We ‘Refuse to Be Baited’: ‘Fixer Upper’ Host Speaks After Controversy Over Church’s Marriage Beliefs

WACO, Texas — One of the hosts of the popular HGTV show “Fixer Upper” has written a blog post that some are interpreting as a response to the recent controversy over the church the couple attends, which holds to biblical beliefs on marriage and homosexuality.

“Jo and I refuse to be baited into using our influence in a way that will further harm an already hurting world,” Chip Gaines wrote on his wife’s blog on Monday. “This is our home. A house divided cannot stand.”

While not specifically referencing the controversy—or any issue or circumstance in particular, he said that the past year has been one of much division that has left people sad, angry and scared.

“If there is any hope for all of us to move forward, to heal and to grow, we have got to learn to engage people who are different from us with dignity and with love,” Gaines wrote. “Joanna and I have personal convictions. One of them is this: we care about you for the simple fact that you are a person, our neighbor on planet earth.”

“It’s not about what color your skin is, how much money you have in the bank, your political affiliation, sexual orientation, gender, nationality or faith,” he continued. “That’s all fascinating, but it cannot add or take away from the reality that we’re already pulling for you. We are not about to get in the nasty business of throwing stones at each other. Don’t ask us to, ’cause we won’t play that way.”

Gaines said that he desires a world where people may disagree lovingly.

“Jo and I feel called to be bridge builders. We want to help initiate conversations between people that don’t think alike,” he said. “Listen to me, we do not all have to agree with each other. Disagreement is not the same thing as hate, don’t believe that lie.”

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As previously reported, in late November, Gaines and his wife Joanna were placed under scrutiny as BuzzFeed reporter, Kate Arthur, noted that because homosexuals and others enjoy “Fixer Upper,” and because the Gaines’—who identify as evangelical Christians—have not stated a position on homosexuality, the outlet decided to look into the beliefs of their pastor.

The couple attends Antioch Community Church, led by Jimmy Seibert.

Arthur explained that she called the church and was pointed to the beliefs section of its website, which states, “Marriage is the uniting of one man and one woman in covenant commitment for a lifetime.” She was also advised that the church has always held to that view.

Seibert

Arthur additionally pointed to a sermon delivered by Siebert following last year’s U.S. Supreme Court ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges, in which he noted God’s design in the book of Genesis.

“This is a clear biblical admonition. So if someone were to say, ‘Marriage is defined in a different way,’ let me just say: They are wrong,” he said. “God defined marriage, not you and I. God defined masculine and feminine, male and female, not you and I.”

Siebert outlined that homosexuality is a sin, but that Christ can set men free from any sin, no matter what it is.

“Truth No. 2: God is able to give us power over every sin, including homosexuality. Lie No. 2: I am a homosexual in thought and action, and I cannot change,” he preached.

Seibert urged compassion for homosexuals and encouraged Christians to “lovingly, carefully bring them back to Scripture.”

Listen to the sermon in full below.

“So are the Gaineses against same-sex marriage? And would they ever feature a same-sex couple on the show, as have HGTV’s ‘House Hunters’ and ‘Property Brothers?’” Arthur consequently posed.

Other media outlets soon picked up on the matter, including Cosmopolitan, which characterized the report as a “startling revelation.” However, some criticized the BuzzFeed article as being a “witch hunt” and a “non-story,” as it is not a news flash nor a surprise that Christians believe the Bible.

Tyler O’Neil of PJ Media noted on Tuesday that some Christians might have wanted Gaines to write lucidly in support of his pastor and biblical teaching on the matter. However, he said that Gaines’ point was that those who disagree with various life choices are not haters.

“While the TV star’s comments may leave some on the right unsatisfied—‘Why didn’t he defend the Christian position against gay marriage?!’—they are an important reminder that Christians are first and foremost about love. Jesus called us to love our enemies—even those who disagree with us or persecute us,” O’Neil wrote.

“At the same time, Gaines’ remarks are a clear rebuke to those liberals who think everyone who disagrees with them, especially on same-sex marriage and LGBT issues, is a ‘hater,'” he said. “It is emphatically clear that Chip Gaines does not ‘hate’ gay people, even if he does agree with his pastor’s views against same-sex marriage and for the possibility that gay people can be redeemed from a sinful lifestyle.”

A Biblical Response to the Supreme Court Decision on Same-Sex Marriage from Antioch Community Church on Vimeo.

 


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  • OhSoGood

    Good for them! It’s an awesome show, and they’re entitled to believe whatever they wish.

    That having been said, it is very nice to see the prudish views of many on the right losing sway over our culture and laws.

    Who one sleeps with or marries is none of anyone’s business, especially when the person trying to make it so is doing so in the name of “religion” or “faith”. Those are your personal choices.

    • Plainsrabbit

      Yep, you’re hoping for the legalization of pedophilia. Those nasty old “prudish” parents are standing in your way.

      • OhSoGood

        Wow… why would you, I’m sure a self proclaimed christian, lie like that?

        Isn’t that a sin for a christian?

        • Plainsrabbit

          Homosexuals molest boys.
          You think Christians don’t watch the news?

          Sorry if the truth upsets you, but I guess it makes sense you would deny it.

          • OhSoGood

            Sugar, there are more stories in any news search about pastors molesting children than gay folks.

            You’re a very sick person. By perpetuating myth and not acknowledging the facts behind child molestation, you are part of the problem, and those kids’ molestation are partially your fault.

            I suggest you read the book “Stop Child Molestation” by Gene Abel. Maybe you’ll stop harming children.

    • Amos Moses

      “Who one sleeps with or marries is none of anyone’s business, ”

      until they bring it out in the open and MAKE it everyones business ….. as has happened ….. and they cant shut up about it ….

      • OhSoGood

        Like a wedding ring?

  • Liberal Elitist

    I likewise felt that the Buzzfeed story was a non-story. My spouse and I enjoy watching Fixer Upper. We don’t care about the Gaineses’ religious beliefs because they don’t get nutty about them. We’re content with watching the show, as long as those beliefs are not included for shock value. It would be nice if the Gaineses would feature a married gay couple, but I wonder just how supportive of the Gaineses their neo-Christian fans would be if they decided to do that.

    • NCOriolesFan

      Why do they need to feature a gay couple period? it’s THEIR show, not yours.

      • Liberal Elitist

        I merely suggested it would be nice, not that the Gaineses need to. Of course it’s their show.

      • Royce E. Van Blaricome

        See my answer above. It’s always “nice” for some to see professing Christians discredit Christ and His Word.

    • Sister Boogie

      You’re dead wrong, the “neo-Christians” are people who claim to be Christians, but who condone homosexuality. Christianity has condemned homosexuality as a sin since the New Testament period, and consistently until the late 20th century when liberalism began to infect the seminaries and some pastors began to claim that the New Testament was wrong. You can use the silly term “neo-Christian” all you want to, the simple fact is that all Christians condemned homosexuality until homosexual activism began in the 1960s. Evangelicals are in line with what Christians have practiced for 2000 years, so there is nothing “neo” about us. Any church that supports homosexuality is not Christian.

    • Royce E. Van Blaricome

      ” We don’t care about the Gaineses’ religious beliefs because they don’t get nutty about them.”

      So exactly when does someone “get nutty” about their beliefs? When they actually have the courage to stand on them and speak about them?

      And what constitutes “shock value”? Anything you consider to be shocking?

      Of course it “would be nice” to see the Gaines’ feature a Same-Sex couple. It’s always a “nice” thing to the spiritually-dead to see people who profess to be Christian hold up and support that which is in opposition to Jesus Christ because that’s just one way, albeit a rather innocuous-looking way, that folks deny Christ.

  • NCOriolesFan

    Too bad the Benham Brothers were not accorded the same respect from HGTV after that channel bounced their show because of their marriage and pro-life beleifs.

    • Liberal Elitist

      Unlike the Benham Brothers, the Gaineses don’t flaunt their bigotry but seem to have more of a live-and-let-live philosophy.

      • NCOriolesFan

        The Benham’s were ‘outed’ for their beleifs just like the Gaines’ were. Christianity is NOT bigotry either.

        • Liberal Elitist

          True, hatred and bigotry are not requirements of Christianity, though many neo-Christians believe they are.

          • NCOriolesFan

            So-called Christian hatred is a figment of your bigoted imagination.

          • OhSoGood

            Easily disproved.

        • OhSoGood

          The Benham’s went on record with some mighty nasty, judgmental words… the Gaines’ did not.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Being “judgmental” does not equate to “nasty”. Unless, of course, one considers the Truth to be nasty.

          • OhSoGood

            The choice of words in judgement can, and in their case was/is, nasty. It didn’t have to be, they chose for it to be so.

            As for “truth”… it can be proven with facts… your “truth” (I’m assuming) is religiously based, and therefore, cannot be backed by fact. It is not “truth”… it is only faith.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            No, the Benham brothers comments were not “nasty”. Just because you don’t like them doesn’t make it so. Outta curiosity though, please state specifically exactly what terms you considered to be “nasty”.

          • OhSoGood

            “homosexuality and its agenda that is attacking the nation” is nasty. The idea that homosexuals are attacking America is hate filled angst… nothing more.

            While he’s free to say and believe what he will, free speech is not free of consequences.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Thanks for proving my point. “Nasty” is in the eye of the beholder and the Truth typically characterized as such – “nasty” – when one doesn’t like it.

            No, the idea that homosexuals are attacking America is NOT hate-filled angst. It’s simply the truth. And one would have to live in a cave somewhere as a hermit to deny that.

            Anyone with eyes to see can see that Homosexuals ARE attacking America! How long of a list would you like? Phil Robertson? Hobby Lobby? Chick Filet? The Benham Brothers? Barronelle Stuzman? The couple in OR? The guy in CO? The two gals in AZ who were ordered by a court to not even speak about them being prosecuted or it would be considered “hate speech”? The Fire Chief on the east coast – Georgia I think?

            Why don’t you just say what you mean? Free Speech is just fine as long as it agrees with you! Otherwise there will be consequences!!

            Oh, but you’re not attacking America at all. Yeah right!!

          • OhSoGood

            Truth? Hardly… there is no “attack” against the US.

            That is hate-filled angst.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Nice try again. Thanks again for showing all ya got. When ya have nothing and all else fails just fall back on calling those you disagree with Haters.,

            Thanks for completely discrediting yourself as Liberals always do.

          • OhSoGood

            Okee dokee…

            Interesting that in all your claims, you’ve shown not one “attack against the nation”. Neither did the brothers.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            I would say that’s a lie again but you just don’t have eyes to see and you will see whatever you wanna see.

            A man convinced against his will is of the same opinion still – until such time that he’s in a place where he can no longer deny the Truth and then must live with the consequences of his rebellion forever.

          • Jason Todd

            So you’re saying then what they stated isn’t true?

            You’ve just destroyed your credibility.

          • OhSoGood

            Yes, I’m saying that is not true.

          • Jason Todd

            And that’s the lie of the day. Rather bald-faced.

          • OhSoGood

            How so? I get that you don’t like gay people, but they’ve done nothing to “attack the nation”.

          • Jason Todd

            *yawn*

            Blocked.

      • Harry Oh!

        If we indeed live in a society that is not influenced morally by religion or dictatorship, that leaves us with one other choice namely; individuals decide for themselves what is moral and right. And if that’s the case, then what gives you the right to infringe on someone’s else’s beliefs simply because they disagree with yours? Christians don’t hate homosexuals, they just believe it is wrong and therefore need compassion, not celebration. So how dare you decide to label them as hateful, bigots. Who’s the one out of line here?

        • NCOriolesFan

          Moral Relativity – to each his or her own morality.

          • OhSoGood

            R’Amen!

          • OhSoGood

            R’amen!

          • OhSoGood

            Amen!

        • OhSoGood

          Then don’t celebrate… leave gay folks alone, without mythological bombardment, to live their lives as they see fit. Not being able to do so does indeed mark you a bigot.

          ” individuals decide for themselves what is moral and right” is spot on… what keeps folks in check is law, not religion.

          • Harry Oh!

            Why don’t you extend to people who don’t agree with you the same courtesy. And gays have thrived in our society long before this recent phenomenon of normalizing the homosexual lifestyle. If you’re gonna insist on moral relativity, then practice what you preach and leave us alone!

          • Mike McClure

            And likewise.

      • marg

        How bigoted of you to declare that just because someone doesn’t agree with your lifestyle choices they are bigots. That is just stupid. Just because the majority of the church has not fallen into lockstep with the gay agenda does not mean the church hates gays. Stop drinking the lying kool aid of the left.

        • OhSoGood

          That’s not why they’re bigots…

          Trying to insure that the government treats them differently in things like marriage, you know, things that will have a harmful outcome for the gay person, is why they’re called (rightfully) bigots.

          • Jason Todd

            May I remind you we are talking about a group of people who knowingly and deliberately chose to define and identify themselves by their sexual behavior? Who you want to sleep with isn’t my business or concern, and should not be. So why the hootenanny are these people demanding special treatment based on it?

          • OhSoGood

            No special treatment requested. Just the same treatment everyone else gets.

          • Jason Todd

            Barbra Streisand.

          • Lisa

            Jason Todd: “Who you want to sleep with isn’t my business or concern, and should not be”
            Yes, you are so right. But here is where you err. You say that this minority group, 2% of the population is demanding special treatment. In my opinion, they are only demanding equal treatment under the Law and they are and will continue to get it despite all those who wish to deny them.

          • Jason Todd

            No. It’s special treatment. You should know better than to say anything like that when the actions of the LGBTQW community are a matter of record and are far beyond mere equality when it comes to their agenda.

          • Lisa

            Are you a bible believing born again chrstian. Do you believe the Bible is the literal word of God and contains no errors? do you believe homosexuality is a choice, and to you believe in the coming Rapture? Are you born again and believe that you are saved when you say the words “I believe”. If so, that explains. every. single. word. you . say.

          • Jason Todd

            Are you blocked? I BELIEVE you are!

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Thanks for showing all you and your ilk have. Name-calling and ad hominem.

            Washington State is a prime example of the proof you’re just flat wrong and it is YOU that is hateful as evidence by your nasty rhetoric.

            WA passed a referendum basically called “Everything But Marriage” and it was heralded by the LGBTQA-Z crowd as the one thing that would bring unity and consensus between the 2 sides. Basically guaranteeing by law that Homosexuals could have ALL the same rights and privileges that any other heterosexual married couple might have.

            This they told us would end the culture war on Homosexuality because all they really wanted was equal rights under the law. So that narrowly passed and it wasn’t ONE YEAR later before the Homosexuals were throwing another tantrum because they couldn’t get married. Having had less than ONE PERCENT of those voting in favor the referendum even sign up for their new Domestic Partnership rights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            So now they got there “Marriage”. Are they satisfied? NO! Are they content? NO. Now they have to go after every business and every person who will not say, “Ok, ok, you win. I acknowledge, accept, and approve of the notion that Homosexuality is perfectly acceptable and normal.”

            Well bub, that ain’t NEVER gonna happen. And so you and your ilk will continue to remain dissatisfied, discontented, and forever flustered, flabbergasted, angry, spiteful, hateful, vindictive, and vengeful because until such time as Jesus comes again, rules as Lord, and does away with all Evil-Doers by hurling them into the Lake of Fire, there will ALWAYS be true Believers who are followers of Christ and WILL let their light shine.

            So your conscience if you still have one will ALWAYS be pricked by the Truth and the Light shining on your lies and darkness. There is NO getting away from it. There will NEVER come a time when your conscience is assuaged because your sin has been accepted and approved by God or His People. Yes, we know that’s what you need but that would NOT be the loving thing to do so you will NEVER get it. Not from God and not from Us.

            If you no longer have a conscience, well, then I pity you because that means you’ve been turned over to a reprobate mind by God and there’s no hope left for you. I pray that’s not the case.

          • OhSoGood

            No contract comes with all protections, immunities, and benefits that come with marriage.

            Your god is meaningless in discussions of legal matters… it’s a choice you have made and has no bearing on US law.

            You don’t have to accept anything… like the Klan, you can hate who you wish and no one can take that from you.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            “No contract comes with all protections, immunities, and benefits that come with marriage”

          • OhSoGood

            No, hon… there are 1,138 protections, benefits, and immunities that are found in no other legal contract. Simple fact. No new law has been passed.

            Your god is not required for marriage, and is therefore meaningless.

            Your mindset and that of the Klan are the same. Vitriol and hate for people unlike yourself.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            I’m not your “hon” and thanks for showing you’re simply in Denial. I think I evidently know much more than you do about whether WA passed a new law and anyone with the ability to do a Google search can to.

            God is the Creator & Designer of Marriage so… wrong again!

            Your faux omniscience and demented god-complex fails you miserably. My mindset is NOTHING like that of the Klan. Nor do I have any vitriol or hatred for people unlike myself.

            But yours is sure showing. Thanks again for showing all that the Liberals have. Just more ad hominem.

          • OhSoGood

            The WA law was NOT recognized by the federal government (where the overwhelming number of protections, immunities, and benefits come from). The federal government has never recognized civil unions or domestic partnerships. That too is easy to find on Google.

            Your god is no different than any other… and is not required for marriage in any US state. That too is easy to find on Google.

            The mindset that someone is different therefore somehow bad is a mindset you do indeed share.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            The Constitution prohibits the Federal Gov’t from getting involved in anything not specifically enumerated to it and “Marriage” should have been left up to the States.

            But that is a separate argument. The argument I put forth shows the lies from the Homosexual Agenda, reveals what they’re about, and that it’s not about “equal rights”. It’s about acceptance.

            And that will NEVER happen.

          • OhSoGood

            The constitution does no such thing. As long as the majority of benefits, immunities, and protections of marriage come from the federal government, you’ve lost.

            As for your acceptance, that’s not needed at all, hon.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Yes it does. And your continued attempts to inflame further show you for who you are.

          • OhSoGood

            Okee dokee!

            How’s that working out for ya?

            The 14th amendment is fully at play. Would that be possible if the federal government didn’t extend the benefits of marriage?

            Still legally married… and you’re still unaffected.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Working just fine. Thank you. I shall not banter with a blind fool who revels in clinging to their sin and darkness.

            And btw, YOU do NOT get to tell me whether I’m affected. That only goes to further prove your delusional and have a god-complex just as I previously stated.

            Oh, and while a SS couple may have a legal document saying they’re married that don’t make it so. A piece of paper NEVER changes Reality. I would’ve thought that much was obvious.

          • OhSoGood

            It’s only sin if you follow religion.

            You are unaffected.

            Legal denial won’t help you and changes nothing.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            No silly. Sin is sin whether you believe in it or not. Reality doesn’t change.

            And sin affects everyone. So yes, I along with everyone else am affected by the grotesque, sinful lie that two SS people can get “married”.

            Any kind of Denial won’t help you and it changes nothing. You’ll find that out one day.

          • OhSoGood

            How are you affected? Oh, details please!

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            You wouldn’t understand if I told you,.

            “The unbeliever does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him. And he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually discerned.” (1st Cor. 2:14)

          • OhSoGood

            Then you are unaffected, just angry.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Nope. Your god-complex/faux omniscience fails you AGAIN. Best seek some help.

          • OhSoGood

            Until you demonstrate how you’re affected, I need do nothing.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Until you get help and stop playing God, I need do nothing.

          • OhSoGood

            I’m not playing god in any way. Just another false accusation.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Yes, you are. And I’ve specifically said how,. Your Denial and Delusion is strong. Time to leave the Darkside.

          • OhSoGood

            No, all you’ve done is lay out false accusations, mostly unrelated to the discussion.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Sorry you have trouble with reading and understanding the English language. The specifics are right there for everyone to see.

          • OhSoGood

            Okee dokee!
            Good luck!

  • Roy Payne

    What I would like to hear is the Gaineses saying, “We are members of that church because we believe as they do … in short, we believe that what the Bible teaches is still as relevant and still as obedience-compelling as it ever was.”

  • Mike McClure

    Someone’s religious beliefs or the church they attend is a personal matter. The Gaines family have those rights. As a gay person I have always felt that my religious beliefs were a personal matter also. I don’t try to force them on others, or publically display them, or attempt to create laws based on my religious beliefs against people who differ from mine, or call someone to the mat for an explanation of why they believe differently. I give respect to others, and would like to have that returned. Our country seems to be all about everything that makes us different instead of the things that make us the same.

    • Royce E. Van Blaricome

      There is NO such thing as “that’s a personal matter” when one is a Christian. To be a Christian is to be a member of The Body of Christ. What one member does or does not do effects every other member of The Body.

      Outta pure curiosity, since you don’t attempt to create laws based on your religious beliefs, what do you attempt to create laws based on?

      • OhSoGood

        Allahu Akbar!

  • AustinRocks

    Someone please tell the “LGBT community” that the rest of us were not created for the sole purpose of patting them on the head and telling them how adorable they are. In a diverse society, maybe you need to learn this: Other people’s feelings and sensibilities matter – NOT just yours.

  • Croquet_Player

    I really don’t care in the slightest what their personal beliefs are. As long as they’re treating everyone fairly in the workplace and producing a home improvement show people seem to enjoy, fine with me. If they start using the show or their popularity to start promoting a bigoted viewpoint, that’s a different story, but that’s not what they’re doing, so very good luck to them.

  • michael louwe

    So, if Chip Gaines were to run for President, the vote-pandering liberal media n Democrat ‘gangsters’ would also seek to disqualify him.?

    • NCOriolesFan

      Of course they would. Look what they did to SCOTUS nominee Robert Bork or anyone else they hate.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Christianity condemns homosexuality. The West must stop forcing Earth’s people to support homosexuality. Period. Sexual sins are nothing like skin colors. Stop the racism and immorality’s mental slavery in the Western civilization in the 21st century. It hurts the Western children the most.

    • OhSoGood

      Enjoy Asia and leave the US alone. We don’t need nor want you. You are dangerous.

      • Sven

        Gays spread AIDS, and you call us “dangerous”?

        You don’t even possess a conscience, you infect thousands of people with incurable lethal diseases.

        You have no morals at all.

        • OhSoGood

          Straight people spread AIDS.

          See, it’s a matter of personal responsibility, not sexuality.

          Try again.

          • Sven

            Nope.

            The CDC says 1 in 6 gay men is HIV-positive.
            For normal people it’s 1 in 99.

            AIDS is a gay disease. Bashing Christians won’t cure it, so your rants are worthless.

          • OhSoGood

            Learn to read, sweetie. Those statistics are only from the largest cities, not the nation as a whole.

            For other stats, here… I’ll even give you a source, sugar!
            See, there are approximately 11,000,000+ gay people in America (at your kind’s favored >3% figures). There are an estimated 1,200,000 people with AIDS in the US of A. ~65% of them are gay men. That’s ~800,000 gay folks with Aids. That demonstrates that the overwhelming majority of gay people have no such disease, where a goodly number of straight people do.

            And lets not forget that lesbians have fewer instances of HIV/AIDS than straight folks! Ain’t that special?

            www DOT cdc DOT gov/hiv/statistics/overview/ataglance.html

            You’re cute in your ignorance!

          • Ambulance Chaser

            No but better education, medical science, and curbing dangerous decisionmaking will. Then, once AIDS is eradicated, will you be okay with gay people?

          • Sven

            If you were mature adults who were comfortable with who you are, you wouldn’t give a moment’s thought to whether a total stranger is “okay with gay people.”

            One ironclad rule: People who run around proclaiming “We’re just as good as you!” do not believe it. People happy with themselves don’t talk that way.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            First, I’m not gay.

            Second, I and the entire liberal establishment would stop caring whether you cared about gays if you would stop trying to take away their rights.

          • Sven

            The right to prey on children?

            Sorry, we intend to resist that.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Who said anything about the right to prey on children?

          • antifasciste

            Better education and medical science is an awesome idea. We can’t turn back the clock, but had the Reagan administration not largely ignored the first cases of this “gay” disease, or considered it God’s punishment our conversation would be much different 35 years later. The origin of the disease is generally considered to have come from butchering or consuming infected primates; not even related to “catching the gay”. HIV can also be transmitted via transfusions, sharing needles during IV drug use, and good old hetero sex. AIDS provides an easy target for people to argue against a sexual orientation they find wrong. IMHO.

          • Jason Todd

            No, Reagan isn’t responsible for AIDS. AIDS is a behaviorally spread disease.

            Fact of the matter is the best way to prevent AIDS is to not engage in behaviors directly related to the spread. But homosexuals didn’t want that. They wanted a cure, and they wanted it immediately, because they wanted the sex without the consequences.

          • antifasciste

            Behavior like getting a transfusion? I didn’t say Reagan started it, his administration just ignored it. Try something new like reading a book, or peer reviewed journal sometime.

          • Jason Todd

            Behavior like getting a transfusion?

            And how many cases vs. homosexuality and IV-drug use? The numbers are so small to even bring it up is intellectual dishonesty.

            I didn’t say Reagan started it

            Neither did I. You implied he was responsible for the spread of AIDS. That’s BS. Period.

          • antifasciste

            A charge of intellectual dishonesty leveled by an anti-intellectual. Priceless!

          • Jason Todd

            How so?

          • antifasciste

            By ignoring or dismissing opposing views, without having either the intellectual equipment or the personal experience to weigh one view against another in any serious way (e.g. referring to something as “complete BS” rather than provide a cogent alternative idea)

          • Jason Todd

            “As of December 31, 2000, 774,467 persons had been reported with AIDS in the United States; 448,060 of these had died; 3542 persons had unknown vital status. The number of persons living with AIDS (322,865) is the highest ever reported. Of these, 79% were men, 61% were black or Hispanic, and 41% were infected through male-to-male sex. Of the AIDS cases, approximately one third were reported during 1981–1992, 1993–1995, and 1996–2000”

            “Nearly all transmission of HIV through transfusion of blood or blood products occurred before screening of the blood supply for HIV antibody was initiated in 1985 (3). The number of persons reported with AIDS who were exposed through blood transfusions was 284 in 2000, down from a peak of 1098 in 1993. The number of perinatally acquired AIDS cases peaked in 1992 (901 cases), followed by a sharp decline through December 1999. In 1999, 144 cases of perinatally acquired AIDS were diagnosed.”

            (CDC dot gov, “HIV and AIDS — United States, 1981–2000,” June 1, 2001.)

            When you run the numbers, the number of confirmed HIV/AIDS cases via transfusion is .14%.

            Those are the facts. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

        • Jenny Ondioline

          The current demographic with the highest incidence of AIDS is straight black women.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            More distraction and diversion. Anyone who hasn’t lived in a cave the last 30yrs knows that is due to the epidemic rate of AIDS in Africa and mostly due to the women being raped there by AIDS infected men.

            Distraction and Diversion only serves to undermine your credibility.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Actually no, Royce, what it shows is the extent to which some of you will go to deceive and obscure the truth.

          • Royce E. Van Blaricome

            Actually no, Jenny, what it shows is the extent to which some of you will go to deceive and obscure the truth.

    • Sharon_at_home

      I agree with you for the most part, Grace, but the whole thing should be ruled by what Jesus wants us to do: love one another. If you base a person’s worth by anything but how God looks at them – and we know God loves everyone, sinner and the righteous – the fact that a person is homosexual should have no reaction other than to love them, and teach them about the bible so they can make their own decision about God. It has to be those people who choose to follow Jesus and stop sinning, just like everyone else. Don’t criticize people who go against God’s Word, love them and teach them. God bless you!

      • Royce E. Van Blaricome

        Pardon me, I hope you don’t mind me inserting myself into your comment to Grace but I couldn’t pass up the opportunity to ask you something.

        How do you define “Love”? What does it mean to “love one another”?

        I would also submit that a person’s worth is not based on how God looks at them but rather at what He did at the Cross. Romans 5:8 couldn’t be any clearer.

        Also, evidently you are not aware there God does not “love everyone”. Google “Does God Hate Sinners” and study the results. You’ll find that there are some God hates. I’ve done my own study on these very difficult passages and believe I’ve come to an understanding but it would take too much space to delineate them here. The fact is God says that He does hate some.

        I would also submit to you that you can NOT teach someone that God says hates Him, is His enemy, is a son of disobedience and child of wrath, who follows their Flesh, the course of this World, and Satan without “criticizing” them. How do you tell someone they are a condemn Sinner without being “critical”?

        And if you don’t, then you are NOT “loving” them.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Yes, thank you, but today’s Western cultural sphere forces and funds homosexuality and transgenderism in the world to the point of loss of morality and freedom and the destruction of childhood. It’s a new slavery from the Post-christian decadent West, and being silent regarding such pressure is a disgrace as a human being. People must remember why human rights and freedom were obtained – to live out God’s truth. God is holy and loving. Western Christians should not be apologetic about living out God’s truth; the Western nations were created to be a Christian utopia, unlike other civilizations. Freedom is for a time such as this.

      • PilgrimGirl

        “…and we know God loves everyone, sinner and the righteous…” What “God” would that be, Sharon? It is certainly NOT the living God who is revealed in His Word.

        “The foolish shall not stand in thy sight: thou hatest all workers of iniquity.” (Psalm 5:5) And before you tell me that refers only to openly profane sinners, our Lord Jesus Christ said otherwise: ” Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

  • Becky

    “BuzzFeed reporter, Kate Arthur, noted that because homosexuals and others enjoy “Fixer Upper,” and because the Gaines’—who identify as evangelical Christians—have not stated a position on homosexuality, the outlet decided to look into the beliefs of their pastor.”

    What utter rubbish.

    The crux of the matter…since homosexual activist groups hadn’t noticed homosexuals on their show…it was time to rattle their wholesome show. Next move from homosexual activist groups…make certain that “husband and husband”…”wife and wife”…even “transgenders” get to make as many appearances, on their still wholesome show, as they wish else they’ll have to face their wrath…we all know what that will mean.

    • SFBruce

      I’m gay myself and follow LGBT news pretty closely, but I’m not aware of any groups who had raised questions about the Gaines. I’m also not aware of any pressure from gay groups to include same sex couples, although I’ve certainly seen several such couples on other HGTV shows. For myself, I’d enjoy seeing the Gaines work with a same sex couple, but as long as they don’t use their show as a platform to marginalize LGBT people, I’ll continue to enjoy it.

      • Oboehner

        “but I’m not aware of any groups who had raised questions about the Gaines.” This article must be a mirage… move along nothing to see here…