Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice Tells Probate Judges Not to Issue Same-Sex ‘Marriage’ Licenses

Moore pdMONTGOMERY, Ala. — Alabama Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore, also known as the Ten Commandments Judge, has sent a letter and memorandum to probate judges throughout the state, advising them that they are not required to issue “marriage” licenses to same-sex couples despite a recent federal court ruling striking down the state’s Sanctity of Marriage Amendment.

“Lower federal courts are without authority to impose their own interpretation of federal constitutional law upon the state courts,” he wrote. “Not only is the Mobile federal court acting without constitutional authority, but it is doing so in a manner inconsistent with the Eleventh Amendment to the United States Constitution.”

“Interference with the right of state courts to make independent judgments based on their own view of the U.S. Constitution is a violation of state sovereignty,” Moore said.

As previously reported, Moore also sent a letter to Alabama Gov. Robert Bentley last week following the ruling by U.S. District Judge Ginny Granade, who declared the voter-approved state amendment unconstitutional.

“As you know, nothing in the United States Constitution grants the federal government the authority to redefine the institution of marriage,” he wrote, stating that the recent ruling raised “serious, legitimate concerns about the propriety of federal court jurisdiction over the Alabama Sanctity of Marriage Amendment.”

Moore pointed to the Scriptures in his letter, as Jesus declared in Mark 10:6-9 that “from the beginning of creation God made them male and female, [and] for this cause, a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife, and they twain shall be one flesh.” He also noted a U.S. Supreme Court ruling from 1885, which was reiterated in 1908, which stated that the foundation for marriage and family is “the union for life of one man and one woman in the holy estate of matrimony.”

Moore then called upon called upon Bentley defend the state Constitution as he does the same as Alabama Supreme Court Chief Justice.

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“I ask you to uphold and support the Alabama Constitution with respect to marriage, both for the welfare of this state and for our posterity,” he urged. “Be advised that I will stand with you to stop judicial tyranny and any unlawful opinions issued without constitutional authority.”

Bentley issued a statement soon afterward, vowing to fight to defend Alabama’s Sanctity of Marriage Amendment.

“The people of Alabama elected me to uphold our state Constitution, and when I took the oath of office last week, that is what I promised to do,” the governor said. “As governor, I must uphold the Constitution. … I will continue to oppose this ruling. The federal government must not infringe on the rights of states.”

Although the Southern Poverty Law Center has filed a judicial ethics complaint against Moore over the letter, Matt Trewhella, pastor of Mercy Seat Christian Church in Milwaukee, Wisc. and author of the book “The Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate,” told Christian News Network on Wednesday that Moore’s actions are right and proper.

“What Judge Moore and Gov. Bentley are saying is, this is an unjust, immoral ruling by the federal courts,” he said. “They have contradicted not only the law of God, but also the created order of God, and they are not going to go along with the federal government’s rebellion against God, but rather do their duty as lesser magistrates and defy the tyranny that the federal courts are imposing upon the people in states across America while they’re trampling Constitutions across the country.”

“What Judge Moore is saying is correct. The federal courts should not be the lone arbiters of what is constitutional or not, but state judges have the duty to rule on the constitutionality of law,” Trewhella continued. “That’s an extremely important issue for people to understand in this matter.”

He said that it is encouraging to see civil leaders take a stand for the law of God and states’ rights.

“I thank God for Judge Moore’s active interposition and I pray that both he and Gov. Bentley stand strong,” Trewhella stated. “Governor after governor across the country has capitulated to the federal courts and hid behind the lie that they simply have to obey the federal courts, which is not true. So, to finally see a governor and a chief supreme court justice of the state interpose is refreshing, and what they’re doing is right, just and needed.”


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  • Gary

    Go Judge Moore!!! The unconstitutional and immoral actions of the federal judiciary must be stopped.

    • Spoob

      You DO know that practically everyone in the solar system disagrees with you, right?

      • OldArkie

        Wow, do you want to change your mind, 15 agrees with Gary and only 3 agrees with you. I

        • Spoob

          Gary also wants to kill homosexuals and Catholics. Still want to agree with him?

        • tyler

          Right… because comments on this pseudo-news biased ultra conservative website reflect the views of most people…

          • darryl

            Like the pseudo-new biased ultra progressive website media matters reflects the views of most people

        • cris levin

          lol, so the count of humans in the solar system is 15+1=16.

          Bravo, what a scientific mind!

    • James Grimes

      Spoob: “You DO know that practically everyone in the solar system disagrees with you, right?”
      Gary, I guess you know by now that you can’t believe anything that this clown says. His comments are meaningless.

      • Spoob

        Grimes, you are garbage wrapped in skin.

    • Terry Roll

      Immoral is subjective, so I will give you that one if you consider ssm immoral, but where exactly is is unconstitutional?

    • thoughtsfromflorida

      They aren’t redefining marriage. The definition of marriage remains the same as it was prior to the laws that are being struck down. Two consenting, non-closely-related adults. What is being struck down is restrictions on the gender of those two citizens.

  • Fundisi

    This will go the the Supreme Court and should, it is long past time for the States to stand up against and oppose judicial tyranny. The courts have made themselves into super-legislative branches of government, superior to all other branches and they must be reigned in and go back to their role of interpreting the Constitution, not legislating from the bench.

    Sadly, I fear in the end our liberal judiciary will strike down this act and it then depends upon if they are able to force Moore to back down.

    • Badkey

      Gay marriage bans will all be dead later this year… if not, and there is that slim chance, then the other issue will render them toothless, as all states will be required to recognize gay marriages from outside the state. Either way, gay folks will win and there will be much wailing and gnashing of teeth from those against the bans.

      • Gary

        Any “win” for the perverts, or their enablers, is temporary at best. But legal ssm isn’t a win for anyone. Enabling people to sin is a losing proposition any time.

        • Badkey

          Yes, Gary, we’ve been hearing that for over 2,000 years.

        • Spoob

          What planet are you living on? Your mindset is becoming more and more rare, thank God.

        • James Grimes

          Gary, just remember that biblical truth trumps anything The Useless may say. They will always bad mouth things that Christians do and say, and telling the truth in doing so is NOT a priority.

          • Spoob

            Grimes, you are wholly incapable of reading and following the Bible responsibly. It has become your guidebook for hatred and beating up those you disagree with. In short, it has not benefitted you in any way and your pseudo-Christianity is a sham. YOU are the useless one.

          • dark477

            I’m afraid that the law trumps your so called “truths”

      • Fundisi

        You are absolutely right in your conclusions, but being right will never make it right, it will remain an abomination, a wicked thing and will only speed up our national moral/spiritual disintegration and I believe the complete destruction of America under God’s heavy hand of Judgment. So in the end, your win will be a horrific loss for America.

        • Badkey

          Your opinion of right… wicked… moral… is meaningless to all but you and those who agree with you. It is not our US law.

        • MattFCharlestonSC

          Boy will my face be red when the world comes to an end. How many apocalypses has your side predicted now? Is that even the right plural form of apocalypse?

          • Jack the Baptizer

            False association. Doomsayers are by definition fringe groups claiming to be Christian but having an extra-biblical basis. Predictions of apocalypse are unbiblical because it clearly states that we will not know the time before it comes.

          • Fundisi

            Jesus spoke against those that could not discern the signs of the times, while He said the day and hour is only known to the Father, He did tells us what would be the signs of that season.

          • Willem

            Darling pleeze religion has poisoned your brains, do get help asap.

          • Jack the Baptizer

            Yeah,I need a citation. I’m thinking about the Olivette Discourse in which I see that as being a warning that things will be dangerous, but not setting a certain danger level that will indicate specific timing for the end. I think his strongest warning was against believing those who would claim to know he had returned.

          • Fundisi

            Matthew 16: “…2But He replied to them, “When it is evening, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.’ 3″And in the morning, ‘There will be a storm today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ Do you know how to discern the appearance of the sky, but cannot discern the signs of the times? 4″An evil and adulterous generation seeks after a sign; and a sign will not be given it, except the sign of Jonah.” And He left them and went away.”

          • Jack the Baptizer

            So I read this and I’m not really seeing a call to know the time of his return. I just feel that the sign of Jonah isn’t the best sign to refer back to if the intent is to understand timing, instead of being warned and urged to repentance. Does that make sense?

            (Modern America’s similarity to Ninevah being a separate topic, but probably a good one)

            We went over eschatology in brief at church recently, and one of the things I brought up was the tendency for some (which includes my mother) to be so consumed with the end of the world, that they pay no attention to using spiritual gifts here while they can, or even praising God for offering a place with him in the new kingdom.

          • Terry Roll

            Dude, people have been saying the Apocalypse is near since the beginning of Christianity. There is nothing special about now vs any other time in history.

      • Versie Cleveland

        the devil will not get the victory so many of you are deceived by him he will never win because he al ready been judged he lost over 2000 years ago he going to burn in hell and his follows;its good to know the true, it is a spirit of deception in the world today but thank God for the true God the heavenly Father is the only true God; I know He is real I tried Him for my self some of you all need to try Him I guanratee you want regret it praying for you God bless you;

  • MattFCharlestonSC

    And the merry-go-round continues…

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/EyrtheFyre Regina Forbes

    Personally, I believe that marriage should NOT be licensed. If someone wants to marry someone else, it is between them and any officiant willing to perform the ceremony. However, since the inception of marriage licensure- which has its roots btw in racism (licenses were created to prevent interracial marriages) we’ve fallen down the rabbit hole. Licenses are now used by the gov’t as a contract between the married couple and the gov’t that any “fruit” of the married couple’s union ultimately belongs to the state. This is further re-enforced with the obtaining of a birth certificate of your child. The birth certificate is a contract between the parent, child, and the state so that if the parent is seen as being unfit by the state (by whatever reason the state determines this) the state can confiscate the child. Marriage licenses, birth certificates, and social security cards are NOT necessary. I highly suggest you check out George Gordon’s school of common law.

  • Badkey

    Watching him get fired again is going to be SO much fun!

    • Mary Waterton

      Watching him get re-elected will be fun too.

      • Badkey

        Maybe, but it won’t help him stop gay marriage in AL.

        • Willem

          The guy is a clown a homophobic racist like George Wallace was in his time and remember what became of him.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I had the exact same thought, and was going to say that very thing. I think Roy Moore is the George Wallace of the 21st Century.

  • SFBruce

    This didn’t work out so well for Moore back in 2003 when he ignored a federal court order to remove that gigantic 10 Commandments monument he unconstitutionally installed. He lost his job then, and that’s exactly what should happen today.

    • Gary

      That is not what should happen today. Federal judges have no authority to redefine marriage. If anyone is removed from their office, it should be federal judges who act unconstitutionally.

      • Badkey

        “Federal judges have no authority to redefine marriage”

        Then how did they do it in 1967?

        • Gary

          They had no authority to do it then either.

          • Badkey

            Ahhhhh… got it.

            (snicker)

          • Gary

            Even the Supreme Court lacks the Constitutional authority to define marriage.

          • Badkey

            I’m guessing because religion?

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            No court is defining marriage. How marriage is “defined” would be something that the two people in a marriage would decide. What the judiciary is doing is determining if laws banning marriage based solely upon gender are constitutional.

            The qualifications for marriage in states which allow same-gender marriage are the same now as they have been for years: Two, non-closely-related, consenting adults. It was only recently that additional laws were added which restricted marriage. Those laws have been ruled unconstitutional.

            If you believe that every justice that has ruled on this issue has acted unconstitutionally, then you should petition the appropriate authorities to start impeachment proceedings. It seems odd, though, that none of the groups which fight so vehemently against same gender marriage have not taken this step.They probably just aren’t as well educated about the constitution as you.

      • SFBruce

        What part of the US Constitution authorizes removing a judge from office over an opinion you don’t like?

        • Gary

          It does not matter whether I like the opinion.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            And they do.

    • Fundisi

      Who knows, but there is a price for standing with God, there always has been. But, the more your evil side wins, the faster you take this country into the moral/spiritual abyss, the sooner God’s Judgment will come against America.

      • MattFCharlestonSC

        Translation: “The sky is falling, the sky is falling”

        • Fundisi

          It will fall on you and the horror of it is beyond imagining.

          • Badkey

            BE AFRAID!!! ALWAYS BE AFRAID!!!

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            I’ll take my chances. None of your other apocalypses have come about, I’m guessing this one isn’t either.

          • Fundisi

            Just for the sake of conversation, assume I am right, the chance you are taking is being in absolute darkness, absolutely alone, quite conscious day and night and suffering unendurable torment forever, without end. That my friend is a long shot with the most horrific consequences you could ever imagine.

            A wise man, knowing that there might be some conscious existence after this one, rather than take that risk, considering the length of eternity versus this short life, would do everything in their power to find out what is true and what is not true about life after this one, to prepare for that journey. If I am right in my beliefs, why wouldn’t a wise man say, “God, if you exist I ask you to show yourself to me in a way I can understand and if you do, I will I will do all you ask of me to do your will that I might not suffer forever.” I would think that only a fool would take the risk you are so foolishly willing to take.

            I assure you that once you cross that river into eternity, there will be no appeal, no mercy.

          • Willem

            Oh jezus man are you nuts!

          • Terry Roll

            Well what if Allah is God? We better get on the good side with him too just in case he sends us to Hell as well. What about the tooth fairy? Can’t prove Allah and the toothfairy aren’t the real deal any more than your God.

      • SFBruce

        I certainly don’t share your belief that two people who want to make a lifetime commitment based on mutual love and shared dreams is evil, or in any way takes “this country into the moral/spiritual abyss.” On the contrary, marriage equality takes us one step closer to full equality for all, and deprives you of nothing. You’ll still be free to avoid associating with LGBT people, and you’ll still be free to say whatever you believe, even if it’s not true, about LGBT people.

        • Gary

          ssm is a fraud and a perversion. It benefits no one. It harms those who participate in it, and degrades society by calling evil good.

          • Badkey

            It benefits the married folks, their families, and your society with more stable households.

            How does it harm anybody? And don’t use mythology… you know that’s meaningless.

          • Gary

            BS.

          • Badkey

            How does it harm anybody? And don’t use mythology… you know that’s meaningless.

          • Gary

            You might as well ask me to explain dawn without referring to the sun.

          • Badkey

            Can’t tell us, can you?

          • Gary

            Right and wrong exist, even if you don’t believe it.

          • Badkey

            That has nothing to do with how marriage harms anyone.

          • Gary

            Yes, it does.

          • Badkey

            Word salad… because you have no relevant rational answer.

          • Gary

            Your opinion. For which I have no regard.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            That’s easy: The dawn is caused by the rotation of the earth.

          • Spoob

            He can’t even rely on mythology, but who needs that when your hate is as strong as Gary’s?

          • Willem

            The only thing degrading are your homophobic rantings.

          • Gary

            Shut up.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “It harms those who participate in it,”

            How does it harm the couple who are married?

            “degrades society by calling evil good”

            So then you believe that anything that is legal that is contrary to your religious beliefs “degrades society”. Therefore, the only way for society to not be “degraded” would be for us to chuck our constitution and put a Christian Theocracy in its place.

            Is that what you want, Gary? To throw out our constitution and put a Christian Theocracy in place? Why do you hate the freedoms the US constitution provides? Why do you hate the protections the US constitution provides? Are you anti-American? Do you hate America?

        • Fundisi

          It has nothing to do with love, it is sexual deviancy, an attack on traditional, God designed marriage, attacks against Christ and the furtherance of the moral/spiritual implosion in America.

          My family will be exposed to this perversion of marriage, to this sexual depravity, to this break down of true marriage and they cannot help but be polluted by this great evil. It is not about marriage, it is about perverting marriage and recruiting our children as their sexual prey, their future sexual victims. It is anti-Christ!

          • Badkey

            Tradition changes, deviancy is your opinion, your god isn’t required, nor his gay carpenter son, and your version of morality is just that… yours.

            Don’t take your family to gay weddings. Don’t let them watch gay porn (or whatever it is you’re doing that their witnessing physical relations). Marriage truly is a civil contract that requires no religion… and it still is.

            How, pray tell, has marriage between a man and woman changed?

          • Spoob

            No, Fundisi, it’s love. Talk to a gay person sometime. It is not a worldwide conspiracy where every single gay person has been taught to lie. They are in love. No really. Actual love.

          • Gary

            Legal marriage has NOTHING to do with love. When one applies for a marriage license, they do not require that those applying be in love.

          • Badkey

            Legal marriage has nothing to do with procreation, your religion, or all the other nonsense you guys keep losing with.

          • Spoob

            In the real world as we know it, when people fall in love, they often get married.

          • Gary

            Yes, they do. But falling in love is not a requirement.

          • Spoob

            So you’re saying all the gay people wanting to get married are just pretending to be in love?

          • Gary

            I’m saying that it does not matter in order to become legally married.

          • Spoob

            Why would anyone get married if they weren’t in love?

          • Gary

            There could be several reasons. In my state, the government does not ask if the applicants love each other. That is not a requirement.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            And in NO state does the state ask if the couple are going to reproduce, have sexual relations, or if they follow the teachings of the Bible – so, like the issue of being in love, those are irrelevant to the legal status of marriage.

          • Terry Roll

            Gary got married and he wasn’t in love. Closet gay guys have a hard time falling in love with a woman when they actually are into men.

          • Spoob

            He and Oboehner spend nights of passion together as they dream of the deaths of homosexuals and Catholics.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “Legal marriage has NOTHING to do with love. ”

            Correct. Nor religion. Nor procreation.

          • Willem

            Get your homophobic brain out of the gutter.

          • Fundisi

            A phobia is an irrational fear of something and since God condemns homosexuality and lesbianism, it is not irrational to stand with God in hating that sin and wanting those people to repent and come to a saving knowledge of Jesus Christ, which is the love of God.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Talk about “redefining” things! For a bunch of people so obsessed with preventing the definition of marriage from changing, you people sure do love to unilaterally redefine that word.

          • Fundisi

            We do not define or redefine the term, God sad it is between one man to one woman and he does not even remotely hint of any other definition.

          • Tom

            Please quote one Bible verse that speaks of lesbianism.

          • Gary

            Romans 1:26

          • Fundisi

            Romans One “26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.”

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “an attack on traditional, God designed marriage”

            How does allowing two people of the same gender into the legal contract of marriage “attack” traditional marriage? Is civil marriage being denied to male/female couples? Are those who want a church rite of marriage being denied? How is “traditional” marriage being “attacked”?

            “How does allowing two people of the same gender into the legal contract of marriage “attack” Christ?” Are people no longer to believe in Christianity? Are people no longer able to only enter into traditional marriage according to Christian beliefs? Is anyone being forced, as a result of same-gender marriage, to no longer believe in Jesus? How is Christ being “attacked”?

            “My family will be exposed to this perversion of marriage, to this sexual depravity, to this break down of true marriage and they cannot help but be polluted by this great evil.”

            Why can’t they help but be polluted? Is their faith so weak and frail that merely being exposed to something threatens them? Should we then make it illegal for citizens to do anything which is against biblical teachings? Should what citizens be allowed to do be restricted based on your family’s desire to not be exposed to things that “pollute” them because their faith is so weak?

            Wouldn’t it be equally true that your displaying your Christian faith “pollutes” those who believe differently, and therefore you shouldn’t be allowed to express your faith because it might pollute those of different faith?

            “and recruiting our children as their sexual prey, their future sexual victims”

            You don’t actually believe that do you? You can’t actually believe that people can be “recruited” to be sexually and romantically attracted to someone of the same gender, can you? What would be the enticement? “Hey – start feeling sexually and romantically attracted to people of the same gender and you’ll get to be told by fundies that you are going to spend eternity in hell, be the brunt of teasing and abuse in school, have people who call for your death, and have to fight in order to gain the rights other citizens take for granted”.

            Oh yeah – that sounds great. Who wouldn’t to join up for that, right? Puuuuuuleeeeeeeze.

            You must be horribly confused about the protections provided by our constitution. You seem quite miserable living in a nation that does not force citizens to live according to your religious views. You do realize, don’t you, that is never going to happen under our constitution?

            You may find that you would be happier and experience less angst living in a nation that is a Christian Theocracy. For instance……uh…….well there’s……hmmmm……Ok, well there’s not any. There used to be, but they all fell apart. But you could start your own! You could call it “Funlandia”. People might be lured there because they think it is going to be “fun” (Kind of like the trick “Green”land pulled on people) – won’t they be shocked when they find out “fun” is short for “fundamentalist”.

      • Willem

        Darling i just emailed your god and she told me that homophobia is just like racism.

        • Fundisi

          I am not your darling! Since God could not and would not say anything contrary to His revealed Word, you are going to have to point me to where in the Bible He said exactly what He said in your imaginary email.

      • thoughtsfromflorida

        Since Christians eagerly anticipate the second coming and view it as something to be celebrated, then you should be thanking those who are hastening that event.

        You’re welcome.

        • Fundisi

          No man hastens the Lord’s coming, He has set the times, we only celebrate our new birth in Christ and humbly walking with Him, trusting in Him and leave these things to God. While it will be great when the Lord returns for Christians, who can find joy in the horrors that will come upon the world, people we love, when the Wrath of God comes?

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “No man hastens the Lord’s coming,”

            But you said: “the more your evil side wins, the faster you take this country into the moral/spiritual abyss, the sooner God’s Judgment will come”

            So which is it? The Lord’s coming can be hastened (which would make your follow-up post untrue), or it can’t (which would make your initial post untrue)?

            “who can find joy in the horrors that will come upon the world, people we love, when the Wrath of God comes?”

            But you said: “we only celebrate our new birth in Christ”. Isn’t a celebration joyful? So which is it? You are celebrating Christ’s return or you find it horrible?

            You have referred to me as being anti-Christ, of the devil, possessed, etc. If you believe that to be true, then why do you think it would be horrible for me to be destroyed? If that is what God wants, then how can it be horrible? Are you saying that God wants horrible things? Was it “horrible” that God banished Satan (odd that God can banish Satan yet somehow lets him have free reign on earth but…..la la la…..it doesn’t have to make sense…it’s faith) to the underworld? Isn’t that what you believe unbelievers deserve? Or is it that it’s not really horrible, but you’ll just feel bad for them?

      • Truthhurts24

        AMEN!

  • Mary Waterton

    Definition of Marriage Amendment
    Balanced Budget Amendment
    Term Limits Amendment (for Congress & the Supreme Court)

    Article 5 Constitutional Convention is the way to go. It takes 34 states to initiate one & Washington has no vote in the matter.

    • Badkey

      ROFLOL!

      Good luck.

  • Sweetpea

    I pray more judges do this. They should not allow anyone to issue marriages licenses to so called ssc. The SCOTUS are not allowed to make laws they are only to interpertate the Constitution, & to do so correctly not incorrectly as they are doing now.

    Licenses

    • Badkey

      How, exactly, is it “incorrect”?

      • Gary

        It is incorrect because federal judges have no authority to redefine marriage.

        • Badkey

          Yes, Gary, I know your opinion…

          You say that because religion… which is not law.

          • Gary

            It is because the Constitution does not grant them that authority.

          • Badkey

            Okee dokee.

          • Gary

            You can prove me wrong by citing the part of the Constitution that gives federal judges the authority to define marriage, or by citing the part of the Constitution that defines marriage. Well?

          • Badkey

            The part that identifies issuance of protections, immunities, and benefits by the federal government. See, it’s NOT about marriage as you narrowly define it. I know you disagree…

            But your disagreement will not help you stop it.

          • Gary

            Homosexuals have the same protections, immunities and benefits as I do. You have no argument to make.

          • Badkey

            That’s why who’s winning?

          • Gary

            You think you are winning? You’re delusional.

          • Badkey

            Oh, I am Gary, I am!

            Michigan now recognizes the gay marriages that took place before the 6th Circuit’s findings… increasing the chance that the Circuit’s findings will die.

            Isn’t that wonderful?

          • Gary

            What about proving me wrong by using the US Constitution? Did you give up on that?

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            I think the recent precedent set by the US Judicial system already proved you wrong using the US Constitution.

          • Gary

            No, it has not. I don’t care what judges say, only what the US Constitution says.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Okay, well what kind of “proof” are you looking for?

          • Badkey

            Many have. You disagree… even though 90% of all judges who have decided on these cases disagrees with you.

            That’s your problem, Gary. Not mine.

          • Gary

            You are a liar. Nobody, including any federal judge, has proven that federal judges have the Constitutional authority to define marriage. Neither have they proven that marriage is defined in the US Constitution.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            The 14th Amendment. You’ve been told this over and over again.

          • Gary

            And over and over again I have explained that the 14th Amendment is not violated by limiting marriage to one man and one woman. Why don’t you understand that?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Why? Because you say so? The federal judiciary, 95% of which disagrees with you, is entirely wrong?

          • Gary

            Yes, the judges are wrong. They should stop lying.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Again, what is your basis for saying they’re “wrong?”

          • Badkey

            “cuz marriage is a man and woman” (watch and see)

  • Harry Oh!

    Finally, real men who have the balls to stand up to the gaystapo! Our nation used to have lots of great men like this, sadly they are few and far between now.

    • MattFCharlestonSC

      I’m a real gay man. Come stand up to me.

    • Badkey

      Come on big boy… Come on upta Maine and show me what you got.

      • Harry Oh!

        Maine State Prison? I’m sure you’d like that……but think I’ll pass.

        • Badkey

          Not hardly little man…

    • Gary

      Any time in American history, prior to 1970, or maybe even later, the federal judiciary would not have ruled in favor of changing marriage. If for no other reason than they would have feared impeachment. Elected officials likewise would not have supported ssm either because they knew it was wrong, and not required under the US Constitution, or because they would have feared for their jobs.

      • MattFCharlestonSC

        I love when the religious right talks about how powerful they USED to be.

        • Badkey

          Agreed!

        • Gary

          You celebrate the moral decline of America. And lots of people join you. But a lot of us don’t.

          • Badkey

            America’s fine… fundies, not so much.

          • Willem

            Well said,those fundies should worry about their 50 % divorce rate,now thats something important. This fight is over and the poor fundies lost.

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            If it weren’t for “moral decline” women wouldn’t be voting, black and white people couldn’t get married, there’d still be slavery…

          • Badkey

            To Gary, that IS moral decline.

          • Jack the Baptizer

            Untrue. Racial differences have been ignored by reform Christianity since before 1900, hence the hymn Jesus Loves the Little Children, where all known skin colors are recited with the intent to emphasize equality. I’m sure there are more references, but the culture of prejudice was largely geographic in expression and has no scriptural basis whatsoever. In fact, one of God’s most notable prophets was Moses who married a woman from Ethiopia.

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            “Almighty God created the races white, black, yellow, malay and red, and he placed them on separate continents. And but for the interference with his arrangement there would be no cause for such marriages. The fact that he separated the races shows that he did not intend for the races to mix.”

            — Judge Leon M. Bazile, January 6, 1959

          • Jack the Baptizer

            So, I tell you a racist who happens to be Christian is a culturally driven anomaly, and you bring me some weirdo from Inbetweensville, Virginia? Have you ever met an actual Christian?

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            So I tell you in 25 years someone is going to say this same exact thing about you. Enjoy being a culturally driven anomaly.

          • Jack the Baptizer

            Baseless and irresponsible. You will only find scripture to support lack of racial boundaries for a Christian, and anything else by definition will be going off-book.

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            Based in reality — the past repeats itself. In 25 years people will be saying the same things about you.

    • Spoob

      “Gaystapo”….oh my God, is that the best you’ve got??

    • dark477

      And the SPLC will hand him his balls on a silver platter….again

    • thoughtsfromflorida

      “real men who have the balls to stand up to the gaystapo!”

      How is suggesting that judicial officials not follow the ruling of federal courts an example of standing “up to the gaystapo!”?

      “Our nation used to have lots of great men like this”

      What “great men” have suggested the rulings of federal courts be ignored?

      • Harry Oh!

        Obviously I’m talking about real men who know what their balls are for in the first place.

        • thoughtsfromflorida

          So you believe that the purpose of a man’s testicles is to block judicial rulings? Interesting.

  • Spoob

    Not the first time he’s said something bafflingly stupid. He has also said that the Furst Amendment only protects Christians.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      I’m endlessly astounded at how Roy Moore ever managed to get through law school without ever reading a single case.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      I’m endlessly astounded at how Roy Moore ever managed to get through law school without ever reading a single case.

  • Tom

    Regardless of your religious beliefs, this country was founded on the separation of church and state. These arguments are the same that have been used in the past to prevent equal voting rights, women’s rights, integration, and interracial marriage. In that no real evidence has been provided that gay marriage will be the downfall of society, where is my right to marry and love the one individual I want without having to defend that right. Who has the right, other than myself and the person I have chosen to be with, to determine what life I want to live. I don’t tell the religious conservatives who they can share their lives with, nor should I.

    • Gary

      You need to prove that you have the right to marry who you want. I don’t have that right, and neither does anyone else.

      • MattFCharlestonSC

        The right to marry any consenting adult you want will be the law of the land everywhere, soon.

        • Gary

          Maybe it will. And maybe it won’t. But if it happens, it will be temporary.

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            You obviously live on a different planet than the rest of us.

          • Gary

            I wish that were true, and it soon will be.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            If you believe you will soon be living on another planet you either envision space travel being a reality very soon, or you are Mormon. Which is it?

          • Gary

            I am going to Heaven, which is not another planet, but it isn’t this world either.

          • Badkey

            Uh huh… sure…

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Well you said earlier that were soon going to be living on another planet, so I was curious what you meant by that. Mormon’s do believe that God lives on a planet, as does Jesus, and that they will be living on a planet when they die. So I thought perhaps you were a Mormon.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “But if it happens, it will be temporary.”

            What would cause it to be temporary?

          • Gary

            Jesus Christ is coming back to earth soon. When he arrives, he will put an end to ssm. And to homosexuals. And to their supporters.

          • Oshtur

            Or to those persecuting and hating them. We will see, I pray He spares you.

          • Gary

            Who you praying to?

          • Oshtur

            God , the Father and Jesus Christ. Pray that His live can save even wretchs like us.

          • Gary

            No, you are not praying to God the Father, or to Jesus Christ. If you were, you would not support homosexuals and ssm.

          • Oshtur

            God has nothing against homosexuals and said there is no male or female in the body of Christ, by His Word Christians marry just fine regardless of their genders.

            You have no understanding of God or His Word. You are by your comments here made clear you are devoid of the Spirit and exhibit none of it’s fruit. Begone before someone drops s house on you.

          • Gary

            According to the Bible, God does have something against homosexuals. And God also said marriage is heterosexual only. Should I believe the Bible, or you?

          • Oshtur

            You are misreading it – the Bible never even used the word ‘homosexual’ and it defines marriage that can happen regardless of the ‘male or female’ of the couple.

            Believe God, the Bible, and me, they are all compatible.

          • Gary

            I am not misreading it. You are lying about the Bible. You are a liar, a blasphemer, a heretic, an infidel, and a reprobate. Your future is bleak.

          • Oshtur

            Actually you will be judged as you have judged others – I hope You get more mercy than you give but that will be up to God.

          • James Grimes

            Yes, it does seem that way. It’s his choice.

          • James Grimes

            The Bible was written in Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. The original languages used words that are today correctly translated as “homosexual.”
            As you may not believe that the Bible is the absolute Word of God, for you the point is moot. There is no defense that you can present that would be credible.

          • Oshtur

            Actually no. Not in the Old Testament, not in the new. All mentions of same-sex behavior are in situations where opposite-sex behavior would no less wrong. God is not concerned about the differences between male and female for those under the New Covenant as we are to be as in the next world. Christians marry just fine regardless of their sexes.

          • James Grimes

            Absolute rubbish.

          • Oshtur

            Take it up with God.

          • James Grimes

            “As you do not believe that the Bible is the absolute Word of God, for you the point is moot. There is no defense that you can present that would be credible.”
            Bye.

          • Oshtur

            And that’s how it should be. We may disagree on what meats to eat, what dates to celebrate, and who can marry. But in the end neither of us will decide this, God will. I’m more than willing to leave this in His hands, are you?

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            So you have a time-frame? I’d like to plan a brunch or something like that.

      • Ambulance Chaser

        How many rulings do you need me to cite to prove he has that right?

        • Gary

          If everyone had the right to marry whoever they want, then there would be no qualifications for marriage.

      • Terry Roll

        What skin is it off your back? People marry who they want, and in your world they simply go to Hell. Not your problem, so why the obsession over it?

        • Gary

          I hate homosexuals, and their supporters.

          • Badkey

            Ah, more Christian Love™! Thanks Gary… you’re awesome!

          • Gary

            You are one that I hate. By the way, God hates you too. And that is a real problem for you.

          • Badkey

            *KISSES!

          • Spoob

            You are not God, don’t speak for God, etc. I have told you this over and over.

          • Terry Roll

            I see two possibities here. First is that you are just a bigot who is hiding behind Christianity to justify his hate. Second is that you are a closet gay man in the south that is using the ole Ted Haggard trick to throw off the scent. I bet it is the latter, and you end up with breaking down and banging the pool boy like Ted did.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Doesn’t the Bible teach that you should not hate?

      • thoughtsfromflorida

        “You need to prove that you have the right to marry who you want”

        No such right is being sought. The right that is being sought is the right to marry the consenting, non-closely-related adult of one’s choosing.

    • Versie Cleveland

      in the end you will see who has the last say so every knee is going to bow and every tongue is going to confess that Jesus is Lord ; God the Heavenely Father is real not trying to convince you just telling you the true.

      • OldArkie

        True.

        John 5:29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

        Its a shame they refuse to listen to the Word of God, refuse to repent, refuse to be saved, refuse to believe upon Jesus, for that group will have a resurrection, yet its the resurrection of damnation. Yet there’s still time if they would only.

        Romans 10:9,10
        ¶ That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

      • tyler

        If Jesus wanted someone to try scare people into believing in him, he probably would have chosen someone who has even a loose grasp on writing a sentence or using punctuation.

        You’re welcome to believe in and worship Jesus, but not everyone does. And you should respect that. I’m not going to be bowing or confessing anything to an imaginary person you call Jesus. Nobody knows what happens after you die, and I don’t believe anyone ever will.

        • Gary

          What if you are wrong?

          • tyler

            what if you are wrong? what if mohammad is the one true prophet? what if ganesh is who you should be worshipping?
            why did everybody stop believing in zeus?
            christianity is one of the many faiths that is popular right now.
            why are there tens of thousand of christian churches none of which agree on anything?
            there’s never been a shred of evidence for any God, ever.
            We all simply do not know. I’m ok with that.

          • Gary

            Good grief. How long did it take for you to get that stupid?

          • Badkey

            Interesting that you can’t prove him wrong.

          • Gary

            There is plenty of evidence to prove him wrong. But like you, he is not interested.

          • Badkey

            Nope. If there were, and you could prove it, you could change the world.

          • Gary

            There is no proof that you would accept.

          • Badkey

            Then there is no proof. Can you not accept proof that fire burns, water freezes, or falling can kill?

          • tyler

            I am very interested. I’ve seen or heard every public debate on the topic of God / Christian God / Religion from the past few decades.

          • Gary

            And yet you remain an unbeliever.

          • tyler

            Thanks for the direct insult Gary – I thought Christians were supposed to be kind to their neighbor.

            Good luck wasting your time and money worshipping an imaginary person. I believe in life before death – I’ll be spending my time and money having fun with my family and getting the most out of this life.

        • Jo Ann

          Same goes for Heterosexual Christians who refuse to bow down and commit or believe in a behavior that is an abomination and offensive to God’s Word because of your own justified actions of it.

      • Jo Ann

        Thank you Vercey Cleveland!!

    • MAC

      This really has nothing to do with “religion”, though sodomy is an abomination to Almighty God –both OT and NT. This issue is according to the Alabama Constitution of 1901 and the will of we, the people by 81%, and judicial overreach of the federal court.

      If this is federal court is allowed to overreach its jurisdiction then you will see federal courts begin to trample the federal Constitution, states rights, state constitutions, and individual rights, making the federal Constitution say whatever they say it is at their whim.

      Sodomites and their ilk say that that the majority of the people are supportive of sodomite marriages, if that is so then why have over 30 states been MANDATED by the federal courts to overturn the will of the people in those states? It is because it is a lie! The people do NOT want it but the only way sodomites can get their aberrant behavior “accepted” is for it to be mandated by activist liberal courts!

      • Oshtur

        Mac, this is about citizens, the federal constitution, a fundamental right and the civil contract that establishes this allows government recognition of this right. Because we have a federal constitution limiting and defining what things government can and can’t do is why the courts are over turning unconstitutional laws and state constitutions.

        Can’t say some citizens can’t lucense a civil contract just because you don’t like the gender of one of the cosigners. Can’t say the the fundamental familial relationship the contract legally establishes exists in one state and not another. And most certainly can’t interfere with one citizen’s rights over another because of animus.

        That’s what’s this is about, that’s why this is happening, and that’s why the Feds are doing what they are doing to prevent a systematic unconstitutional wrong.

        • MAC

          Yes, limited government. And WHO made the states? And who made the federal government? And who is the master of government? It happens to be a matter of jurisdiction. What they are and from whence they came. There are four jurisdictions and they have been ignored by courts and by governments.

          It all began April 19, 1775.

          • Oshtur

            We the people made the government and are the government. We have expectations of how contracts are administrated federally on down. The civil contract of marriage is being ruled consistent with federal constitution, statutes, and case precedence. No ignoring going on other than those against its equal treatment.

      • thoughtsfromflorida

        “though sodomy is an abomination to Almighty God”

        More accurately, an abomination to what you have CHOSEN to believe regarding God’s views. Unless you are God, you cannot know for certain what he views as being an abomination. Are you God, MAC? If not, then it is nothing more than your belief, and your belief has no more validity regarding “truth” than anyone else’s.

        “If this is federal court is allowed to overreach its jurisdiction”

        Alabama is within this court’s jurisdiction.

        “if that is so then why have over 30 states been MANDATED by the federal courts to overturn the will of the people in those states?”

        What does judicial rulings regarding laws that were passed a decade or so ago have to do with current views on the issue?

        “It is because it is a lie!”

        What is your basis for stating that it is a lie that, at this time, a majority of US citizens are not supportive of allowing two citizens of the same gender to enter into civil marriage?

        “the only way sodomites can get their aberrant behavior “accepted” is for it to be mandated by activist liberal courts!”

        Entering into civil marriage is not a behavior, nor do the rulings on this issue have anything to do with behavior.

        Several states have put same-gender marriage in place by popular vote. Therefore, your statement that the “only” way same-gender marriage has become legal is through mandates from “activist liberal courts” is false.

        What makes a court “activist” and “liberal”?

        • MAC

          Leviticus 18:22

          “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

          I think that is self explanatory not that it makes any difference to you or any other who wants to take up for or participate in sodomy.

          The rest of your post is matter of twisting facts. Yes, several states have by popular vote chosen to accept sodomite marriage, however, well over 20 states chose NOT to but the courts have overruled the will of the people of THOSE states and their state laws as unconstitutional. THAT is what makes courts activist/liberal when they overrule the will of the people and/or the laws of the states.

          Marriage has always been defined as one woman and one man. At any rate it was done so in our organic law from the beginning. But that is beyond understanding for those who do NOT want to understand because they do not want the truth.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “not that it makes any difference to you”

            Correct. Nor is it relevant to our laws.

            “The rest of your post is matter of twisting facts.”

            What facts did I twist?

            “well over 20 states chose NOT to but the courts have overruled the will of the people of THOSE states and their state laws as unconstitutional.”

            Not, “the will of the people”, rather the will of SOME of the people. Let’s look at the most recent vote which took place in North Carolina.

            There are 6,296,759 registered voters in NC. Of those, 2,157,980 (34.3%) voted on Amendment 1. Of that, 1,317,178 (21%) voted in favor and 840,802 (13.4%) voted against. Therefore, 7.6% of the registered voters in NC made the difference in deciding that same gender marriage should not be legal in NC. I hardly think that 7.6% of voters represents the “will of the people”.

            “THAT is what makes courts activist/liberal when they overrule the will of the people and/or the laws of the states.”

            So do you believe that citizens should NOT have the right to challenge laws in court and that the judiciary should NOT be empowered to rule on the constitutionality of those laws?

            When the SCOTUS overruled the “will of people” in states that banned interracial marriage, was the SCOTUS “activist/liberal”?

            “Marriage has always been defined as one woman and one man.”

            Clearly not true as marriage was, and still is in many places, defined as between one man and several women.

            “At any rate it was done so in our organic law from the beginning.”

            Not true. Our “organic” law banned polygamy. No where did it state that marriage is solely between a man and a woman.

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  • Tim Raynor

    Well, there’s no way this won’t wind-up in the Supreme Court. As it turns out, the Bible is not the law of the land, as Justice Moore will find out the hard way once again. Should be entertaining. 🙂

  • Willem

    Total homophobic BS.

  • dark477

    Just one more reason to kick this bum out

  • Spoob

    Oh my gosh, I hope SO much that they fire this bigot.

  • James Grimes

    And so the revolution begins… BTW, I know how John and Mary produce children. How does John and George produce children? I guess it’s not a real “marriage,” is it.

    • Oshtur

      Even if John and or Mary are sterile? How do they do that?

    • dark477

      Adoption or Surrogacy

    • Ambulance Chaser

      There’s a requirement that you be fertile to get married? Now who’s “redefining marriage?”

    • Spoob

      So you are only allowed to marry if you plan to reproduce? On what planet?

    • Badkey

      Marriage requires no procreation.

  • Jo Ann

    Yayyyyyy for judge Moore!!!

  • Jo Ann

    Oh I cannot wait to hear about judge Moore getting re – elected again n don’t worry be we out here in the solar system got your back!!! ÷)

  • Jo Ann

    Why does everyone gotta be Homophobic just because we are not down with this kind of behavior???

    • Badkey

      Then don’t engage in it. Problem solved.

      • Jo Ann

        Problem solved….I don’t.

  • Jo Ann

    Integration, voting rights, women rights, racial equality etc….etc….is not the same as two men n two 2 women bonding physical n sexually n married. That’s like trying to compare apples n oranges!!!! So stop using this analogy!!!!!!!

    • Badkey

      The mentality of hostility against them IS the same.

  • Versie Cleveland

    amen Judge moore taking a stand thank God for Judge moore we need more Judges like him!!!

  • TheBBP

    This makes Christophobes mad.

    • dark477

      This makes believers in law and order mad,

      • Gary

        Come on. You only support the law when you agree with it.

        • Badkey

          Like you.

          • Gary

            I will accept laws that are really Constitutional, even if I don’t agree with them.

          • Badkey

            Based on who’s interpretation of the constitution? Yours, or the people put in place to interpret it?

          • Gary

            Based on my interpretation, which is as literal as possible.

          • Badkey

            Ah, I see!

            Watching you is so much fun, Gary! See, we don’t operate on YOUR interpretation.

            This is a good thing!

          • Gary

            Well, anyone who reads the Constitution as written will likely see it like I do. For instance, the Constitution says nothing about marriage. Neither does it grant to federal judges the authority to define marriage.

          • Oshtur

            Marriage is just the title of a contract and the Constitution has lots to say about them, yes even how they can constitutionally be defined b

          • Gary

            Marriage is far more than a business contract.

          • Badkey

            True… it is a civil contract between two citizens.

            Nothing more.

          • Gary

            It is more than that.

          • Badkey

            Where do you get that?

            Not in US law.

          • Oshtur

            It’s a civil contract. In my state the first line in the first territorial statute regarding marriage it simply said “Marriage is a civil contract” as it still does today.

            This is only about the civil contract that involves a fundamental human right. If you thought it was about something else that explains some of the loggerheads in this discussion.

          • Badkey

            They’re not… they’re interpreting rational basis for denial of federal benefits, immunities, and protections.

            And you offer no rational basis for such denial.

          • Gary

            But homosexuals are NOT being denied any of those things. They only have to legally marry in order to get them. And they can legally marry, by the same rules that everyone else must follow.

          • Badkey

            Hmmmmm…

            I’ll take 60+ federal (and state) judges over you Gary.

            It is, after all, their job and their training. That trumps your opinion.

            Until you can posit a rational defense in banning gay couples from receiving the benefits, immunities, and protections of marriage to someone of the same gender, you will lose.

            Saying the ban is OK does not posit such a rational view.

        • dark477

          I support the law, if I disagree with one I try to change it legally but I don’t just ignore it.

  • OldArkie

    Good for Alabama, take a stand for God, and against Washington who is trying rule us as a dictator. States has rights and they can keep them if only they will take a stand against Washington.

    • dark477

      I seem to recall a war over “states rights” and your side lost.

  • manderso

    Looks like Alabama still wants to wrap itself in holy cloaks and croak. They will still lose, they always lose.

  • Tom

    Yes, the federal courts do have the constitutional right to take action on state laws which they determine are not in line with the constitution. This has occurred routinely throughout the history of the US. You may not agree but that is how the founding fathers set up the Constitution.
    As for Judge Moore, he has violated the laws concerning what a judge may or may not do while they are sitting on the bench. He may not publicly speak of any on-going case He is not allowed to advise state employees to ignore a ruling by a lawful court. The Federal Circuit Court does have jurisdiction in this issue. This is the current law and will remain so until there is a revision to the Constitution.
    As citizens we have two options: Follow the law or change it. There is no gray area.

    • Gary

      What part of the US Constitution defines marriage? What part of the Constitution authorizes federal judges to define marriage? It is the definition of marriage that is the issue. You need to prove that the federal judges are acting in accordance with the Constitution .

      • Oshtur

        The part that involves contracts, equal access and protection of government, freedom of religion and exercise and even interstate commerce.

        • Gary

          And how is any of that violated by heterosexual-only marriage?
          If you are going to argue it from a religious point of view, and say that the government has to let individuals define marriage according to their religion, then there could be no qualifications for marriage.

          • Oshtur

            Obvious, some in states where only some citizens can license the contract with a male, and some others with a female that is special rights. If any citizens can license with a man the all should, ditto a woman. All citizens being able to do what other citizens can already do in licensing the contract.

            Religion has nothing to do with the contract – if it did my state could have nothing to do with it.

          • Gary

            Not all contracts are legal, even if voluntary. Anyone who meets the qualifications can be legally married. It is only denied to those who cannot qualify. Which is all in accord with the US Constitution.

          • Badkey

            Those qualifications have been challenged and found lacking.

            No rational legal reason for the limitation to opposite genders only in marriage exists.

          • Gary

            The qualifications are fine and totally constitutional. And the thing is, nobody can prove otherwise from the US Constitution.

          • Badkey

            If that were the case you’d be winning.

            In fact, no matter how many times you’ve been asked, you offer no rational legal defense for banning folks of the same gender to marry.

            You’re our ally.

          • Gary

            The rational legal defense is that ssm is not required to be legal by the US Constitution. That means it does not have to be legal.

          • Badkey

            Trying to prove a negative… with no rational defense against the positive.

            Good job Gary! Awesome!

          • Oshtur

            You understand as little about Constitutional law as you do Christianity it seems. You can’t have qualifications that violate federal constitutional rights particularly in a contract involving a fundamental right.

            Again you can contract with a female so can everyone else – there is no difference for there is no male or female in the body of Christ.

          • Gary

            Then you must believe there can be no legal qualifications for marriage.
            And you can drop the pretense. You are not a Christian, and no Christian believes you are.

          • Oshtur

            straw men and talk that makes you Hell bound seems to be all you’ve got.

            Again we already all ow citizens to license the contract with male cosigners and citizens with female cosigners. Letting all citizens do what other citizens can already do is qualitatively different than saying anyone can do what no one can do.

            And denying what comes from God is denying God. One reaso I feel so sorry for you, you talk like the Pharisee and don’t seem to realize it, empty and dead on the inside and condemn yourself to hell with almost every word. May God’s mercy be enough even for the likes of you.

          • Gary

            Would you tell me where in the Bible I can read about God’s endorsement of homosexuality and ssm? If you can do that, then I will admit I have been wrong and become a supporter of both.

          • Oshtur

            Homosexuality is never mentioned in a context where heterosexuality isn’t also wrong and God said that in the body of Christ there is no male or female so Christian couples can marry regardless of their ‘male and female’.

            That’s just it, for those of us under the New Covenant we are told what to do ourselves, sin is not doing that.

          • Gary

            LOL. Your “interpretation ” of the Bible is certainly not orthodox. It is heresy and blasphemy.

          • Oshtur

            And that is the issue, I don’t have to interpret, it says it right there in the original languages heresy and blasphemy is having to ‘interpret’ it to get the hateful answer you want.

          • Gary

            You must be reading a different book than I am reading..

          • Oshtur

            If yours uses the English word ‘homosexuality’ then yeah. That word, the very concept, didn’t exist at the time of the Scriptures penning.

          • Gary

            What we now call homosexuality was known at the time the Scriptures were written. Even as far back as Moses when he wrote the first five books.

          • Oshtur

            Now only specific acts in specific situations were ever mentioned. Again married Christians are fine, the marital bed is undefiled and there is no male or female in the body of Christ – Christians marry just fine regardless of their ‘male or female’.

          • Gary

            “Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.” 1 Corinthians 7:2

  • Dr. Dee Tee

    i just think that americans have mental problems and no matter which side is at fault, always try to force their ways upon others while demanding freedom for themselves.

    federal judges have gone way too far in appeasing homosexuals and have trampled the rights of those who oppose that sinful preference. the will of the people seems to be selective applied and only when the sinful want it

  • thoughtsfromflorida

    Even the Alabama probate judges association disagrees with this guy. What a loon.

  • http://www.1Latham.com/ Dennis C Latham

    yet this very judge has no problem attempting to be against other abominations unto GOD. Like a proud look, a lying tongue, hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet swift to running towards mischief, a false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren … this judge has little or nothing at all to say about those abominations unto GOD – hypocrisy runs deep in him and those who applaud him

    • Gary

      How do you know that Judge Moore is for those things you listed. Now, since you quoted the Bible, let’s see you quote what the Bible has to say about marriage? Can you quote where in the Bible same-sex marriage is endorsed? And if you can’t, then you prove your own hypocrisy.

  • James Grimes

    The Useless are all over this story just like flies are on poop. It seems that whenever there is perversion, there are The Useless. It doesn’t make them right in any way. For my Christian brothers and sisters, I am reminded of the words that the Psalmist writes in Psalm 1: 1-3. Good advice here. “Nor stand in the path of sinners, nor sit in the seat of scoffers!” In other words, stand strong and always do what is right. Justice More is leading by example.

    • Badkey

      The good news? When he’s fired he’ll be denied unemployment.

      • James Grimes

        Geez, another meaningless comment from one of The Useless.

        • Badkey

          The better news? Judges are ignoring him and preparing to issue licenses on Monday.

          Neat, huh?

        • Spoob

          Translation: I hate everyone.

          • James Grimes

            Spoob is a LIAR. He has a compulsion to lie. Not only that, he is a hater. Any Christian with a sound biblical doctrine is a target of his lies and his hate. So, all his comments here are totally meaningless.

          • Spoob

            Grimes, your reputation here for being the angriest Christian on earth has got nothing whatsoever to do with me. You brought that on yourself. Let’s look at facts – you hate homosexuals. I don’t. You hate atheists (you call the “The Useless”). I don’t. You hate Catholics. I don’t. You condemn and judge others to hell and practically drool at the idea of people going there. I don’t.

            Gee, which of us is the hater? Which of us is the liar?

          • Gary

            I thought I was the angriest Christian on earth. James, my congratulations.

          • Spoob

            So it’s a contest then? Guess love and forgiveness are right out, eh?

          • Gary

            I have plenty of love and forgiveness for those who deserve it.

          • Spoob

            The ones in white hoods and sheets, I’m guessing.

          • Oshtur

            See this is what drives me batty you say you are a Christian and must know that we love all whether they ‘deserve it’ or not but then you say stuff like this.

          • Gary

            Since you are not a Christian, nothing I say should bother you.

          • Oshtur

            spɹɐʍʞɔɐq puɐ uʍop ǝpısdn ןןɐ ʇı ǝʌɐɥ noʎ

          • Gary

            That isn’t true either. You really struggle to get anything right.

          • James Grimes

            I laugh at him and his hate. He is insignificant. Haha.

          • Gary

            James does not hate Christians, therefore, he does not hate everyone.

          • Spoob

            James hates everyone who isn’t a Fundamentalist Christian.

    • tyler

      ‘The Useless’ ? is that what you call people who don’t believe exactly what you do?
      I think your God will be mad at you for not being a much better evangelist, and accepting of others.
      I don’t even believe in God or Jesus, but I just told them that you are being a jerk.

      • Gary

        You elevator does not go all the way to the top.

        • tyler

          yours only goes down to the bottom floor.

      • James Grimes

        Am I suppose to be interested in your rant?

        • tyler

          am I supposed to be interested in yours about ‘The Useless’?
          start praying – your God is mad at you for hating and insulting people rather than loving them.

          • James Grimes

            “am I supposed to be interested in yours about ‘The Useless’?” Dude, you commented on what I had said. So yes, you were interested. If you don’t like my comments, just ignore them as I usually do with The Useless.

          • tyler

            don’t flatter yourself dude, your comment about poop and quotes from a 3000 year old goat herder fairy tale book didn’t interest me in the way you’d want it to

          • James Grimes

            “didn’t interest me in the way you’d want it to” Really? Believe me, I gave you absolutely no thought other than that you are a nuisance trolling a Christian site.

            I think we have exhausted anything we want to say. Bye.

          • tyler

            you’re here on your ultra conservative christian site – disrespecting, insulting, and name calling people who don’t believe exactly as you do.
            You define a hypocite. and the way you treat others is a sin. good luck explaining that to your God.

            Have a great day!

          • Gary

            On what basis do you accuse anyone of committing a sin? You don’t believe James’ God even exists, so why would he have to explain anything to someone who does not exist?

          • Badkey

            Come on Gary… I understand your emotions around your marriage are getting aggravated by gay marriage, but what CHANGE has your marriage seen? What CHANGE has anyone’s marriage seen?

          • Spoob

            Tyler, now that Grimes has officially said “good-bye” to you, implying you won’t hear from him again, be sure to keep and eye open because he’s going to continue to diss you to other people.

          • Spoob

            You don’t ignore them Grimes. You fly off the handle and post a childish rant and say you’ll never address them again, and then you do by talking about them to your friends here. I know all your games.

          • pax2u

            little jimmy grimmy is a child, I posted cut and pastes from gary’s own posts and he called them lies, was gary lying about wanting to execute homosexuals and some Catholics, or does jimmy grimmy think that the truth is a lie?

          • Spoob

            Yes, Grimes is very easy to call out. His version of Christianity is a house of cards. It’s all hate and intolerance, no different from the KKK or Westboro loonies.

          • pax2u

            interesting that his insanity is accepted by nieman/fundisi and Jimmy Grimmy because he agrees with their hatred of Catholics

          • Spoob

            Be sure to check the Obama story on the main page, either Grimy or Gary (I mix them up) said that the Crusades were not the fault of the Christians but the Catholics. By far the stupidest thing I have read here, since prior to the Reformation the Catholics (and Orthodox) were the ONLY Christians.

          • pax2u

            their knowledge of history matches their knowledge of theology

    • James Grimes

      I must be correct in what I have said. Several of The Useless, Spoob in particular, have been stalking my comments. That’s OK though. When a Christian tells it the way it is, The Useless come out in force to denounce him. It’s all good.
      In any event, I still support Justice More and what he is trying to do. Whether he is right or wrong, he knows how God has blessed this country at one time and also knows that we are self-destructing. We know who to blame for that, and it isn’t the likes of Justice More.
      For anyone else who wants to heap their vile and disgusting comments on me, go right ahead. Those comments are meaningless. For my dear Christian brothers and sisters who are bemoaning where these losers are taking this country, Jesus promised us a better time with Him. That hope is like gold – something to always be treasured.

      • Badkey

        Actually, your mythology has no bearing on civil law, including marriage. Pointless post was pointless.

      • Spoob

        It isn’t stalking your comments at all, it is that I have no confidence whatsoever that you’re not talking crap about me elsewhere and you don’t have the courage to do it directly in response. So why pray tell did you tell me several weeks ago you were done speaking to me if you’re going to play little games like the one you are playing right now where you lie about me and I don’t immediately see it because you have responded to YOURSELF?

        • pax2u

          I notice how jimmy grimmy posts long rants to himself, very odd, is he answering to that voice in his head? the only “person” who agrees with him? very odd, very sad

          the question is does he then answer himself, or does he disagree with himself, have an argument with himself, and then pout that he will not post to himself anymore?

          • Spoob

            Well like I said, he does that so the person he’s insulting never gets a notification that he/she’s been trashed. It’s a game he plays. Never believe him when he says he’s done talking to you. He loves to fight but is very cowardly about it.

          • pax2u

            I think it may be a multiple personality disorder

          • Spoob

            I can’t begin to explain. He’s so bafflingly stupid. So is Gary, who’s gone all anti-Catholic in the Obama thread.

          • pax2u

            Gary has said that he has guns and wants a revolution against the government, but at the same time wants the government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics

          • Spoob

            And now he says the Crusades were not the fault of the Christians, but the Catholics.

          • pax2u

            maybe Gary supported the Islamic invasion of Europe

          • Spoob

            And what does it say about Grimes that the first mention of his “dear Christian brothers and sisters” is for all his fellow bigots and haters?

          • pax2u

            I have the honor to have made Crazy Gary’s execution list

            pax2u Gary • 11 hours ago

            Gary, you have said that you want the Government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics, have you added any others to your liquidation list?

            Gary pax2u • 7 hours ago

            You are one of the catholics.

            pax2u Gary • 6 minutes ago

            well Gary, so now you want me to be executed,

      • pax2u

        I see I made Crazy Gary’s hit list

        pax2u Gary • 11 hours ago

        Gary, you have said that you want the Government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics, have you added any others to your liquidation list?

        Gary pax2u • 7 hours ago

        You are one of the catholics.

        pax2u Gary • 6 minutes ago

        well Gary, so now you want me to be executed,

        ***************************************************************

        so Jimmy Grimmy

        are you going to be an SS guard at the Fascist Liquidation Camp with Crazy Gary?

        • Spoob

          Grimy re-edited his post above in the hopes that none of his “fans” would see it and respond to him. Have a look.

          • pax2u

            he posts to himself to complain, as Gary wants me to be executed,

      • Spoob

        So your response now is to go back and re-edit your own post WHICH YOU ADDRESS TO YOURSELF to trash all the meanies who oddly take offence to the fact that you spout hate in the name of Christ?

        Now I ask you, Grimes Against Humanity, is that nice? Is it forthright? Is it honest? Is it Christian?

        I hope this post, which exposes your behaviour for all to see, gives you the hearty laugh you claim all my posts give you. My guess is the others won’t be laughing much though. They will likely be shaking their heads and feeling very sorry for you. Because your behaviour is infantile and embarrassing.

        • pax2u

          is he answering that voice in his head?

      • pax2u

        so now you are posting to yourself to complain, boo hoo

        you post to yourself, and say that not everyone here is “our” friend.

        how many personalities are there in your head?

  • Gary

    This issue will be decided by the Supreme Court, although they lack the Constitutional authority to define marriage. But if they side with the homosexuals, they and everyone else should know that Christians, real ones, will never consider ssm as being in any way valid, or legal.

    • Guest

      They aren’t deciding the definition of marriage, they are determining whether current policy is discriminatory toward the gay community. We don’t vote on civil rights, but you knew that.

      • Gary

        I disagree. They are deciding the definition of marriage. The kwiers want to be accepted and have their perversion recognized as being legitimate. That is what this is all about.

        • Badkey

          We’ve been over this.

          The civil contract of marriage is unchanged. The only change you have been able to demonstrate is a change in who can take part in the civil contract.

          The contract itself, and thus the marriage of everyone entered into one, is unchanged.

          • Gary

            Who can take part in marriage is why this is a change in marriage. The change is from heterosexual to asexual. And yet you want to pretend marriage is not being changed. Well, I know better.

          • Badkey

            How has your marriage been changed?

            How as ANYONE’S marriage been changed?

            Answer: they haven’t.

            The contract is the same. Only those who can take part in the contract has changed.

            You can prove nothing otherwise.

          • Oshtur

            I don’t know if you are just being deliberately obtuse or really don’t understand.

            ‘license’ means permission. Getting a marriage license is getting permission to enter into the civil contract of marriage. It is NOT the contract but just the permission. The sexes, ages, how closely related, etc are all limitations on getting license, they are not part of the marriage contract itself.

          • Gary

            It is changing the limitations I object to.

          • Badkey

            Based on what rational grounds?

          • Gary

            You would nave to be rational to understand.

          • Badkey

            If it’s rational, it’ll stand in court.

            Give it a shot. I think you got NOTHING.

          • Gary

            You are assuming all the judges are rational. That is a mistake.

          • Badkey

            LOL!

            Wow… no wonder you’re losing.

            How has your marriage changed?

            How has the marriage of any man and woman changed?

          • Gary

            It has already been explained to you.

          • Badkey

            You’re lying.

            You compared the situation to a college test making your degree not special anymore. That is NOT an example of change.

            How has your marriage changed? How as the marriage of any man and woman changed?

            I understand you don’t want to lose feeling “special” but that isn’t change to your marriage.

          • pax2u

            Gary wants the government to execute homosexuals and while they are at it some of the Catholics

          • Oshtur

            Yes but that isn’t the definition of marriage. That’s part of the problem we and the the courts are talking law and so many are talking something else – emotion, religion which isn’t what will sway a court nor should it.

          • Gary

            Since there is no Constitutional reason to change the limitations, then emotion and religion, or philosophy will be what sways the court.

          • Badkey

            How has your marriage changed?

            How has the marriage of any man and woman changed?

          • Gary

            I’ll answer this way: If you fulfill the requirements for a college degree and receive the degree, but the college decides to give the same degree to someone who never went to class or passed a test, how would you look at your degree?

          • Badkey

            That is not an answer to my question. It demonstrates zero change to the civil contract of marriage.

            How has your marriage changed?

            How has the marriage of any man and woman changed?

          • Oshtur

            Wishful thinking, over 30 courts have found constitutional reasons the limitation is unconstitutional.

          • Gary

            No they have not. They are lying.

          • Oshtur

            No they have found compelling reasons. You can’t just wish them away. Contracts DNS how they are administered is a corner of our legal system.

          • Gary

            You are lying.

          • Badkey

            Come on Gary…

            How has your marriage changed?

            How has the marriage of any man and woman changed?

            You being upset that you ain’t special anymore is not evidence of change.

          • Oshtur

            :sigh: slander will get you no where.

          • Badkey

            Deliberately obtuse.

            He thinks that equals being smart.

    • Badkey

      They’re not defining marriage, only who can take part.

      Poor little Gary…

      Your refusal to consider it “as being in any way valid, or legal” affects nothing… changes nothing… it’s mute anger, nothing more.

      • Gary

        Hey dimwit, when they change who can participate in marriage, they are redefining marriage.

        • Badkey

          If it’s truly redefined, how does marriage between a man and woman change?

          If it’s redefined, there should be a change. What is the change.

          • Gary

            The change is that marriage is no longer heterosexual. It is asexual.

          • Badkey

            And how does that change the benefits, protections, obligations, or immunities that make up the civil contract of marriage? What you identify is not a change to the contract, only who can take part.

            You seem bitter Gary… why is that?

          • Oshtur

            The promises of the civil contract of marriage have been ‘asexual’ for many decades in my state as have those involving the Feds.

        • Oshtur

          Yeah and calling your brother names will be judged. And you are confusing the licensing restrictions of the contract with the promises of the contract itself. Face it you don’t even understand what the issues are. The title of the civil contract could be ‘George’ and sll the relevant legal issues would be the same.

    • tyler

      I’d like to see one thing that Gary says on here that isn’t insulting, hateful, or against equality. How much time in your life do you spend worrying about gay people getting married? You should get a new hobby.

      if you’re a Christian, where are the nice things you do? Not seeing it.

      • Badkey

        You won’t. Hatred, insult, and hostility is all he has.

      • Gary

        There is nothing nice to be said about perverts, or their supporters. I save my nice things to say to and about people who have some morality.

        • Badkey

          Told ya!

          Gary is a powerful ally!!!

          • Oshtur

            Yes the court is concerned about animus and so he gives them all he can muster.

            Doh!!!!

          • Gary

            Why would the court be concerned about animus toward homosexuals by Christians, unless the court’s motive is philosophical/religious/moral, and not simply legal?

          • Oshtur

            Because discrimination that has its roots in hatred is different than discrimination for other reasons.

          • Gary

            And the reason the court wants to protect homosexuals from discrimination from Christians is based in religion/philosophy. They are trying to force people to accept homosexuals. Legalizing ssm is but one ploy in the effort to have homosexuals accepted.

          • Oshtur

            Foolishness. Christianity had its origin in a religiously pluralistic society. It gets along with other religions. It’s the people who are just called themselves Christians but don’t act like it that’s the problem.

          • Gary

            Jesus said to believe on Him, or go to Hell. Kind of intolerant, don’t you think? All non-Christian religions are condemned in the NT. Kind of intolerant, isn’t it? The NT says homosexuals are denied entrance into God’s kingdom. More intolerance.

          • Oshtur

            Actually no. He promised eternal life to His followers and said all are welcome and no one had to follow Him if they didn’t want to, it’s a choice. Again you won’t have to ever marry anyone for any reason you don’t want to and that is enough for a Christian.

          • Gary

            Yes, he promised eternal life to his followers, but those who reject Him have to bear the penalty for their own sins (John 3:18. 36). Jesus also limited marriage to a man and a woman (Mark 10:6-8).

          • pax2u

            Gary, you have said that you want the Government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics, have you added any others to your liquidation list?

          • Gary

            You are one of the catholics.

          • pax2u

            well Gary, so now you want me to be executed,

          • pax2u

            so Gary when do I report to your fascist execution camp, will you be wearing the SS uniform?

          • Magister_militum_praesentalis

            So Catholics deserve to die now because they disagree with you and you think they are categorically non-Christians?

          • Oshtur

            Not eternal life, gotcha. And you are talking about His conversation pre-New Covenant with a bunch of old Covenant men none of whom where in the body of Christ where there is no male or female? Old news and irrelevant to those of us in the body and under the New a Covenant.

          • Gary

            I disagree.

          • Oshtur

            Your right, mine not to agree with you. In any issue of faith I will take the word of God over yours each and every time Gary.

          • Gary

            Your last sentence is untrue.

        • tyler

          I thought Jesus said to love everyone?
          Maybe you’re not going where you were hoping to be going after you die, Gary.. 🙁

          • Gary

            How would I show love to perverts? By endorsing their perversion?

          • tyler

            ask Jesus, he showed love to all.
            It’s not clear whether he even existed though… 🙁

          • Gary

            Come on. If you don’t believe Jesus existed, then quit talking about him as if you know something.

        • tyler

          Jesus hung out with prostitutes

          • Gary

            Are you saying Jesus endorsed prostitution?

          • tyler

            not at all. show me where you think I said that.

            he showed them love.

          • Gary

            How can someone love if they don’t exist?

        • tyler

          morality — so you get it from the bible which condones slavery and stoning children to death for not listening to their parents?

        • Magister_militum_praesentalis

          Do you have nice things to say to Roman Catholics who have morality?

          • pax2u

            watch out, Crazy Gary will add you to his execution list with me

            pax2u Gary • 11 hours ago

            Gary, you have said that you want the Government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics, have you added any others to your liquidation list?

            Gary pax2u • 7 hours ago

            You are one of the catholics.

            pax2u Gary • 6 minutes ago

            well Gary, so now you want me to be executed,

          • Gary

            I could compliment them for their good behavior. If they really have some to compliment.

          • pax2u

            Gary are you building your fascist execution camps?

          • Gary

            Is Jesus a fascist?? He is the one who said some people should be executed.

          • pax2u

            Gary I want as many people as possible to see your hatred and expose you, so since I am a Catholic you want the government to execute me, It will be a pleasure to expose you

            post the scripture where JESUS stated who should be executed by the Government

          • Gary

            Leviticus 20:13

          • pax2u

            Gary, sad that you do not know your Bible, Jesus is the New Covenant of the New Testament

            post the scripture where JESUS stated who should be executed by the Government

          • Gary

            I did. Jesus is God, and He told Moses that certain people should be executed. Do you deny that Jesus is God?

          • pax2u

            sad that you reject the New Testament, the New Covenant,

            will you execute those who eat North Carolina pork BBQ
            do you only observe saturday sabbath?

            post the scripture where JESUS stated who should be executed by the Government

          • Gary

            You really are a dimwit. And you are also an unbeliever. You don’t believe anything that is written in the Bible. But then you’re a catholic.

          • pax2u

            you are a sick hateful and violent fascist crazy gary

            Hebrews 8:13

            In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

          • Gary

            As is typical of unbelievers, you have no clue how to understand the Bible.

          • pax2u

            so you ignore the New Testament, Crazy Gary

            how is the building of your extermination camps going, when do I report you your SS troops

          • Gary

            What proof can you offer that I ignore the NT? Bet you can’t produce a thing.

          • pax2u

            will you execute those who eat North Carolina pork bbq also?

          • Gary

            Where in the Bible does God say to execute pork eaters???

          • pax2u

            you are willing to execute me as a Catholic, where is that in the Bible,

            do you keep all of the Old Testament Laws, Gary, are you a Baptist, or are you now a Hebrew Roots Movement member?

            keep posting crazy gary, your posting is proving useful with your hatred and bigotry of Christians, keep posting

          • Gary

            So you can’t find in the Bible that God said pork eaters should be executed?

          • pax2u

            so you want me executed?

          • pax2u

            are you a Saturday Sabbath keeper? are you now a Seventh Day Adventist?

          • Gary

            I thought you wanted to talk about executing ham eaters. Did not being able to find any evidence God wants them executed make you want to change the subject?

          • pax2u

            Gary do you execute those who are Sunday Sabbath keepers. or just me

          • Gary

            Where in the Bible did God say to execute “Sunday Sabbath keepers”?

          • pax2u

            exodus 31

            14’Therefore you are to observe the sabbath, for it is holy to you. Everyone who profanes it shall surely be put to death; for whoever does any work on it, that person shall be cut off from among his people.

          • Gary

            Then that should settle it.

          • pax2u

            so those who are Sunday Sabbath keepers will be executed with me, is that what you want with your fascist extermination camps?

            you are sick, I ask all Christians here to pray for your eternal soul, you sad little soul, amen

          • Gary

            Do you understand that you are saying that God is “sick” because He said people should be executed for some behavior? You say God is sick, and then you want to pray to Him? Don’t you understand how insane that is?

          • pax2u

            so Gary how will you execute me? will you lynch me like the KKK, or will it be gas in a shower like your fascists?

          • Gary

            What will you say? “God, I think you are a sick fascist to want anyone to be executed, but can you save Gary from wanting the same things you want?”

          • pax2u

            will you lynch me like your kkk, or gas me and put me in the ovens like your fascist nazis?

            you said that you want to have me executed, because I do not agree with your hatred

          • pax2u

            you are sick Gary, and sorry, but you are not God, no matter what that evil voice in your head tells you, seek mental health care, put down your gun, do not harm anyone,

          • Gary

            You are insane. And anyone who reads your posts can easily see it.

          • pax2u

            I pray for you and your anger

          • pax2u

            who else here do you want to have executed Gary?

          • pax2u

            pax2u Gary • 11 hours ago

            Gary, you have said that you want the Government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics, have you added any others to your liquidation list?

            Gary pax2u • 7 hours ago

            You are one of the catholics.

            pax2u Gary • 6 minutes ago

            well Gary, so now you want me to be executed,

          • pax2u

            Gary did you not keep the Old Testament Sabbath, or do you keep the new testament, the new covenant Sunday Sabbath?

          • pax2u

            Jesus is the God of the New Testament

          • Oshtur

            And unless you were Jewish you were never under the Old Covenant to begin with.

          • pax2u

            odd that crazy gary wants to use the old testament as he follows his fascist hero Gen Butler, and wants the government to execute those who he hates

          • Gary

            And the God of the Old Testament..

          • pax2u

            Hebrews 8:13
            In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

          • Oshtur

            So you are Jewish? Christians are under the New Covenant and most never under the Old unless they have a maternal lineage to the family of Abraham.

          • pax2u

            Crazy Gary rejects the Love and Mercy of Jesus Christ

            as he wants the government to execute those who he hates

          • Gary

            You are damned by God, and the pope can’t help you.

          • pax2u

            are you a Saturday Sabbath keeper?

          • pax2u

            I am damned by you, but not by God,

            I am sorry crazy gary, you are not God

          • pax2u

            watch out Gary will add you to his execution list too

            pax2u Gary • 11 hours ago

            Gary, you have said that you want the Government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics, have you added any others to your liquidation list?

            Gary pax2u • 7 hours ago

            You are one of the catholics.

            pax2u Gary • 6 minutes ago

            well Gary, so now you want me to be executed,

          • pax2u

            Hebrews 8:13
            In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

          • Gary

            Are you saying that everything God commanded in the OT is now void?

          • pax2u

            read your Bible

            Hebrews 8:13
            In speaking of a new covenant, he makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.

          • Gary

            So you are saying that what God said in the OT no longer applies? Just to be clear.

          • pax2u

            Gary when are you going to execute me?

          • pax2u

            when do I report to your fascist execution camp? gary

          • pax2u

            Gary are you a Saturday Sabbath only keeper?

          • Magister_militum_praesentalis

            Oh, how nice of you. Too bad, in your estimation, that they those same Catholics are not Christians and are going to Hell. Cold comfort.

          • Gary

            Isn’t their being catholic their choice?

          • Magister_militum_praesentalis

            LOL! Like asking that question justifies anything.

          • Gary

            You mean God isn’t just to put unbelievers in Hell?

          • Magister_militum_praesentalis

            That is a loaded question since I do not believe that Catholics are non-Christians by virtue of them being Catholic.

          • Gary

            I see. I’m going to have to disagree with you about that.

          • Spoob

            Well then, you are also disagreeing with history books and even the dictionary. Don’t you think you need to concede defeat once in a while? I mean, when you are even telling the dictionary it is wrong, isn’t it clear that you have something mentally wrong with you?

          • Gary

            The people who wrote the dictionary are probably ignorant about what being a Christian means. I have found that lots of people don’t know the truth about that.

          • Spoob

            There you have it, folks. Gary knows better than the people who wrote the dictionary.

          • Gary

            The people who wrote the dictionary are probably not Christians, since most people are not, so yeah, in this case I probably do know better than them about Christianity.

          • Spoob

            Well, there is nothing more to be said. I will just let that comment of yours sit and fester and let everyone read it in disbelief.

          • Gary

            You don’t believe the Bible, but you believe everything written in a dictionary? uh huh.

        • Badkey

          You poor dear…

          • pax2u

            watch out Gary will add you to his execution list too

            pax2u Gary • 11 hours ago

            Gary, you have said that you want the Government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics, have you added any others to your liquidation list?

            Gary pax2u • 7 hours ago

            You are one of the catholics.

            pax2u Gary • 6 minutes ago

            well Gary, so now you want me to be executed,

  • Badkey
  • William Tyndale

    Dixie rises again. God bless Judge Moore.

    • Badkey

      Dixie will see more gay marriages on Monday! The judges have declined Moore’s suggestion and are receiving their new marriage licenses today.

      It’s all TOO cool!!!

      • James Grimes

        As I had said, “The Useless are all over this story just like flies are on poop. It seems that whenever there is perversion, there are The Useless”

        • Badkey

          And gay marriage will still go forward on Monday in Alabama… so you’re about as useless as they come, sweetcheeks.

        • Spoob

          Shall we start calling you “The Worthless”? Since your value as a hateful bigoted “Christian” is nil.

          • pax2u

            Jimmy Grimmy will be with Gary making a list for the government to execute homosexuals and some Catholics

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            Hey, did you know that Catholics are apostate, homosexuals are an abomination and that James Grimes and Gary are broken records?!

          • pax2u

            are you making a list of who to execute also?

          • MattFCharlestonSC

            I’m not nearly good enough a christian to come up with a list like that.

          • pax2u

            as a Catholic Christian I would not make a list at all

        • tyler

          that’s funny – I thought you Christians are supposed to be kind and recruit people – not call them ‘The Useless’.
          I think other Christians would not be happy with you saying that.
          How about I send all your insults and hatred to your pastor and see what he thinks?

        • Magister_militum_praesentalis

          It would be refreshing to see you make rational arguments from historical evidence and biblical exegesis rather than constantly appealing to this dismissive “The Useless.”

  • Badkey

    So… Gary’s view of his own marriage is changed due to his animosity towards gay people people getting married. He views it as somehow less than it was.

    He claims this is a change to his marriage.

    Does anyone else see the flaw in that logic?

  • Truthhurts24

    This Judge will be blessed by God for standing up for truth even if he gets persecuted by the satanic government.

    • Spoob

      What a thoroughly wacko thing to say.

      • Truthhurts24

        Only to tares like you that likes wickedness

        • Spoob

          I don’t like wickedness, I hate stupidity.

          • Truthhurts24

            Your own

          • Spoob

            No, the hate and fear and stupidity of fundamentalists and conspiracy theorists.

          • Gary

            So what? Your opinions matter to you, but who else cares?

          • Spoob

            Go wash your white sheets and hood, Gary.

          • Truthhurts24

            So obama is doing a great job with this country in your mind right and Islam is a peaceful relgion

          • Spoob

            Obama is doing a great job and there are violent idiots hiding in both Islam and Christianity.

          • Truthhurts24

            Wow thats all I need to know you said enough what a drone

          • Spoob

            Refreshing eh? No hate or judging.

          • Truthhurts24

            So Obama is doing a great job in your mind right and Islam is a peaceful religion.

  • Opus35

    One more reason the South will not rise again.

  • UnreconstructedRebel

    It was for good reason that the Law of Moses prescribed capital
    punishment for sodomy. A society that is forced to entertain the twisted absurdities these degenerate,
    mentally disturbed perverts in order to defend the sanctity of marriage, has a moral
    sickness in its soul and a disease in its mind. If we don’t put a stop to
    this madness, we don’t deserve to survive as a civilization.

    • Gary

      Well said.

    • Spoob

      If we had those laws today, you would be executing more straight people than gay people, since many straight couples engage in sodomy. Still think it’s a good idea? I can see Gary is a fan, but your Christian supremacist bloodlust must have at least a few more takers here.

      • Gary

        In the Bible, sodomites are homosexuals.

        • Spoob

          Where’s the definition in the Bible?

          • UnreconstructedRebel

            Lev 18:22

          • Spoob

            That is not a definition of sodomy.

          • UnreconstructedRebel

            Perhaps you have a reading deficiency, or lack access to a Bible or are unusually obtuse. It’s pretty clear, it refers to sexual relations between two men.

          • Spoob

            I don’t get definitions from the Bible, I get them from the dictionary. My dictionary says that sodomy is sexual intercourse done anally. It says nothing about being between two men.

          • Gary

            If you do a word search for “sodomite” in the Bible that will shed some light. But I’m sure you will still deny the Biblical use of the word.

          • Spoob

            I deny definitions that are wrong, Gary.

          • UnreconstructedRebel

            The dictionary does not define what is right and wrong in the eyes of God. His Word, the Bible does that, and it defines relations between two men as an abomination.

  • Jo Ann

    The mentality is not the same. Adam and Eve taught us that.

  • BarkingDawg

    “Lower federal courts are without authority to impose their own interpretation of federal constitutional law upon the state courts,”

    It’s sad when the chief justice of the state supreme court turns out to be a bald faced liar.

  • HisChild

    This man took a (good) stand. Let’s keep him covered in prayer!

  • Joe McCarthy was right

    Judge Roy Moore to the Supreme Court, and Sheriff Joe Arpaio for Attorney General

  • Paul Louis Hinz

    If proud of you your honor!

  • Loretta McMichael

    THIS IS NOT ABOUT SAME SEX MARRIAGE THIS IS ABOUT OBAMA TAKING THE USA ~ HE NEEDS PPL TO BACK HIM ~ DOESN’T ANYONE FIND IT STRANGE THIS IS HAPPING NOW ~ HE IS STIRRING THINGS SO EVERY ONE WILL TURN AGAINST EACH OTHER

  • ed_dAVAO

    Let them marry in as many court as they want, but not in the church. The Church has its own rule. And the state should uphold that faithful’s right.

  • Scott

    Listen, it comes down to this. Marriage is a religious thing. Not a gov’t thing. Gays do not care about the religious part of being married. They want to be treated fairly in the eyes of the law. Being able to make health care decisions, have family health insurance, file their taxes as married. People, gays and hetero, will love who they want, regardless of whether they are married or not. That is the law of the heart.

  • Wayne1212

    Time to disbar this judge. If he wants to live in a theocracy let him move to the Middle East, or start his own country.

  • Wayne Neva

    When will Michigan do this?