Is Genesis History? New Film Affirms Truthfulness of Biblical Record

A soon-to-be-released documentary-style film, featuring footage from around the U.S. and interviews with over a dozen scholars and scientists, will provide visual evidence and scientific arguments for the Bible’s accounts of Creation and the Flood.

On February 23, hundreds of movie theaters across the U.S. will participate in a one-night showing of the film “Is Genesis History?” The film, produced by Compass Cinema and structured as a documentary, features interviews with respected Christian scientists, including microbiologist Kevin Anderson, astronomer Danny Faulkner, geologist Andrew Snelling, and several others.

In addition to interviews with scholars and scientists, the film’s host, Del Tackett, guides viewers through over a dozen locations and landmarks to explore the competing views of creation and evolution. Tackett is the creator of a number of media projects, including Focus on the Family’s “The Truth Project.”

“‘Is Genesis History’ is a comprehensive documentary featuring scientists and scholars looking at the world and explaining how it intersects with the history recorded in Genesis,” the film’s website states. “From rock layers to fossils to lions to stars, this fascinating film will challenge and change the way you see the world.”

In an interview with Christian News Network, Thomas Purifoy, Jr., the film’s producer and director, said “Is Genesis History?” will be useful to people of all ages.

“My daughter was one of my main inspirations for creating the documentary,” Purifoy said. “We had a conversation concerning creation and evolution, and I realized I wasn’t doing a great job explaining things to her. I knew there were a lot of exceptional scientists who could do a much better job, so with Del Tackett, we sought them out to help explain the world in light of the history recorded in Genesis.”

The book of Genesis, although controversial, is foundational for the gospel, Purifoy stated.

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“Every important aspect of human culture goes back to Genesis, including marriage, sexuality, work, environmental stewardship, science, language, and much more. And all these things relate directly to the historicity of Genesis,” he said. “If you can deny Genesis as a book of history, you can deny all these things. The gospel of Jesus Christ therefore stands or falls along with the historicity of the first chapters of Genesis.”

“This is why the recent influence of theistic evolution on the church is so concerning,” Purifoy added. “This movement denies the goodness of God’s original creation by saying death existed for hundreds of millions of years before Adam, it denies a real Adam and Eve, and it denies a global flood. Theistic evolutionists are seeking to replace the history recorded in Genesis with a history of their own making; this is a dangerous thing.”

Already the film has been endorsed by Answers in Genesis and the Associates for Biblical Research. Purifoy hopes moviegoers who watch “Is Genesis History?” will be reminded of the reliability and accuracy of the Bible’s first book. Biblical authority is the primary focus of the film, he said.

“I also want moviegoers to realize that science is useful, but is not an ultimate authority,” Purifoy told Christian News Network. “Every field of science has changed many times through history, and will continue to do so. History, on the other hand, is unchanging. And if the Bible is anything, it’s a book of history.”

“Whether it reports the creation of the world, the fall of man, the coronation of King David, or the birth of Jesus, it is just recounting real events that happened in a real place at a real time,” he continued. “Furthermore, all of these events are intimately connected to one another. I want people to see this, and to realize that Genesis is the cornerstone for the history of the world.”


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  • Amos Moses

    Patterns of Evidence: Exodus (on Amazon Prime and a synopsis on utube) ………. and also …… Exodus Revealed: Search for the Red Sea Crossing (free on the utube machine) ……….

    • Jenny Ondioline

      Credentials please.

      • Amos Moses

        you have none …… if you want the “credentials” from the films …. watch ……… or dont …. i do not care …. Oleomargarine ………

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Yes, Genesis is actual history from the first chapter. Jesus Christ Himself treated it as actual history, along with all the Biblical writers who did the same way. Treating Genesis as history is the only way to make sense in this world.

    • Robert

      Who asked you to make sense out of all of this.? Party pooper.

    • Jason

      “Treating Genesis as history is the only way to make sense in this world.”
      Or you could study the world and come to logical rational conclusions.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Read the Holy Bible to get saved, Jason. Don’t resist the Truth.

        • Jason

          Your argument is not that impressive.

          “Don’t resist the Truth.” What truth? I don’t believe in fairy tails, if that’s what you are referring to.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You must repent of your unbelief to live. Atheists worship self and get ruined.

          • Jason

            I do not “worship” myself; I do, however, believe in humanity.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are part of the humanity. Don’t trust humans; everyone is a sinner. Humanism kills.
            “There is none righteous, no, not one; there is none who understands; there is none who seeks after God. They have all turned aside; they have together become unprofitable; there is none who does good, no, not one. …There is no fear of God before their eyes. …The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans chapter 3-6)

          • Jason

            Don’t trust humans? You sound like a crazy conspiracist.

            Humanism kills? I don’t think you understand humanism. Please explain what you think humanism is.

            The rest is Bible gibberish.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            All humans are sinful. A human being is an object of God’s love and not someone to trust. Planet Earth hates the baby-killing mankind. Humanism puts humans on the top yet regards the unwanted children and the people too old or too sick unfit to live. It’s a Nazism under a different title as homosexuality is closely related to pedophilia. Leviticus chapter 18-20.

          • Jason

            “All humans are sinful” I don’t believe in sin.

            “A human being is an object of God’s love and not someone to trust.” Does not make sense.

            “Planet Earth hates the baby-killing mankind.” Are you saying our planet (the ball ball of rock and water) has emotions?

            “Humanism puts humans on the top yet regards the unwanted children and the people too old or too sick unfit to live.” That’s not what humanism is.

            Humanism is a progressive lifestance that, without supernaturalism, affirms our ability and responsibility to lead meaningful, ethical lives capable of adding to the greater good of humanity… as defined by AHA. Nothing in there about unwanted children or sick and elderly people 🙂

            Nazism believes in a racial hierarchy. How do you get that out of humanism? You’re weird.

            “homosexuality is closely related to pedophilia.” Pedophilia, when acted upon, involves statutory rape… which is illegal. Homosexuality is neither rape nor illegal… nor your business.

            Stop hiding under a rock and enjoy life.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            So it is your personal problem that you support sins. You Westerners need Christianity to become moral.

          • Jason

            I don’t believe in sin, but yes, I do support gay rights. You do t have to support it. Just stay out of their lives. Easy peezey lemon squeezey

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The Western culture is demanding the sin to be endorsed by everyone. It’s wrong.

          • Jason

            No one said endorse, which means support. I just said you don’t have to support gay rights.

            “It’s wrong.” …to you.

            Just leave them alone. If you think they are going to hell, then keep it to yourself. Stay out of their business.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Western nations jail and fine those who oppose the sins of homosexuality and transgenderism. The culture mocks and prohibits purity even from children. Insane. The homosexuals need calls for repentance and the Gospel of Jesus Christ to get saved. Liberals are destructive to gays. This is a Christian news site; you are the one who should stop bullying the Christians here. No submission to immoral Westerners. Never again. You guys want slavery again, this time by installation of immorality. We should submit to God alone as the Holy Bible and the American founding documents and laws say.

          • Jason

            “Western nations jail and fine those who oppose the sins of homosexuality and transgenderism.” You keep saying that, but it’s completely wrong. People get fined and jailed for harassment and/or assault.

            “The culture mocks and prohibits purity even from children.” You keep spouting off these weird statements without evidence. I don’t know where you are getting your information.

            “Liberals are destructive to gays.” How so?

            “This is a Christian news site” the article is named ‘is genesis history?’ I am open to evidence, but this article was unimpressive.

            “You guys want slavery again, this time by installation of immorality.” Don’t be weird.

            “We should submit to God alone as the Holy Bible and the American founding documents and laws say.” What law?

          • truefreedom

            Jason, if you don’t see how the culture mocks purity, then you’re just kind of an ignorant person. The entire world of education and entertainment openly mocks purity and chastity at every opportunity.

          • Jason

            “The entire world of education and entertainment openly mocks purity and chastity at every opportunity.” Explain.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. USA fines and jails innocent people for not-serving gay weddings. Mankind have no freedom when they have no Judeo-Christian values. Humanism corrupts and kills. Western public schools systematically teach children to be immoral. Liberals indoctrinate gays to stay in sin and bring them suicide and damnation. You must stop telling the Christians to be silent.

            Seriously, the West is trying to enslave mankind by demanding everyone to bow to their Sodomy, though it hurts their own children the most. They think they can get away because they are rich and powerful. It’s insanity. US Constitution guarantees religious freedom, but the Western authority makes everyone endorse the sin of homosexuality. Christianity is right and the secular Western culture is wrong. You guys lost your wits by being spoiled for decades and having everything for the longest time on a planet of suffering humanity.

          • Jason

            “USA fines and jails innocent people for not-serving gay weddings.” They were not innocent; they were wrong. They cannot discriminate and filter which customers they want to serve. It’s plain hatefulness.

            “Humanism corrupts and kills.” Incorrect. We already talked about this.

            “public schools systematically teach children to be immoral.” Incorrect. They teach education. Parents… and other influences can screw up their kids’ moral compass.

            “Liberals indoctrinate gays to stay in sin and bring them suicide and damnation.” Incorrect. Religion conflicting with biology equals suicide.

            “West is trying to enslave mankind by demanding everyone to bow to their Sodomy.” Incorrect.

            “They think they can get away because they are rich and powerful.” I’m neither rich nor powerful. I am working on my push-ups though 🙂

            “Western authority makes everyone endorse the sin of homosexuality.” Incorrect.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            It’s not discrimination but rejection of serving sins. The West got a mental illness by putting colored peoples and sexually immoral people together in the same category. Rich white people never have given up their racism. Christian whites are the normal people. Biology says man is man and woman is woman and homosexuality is abnormal and harmful. Social studies say immorality is destructive to children and to nations. Period. Yes, you are rich and powerful; you live in the West and support immorality; all the filthy rich are on your side. Western nations should repent and stop forcing and funding immorality in the world. You guys need Christianity to be humane and moral. This time the Nazi atrocities are done by forcing homosexuality instead of nationalism.

          • Jason

            “Rich white people never have given up their racism.” Wow, There’s your true colors.

            “Biblical Christian whites.” You are going crazy. How do you know they where white? Is it because they had white people names? That’s racist 🙂

            “Biology says man is man and woman is woman and homosexuality is abnormal and harmful.” Incorrect. Biology says homosexuality is completely natural.

            “you are rich and powerful; you live in the West and support immorality; all the filthy rich are on your side.” Incorrect.

            “This time the Nazi atrocities are done by forcing homosexuality instead of nationalism. Admit that.” Nope. Incorrect. You are the one that sounds nazi-ish in your posts. “Rich white people never have given up their racism.”

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            1) I don’t want to be discriminated by the perv-supporting whites for opposing their mental illness. I had enough hard time from racists in my life. Today’s young people, colored and white, have no rights to bash anyone in the history. Today’s generation is the WORST in the entire human history. 2) White Christians alone developed systematic theology from the Holy Bible to bring human rights and equality upon the entire world. They alone taught slaves and the oppressed how to read and write and fought for our freedom.

            3) Biology says homosexuality causes deadly diseases and history and math say Sodom will be punished and go childless. 4) Sodomic West’s Nazi Youth education indocrinates children to live out immorality instead of the truth. You are ignorant because you are too young. The Germans repeated stupidity twice because the youth learned neither the Word of God or history.

          • Jason

            1) no one will discriminate against you. Just don’t harass or assault anyone and we will be fine.

            2) it was Christians who used the Bible to justify their ownership of slaves.

            3) what deadly diseases?
            Math?

            4) incorrect. Too young? How old is young?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. Western nations made it a crime to declare or treat homosexuality/transgenderism as a sin. Western nations have no freedom for the truth and purity. Slavery has been conducted by all mankind for all time everywhere. Christians abolished it once and for all by teaching the Holy Bible. Mankind never knew all men and women and children and minorities are equal under God until the Christian missionaries told them so. Westerners are protected and spoiled by the Christian Church and do not know much about the outside world. THe disease is AIDS. It started in California, USA, though Americans falsely blamed Africans. You sound like a typical teenager from a well-fed secular nation. Go back to the classroom for study.

          • Jason

            “Truth-telling is not harassing.” Depends on the situation. Preaching on a street corner… not harassment. Preaching in the work place… possibly.

            “Western nations made it a crime to declare or treat homosexuality/ transgenderism as a sin.” What law?

            “Christians abolished it once and for all by teaching the Holy Bible.” Incorrect. Once we as a whole understood that everyone should be treated equally, it was a down hill battle after that. No Bible needed

            “The disease is AIDS. It started in California, USA, though Americans falsely blamed Africans.” Completely incorrect:) HIV is transmitted through certain bodily fluids. You don’t automatically get the virus by scissoring… or other homosexual acts. A partner has to have the virus in order to transmit it. It can also be transmitted heterosexuals and through breast feeding and birth 🙂 *the more you know*

            “Go back to the classroom for study.” I do need to go back to college and finish my degree. My time in the military is coming to an end. I enjoy learning, but that is not relevant to the conversation.

            “Never bash your white Christian ancestors.” I don’t bash anyone. But we can look back in history and learn what we as a whole did right and what we did wrong. That is not bashing 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Jason, are you a North American or Western European? May I ask? The West arrests those who say that homosexuality is sin; that’s a Nazi oppression. Telling the truth about sins has nothing to do with discrimination. Sin has no equal right with anything. People would defend polygamy and pedophilia and incest and cannibalism in the same manner at this rate. Statistics clealy declare sexual immorality causes many diseases.

            What is your major in college? May I ask? US military is preserving the English Christian men’s creation. You guys should have a memorial day for white Christian settlers as well – the creators of all superb English colonies. Creators are greater than preservers. Western whites do bash their Christian ancestors. It’s weird to see Sodomites bashing normal people. You guys need a fix in your culture.

          • Jason

            North American born abroad. Studying chemistry… because when I think scientists I think mixing things in beakers 🙂

            In The US there are many that speak out against homosexuality and any other freedom of speech things. Protests are protected under our constitution… first amendment. Westboro church is a good example. It’s when those freedoms dip into harassment and assault that the law gets involved. So no, we do not arrest those that just say homosexuality is a sin… it’s more complicated than that.

            You can’t say homosexual intercourse causes HIV. They are more susceptible, but not the cause of. Just like living in Texas doesn’t cause rattlesnake bites.

            The us military’s job is not to preserve “English Christian men’s creation works,” but to defend the us constitution… against all enemies, foreign and domestic 🙂

            “Creators (pioneers and settlers) are greater than preservers (soldiers).” Ouch. Thanks for the pep talk. I guess I’ll quit my military career now.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Just know that God created all matters. It seems it’s just a matter of time that USA will start arresting anyone who speaks against homosexuality and transgenderism at this rate. Nazi-falsely educated people. President Trump will give everyone a short-term break (freedom). I just never imagined myself to be bullied by the Western whites for not-endorsing such inhumane depravity this century. The Westerners are not sorry for any of their past atrocities against all the colored people. Rich people never regard others as same human beings.

            Wayward rich oppressing the poor with depravity; even USA fits the same stupid category. So sad. Bullies always bully. You guys have nothing good apart from Christianity as a man is nothing apart from his own conscience. USA has no freedom or justice apart from Christianity. Don’t perish to protect rich men’s filthy wealth again. Learn something from your own Civil War. You should be thankful to the noble white Christian pioneers for creating the USA, not just to US military. I wonder what US soldiers are trying to protect if the nation is so immoral this century… Sad. The Lord knows. Praying for USA.

          • Jason

            “I just never imagined myself to be bullied by the Western whites for not-endorsing such inhumane depravity this century.” Bullying is bad and they should stop. We as a world need to come together and respect everyone.

            “The Westerners are not sorry for any of their past atrocities against all the colored people.” That’s not a fair statement. I live in the west and I believe slavery was a horrible thing… as do many/most of us in the US.

            “Rich people never regard others as same human beings. They just oppress.” I don’t like the wealth gap between middle and upper class here. If that’s what you mean.

            “USA has no freedom or justice apart from Christianity.” I disagree. We have freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of religion, etc.

            “Don’t perish to protect rich men’s filthy wealth.” I don’t i would like to see the wealth gap drastically shrink.

            “You should be thankful to the noble white Christian pioneers for creating the USA.” I am thankful that pioneers had the guts to set up colonies in North America seeking religious freedom.

            “I wonder what US soldiers are trying to protect.” …let freedom ring 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            There won’t be any respect among mankind if the Westerns don’t respect God and keep forcing immorality in the world. Sense of respect only exists among godly moral people and no other kinds. Western Liberals blaspheme God and insult the whole mankind by showing skin shamelessly. The West conducts slavery this century by installing homosexuality and transgenderism. This time the atrocity is done by systematic immorality instead of racism or nationalism. Rich Westerners demand mankind to endorse their inhumane depravity thinking no one can oppose them. Freedom is based on the Judeo-Christian values alone. All others bring tyranny and abuses.

            Today’s American liberty is a moral chaos and oppression by the Sodomites. Non-christian humans would never work for equality; they only function for more greed and bullying. Don’t be naive on humans. Secular Westerners are bad descendants because they bash their white Christian forefathers very badly and have no clue on their own civilization’s development or Christian contributions. I ask them whose product their soldiers are protecting. Freedom is Christianity. Ex-christian West forces immorality as Nazi Germany demanded mankind to hail Hitler. You guys have cultural defects by looking at nudity too much for too many centuries. Get fixed by the Church to be civilized again.

          • Jason

            “Sense of respect only exists among godly moral people and no other kinds.” …I respect the privacy of my neighbors… amongst other things.

            “insult the whole mankind by showing skin shamelessly.” There’s way worse things out there in world that could disgrace the human race 🙂

            “The West conducts slavery this century by installing homosexuality and transgenderism.” Comparing The fair treatment of others that are different than you to slavery (owning people as if they are property) is completely mad.

            “Freedom is based on the Judeo-Christian values alone.” If that’s what you believe, then people be free and make their own choices and live their own lives.

            “Non-christian humans would never work for equality.” Equality is one of the major roles in humanism.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            American atheists oppress Christians by blaspheming all the time. Their life-purpose is to make religious people suffer. You’d go to your fellow atheist friends to tell them to stop doing evil against the Christians if you had any honesty, instead of coming to Christian sites to bully the Christians.

            Westernized women showing off skin make mankind immoral and break marriages and families and increase sex slavery in a long-run that it’s really the fundamentally bad thing. Men become meaningless and violate everyone and anyone when there are only prostitutes in sight. Today’s society is the proof.

            Jason, don’t be naive. Your civilization has become godless and is thirsty again for innocent blood. They are bullying the moral Christians to take control this time. Indoctrinating the population to hate the Jews and indoctrinating the population to adhere to abnormal destructive immorality are the same thing – control by falsehood. Men are free only with the Holy Bible.

            What I told you is the observed historic fact and current fact, not a belief. The West therefore the entire world has no sane morality apart from the Judeo-Christian values. Everything else abuses humanity. Westerners overlook their long-standing Christian conscience too much. Equality is God-given. Mankind never knew of equality apart from the Holy Bible. Western humanism corrupted itself by putting humans first; that’s why they massacre the unborns to appease the witches.

          • Jason

            Oppress? No. blasphemy? By definition yes.
            “Their life-purpose is to make religious people suffer.” No

            “and increase sex slavery.” Are you talking about human trafficking? A big group of victims come from illegal prostitution. Australia decided to legalize prostitution and have designated brothels. This reduced trafficking due to security and STDs due to required testing and protection. See, there are other options then hide and be paranoid.

            “Indoctrinating the population to hate the Jews.” ??? Que. where did that come from.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You don’t see the problem because you are on the oppressors’ side. You are wrong on prostitution. It must get abolished altogether. Every woman deserves a good lifetime-husband unless she becomes a nun. All other aims are wrong. Immoral culture increases the number of victims. Skin-showing women actually hurt children. Yes, Sodomic West is increasingly oppressive against the Christians and any moral people. Witches are the women who murder children. Modern witches target unborn babies.

          • Jason

            “Modern witches target unborn babies.” And eat them 🙂

            Don’t witches do spells and things and use magic and what not?

            “You don’t see the problem because you are on the oppressors’ side.” I can say the same about you and your views.

            “Every woman deserves a good lifetime-husband.” Every woman can.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Witches kill children to possess demonic power. Bad women and bad governments kill unborn children out of inconvenience. Planned Parenthood kills the unborn children to possess demonic power and money. Those three are the same. Christians are being oppressed in the West although they are the only moral and right people. Secular West is repaying the good with evil to the Christian Church. If the society makes women prostitutes, those women cannot get married. Everyone needs Christian education to obtain human rights and freedom.

          • Jason

            Demonic power? how much power is needed for a lvl 5 hex spell? I mock because this all sounds ridiculous.

            There has been prostitution since the beginning of man… ish. society would not make women prostitutes by making it legal. And why can’t they get married?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Be realistic. Women are power-hungry as men are, but witches use different tactics. Slavery has been with men since very early era, but barbarism has to be abolished and never endorsed to the end. Men don’t marry prostitutes because prostitutes betray and abandon children – not worthy of man’s life.

          • Jason

            Not all Prostitutes have/abandon children. So you are saying there are no happily married prostitutes out there? That’s a hard claim to make. There are probably a few.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Some prostitutes repent and live a redeemed life, but rare. For women who know multiple men physically, it’s hard for them to be faithful to one husband even if they get one. Same for playboys – hard to be faithful to a wife.

          • Jason

            “who know multiple men.” Do you mean not virgins? You know that’s the majority of the world, right?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            There are still virgin brides in this world, still majority, but not so in rich secular nations.

          • Jason

            “still majority.” Yeah, if you count preteens and younger.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            No, the virgin bridegrooms and virgin brides. They are the majority on Planet Earth. Even if not, it is the only right way.

          • Jason

            To you. Leave up to the individual who they want to marry. I personally would not want to marry a virgin.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Purity-before-marriage is vital for a good noble character and a lasting marriage. I’m not talking about defenseless victims of crimes. You’ve been marred by your indecent culture and nothing’s standard. Man becomes right and happy by following God’s standard.

          • Jason

            “Purity-before-marriage is vital for a good noble character and a lasting marriage.” Again, to you. I am happily married with wonderful kids and neither of us were virgins at marriage. If it works for others then leave them be.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Don’t boast unless you’ve been married only once and stayed for 65 years. Non-virgins are not honest and do not stay faithful to each other because they are professionally trained to betray each other since youth. Also, having non-virgin brides feminize men and make men hopeless in general. Life has many griefs and happenings, but men should be loyal and honor-bound and women should be pure and loving for everyone to be happy.

          • Jason

            No boasting. Just stating we are happy with our sex-before-marriage marriage 🙂

            I am loyal to my family, my wife is loving to our family, and we are all happy 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Good that you married the woman you touched. That’s what a man should do if he commits such sins. Not all men are like you, though. There are more traitors than the faithfuls for those who don’t keep purity. Glad you are happy as a family for now, but all of you must repent of your sins and trust in Jesus to get saved and stay faithful.

          • Jason

            “Good that you married the woman you touched. That’s what a man should do if he commits such sins.” Wow, then I’m missing some wives 🙂 I think you misunderstood what I was saying. Both my wife and I had sex with other people before marriage and we are happily married.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Shame on you both. Don’t betray each other, okay?

          • Jason

            Death do us apart 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Why? Who taught you that?

          • Jason

            It’s the promise I made to my wife 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            All husbands and wives make such covenant. Where do you think it came from? Surely the vow is not your original invention. Where did you learn it? Why do you think you must stay with your wife till death? How did you get the idea?

          • Jason

            Respect… and evolution. Humans, along with 5% of mammals evolved to be monogamous. Humans just so happen to evolution promiscuous tendencies as well.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. Monogamy is a built-in nature among the humans. Humans are not animals but God’s image-bearers. Only slave owners and baby-killers disagree.

          • Jason

            “Only slave owners and baby-killers disagree.” And scientists. Organisms are classified into three Domains and into one of six Kingdoms of life. These Kingdoms are Archaebacteria, Eubacteria, Protista, Fungi, Plantae, and Animalia (animal). By definition humans are animals… and mammals. You do know we are mammals, right?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            According to body functions alone. Living things especially humans have something much more than body functions. It’s spiritual. Humans are not animals although same creatures and living entities; treating humans as animals is a godless classification. Humans are God’s image-bearers unlike animals and have moral responsibility.

          • Jason

            There you go disagreeing with the experts 🙂

            How can you say we are not animals? Are we plants? Fungi? Bacteria?

            There are many animals with a wide range of empathy (morals). Humans aren’t the only species.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Experts in Western Sodom would say anything to make personal gains, even sacrificing children’s welfare. They are not trustworthy. We are humans, God’s image-bearers and morally responsible. Atheists kill humans because they treat humans as animals. Nothing like humanity’s morality exists in animals, and animals are not morally responsible unlike humans.

          • Jason

            Western, eastern, northern, southern. Science is science. They all follow the same rules.

            “They are not trustworthy.” Science denier 🙂

            “treat humans as animals.” We are animals

            Human’s cognitive ability greatly surpasses all other animals, hence a greater sense of empathy, sympathy, and morals. But other animals do display ranges of morals. Are they as developed as our morals? No, but they are there 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            No, the Western liberals successfully educated some people to deny God in the science field. Everyone bows to bullies except for honest humans. Things are changing however; godless West and its faithful servants are collapsing from suicidal blasphemy and infanticide with the entire planet hopelessly polluted. Our “billions-of-years-old” Planet Earth is dying off from a few decades of pollution by mankind. You are made into a non-free thinker by atheists. Humans are not animals, although atheists indeed behave worse than animals. No, human’s ability to worship, think, use languages, decide, and sacrifice is far beyond any animals. Liberals insist that humans are animals so that they could kill unborn children and get away, but they won’t.

          • Jason

            “No, the Western liberals successfully educated some people to deny God in the science field.” Incorrect

            “Our “billions-of-years-old” Planet Earth is dying off from a few decades of pollution by mankind.” Agreed. Our planet’s ecosystem is in jeopardy of falling apart and we need to clean up where we live and not treat it like a trash can.

            “You are made into a non-free thinker by atheists.” Explain. What’s funny is (I didn’t want to bring it up, but sense you did) that’s what we think about indoctrinated religious people 🙂

            “Humans are not animals.” Ok, which of the biological kingdoms to humans fit in?

            “human’s ability to worship, think, use languages, decide, and sacrifice is far beyond any animals.” Agreed. That’s not what I was saying.

            “Liberals insist that humans are animals so that they could kill unborn children.” That’s the weirdest thing I have ever heard 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You have no idea, but the non-believers in the East and in the South are always blind-obedient to the godless West. Christian West was worthy of following, but Sodomic West should not be followed. Jason, it’s too late; our planet cannot be recovered. Read II Peter chapter 3. But you could repent of your sin and get saved. Halting infanticide may prolong the planet’s life. Western atheists are the un-thinking people, and amoral at that. Even the communists had something better.

            Religious peoples at least seek the Good seriously; Western atheists and Western hedonists only live to destroy the Good. There is a difference even in the un-thinking. Consider spirituality and morality, not just biology. Entities are not made only with physical. The brains and outlook must be outstanding even by biology, though. The Northeners did not grow body hair like the Polar bears’. When non-believers insist something contradictory to the Word of God, the purpose is always continuance of certain sins.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Read the Holy Bible. God said: “Then God blessed Noah and his sons, saying to them, ‘…And for your lifeblood I will surely demand an accounting. I will demand an accounting from every animal. And from each human being, too, I will demand an accounting for the life of another human being. Whoever sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made mankind.'” (Genesis chapter 9)

          • Jason

            How do you know it’s true?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Because it sounds true and makes sense according to the observable reality.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Jason, racism is worse than ever on Planet Earth and white people are endangered all because the stupid immoral liberal whites brainwashed mankind to hate the Christian white people of every era. White people are not smart without Christianity. Everyone despises a man who scorns his own conscience and his own parents and legacy. Rotten kids from a rich good family take no honor. Just remember that.

          • truefreedom

            No, it’s not that easy, because the gay rights movement is not happy with me merely tolerating them; instead, they want to enforce my approval of their rather odd and contrary-to-nature and life-threatening lifestyle. If I don’t approve of it, they will try to destroy my career. So, no, it’s not really easy peezey. You sound like a buffoon. Lots of sloganeering but not much thinking going on with you …

          • Jason

            “enforce my approval.” How?

            “contrary-to-nature and life-threatening lifestyle.” … very natural. There have been observed homosexual animals all throughout the world. I was going to make a list of all the animals that have been shown to have homosexual tendencies, but the list is too large.

            “If I don’t approve of it, they will try to destroy my career.” How? Do you approve of it? Do you still have your career? 🙂

            “You sound like a buffoon.” I am learning how to juggle.

            “sloganeering” I’m putting that on my résumé. Six figure salary 🙂

          • TheKingOfRhye

            What kind of career do you have, that your acceptance or disapproval of LGBT people matters one way or the other, though?

          • truefreedom

            Humanism is a bit of a sham, don’t you think? It pretends to go “just by reason” but it smuggles in all sorts of metaphysical abstractions such as “objective morality” and terms like “meaning.” In a naturalistic, Darwinist universe, the only meaning you have is to reproduce yourself. The most consistent naturalistic scientists freely admit that. If you still want meaning and objective morality in your naturalistic universe, you are actually living on the fumes of Christianity.

          • Jason

            “Humanism is a bit of a sham, don’t you think?” No

            “but it smuggles in all sorts of metaphysical abstractions such as “objective morality” and terms like “meaning.”” Objective morals and meaning is not needed to aid and progress mankind.

            “In a naturalistic, Darwinist universe, the only meaning you have is to reproduce yourself.” Reproduction… along with fear of death is a driving force behind most natural biological phenomenon. It is not a “meaning” per say, but it does not mean life is meaningless. People create their own meaning. I would like to see my kids grow up successfully and happy. I would like to someday (after the military) become a chemist. That is my meaning. That is what drives my life.

          • truefreedom

            What does it mean to “believe in” humanity? Sounds sort of cultish to me.

          • Jason

            I believe we, as humans, as a whole, can and will accomplish great things. No cult; that’s silly 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            That’s what’s so wrong about you, Jaaon. American atheists should immigrate to North Korea their own utopia. They worship humanity there.

          • Jason

            “American atheists should immigrate to North Korea their own utopia.” I like the freedom I have here.

            “They worship humanity there.” Incorrect.

            “Americans created the nation to worship God freely.” Close. pilgrims first came to American seeking religious freedom, which in turn, became a big part of our constitution.

            “He alone must be worshipped.” Why. How do you know you picked the right one?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            No, today’s Sodomic USA persecutes the Christians. Only the warped hedonists have freedom in the West, not the Christians. That means there is no freedom actually in today’s West. Secularism forces evil amorality upon the people. Hopefully President Trump will fix some mess in the USA. The Pilgrims created the USA. All others are mere parasites and should be grateful to God and to the Puritans forever. Products belong to creaters forever. Christrian USA has been superb; Sodomic USA is horrible. There is only one true living God; Americans know no other. You are being a bad descendant, mocking Christianity and mocking all of your normal slender Christian ancestors and forefathers.

          • Jason

            I don’t know where you get your information from. I truly don’t. I don’t mock Christianity; I merely ask questions, try and reason with Christians and watch their heads spin from circular answers. I will admit I did laugh and mock your answers, but that is your answers (because they are so ridiculous) and not the religion as a whole.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The news. You are living in a dream. Non-christian Westerners attack and mock the Christians. New bullies are against the gentle Christians instead against the colored peoples. Bullying is bullying. It’s in your vein. Read the Holy Bible and repent of your sin.

          • Jason

            “News bullies are against the gentle Christians instead against the colored peoples.” Wait what!? You have some crazy propaganda going on where you are from.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Colored people had to worry about racism from the whitepeople in the West before. Today’s young people in the secula nations, both white and colored, are chaotic reagading morality, unless they have Christian instructions. Today, Christians have to worry discriminations from the hedonists in the West. For colored Christians and white conservative Christian males, the situation of the society has gotten only worse in the West. Mankind have rights to morality.

          • Jason

            … I don’t know what you are talking about.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            It all happened many years before you were born. Just know that racists are better than baby-killing pervs.

          • Jason

            When’s your next KKK Meeting?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I’m not white. KKK is your own race’s problem, not mine. Racism is wrong, but so is Sodomy. Racists are better than pervs because white racists leave other people alone today, but the Western Sodomites corrupt every child on the globe. It’s kind of funny that people take it as racism if white people do not mingle with others but take it as perfectly all-right if any colored people stay within themselves and exclude others. See the double standards against white people?

          • Jason

            … incorrect

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You fight against KKK and I fight against dog-eaters, okay?

          • Jason

            Sounds good to me

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            ? I get news from my Western Christian friends from the Western nations.

          • Jason

            I don’t think they say bullies have shifted from hating black people to hating Christians. That’s silly

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The yellows suffered racism from the whites, too. It’s okay; the white people are the nicest people to other races today, and racism has been always rather rampant within the same race. I noticed the Westerners bringing inter-racial marriage and same-sex marriage together all the time and saw their real implications by doing it. I also saw the Western nations and Western white powerfuls and their mental slaves pushing and funding homosexuality and transgenderism in the world. Mimicking the Western whites has been always coolest thing for many Earthlings, but their abnormal immorality is detrimental now. Today, Westerners mock Christianity and I saw the evil repetition of persecutions because I’m a colored Christian. You guys have not changed; you just regrouped the victims.

            Forcing of falsehood (endorsement of homosexuality and transgenderism this time) is age-old tactics by villains to control people. I hope Americans will fight against their culture’s evil unlike the Germans who did not. I concluded that the West’s inclination to nudism has brought this disasterous hatred against the truth, although seeking the truth unconditionally has been the Christian West’s victorious values. You guys are being horribly bored from a full stomach on a starving, sadness-filled planet.

          • Roy Hobs

            Grace — what country are you from?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Multiple. Northern Eastern Asia and North America. I’m not typical of any national. Are you American?

          • Roy Hobs

            Are you American?
            Yes. Born and raised.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Then stop defending Hitler. Christian USA beat up Nazi Germany.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            [Thus says the Lord:
            “Cursed is the man who trusts in man
            And makes flesh his strength,
            Whose heart departs from the Lord.
            For he shall be like a shrub in the desert,
            And shall not see when good comes,
            But shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness,
            In a salt land which is not inhabited.

            “Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord,
            And whose hope is the Lord.
            For he shall be like a tree planted by the waters,
            Which spreads out its roots by the river,
            And will not fear when heat comes;
            But its leaf will be green,
            And will not be anxious in the year of drought,
            Nor will cease from yielding fruit.”

            “The heart is deceitful above all things,
            And desperately wicked;
            Who can know it?
            I, the Lord, search the heart,
            I test the mind,
            Even to give every man according to his ways,
            According to the fruit of his doings.]
            (Jeremiah chapter 17)

          • Jason

            …k
            I can post chapter 1 of Harry Potter for you if you’d like.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            No thank you. The Western writings have lost values after you guys lost Christianity. They only promote something bad. Seek the Good instead of giving the evil equal rights. Read the Holy Bible and obtain the truth. You must repent of your sins to get saved. John chapter 3.

          • Jason

            “They only promote something bad.” I also help and promote feeding the homeless… AHHHHH!!! Not the bad charity work 🙂

            “evil equal rights.” 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Christians feed the homeless. Leberals care nothing except for killing the unborn children and promoting homosexuality.

          • Jason

            … are you saying only Christians can feed the homeless? If so… incorrect. Just a few minutes ago I said I like to help the homeless.

            “Leberals care nothing except for killing the unborn children and promoting homosexuality.” You make it seem like all I do is plan and scheme my next baby killing… surrounded by naked gay dudes. That’s not America 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You have learned that virtue from your Christian ancestors. Feeding homeless becomes nothing if it’s done along with promoting abortion and homosexuality. Immoral people get drugged anyway. They need the Gospel to get saved. Yes, secular America lives for hedonism, not even for finding out the truth.

          • truefreedom

            I don’t think you have any idea what a fairy tale is, much less what kind of book the Bible is. You’re just mindless parroting what people have told you. You probably also believe the fairy tale that life created itself. Amazing what people will believe.

          • Jason

            “You’re just mindless parroting what people have told you.” … ditto 🙂

            “You probably also believe the fairy tale that life created itself.” That is not what I believe. I don’t know how life started.

            “…much less what kind of book the Bible is.” “Amazing what people will believe.” 🙂

      • Chet

        Once one snaps-out into eternity, as all men do, one day or another, one will then face the conclusion of reality. For the saved, those who repented of their sin and trusted in the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary to wash away all their unrighteousness, there is a home beyond the sky known as Heaven. It’s a prepared place for prepared people and no one is beyond God Almighty’s free offer of salvation as Jesus saves from the guttermost to the uttermost, and turns no one away, ever.

        On the other hand, for those who depart this life while as yet in their sin, eternity envelopes such ones in the madhouse of humanity. A place where there’s weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth, a place where blood curdling screams of the damned are heard round the clock seven days a week. It’s a place of outer darkness where those so consigned are tormented in the flames and yet they never cease to exist nor end their suffering and consciousness. This place was created for the Devil and his angels but men will enter therein as well, not because God didn’t love them, not because God didn’t care, but because of the blindness of their own depraved hearts and their personal final rejection of God’s grace and infinite mercy shown to all men via His only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary. And this awful place is not an adjective, as used so often today in frivolity and foolishness, but, rather, is a noun. This place is Hell. And it’s real and awaits all who reject Christ and snap-out into eternity lost and undone, without God and His Son. Respectfully, consider receiving the Lord Jesus Christ as your own personal Lord and Saviour. You have absolutely nothing to lose in simply reading the book of John within your own Holy Bible’s New Testament. Thank you for this opportunity and God bless, Jason…

        • Jason

          … but how do you know. This article is about the historical accuracy of the genesis stories. Do you believe them to be 100% true? If so, why?

          • Chet

            Respectfully, Jason, here’s my best response, for the sake of time and space. First-off, I believe God’s Word, the Holy Bible, period. And having been a Christian (saved/born again) for quite some time I have come to understand it pretty well. Do I fully understand it all, absolutely not, and neither does anyone else. All men are sinners by nature (birth) and practice, choice.

            One thing I can attest to, personally, is that I was once lost and on my way to a Christless eternity in Hell, deservedly so. I was once a drunk, an adulterer, a fornicator etc., and had no care nor concern for the things of God. Essentially, I was as all other men, doing what I wanted to do when I desired to do so and that’s that, giving no thought of tomorrow, much less eternity, judgment and the wages of sin.

            Then, one day I received a gospel tract, a tiny little pamphlet, from a stranger and as I was sick late one night and alone, in quiet, I began reading it. I learned God loved me and all other sinners, like yourself, and He sent His only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ to Calvary’s Cross to suffer and die for my sins, and for your sins and for those of the whole world.

            God Almighty is Holy and He does not approve of sin in any form nor does He acquit the wicked on their own. And because of my sin, and your sin, we are separated from God and on our way to eternal destruction. That is, unless and until we recognize our own personal lost estate and in faith, believe the good news gospel. That is, the death, burial and resurrection of Christ just as was foretold some 700 years earlier in the Holy Bible’s Old Testament book of Isaiah.

            The Holy Spirit of God then convicted me in a terrible manner and assured me I was among the lost of this world. Thus, I took God at His Word and repented of my sin and called upon the name of the Lord Jesus in faith believing and asked Him for mercy and forgiveness. To my great relief, God was merciful and He instantly forgave me for all my myriad sins. He did so not on anything good on my part, nor for any “religious” activities I or deeds I may had ever done, but, He forgave me wholly based on the righteousness of His wonderful Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. At the moment of salvation and forgiveness, the Holy Bible declared me forgiven as the precious blood of Christ washed away all my unrighteousness and cleansed me whiter than snow. All in accordance with His Word.

            I then became a born-again or saved man and not only were all my sins forgiven, but, unlike with men, God, for Christ Jesus’ sake, even forgets one’s innumerable sins. Men cannot ever forget such, as I can never forget my own, but, Jesus has and that’s all that matters in light of eternity. Now, in closing, although I’m very far today from the man I should be, I am also very far from the wretched man I used to be. And that’s my own personal experience and I know the same of others just like me.

            Respectfully, you would have nothing to lose in simply reading the New Testament book of John in your own Holy Bible. It’s among the easiest to understand and it tells completely and in much more profound manner just who Christ is and why He came to this sin cursed world. Jesus saves from the guttermost (me) to the uttermost, perhaps you. God bless and thank you for this opportunity to share God’s love for and with you, Jason…

          • Jason

            First off, I’m glad your life has turned around for the better. Alcohol abuse is a real thing and I’m glad you are over it.

            You said your journey started with a Jesus pamphlet. How did you know what you read was correct. How did you know you just didn’t believe a story. The way I distinguish between truth and myth is that truth can be discovered and myths have to be passed down. If humans somehow lost all knowledge, in our brains and written down, We still be able to rediscover everything science has to offer. We will not be able to re-scribe all religious text and the myths would be lost.

            I read the Bible… a long time ago, but I stomached through it, and I did not find it that impressive. The same would be if you read the Quran… or whatever they have. I will gladly believe in the Bible, Jesus, God when the evidence points me in that direction.

            You don’t need religion to not be a drunk or a cheater. Good luck.

          • Chet

            Sin itself is the abuse, whichever form and style; drugs, booze, sex outside of marriage, hate, any of the Ten Commandments God gave and expects of mankind to follow. And if you’d speak to those who are bound to drugs and alcohol, for example, you’d find some who do not want to stop, while yet others would love to stop but they cannot find the strength in and of themselves to do so. Christ breaks the bondage of sin, period, whatever the case. And once one receives Christ as his own personal Lord and Saviour, one loses the desire for sin, period, though, some habits are hard to deal with and take time to part with. Yet, Christ give one strength to do so as one yields to His then indwelling Holy Spirit.

            I believed that tract because as I read it, it contained verses from the Holy Bible to support each pictorial and piece and I was somewhat familiar with them all. It was not a device of man’s doing, alone. And I always believed the Holy Bible was God’s Word even when I couldn’t have cared less about what thus saith the Lord. I accept it by faith, the faith God gave me. You know what faith is, especially, for example, when one flies. Upon entering the aircraft one employs great faith that the pilots are thoroughly trained and know what they’re doing. No one dares ask them such, the passengers simply take it all in faith.

            One can be assured when reading his own Holy Bible that God is so speaking to him and one can confidently stake his eternity upon it’s words. No other god creature anywhere was born of a virgin, lived a sinless life, was Himself God in flesh, always went about doing good, willingly sacrificed Himself on an Old Rugged Cross for the sins of all mankind, who there suffered and died, was buried and yet arose and lives evermore, one day to return and gather His own to Himself. No other object of man’s faith can lay such claim, none… Jesus said “I am The Way, The Truth and The Life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by Me” John 14:6.

            You should be able to believe in God the same as you do the wind, you cannot see it, don’t know where it comes from nor where it’s going, but it’s there, just like electricity, you can’t even explain it thoroughly. Moreover, you should be able to see God in nature all around you, animals, plants, Sun, Moon, Stars, Oceans and in a newborn babe. Further, you should be able to see God in the changed lives of your friends and family who have come unto the Lord Jesus as Christ specializes in transformed lives…

            And you are correct, one doesn’t need “religion” to not be a drunk or cheater. “Religion” is man’s effort at appeasing the object of his faith, whatever or whomever that object happens to be and in whom or what he is voluntarily obligated. “Religion” attempts to reach upward to the god object of man’s own choosing and if you watch the news, Dude, you can see all kinds of things being done nowadays in the name of “religion”. And while some works are indeed good, others are barbaric and extremely wicked in nature and scope.

            With Christianity, Holy God Almighty reaches downward to all us sinners and has provided the single solitary means for all mankind’s salvation and forgiveness and such is via Christ and Him crucified, buried and living today and forever. Christianity is all about one’s relationship to God Almighty via His only begotten Son and not “religion”… And luck is of no consequence to me as I am kept by the power of God and whatever befalls me, I trust Him to work things out to His glory and in my best interest. Thanks for this opportunity to share and God bless…

          • Jason

            “Sin itself is the abuse, whichever form and style; drugs, booze, sex outside of marriage, hate, any of the Ten Commandments God gave.” I don’t think not drinking alcohol is one of the 10 commandments. I could be wrong, but I know a certain someone who people think can turn water into wine 🙂

            “while yet others would love to stop but they cannot find the strength in and of themselves to do so.” Yes they are addicted, some may be dependent. It’s a well known chemical and biological phenomenon. There are many ways to help addicts which does not involve religion… with higher success rates.

            “Upon entering the aircraft one employs great faith that the pilots are thoroughly trained.” I trust the pilot. There is a difference between trust and faith.

            There are many claims of gods (before Jesus) that was born of a virgin. And then the rest of the paragraph… how do you know?

            “You should be able to believe in God the same as you do the wind…electricity.” We understand how wind and electricity work. No god needed to explain the natural phenomenon 🙂

            Well, I’m glad you got off the drugs and alcohol, but it seems like you replaced on addiction with another. Like a nicotine patch to a smoker.

          • Chet

            You have no explanation for wind, how it originates, and where it ends up. Per your responses, you may know of someone who once turned water into wine but you do not know Him, personally. Yet, you can indeed. Faith and trust are interchangeable.

            Please cite which gods were virgin born. I am in need of learning something here and I want to know if such one is very God in flesh, lived a sinless life, died for the sake of others, was buried, arose three days later and is alive evermore and soon to be returning for His own. Cite examples of believers in theses gods whose lives were wonderfully transformed via their power, then, share what these gods plan for their faithful believers at the point of personal deaths. And the defect in each and every man is not a chemical imbalance or biological malfunction, but, rather, is Sin at the source…

            Respectfully, you go much much farther out of your way in seeking to disprove God’s love for you, personally, and His free offer of mercy and grace and forgiveness of all your myriad sins and eternal life with Him upon snapping-out into eternity than I’ve ever need to simply say, yes, Lord. Yes, Lord Jesus, I am a sinner in desperate need of forgiveness and mercy and grace and I call upon you in faith, believing the good news gospel and taking you at your Word for my personal salvation. Whereas my faith is childlike, trusting and relying upon, yours is seeking something unknown beyond that of yourself, essentially declaring yourself as all knowing and thus almighty. Nevertheless, Jesus saves and He is not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance. All…

          • Jason

            “You have no explanation for wind.” …not to be rude, but I do. 2 seconds on the internet. Wind is caused by differences in atmospheric pressure. Kinda like how things get sucked out of a hole in a space craft.

            “Please cite which gods were virgin born.” Buddha, Laozi, Krishna, Horus, Martha, Muhammad, Kabir, Zoroaster, Quetzalcoatl to name a few.

            “And the defect in each and every man is not a chemical imbalance or biological malfunction, but, rather, is Sin at the source…” that’s not what science says.

            “Respectfully, you go much much farther out of your way in seeking to disprove God’s love for you” I’m not trying to disprove anything. I would like others to justify their claim rationally… with evidence.

            I am not all knowing or almighty 🙂 just Jason, a normal dude who enjoys learning about the world and cosmos.

          • Chet

            That’s great, learn all you can while you can. Just don’t do so at the risk of needlessly losing your own eternal soul. “For what shall it profit a man if he should gain the whole world and lose his own soul”? “Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul”? Mark 8:36-37, Holy Bible. “And as it is appointed unto men once to die but after this, the judgment” Hebrews 9:27…

          • Jason

            “That’s great, learn all you can while you can. Just don’t do so at the risk of needlessly losing your own eternal soul.” Sounds goods. You as well. Take care and stay curious.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Curiosity is futile. Read the Word of God and repent of your sin to get saved.

          • Jason

            “Curiosity is futile.” Curiosity is the foundation of discovery. It’s in our human nature. If human beings were never curious we would still be content cave men 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Unbelieving Westerners wonder for ever and never read the Word of God to find out the truth with honesty and sincerity. Such curiosity is a curiocity for the sake of curiocity and ends with curiosity and is futile.

          • Jason

            … I’m not sure what you said, but everyone should always be curious. Curiosity is the opposite of futile and has made us who we are today

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are incorrect. Secular West’s curiosity is a malicious determination not to know God, unlike the Christian West’s curiosity that quests after the truth unconditionally. Man needs a right heart first.

  • TheKingOfRhye

    So, which of the parts that contradict each other are the real history?

    • Cal

      These are fake objections. None of original story contradicts. I’d be happy to debunk any of these. Many attempts have been made to show a contradiction, but none hold up.

      • This style 10/6

        Two differing creation acounts, different in style, content and the name of god. It is obvious that these accounts ts came from different oral sources and we’re mashed together by a later editor.

        This is the view of most bible scholars.

        • Amos Moses

          wow …. what antisemitism ………

          • This style 10/6

            How you can read anti-semitism into that is beyond me. I think you just make stuff up.

          • Amos Moses

            well it must be your reasoning that the Hebrews were just to stupid to have figured it out on their own ….. and they had to steal it from others ….. as you discount God as being involved …. what else could you possibly mean ………. antisemitism ……… the Jews are stupid and thieves ………

          • This style 10/6

            The Noah’s flood story certainly comes from an earlier source. There is nothing surprising about this, all literature rests on the past.

          • Amos Moses

            nope ….. they stole it from the Hebrews ……..

          • This style 10/6

            You seem to think that “nope” makes your case. The story of Gilgamesh is earlier than that of Noah.

          • Amos Moses

            nope …. you seem to think the Hebrews and Jews are stupid and theives and that “Gilgamesh”writings being dated as prior are accurately dated …… no proof …….. and that the Hebrews had access to it over the ancient “internets” ……… antisemitic ……… and even if what Gille wrote down is true as to the date ….. it only confirms Noah … your argument is specious at best ………..

          • This style 10/6

            And yours is incoherent.

          • Amos Moses

            antisemitic ………

          • Robert

            Hey he. Is really talented he can place chimera embryos in genesis to.

          • Amos Moses

            “Hey if he can place chimera embryos in Genesis Daniel and Revelation ”

            Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.
            7:8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, ****** in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things. ******

            Revelation
            13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?
            13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
            13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
            13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
            13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

            hmmmmmmmmmm ……… gotta start somewhere …. like an embryo …..

          • Amos Moses

            Ecclesiastes
            1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
            1:8 All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
            1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
            1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.

            Nothing new under the sun …. it has all been done before ….. chimera embryos are not “new” …..

          • This style 10/6

            How about iPhones!

          • Robert

            Communication is not new , nor is pictures and humans have also been computing since Adam and eve. If it weren’t for the brains God Gave .
            You would not have a device called a I phone that brings these 3 things into your hand with the elements God also made.

          • This style 10/6

            The elements were created by nucleosynthesis in the stars.

          • Amos Moses

            because you have been to the center of a star and have seen or measured it ……….. right …..

          • Robert

            What does your pastors recommended bible comentary say about the verse you quoted ? I would like to see it.. Jesus being born was most definitely a new thing thst was never done before. yet child birth is not new under the son . Do you understand that

            Now a good commentary by some one who devoted his life to the study of the bible would explain the verse with out making it jump through all the hoops we people want it to .and yet keep the truth of the verse pure truth AS God intended.

          • Amos Moses

            i guess you have a problem with Father/Son/Holy Spirit …. they wrote it …. if you choose to limit its scope …. thats up to you …. and your “commentaries” ……….. if you choose to not like the way i put it ….. feel free to exercise your christian freedom …. and ignore it ……

          • Robert

            What bible commentary do your more learned than you pastors recomend ? That’s a fair question.No one here exspects you or me to be more learned than our pastors.

          • Amos Moses

            i have a pastor …. i do not rely on his or any other pastor to the exclusion of all else ….. nor commentaries to the exclusion of all else ….. i use numerous sources …… the list is too long to put down here ……….. i mostly rely on scripture and the Holy Spirit ……. and i then form my own opinion within that framework …….. older commentaries are good for some understanding ….. but the times we now find ourselves in ….. makes a lot of older commentaries not too useful ……… scripture tells us that many things about scripture are hidden and will remain hidden until we are closer to certain events happening ….. and a lot of older commentaries authors did not have the information to make certain calls ….

            Daniel 12
            12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
            12:5 Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.
            12:6 And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?
            12:7 And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.
            12:8 And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?
            12:9 And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

            it goes on further …………..

          • Robert

            Thanks for letting me know that you don’t have the slightest idea about what bible commentary your pastor recomends. You seem not to want to know what he recommends. Let’s just hope it not A sops fables.or Alice in wonderland..

          • Robert

            Your one of my favorite commentators here Amos Moses. Your reply was more than adequate it was very good really
            But I did not want to tell you that right away so to let your head swell so you can get a sweater on. PARTS of the bible is picture language . For example Jesus is called the vine. I think you would know this doesn’t mean he has actual leaves growing out of his skin. . It’s picture language to explain his relation ship and our relation ship to him. What I’m getting at .Are you sure you interpretation Of those animals I’n revelation that you equate as chemera embryos is not picture language ? Read the beginning of revelations ask your self is not a unusual thing happening to John here
            What about Daniel does the bible indicate a dream going on or something different .should you take some of these passages as picture language .can you Find the indicators the bid itself gives?
            On what to take as picture language and what mot to take. Use passages in other parts of the bible to help.

          • Amos Moses

            all of scripture is type and shadow of Christ ….. it is all about him …..

            “Are you sure you interpretation Of those animals I’n revelation that you equate as chemera embryos is not picture language ?”

            look at the hieroglyphics in ancient Egypt and their “gods” …… took a lot of work to carve all that into stone ……. i do not think they did it to make “cartoons” …………. they were creative enough to make cartoons ….. but i think they made carvings in stone of things they actually saw …… and they are not alone …… the same kinds of carvings and descriptions can be found in meso-america ….. and in native cultures the world over ….. winged snake images as gods are in most cultures that never had any contact with christianity or ancient Hebrews ………

            sure they could be as you suggest …… but pig-human hybirds are not word pictures …. they exist ……..

          • Robert

            Oh Chimera embryos !

          • Amos Moses

            so when Revelation mentions “the beast” and it is a human person ….. is that just “allegory” ……

          • Robert

            What does Kretzmann bible commentary say ? it’s on the web and if you want why not give the name of the commentary your pastor uses so people can look at what it says also. I would think the credentials of that person who wrote that commentary that your pastor uses would and should be impressive also. AND THIS WAY THERE would be no miss understanding . That what said is just your or my personal opinions. A majority of you and me . Is not nearly as impressive . I know this hard for both of us to believe
            Since we think we are impressive. That’s with the first two letters being a I haveand m and not a D and E. Which others might be thinking of us.

          • Amos Moses

            Noah was not a Jew …. he was Hebrew …. what is your point ….. oh yeah …. you do not have one ………..

          • Robert

            Ok I give in
            He brew what ? tea ? Perhaps some coffee ? I h ‘ve no idea you tell me what he brewd back then. I Must have missed that part in the bible
            I’m still looking for those chimera embryos you said was in the bible. Iam Thinking you We’re just being mean to me again about that.

          • Robert

            So is bacon !# have you ever eaton bacon ? YUM bacon ,

          • Amos Moses

            i know a number of Jews that enjoy a bacon cheeseburger …… and your objection to bacon is your own misreading of scripture ……. as you have not read or are ignoring the whole of scripture ….. that law was fulfilled in Christ ….. He kept that law …. perfectly …. for everyone ….. care to try the lobster …..

            it is always interesting that such foolish things are brought up by those unregenerate persons who cannot hear Gods words and cannot see their own folly ……… it is a pity …….

          • Robert

            Now I’m unregenerate . You sound a lot like Zwingli and perhaps some what like Calvin in that remark. I hope

            The Lord lets me be the one to show you around heaven when you get there. Just because I want to see the look on your face.

          • Amos Moses

            i did not say you were unregenerate ….. it was a general remark ……. but you used an unregenerate comment none the less ……

          • Robert

            I did huh not sure where you meas

            yet I do that a lot
            I think it comes with the territory of a christian being saint and sinner both at the same time.

          • Amos Moses

            no such things as “purgatory” or “limbo” …. well there is a Purgatory in Az …. i think ….

          • Robert

            your ok and im not going to listen to what your mom says about you anymore.

        • Robert

          Nope

          The same account yet different focus points during that account . A anlogy might be. One can take a picture of a beautiful field in bloom and also take a picture of a flower in that field or a bunch of flowers and trees. The second picture goes into mote detail of what’s in the field.

          • This style 10/6

            Anyone acquainted with literare criticism can see that the style of each is so dif feet that they must have come from separate sources.

            I have never understood why anyone finds this worth refuting. The whole bible is composed of accounts from different sources and in the beginning these were all oral.

          • Robert

            Different sources about the same account is possible. . Though the original source had to be God himself. SIMCE HE As the only one there at creation and Since its in the bible it’s also true.

          • This style 10/6

            The bible was written by men, who created god. Moses is part of the myth.

            However there is little point in trying to have a reasonable discussion with a bible literalist.

          • Amos Moses

            and there is little point for an unregenerate person to be on a christian forum ….. and you have no evidence of “The bible was written by men, who created god. Moses is part of the myth.” ……….

          • Robert

            Whether in the robes of academia or I’n the garb of common sense.Reason the devils bride,is dressed to go into battle against the gospel of Christ .And since the time of Cain the most appealing theologians ,apologists, philosophers and scientists have rallied to her side,supported her cause and worshiped at her alter. Martin Luther.

          • This style 10/6

            Does that mean that the gospel of Christ is unreasonable?

          • Robert

            If we could come to faith in Jesus by our reason there would be no need for the Holy Spirit. Now let me ask why do you
            .always resist his whisper.? That Jesus has already won you heaven to ?

          • Amos Moses

            yep …. they were orally and audibly spoken to Moses …. who was instructed to write them down ……. as were the others ……

        • Robert

          That’s Not true only most bible scholars today because of a chip on there shoulder. They now use higher critical interpretations where they sit in judgement “over” what said in the bible .this way they can pick and choose what they want to believe. LUTHERS WAY OF INTERPEYING THAT OLD WAY they couldn’t pick and choose . That way is called the old historical gramatical way of interpreting
          Or What the Bible says is what It means unless the bible itself directs in the context of what it is saying on a subjects a different way to interpret the related verses.

          • This style 10/6

            Frankly, I don’t know what to make of your comment. Certainly bible scholars use the highest forms of criticism and research. What is wrong with that?

        • bowie1

          Not really. One is an overall view and then the second chapter gets down to more specific details.

          • This style 10/6

            This is the usual attempt to explain away the contradiction but it doesn’t hold up. The sequence of events is different, in Genesis 2

            5 Now no shrub had yet appeared on the earth and no plant had yet sprung up, for the Lord God had not sent rain on the earth and there was no one to work the ground, 6 but streams came up from the earth and watered the whole surface of the ground. 7 Then the Lord God formed a man from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.

            God formed man before there was vegetation.

            In Genesis 1 man is formed after he had created everything else.

            There is also the difference in style and the name of god making it evident that these accounts come from different sources.

          • cadcoke5

            Your view requires that the word “earth” in these
            verses is the whole of the globe, rather than the local ground. But, the
            word “erets” can be used in either the local or global sense. And Genesis chapters 2-3 certainly seems focused on local, rather than global, events.Later in the Old Testament, the same word is mostly used in the local sense.

            I can understand the misunderstanding in English. Local to me is mostly farm land, and it is
            certainly understood that to, “work the earth” uses earth in the local sense.
            But, perhaps in areas away from farming communities, they may be less familiar
            with this use of the word earth.

            If someone were collecting stories and then merging them together
            as one, you might think that the writer might want to fix any contradictions. Or,
            alternatively, outright reject the contradictory ones.

          • cadcoke5

            Sorry, there were formatting errors that I could not fix for some reason. To continue…

            The 2-story criticism feels more than a little forced, and is highly speculative. It certainly is not something required from the text.

            While the 1st 5 books have long been referred to as the “Books of Moses”,
            I do believe that, since the man who used his pen to write Genesis is not named in scripture, that it is acceptable to speculate that there were multiple authors over time who took their turn to add to the historical events. This is certainly true later in scripture. But, if you want to assert a contradiction, then you are asserting that scripture does not have its source in God, who “exhaled” it. (II Tim 3:16).

            Seeking out potential contradictions is a worthy goal, if you goal is to test if the scriptures have made the journey through time intact, and have a single ultimate author. But, I think you will find that there are no concrete contradictions that you can nail down. Rather, the proposed contradictions are a similar character to the 2nd creation account criticism.

          • This style 10/6

            You might think that but they didn’t, they just mashed them together to produce the contradictory, error and myth filled book that has si influenced western society.

            It is time we dumped it.

        • cadcoke5

          These proposed “two different accounts” very much seem to me, that the 1st is the general story, and the 2nd is the more detailed description of the 6th day. It is like a school writing assignment to “Write about your summer vacation,” and a child writes,
          On the first day of our vacation we drove down to Florida. On the second day we went to Daytona Beach. Then we drove home the next day.
          I especially liked the day we went to Daytona Beach. We went body surfing and my brother nearly drowned. It was a fun vacation.
          This example is very normal writing style. Those bible scholars you are referring to seem to be working hard to discredit the bible.

          • This style 10/6

            Bible scholars work to find out how the bible was written not to discredit it.

            It is quite certain that the bible is composed of stories from many different sources.

          • cadcoke5

            No one disputes there were multiple hands writing these accounts over time. From some of your other postings here, I see that you are generally of the opinion that the scripture is not necessarily from God. I.e. not true.

            The “two accounts” is one of the common assertions that those who reject the truth of scripture commonly make. But, it is such an easy one to counter, and so lacking in its foundation, that I suspect the scholars aren’t motivated by a search for the truth.

          • This style 10/6

            It is only easy to counter for those who are committed to biblical literalism and close their eyes to any criticism. Criticism based on solid research into the period, in many fields.

            The bible was written by men.No god involved.

          • cadcoke5

            Do you still consider the 2nd creation story criticism to be based on solid research into the period?

          • This style 10/6

            Yes.

    • Grace Kim Kwon

      The Holy Bible never contradicts. Secular Westerners hate the Holy Bible because the Holy Bible is moral and secular West is immoral. Holiness vs. Sodom.

      • TheKingOfRhye

        How are the two different creation accounts in Genesis not contradictory of each other?

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          Chapter 1 is an overall picture. Chapter 2 is zoomed details. The Holy Bible’s literary device is beyond everything excellent.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            That still doesn’t tell me why the two accounts clearly have events happening in a different order.

            What’s even a better question, though, is why they both contradict known science.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Get a study Boble. There is no different order or contradiction with known science in the Holy Bible. Scientific theories change all the time. Don’t jump into a false conclusion. What is your question and problem?

          • TheKingOfRhye

            There are huge contradictions of known science, just in the first chapter of Genesis alone. The order of creation is completely wrong.

            And yeah, scientific theories change all the time, when new data is found. That’s a GOOD thing, that’s the way science works.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are wrong. The creation order is right. God created a finished universe. Scientific theories change all the time and come to the conclusion that the Holy Bible is right each time. It’s the special Book given to mankind. Planet Earth is tiny, but Israel is located here alone and Jesus Christ came to us. Read Genesis 1, Colossians 1, and John 1 together. The eternal beginning is recorded in the middle of the Book as many good books are that way.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Again, no. It’s established, long established science that the Earth was formed after the sun and other stars, for one thing.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Think about the formation of matters and natural laws in the physical world and the creation of life recorded in Earth’s view. Don’t jump into conclusions. Mankind did not know that the sun was racing around the Milky Way Galaxy when they found out that Earth rotates around the sun. The sun and the moon and the stars still serve the Planet Earth’s well-being. And who are the main character on Earth? Israel. Read Jeremiah chapter 33.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            None of that even addresses anything I said. Or if it does I don’t understand what you’re getting at.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You could think that the sun and other stars started appearing in the skies after the plant life appeared on the planetary surface for now, if it’s too hard for you to see that Planet Earth is the primary thing in the universe. Just don’t give up and read the Holy Bible and go to church on Sunday to hear the Word of God. Repent of your sin and trust in Jesus to get saved. Atheists stay as atheist by refusing to think deeply.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            No, I’m not going to think the stars were formed after Earth because in reality, it was the other way around. That’s the exact kind of thing I was talking about.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Yes, so you could think that it was recorded by appearances. I believe God created Planet Earth’s system – the orbiting stars and planets’ relationships – first.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            “It is truly wondrous what we are seeing in the skies, in the seas and in the land and what are placed in the universe.”

            I agree, and one doesn’t have to believe in a god to think so.

            “There aren’t any proto-galaxies.”

            And what reason do you have for believing that?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            What God said in His Word is true and is far more convincing. Proto-galaxies are not discovered and never will because there’s none. It’s a finished universe like Adam’s body. TKOR, atheists have no model to explain away the universe and life. Everything happened by explosions in their world, but our observed reality indicates explosions only create chaos, not order. Universe is full of orders and laws and details and not chaos or meaninglessness. Think in the fundamental level. The Holy Bible, the only Manual from the Creator God, indeed contains something hard to understand which kept proven to be true by latter discoveries.

            Who imagined our sun had a tent? But indeed it does and it’s protecting the entire solar system! I trust in God rather than atheists. If atheists had anything right, they’d humbly confess they don’t know. They insist God out of picture; that alone compels a person to read and trust the Holy Bible. The Word of God is deeper than the universe anyway. Every honest and upright person admits that God is and He is right.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            “atheists have no model to explain away the universe and life.”

            I don’t pretend to have all the answers, but theists have no more answers than I have. Saying “God is the answer” doesn’t answer anything, then you have to explain God.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Your god and atheists’ god is nothingness and time. God even created them both. God alone is self-existent. The Hebrews got everything from the ancient time. Read Isaiah ch. 40-45. This world was designed and created by God. I’m waiting for AI to be developed more and to scold the atheists for upholding lies deliberately for all these years. Science and math point towards the existence of the Creator God.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            “He(Jesus Christ) is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through Him and for Him. And He is before all things, and in Him all things consist. And He is the head of the body, the church, who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead, that in all things He may have the preeminence.” (Colossians chapter 1)

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Don’t use the Bible to prove the Bible.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Why not? How do you prove yourself?

          • TheKingOfRhye

            “Why do you secular Westerners don’t give the Holy Bible the same rights you give to others?”

            The Bible is a book. Books don’t have rights, people do.

            “Morally chaotic Ex-christian Sodomic Westerners hate the Holy Bible
            alone and accept all other things; therefore the Holy Bible alone is
            true and pure and all correct.”

            First of all, not true….I don’t (since I’m assuming you’d count me as one of those “morally chaotic etc”) hate the Bible, I just don’t believe it. I most certainly don’t “accept all other things.” Even if that was true, it doesn’t prove anything.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            No, I mean you favor all other books and humans but not the Holy Bible. All secular Westerners are that way; it proves the Holy Bible is really speacial and absolutely right. You are lying. You hate the Holy Bible because you can’t stand the truth. You don’t want to fix your mess in your life or find the cure; that’s the only reason you reject the Holy Bible.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            The mess in my life? Excuse me, you don’t know a darn thing about my life.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You don’t believe in God and hate the one true living God. That’s the fundamental mess in atheists. Read Psalm 14. You need salvation from your own unbelief which is a deadly falsehood and brings eternal damnation and justice. All honest and humble humans believe in God.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            That’s the one thing a lot of Christians say about atheists, that I will never understand……”hate God”???? How could I hate something that (as you said yourself) I don’t believe in?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Atheists blaspheme God and and attack Christians for believing and following Him. You cannot hurt the Almighty God and angels so you harm God’s people. Bullying and malice is in atheists’ vein. Atheists are actually very foolish, living a pathetic life. Read Psalm 14. Ask yourself fundamental questions and read Romans chapter 1-8.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Atheists blaspheme God and and attack Christians for believing and
            following Him. Atheists hate God because He does not act as atheists
            want Him to but commands them to do what is right. You cannot hurt the
            Almighty God and angels so you harm God’s people on earth, following
            demons’ patterns. Revelation chapter 12. Bullying and malice is in
            atheists’ veins. Atheists are actually very foolish, living a pathetic
            life. Psalm 14. Ask yourself fundamental questions on your life and read Romans chapter 1-8. TKOR, choose life by repentance and faith.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Again, I don’t hate something I don’t believe in. I don’t know how to make that any clearer.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Then why do you come to Christian sites to insult Christians? You need to believe in God to get saved. Read His Word to find out the truth, as all honest humans would. Be serious about your life.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I don’t think what I do here is insulting, or at least I don’t try to be, unless merely having an opposing viewpoint is insulting in and of itself. And should you really be accusing people of being insulting, after all the things you’ve called me (and just atheists in general) recently?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You insulted the use of the Holy Bible and used d-words. I’ve never met any atheists who use clean language. What I called atheists is a fact. They kill Christians and babies in communist nations and kill babies everywhere else. You Americans are naive on atheism’s reign because you never suffered the brutal abuse and have survived to be out of the mother’s womb. You must cease to be atheist to be good. Atheists are bad. Romans 8.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            D-words? What ‘d-words’ have I used? Darn? Don’t? Deoxyribonucleic? (Okay, I never used that last one…ha) What on earth are you talking about? Do you have me confused with someone else?

            You say you haven’t met any atheists who use clean language….but tell me one time I have used obscene language in talking to you. (Somehow I doubt that you really have met many atheists at all, anyway. You don’t even seem to understand what one IS, in the first place.)

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Read your own comments here, the second d-word on your list. American atheists attack me in Christian websites and their language is always filthy – all of them. Why don’t you guys take your parents’ teachings on anything? You are living in such a culture but what is wrong is wrong. No culture can be excuse in doing wrong, no matter how powerful the USA is. Please read the Word of God and wake up. I John chapter 1-5 are recommended.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Really? I honestly didn’t think anyone considered “darn” as a swear word. I could have said a lot worse. For that matter, I see even Christians here using worse language. I moderate my language here for the very reason that it is a Christian site.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            It’s originally from the word “damn,” and it is bad. Don’t use the d-words and don’t use anything worse. Those Christians are not educated well. I used to use bad words until I was pointed out by good Christians. Since then, I look up the original meanings of words and select. Education helps. You must moderate your language everywhere. You are a sinner who needs God’s salvation. Admit that. Secular American atheists live in sins and breathe in sins and drink in sins they have no clue. Please read the Holy Bible and listen to the Christians to get a life. Christians are the only people who love you and care for you.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            That wasn’t half bad, for you, until I got to the last sentence. Are you saying non-Christians are not capable of love?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            TKOR, true love is God’s love. All humans are capable of having warm affections towards anyone and of keeping the committment to certain extent, but the love of God alone truly forgives and loves all unconditionally. True Christians are the only ones who know the love of Jesus and carry it out, no matter what flaws there are. Christians are the only people who try to benefit you for all eternity to the end unconditionally. All others including your own family members let you go in sinning; they do not know how to save you though they love you. Praying for you. I pray that you will meet Jesus and get saved and become truly blessed; that is my only wish.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            “God demonstrates His own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.” (Romans 5:8)
            “Christ’s love compels us, because we are convinced that One died for all, and therefore all died. And He died for all, that those who live should no longer live for themselves but for Him who died for them and was raised again.” ( II Corinthians chapter 5)

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Quoting from a book I already told you I don’t believe…..do you actually think that’s going to work?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You should believe in God. The Holy Bible is God’s Book and the life-saving Book. Please read it and repent of your sin and trust in Jesus to get saved. Why are you in a Christian news site if you have determined not to believe? You must seek the truth for lifetime. Atheists need Christians, but Christians do not need atheism.

  • Thomas_Adam_Lewis

    “Biblical authority is the primary focus of the film, he said.”

    Exactly as admitted, and as is the case with all creationists, there is no science going on. It’s a bunch of sticking their fingers in their ears and screeching “Genesis is literally, really, really, truthfully true!” Repeat ad nauseum.

    Science looks at the evidence. Period. If Genesis were true that could be arrived at independently from the Bible. If you “start with the Bible” you aren’t doing science. One could just as easily start with the sincere but mistaken belief that The Silmarillion were literally true and then shoehorn facts, deny facts, mangle theory, and distort reason to support that belief. Professional creationists do this for a living. Alas, the evidence shows us that we don’t live in the geocentric, anthropocentric universe of the Bible. Creationists don’t like this and so we get their obstreperously erroneous pseudoscience in response.

    • Amos Moses

      ” there is no science going on. It’s a bunch of sticking their fingers in their ears and screeching “Genesis is literally, really, really, truthfully true!” Repeat ad nauseum.”

      and no evidence in your comment ….. scripture is the truth …. they use it as the guide to find the truth to see if what they see conforms to what scripture says ….. and it does …..

      the evidence is not in question …… it is the observer who sees it …. that is where the problem with so called science gets it wrong …..

      • Capt Stormfield

        “…and no evidence in your comment…” That you expect 300 years of science to be distilled into an internet comment, and delivered in a manner understandable to someone incapable of composing a complete sentence, is telling. Those of us who have troubled ourselves to gain an education will continue to move past you. Do please carry on waving your arms at the electronic street corner, I won’t be there to hear.

        • Amos Moses

          you think your “300 years of science” makes you somehow better than your ancestors ….. and yet they had science …. and could do things modern man has yet to figure out how they did it …….. all you have is anachronistic arrogance and chronological snobbery ….. Where we happen to think that we is the smartest generation to ever be since the foundation of the everything and there aint been nobody who has ever been smarter than us ….. you aint ……

          • Thomas_Adam_Lewis

            “we is the smartest generation”

            Obviously not.

          • Amos Moses

            yep … that wins it …. BTW, that was you saying that ….. “cause you be the smartest” …….

      • Thomas_Adam_Lewis

        Amos,

        Complete sentences, capitalization, punctuation, and coherence are normally used when communicating in English.

        “the evidence is not in question …… it is the observer who sees it”

        No, the evidence of a 90 degree angle cannot be interpreted as consistent with a circle. Likewise, the evidence for evolution, an old universe, geology, and all the other branches of knowledge that creationists reject are not rationally interpretable as consistent with a literal Genesis.

        It’s hilarious that creationists will decry all forms of relativism in one breath and then adopt this naive form of epistemic relativism the next when they have to shield their demonstrably false beliefs from criticism.

        • Amos Moses

          so objection to form ….. blah, blah, woof, woof ………… and yawn, yawn ……….

          “Likewise, the evidence for evolution, an old universe, geology, and all the other branches of knowledge that creationists reject are not rationally interpretable as consistent with a literal Genesis.”

          Nope …. we do not reject the evidence … we reject YOUR INTERPRETATION of the evidence ….. it is in ERROR ………….. you exclude part of the evidence …. you exclude God from the evidence …. and thus that creates your ERROR …………

          “their demonstrably false beliefs”

          is that a scientific, theological or personal opinion ………….. because you cannot demonstrate any bit of what you just said …………

          • Thomas_Adam_Lewis

            Amos,

            If you ever get around to studying for your GED, you’ll find out pretty quick how wrong you are on just about everything.

            However, I don’t have high hopes for you on the English portion.

            “you exclude God from the evidence”

            Ah yes, and the evidence for Zeus is “excluded” from meteorology. Poseidon is “excluded” from tidal calculations. And, likewise, Yahweh is “excluded” from biology.

            ” we reject YOUR INTERPRETATION of the evidence ”

            The previous point that I made that obviously sailed 10,000 feet over your head is that evidence has a range of rational interpretations. The evidence for the measurement of the Golden Gate Bridge is not rationally interpretable as 2 inches. Yet such absurd “interpretations” are what creationists would have us accept so that they can preserve their parochial and questionable exegesis of Genesis.

          • Amos Moses

            already got a GED …. and college … in a science field …. did just fine …. thank you very much ……….

            “evidence has a range of rational interpretations.””The evidence for the measurement of the Golden Gate Bridge is not rationally interpretable as 2 inches”

            yep …. and to say that everything came from an explosion oh so many, many, many years ago …… Not Rational …. and no evidence to support it ….. and you were just an accident of nondescript proteins somehow “organizing” themselves to one day be you ….. that is irrational ……….. and to say “the Golden Gate Bridge” somehow self-assembled without any creative intelligence behind it is also just as irrational …… but you don’t say that …… but you say YOU, who is far, far, far, far more intricate and complicated had no intelligence behind it …… THAT IS IRRATIONAL …..

            psuedo-science is all completely irrational …… and that is all you have ….. psuedo-science ……

          • Thomas_Adam_Lewis

            “everything came from an explosion oh so many, many, many years ago …… Not Rational …. ”

            The fact that you call the Big Bang an “explosion” shows you haven’t the slightest clue what you are talking about.

            “and no evidence to support it ”

            Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation.
            Red-shifted galaxies.

            But you probably don’t even know what these things are. So you’ll just do what I said in the OP and stick your fingers in your ears and screech: “Genesis is true! So really, really true!” And so we have come full circle.

          • Amos Moses

            “the Big Bang an “explosion””

            the fact that you call the “big bang” NOT an explosion …. (this even sounds ridiculous as i try to type it and hold back the laughter) ….. irrational …. ok …. newtonian mechanics …. in order for an event of the magnitude of the “big bang” to occur ….. there must be an equal or greater cause for it to occur ….. what was it ….

            “Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation.
            Red-shifted galaxies.”

            which can be explained as being caused by other things ….. but you still have to give the initiating event that caused it ….. what is it ….. things do not just go whizzing off in a certain direction without a proximate initiating cause ….. and no … “we do not know” is not an adequate answer …..

          • Thomas_Adam_Lewis

            Your laughter is akin to elementary children laughing at algebra saying “you can’t add letters! Ha ha!”

            I.e. their amusement is a direct result of their ignorance. Your reaction above is exactly the same.

            It’s obvious that you’ve never even cracked a science book since your B.S. degree in education or some tangentially connected field and have since only consumed the pseudoscience of creationist websites. Look up the Dunning-Kruger effect to learn something about yourself.

          • Amos Moses

            so just ad hominem ……. invective ….. epithet ….. and no real answers …….. thnx …….

          • Thomas_Adam_Lewis

            Wow, you can’t even get ad hominem right.

            Here’s some free education: the ad hominem fallacy is not simply a label you find objectionable as you seem to think.

            It is the specific reasoning in: “Person x has y quality, therefore his arguments are false.”

            You should really consider the wisdom of the saying “Better to remain silent than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”

          • Sharon_at_home

            It’s not complete evidence; it’s a theory. No one has been able to start with nothing and show evolution with it. All “evidence” starts with something. God started with nothing so scientists cannot find how to complete the whole path. They would need to begin with nothing and they can’t.

          • Thomas_Adam_Lewis

            Sharon,

            A theory in science is not the mere conjecture of your lay lexicon; it is the well-supported explanatory framework that fits the facts. We speak of the germ theory of disease and the theory of gravity.

            Your argument that we would basically have to have a videotape of past events to confirm past events is a naive one, at best. On your argument, no crime not caught on camera should bring a conviction.

            On your argument, walking in a plowed field would leave us equally entertaining that it had been plowed or had been the site of thousands of fairy crash landings.

            On your argument, just because we know that the sun is powered by nuclear fusion now, doesn’t mean that it wasn’t powered by burning coal in the past.

            Furthermore, we do not even have to have “historical” evidence to show beyond a shadow of (informed and rational) doubt that evolution is a fact. That evolution happened and is happening now is demonstrated by the geographic distribution of species, the genetic inter-relatedness of species, etc, etc, etc to those willing to understand the world around them on the back of evidence rather than on the back of naive intuition and received tradition.

      • TheKingOfRhye

        “and no evidence in your comment”

        You provide the evidence for what Thomas was saying yourself in that very comment. You said yourself, you operate first on the assumption that the Bible is true, in other words “scripture is the guide.”

    • Robert

      Why not go to lutheran science institute on the web .There Lutherans will tell you right out your scientists are wrong and the Bible is right. They even have Bill Nye doing his evolutions explaining using his emojes which is even more entertaining..I know Bill Nye is trying to be serious yet I never seen any so funny . HIS Explaining with all his emojes completely murdered evolution off.his explaining had no compassion on evolution what so ever. I think Bill Nye was pleased with himself though not realizing what he had done.

      • Jason

        Lutheran science = oxymoron

        • Robert

          Evolution is pure comedy and nothin but comedy and that’s not a oxymoron.

          • Jason

            Some people may find science… comical, but I find it fascinating 🙂

  • Jason

    “Already the film has been endorsed by Answers in Genesis and the Associates for Biblical Research.” …..no one credible?

    Science does not start with claims. It starts with observations and the truth is the Bible is all stories. It’s as easy as that.

    It’s like a 40-year-old believing in Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, and the easter bunny…. after witnessing his parents place the gifts, money, and eggs. Funny and sad at the same time.

    • Amos Moses

      except “Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, and the easter bunny” have no evidence ….. the biblical account does ……..

      • Jason

        There is evidence for Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, and the easter bunny. No presents/money/eggs, go to sleep, then presents/money/eggs. It’s not good evidence and easily debunked, but to a naive child (and in my example, the 40-year-old dude) that’s all the evidence they need. Well, that and the fairy tails to go along with it 🙂 kids can’t believe the myth if they never hear the stories.

  • Karl Goldsmith

    For one night only we can scam the rubes.

  • tallgrass05

    Pablum for the people who cannot think for themselves.

  • Jason

    “establishes irrefutable, independent evidence for the truth of the early chapters of Genesis” …Doubtful.

    “Ancient Greek religious art does not portray “myth” as the “progressive” atheist academics say.” Genesis is a myth by definition.

    Myth – a traditional story, especially one concerning the early history of people or explaining some natural or social phenomenon, and typically involving supernatural beings or events.

  • This style 10/6

    Ooh! A full color book. Must be true!

  • http://www.TrustChristOrGoToHell.org VINDICATOR

    Of course Genesis is truth & history.

    Too bad the main image is a CGI PAINTING of a “globe”.

    #FLATearth is #Bible KJV FTW!

  • George O’Donnell

    “Every field of science has changed many times through history, and will continue to do so”

    That change is called improvement and it’s a good thing. Old science isn’t “wrong”. Newtons laws of motion are still used to solve science and engineering problems today. The problem with Newtons laws is they didn’t seem to work at near light speeds. The theory of relativity that ultimately replaced newtons laws could explain motion at near light speeds, but at normal everyday speeds these equations simplify to look exactly like Newtons equations. Relativity was more robust than Newtons theory, but that doesn’t invalidate the usefulness of Newtons model.

  • Jason

    Does Genesis include stories about early history of people and the creation of everything? By definition… myth.