Bermuda Becomes First Country in the World to Repeal Same-Sex ‘Marriage’

(The Christian Institute) Bermuda has become the first country in the world to repeal same-sex marriage.

The British Overseas Territory legalized same-sex “marriage” through a Supreme Court ruling in May last year. It ignored the result of a 2016 referendum where voters overwhelmingly rejected its introduction.

However, after a change in government, the British-appointed governor John Rankin has now signed into law a bill to restore the traditional definition of marriage.

Rankin said he gave his assent “after careful consideration in line with my responsibilities under the constitution.”

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  • Nidalap

    Saying “gay marriage” is like saying tofu turkey.
    Just a pale fake simulacrum of the real thing…

    • TheKingOfRhye

      In what way other than the gender of the people involved is it different?

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        in what way is this grape Popsicle different from that grape Popsicle …. FYI …. there is no need for a grape Popsicle to need another grape Popsicle …. it is a null set ….. 0+0=0 …………. “In what way other than the gender” …… two of the same does not make a marriage ….

        • TheKingOfRhye

          there is no need for a grape Popsicle to need another grape Popsicle

          Popsicles are often sold in packages of one flavor, and sometimes they have that thing where it’s two popsicles with two sticks, joined together. Which, now that I think about it, actually sounds like a good analogy for a same-sex marriage. At the very least, you should try to come up with better analogies, since you’re kinda shooting yourself in the foot with that one, I think.

          it is a null set ….. 0+0=0

          1 grape popsicle + 1 grape popsicle = 2 grape popsicles.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and yet the example holds …. the does not need the other …….. and it is still a Popsicle ….

        • Amen!!

          • Sally Edwards

            Are you the same Lady Checkmate who banned me from your Disqus channel after I caught you incorrectly quoting scripture?

    • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

      I agree with you. I can not imagine taking a bite of tofu turkey.

      • TheKingOfRhye

        No one is asking you to.

        • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

          Did your master BobRumba send you to me to give me a hard time on a Christian site. When I did not make this comment to you? Tell your master I’m not playing your games of hate. Other then that, I am still praying.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I came here all by myself, and it is a public forum, so it’s not like people are only allowed to respond to comments that are directly addressed to them. If you have a counter-argument to what I said, make it. If you don’t, if you just want an echo-chamber, run on back to your friend’s channel, that’s a pretty good place for that sort of thing.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I don’t believe you. I have see the games you all play. I’m not playing.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Look, do you actually have any points, or anything to say about what I’ve said? Because if all you’re interested in is accusing me of things and talking stuff about me as if I’m not reading it….then, guess what: I’m not playing your game.

          • Enniscorthy

            Abandonment of conversation and “I will pray for you” in 5…4…3…2…

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Look into your heart. Look at what you are doing to Christians on Christian sites. Look at the plans you , BobRumba and the rest of his Klan are making against my sister in Christ and other Christians. I pray God will open your eyes and let you see. I pray God will open your ears so you can hear. I pray God will open your understanding so you will understand. I pray God will open your heart so you can receive the Truth. I pray God will deliver Christians from your hate. I pray God will deliver you from your hate. I pray you will forgive everyone who has ever hurt you.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            So, yeah, just like I thought, you’re not interested in having any sort of a conversation. I suppose I shouldn’t have expected anything else.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I’ve had enough of you and the group you are with. And what you all are doing to Christians.Good bye. Find someone else………………..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Well, the feeling is mutual.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Good. At least we are on the same page. You can tell your master that tomorrow not only will I be praying for all of his group and the Christians you all are trying to hurt . I will be fasting as well. And as for you I will no longer respond to you on this Christian site .

          • TheKingOfRhye

            You never “responded to me” anyway. That’s the problem.

          • Enniscorthy

            And she never will. She’ll just pray for you.

          • Enniscorthy

            Your “sister in Christ” is a censor and treats people in exactly the opposite way Jesus did, this is why she has the reputation she does. Are you going to tell me that’s “Christian” behavior?

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Tell your master I will be in Prayer and fasting tonight and tomorrow.
            What you all are doing is wrong. You are being worse than what you are accusing her of being. How sad that you can’t see beyond your hate. You are being added to my prayers. What you all are doing is hate. May God deliver you all from your hate before it is to late. Life is so very short to live it in hate.

          • Enniscorthy

            No one is worse than her. No one. And I have no master, and if you want to indulge in pointless prayer, knock yourself out. I sleep very well at night and I treat people with simple respect, something she could take a lesson or two about.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Not true. When people plan to hurt people that is wrong. Planning to hurt others is horrible. That what you all are doing.One day you’ll understand…………………………….

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            P.S. prayers are only pointless to people like you. People who do not believe in prayer. But I pray the God will show you something through my prayers that will show you that my prayers to God are not as pointless as you believe.

          • Enniscorthy

            I want no part of your prayers. You will no doubt insist on doing them anyway, but you do so with the mistaken idea that I’m somehow the bad guy.

            Someone pointed out to Lady C. the other day that a link she provided brought up a blank website. She told the person who said so that they were lying, and banned them. The post is still on her channel, and you can see for yourself that it DOES bring up a blank page. So someone pointed out a simple error to her, and was deleted and banned for doing so. The person did NOTHING wrong, but apparently disagreeing with Checkmate even when she’s blatantly wrong is a sin.

            And you think this is a good, Godly person you want to be on board with. You are unbelievable.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Too late my prayers for you are go to God.God sees what you and the others are doing. How you hate Christians and are trying to hurt them. I pray God will stop you and stop them. It is wrong to hurt people as you and they are trying to do. I will pray and keep praying.

          • Enniscorthy

            If God see what me and the others are doing, I can only assume he’s cheering, because there is no way He would be on board with what she does.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            God is not evil. God doses not cheer evil intentions. God dose not cheer evil motives.

          • Enniscorthy

            You keep that in mind the next time Lady Checkmate tries to state that homosexuals are trying to legalize pedophilia, or bans someone for simply disagreeing with her, or calling for the death penalty for a transgendered person.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            No you keep it in mind when you plan evil for another person. What you are doing is wrong.

          • Enniscorthy

            You have yet to explain what is so “evil” about what any of us is doing. We are speaking against bigotry and hate.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            You and the others are going to reap the evil you are sowing. What you sow you shall reap. In the end what you all are doing to her is going to backfire . And it will be you and them who who see what you wanted for will will be done to you and them.

          • Enniscorthy

            Tish tosh. We are fighting bigotry. And you, by standing by her, are defending it.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Being cruel to others makes you worse than a “bigot” When you sow cruelty that you shall reap.

          • Enniscorthy

            And being as rude as Checkmate is, deleting them and banning them, not giving them a chance to even speak a single word in their own defence, that’s not cruel? What a hypocrite you are.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            What “you” are doing is above and beyond rude. Talk about Hypocrites. Look in your mirror.Look at your life. Look at what you do to people you hate. Look at what you are doing to get others to help you to cause harm to others.

          • Enniscorthy

            We speak out against extreme Christian positions of unreasonable hatred toward homosexuals, women, transgendered people and even other Christians like Catholics whom you regularly attack. Look in the mirror, Lady. You think you’re on the side of the “good guys” but your faith is an excuse for you to judge, vilify and attack, and your tactics are as shoddy as those you blame. You are part of a “team” yourself. How dare you claim to be righteous?

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            No matter what you say or you believe. What you are sowing, you shall reap. In the end it will all backfire on you.

          • Enniscorthy

            I’m not worried. I believe in what I’m doing and sleep very well at night. If God’s listening, He’s going to have no issue with me.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Luke 6:20-26
            20 And He lifted His eyes on His disciples, and said, Blessed are ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
            21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ue shall laugh.
            22 Blessed are ye when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast your name as evil,for the Son of mans sake.
            23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
            24 But wow unto you that are rich! for ye shall receive your consolation.
            25 Woe to you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
            26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets
            ————————————————————————————.

            Right now you sleep well when you are cruel to the Christians you hate. But in the future you will reap what you have sown. At that time your sleep may not be so great.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            P.S. Unlike you, I’m not planning attacks on Christians. Unlike you I’m not planning any attcks on anyone. Unlike you I’m not planning on ways to hurt people. Unlike you I am not gathering an army of people to hurt anyone.Unlike you…………….
            But I will keep praying for God to stop you and your army in His timing not mine. I will keep praying God will protect allChristians from you and your army.

          • Enniscorthy

            I haven’t got an army. I’m like many other people (over 70,000, if Lady Checkmate’s channel subscription numbers are to be believed) who were banned on her channel for daring to post something related to “Faith and Religion” which is what it’s called, with no explanation. Tell me honestly if that’s “what Jesus would do”. A group of people got fed up with her and decided to stand up to her. Tell me why that’s bad.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            You know what I’m talking about.

          • Enniscorthy

            And you know what I’m talking about, too. If this is going to turn into a who’s-in-the-right-with-God contest, you know you are by no means holding all the cards. Not as long as you have such deceptive and dishonest people around you.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Very sad to know that some have such hate inside them as you do 🙁 Your hate has blinded you 🙁 May God open your eyes before you take your last breath.

          • Enniscorthy

            Your brand of hate is far better then, is that what you’re saying?

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            When someone like you makes plans to hurt or make to others miserable….. Its sure not “love”

          • Enniscorthy

            That isn’t what we did or are doing. And you know that.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Why lie to me? I already know your plans. And you know your plans as well. Your plans are cause harm and to hurt. To cause harm and hurt to others is a form of hate.

          • Enniscorthy

            I have no reason to lie to you. Everything I post is very public. Your group is a joke, you should be called Christians Behaving Badly. You want to censor and silence everyone who points out you evil beliefs.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Obviously you felt the need to lie to me. Or you wouldn’t have lied to me. To want to hurt someone because “YOU” feel like you’re being “censored” is very childish. “I” don’t censor anyone. “I” don’t have that kind of power. You are trying to get some kind of revenge?? You sound like a bully.

            You are a “cyber bully”. A Childish one at that. One day your childish behavior is come back and bite you. There are times men and women need to grow up.

            If you are a cyber bully and so wiling to hurt people online. What about when you’re offline. As a “bully”, what do you do then? One day you will hurt someone beyond words.

          • Enniscorthy

            I don’t want to hurt anyone, I want to prevent people like yourself and Lady C from hurting others. Just Google her name sometime if you want to see all the damage she’s done.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            That is not true.You are a cyber bully who really is trying to hurt others online.
            I have more concern right for those you may be bulling offline. Bulling offline is more dangerous. Now I will pray for Christians both online and off line to be protected from you.

          • Enniscorthy

            I stand up to the kind of bullying you do. That does not make me a bully. That makes me sensible. You turn a blind eye to every kind of evil Lady C does and say the same thing over and over. I am done with you.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I speak out against people hurting others like you and your little army are trying to. Hurting people is wrong.

          • Enniscorthy

            You are not listening to what is being said to you.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            You have lied to me. You are trying so hard to hurt her over you child behavior.

          • Enniscorthy

            I haven’t lied.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            You are doing it right now. How sad 🙁

          • Enniscorthy

            As long as you embrace censorship and the suppression of free speech, you’re not in any position to moralize.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I don’t embrace censorship. I also do not embrace revenge against people like you do. That is extremely childish and very immature. Like I told you I was censored on a Non-Christian site. It was “Raw Story” not “Red Dirt” But unlike you, I let it go.I am an adult. Why act like a bully like you do. What good does it do you to be a bully. You think hurting people makes you the big bad bully. It is going to backfire on you.
            Do you think bullying people makes you a better person. For your free speech to bully Christians makes you morally good?
            I hear you have a new Christian site to send people to bully them. In the end it is going to backfire on you. In the end, the evil you are doing to them will return to you. Hopefully double portion.

          • Enniscorthy

            Your group is far more into revenge than ours. You want to silence us, and remove our right to speak out against some of your vile ideas. We aren’t putting up with that, sorry.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            My group is God, His Son and the Holy Spirit.

            But I am using my free speech in calling you a bully because you are being a bully.
            Just like you think it is funny to make fun of people you hate. That is childish.

          • Enniscorthy

            Your group is Lady Checkmate and assorted fundamentalists who have been banned from this forum. I have seen the discussions. I am not a bully, Lady C is a bully.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            God, His Son and the Holy Spirit. But I will still declare you as a bully. You are the one trying to cause hurt and harm to others you “HATE”. Like the cyber bully that you are. You are the kind of cyber bully who goes to Christian sites looking for someone to do you online bullying to. But one day you shall reap the hate and harm you are sowing. The day is coming it all to backfire on you.

          • Enniscorthy

            You are not listening to what is being said to you.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Today’s your lucky day 🙂 I did some prayer and I believe you want the word. Most bullies do. So since today is ♥ ♥ ♥ Valentines day ♥ ♥ ♥ I will let you have the ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
            ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ “LAST WORD” ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥
            🙂 ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ 🙂

          • Enniscorthy

            You are not listening to what is being said to you.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            There he got his last word in. Even though it was a repeat of what he said I hope he feel better having the last word…….

          • Mikey Jacobs

            Who are you talking to?

          • Mikey Jacobs

            * your childish behavior

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            P.S. I got censored at the Red Dirt site and I got blocked from that site. Guess what??? I lived. Happens. Most adults get over it without trying to get a sick revenge. Most adults don’t go about trying to hurt others in a childish fit of rage. As you are doing. Your anger is going ti kill you one day. Anger and rage can cause high blood pressure. High blood pressure can kill you or cause a stoke. Some things are worse than death.

            Cry a river, build a bridge and get over it. And stop trying to hurt her.

          • Enniscorthy

            And still you continue to excuse her behavior. Amazing.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Look at your childish behavior.

          • Enniscorthy

            Look at hers, and yours.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I’m not the one trying to hurt someone. You are doing that. You need to grow up. Stop acting like a spoil child.
            I used to be a foster mom to drug addicted teens.They acted better then you are acting. They were between the ages of 14/17. And they were druggies. Some were on their way to becoming Alcoholics. I would do it again if I had a house and enough money.
            My behavior is not trying to get revenge on others. That is your choice for revenge not mine. My behavior is not trying to hurt someone like you are doing.I don’t have the stomach for it.Too bad you do. One day it will come back to you.You will reap what you are sowing. But that is your choice.

          • Enniscorthy

            You keep going on about how I’m supposedly “acting” when all your actions are exactly the same. The difference is the “gang” I am part of are merely struggling to get our voices heard without being censored, and your “gang” keeps praying that Jesus censors us into oblivion. Ask yourself whether you’re being either fair or honest. I can answer that by the way.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Because you are acting like a bully. You think being a bully makes a special someone. Being a bully does not make someone special. It is wrong to hurt others through childish revenge. What you are doing is wrong. I find it very sad. But if that is how you want to live your life hating Christians and being a big bad bully. Go for it. But the day is coming for you to reap what you are sowing.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            You do realize that prayer doesn’t actually do anything, right? I mean, there’s been studies done and everything. I just think you’re being pretty judgemental in this thread. Didn’t Jesus say something about judging others? I forget where I read it, but there’s something in your book that talks about that. Something about how only god can judge other people. Anyway, you might want to read up on that. I think there’s also something in there about praying in secret and not telling everyone you’re praying for them. I don’t know, it’s been a long time since I’ve read it. I wish you well though.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            What’s her name? I’d love to google her.

          • Enniscorthy

            Lady Checkmate.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            You’re using “quotes” wrong. You can just use ALL CAPS to emphasize something.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            So is bigotry. You could look up the definition of that if you want.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            Isn’t telling people they can’t marry who they want to marry making others miserable?

          • Mikey Jacobs

            Why doesn’t God open his eyes?

          • Mikey Jacobs

            That’s not an answer.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            You have terrible grammar.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I have poor grammar and your rude 🙂 Even though I have some of your sock puppets on my prayer list, I’ll still add this username on the list as well. And I’ll even let you have the last word. I will not respond with my poor grammar. It gets a little boring responding to bullies anyway. You can use your childish talk all you want. Have fun.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            This lady is whacked. 🙂

          • Mikey Jacobs

            You don’t have to capitalize hypocrites. It’s not a proper noun.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            Being a bigot IS being cruel to others.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            The harm and destruction you wanted on her will be upon you.

          • Enniscorthy

            I think not. You backed the wrong horse, and you will discover this when she turns on you, as she has turned on all her previous moderators. She is not right in the head.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            What “you” are doing is cruel. Your cruelty be upon yourself.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            Prayer doesn’t do anything. The Bible says that God is omnipotent and omnipresent. Take, for example, this recent shooting in Florida. That was God’s will. The last time there was a school shooting, people prayed there wouldn’t be any more shootings. If prayer worked, this current shooting wouldn’t have happened. If it DID work, you’d be changing God’s will, which you can’t do. So either your god is able to stop mass shootings and won’t, or he can’t stop mass shootings, which, according to the Bible, is impossible. So if he can and won’t, he’s a jerk. If he can’t, why call him a god? You’ve never actually read an argument against your position have you? I’m just trying to help you here. I’m not judging you for not researching this. Hardly anyone gives it any thought because they’re told never to question it. All I’m saying is that if you make a claim like that, you should have some evidence to back it up. Otherwise you’re not being intellectually honest. If your god gave you the ability to think critically, he would be totally fine if you questioned him. But you’ve been told that if you question him, you’ll go to hell. I wouldn’t wish that horrific punishment he created on anyone so I can understand why you’re afraid. Just ask yourself this question: Do you really believe in God, or do you just really want to believe? Either way, I hope none of this has made you sad or angry. That’s not my intent.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            Allah is the one true god. May his countanence shine upon you!

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I’m not Muslim..

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I am glad you posted the little “g” for aLLAH. You might want to go back to your “Friendly Atheist” site.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            You are so weird.

          • LynnRH

            LOL. Yea……he (Mikey Jacobs) IS a little on the weird side, isn’t he.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Yes he sure is. LOL….

          • Mikey Jacobs

            I see you capitalized Klan. You do realize that the KKK is a Christian organization, don’t you?

          • LynnRH

            There’s Christians and then there’s true Christians. KKK is definitely NOT true Christians.

          • Mikey Jacobs

            Allah be praised!

      • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

        Funny how TheKingOfRhye got snippy with me over tofu Turkey. Childish behavior.

        • TheKingOfRhye

          I’m not “snippy with you over tofu turkey”, I’m “snippy with you” over your bigoted comments and your faulty analogy.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            You were snippy with me for no reason. You are free to deny it all you want.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I wasn’t even “snippy” (until you started saying I was, maybe). I was making a point using the same analogy you were. Just because I disagree with you and tell you why, it doesn’t make me snippy, or hateful, or whatever you want to call it.

  • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

    Thank You Jesus. May Bermuda be Blessed. for repealing same sex Marriage. The Gay can still join together as couples in another way. But it is keeping Marriage between a man and a woman. The way it was meant to be.

    • Mikey Jacobs

      Praise Allah!!

  • james blue

    Gay marriage has zero effect on heterosexual marriage. Nobody is forced to marry someone of the same gender. It seems the only thing they accomplished here is change a word. They claim the civil partnerships have identical rights.
    If you don’t like them using the word “marriage” then don’t use it yourself,

    • Chet

      God Almighty, creator of Heaven and Earth and all contained therein, decreed marriage as the union before Him of male and female, period. Man has no right to thumb his puny nose at the one who holds his next heartbeat and eternal abode in His hand.

      • james blue

        Do you think we should live in a theocracy?

        • Chet

          Just look around: Hate, racism, violence, murder, abortion, greed, theft, destruction, pride, adultery, homosexuality, fornication, drugs, drunkenness, extreme cruelty, rape, child abuse, child molestation, cop killing, burglary, robbery, carjackings, general disrespect for America as never witness before, et al. Evidence is we’re already living under theocracy. And as the god of this world, the Devil himself is calling the shots in these last days… Nevertheless, the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary is still King of kings, Lord of lords and the one and only Saviour of men’s eternal souls. That is, all who will but repent and come to Him in faith believing the good news gospel. Thanks for this opportunity to share God’s love.

          • james blue

            You didn’t answer the question.

          • Chet

            Sure I did. Yes, we are presently living in a theocracy, that being the rule of the Devil himself, unbeknownst to you, apparently… For me, I’d rather see America return to her roots and fear God Almighty and honor the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary as opposed to giving herself over to the evil one, Satan… And that you might be made aware, there are no draftees in God’s army. It’s all volunteer, always has been, always shall be. Whosoever will may come… No one is ever forced into receiving the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary as his/her Lord and Saviour. You might check some “religions” for that aspect, dude…

          • james blue

            We live in a theocracy yet there are people “who don’t know it” ?

            No one is ever forced into receiving the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary as his/her Lord and Saviour.

            But you do want to force everyone to “live by his rules”

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            we are ………… and you seem to support it …………….

          • Chet

            God’s rules, His Word, His great mercy and grace afforded all us sinners. Yeah, that’s for me. I am in no wise forced to receive Him but have carefully considered the alternative and I choose to repent and believe on the Christ of Calvary and turn from my sin. Now, I am assured of Heaven at life’s end and I enjoy abundant life in the meantime to include taking time to share God’s love with those yet seeking something, something many know not of. Jesus Christ is The Way, The Truth and The Life and He is not willing that any should perish (die lost) but that all should come unto repentance. Christ never forced anyone to believe on Him but presented Himself as the answer and remedy for sin. Man is a free-will being and must make his own decision. And American government forces no one to receive Christ, neither should the nation or any believer be afraid to mention Him unto anyone… Thanks for this opportunity to share God’s love via Christ…

          • Tim Matter

            Chet- ” I am in no wise forced to receive Him but have carefully considered the alternative ”
            How is being threatened with a fate worse than death, not being forced to receive him?

          • Chet

            Some will hear the good news gospel and turn away from God’s free offer of mercy and grace preferring to somehow make it to Heaven on their own merits. Such is not possible, else Christ would not have gone to Calvary to be mocked, spit on, stripped, beaten with a whip and ultimately nailed to the Cross. And He did so for all humanity in that God, albeit altogether Holy, yet loves each and every one of us sinners. Others will hear the message and flat-out disbelieve trusting that upon death, just as divers roadkill, all is ended and we bloat and rot and pop till returning to dust just as the animal kingdom. Thus, soul-less. No God, no Heaven to gain, no Hell to shun, simply lights out… Most men will not hold to this position as deep down in their heart they know better…

            Still others will receive the message and understand that all are born sinners and by nature and practice we all do sin as we see fit without regards to any penalty for such. Then, the light of the glorious gospel of Christ shines through to their heart and they say yes. Yes, I know I’m a sinner and I would that all my wrongdoing be forgiven me and I hereby repent and in complete sincerity call upon the name of the Lord and trust Christ as my own Lord and Saviour. Thus, their sins are all then forgiven, and, get this, Tim, even forgotten at that point. Now, if you and I were friends and I offended you, you being a bigger man than I might very well say, well, I forgive you and we could go on from there. Yet, deep down inside you would never forget whatever I had done to wrong you. Not so with God, as when He forgives, He forgets and it’s all done for the sake of His only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary. Thanks for this opportunity to share….

          • Richard T.

            The comparison to someone threaten you to make a choice on the pain of death does not fit here.
            1. We already died, spiritually and will died physically. We are already separated from God eternally for we all have sinned and rebelled against God.
            2. Our choice is to (1) repent, believe in Jesus Christ, receive Him and receive life; or (2) stay the way we are and continue to be separated from God, life, light and all that is good for eternally.

            So God is not forcing us to accept Him OR we go to hell. The key here is that we ARE going to hell, God is saying to us, don’t go to hell, go to Him!

            It’s like a person already is dying with cancer, and a doctor comes up to him and offer him a miracle drug to heal him of cancer. The doctors says, “If you don’t take this drug, you will die.” So the patient accused the doctor of threatening him to take the drug or he will die. Sounds pretty ridiculous, doesn’t it. And that’s exactly where we are.

          • Tim Matter

            There are different teachings on this, but are we born already going to hell because of inheriting Adams guilt, or not until we commit our own first sin, or after the “age of accountability” when ever that is?
            And what about people who never heard the “good news”.

          • Richard T.

            There are different views on this. Throughout the whole Bible, we can see that the character of God is just. He is the judge of the whole earth and He will do justly. So I don’t know how everything works with people who have never heard of the Gospel and never heard of Jesus, but I believe they will be judged accordingly and God will do it right.

            As to your first point, Adam sinned and we inherited a sinful nature from Adam our forefather. That is why we all sin, because that is our human nature. We inherited that sinful nature from Adam. However, in the Bible it is very clear that God judge us on what we do personally, according to our own works. If we go to hell it is not because Adam sinned, but it is because we sinned and we have refused the salvation offered by God.

            As for age of accountability, I am not sure exactly what age that would be. But again, I trust God to be just, and He would determine that justly, perhaps on an individual basis. In the Old Testament, in Exodus, though, there was an incident where God hold everyone above the age of 20 accountable. So the concept of age of accountability is definitely Biblical.

          • james blue

            And I encourage you to live by that, but our right to do so doesn’t mean we get to force other to.

          • Chet

            Again, Sir, no one forces anyone in America (or anywhere else for that matter) to receive Christ as his/her own personal Lord and Saviour. Christianity is quite unlike “religion” such as is all too often forced on others like it or no. And far too often those rejecting their message are met with horrible consequences as is often cited on the news.

            The decision to receive repent and receive Christ is between the sinner hearing the good news message and the Holy Spirit’s working thereupon. Christians are merely mouthpieces and should thus be living examples of those whose lives have been transformed and otherwise enriched via the Christ of Calvary. It’s always the Christian’s job to share the good news gospel whenever and however possible. From that point on, it’s up to God Almighty to speak to the hearer’s heart and bring forth repentance and faith in His Son. Any forced decision to do anything would be one falsely made and not stemming from one’s heart. I’m thankful in America God’s good news is not restricted nor forbidden as in far too many other nations. God bless.

          • james blue

            I’m not talking about forcing anyone to accept Christ, I’m talking about laws to force people to live by the rules of our faith.

          • Chet

            In Iran, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Turkey et al there seem to be rules promoting Islam whereas Christians suffer for their faith. Nothing of the sort in America where freedom reigns and one can pick and choose what he believes or no.

          • james blue

            Where have I argued otherwise about Islamic majority states promoting Islam?

            We do have freedom of religion in the USA and we do have laws favoring “Christian” world views in the US. My point is that in order to protect freedom we shouldn’t have laws based on our faith imposed on others. Gays should be allowed to marry, gays should be allowed to serve in the military..

            I support a self employed baker’s right to refuse to sell a cake for a gay wedding, in fact I believe a private business should be able to do or refuse to do legal business with whomever they wish. I also support the right of non Christians to refuse goods and services to us. I do not believe religious freedom means other have to accommodate our faith. If your employers business conflicts with your faith it is up to you to work around it or seek employment elsewhere, not demand the law compel your employer to work around your faith and make accommodations.

            I am 100% responsible for living my life by my faith, no other person carries any responsibility or obligation to me to assist me in this.

          • Chet

            You, Sir, have the last word.

          • Tim Matter

            Chet- “No one is ever forced into receiving the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary as his/her Lord and Saviour. ”
            Question: What happens if I don’t receive the Lord Jesus Christ as my savior?

          • Chet

            I trust you are sincere, but for time and space, please consult your own Holy Bible at the following refs: John 3:1-7, Romans 3:10 & 23, 1st Corinthians 6:9-11 and Galatians 5: 19-21. All of us are sinners and all of us are in need of the one and only Lord and Saviour of men’s eternal souls, the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary. Jesus saves from the guttermost to the uttermost, no exceptions, no turn-aways. You can read of one man in Hell at Luke 16:19-31 and Revelation 20: 11-15 is the result of all those who die in their sins, in other words, were never born-again/saved. God loves you, Tim, and no matter your past and present, via the Lord Jesus Christ you can have forgiveness of all your sins and obtain His great mercy and grace, freely. Simply repent and turn to Christ in faith believing and call upon Him from the depth of your heart in sincerity and faith. Then, be sure to share your salvation experience with others and find yourself a good local Holy Bible preaching and teaching church to have fellowship with other believers of like precious faith and grow in your own faith and knowledge of the Lord Jesus… Upon receiving Christ, your eyes will open spiritually and you’ll begin to see things as never before and your beliefs will indeed change and habits will be broken and things will be good. Not that you’ll never have problems, no, and for sure, you’ll never become perfect. Nevertheless, you will be a new man in Christ Jesus with your eternity settled and God’s best blessings for you daily. Thanks for this opportunity to share God’s love in Christ Jesus…

          • Tim Matter

            Chet- ” the Devil himself is calling the shots in these last days…”

            “Just look around: Hate, racism, violence, murder, abortion, greed, theft, destruction, pride, adultery, homosexuality, fornication, drugs, drunkenness, extreme cruelty, rape, child abuse, child molestation, cop killing, burglary, robbery, carjackings, general disrespect for America..”

            Quote for me from the Bible where the devil told anybody to do any of these things. Then I will quote for you where God did.

          • Chet

            You might want to familiarize yourself with the Garden of Eden experience where the master deceiver instituted his evil influence of mankind. Then, you can read of his tempting the Lord Jesus in the wilderness and his working in and through men to have Christ killed anyway possible, thus preventing the Cross. Some men choose to follow Satan, why, I have no idea. Many are unwittingly following him while others seem to readily enlist in his service. The clay has no authority to question the potter. Neither do men have power to question or charge God Almighty, the One with whom we all have to do sooner or later. You might be better served to learn of Christ and His reason for coming to this world and giving His life a ransom for many. Your own eternal soul is at stake and nothing in life’s short journey trumps eternity in one place or the other, Heaven, for the saved and Hell for the lost. And understand His charge to Christians via the Great Commission as recorded in Matthew 28 and Mark 16, Holy Bible. Thanks for the opportunity to share God’s love for all us sinners via Christ and Him crucified and risen and living today, shortly to return for His own…

          • Tim Matter

            I asked for quotes from the Bible where Satan told anybody to do any of those things and I got none. Instead I get “You might want to familiarize yourself with the Garden of Eden experience.”
            You might want to re read that story yourself. You called Satan the master deceiver, but in the Garden of Eden story, he actually told the truth.

            Genesis 2: “16 And the Lord God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.”

            Genesis 3: “4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”

            They didn’t die on that day. Genesis 5:5 “And all the days that Adam lived were nine hundred and thirty years: and he died.”

            Their eyes were opened. Genesis 3:7 “And the eyes of them both were opened,…..”

            God himself admits “And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil:……” Genesis 3:22.

          • Chet

            The devil confounded Eve as indicated in her reply found at C3, v3. God did not tell them”neither shall ye touch it”. Such is the first example of mankind not knowing what he believes nor why. True, they did not die physically, but, rather, died spiritually. They became separated from God’s providential care and were cast out of the Garden. You somehow overlooked verse 15 of C3 which indicates the upcoming battle between God’s only begotten Son, whose heel would be bruised by the devil even as He, Christ, bruised his( the devil’s) head. All occurring at Calvary’s Cross.

          • Tim Matter

            I read Genesis 3:3 and it doesn’t say the devil confounded Eve. It is saying what Eve said to the serpent. She added the “don’t touch” to Gods “don’t eat” order.
            “they did not die physically, but, rather, died spiritually.” Besides reminding me of President Clinton’s avoidance of perjury charges with “It depends on what the definition of the word “Is” is…..suppose they did die spiritually. When they finally physically die, wouldn’t they be dead physically AND spiritually, and that would be the end?

          • Chet

            People walking around today who’ve never been born again/saved are dead men walking in that they’re dead in their sins and trespasses. Thus, they’re alive physically, obviously, yet dead spiritually just as Adam and Eve became when the disobeyed God. You can be sure the devil indeed confounded Eve as he spoke in and through the serpent via quizzing her and tricking her regarding what God actually said. Which did not include touching the fruit. I’m very familiar with the Clinton reference but am unable to draw any conclusion as this point regarding relevance to the Garden scene other than his scheme of words served his own purpose, or so he thought… Thanks for the exchange of views… Out…

          • Tim Matter

            “You can be sure the devil indeed confounded Eve…..quizzing her and tricking her regarding what God actually said.”
            I don’t recall him tricking her about what God said. She added the “Don’t touch” to God’s command not to eat from the fruit. If it is wrong to more strictly interpret Gods commands, Jesus did the same thing.

            Matthew 5 “21 “You have heard that it was said to the people long ago, ‘You shall not murder, and anyone who murders will be subject to judgment.’ 22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment.

            And Matthew 5 “27 “You have heard that it was said, ‘You shall not commit adultery.’[e] 28 But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart.

            And the things the serpent told her, he actually told the truth, and I quoted later verses where the Bible says what he said was true.

          • Chet

            Apparently you are blind to the scheme of confounding Eve in getting her to question the Almighty. I’m not blind to it, not at all. Respectfully, Tim, you seem to be more driven to somehow excuse the Devil, the absolute enemy of all mankind’s eternal souls and hater extraordinaire. He will continue to deceive and damn as many lost sinners as possible. It’s his job. You can well spend your time justifying evil’s origin to the best of your several ability. I elect to spend mine trying to warn fellow sinners to flee from the wrath of God to come. And they can all do so via repenting of their sin and turning unto the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary, for He will abundantly pardon. No exceptions, no turn-aways… Jesus saves from the guttermost to the uttermost… Any response further and you’ll have the last say as we’ve carried our interface about as far as it can go. God bless. Out…

          • Tim Matter

            “Apparently you are blind…”
            I quoted what the Bible says the serpent said to Eve, and then I quoted where the Bible confirmed what he said was true.

            You might be surprised to learn that the Jews don’t have the same view of what the serpent in the Garden of Eden, and what Satan were. The serpent didn’t become linked with being the devil until the New Testament, and in the Old Testament Satan could be used just to call something an adversary, or it could be the name of a heavenly being, but one that is working for God. The story of Job makes more sense that way. Satan was testing Job to see if he was really loyal to God, or just with him for the Earthly benefits.

          • Tim Matter

            “you seem to be more driven to somehow excuse the Devil, the absolute enemy of all mankind’s eternal souls and hater extraordinaire.”

            Just quoting the Bible. Let me add another quote.
            “Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar and the father of it.” John 8:44
            The devil was supposedly a murderer from the beginning, but if you go through the whole Bible and count, he is only credited with causing 10 deaths. Job’s children, plus an unknown number of Job’s servants.
            God is credited with killing, or ordering his people to kill over 2,500,000, and that doesn’t include mass deaths no number is given for, like the flood of Noah.

          • Chet

            You have the last say, Tim. I choose to warn sinners to flee from the wrath of God to come in turning to the Lord Jesus Christ of Calvary.

          • Richard T.

            First of all, death means separation. On the day that Adam and Eve disobeyed God and ate the fruit, they died spiritually right there. They were separate from God, the source of life. The physical death also became a certainty at that point, so indeed they died. Yes, their bodied kept going for many more years, but death already became the most certain thing on earth. There were no physical or spiritual death on earth before the fall of Adam and Eve. Because of their disobedience, sin and death entered and reigned.
            When we look at things we need to look at the how God sees it, not just how we see it. Also, if you read through the whole Bible, you will find it explains what happened in Genesis 3 more clearly in other parts of the Bible.

          • Tim Matter

            “First of all, death means separation.”
            Ah. Just like when Clinton was trying to weasel out of a perjury charge by equivocating on what the meaning of the word “is” is.

            Anyway, if someone is spiritually dead and remain that way until they physically die, is that the end for them?

          • Richard T.

            Definition is everything. However, there’s no weaseling here. If you understand that our spirits would never be annihilated, then you would understand death is simply a separation, particularly, separation from the source of life, which is God.

            The Bible is clear, if someone is spiritually dead and when their physical life ends, then that death/separation becomes permanent. While there’s life (physical) there is hope. While we still have breath, we can repent and choose life. But once that period of grace is over, then it’s done.
            Another analogy could be a criminal sentenced to be executed but was the sentence has not been carried out yet. Or the sentence was put on hold temporarily, so until the sentence is carried out, there is still possibility of mercy, of pardon.

          • Tim Matter

            Does being both physically and spiritually dead mean you are unconscious forever, or the opposite, in eternal conscious torment?

          • Richard T.

            Jesus answered your question in one of the passage in Luke, about a rich man and a poor man. Both of them died and the rich man went to a place of torment called Hades and the poor man went to a place of rest with Abraham. The rich man was conscious, he remembers and he can think and feel. He felt the heat in Hades and he was thirsty. So from that passage of the Bible, we know our spirits would not be annihilated after physical death. And we know that we retain our memory and consciousness. So, yes, we would be conscious of who we are, where we are and we would continue to feel (not in the strictest physical sense) our surroundings. That’s why it’s so important to preach the Gospel from the Christians perspective. For we are eternal beings, and either we would spend our eternity with God or separated from God in torment.

            Another analogy I have heard is that software have no mass. As an empty CD ROM and a CD-ROM full of information weights the same. So the digital information stays the same even if the physical medium gets old and we can simply transfer the information to a new medium. So the digital software is like our spirits, and even if our physical body dies, our digital information remains the same and unchanged.

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          you seem to want to make it a pagan-ocracy ………….. and you think it is different ……….

          • james blue

            My comment history is open to full public view. If you can find any comment I’ve ever made suggesting I don’t think you should be able to personally live by your faith please feel free to link to it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            SO WHAT … we already KNOW your history and your comments ……………. and we have read the tenor of them …………… and you PROMOTE …. NOT THE KINGDOM …… but PAGANISM …… and you defend it ……….. and your “self proclaimed self identifying christianity” …….. rings hollow ………….

    • Amos Moses – He>i

      “Gay marriage has zero effect on heterosexual marriage.”

      shouted out frequently ….. no basis in fact ….. against scripture for a so called self described “christian” to say it ………….. false conflation of facts ………… homomarriage is not a marriage …………..

      • james blue

        How does gay marriage change heterosexual marriage?

        I get that you don’t agree with gay marriage, but what marriage rights do we not have now that we had the day before gay marriage was legalized? What changed about heterosexual marriage?

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          does adding water to blood alter the blood …… does adding ink to water change water …… it pollutes it …… it makes it useless …. if i build a cesspool in my front yard next to your house ….. does it change your property value ……. are you really defending, as a so called-self proclaimed “christian”, destroying what God created ………. really …… and where do you get that authority ….. or guile ……

          • james blue

            My loyal marriage of over 4 and a half decades to my beautiful wife means the same today as it did the day we married. If yours has lost value that’s down to you. If heterosexual marriage declines in general or loses moral value, the fault lays squarely at the feet of heterosexuals, not the gays.

            Heterosexual marriage is no more changed by gay marriage than golf is changed by mini golf.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            right …… and yet you support the POLLUTION of that union …………. your grave …. not mine ………. and me building a cesspool on your front step keeps your property value the same ……. and you can put powdered sugar on effluent and call it a jelly doughnut ….. BUT IT AINT ………

          • james blue

            My marriage is not polluted. If you feel yours is you have only yourself to blame.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            all marriages are polluted by this ….. as it equates marriage and DEPRAVITY ……. and homomarriage is DEPRAVITY ………..

          • james blue

            I’m not in a “homomarriage” If your marriage is depraved that’s your fault.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you have and do support marriage as a conflation to DEPRAVITY …… as homomarriage is DEPRAVITY ……… it is not parallel, equal, conflated to marriage in any way ….. except that you accept it ………. so yes it is ………… it destroys societies …… read your scriptures ……. read history …… God does not tolerate it …………

          • james blue

            No YOU are the one conflating them, I’m saying they are separate.

            YOU are the one whose marriage is apparently altered by it, I’m saying it has no connection or influence.

            YOU are the one who thinks your marriage is now part of depravity because gays can marry, My marriage is as moral as it was the day it began. ,

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            NOPE ….. you are supporting a bastardization and pollution of marriage ……. and you support it in violation of scripture ……. and you are no christian if you continue to do so …… and all you have is smoke to blow up others skirts ……….. homomarriage is not marriage and anyone who supports it is misleading those who do not know the gospel …….. and that make you a liar and dangerous and and enemy of the gospels and Christ ……

          • james blue

            I refer you to the post you just responded to.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you have pitched your tent ….. not TOWARD Sodom ……. but DIRECTLY in the MIDDLE of it ……… Jimmy ….. i have read your dreck for months on end … going into years ….. you have YET to preach the KINGDOM ….. EVER ….. and i doubt you could even articulate just exactly WHAT the GOSPEL is …………… because you do not know it …… you speak out of the fullness of your heart ……. and it aint Christ …………….. enjoy your LOT …………..

            Ge 13:12 Abram dwelled in the land of Canaan, and Lot dwelled in the cities of the plain, and pitched his tent toward Sodom.

            Luke 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

          • james blue

            Fortunately for me and just about everyone else outside your band of internet girl scout militia, nobody has to go thru you to have their relationship with Christ validated.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you have none to begin with … as you never speak of Him …. and it is because you do not know Him ….. or else then you would speak of Him …… but all you ever speak of is your Sodom tent leaning ….. CINO ….. christian in name only ……

          • Enniscorthy

            I’m not surprised you argue so bitterly with james blue. He’s everything a Christian should be and your version of it wallows in rancor and bitterness.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            it destroys societies

            It takes its sweet time about it, then, doesn’t it? I mean, same-sex marriage has been legal in some countries for at least 10 to 15 years. Unless I missed something on the news, I don’t think any of them have been destroyed lately.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yup … God is patient and long suffering …. and scripture says this …… God waited for 400 years to destroy the amalikites ….. all the while the Hebrews were in Egypt and in slavery …. and they continued to sacrifice their children on the alter of Moloch ….. but then it came to an abrupt end ….. but homosexuals are already dying prematurely to every cause ….. and that judgement is not stayed …………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            It’s The Liberal Mindset Towards Sex That Is Destroying Our Nation-‘ nations die due to sexual debauchery, deviancy and loose sexual practices’ ~ .J.D. Unwin

          • Mikey Jacobs

            I’m sorry to butt in here, but do you have any reason to think homosexuality is depraved other than the Bible? I mean, the Bible says it’s okay to have slaves.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            NOPE …. it does not say it is okay to own slaves ……… Christ came to free people from slavery so wrong on that account ….. and homosexuality is depraved as it destroys the lives of its practitioners ………. their lives are shortened by 20 years on average …..

  • Chet

    Praise God for this brave God-fearing, Christ honoring decision. Now, can America be so convinced…

  • ppp777

    Is there still some sort of hope for this demonic world or am I just fooling myself , God bless this man for what he did , praise the Lord .

  • Becky

    This is great news! Praise Almighty God through Christ our Lord!

  • TheKingOfRhye

    It amazes me how so many people here are positively joyous about a right being taken away from other people.