy, and he is relying on technology to make him happy. Sorry, life doesn’t work that way. If you look in the mirror and you don’t like the man you see, be aware that millions of men all over the world share that feeling – at times, anyway. “I’m not happy, I’m a man – therefore, if I change into a woman, I’ll be happy.” Nope, not according to the suicide statistics.

    • Ashley Williams

      If you had any idea what we go through you’d know it had nothing to do with size. Transition isn’t as simple as putting on a dress and popping some pills. No you actually go through full blown puberty. Do you have any idea what its like to be 32 years old and your breasts hurt because they are growing? Or have your hormones raging? And on top of all of that those of us that have Sexual Reassignment Surgery (SRS) aren’t all that common. Its expensive and its one of the most invasive procedures there is. The recovery time is over 3 month before you can do physical labor and even then its still bad. You have to dilate your new vagina with essentially uncomfortable rock hard dildos many times per day. At first you have to do it 5 times a day. You basically sleep, eat, pee, and dilate. Then after a couple of weeks its 3 times a day. After the 6 month mark its once per day. After a year you have to do it the rest of your life once a week.

      And for the record I used to hurt my girlfriend because I was too big.

      • Nidalap

        You make a compelling argument about the difficulty of such a process.
        You make a horrible argument about the sanity of those who choose to go through it though…

    • Kim McKinstry

      You are another example of a bigot with deluded thinking, if I were to measure my penis size and yours I am sure mine would have been bigger and you can ask my 3 ex-wifes the same question. As for getting over being picked on I also did just that and would end up beating up jerks such as yourself because you thought it was a right of passage to be picked on and to pick on others. I also proudly served my country in the Military, did you? Your opinion means nothing to me and I suggest you hit the books and read a little more into the subject before you start throwing out irrational judgement’s. And the suicide statistics come from the ones that are tormented from people such as yourself and not the individuals who seek the proper treatment and are accepted by their families, friends and communities with which they reside. Don’t make claims WHEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TRULY TALKING ABOUT.

      • calduncan

        Dude, you’re addicted to hate. It’s like a drug, it makes you feel good for awhile but it’s doing you serious harm. You’re not dehumanizing the people you hate, you are dehumanizing yourself. Get some help, all this rage in there could very well lead you to do some violent harm to yourself or others.

        • Kim McKinstry

          No hate here, just sympathy for you. I probably have more Love in my heart than you could ever conceive.It is you my friend that breeds hate, not me………….

          • ReikiRobyn

            Spot on, Kim. Thank you.

        • D. C. Phillips

          The fact that you lead off with “psychosis,” and claimed that Christine Jorgensen was the first “trannie,’ pretty much blew your argument out of the water. Please do your homework before you post online, so you won’t look like an idiot

    • Brianna

      WOW ROTFLMFAO! You are so totally clueless. As your buddy Trump would say, there was no problem down there, I guarantee it. Most people say my hands fall into the ‘bigger’ category. I’ll give you credit for, apparently, putting A LOT of thought into your very warped understanding of transgenderism but that’s all I can give you credit for. BTW, the suicide stats are due to the lack of acceptance from ignorant people like you. if you talk to Trans people who have acceptance from their families and at work etc….people like me….. you will find no more suicidal tendencies than the hetero population.

    • Dolly Roquette

      Actually the suicide figures tend to fall, post op! (But thanks for cherrypicking your statistics there as it only serves to make your argument appear less credible). To refer to trans women as *trannies* is deliberately demeaning and offensive. (Also undermines your credibility). That said, you are right that we should all learn to take teasing and insults on the chin as it were so if you refer to me and mine as *trannies*, it follows that you are ok with me calling you *wanker*, (I wouldn’t by the way ’cause I don’t choose to be mindlessly insulting, but just saying)..!
      Also, the weaknesses in your main example are as follows:
      *SHE* is one isolated example!
      Also, the yardstick you are using by and large is whether you personally find us attractive! In all honesty we, and I think I speak for many of the trans community here, really don’t care whether you find us attractive! Oddly enough we don’t go through what we endure in order to please you or yours!
      Also, and this is a biggy, why is this even important to you? (One doth protest too much)! Lol!!
      Also, I have never felt sexually inadequate as it goes!?! Cases vary obviously but amongst all the trans people I know the incidence of sexual dysfunction and such pretty much matches that of the cis folk I know!
      I could go on but it’s late and I have a life!
      🍐😈🍐

    • http://www.facebook.com/goatsalliance Subcomandante Goatz

      Smile, in a few years what you call Christianity will be called a mental illness, and conversion therapy will be mandatory.

      • Blue J

        Dream on, girl.
        Our faith has outlasted powerful enemies.
        A group of homosexual riff-raff isn’t going to destroy us.
        In the great book of history, you won’t even be a footnote.

        • Charly Townsend

          no what’s going to destroy us is the hateful bigotted assholes who highjack christianity to excuse their hatred, ignorance and their actions.

          • AlphaOmega

            Flagged.
            If you can’t make your point without obscenity, you have no point worth making.

          • Charly Townsend

            way to try and get around my point. no what’s going to destroy us is the hateful bigotted people who
            highjack christianity to excuse their hatred, ignorance and their
            actions. is that better?

          • AlphaOmega

            You poor little gays, you got nothing in your lives but your porn and spewing your hate at Christians.

            That’s no life at all.

            No wonder your rates of alcoholism and drug abuse are higher than normal people.

            Bitter, self-destructive losers and fools.

          • AlphaOmega

            You can’t even spell “bigoted” correctly.
            Such awesome ignorance, adults who write at the level of 1st graders.

        • Dolly Roquette

          We have also outlasted all adversaries and your kind haven’t beaten us yet either. We have been around since year dot!
          ⚡💀⚡

  • Stéphanie Deceneux

    maybe god created some people to be different, just to see if people could show love, tolerance and compassion to everybody, even if they don’t agree with them. if so, many christians failed the test….

  • Ashley Williams

    I thought “Christians” weren’t supposed to judge people. I guess “religion” is just a load of crap.

    • calduncan

      Dude, that’s a definite “pot to kettle” post.

  • Mr Cleats

    Both of these men who named themselves “Misty” are going to lose, of course, but who on earth would vote for a man who doesn’t even know his own sex. Mike Lee and Doug Lamborn are decent, conservative family men – do the Dimocrats hate normality so much that they would vote for a guy in drag? This Plowright nitwit is even worse than just a self-mutillator, he’s involved in a perverse sexual triangle, supposedly made OK by the fact the 3rd person in the triangle was given a ring by the other two.

    If you live in a state or district that would elect a crackpot like these two “Mistys,” by all means consider moving.

    FWIW, even though they’ll lose, they did achieve the purpose, which is the core value of all transgendereds: They’re getting attention.

    • Dolly Roquette

      They are women, and it seems quite clear that they do, in fact, know that!
      🍐😈🍐

      • Gizmo

        The aren’t.
        Neither are you.

        • Dolly Roquette

          What you *are* is rude and disrespectful! What you *aren’t*, is qualified to judge what I am or otherwise! Same goes for your *unqualified* opinion on these two women!
          ⚡💀⚡

          • http://shadow-ax.bandcamp.com/ DeplorableRocker83

            And how are you qualified? What are your credentials? Show us the scientific evidence that conclusively proves your assertions.

          • Dolly Roquette

            I am willing to believe that they are *genuine trans*. Noone would make that shit up tbh. It is no advantage to pretend to be trans it is something we live with. As for myself, I gave been studying transgender issues on a personal quest dor want of a better description. I have consulted several independant medical experts doctors, nurse practitioners, psychiatrists, gender specialist doctors etc over a period of about thirty odd years! I have also bothered to get to know dozens and dozens of *gender variant* individuals in order to decide how to approach my own situation. I have written chapters and chapters on tge subject and learnt from a diverse cross section of expertise. Qualified, no! Im a timeserved master-glassblower! Experienced, however! Yes, extremely. I doubt that will persuade you however cause I can already tell that you are just spoiling for an argument! 💋

          • D. C. Phillips

            Google “transgender research;” you’ll find more than you’d ever read.

          • Kim McKinstry

            Dolly,don’t even waste your time arguing with these morons.

      • http://shadow-ax.bandcamp.com/ DeplorableRocker83

        Really? Pray tell, when did they trade their Y chromosomes for X chromosomes?

        • Dolly Roquette

          There are more possible chromosome combinations than the basic ones they tell you about in high school biology! There is considerable supporting evidence for existance of specifically *female* brain chemistry which can be mismatched with male physique. Also we *all* start life female tgen some foetuses turn male.

  • Beverly Cosgrove

    These two people are women. By referring to them as “he”, the article disrespects them, and encourages a climate of hate, intolerance, and misunderstanding. By rallying readers into a unified “hate” stance, the article encourages readers to enjoy the sensation of hating together. By hating together, readers here become an online mob. If you condemn those based on what they are, you will be condemned for what you are. There is something sick about people enjoying condemning others — it’s self righteousness, and I seem to recall the Leader of this religion speaking out very strongly against it.

  • Nidalap

    The Right to Perversion. It’s the new ‘civil rights’ wave…

    • Grace Kim Kwon

      They are mocking Christians and colored people for bringing racial equality upon the earth by using the term “civil rights.”

      • D. C. Phillips

        So, protection from being fired, evicted, raped, beaten, or murdered is not a civil right? Um, okay…

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          The homosexuals have been even abhorred by the pagans because of its deadly impacts on society. Christendom alone had mercy on the homosexuals and transgenders and gave them rights. Well-fed bored secular West is doing the unthinkable this century by trying to enslave mankind with abnormal sexual immorality. The Nazi attitude never left the West, and broken family units made the wealthy West very sick. You guys need Christianity to be sane and normal again. Mankind should not be ordered around by the childless sick West, no matter how powerful present West is. It’s a shame as a human being to be submissive to the Western pervs. Truth should reign and not immorality.

          • johndoe

            It would seem as though you have the nazi attitude when you are trying to impose your own religion on everyone. You dont even live here. We’re good without your brand of religion

          • D. C. Phillips

            Being homosexual and being transgender are two different things, so what’s your point?

      • Charly Townsend

        how are they mocking christians? i’m a christian and don’t see how people wanting rights is mocking me. the only people that i see mocking christians are the loud angry anti LGBT “christians” and televangalists, who mock the teaches of Jesus.
        “colored people for bringing racial equality upon the earth by using the term “civil rights.”” i’m not sure that you know what civil rights means. it isn’t an exclusive thing for racial minorities, everyone has civil rights, on your arguement women wanting the vote and rights and gay people wanting their rights must also be mocking coloured people.

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          You are not Christian. No one can be Christian and also stay unrepentant of sins. Read 1 John ch.1-5. Secular nations have more than enough civil rights for every sinner; now is the time to protect all true Christians and all children from the tyranny of atheists and hedonists. Truth and freedom first. The liberals oppress the Christians for teaching the truth.

          • johndoe

            Curious as to who you are to say anyone isnt a christian? Are you now god?

          • D. C. Phillips

            More proof that you haven’t the slightest clue about what being transgender actually is.

      • johndoe

        The term colored people is quite racist by the way…..

    • Dolly Roquette

      What does that even mean?! (Actually really I don’t care tbh)
      😈

      • Blue J

        You drag queens say you don’t care what we think,
        but here you are.

        So you care.

        • Charly Townsend

          i’m not sure that you know what drag queen means.

  • Gizmo

    I hate to bring up the issue of transparency, but a candidate who just erases his past is hardly an ideal candidate for public office. If he committed any crimes when he was using his birth name, but taking on a female name, he completely erases his criminal record – which is something that no free and open society should tolerate. For all we know, “Misty Snow” could easily be a pedophile or rapist.

    Most candidates make their past part of their campaign – i.e., they will post photos of themselves when their were in high school, college, first jobs, etc.

    Never trust people who hide things. Would you hire an employee who would not reveal his past? I sure wouldn’t. Tell me about your history, or I’ll hire someone who is more honest and open than you are.

    • Kim McKinstry

      For your information nothing in Misty”s past is hidden, you are required to keep your same SSN when changing names. You should investigate these things before posting.

      • http://www.facebook.com/goatsalliance Subcomandante Goatz

        The clown is trying to pretend that he has a real objection, not just religious-based hate and bigotry.

      • Gizmo

        “Nothing in Misty’s past is hidden” – um, yeah, EVERYTHING is hidden.
        A candidate won’t even reveal it’s birth name? Photos of itself? Family portraits?

        Misty reveals NOTHING.
        Deceitful people shouldn’t hold any mob at all.

        You people are collectively and individually insane.

  • Lindsey Muller

    Lots of ignorant hate filled comments in this article and comments section. These two individuals are women and should be referred to as such.

  • Nidalap

    I’d like to welcome the trans-fans to the disqussion tonight!

    You’ve come to a place you normally wouldn’t go.
    Perhaps you’ll find something you didn’t know to seek…

    • http://www.facebook.com/goatsalliance Subcomandante Goatz

      Why would a rational person think they could find anything useful from a group of ignorant bigots?

  • Roger Burns

    who says the iraqis want bibles there are no people there that are interested in the bible

    • Nidalap

      Are you sure you posted to the right thread? 🙂

  • Teresa Landreth

    figures should KNOW better than to read the comments on this rag’s page.

    • Mr Cleats

      Especially yours.
      Keep posting, though, we need a good laugh.

  • Dolly Roquette

    Ohh, my my, dearie me! I love these religion vs LGBTIQ debates which invariably degenerate through volumes and volumes of home cooked rhetoric on both sides and finally evolve into what we, (the trans community), know about our conditions… (And believe me, we do spend our entire lives researching this before we, as someone so glibly suggested, *get our junk cut off*!!); or what the religious dogmatists of whichever sect currently would like to exile, beat, imprison or murder us, currently believe to be, (ta-dah!) *THE TRUTH*.. It often begins as nuts n bolts hard science and Darwinism vs irreducible complexity and doctrine! These talks almost invariably reduce to he/she/they said p!$$ so he/she/they say $#!t! It is a classic exercise in sheer futility.
    Just to put this out there, I am not atheist entirely! Whilst I don’t actually have an *imaginary friend* anymore, (I am 48 and I have lots of real friends if whom many aren’t even trans!!)
    My belief sytems is a concoction of Darwinian evolution

    • Nidalap

      Well, keep seeking. Truth may shine through yet! 🙂

    • Blue J

      Sir, you should not dress up like a woman, nor should you attempt to coerce normal people into regarding you as a woman.

      Do get help.

      • Dolly Roquette

        One, even before my transition, I was never a knoght of the realm ! I work for a living so do not take kindly to false titles. I know that your use of *sir* is a kind of primative snarkishness but I am neither sir *nor* madam!
        Two… A drag queen is a gay man who dresses flambouyantly as a female parody and makes a career of this act. I dress like any other girl in ordinary attire and di an ordinary job! I am gay as it goes but a gay woman or lesbian in the vernacular!
        Three… I am not on here for the benefit of trolls like you chick! It is the one percent who genuinely value my input. Feel free to air your asanine wit though. It only serves to undermine your argument! I really don’t care I have very, very thick skin!
        So much for what you know about me… What is clear about you is that you are a fool!!

  • robertzaccour

    I wonder when this gender bender craze is gonna end.

    • Dolly Roquette

      This *gender bender craze* has been going on since way before christianity! The true rightful occupants of the US knew about third gender etc. Also the pagans and shamans of Britain and elsewhere. Its just ’cause that
      [email protected] trump and his bunch of godbothering sycophants have pushed it into the limelight as their twisted little crusade, that we have become high profile! Pathetic! we are here whether you like it or not. We have always been here and we ain’t going away any time soon!! Perhaps if you don’t like what you see, you christians can do what you do with hunger, disease, famine, exploitation, war, paedophilia in the clergy, etc…. and just look the other way!!
      ⚡😈⚡

      • robertzaccour

        I didn’t anything about Christians and Trump. Must be deflection strategy. Anyhow, it does seem like a passing trend. Not to say it will go away entirely, but the trend has peaked a long time ago and a lot of those in the cause seem like a bunch of idiots making it look bad. Not referring to you since I don’t know you of course. No disrespect intended, just asked a question.

        • Dolly Roquette

          To be honest, it perhaps is ‘peaking’ in terms of uptake of services! At least in the UK the specialist medical services are stretched to the limit and getting busyer, despite the best efforts of those opposed, people obviously feel it easier to ‘come out’!! I guess The rate of transition will level out at some point soon though?? I think what you’re seeing is not a higher number of transfolk, but a higher number who feel able and willing to express this publically. If anything the trans events and clubs etc are emptyer as we just go out *for real*!!
          😀

          • robertzaccour

            I’ve never been to the UK.

          • Dolly Roquette

            Its like a smaller version of the US, only designed by Jane Austen! Lol!! I think we tend to follow the US in most popular trends, dates back to fifties and beyond I think!!!
            ⚡😀⚡

  • Theophilus South

    Fortunately, both of these confused people were defeated. Maybe there’s hope for us yet!