Trump Calls Meeting With ‘His Holiness Pope Francis’ an ‘Honor of a Lifetime’

ROME — President Trump tweeted on Wednesday following his meeting with Roman Catholic leader Jorge Bergoglio, also known as “Pope Francis,” that his audience before “his holiness” was “an honor of a lifetime.”

“Honor of a lifetime to meet His Holiness Pope Francis. I leave the Vatican more determined than ever to pursue PEACE in our world,” Trump wrote, generating over 97,000 likes.

He also changed his Twitter banner to feature a photograph of himself sitting across from Bergoglio during the 30-minute meeting.

“The pope and the president discussed how religious communities can combat human suffering in crisis regions, such as Syria, Libya, and ISIS-controlled territory,” the White House explained in a press release. “The president affirmed that the United States and the Holy See share many fundamental values and seek to engage globally to promote human rights, combat human suffering, and protect religious freedom.”

The two later exchanged gifts as Trump gave Bergoglio a set of books by Martin Luther King, Jr., a piece of granite from the King memorial in the nation’s capital, and a sculpture that represented “hope for a peaceful tomorrow.”

Bergoglio gifted Trump with a medallion bearing the image of an olive branch, explaining, “I give this to you so that you can be an instrument of peace.”

“We can use peace,” Trump replied.

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The Roman Catholic leader also gave the president copies of three of his essays, including his 192-page encyclical “Laudato Si’: On Care for Our Common Home,” which elaborates his climate change concerns. According to CNN, Bergoglio also “blessed a rosary,” which he gave to First Lady Melania Trump, who wore a black veil to the occasion.

“He is something,” Trump remarked of the visit. “We had a fantastic meeting. We’re liking Italy very, very much and it was an honor to be with the pope.”

The Vatican likewise released a statement about the meeting, expressing hopes “that there may be serene collaboration between the state and the Catholic Church in the United States, engaged in service to the people in the fields of healthcare, education and assistance to immigrants.”

As previously reported, in February 2016, Trump expressed offense when Bergoglio suggested that he was not a Christian because of his desire to build a border wall to keep out illegal immigrants.

“[A] person who only thinks about making walls, wherever it may be, and not building bridges, is not Christian,” the pontiff stated during a flight back to Rome from Mexico. “This is not the gospel.”

When asked if he would influence Roman Catholics during the election, Bergoglio stated that he did not wish “to get into that,” but repeated his statement with the notation that he wished to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

“I say only that this man is not Christian if he has said things like that,” he said. “We must see if he said things in that way and in this I give the benefit of the doubt.”

Trump quickly shot back, calling Bergoglio’s remarks “disgraceful.”

“No leader, especially a religious leader, should have the right to question another man’s religion or faith,” he said at a campaign rally. “If and when the Vatican is attacked by ISIS, which as everyone knows is ISIS’s ultimate trophy, I can promise you that the Pope would have only wished and prayed that Donald Trump would have been president.”

“I’m proud to be a Christian, and as president I will not allow Christianity to be consistently attacked and weakened, unlike what is happening now with our current president,” Trump added.

He later stated that he felt Bergoglio’s comments had been inflated by the media, advising that he did not wish to fight with the Roman Catholic leader because he’s “a wonderful guy” and “I have a lot of respect for the pope.”


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  • TheLastHonestLawyer

    Trump refused to put Sean Spicer, a devout Catholic, on the list for the visit with the Pope. I cannot think of a more tiny, vindictive human being living today.

    • Amos Moses

      “I cannot think of a more tiny, vindictive human being living today.”

      i can think of a number of them …….

    • BuckeyePhysicist

      Bad argument. Press secretaries don’t go on foreign trips. Why didn’t you make the argument about Steve Bannon or Kellyanne Conway? Donald Trump has an entire White House full of Catholic Christians. Even Reince Priebus is Orthodox.

      • TheLastHonestLawyer

        Sorry for the delay in reply, I was away for the holiday weekend.

        Spicer was on the trip. Look it up. So it was a deliberate slap in the face of a loyal employee that this tiny little man-child currently dislikes.

  • kenster777

    Definition of a Pope, Blind leader of the Blind, False Prophet
    There is no Person in the Bible except for God who is infallible.
    The only reason I would meet him is to tell him to repent of his false religion
    Whoa when men speak highly and exalt you
    The office of Pope is equivalent to Caiaphas the High Priest who Crucified Jesus
    And Maybe the one who is the future leader of the new one world religion

    • RWH

      And I’m sure that the Pope is clutching his pectoral cross in horror that you don’t approve of him.

      • Oboehner

        Is that what that was?

  • Bacchus

    Not sure the pope is even a Christian. He’s basically a socialist.

    • Parodyx

      He is the top Christian.

      • Amos Moses

        Nope …. the only “top christian” …. is Christ ……… the rest are just His sheep ………

        • Parodyx

          Christ is not a Christian. The Christians are the ones who follow him. And the pope is the church leader of 1 billion Christians.

          • Amos Moses

            Yeah … He is …. He is the only leader of His church ….. so by default …. a christian …..

            i am still unable to find an office of “pope” in scripture ………..

          • Parodyx

            Christ is not a Christian in the same sense that Buddha is not a Buddhist and Satan is not a Satanist. The suffix of the word indicates you are an adherent or follower.

          • Amos Moses

            “Buddha is not a Buddhist and Satan is not a Satanist. ”

            right …. because they are both lies ….. and liars …… Christ is not a liar ……… pair of dyx …

          • Parodyx

            The logic doesn’t magically not apply just because it’s your religion of choice. This is why you can’t remove yourself from the No True Scotsman fallacy as well.

          • Amos Moses

            “The logic doesn’t magically not apply just because it’s your religion of choice. ”

            AGAIN …. it was not my choice ………. try keeping that in mind …… it was GODS choice to pick His followers …… He is the team captain ….. He picked His team …… had not one thing to do with me …….. and NTS still does not apply ….. anymore than an employee of Burger King gets to decide what a Whopper is ….. they get to make it …. they can say what it is ….. but sorry to inform you ….. there are many hamburgers THAT ARE NOT WHOPPERS and never were and never will be …… and you cant get one at McDonalds …… and any employee of Burger King can tell if it is or if it is not …….. even you can tell …..

          • Parodyx

            So God picked the people who followed the RIGHT denomination?
            Allah didn’t do the same thing?

          • Amos Moses

            NO ….. God picked the ELECT …. and they are called the ELECT for a reason …. because He ELECTED them ………has not one thing to do with any denomination …….. has to do with scripture and how salvation works …. and Allah has never claimed to have saved anyone …… or show me the Surrah where he did ….

          • Parodyx

            So the whole human race is a lottery, and if God picks you you’re one of the elect, lucky ones?

          • Amos Moses

            Nope ….. they were picked before the foundation of the world was laid ……… before time began ….. before Genesis 1:1 ………… before any “denomination” …….

          • Parodyx

            And you just managed to be lucky enough to be one of the chosen ones?

          • TheKingOfRhye

            So, you’re saying God picked his ‘elect’ before he even created them. I don’t quite understand that. If God hadn’t created anyone yet, what would there have been to pick from?

            And isn’t the phrase “before time began” non-sensical? If time had a beginning, how could there be anything before that? If there’s no time, there is no such thing as “before.”

          • Amos Moses

            “I don’t quite understand that.”

            of course you do not ….. but all your accusations are based on a thing you do not understand …..

            “If God hadn’t created anyone yet, what would there have been to pick from?”

            when Michaelangelo carved a stone ….. he did not just start hacking at it …… it was ALL planned BEFORE he took a hammer and chisel to the stone ….. how is that so hard to understand ……….

            “And isn’t the phrase “before time began” non-sensical?”

            time is a created thing …. even science says so ….. even HAWKING says it is ….. but you come here with all your acclamations of science ….. and you do not know this ….. and scripture even tells us this ….. “In the beginning” ….. that was the first event …. the creation of time ………….

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I’m just trying to get this straight here. You’re saying before God created the universe or anything else (life, the universe, and everything!), he had it all planned out which of the people he was going to create in the future would be saved and which would be damned to hell, or however you want to say it? What’s the point of that, then? What’s the point of God creating people who have no choice but to burn in hell no matter what they do?

            And if that’s all true, what’s the point in any Christian protesting “sinners” or the things they do? Because it’s all part of God’s plan, right?

            I take it you’re not much of a believer in free will, eh?

            And okay, the beginning of time was the first event. Fine. That’s kinda what I was trying to say. (whether it was created or not – do you actually have a quote of Hawking saying that, by the way?) I just don’t see how anything can be “before” the beginning of time. Nothing you said addressed that.

          • Amos Moses

            the point is to demonstrate that He is God ….. it is His justice that is just ….. all were given a fair treatment but all were not given equal treatment ….. even the ones condemned to hell were never going to choose Him in any event ….. as they were given a free will choice to choose Him ….. and they did not …. and so deserve hell …..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            That doesn’t seem to follow what you were saying before, though. How can people be destined to be “saved” or not, but at same time, still have a choice in the matter? If some people are condemned to hell before their existence even begins, they don’t have a choice. And why does God pick certain future non-existent people, “before time began” supposedly, (whatever that means) to be damned to hell?

            I’m not really arguing this, or trying to convince you you’re wrong, I just honestly don’t understand how this is all supposed to work.

          • Amos Moses

            God is not fair …. He is just ….. the elect have very limited free choice after they are saved ……. the ones who are predestined to hell actually have more free choice ….. but because God does not intervene, does not interfere with their free choice ….. they follow the intents of their hearts …… which has no limit on how wicked they will become ………. nor is there any end to their wickedness ….. and they prefer the wickedness …………. so they choose that …. and it is a free will choice …..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            “Limited free choice” is an oxymoron. Are you saying that someone who is “predestined” to hell can make a choice to be saved? If so , they’re not predestined. If not, they don’t have a choice. You can’t have it both ways.

          • Amos Moses

            no it is not …. we are free to choose certain things … we are not free to choose openly sinful acts …………

            ” Are you saying that someone who is “predestined” to hell can make a choice to be saved?”

            they can …. they never will …….. they are not prevented from choosing it ….. they follow their hearts which are wicked …….. and until God intervenes, intercedes, interferes they will continue to make the free choice of wickedness …….. and so are responsible for their acts ………….. and it is not me “having it both ways” ….. it is Gods creation, He is sovereign and He does what He wants …………

          • TheKingOfRhye

            “they can …. they never will”

            So, they can’t. It is something they unable to do. If someone is only able to make one choice, it’s not a choice.

            ” ….. they follow their hearts which are wicked”

            But you’re saying God created them that way, right?

          • Amos Moses

            they are not capable ….. none of us are capable ….. not even the elect …. until god intervenes ……….. they cant because they value their “free will” more than God ….. and that is idolatry …….. God created Adam and Eve and they were in a perfect state ….. but were deceived into thinking they could be as God …… and the judgment on them is the judgment on us all …… we inherited their corrupted DNA …… and God knew this would happen ….. so He had to have a remedy ….. God foreknew all that He would select and those that would be destroyed ….. those He would select were the ones who would be loyal …… the ones for destruction would not ….. but He gave both a limited free will …. and it is a limited free will ….. we have no free will to be faster than a speeding bullet, more powerful than a locomotive, able to leap tall buildings at a single bound …… we are limited to the free will that God has allowed ………..

          • Bob Johnson

            But He had foreknowledge that they would be deceived. And that at some point He would have to destroy His entire creation in a great flood. And now this wickedness continues. This isn’t saying much for an all powerful all knowing God.

          • Amos Moses

            yeah ….. this is saying He had a plan from the beginning ….. there is no plan “B” …… and He is still God ….. and it was not His entire creation ….. THE ELECT at that time were saved ….. and Noah preached for 120 years to those fit for destruction to repent and be saved …… they all had a free will choice …… and they chose not to listen …… so yeah …. He is all powerful ….. and they have their free will and you have yours ….. for all the good it will do you or did them ………….

          • Amos Moses

            BTW ….. God decides when and how to exercise His power …… not you ……….

          • TheKingOfRhye

            ” those He would select were the ones who would be loyal”

            But I thought you said God did all the selecting before creating anybody. “Before time began” as you said earlier. How could God select who would be loyal from people not created yet? Couldn’t he just create loyal people or disloyal people as he saw fit? (And why would he create any disloyal ones, if so?). It sounds like you’re saying people are predestined one way or the other before they’re even created, and that God can’t do anything about it.

          • Amos Moses

            yeah … and He knew who would and who would not …………

            “How could God select who would be loyal from people not created yet? ”

            those He created He foreknew ….. do you ever create something without knowing whit it is and what it will become …………

          • Amos Moses

            God is omniscient …. all knowing …..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            But God’s all-powerful or omnipotent too, right? If so, saying he’s all-knowing is redundant. If a god is all-powerful, of course he’s all-knowing; nothing happens without him causing it to.

          • Amos Moses

            “god is all-powerful, of course he’s all-knowing”

            not necessarily ……….

          • Amos Moses

            “Couldn’t he just create loyal people or disloyal people as he saw fit? (And why would he create any disloyal ones, if so?)”

            How can you know good without evil …. you would have no metric to judge either by …… we know good because we know evil ………..

          • Amos Moses

            “and that God can’t do anything about it.”

            God did it all ……..

          • Bob Johnson

            “no it is not …. we are free to choose certain things … we are not free to choose openly sinful acts …………”

            So Adam was not free to choose? So Original Sin was not Adam’s choice? Was God’s first creation flawed? An unanticipated character defect?

          • Amos Moses

            Adam was free to choose …….. Adam and Eve were not of the elect ……… and God/Christ knew it would happen before they were created ….. so they had to have a remedy ……. and it is Christ ……… the angels, created first, were the first ones to rebel as they thought they should be equal to God ….. and Adam was to judge the angels ….. that did not sit to well with many of them ………… so they sought to bring Adam down ……

          • Amos Moses

            “I just honestly don’t understand how this is all supposed to work.”

            well it has been working since the beginning …… God knew how it would all turn out before it happened ….. and He knew He would have to make a way for the elect to actually be saved in a consistent manner …. and Christ is that ………

          • Amos Moses

            do you actually have a quote of Hawking saying that”

            Hawking is an atheist ….. but this is what he said ….. hawking co uk ………

            The Beginning of Time

            In this lecture, I would like to discuss whether time itself has a beginning, and whether it will have an end. All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe has not existed forever, but that it had a beginning, about 15 billion years ago. This is probably the most remarkable discovery of modern cosmology. Yet it is now taken for granted. We are not yet certain whether the universe will have an end. When I gave a lecture in Japan, I was asked not to mention the possible re-collapse of the universe, because it might affect the stock market. However, I can re-assure anyone who is nervous about their investments that it is a bit early to sell: even if the universe does come to an end, it won’t be for at least twenty billion years. By that time, maybe the GATT trade agreement will have come into effect.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Okay. I knew that he had said things along those lines, and that is the general thought among scientists anyway, that the universe had a beginning and will likely have an end. I’m not disputing that. Notice, though, he never said anything about the universe being created, or time being created, like you said he did. Even if you take what he said to mean that, it doesn’t say anything about who or what created anything.

          • Amos Moses

            “Notice, though, he never said anything about the universe being created, or time being created”

            of course not ….. hawking is an atheist ……… does not alter what happened ….. nor is hawking right about his perception of God …… but he did manage to stumble into the truth …… but just a bit ………

    • Tangent002

      Jesus was a socialist.

    • TheKingOfRhye

      Why can’t someone be both of those things?

  • Oboehner

    And wearing the black suit of papal butt-kissing…

    • Grace Kim Kwon

      No b-word, please.

      • Oboehner

        Posterior?

    • Parodyx

      Yeah, I’m sure he had that in mind when he dressed that morning.

      • Oboehner

        Yup, it’s well known.

        • Parodyx

          Trollin’, trollin’, trollin’.

          • Oboehner

            Guess you’re not in the know then.

          • Parodyx

            Guessing you’re not, either.

          • Oboehner

            Do a little research, I have.

          • Parodyx

            Have you, now? And yet you won’t open a single book out of millions about evolution? Forgive me for suggesting your “research” was more than a little biased.

          • Oboehner

            I have opened many books on evolution and found only assumption, speculation, and just plain old religious belief. Sadly no proof, have any?

          • Parodyx

            That’s interesting because there is no religious belief to be found in any of those books, only facts. Is there a particular reason you’ve chosen to disbelieve them? Kindly spare me the “there is no proof” crap, please, because there is – this is scientific fact after all.

          • Oboehner

            Because there is… hmm.. Post some of spare me the fairytale nonsense.

          • Parodyx

            You know precisely where it can be found. Perfectly respectable libraries, museums and universities, all of which I assume you can visit. Or if that’s too much trouble, why not visit your child’s science classroom where evolution is taught as fact?

          • Oboehner

            Looked, no proof there. Instead of relying on your blind faith, post some proof.

          • Parodyx

            It is proof. What you are experiencing is called denial.

          • Oboehner

            What is proof? Blind faith? Hardly.

          • Parodyx

            No, proof is proof. Lack of proof is blind faith. Denial of proof is just pathetic.

          • Oboehner

            “Lack of proof is blind faith” Exactly what you have. Denial of something that doesn’t exist – sanity.

          • Parodyx

            Even if 99.9% of the world is wrong, all you have is faith yourself. So everything you write still smacks of BS because it’s all religion. Without a shred of proof. Everything is “goddidit”.

            Good thing I know 99.9% of the world isn’t wrong.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    It was nice President’s wife and daughter wore head-coverings in meeting with Pope. Women’s head-coverings are a sign of respect.

  • Reason2012

    Acts 8.36-37 “And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest [be baptized]. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.”

    Matthew 23.9 “And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”

    Ephesians 2.8-10 “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.”

    Exodus 20.4 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven [carved] image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:”

    1 Timothy 2.5 “For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;”

    Luke 1.46-47 “And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.”

    Hebrews 7.27 “Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people’s: for this he [Jesus] did once, when he offered up himself.”

    Hebrews 10.10 “By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.”

    • BuckeyePhysicist

      Your ability to cut and paste is well noted.

      I have news for you: The majority of Christians in the world are either Catholic or Orthodox.

  • Trump took on the system and lost. Now he’s yet another oily manwhore committing spiritual adultery with the Romish antichrist. Sad.

    • Parodyx

      “Romish antichrist”. Right.

    • Tangent002

      Trump committed actual adultery. Twice.

  • Becky

    “The president affirmed that the United States and the Holy See share many fundamental values and seek to engage globally to promote human rights, combat human suffering, and protect religious freedom.”

    The Vatican has greater plans than what was mentioned…

    Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns,and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name. Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority. And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast…He was granted power to give breath to the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak and cause as many as would not worship the image of the beast to be killed. He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666.
    Revelation 13:1-3, 15-17

    Then a third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, “If anyone worships the beast and his image, and receives his mark on his forehead or on his hand, he himself shall also drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out full strength into the cup of His indignation. He shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels and in the presence of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment ascends forever and ever; and they have no rest day or night, who worship the beast and his image, and whoever receives the mark of his name.” Here is the patience of the saints; here are those who keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.
    Revelation 14:9-12