‘Love Not Limited?’: Three Thailand Men ‘Marry’ Each Other, Photos Go Viral

ThailandPhotos of three Thailand men who recently ‘married’ each other have gone viral, garnering societal support for the concept of same-sex “throuples” worldwide, but also generating remarks from Christians about the confirmation of the slippery slope that has long been predicted.

The men, who have only been identified as Joke, Belle and Art Thani, reportedly participated in a traditional water-pouring ceremony on Feb. 15 and had photographs taken of their union. However, the act was more of a symbolic gesture as neither homosexuality or polygamy are legal in Thailand.

“Love occurs unconditionally and is not limited to only two people,” Art wrote on Facebook. “Love brings peace to the world.”

The threesome has also been featured on Thailand television, and have posted affectionate photos online which include captions such as, “The three of us will forever hold hands and walk together.”

One Facebook post received over 50,000 likes regarding the three-way relationship.

As previously reported, last May, three women in Massachusetts exchanged vows as they claimed to be the world’s first lesbian “throuple.” Brynn, Doll, and Kitten stated that they view their relationship as a “romantic committee,” where the household responsibilities are allocated between the three of them, and wanted to each get pregnant using anonymous sperm donors.

“I had always dated girls, who—although they had boyfriends or girlfriends—were also allowed to date me,” Brynn told reporters. “I never thought that much about it and I had never really come out as poly to my friends and family. To me, it was just how I was.”

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But after this month’s report out of Thailand, some Christians are noting the inevitable slippery slope that they have stated would result if society deviated from God’s creation order.

“The events in Thailand simply confirm what we’ve been saying all this time: If marriage is no longer the union of one man and one woman, then it can be anything: Two men, two women, three men, three women, or an almost infinite number of other possibilities,” Dr. Michael Brown wrote for Charisma News.

He noted that the situation demonstrates how mankind has made up its own rules along the way in an attempt to legitimize and justify what a particular person wants. Since homosexuals have stated that marriage should be defined as the union of two people who have feelings for each other, regardless of gender, where does the rule about two people come from?

“If a gay activist says, ‘But marriage is the loving, long-term commitment of two people,’ the answer is simple: ‘Says who? That’s just your new definition. Where did you get the idea it was two people if not from its historic, natural meaning?'” Brown explained. “And so, if I’m ‘bigoted’ because I don’t recognize same-sex ‘marriage,’ then gay activists (and their allies) are just as ‘bigoted’ if they don’t recognize three men (or women) ‘marrying.’

He said that last year, he was asked to participated in a debate surrounding whether consensual adult incest should be legalized. Brown recalled that he was the only one on the panel that said that such relationships are never okay in the eyes of God.

“All the other participants, including a professor and a psychoanalyst, advocated for removing the laws against consensual adult incest,” he stated. “Are you surprised? But what’s the problem? Love is love [according to society], right? As long it’s consensual, who can say no to love?”

Brown stated that these developments are demonstrating the domino effect that results when the world rebels against God and His Master design for mankind.

“Those who have taken down the fence of marriage as God intended it have opened up a Pandora’s Box of possibilities,” he said, “none of them good.”


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  • Badkey

    They all look like consenting adults to me.

    • Paul Hiett

      And while I agree that they are consenting adults, polygamy is something I do disagree with. Too many loopholes, too many methods people can use to abuse the legal system, tax system, citizenship, etc. Furthermore, the issues that arise from parenting in these multi-spouse situations creates more harm than good.

      I am all for marriage equality, but polygamy I do not feel falls into that category.

      • Badkey

        I understand. In this case, there is no government recognition. It’s merely ceremony.

        • The Last Trump

          Gee, what else had it’s nasty little beginnings that way?….

          • Badkey

            Why are you so worked up about it?

            How is it going to harm you? Change your marriage?

          • The Last Trump

            ? Who’s worked up? Silly sexually confused one.
            I’m not the LGBT troll on a Christian website who’s posted 8 TIMES already! Good luck with your converts “sister”!

          • Badkey

            Sweetie, I’m not here to convert anybody.

            I’m here to watch Gary and his ilk as they lose.

            Nothing more.

          • The Last Trump

            Sure do talk a lot for somebody here to “watch”.
            One of “those” too, are we? Hee, hee.
            And watch you should. So very afraid that the Christians won’t go along with your twisted little parades and manage to change the laws back again, eh? How terrible for you to be so fearful that you simply cannot tear yourself away from this Christian website!
            Too cute. “Sweetie”.

          • Badkey

            It’s fun.

            What more can I say.

            Afraid? Hardly… what’s there to be afraid of?

            I don’t got to parades, btw… sorry.

          • The Last Trump

            Too busy monitoring the Christians, huh?
            Understandable. Take care! 🙂

      • Gary

        If you are not for polygamy, and any other form of marriage, then you are not for marriage equality.

        • Badkey

          Blame straight people… they started it.

        • jjgrandisland

          We are for responsible marriage, one which does not damage or burden society but helps it. So how are people like you doing? I actually wonder who pays for the judge and court officers to rule on Rush Limbaugh’s three divorces? Who is paying for the responsible octet mom? How about the family that has 19 children? Heck…I have trouble paying for two? Who is shouldering this burden?

          • Gary

            The problems with heterosexual marriage do not justify ssm, polygamy, or any other arrangement.

          • jjgrandisland

            Actually it does. Because when you are in the majority and you are pontificating from your “ivory tower” you better have you own house in order. If not, the rest of just laugh at you.

      • TheBBP

        “I’m all for marriage equality, except for when I do not agree with it.” LOL… that’s good stuff.

        • The Last Trump

          Yes, these trolls are too much! Can’t wait until the public school system aggressively goes after THEIR children to openly engage in orgies, I mean, the most recent definition of “marriage”.
          Shouldn’t be too much longer until animals and children are included. As long as it’s consensual, it’s moral today!

      • http://bbcatholics.blogspot.com/ OneBreadOneBody

        Technically it is not polygamy: one man, more than one wife. Nor is it polyandry: one woman, more than one husband. Closest I can come up with is homosexual polyandry. Doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue (no pun intended). I’m sure our depraved culture will come up with some catchy “gay” name. Maybe golyandry. (Golly!)

        • jjgrandisland

          Sorry…heterosexuals came up with polygamy and polyandry long ago. You have been really good teachers…and really good at attacking gays and lesbians for things you have been doing for thousands of years. Very classy.

          • The Last Trump

            You are exactly right. ALL people are at risk of sexual immorality.
            That’s why Christians had good laws in place to guard against it.
            Including homosexuality. Thank you for bringing to light this simple truth. It doesn’t matter who you THINK you “love” or how MANY of them there are!

          • jjgrandisland

            And you are thinking two guys being together is sexual immorality? Based on what standards? You mean your interpretation of your faith? What about my faith? I do not find immoral. But I guess you are right…you don’t care about my faith just evangelizing yours.

          • http://bbcatholics.blogspot.com/ OneBreadOneBody

            I was simply commenting in what I assumed most people would take as a humorous manner. There isn’t a simple term to describe this relationship and I was using that fact to frame a mildly sarcastic observation of the current culture. If you can come up with a better one please feel free.

      • jjgrandisland

        You mean similar to the way heterosexuals have created loopholes new ways and methods to abuse the legal system, tax system, citizenship etc. How about how efficiently you seem to marry, procreate, divorce and then abandon your spawn, many times leaving the public to clean up your mess.

      • lynn

        You just got yourself. LOL

    • Peter Leh

      that is the key

  • Gary

    Once the definition of marriage is changed from one man and one woman, all kinds of combinations become possible. And inevitable. If one cannot limit marriage to one man and one woman, then marriage cannot be limited.

    • Paul Hiett

      When you wake up and realize that other opinions, which is all a religion is, have just as much merit as yours, you’ll realize that all of your hate is for nothing.

      • Gary

        All ideas and beliefs are not equal, and not all true. And you don’t believe all religions have merit. You have a disdain for Christianity, so you regard other religions as being better. And all that hatred you have for Jesus Christ is only going to bring you tragedy.

        But what about the point of the article? What are the valid reasons for limiting marriage to two people?

    • Badkey

      Sweetie, it’s this marriage has no legal recognition.

      You poor little thing.

      • Gary

        But it will, if ssm becomes legal.

        • Badkey

          ROFLOL!!!

          Your fear is so funny.

          While I’m aware and agree with the arguments against recognizing such relationships legally, I don’t see why you are so offended by it.

          • Gary

            There are no valid arguments against recognizing such relationships legally, if ssm is made legal. But the lack of a valid argument won’t prevent the out of control judges from not legalizing it.

          • Badkey

            You obviously have no idea what the full legal benefits, immunities, and protections of marriage are.

          • Gary

            Yes, I do. Those have been in place since legal marriage began in the US.

          • Badkey

            OK… I’ll bite.

            How many have been legally specified?

          • Badkey

            Oh, and on a PERSONAL level, I couldn’t care less. More power to ’em.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            How would allowing two people of the same gender to enter into marriage be a basis for allowing more than two people to enter into marriage?

            You seem to be suggesting that changing any law regarding who is allowed to marry whom, results in the necessity of allowing any type of marriage. If that were the case, then when laws were changed to allow interracial marriage, all forms of marriage would then be allowed. That is clearly not the case.

        • jjgrandisland

          Not in your lifetime my friend. It took gays and lesbians sixty years to get to the steps of the SCOTUS. It will take many for these men too. Heck SSM marriage is not legal in their country yet. So chill out and don’t worry about it. Focus more on heterosexual marriages…the terrible divorce rate and the abandonment of children. Now that is something to worry about.

          • Gary

            Why not? And why not soon? I think you are naïve to think it won’t happen within the next few years.

          • jjgrandisland

            Oh…I think people like you will find a way to slow down the process. Now remember you are not allowed to burn them at the stake or hang them from trees, or drag them from a bumper of your cars. Those are no-no’s in todays society.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Is there any country where same-gender marriage is legal that has also legalized polygamy or other forms of marriage since the legalization of same-gender marriage?

        • Paul Hiett

          God your ignorance knows no bounds.

          • Gary

            I am much more intelligent, and better educated than are you.

          • Badkey

            You are outdated, under educated, brainwashed and very very paranoid.

          • Paul Hiett

            Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha…

    • Douglas

      Gary, I’m sorry for going off topic but I was wondering what happened to the others who are usually hanging around here such as James Grimes and Fundisi? I found it odd that they both have disappeared and wondered if I had missed something. Do you happen to know anything about this?

      • Gary

        I don’t know. Sorry.

      • The Last Trump

        Fundisi had his comments removed a little while ago and hasn’t been back since. At least, not as Fundisi anyway. Not sure if he’s around with a new name.
        James stopped posting couple weeks ago as well. Needed a break from all the trolls or on vacation maybe? We’ll just have to keep an eye out.

      • WorldGoneCrazy

        Yes, I noticed this too and, of course, miss their fine postings. On the other hand, everyone needs a sabbatical from time to time – especially with the Gaystapo prowling about.

        • Douglas

          Yes, I actually took a break myself. When I came back, the comment section had less familiar names than it use to. I don’t comment much but even reading the comments on here can be frustrating at times.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Do keep in mind that not all of the a-theists who comment here are mockers. Some are seekers, but come across a little rough. I don’t really have much trouble with the a-theists: they are supposed to be in darkness and can’t help it. Many are trying to grapple with a source for objective truth. I have been there not so many years ago and have much compassion for them. It’s not easy searching on that side of the fence.

            The ones I cannot stand are the so-called “Christians” who deny everything the Bible says to support their sinful desires. If they are going to share the same worldview as the a-theists, why don’t they have the courage to just call themselves a-theists?!? Same thing for the cheap grace “Christians.”

          • Gary

            I have much more tolerance for atheists than I do for fake Christians.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            And certainly much more for the Atheists than gay people, who you think should be killed.

    • Elizabeth Lorraine Mcvicker

      Can we get anymore depraved. It turns my stomach.

      • jjgrandisland

        How does this affect you? I feel for these guys as they will certainly have a lot of hurdles to overcome when it comes to jobs, benefits, and legal entanglements. I think they will have a very long road ahead of them. As does polygamy in the USA.

      • gatekeeper96740

        They have brother sister marriage in Australia. They have father daughter marriage in America. Gross. Anything goes.

        When the Son of Man comes again, it will be exactly like the days of Noah.

        • John

          Didn’t they already have these types of marriages that you state above in the Bible? Cain and sister, Abraham and Sarah, Lot and daughters? Or multiple wives like King David and Solomon?

          • Betty Lou Schwartz

            Cain and sister? what are you talking about?

          • John

            Didn’t all people come from Adam and Eve? Who else was alive at that time? Even though the Bible is usually just concerned with naming the males, Adam and Eve must have also had daughters?

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Well, not us. We all came from Noah and his wife and their kids.

      • thoughtsfromflorida

        I’m not sure, Elizabeth. Can you get anymore depraved?

    • jjgrandisland

      We cannot predict where societies will go on this issue. Heck we stopped treating women like chattel and second class citizens.

      • Gary

        I think we can predict it. If heterosexual-only marriage goes away, then it will open the possibilities for a lot of things that have heretofore been unthinkable. Anyone who supports ssm can’t offer a rational reason to oppose any other arrangement.

        • Badkey

          Always be afraid, Gary… always be afraid.

          How’s that gay marriage in NC? Harmed you yet?

          • Gary

            It seems the only thing about marriage you fear is that there will be any rules regarding it. Well, some of us have more wisdom than do you.

          • Badkey

            Yeah, maybe… but you’re losing.

          • Paul Hiett

            Ah yes, “wisdom”…blindly following a book written over 2000 years ago. Tell us more about your wisdom!!

          • Gary

            Wisdom is something with which you are unfamiliar.

          • Rose

            It’s just as valid as a particle exploding and making the universe

        • jjgrandisland

          Can you explain to me how two dudes getting hitched will in any way effect heterosexual only marriages. If you cant think of one maybe I can help. These two guys wont have to pay higher taxes and take less benefits than they did before. See up to now they have been subsidizing you, your wife and your spawn. Think before you respond…think carefully.

    • John

      If we always limit marriage to two adult people who are not related, then we would solve the issue? That way innocent people who were born gay can have a partner to share their life with.

    • Truthhurts24

      Just goes to show what Christ said was true iniquity shall increase and the love of many shall wax cold.

  • bowie1

    They usually say three’s a crowd. Many have wandered far from what God has ordained in the beginning!

    • Paul Hiett

      Of course, your choice of a religion is not everyone’s, so this might not be against their religion.

      • bowie1

        I reckon so!

      • The Lone Ranger

        You dear sir don’t know the difference between religion, and I agree you have a choice between religions . And salvation, a personal experience with a supernatural God that is only found through Faith.
        Hebrews 11:6
        But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. ……God, dear sir is not a religion but a truth you don’t have a choice of what is or is not true it is what it is …..John 14:6 [Full Chapter]

        Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. ….You sound like your intelligent how is it your so ignorant and vacant of truth , and what the Bible says ? You don’t have to believe it , to read it , it does not take that long to read the first five chapters of the New Testament . At least you would not put on public display your ignorance between religion and Truth

        • Paul Hiett

          Did you just use the Bible as proof of the Bible? I don’t quite think you know how this works.

          By the way, if you’re going to insult someone’s intelligence, do so with proper grammar and spelling.

  • Edsel Chan

    Looks like the “Sodom/Gomorrah” spirit is now hovering the earth. It’s quite alarming so we need to intercede now and then.

    • Paul Hiett

      What do you mean by “intercede”?

    • John

      Read Judges 19: same story as Sodom/Gomorrah but did gay men really rape a woman to death? How many times have you read that a gay man has raped a women?

  • Tim Jackson

    This is sick.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Thailand suffers from major child prostitution for the longest time. The villains are both domestic and foreign. Pray for national repentance.

    • Peter Leh

      well, grace we finally have something to agree on. 🙂

  • Iris Allen

    Sick perverted threesome, no love there, just lust and sliding down that slippery slope. Stop trying to make perverts normal, they are so sick

    • Paul Hiett

      I can feel your hatred from here. Not a fun way to go through life.

  • Frank

    Since gays want the word marriage. It’s technically just a word with sounds and letters. Christians and every other person and religion that holds true to the real and only definition of marriage as defined by The Creator to be between a man and woman should adopt a new word for marriage. Each language has their own word for it so it’s sounds and letters. If they want to have some perverted definition for a word, then we should just grab a new word with the correct definition, the logical sane definition.

    • Gary

      I might agree with you, Frank, but for one thing: God calls the union of a man and a woman marriage. It is called marriage in the Bible. I don’t think we should give up the word. I think we should try to get the government to use another term for the legal union of two, or more, perverts. It is intolerable that they should use the word “marriage” for what they are doing. Christians certainly don’t accept what the perverts are doing as marriage.

      • Paul Hiett

        Because, you know, marriage didn’t exist before Christianity!!!!

        • Gary

          Marriage has existed since Adam and Eve. Now you have been told the truth, and you need not make any more ignorant comments about when marriage began.

          • Badkey

            There are centuries and centuries of human history before the myth of Adam and Eve.

            You’re such a gullible little thing.

            I pity you.

          • Gary

            You are a fool.

          • Paul Hiett

            You really think Adam and Eve were real? That somehow all of the races and cultures around the world sprang from a small family that somehow managed to land a boat on top of a mountain in Turkey?

            None of that raises even the tiniest question in your mind?

          • Gary

            I believe the Bible. You will believe anything but the Bible.

          • Paul Hiett

            I believe the facts. You refuse to accept the facts. There’s a difference.

            Do you somehow think that the entire world has been following the Christian religion since the dawn of time? How can you possibly believe that the word “marriage” is somehow a Biblical creation?

          • Gary

            What evidence exists that you accept facts? If God did not make people, then why are they here?

          • Paul Hiett

            Ignorance is never, and will never be, proof of any deity.

          • Gary

            Wrong. If God had not made people, you would not be here to display your ignorance.

          • Paul Hiett

            Which god? Your god? Why does it have to be your god? It could have been one of thousands, so why aren’t you at least giving them credit as the possible “creator”??

            Oh that’s right, you’re too narrow minded in your view of the world. You think Christianity is the only “real” religion in the world today, and that the billions of people who believe something else are all too stupid to know the truth.

          • Gary

            The list of possible Creators of the universe and of life is very short. it had to be someone who already existed, and who had the ability to create everything out of nothing. Who qualifies to be on the list?

          • Paul Hiett

            No, Gary, it doesn’t. You act like we, as a species, have all the answers because someone put pen to paper about 2000 years ago and wrote down some oral tales that had been handed down for generations. Those of us with any intelligence understand that we don’t know the answers…and barring a deity coming down and proving it, we never will.

            You act like you know what gods existed (as if there were any, lol) and that you alone know what “powers” they have. You’re hilarious in this…you have no more clue about the origins of the universe/life than anyone else, but you’re dangerous because you only subscribe to the Bible, something that refuses to change in light of facts constantly proving it wrong.

            There is nothing more ignorant than a YEC.

            You seriously need to learn what the “god of the gaps” argument is, and why it fails so definitively.

          • Gary

            Since you believe the Bible is wrong, you should have evidence to prove it. Instead, you admit that you don’t know. If you don’t know, then it means your rejection of the Bible is not based on any proof, but is the result of your factless prejudice. You don’t want the Bible to be true, and you are willing to believe anything else instead of it. Even if what you believe is impossible.

          • Paul Hiett

            1. The world has never been flooded. Never. Not once. The proof of this is in the geographical layers of strata. That proves the Flood story to be untrue.

            2. There were never Jewish slaves in Egypt. Ever. That proves that Exodus could have never happened.

            There’s two pieces of evidence proving the Bible wrong. There are more, but I think that should suffice.

            Regardless, it’s not up to me to prove the Bible wrong, it’s up to you to prove it right. It’s up to all followers of all religions to prove theirs to be correct. This is the burden of those who claim the positive.

            But see, you’re a YEC, which means you lack the ability to think for yourself, or accept facts that prove your religious text wrong. Furthermore, I’m not prejudiced against your Bible, I just don’t believe anything in it is true, because nothing in it can be proven.

          • Gary

            I refuse to waste time trying to prove the Bible is true to you. I know what is going to happen to you, but I don’t care. So you believe whatever you want, and I will too.

          • Paul Hiett

            That’s because you can’t, Gary. Heck, even most Christians know the Bible can’t be proven true…that’s why it’s called “Faith”.

            You really need to get out more.

          • Gary

            We all have the choice to believe what people have seen, heard, and said from the past. I believe Jesus Christ was real for the same reason I believe George Washington, Ben Franklin and Abe Lincoln were real. I believe all were real people from history.

          • Paul Hiett

            No one is claiming that George, Ben, and Abe were the son of a god, though. Slight difference there.

          • Gary

            Yes, there is a difference. We either believe the record, or we don’t.

          • Paul Hiett

            So…you’re saying that the records of Jesus being real (the only source is the Bible) and the records of those people existing are the same?

          • Gary

            The only difference is that the records of Jesus existence are older.

          • Paul Hiett

            I have heard that people like you existed. To actually be talking to one is amazing.

          • Gary

            Either you don’t know what is true, or you just don’t want to believe the truth.

          • Paul Hiett

            I’ve already admitted I don’t know the truth. You seem to have a hard time doing that.

            There’s a difference between “believing” and “knowing”. I don’t think you understand the difference.

          • Gary

            Fine. I have no problem with your saying you don’t know the truth. But don’t then turn around and say that something is not true. You have to know what is true in order to know what is not true.

          • Paul Hiett

            No, Gary, you don’t have to know the truth in order to know something isn’t true.

            As I showed you earlier, there is incontrovertible evidence that proves that Exodus and the Flood are stories in the Bible that did not happen. We know this.

            Now, does that prove that “God” does not exist? No, but it does prove that some of the stories in the Bible could not have happened as they were written.

          • Frank

            Lol yea the magical poof machine put all the oysters at the top of mountains because the poof machine wanted there not to be any proof of a flood. Like wowzers. And maybe some other diminutive crayon drawing robot set all the drawings of Jewish slaves in Egypt and other such writing so there wouldn’t be any proof… Like totally.

          • Paul Hiett

            I’m guessing the words “plate tectonics” probably mean very, very little to you.

            As for the Jews in Egypt..sorry Frank, but facts are facts. Google is your friend. Learn something today.

          • Frank

            Yup all those oysters at the tops of mountains got their magically by some poof machine. And all those drawing and other historical writing of the Jewish slaves were all created by crayon touting people to prove it never happened… What was I thinking..

          • Paul Hiett

            Are you really not aware of how plate tectonics work?

            Oh, that’s right, it’s science, so you probably wouldn’t have a clue.

            As for the Jewish slaves, again, I point to Google again. Try it, it’s pretty cool. It’ll list out all sorts of web pages related to whatever you type in. Then, you can actually learn something by reading…unless you consider reading a “science”, then I imagine you probably won’t find Google helpful at all.

            Sorry Frank, but the facts remain…Jews were never enslaved by Egypt. I can provide you with many websites proving it. Can you provide a single, non religious website to back up your claim?

          • Frank

            Wow you must believe Abraham Lincoln was the first President.

          • Paul Hiett

            Yes, Frank, that’s what I believe. You figured it all out.

          • Badkey

            The funny part? In order to actually believe in Adam and Eve, you must also accept the fact that our entire race is the result of incest.

            That is So funny!

          • Paul Hiett

            And that the Aboriginals of Australia, the Pygmies of Africa, and the Norsemen from northern Europe all sprang from Noah’s family.

      • Frank

        In the bible the word is different in Hebrew and Koine Greek, the original languages of the Bible. Marriage is an English word translated from those words. Translated from dead languages which means the meaning of the words do not change. So while I agree we should not give up the word on one hand as gays new definition of the word is not the word. I also think we should let them have that word and just have a new word that has the true definition. They can never be truly married anyways and it’s letters and sounds. So why not take a stand with a new word of letters and sounds as well as keeping up the stance for the letters and sounds of marriage and it’s meaning. Two pronged stance. Sneak around the back while they are looking for the front assault. In a sense use their redefining tactic against them.

        • Paul Hiett

          You do know that people have been getting “married” around the world for thousands of years, without ever even hearing of the Bible?

        • Badkey

          It’s not up to you… or the mythology you’ve chosen to follow.

          • Frank

            You still don’t get it.

        • thoughtsfromflorida

          What word would you suggest, Frank? How about “pendingdivorce”

      • Badkey

        Your god does not matter.

        • Gary

          You are going to find that God does matter. God will have a great impact on your future.

          • Paul Hiett

            Since all “gods” have the same chance of being real, I think I’ll go with Odin. Valhalla seems like so much more fun!!!

          • Gary

            No, all gods do not have the same chance of being real. That cannot be true. But you would rather believe in any “god” than to believe in Jesus Christ. The reason is, you love your sins and you want to hope that no one will hold you accountable for them. You are irrational.

          • Paul Hiett

            Yes, Gary, all mythical deities have the same infinitesimally small chance of being real. If you can’t provide any proof at all of your deity being real, then you have no recourse but to accept this fact.

          • Gary

            Wrong. Only beings who actually are real have ANY chance of being real. Mythological beings can never be real, therefore, they never are. You have offered no facts for me to accept.

          • Paul Hiett

            “Only beings who actually are real have ANY chance of being real.”

            You actually said this. I mean…for real…you actually, really said this out loud.

            I don’t know if I should feel sad for you, or laugh at you, or both.

            Just…wow.

          • Gary

            Do you believe Bugs Bunny was, or is, an actual rabbit? What about Goofy? Is he a real dog? Is Daffy Duck real? What about Santa? Did he come to your house last Christmas?

          • Paul Hiett

            This is absolutely awesome.

            Keep going Gary, you’re providing me with some wonderful laughs this morning!!!!

          • Gary

            Is there any more evidence that Odin is real than there is that Fred Flintstone is real? Could either of them possibly be real? You think maybe someday one of them will be available for interviews? Is there an historical record of their existence, like there is an historical record of Moses?

          • Paul Hiett

            Hate to burst your bubble here, Gary, but there is just as much “proof” for the existence of Odin as there is for your version of “God”. To the Norsemen at the times, Odin was just as real as any man. You don’t understand this, because you think history is only 6000 years old, and that the only god anyone has ever believed in is your version.

            Sorry, but that’s simply not the case. There are over 4200 religions we know of in the world. Some of them, many of them, predate Christianity in origin.

            Just because you believe in your religion does not invalidate any other religion. Why you seem to think this is true is quite humorous.

          • Gary

            Contradictory ideas cannot all be true. If there are 4200 different religions, then at least 4199 are not true. It is possible that none of them are true. But it is not possible that more than one of them is true.

          • Paul Hiett

            Actually, Gary, ANYTHING is possible…this is what eludes you. The 4200+ religions is only comprised of those we know about. Since we don’t know what the truth is, and can not possibly know, it then opens up the possibility that all are possible, or none, or one, etc.

            The truth could be something not even considered yet.

            I constantly hear, even from people on here, the phrase “If the BIble is true…”. The issue I have with this is that no one, no where, should ever be forced to live their lives based on an “If” statement.

          • Gary

            Anything is NOT possible. Up cannot be down. North cannot be South. I could go on and on. You say “we don’t know what the truth is”, but you constantly contradict yourself by claiming that the Bible and Christianity are not true. You could not know they are not true unless you know what is true.

          • Paul Hiett

            I know there are facts that support the statement “the Bible is not true”. Not all of it, but some parts are, without a doubt, untrue.

            Now, when it comes to the supernatural…yes, ANYTHING can be possible, since we know nothing about it. You can’t make claims about the supernatural as fact since you know nothing about it. I can’t do it, you can’t…no one can. I don’t know if you’ll be able to understand this though. It takes a more open mindset…someone willing to actually learn beyond the Bible.

            I’ve also admitted that the Bible “could” be true. So could Judaism, Zoroastrianism, the Greek Pantheon, Taosim, etc…all of them have the same small chance of being right.

          • Gary

            I don’t agree with anything you said in that post.

          • Paul Hiett

            I know, you never agree with logic. I think that’s part of your problem.

          • Gary

            You think your post was logical? It is you that has the problems.

          • Badkey

            You’re about as rational as a crackhead, Gary.

          • Paul Hiett

            All religions have the same small chance of being “right”.

            In other words, for the sake of arguing, let’s say that of the 4200 known religions, one of them is right. The others are wrong.

            The odds of picking the right religion are 1 in 4200, or .0002.

            That means that each religion only has a .0002 chance of being true. Now do you understand?

          • Gary

            Yes. All things being equal, that might be true. But all things are not equal.

          • Paul Hiett

            Without proof, then yes, you have to accept that all religions are equal. FYI, the Bible is not proof. Many religions have texts as well as yours.

          • Gary

            Then we disagree on what is proof.

          • Paul Hiett

            Apparently we do. You seem to think that because something exists, it proves the existence of your choice of a diety.

            You still haven’t read up on the “god of the gaps” argument, have you?

          • Gary

            There are at least 3 explanations for the existence of the universe and what is in it. 1. Everything made itself, 2. Everything came to exist without being caused(chance), 3. Someone made everything. Is there a fourth possibility?

          • Paul Hiett

            You assume too much. We simply don’t know.

          • Gary

            We know that 1. is wrong because things do not make themselves because they would have to exist before they existed. We know that 2. is impossible because things do not come to exist without being caused. Chance is nothing. And nothing is incapable of making something happen. That leaves 3. Is there a 4.?

          • Paul Hiett

            You just admitted that God cannot exist.

          • Gary

            No, did not. God was never created. He is eternal. He has always existed. No beginning and no ending.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “Up cannot be down.”

            That is only true when one is affected by gravity. Otherwise, up most certainly can be down and vice-versa.

            “North cannot be South.”

            At the North pole, there is no north. Just as at the south pole, there is no south. North and south are concepts. They can mean whatever we want them to mean.

            “You could not know they are not true unless you know what is true.”

            In that same vein, Gary, you cannot know they are true unless you know what is true, which you do not. That’s why it’s called “faith” and not “fact”.

          • Gary

            If truth is unknowable, why do you argue for your side? Why do you even have a side?

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            I never said that truth was unknowable. I made two points. 1. things are not always black & white. 2. No one knows for certain if everything in the bible is true. Believing that it is, is a matter of faith. You are no more in a position to say that it is definitely true, then someone else is in a position to say it is definitely false.

          • Gary

            I apologize for misunderstanding. Christians believe the Bible is true. Some non-Christians believe also believe the Bible is true, but they are still in rebellion against God. And the rest of non-Christians do not believe the Bible is true.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            The Christian faith is comprised of many different sects, with different beliefs regarding interpretations of the Bible. Like with the Bible itself, because you chosen to follow a certain interpretation of the Bible, you are not in a position to say with certainty that your particular views on what the Bible says are definitively correct, while others are definitively wrong. Each sect believes that their views are the correct ones. None of us are in a position to say with certainty which is wrong and which is right. Again, it is a matter of chosen faith.

          • Gary

            I do not agree that we cannot be certain what the Bible means. Do you view the US Constitution the same way?

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “I do not agree that we cannot be certain what the Bible means.”

            I’m sure you don’t. As do Christians of every sect of Christianity. All of them can’t be right. That you believe that you have the correct interpretation is a matter of faith.

            “Do you view the US Constitution the same way?”

            People clearly have different views as to the way the constitution should be interpreted. It’s actual application has changed many times over the years, and will most likely continue to. That is one of the purposes of the judiciary.

          • Badkey

            They all have as much chance as yours.

          • Gary

            Prove it.

          • Paul Hiett

            I already did.

          • Badkey

            Yeah… I know. That’s what your mythology says.

    • thoughtsfromflorida

      “Then lobby legislators and such to change the laws for the word with the sane and correct definition”

      Since the laws are based upon the legal status of marriage, and not whether the couple has been involved in a religious rite, no such changes would be necessary.

      Why is it “insane” for two citizens of the same gender to want to have access to the civil right of marriage?

  • thoughtsfromflorida

    “garnering societal support for the concept of same-sex “throuples” worldwide”

    What societal support? What society has supported this? Certainly not Thailand.

    ““The events in Thailand simply confirm what we’ve been saying all this time: If marriage is no longer the union of one man and one woman, then it can be anything”

    ROFLMAO – Three guys in Thailand decide to post a picture of themselves and declare that they are in a relationship and this somehow serves as “confirmation” that if marriage is not restricted to only opposite gender couples that it “can be anything”. Even though same-gender marriage isn’t legal in Thailand and even though no country where same-gender marriage has been legal for years is “it can be anything” the law. Wow – talk about grasping at straws. Brown is pathetic in his attempts to justify inequality through the use of straw man arguments.

    • Paul Hiett

      They have no legitimate argument, so they seize upon anything they can now.

      • Gary

        That is your opinion.

    • Gary

      If you are for ssm, how can you limit it to two people?

      • thoughtsfromflorida

        How is allowing TWO citizens of the same gender to get married related to allowing MORE THAN TWO citizens to get married?

        • Gary

          You want to change who can marry. If you can change marriage to allow two men to marry, why not three, or more?

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            So you aren’t able to say how allowing two people of the same gender to marry would have any relevance to allowing more than two people to marry. Got it. Thanks for confirming.

            I can’t change marriage, Gary.

            Marriage has been changed before. That change did not result on polygamy becoming legal. To suggest that if one restriction is removed, then all restrictions must be removed, is without legal reason or historical precedence.

  • John Werner

    The bible is full of examples of throuples.

    • Gary

      None involving homosexuality.

  • Peter Leh

    “but also generating remarks from Christians about the confirmation of the slippery slope that has long been predicted.”

    not a slippery slope… but a logical conclusion.

    besides. christians have LESS of an argument against polygamy than SSM as there is no biblical prohibition to polygamy.

  • jjhot254 .

    “throuple” oh my…….

  • jjhot254 .

    as much as we try to deny absolutes and embrace social relativism, when we search deep within ourselves, don’t we all know right from wrong? isn’t this ingrained in us? am I the delusional one??