‘I Mean, J****’: Vice President Blasphemes Name of Christ While Defending Homosexuality

BidenWASHINGTON — Vice President Joe Biden used the Lord’s name in vain on Friday as he spoke at the annual conference for a prominent homosexual activist organization.

Biden, who served as keynote speaker at the Human Rights Campaign’s (HRC) annual spring conference in Washington, was expressing disagreement with recent remarks made by famed neurosurgeon and possible presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson. Carson had spoken earlier this week with CNN’s Chris Cuomo, brother of New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo, regarding whether or not he believes homosexual behavior is a choice.

“A lot of people who go into prison go into prison straight—and when they come out, they’re gay,” he said. “So, did something happen while they were in there? Ask yourself that question.”

Carson, a Seventh Day Adventist, later issued an apology via Facebook for his “choice of language” and noted that while he personally disagrees with same-sex “marriage” for religious reasons, he believes that states should have the right to legalize such arrangements if they wish.

“I support civil unions for gay couples, and I have done so for many years,” he wrote. “I support the right of individual states to sanction gay marriage, and I support the right of individual states to deny gay marriage in their respective jurisdictions.”

Carson continued to receive criticism for his original statement, including from Vice President Joseph Biden, who excoriated the former doctor on Friday while speaking at HRC’s annual convention.

“Every ridiculous assertion from Dr. Carson on—I mean, ridiculous. I mean, J****, G**,” he said. “Oh G**. I mean, it’s kind of hard to fathom, isn’t it?”

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“We’re never going to be able to eliminate the bigots. They’re a small percentage of the population. They’ll continue to be vocal,” Biden said. “But make one thing absolutely clear, folks, they are an incredibly smaller and smaller minority. This country is changing.”

As this week also commemorates the 50th anniversary of the 1965 black civil rights demonstrations in Selma, the vice president made a comparison of Martin Luther King Jr.’s work to obtain rights for African Americans with the efforts to legalize same-sex nuptials in the U.S.

“[It is] in fact the same basic movement,” he asserted.

As previously reported, in 2012, Biden publicly announced his support for same-sex “marriage,” just days before Barack Obama did likewise.

“I am absolutely comfortable with the fact that men marrying men, women marrying women, and heterosexual men and women marrying one another are entitled to the same exact rights, all the civil rights, all the civil liberties,” he said.

But CNN reported at that time that “Biden has, in the past, counseled the president against coming out for same-sex marriage.”

Biden, a Roman Catholic, is also an abortion advocate in addition to being supportive of homosexuality and transgenderism.


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  • lynn

    I like Ben Carson. He is on my favorites list of those who may run for president in 2016.

    • Kevin Jackson

      I pity you

      • lynn

        Why?

        • Kevin Jackson

          Every time he speaks, what comes out is. Don’t ever let me do anything but surgery because I am an ignorant fool.

    • thoughtsfromflorida

      He is my dream candidate for the Republican ticket in 2016.

      • Hugh1

        My dream candidate too. Go Ben!
        Your truly,
        Colorado Democrats for Ben Carson

        • thoughtsfromflorida

          Exactly!

          • Panthers Hat

            If only he would come out in favor of stoning the gays, he’d get my vote.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            If he feels he is losing the ultra-conservative vote, he probably will. Then, the next day, he’ll backtrack and say: “No, I meant that we should legalize marijuana so that gay people can get stoned.”

      • lynn

        =0)

    • lynn

      He seems to be an honest person . No doubt he is very intelligent. He is not an extremists. But he would need a lot of help dealing with foreign affairs. However he has stated that he would surround himself with very knowledgeable folks. At least it doesn’t appear that he would act like our current potus and not pay any attention at all to his advisors, and the people who he is supposed to be leading. God help us until we get a new leader.

      • Cadasilva

        Carson’s administration wouldn’t be Sodomic and Gomorrahnic.

        • lynn

          He stated he is apposed to ssm,but he would not interfere with individual state laws. He said the FED was way out of bounds when they override most states constitutional laws . I also don’t agree with ssm, but I only have one vote in my states amendments when they are on the ballot. Folks need to be educated so they can make the right choices. Judges are given too much power, and they all need term limits. Christians had better wake up and stand up for their moral values before they loose them all.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “He said the FED was way out of bounds when they override most states constitutional laws .”

            How is the judiciary “out of bounds” by ruling on the constitutionality of laws? Are you suggesting that citizens should NOT have the right to challenge laws in court and that the judiciary should NOT be empowered to rule on the constitutionality of laws? Are you suggesting that if the majority vote in favor of a law that the law should not be subject to challenge? If a majority of people in Utah voted to allow marriage only between Mormons, should the non-Mormon citizens simply accept that and have no recourse?

            “Christians had better wake up and stand up for their moral values before they loose them all.”

            How can someone lose their moral values based on the actions of the government? Each of us is free to choose the moral values that guide us. No government action can take that away.

          • lynn

            Are you suggesting that citizens should NOT have the right to challenge
            laws in court and that the judiciary should NOT be empowered to rule on
            the constitutionality of laws?

            Of course citizens of states should have the right to challenge laws.

            I was speaking of the national constitution that the scotus deals with. The different states have their constitutions which should not be easy for the scotus to override.

            I also believe the judiciary should have term limits. In fact, I think every elected office from the councilmen and women of little towns to the highest office in the country should have term limits.

            If a majority of people in Utah voted to allow marriage only between Mormons, should the non-Mormon citizens simply accept that and have no recourse?

            It usually takes more than a majority to change a state constitutional law.

            How can someone lose their moral values based on the actions of the government?

            Is it moral to cut folks heads off? Who knows what the Muslims will do if they get control of the government?

            Each of us is free to choose the moral values that guide us.
            No government action can take that away.

            That is true as long as it infringe on others rights or is against the law’

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “Of course citizens of states should have the right to challenge laws.”

            There would be no purpose in that if the judiciary were “way out of bounds” in ruling laws unconstitutional.

            “I was speaking of the national constitution that the scotus deals with.”

            The 14th amendment is clear that the states are not allowed to enforce laws which violate protections provided under the federal constitution.

            “which should not be easy for the scotus to override.”

            The SCOTUS hears arguments and then issues a ruling. There is no way for it to be “harder” or “easier”.

            “It usually takes more than a majority to change a state constitutional law.”

            The various laws and constitutional amendments regarding same-gender marriage bans were all put into place by a simple majority of those who voted.

            “That is true”

            Agreed. The government does not have the ability to force people to change what they view a being moral or immoral.

            “infringe on others rights or is against the law'”

            People viewing certain things as being moral or immoral does not infringe upon the rights of others or break the law. ACTING on those beliefs may, but having the beliefs does not.

          • lynn

            I’m just spinning my wheels as I must admit that I am not well educated on our justice system. You seem to know a lot more than I do. I mostly just have my opinions when it comes to political matters. That doesn’t change the fact that I like Doctor Ben Carson more than any of the other candidates. I like your honesty. We just disagree on some things, but again it would be very difsficult to find anybody that would agree 100 percent on everything in our lives. I am glad that I am not responsible for making the laws of the land, and I am sure that you are too. =O) Have a great day.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Most people aren’t well versed in our legal system. I only am because I decided to study it – but it can be a bit arcane and dry.

            Understanding it, though, is useful when discussing legal issues that we often face. There is a lot of angst that people create for themselves because they do not fully understand how the legal system works and believe that certain things should be happening that simply are not a part of how the system works.

            Making laws can be challenging as it requires that we, at times, separate our personal beliefs/likes/dislikes, from what is legally allowed and in line with the freedom, liberty, and equality that is provided for by the constitution of this great nation.

      • Yvonne Celeste Lee

        Not pay any attention to his advisors. Dear me, do you realize Obama has surrounded himself with muslim brotherhood advisers that he is taking his orders from, hence the hatred of Israel and unwillingness to do anything significant to rid the world of the terrorists.

        • lynn

          I was referring to Doctor Ben Carson, not Putsalot Obama.

  • John

    With that ridiculous and insensitive remark, Mr. Ben Carson has made his chance of being our next President almost zero!

    • JCIL

      Ben Carson was merely stating facts.

      • BlueCat

        JCIL so you are telling me that when people leave a confinement facility that they are now gay? Really. Think about it if Carson really believed this he would not have apologized.

        • JCIL

          If you look at the studies, there is a marked increase in gay behavior in prison (some cite as low as 8 percent increase and some as high as 43 percent). Then, when inmates leave prison, a certain percent remain gay.

          • lynn

            That makes sense. Men and women are separate in prison. Go figure.

  • Thomas Collins Jr June

    Biden likes to call himself a Catholic Christian, he is no more Catholic or Christian than that Savage guy in CA or Satan himself.

  • Hugh1

    So Ben Carson, prison makes people gay? What do prisoners do in their spare time, make rainbow flags and gay pride stickers? It sounds like we should have a wedding chapel on prison grounds to accommodate the happy couples. How about disco music blaring on the prison sound system as they walk down the aisle?

    Joe Biden was defending homosexuality? I thought he was exasperated with the stunning ignorance of Dr. Carson comment – that prison turns people gay. Do you have another view?

  • Frank

    Bigoted Biden calls someone else a bigot… Pot calling the kettle black hypocrisy.

  • Gail Petersen

    Just as people didn’t listen in the days of Noah…..people aren’t going to listen now. Time is short and if you don’t know the Lord Jesus, I suggest you do so now. We have nothing to lose and life to gain. God bless everyone.

    • Death defeater

      We are in the days of Noah….Amen

    • Mary Waterton

      90% of Americans call themselves “Christian”, but probably only 10% actually are. You must be born-again (John 3:7). Biden, if asked, would say that that he is a Christian; but clearly he is not. Thus you see the problem.

      Sodom America is the world’s largest and toughest mission field. It’s easier to save a cannibal in the jungles of New Guinea from eternal damnation than a “Christian” in America.

      • Cadasilva

        Yet we won’t hear a single pip from Dolan, Donohue or Francis on the current “Christian” status of Roman Catholics such as Biden, Pelosi, Boehner, McConnel and the list goes on and on. The fact is, they are not concerned because they’re all on the same page. The one detail is that Francis will wait ’till september to drop the other shoe.

      • lynn

        Thats because folks like to think they are good, or at the very least they think that their good works will out weight their bad ones. They haven’t realized that the Bible says in James chapter number 2 and verse numder 10 that howsoever shall keep the whole law,and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of dall.
        There is none good, no not one. Everybody needs a Savior, and there is only One who qualifies. His name is Jesus and His title is Christ the Lord. If He isn’t Lord of a persons life, then He isn’t their Savior.

      • Ed Selby

        How can you say that Biden isn’t a Christian? Is there a test somewhere? A checklist of beliefs and attitudes to which one must adhere in order to be a Christian?

        • Yvonne Celeste Lee

          True Christians do not promote everything God says He hates and then curse His holy name. If you want to know what being a Christian is, read the New Testament.

    • skeptic15

      I’ve read the Bible – I find the Jesus mythology irrational and repulsive- vicarious punishment/redemption via human sacrifice predicated on animal sacrifice for a (mythological) “original sin.” If the Christian god exists, it is irrational and evil, imo, and certainly not worthy of “praise.” (and I’m glad there’s no real evidence for the existence of the Christian god – other than in the minds of Christians).
      And, personally, I don’t think there’s enough “evidence” to think Jesus was even a real person- and certainly nothing to make me think worthy of “worship.”

      • daveo

        well— you said a mouthful—-no doubt you are a thinker & smart—think on this–the bible says its the Glory of God to hide things and the glory of a king to search it out—-you really need to search your heart and search for God bro—-you are taking a chance with spending an eternity away from him in complete darkness and despair—we have the testimony of the Gospels, plus there are hundreds of books and testimonies about people who have visited both heaven & hell–do you think all of these are just made up?— its all a big sham?—-Jesus was a real person and you can absolutely believe the words that he said.

        • skeptic15

          I am no more afraid to spend an eternity without your god than any other god invented by humans – I am not afraid of death- I’ve accepted it is most likely what it was like before I was born. And if your god is the god of the Christian Bible, no thanks – that’s one nasty god.
          Yes, I think Jesus is mostly mythology – I don’t think he existed- but even of he did, everything written about him is hearsay or preexisting mythology – not much for the basis of a religion, imo. And I have no reason to think he is any different than any other “prophet” or so called “holy man” – just because you and other Christians tell me he existed and is different doesn’t mean he actually existed or is in reality any different (but again, I don think he even existed).
          Regardless, I find the whole vicarious punishment/redemption via human sacrifice predicated on animal sacrifice irrational and repulsive – and my guess is you do too outside the context of Christianity- I mean, you certainly don’t think each of those things is rational and acceptable outside of Christianity, do you. If not, that’s special pleading – if so, your god/mythology is no more acceptable than any other similar god/mythology. But I’m not sure why one would even try to justify these things.

      • Master Chief USN Ret

        Jesus loves you, and there ain’t a thing you can do about it. But there will come a day where He will cease being your Savior and will become your Judge. “It is appointed a man once to die, and after death, the judgement.” He gave you a choice for a reason; accept Him or reject Him. It is up to you.

        • skeptic15

          Well, it’s far more likely he never existed – as far as living a “good” life – mine is as “good” as any Christian, imo – if that’s not sufficient, your god is not worthly of “worship,” imo.
          Personally, I find the scare tactics of Christianity particularly troubling – not because they scare me but because these are the types of things used to coerce people into believing irrational things.

          • Yvonne Celeste Lee

            It has nothing to do with your goodness and everything to do with God’s goodness. Your righteousness, like mine, the Bible says are as “filthy rags.” Faith in the finished work of Christ on the cross, where he paid for the sins of all who accept Him by faith is the only way any of us will have eternal life in heaven with Jesus, the One who made it all possible. Pray for faith, read your Bible, starting with John, and stop being “skeptic.”

      • GibbyD

        http://www.accordingtothescriptures.org/prophecy/353prophecies.html Unless you are mathematically challenged , this should give you some evidence. Several men from many countries spanning several thousands of years, could not have conspired together to produce The Bible. http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/radio034.htm

        • skeptic15

          Yes, they could – and did – the history, and content, of the Bible demonstrates that.

          • GibbyD

            Explain to me how. The Bible is remarkably self-consistent, despite having been written by more than 40 different writers over a timespan of thousands of years. God’s moral law, man’s rebellion against God’s law, and God’s plan of salvation are the continuing themes throughout the pages of Scripture. This internal consistency is what we would expect if the Bible really is what it claims to be—God’s revelation.

        • skeptic15

          You do realize that there are people just like you just as certain about the Koran and Islam, right? And other “holy books” and religions. I have no good reason to think your holy book and religion are any different than anyone else’s- just because you say so is insufficient – because others will say so with just as much conviction – doesn’t mean any of it is valid.

          • GibbyD

            Yet those books including the Koran , Book of Mormon and any other claiming Inspiration of God , do not meet tests for veracity in reference to peoples, cities and situations they speak about. They are verified to be false in the archaeological evidence and other historical although secular accounts. The only times the Koran is correct is when it agrees and repeats what the Bible has already revealed.

            The findings so far for The Bible are entirely different. There may be reasons that The Romans , for instance, would not record embarrassing accounts concerning early Christianity but the archaeology does not lie . We are finding more and more evidence as they dig of the truthful claims of Scripture. The Egyptians also may not have gone out of their way to record the Exodus , but the towns , cities and peoples of that time and recorded in The Bible , are being discovered by the science of Archaeology.

          • Yvonne Celeste Lee

            Nowhere did Mohammed claim to be God. Neither did he live a perfect life, nor die for the sins of the world, three days later to come to life, just as he predicted He would. And then rise again into heaven with 2000 people watching Him. Then send the Holy Spirit, as He said He would, with 3000+ more experiencing the powerful event that changed the world and converted cowardly disciples into men so convinced of Jesus being God that they spent their lives in poverty, proclaiming Him as the Messiah, God in the flesh, and dying a martyr’s death (all but one, who died in prison). Feel free to doubt if you have not been given the gift of faith, but do it to your own eternal peril.

    • Michex

      The point Carson was making, which he did not make well, is that people can be socialized into homosexual behavior, under certain circumstances. One of those is in prison which does not allow heterosexual outlets.

      Sometimes homosexuals in general will try to seduce a person by using pressure, intimidation, drugs, or alcohol. It’s the same as when people get sucked into any activity – it is done by bullying, or various kinds of pressure. People are urged to “experiment” with homosexuality in individual or group settings.

      People with emotional problems, a shaky identity, or low self-esteem can get drawn into homosexual behavior, just as they can be drawn into ANY sexual behavior.

      When homosexuals say that this never happens, they know they are not telling the truth. It’s absurd to deny any of this.

      It happens in prison sometimes and also outside prison.

      • Ed Selby

        “Sometimes homosexuals in general will try to seduce a person by using pressure, intimidation, drugs, or alcohol.” That’s called rape. You know, what some boys at Christian colleges do to girls (http://www.christianpost.com/news/rape-victim-says-bob-jones-university-told-her-to-repent-of-her-sin-after-she-reported-rape-121925/)

        “People are urged to ‘experiment’ with homosexuality in individual or group settings.” What groups are you hanging out in?

      • thoughtsfromflorida

        Homosexuality is an ongoing state of romantic, emotional, and sexual attraction to someone of the same gender. It cannot be “seduced” into being.

        What is your proof that “this happens”?

        • Michex

          Please. I do not think you are at all familiar with homosexual scenes, particularly in big cities.

          You want an example?

          The King brothers, both minors, molested by a homosexual, murdered their father.

          One of the brothers said ““Before I met Rick [the adult molester] I was straight but now I am gay.”

          Go read the case. It is all over the web.

          You should know better.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “The King brothers, both minors, molested by a homosexual, murdered their father.”

            And that would be an example, of?

            “One of the brothers said ““Before I met Rick [the adult molester] I was straight but now I am gay.””

            Are you suggesting that this one man’s statement is proof of what you are stated?

          • Yvonne Celeste Lee

            It happens constantly. Gays praying on young man and confusing them into a lifestyle they never would have envisioned if they had not been preyed upon. Don’t display your ignorance.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “It happens constantly. Gays praying on young man and confusing them into a lifestyle they never would have envisioned if they had not been preyed upon.”

            Examples of it happening “constantly”?

            When gays “pray” on young men, are you referring to Catholic priests?

  • Maria Wilson

    2Timothy Preach the Word
    …3For
    the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but
    wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves
    teachers in accordance to their own desires, 4and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths. 5But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.…

  • The Lone Ranger

    Neither one would make a good dog catcher in my opinion

  • GibbyD

    Huckabee , West , Cruz, Carson . Any of them would make a great United States President . I am pulling for Mike Huckabee and The Fair Tax !!!!

    Biden has been blaspheming, abusing God’s name, most his life.

    • Gary

      None of those people will be the next potus. Guaranteed.

      • GibbyD

        Then I Guarantee you that if one of them is not elected President , we are doomed as a nation. It maybe already too late to recover. One man in particular , MIKE HUCKABEE , has the best chance to save our economy with The Fair Tax and as a result save our nation .

        • Gary

          It has been too late for America for many years. This country is doomed. It would be a tragedy for Huckabee, or anyone with any character at all to be elected potus.

          • GibbyD

            You mean like someone like Reagan ? i still think there is a chance , otherwise we should be just praying that The LORD comes soon and gets us out of here . I am hoping for revival and that we can be empowered again to be that great nation that our founder envisioned. A leader and esample such as Huckabee , really can make a difference . I am praying accordingly .

          • JCIL

            I like Huckabee, too. Praying too!

          • John

            You will have to pray for a miracle becauce Mr. Huckabee has almost as low of a probability becoming President as Mr. Carson. A President has to be the President to ALL the people, not just Christians who are extreme on the issue of homosexuality.

          • GibbyD

            Obama and Hillary, including most of the democrat “representatives”, are EXTREME on the issue of homosexuality. They have no idea how extreme they are on many issues, as opposed to what the majority of God fearing Americans want. Huckabee is allot like Reagan in the sense that he would more than likely win the votes of all the Conservative , Independent and Reagan Democrats. This is why the democrats are secretly most afraid of him. It would be a landslide victory for Huckabee and The Fair Tax !!!

          • Ambulance Chaser

            If by “extreme,” you mean “in agreement with 60% of America.”

            http://www.pollingreport.com/civil.htm

          • GibbyD

            Pick the poll of your choice. The way you phrase the question and the truth of those polls is always suspect. It would not matter though if 99% of people were in favor of killing innocent unborn girls and boys by abortion , IT WOULD STILL NOT MAKE IT RIGHT !!! It would still be murder in the eyes of the God of The Universe . America needs , ” repentance toward God and faith toward The LORD Jesus Christ ” ( Acts 20:21 )KJB

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Let’s try to stay on topic, shall we?

            I’ll ask again: How can you argue that someone’s position on gay marriage is “extreme” when it concurs with that of the majority of Americans?

            Yes, I know. You don’t believe the numbers. So, can you show me a poll taken within the last 6 months, that shows that the majority of Americans do not support same-sex marriage?

          • Ed Selby

            There was a time when the majority of Americans thought that blacks could be bought and sold. Was it “extreme” to oppose that view?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Depends on when we’re talking about. If there was a time when an overwhelming majority of Americans supported slavery, and you didn’t, you would have extreme views.

            You’d be on the right side of history, but you would hold some pretty extreme views for your time.

          • GibbyD

            There was not a speck of Bible support for those erroneous beliefs of the southern Democrats who tried to perpetuate slavery and then later on the civil rights of the 60s. The Bible does though tell us that homosexuality is a sin and will damn a soul forever in hell. Adultery, murder, stealing , lying , etc. All these will send a person to hell . If you confess your sins , God is faithful and just to forgive your sin and cleanse you from all unrighteousness. ( I John 1:9). If you do not confess by admitting your sin , then you cannot have the blood of Christ applied and become redeemed. ( Acts 20:21)KJB. As long as you justify sin , you will remain lost , according tor the Bible .

            “He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.” ( Proverbs 28:13)KJB

          • skeptic15

            “There was not a speck of Bible support for those erroneous beliefs ”
            I recommend Noah’s Curse: The Biblical Justification of American Slavery.

          • GibbyD

            And there was not a speck of Biblical support to believe that the curse on Ham meant that he and his descendants would have dark skin.

            The Curse of Ham is a misnomer for the curse upon Canaan that was imposed by the biblical patriarch Noah. The narrative occurs in the Book of Genesis and concerns Noah’s drunkenness and the accompanying shameful act perpetrated by his son Ham the father of Canaan (Gen. 9:20–27).

            There is no indication that the consequences of Ham and his son meant that they were and or would be the black race and that then black men would be slaves and or servants of Shem and Japheth . Remember that the Jews were slaves in Egypt. It does not say anywhere in the Bible that black men are black because of Ham and Canaan and that then black men are slaves because of Ham and Canaan .

            “And Noah began to be an husbandman, and he planted a vineyard: 21And he drank of the wine, and was drunken; and he was uncovered within his tent. 22And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without. 23And Shem and Japheth took a garment, and laid it upon both their shoulders, and went backward, and covered the nakedness of their father; and their faces were backward, and they saw not their father’s nakedness. 24And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him.
            And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.” ( Genesis 9:20-24)KJB

          • skeptic15

            So, let’s say Hitler on his death bed confessed his sins – did he go to heaven? And millions of other non-Christians who lived “good” lives go to hell? Seriously – that’s messed up.

          • GibbyD

            Confessing your sins , will not save you. I doubt seriously if Hitler did because he was a pagan who worshiped some strange things related to his master race garbage. Anyone though can be born again and saved if they truly ‘ Repent toward God and place their faith and trust toward The LORD Jesus Christ ‘ ( Acts 20:21)KJB. It needs to be genuine . You need to “..obey from the heart that form of doctrine delivered unto you” ( Romans 6:17)KJB. Head knowledge will not make it . YOU MUST be born again . ( I Peter 1:23)

          • GibbyD

            The majority of the world does not believe The Words of The LORD Jesus Christ and do not believe that Jesus is The Saviour of the World . That same majority is still going to hell anyway. Hell is forever , not temporary . Even less believe in hell , but it is still real and still will keep you forever unless you , “..repent toward God and place your faith and trust toward The LORD Jesus Christ ” ( Acts 20:21)KJB.

            “Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.” ( Matthew 7:13-14)KJB

          • skeptic15

            So, you believe in your god, and try to coerce other to believe in your god, for fear of some (imaginary) hell? Have you not really considered the psychopathy of your god?
            Do you love someone for fear they will beat or kill you? Why do you view your god any differently?

          • GibbyD

            “And of some have compassion, making a difference: 23And others save with fear, pullingthem out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh.” ( Jude 22,23)KJB

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “The way you phrase the question and the truth of those polls is always suspect.”

            For example?

            “t would not matter though if 99% of people were in favor of killing innocent unborn girls and boys by abortion , IT WOULD STILL NOT MAKE IT RIGHT !!!”

            Please explain how allowing two citizens of the same gender to access a right offered by the state is comparable to abortion.

          • GibbyD

            God will not be mocked. Murder and Homosexuality are sin. The nations and people that approve of and commit those sins , God will judge .

          • Ed Selby

            God is mocked every hour of every day and has been ever since one person claimed unique knowledge of God.

            Still waiting for that judgement.

          • GibbyD

            And those who died in their sins are still in Hell.

            The reason why you are still waiting and not seeing judgment , is because of the following.–

            “..be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day. 9The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.” ( 2 Peter 3:8,9)KJB.

            So you see , it is because of God’s love for you and desire to see you saved that He waits for you to repent toward Him and place your faith in Jesus Christ . Be assured though , once you take your last breath , His patience will be over and you will go the way of everyone else that rejected The Gospel after having heard it . ( I Corinthians 1:21)KJB . You now have heard it again. God is slow to anger and is plenteous in mercy . Please do not delay another day.

          • skeptic15

            Your god will not be mocked?
            So, is the Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster considered to be “mockery” of your god? It’s really a far better book than the Bible, imo (yes, I’ve read them both from cover to cover).

          • GibbyD

            I doubt very much if you read The KING JAMES BIBLE from cover to cover. If you did and if it did not benefit you , it is because you did not mix it with faith when you were reading it .

            “For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.” ( Hebrews 4:2)KJB.

            I have been born again now for over 35 years and have enjoyed reading and going through my Bible over 40 times.

            Give it another try . With The LORD Jesus Christ , there is abundant and everlasting life and love. With the “Flying Spaghetti god , you probably only get a little fatter than you already might be .

            Believe on The LORD Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved. ( Acts 16:31)KJB

          • skeptic15

            “I doubt very much if you read The KING JAMES BIBLE from cover to cover. If you did and if it did not benefit you , it is because you did not mix it with faith when you were reading it .”
            I read the New International Version cover to cover – twice, when I was a “Christian” – and very much full of “faith” (I was indocrinated/brainwashed into Christianity as a child – evangelical in my late teens) – it was all the inconsistencies, contradictions, etc., that led to many years of study and apologetics, then sincere questioning, then pantheism/unitarian universalism, then to agnosticism, then to ignosticism/atheism.
            “Give it another try . With The LORD Jesus Christ”
            I occasionally do revisit my Bible – but not for guidance, mainly to “fact check” – but I see it as a book – an ~2000 year old book written by men with very narrow and primitive views – certainly not any “word of god.” As far as Jesus is concerned – again, I am not convinced he even existed (refer to On the Historicity of Jesus, Carrier). Even if he did, the “beliefs”/acceptance of vicarious punishment/redemption via human sacrifice predicated on animal sacrifice for a (mythological) “original sin” are indefensible, imo – I mean, can you take each of these
            1) vicarious punishment/redemption
            2) human sacrifice
            3) animal sacrifice
            and justify them logically and philosophically? If so, then you cannot reject these things outside the context of Christianity and, thus, there is no reason to accept Christianity as the “one true religion.” Personally, I find these things irrational and unacceptable, regardless of whether they are in the context of Christianity.
            “With the “Flying Spaghetti god , you probably only get a little fatter than you already might be .”
            Actually, I am very fit and probably in the best shape of my life. And The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster is a far better book than the Bible, imo.

          • GibbyD

            Just as I thought , you NEVER read God’s Word , The KING JAMES AUTHORIZED BIBLE . If you prefer to listen to it , it can be heard at http://www.Biblegateway.com . It really is worth your time. The NIV is messed up . I started out with a NIV and it took me a long time to recover from it . You can trust the KJB and the following site explains why.

            http://www.av1611.org/kjv/knowkjv.html

            “Concerning some of the things found and taught in the Bible, consider what The Bible says about some of those things you have a problem with.

            For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

            19For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.

            20Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world? 21For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe. 22For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom: 23But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 24But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

            25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.

            26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: 27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: 29That no flesh should glory in his presence. 30But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made unto us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption: 31That, according as it is written, He that glorieth, let him glory in the Lord.” ( I Corinthians 1:18-31)KJB.

            I did not grow up in a family that taught what The Bible says about the need to be born again. ( John 3:3; I Peter 1:23; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Ephesians 2:8,9; Philippians 1:6)KJB. Maybe that is your problem too . Too much religion and fake professions of faith and not enough genuine examples of real faith and The LOVE of God. We need a relationship with God through faith in The LORD Jesus Christ . Religion will not save you , only Jesus can. John 3:17

          • skeptic15

            Mine was the NIV when I bought my own – my mother’s was the KJV (which I was raised on).
            Do you even know the history of the Bible? I recommend
            http://www.newsweek.com/2015/01/02/thats-not-what-bible-says-294018.html
            “The gold standard of English Bibles is the King James Version, completed in 1611, but that was not a translation of the original Greek. Instead, a Church of England committee relied primarily on Latin manuscripts translated from Greek. According to Jason David BeDuhn, a professor of religious studies at Northern Arizona University and author of Truth in Translation, it was often very hard for the committee to find the correct English words. The committee sometimes compared Latin translations with the earlier Greek copies, found discrepancies and decided that the Latin version—the later version—was correct and the earlier Greek manuscripts were wrong.
            The goal of the translators was to create a Bible that was a gorgeous work that was very accurate in its translation and clear in its meaning, but that didn’t happen. “The King James Bible is a beautiful piece of English literature,’’ says BeDuhn. “In terms of the other two goals, however, this translation falls short.”

            “The King James Bible is a beautiful piece of English literature” I’m not sure I actually agree with that opinion, either.

          • GibbyD

            There are no “originals” to translate from . We have copies and copies from manuscripts. Yes , I understand the Inspiration , why a book is canonical, it’s transmission and preservation . I have been saved for over 35 years . I know the history of The Bible. I learned that back in the early 80s in Bible College. There is more to the KJB than what you know right now. That is why I sent that link so you can learn a little more .

          • GibbyD

            (I Corinthians 1:21) KJB God still chooses the foolish things in this world to confound the “wise”. There is not one problem text from the Bible that you may think is a contradiction or error that has not been answered .

          • skeptic15

            “were in favor of killing innocent unborn girls and boys by abortion”
            Are you referring to the 25-50 million spontaneous abortions (miscarriages) that occur worldwide each year – or is it somehow okay for your god to “allow” (“be in favor of”) the millions of spontaneous abortions / miscarriages?
            My guess is you are referring to elective abortions – but you probably shouldn’t ignore the reality that nature (or your god) is really not “pro life” if we apply your rhetoric and reasoning to your god and spontaneous abortions/miscarriages (and I would argue we could look at a lot more about this planet/”life” to show that if there is a god, it is not most definitely not “pro life”).

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            I wasn’t referring to any abortions. That was BiggyD’s statement.

          • skeptic15

            Sorry

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            No worries.

          • skeptic15

            “were in favor of killing innocent unborn girls and boys by abortion”
            Are you referring to the 25-50 million spontaneous abortions (miscarriages) that occur worldwide each year – or is it somehow okay for your god to “allow” (“be in favor of”) the millions of spontaneous abortions / miscarriages?
            My guess is you are referring to elective abortions – but you probably shouldn’t ignore the reality that nature (or your god) is really not “pro life” if we apply your rhetoric and reasoning to your god and spontaneous abortions/miscarriages (and I would argue we could look at a lot more about this planet/”life” to show that if there is a god, it is not most definitely not “pro life”).

          • GibbyD

            God is God and you are not. If you were to live 70 , 80 or even 100 years , you are still going to die. God has made it possible for you to have everlasting and abundant life and love. This life is but a vapor that is here now and then gone tomorrow. Everlasting life is, EVERLASTING !!! What God allows is His business because He is God . What man does , man will be held accountable for. “The wages of sin is death but The gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ The LORD” ( Romans 3:23)KJB. Don’t delay to, ” …repent toward God and place your faith and trust toward The LORD Jesus Christ ” ( Acts 20:21)KJB

          • skeptic15

            Yes, your god is your god and I am not your god – I agree.
            “the wages of sin is death” – how about a more reasonable, less threatening, relatively neutral statement like, all living things die. I have lived a long and full life – and I do not fear death – which I think is most reasonably viewed as what it was like before we were born.
            Your view of everlasting life – is there free will? If not, you are simply a drone – perhaps groveling at the feet of some narcissistic god? Doesn’t sound like “everlasting life” to me. If there is free will, you end up with the same existence as we have now – will there then be another “final judgment?” But if you accept the Bible, then free will is out of the question – there are far too many examples of the god of the Bible interfering with, and thus eliminating, free will.
            And, ultimately, you have to explain how your god was created – if it wasn’t created, why couldn’t nature/the universe not have been created – it’s special pleading to say that your god didn’t have to be created as an exception to the rule.

          • GibbyD

            God is a Spirit ( John 4:24)KJB. ” God is Love” ( I John 4:7,8)KJB. Jesus is God incarnate ( Isaiah 9:6; John 1;1-14)KJB. Think about that for awhile.

            Hyper-Calvinism is a false teaching. God knows who will be believe The Gospel but He does not program who will believe. To be a person , one must have his own intellect , sensibility and FREE WILL. God does not command some people to believe something that He Himself made it impossible for them to do. He says, ” WHOSOEVER whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.( John 3:15)KJB. Whosoever means , WHOEVER WANT IT. I do not know why some reject it but it is not because God “programmed” some not to be able to believe the Gospel . In fact , The Gospel is the power of God unto salvation to ALL who believe. ( Romans 1;16). And we are not robots , we have free will . God will not believe for you. You have to be the one to repent toward God and place your faith and trust toward The LORD Jesus Christ .

            Free will is taught in the Bible , even going back to the “free will offerings” in the Old testament .

            God was not created , He always was and is . Just because something is beyond your human mind’s understanding , it does not then mean that it is not true.The great ” I Am ” is the eternally existing one . Jesus said , ” before Abraham was , I AM”. “Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.” ( John 8:58)KJB

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Which Reagan are you referring to? The one who raised taxes and provided amnesty for millions of illegals? That one?

          • GibbyD

            Huckabee is allot like Reagan in the sense that he would more than likely win the votes of all the Conservative , Independent and Reagan Democrats.

          • GibbyD

            “The Reagan immigration orders looked nothing like Obama’s creation of a new, open-ended form of immigration relief.hese Reagan and Bush 41 executive actions were obviously different than what Obama is doing now. They were trying to implement a complicated amnesty that Congress had already passed. Congress’ action was a form of immigration relief that obviously fit within our constitutional system. Moreover, Congress left a gap when it came to immediate family members, including minor children, of individuals who qualified for the amnesty. Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 forbore from deporting people in that select group.Obama, in contrast to Reagan and Bush 41, is not trying to implement a lawfully created amnesty. There has been no congressional amnesty. In fact, there has been no immigration action from Congress in the past few years except the post-9/11 REAL ID Act of 2005, which made it harder, not easier, for aliens to qualify for immigration relief. More than that, Congress declined to pass a legalization of the type Obama is issuing during both Obama’s term and in a hotly-contested bill during President Bush 43′s term.

            Thus, Obama is clearly contravening both ordinary practice and the wishes of Congress—as expressed in statute—by declaring an amnesty himself. This is nothing like Reagan’s or Bush’s attempts to implement Congress’ amnesty. The progressive media’s claims otherwise are blatant lies, relying on their readers’ ignorance of events in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Such attempts should be rejected wherever they are found.

            If Obama wants to justify his lawless immigration action, he will have to do it some other way than citing (blaming, more like) prior Republican presidents. They, to their credit, were trying to implement Congress’ will. Obama, on the other hand, has declared that his government will act despite Congress, or, I suspect, to spite Congress. Such pettiness finds no support in the presidencies of Reagan and Bush.” —G. Malor

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Bush and Reagan both: Wanted do so something on immigration that Congress would not approve. They issued executive orders to accomplish what they wanted.

            it is exactly the same, except that Bush’s order affected significantly more people.

          • GibbyD

            Maybe you did not read the following analysis that was posted previously. ————————————————————————————— “The Reagan immigration orders looked nothing like Obama’s creation of a new, open-ended form of immigration relief.hese Reagan and Bush 41 executive actions were obviously different than what Obama is doing now. They were trying to implement a complicated amnesty that Congress had already passed. Congress’ action was a form of immigration relief that obviously fit within our constitutional system. Moreover, Congress left a gap when it came to immediate family members, including minor children, of individuals who qualified for the amnesty. Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 forbore from deporting people in that select group.Obama, in contrast to Reagan and Bush 41, is not trying to implement a lawfully created amnesty. There has been no congressional amnesty. In fact, there has been no immigration action from Congress in the past few years except the post-9/11 REAL ID Act of 2005, which made it harder, not easier, for aliens to qualify for immigration relief. More than that, Congress declined to pass a legalization of the type Obama is issuing during both Obama’s term and in a hotly-contested bill during President Bush 43′s term.

            Thus, Obama is clearly contravening both ordinary practice and the wishes of Congress—as expressed in statute—by declaring an amnesty himself. This is nothing like Reagan’s or Bush’s attempts to implement Congress’ amnesty. The progressive media’s claims otherwise are blatant lies, relying on their readers’ ignorance of events in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Such attempts should be rejected wherever they are found.

            If Obama wants to justify his lawless immigration action, he will have to do it some other way than citing (blaming, more like) prior Republican presidents. They, to their credit, were trying to implement Congress’ will. Obama, on the other hand, has declared that his government will act despite Congress, or, I suspect, to spite Congress. Such pettiness finds no support in the presidencies of Reagan and Bush.” —G. Malor

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Perhaps you aren’t aware that the comments about Bush and Reagan are false. Both made requests of Congress regarding immigration and those requests were declined, so they signed executive orders. There is no difference.

          • GibbyD

            And the difference is that what I quoted is documented and not disputed by fact checks. Your remarks are just your vain thoughts. Lying is a sin . Repent toward God and place your faith and trust toward The LORD Jesus Christ. ( Acts 20:21)KJB. Nothing in this world is worthy going to hell over. —————————————————————————————————————————————————————————————– “No, Reagan Did Not Offer An Amnesty By Lawless Executive Order ——-Today is the big day, and the Progressive media is in full spin to mitigate the anger Americans are expressing about President Obama’s decision to offer legal status to millions of people who broke the law. That spin has taken many forms, including the novel arguments that the executive branch is empowered to act whenever the legislative branch declines and that the executive branch’s enforcement discretion includes the affirmative grant of benefits not otherwise authorized by law. Most recently, however, Progressive columnists have settled on an old favorite tactic: justify Democratic misbehavior by claiming (falsely, as you will see) that a Republican did it first.

            Democrats across print, web, and cable media have been repeating the claim that Obama is doing nothing more than what Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 did first. They point to executive actions taken in 1987 and 1989 that deferred the removal of certain aliens. But, as usual for Progressive commentators, they elide the crucial facts that distinguish those actions from Obama’s. The sign that you’re being swindled isn’t so much what the con artist tells you, but what he does not tell you. What the Progressive commentariat is not telling you is that the Reagan and Bush immigration orders looked nothing like Obama’s creation of a new, open-ended form of immigration relief.

            Legally, illegal immigration is dealt with in two steps. First, the Department of Homeland Security (in Reagan and Bush 41′s time, the Immigration and Naturalization Service, or INS) has to show that an alien is removable (deportable, in Reagan and Bush 41′s lingo) from the United States. Then the alien gets a chance to show that they are eligible for some form of relief from removal or deportation. Ordinarily, those forms of relief are created by Congress. There is asylum and adjustment and cancellation of removal, and so on and so forth, all set down in statute by Congress over the decades (more than a century in the case of certain waivers) in an overlapping mess of eligibilities and disqualifiers and discretionary decisions.

            With some regularity, however, the existing forms of immigration relief have been overtaken by circumstances. When that has happened, Congress steps in. In 1986, faced with a large and growing population of illegal aliens, Congress created a new, time-limited form of immigration relief for certain aliens who, among other things, had to have come to the United States more than six years previously. This is the much ballyhooed Reagan amnesty. It was, unfortunately, riddled with fraud in its execution, the uncovering of which is still roiling the immigrant community. But even setting that aside it left President Reagan with a moral dilemma. Congress’ amnesty was large—just shy of 3 million people—and it had the unanticipated effect of splitting up freshly-legalized parents from their illegally-present minor children who did not qualify for relief.

            What the Progressive commentariat is not telling you is that the Reagan and Bush immigration orders looked nothing like Obama’s creation of a new, open-ended form of immigration relief.

            So Reagan, seeing this family unity problem that Congress had not anticipated or addressed when it granted amnesty to millions of parents, issued an executive order to defer the removal of children of the people who had applied for immigration amnesty under Congress’ new law. He allowed those children to remain in the United States while their parents’ applications for amnesty were pending. A few years later, Bush 41 extended this bit of administrative grace to these same children plus certain spouses of the aliens who had actually been granted immigration amnesty under Congress’ new law.

            Congress, though it had desired to grant amnesty, had not considered and not included the spouses and children. Importantly, nor had it excluded them. So Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 filled that statutory gap. “What do we do with spouses and children?” INS asked. “Well,” the executive branch leaders said, “defer their deportation. Decline to exercise your lawful authority for the particular cases that are related to those Congress has offered amnesty.”

            These Reagan and Bush 41 executive actions were obviously different than what Obama is doing now. They were trying to implement a complicated amnesty that Congress had already passed. Congress’ action was a form of immigration relief that obviously fit within our constitutional system. Moreover, Congress left a gap when it came to immediate family members, including minor children, of individuals who qualified for the amnesty. Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 forbore from deporting people in that select group.

            Obama is clearly contravening both ordinary practice and the wishes of Congress—as expressed in statute—by declaring an amnesty himself. This is nothing like Reagan’s or Bush’s attempts to implement Congress’ amnesty.

            Obama, in contrast to Reagan and Bush 41, is not trying to implement a lawfully created amnesty. There has been no congressional amnesty. In fact, there has been no immigration action from Congress in the past few years except the post-9/11 REAL ID Act of 2005, which made it harder, not easier, for aliens to qualify for immigration relief. More than that, Congress declined to pass a legalization of the type Obama is issuing during both Obama’s term and in a hotly-contested bill during President Bush 43′s term.

            Thus, Obama is clearly contravening both ordinary practice and the wishes of Congress—as expressed in statute—by declaring an amnesty himself. This is nothing like Reagan’s or Bush’s attempts to implement Congress’ amnesty. The progressive media’s claims otherwise are blatant lies, relying on their readers’ ignorance of events in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Such attempts should be rejected wherever they are found.

            If Obama wants to justify his lawless immigration action, he will have to do it some other way than citing (blaming, more like) prior Republican presidents. They, to their credit, were trying to implement Congress’ will. Obama, on the other hand, has declared that his government will act despite Congress, or, I suspect, to spite Congress. Such pettiness finds no support in the presidencies of Reagan and Bush.”

            Gabriel Malor is an attorney and writer in Washington, D.C. Follow him on Twitter.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            I’m unclear on what you don’t understand. Executive orders are not necessary if Congress approves something. Reagan and Bush both asked Congress to do what they wanted done on immigration. Congress refused. So they each issued executive orders. That is a matter of historical record, despite whatever spin Ms. Malor may attempt to put on it.

          • GibbyD

            “In 1986, faced with a large and growing population of illegal aliens, Congress created a new, time-limited form of immigration relief for certain aliens who, among other things, had to have come to the United States more than six years previously.

            it had the unanticipated effect of splitting up freshly-legalized parents from their illegally-present minor children who did not qualify for relief.

            So Reagan, seeing this family unity problem that Congress had not anticipated or addressed when it granted amnesty to millions of parents, issued an executive order to defer the removal of children of the people who had applied for immigration amnesty under Congress’ new law.He allowed those children to remain in the United States while their parents’ applications for amnesty were pending.

            Congress, though it had desired to grant amnesty, had not considered and not included the spouses and children. Importantly, nor had it excluded them. So Presidents Reagan and Bush 41 filled that statutory gap.

            Obama is clearly contravening both ordinary practice and the wishes of Congress—as expressed in statute—by declaring an amnesty himself. This is nothing like Reagan’s or Bush’s attempts to implement Congress’ amnesty.”

            ThoughtlessnessfromFlorida, I cannot help it if you cannot read.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            I can read just fine, dear.

            “So Reagan……. issued an executive order”

            You, apparently, can not.

            “statutory gap”

            “Statutory gap” is nothing more than an attempt to whitewash what they did. Reagan and Bush both asked Congress to approve an immigration policy they wanted. Congress wouldn’t approve it. So they issued executive orders. It is historical fact, regardless of what spin Ms. Malor wants to put on it.

            I would suggest that you consider the wisdom of suggesting that Ms. Malor’s view on the reasons why they did what the did are indicative of what they did. They are not.

          • GibbyD

            No , that is not what happened . READ CLOSELY THE CONTEXT AND WHO IT WAS THAT ENACTED THE AMNESTY !!!!! Reagan responded to actions of Congress’s passed temporary and very limited and specif amnesty . Reagan corrected the problem that resulted from CONGRESS’S AMNESTY ACT !!!

            YOU CANNOT COMPARE THAT WITH WITH WHAT OBAMA DID OR IS TRYING TO DO !!!

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “No , that is not what happened ”

            So neither Reagan or Bush issued executive orders because Congress wouldn’t approve what they wanted to do regarding immigration? History proves you wrong, dear.

            “Reagan responded to actions of Congress’s passed temporary and very limited and specif amnesty”

            No one passed “amnesty”. That is a word that conservatives like to falsely toss around. Obama is not offering “amnesty”. Stop watching FOX news, look up the word “amnesty” and see what it really means.

            “Reagan corrected the problem”

            “corrected the problem” – in other words, Congress wouldn’t give him what he wanted, so he took executive action.

            What is it you think Obama is doing with his executive order?

          • GibbyD

            I don’t watch television. I don’t own one. I read, study and digest commentary from respected lawyers, historians and some print news editors and journalists.
            Reagan’s executive orders were in reference to correcting the problems that arose from what congress enacted . Let that sink in.
            What Reagan did in response to what congress could not foresee in their version of temporary and specific “amnesty” , was to correct the problems that followed from what CONGRESS ENACTED !!!

            What Obama is trying to do is unconstitutional . What Reagan did was correct the problems that arose from what Congress did in their temporary , very limited and specific version of “amnesty”.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “Reagan’s executive orders were in reference to correcting the problems”

            What Obama is doing is correcting problems that he sees with current immigration laws.

            “What Reagan did in response to what congress could not foresee”

            Congress was free to change the law to accommodate these unforeseen problems. Reagan asked them to do so. They refused.

            “What Obama is trying to do is unconstitutional.”

            How so?

          • GibbyD

            Only Congress can make laws. Obama is a tyrant

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            What law has Obama made? Please be specific as to the exact law.

          • GibbyD

            Only Congress can make and or change the laws concerning who is legally allowed in our country .

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Agreed. What law has Obama made?

          • GibbyD

            de-facto illegal one with the same effect as one concerning who can be in this country . Only Congress can make a law concerning “legal” status of people in this country. Obama is trying to do an end run out of bounds and illegally usurp the law of the land and constitution.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Obama’s executive action does not change the legal status of immigrants. They are still here illegally.

          • GibbyD

            Obama’s illegal and unconstitutional order , attempts to make null and void standing existing law.

          • GibbyD

            Obama’s illegal and unconstitutional order, attempts to make null and void standing existing law. By doing so he also is in violation of his oath of office .

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            You keep saying that Obama’s executive order is illegal and unconstitutional, but you continue to fail to point out what law was broken or what part of the constitution was violated. Without those citations, your claims have no validity.

          • GibbyD

            A U.S. citizen by birth or naturalization INA 301 (8 U.S.C. 1401), INA 310 (8 U.S.C. 1421) or a U.S. noncitizen national INA 308 (8 U.S.C. 1408), INA 101(29) (8 U.S.C. 1101(29))

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Obama’s executive order does not grant citizenship to anyone.

          • GibbyD

            SECTION 5 of the 14th amendment !!!!

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Repeating the same thing over again serves no purpose. Obama’s executive order does not violate Section 5 of the 14th Amendment.

          • GibbyD

            And section 5 of the 14h amendment

            Section 5.

            “The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article. ”
            ( NOT THE PRESIDENT)

            Obama has failed to keep his oath of office and must resign or be impeached and removed .

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            In what way has he violated his oath of office?

            You should start impeachment proceedings immediately, Gibby! Let me know how that goes.

          • GibbyD

            Obama has not defended nor obeyed the Constitution. There will be little justice done in this life and in this sin cursed world. The judgement that you, Obama and all the world need to be concerned about is the judgement that awaits everyone that has rejected The Way , The Truth and The LIFE , The LORD Jesus Christ. You can’t fake it all your life and expect anything but the Lake of Fire in the end. Jesus said , ” Ye MUST be born again” ( John 3:3; 1 Peter 1:23)KJB. Life is short, Death is sure, Sin the cause , Christ the cure.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “Obama has not defended nor obeyed the Constitution.”

            Examples? If you have them, then start impeachment proceedings immediately, Gibby!

          • GibbyD

            A U.S. citizen by birth or naturalization INA 301 (8 U.S.C. 1401), INA 310 (8 U.S.C. 1421) or a U.S. noncitizen national INA 308 (8 U.S.C. 1408), INA 101(29) (8 U.S.C. 1101(29))

            Section 5 of the 14 amendment of The United Starts Constitution and Bill of Rights. It is the job of congress not the President. Read it . Obama has failed to keep his oath of office.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Obama’s executive action does not grant citizenship to anyone.

          • GibbyD

            Obama’s “executive action” concerning illegal aliens bears no weight at all , and is simply to be disobeyed, and better yet,to be ignored . “The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.” Section 5 of the 14 amendment .

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            “Obama’s “executive action” concerning illegal aliens bears no weight at all”

            Oh, good. Then you can stop complaining about it.

          • GibbyD

            That’s right , I am not complaining , I am just stating the truth. The more important question and truth is, where will he and you spend eternity ? “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” ( Romans 1:16)KJB. “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” ( Revelation 20:15)KJB. “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.” ( Acts 16:31)KJB

            The article revealed that VP Biden uses God’s name in vain and uses profanity in his normal speech. Actually , if you go back and investigate , he does this quite often, even when he was a senator from Delaware and before his plagiarizing days. Obama has mocked the Bible and those who believe it and then pretends to be a Christian. Obama is a danger to our country. It is a shame that the democrats care more about their own power and personal prosperity than they do the good of the future generations of Americans .

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            Yes, because goodness knows there never has been any other Christian who used the word “Jesus” in any manner other than speaking about the man. Geez. Get over yourself.

            “Obama is a danger to our country.”

            Oh yes. Just look at how awful things have gotten. Gas down; oil production at record levels. interest rates at record lows; stock market at record highs. Deficit down, inflation low, unemployment way down, illegal immigration down. American troops home from wars started through lies. More new businesses started in the last 4 years than in the previous decade. Corporate profits at recored levels. Just horrible, huh? How will we ever survive the next 21 months? He better get moving if he is going to completely destroy the country and implement Marxism, Communism, and Socialism. He’s only got a little while left.

            The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

          • GibbyD

            First, the economy is not recovering or healthy for anyone but corporate elite, billionaires, bankers and Wall Street. Main Street and small business are dying. The American middle class is being murdered. For the first time in history our middle class is no longer number one in the world – Canada’s is. For the first time in history more businesses are failing each day than opening. For the first time in history there are more people on welfare, food stamps and other handouts than working in the private sector. We have the lowest workforce participation rate in history. Almost 100 million working-age Americans aren’t working. 107 million Americans are on some form of WELFARE !!!!!!!

            Health insurance premiums have gone up more in the past year than in the 8 years prior to Obamacare combined. And that is precisely why GDP was up. Almost the entire increase in 3rd quarter GDP was fueled by the massive increase in healthcare costs due to Obamacare.

            Obama’s voters get “free” healthcare, while middle class America and small business gets bankrupted with the huge bill. Our health insurance premiums are skyrocketing, destroying our quality of life, and Obama calls that proof that GDP is up. That’s an achievement?

            Next Obama’s defenders claim unemployment is down. How could it be down if the workforce participation rate is the lowest in history? The answer is fraud. The government doesn’t count the people no longer looking for jobs…or who don’t want a job (who would rather sit home collecting welfare). True unemployment is at Great Depression levels. The jobs being created are crappy, low wage, part-time jobs. Can you imagine what liberals would say if a white Republican was president and every job created was flipping burgers, mowing lawns or cleaning toilets? They’d say he was trapping minorities in a life of poverty and hopelessness. But a black liberal president receives congratulations.

            A rising stock market based on good news and positive economic fundamentals would be great. But a rising stock market based on fake money printing by the Fed, misleading economic stats and massive debt is not so great. Actually it’s a tragedy. Our stock market under Obama resembles the sub-prime mortgage crisis. It’s a debt bubble about to pop.

            The stock market is up because Obama has added $8 trillion in debt. This is the world’s largest Ponzi scheme. We’ve printed trillions in fake dollars to make the stock market go up for the corporate elite (Obama’s biggest donors), to prop up union pension funds (to benefit Obama’s biggest union supporters), and to pay for 107 million Americans on welfare and food stamps (Obama’s most loyal voters). But the mountain of debt is like a credit card credit line that will soon explode, destroying our country and our children’s future. Every politician who supported it should be in jail. ALL THIS IS INDEED, HORRENDOUS !!!

            Anyone can use credit cards and mortgages they can’t afford to look like they’re rich. But when the bill comes due, the whole scheme comes crashing down. America under Obama is one big fraud. The “prosperity” is a mirage, propped up by debt. We are living on borrowed credit.Debt is a cancer that kills every country it has ever touched. Study ancient Greece, or the Roman Empire. Or ask Venezuela. They are following the exact Obama game plan. They now have massive unrest, starving citizens, food and toilet paper shortages…and the highest stock market in history!

            Obama has corrupted and destroyed the system. It’s rigged to make the stock market go up, while hiding the fact that he’s piling up the most debt in world history, mortgaging our future, destroying the middle class, and driving most of the workforce into poverty and government dependency.

            Finally there’s the lie that Obama has reduced the deficit. Well this fantastic “reduced” deficit is still higher than the highest deficit under Bush. But let’s give credit, where credit is due. The deficit is down due to you and me-the taxpayers.Obama pushed through the highest tax increases in history. We’re all paying much higher taxes. That’s why the deficit is down. How is that an achievement?

            Middle class America has been fleeced so Obama can brag he’s reduced the deficit. Is the GOP really this stupid? They can’t figure this out? Higher taxes have produced new government revenue, which has reduced the deficit. That’s not an achievement, it’s a rip off. The sky has fallen and taken even every star in space with it .

            The entire Obama economic “recovery” is a lie. It’s all based on lies, misrepresentations, in some cases pure fraud, higher taxes, massive debt, and on the income redistribution of money from the middle class to the poor and the corporate elite. The rest of us are either drowning, or hanging on for dear life.

            The number you need to remember is 18 Trillion !!!!!!!!!!!!! IN DEBT !!!!!!!!!!!

            It also looks like gas in going back up and they are even seriously talking about American boots back on the ground in The Middle East, primarily because Obama took them out too soon and against the best military advise.

            Now concerning Biden ,he has a long history of using vulgar speech and blasphemy. Biden is not a Christian. He does not even abide by and practice his own religion.

          • Gary

            There is only one moral stance on homosexuality and that is to agree with God’s condemnation of it and to oppose it. That includes opposing ssm.

          • JCIL

            God is in the miracle business. In fact, He is the only one who can perform them. If it’s His will, no problem.

          • skeptic15

            Why do you refer to your god as a “he?” Do you, or someone you know, have special knowledge of male genitalia? A picture or video evidence? When you really think about this, it is actually quite a significant question – once you start giving god attributes, do you not start limiting your god? And why would you make your god a male being? (hint – because men invented him and made women “subservient” and “submissive”)
            “God” is pretty pissed off that “She” is continually referred to as a “He.” She’s not coming back until everyone starts referring to her as “She.”

          • Yvonne Celeste Lee

            How much do they pay you to make such ridiculous statements? If you ever read the Bible, which is where one can know what God revealed about himself, you would understand that He referred to Himself as He, as Father, as Jesus (a man’s name). Or are you just talking to hear your brains rattle? Sorry, but people want to hear intelligent arguments and comments and they are sadly lacking in your posts.

          • Gary

            It won’t happen. Even if a good man could get elected potus, (and a good man cannot), congress and the courts would oppose him. And Reagan was a puppet of his rich handlers.

          • GibbyD

            We will see what God allows. The following verse does give some credence to what you have said about a “good” man being able to reach a position of high leadership in a nation. — —————————–

            “This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men.” ( Daniel 4:17)KJB. —–

            Even so , I pray God has mercy on us and that He grants us favor by making it possible to have another person of moral strength and wisdom as our President. There have been some .

            What we have now though is an example of (Psalm 12:8)KJB
            –“The wicked walk on every side, when the vilest men are exalted”

          • Lisa

            I don’t believe there is a chance that things will change like you are hoping. In the end things get worse and worse and not better. The better prayer would be to pray to endure, persevere and overcome, because we will be here for the tribulation and we will need endurance and perseverance like Jesus said we will need to overcome what will come upon us in that time. Wish I could believe pre-trib again but I’m afraid that’s just not true.

          • GibbyD

            Well , yes Lisa , it seems as though we have a different eschatology. There has been persecution and suffering for The Church and Christians since it’s founding . What happens though during the “Great” Tribulation is set to happen and is primarily for Israel . God will fulfill His promises . This happens right after the time of the gentiles is full . When that last person to be saved in the Church age is saved , then what follows is The Time of Jacob’s Trouble .

            –“For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
            And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
            For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.” (Romans 11:25-26)KJB

            “Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of JACOB’S TROUBLE ; but he shall be saved out of it.
            For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
            Therefore fear thou not, O my servant JACOB , saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O ISRAEL : for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and JACOB shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
            For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.” ( Jeremiah 30:7-11)KJB ————- Lisa , those in Christ had their punishment for sin laid on Christ and He bore it for them . This time of Great Tribulation punishment and trouble , has to do with Israel and the unbelieving nations and peoples left on the Earth after The Bridegroom catches away His bride , The Church .

            Lisa , concerning the Trump and Trumpets , here are the differences . The trumpet of the church age is called the “trump of God” (1 Thessalonians 4:16). The trumpet of Revelation is the trumpet of the seventh angel (Revelation 11:15).

            The trumpet of the church age is singular. There is no mention of a series of trumpets. The trumpet of Revelation is the seventh of seven. The phrase, last trump, has a different significance as we will see later.

            In 1 Thessalonians 4, the trumpets calls the dead to life. The seventh trumpet of Revelation occurs after a resurrection occurs (Revelation 11:12).

            The trumpet of the church age comes as a blessing. The trumpet of Revelation comes with judgment and is called the third woe (Revelation 11:14).

            The trump of the church age sounds in “a moment, in the twinkling of an eye” (1 Corinthians 15:52). The seventh trumpet of Revelation sounds for “days” (Revelation 10:7).

            Lisa, when the LORD tells us to ” LOOK UP , our redemption draweth nigh” , He is not asking us to look up for Hailstones , Fire mixed with blood. He is saying He is coming first to catch up His Bride , The Church , before He pours out His wrath upon a disbelieving and Christ rejecting world. Those that trust in Him after the catching up are tribulation saints and are known as the elect. The Church again is not mention in the Revelation after 4:1. They are later seen in the Book when we come with Christ at his second coming .

          • Lisa

            Yep we do have a different eschatology.

          • http://BibleGateway.com/ Revelation55

            I agree Lisa….in order for all things to become NEW the old things must Pass Away…..that means “US”, and we all will DIE, but, those who have faith in their Lord will be Resurrected to Eternal Life, and life in Abundance.
            This is what it means to be “Born Again”, and, to be “Born Again IN CHRIST”.

            You have great faith Lisa. Stay on the path and you will be taken to the Gates.

          • Lisa

            You are always so kind to me-thank you!

          • http://BibleGateway.com/ Revelation55

            You’re welcome Lisa…..God Bless You!!

          • Lisa

            God bless you too! Have a wonderful evening.

          • lather

            Regan was a MURDERER and most of his cabinet criminals.. Are you fucking serious?

          • Ed Selby

            Like Reagan? The divorced former denizen of Hollywood whose wife consulted astrologers in the White House? Have you not read what the Bible says about divorce and astrology??

          • GibbyD

            Reagan’s 1st wife left him and he was heartbroken over it. She did not want to be a politician’s wife. Reagan’s political views changed when he began to see the disaster that liberals and big government were causing. He married Nancy Davis probably before he grew in his faith. He was faithful to her though through all her weirdness. Love covers over a multitude of sin. Reagan saved the world from the growing menace of Communism and he also scared the C___ out of Iran when they were holding our Americans as hostages. They quickly released them when Reagan got into office because they knew his first action would be to squish the Iranian religious goons. We are threatened again by the enemy that is radical Islam. We need a man like Huckabee who can articulate the problem well , and also persuade America with the simple solution. WE KILL THEM before They kill us. The Obama administration has bowed to the enemy and refuses to fight them with the determination that is needed to protect us . My advise to you is to just watch the debates. Watch how a true man of God with the wisdom of Solomon and heart of a lion , will convince the gainsayers and silence his critics that he is the only person for the job.

          • skeptic15

            As long as you are praying to the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
            RAmen

          • GibbyD

            “The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.” ( Psalm 9:17)KJB

            “But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

            11Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in allholy conversation and godliness, 12Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?13Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.” ( 2 Peter 3:10-13)KJB

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Define “doomed.”

        • skeptic15

          “I Guarantee you that if one of them is not elected President , we are doomed as a nation.”
          I’ve heard a lot of that “doomed” talk over the much of my half century of life – also heard a lot of it in 2008 – also read a lot of it in historical documents when no “dooming” occurred – enough fear mongering – doesn’t it get tiresome ?

          • GibbyD

            When has The Constitution of The United States ever been assaulted and threatened more than it has the past six years ? Condemnation is already occurring. Open your eyes.

          • GibbyD

            “As a nation, we have been given over to judgment, to uncleanness, to, as the bible says, a ‘reprobate mind’. We cannot repent because we don’t think we have done anything wrong. We see ourselves as progressive, open-minded, non-judgmental and all-inclusive, and not as wicked, vile, sinful and rebellious against God as His word says we are. We have changed the Truth of God into the lie of the Devil, and God has given us a king to rule over us who will make sure we cannot find our way back.

            Barack Hussein Obama (might be ) God’s judgment on America for our sins, and if so , it is a judgment from which I don’t think we shall ever recover. Right up to the very moment he and all his men drowned in the Red Sea, Pharaoh was sure of his victory. He was deluded unto death, as is Obama as he leads us ever downward towards a ‘ruinous heap’.

            But it is not too late for you, as an individual, to throw off the yoke of this oppression and throw yourself upon God’s mercy:

            “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.” Revelation 18:4

            Flee to safety while there is still time

            Jesus said the end would come as it did in the “days of Noah”. You can see the Ark in front of you, and you can almost feel that first raindrop begin to fall. In your heart you know what’s coming. I beg you to run into the Ark of Safety, and don’t look behind you as America crumbles into the dust. The last days are here, judgment slumbereth not.– (and the sound of the Trump of God is nearer for those in Christ to be caught up and out of this world) ( 1st Thessalonians 4:16,17; I Corinthians 15:51,52)KJV . Don’t get left behind !!!

            “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16)KJV ” —G. Grider

          • GibbyD

            Skeptic15 , are you really that misinformed about the history of past and once great and powerful civilizations ? Each of those who lived in them probably thought as you do that nothing could diminish or doom them to mediocrity or even total destruction.

    • skeptic15

      Which name would that be, Jehovah? I don’t ever recall him taking the name Jehovah in vain.

      • GibbyD

        Jesus is Jehovah !! Jesus is God incarnate. Jesus fulfills over 333 prophecies , many of them written thousands of years before his prophetic birth in Bethlehem. Look up the prophecies. Jesus is God ( John 1:1-14; John 4:24; Isaiah 9:6 (duel prophecy))KJB

        • skeptic15

          Well, if Jesus is Jehovah, he’s a pretty awful being, imo. If Jesus existed, it’s far better, imo, to believe he could think for himself – rather than be a puppet/drone for Jehovah.

          • GibbyD

            “Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;” ( Hebrews 1:3)KJB

            “But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.” ( Hebrews 1:8)KJB

  • Gary

    You cannot support homosexuality or ssm without blaspheming the name of God. Your support for those things is an insult to God. Nobody gets away with that. God is not impressed with Presidents, or with those who aspire to that office. Biden and Obama will not escape God’s wrath, and neither will any supporter of ssm and homosexuals.

    • JCIL

      God will hold us in account for our behaviors on earth. No one is exempt. Just as God was slow to act against the Jews (He warned them countless times), He will act against all sin. That is certain. Sin is sin. Public opinion doesn’t change that fact.

      • lather

        You are a fool. Easter bunny show up last year? Expecting him this year?

      • skeptic15

        Wow – now that’s messed up, imo.
        And what of the young children and unborn children at the flood? How was that not just pure evil on the part of your god?
        And what of the firstborn in Egypt? And all the other women and children killed in the OT?
        Christian ideology truly scares me – not because it’s real, but because it seems to cause people to think irrationally – and your post only confirms how warped such ideology can be.

        • Yvonne Celeste Lee

          Noah preached repentance and the coming flood for 100 years as the heathen around him mocked and threatened him. 100 years to repent and get in the ark. His patience was great, but it did not last forever, and neither will it before his next judgment. A holy God must judge sin or he would be an unjust liar. Even our legal system judges sin, yet you expect a righteous God to just overlook it, pat the evil ones on the head, and say, “Continue in your violence and evil, sweeties, just gotta love ya, cuz God is love.” Wrong! It is not your job to judge God; it is His job to judge his creation. He is the righteous God, and one day every knee will bow before Him, even yours, and acknowledge him as Lord. Better to do it now while there is still time for your soul to find peace, rest, and eternal life.

    • lather

      Derp, The article is written by a woman.. she is to be silent!! You seem to pick and choose your sins.. Hypocrite?

    • Jay the Prophet

      You also can’t eat shrimp, bacon or wear a poly/cotton t-shirt without invoking the wrath of God. (Same book of the old testament.)

      • Gary

        If you only use the New Testament, you still conclude that homosexuality is sinful, and that marriage is the union of a man and a woman.

        • skeptic15

          If you use the New Testament, you’re still using the thoughts of primitive men – don’t worry , you’re always welcome to finish the Bible then join us in the modern world.

          • Yvonne Celeste Lee

            God’s Word never changes, not in the past, the present, or the future. You either honor it or you don’t. If you deny Him, Jesus said, He will deny you on Judgment Day. That is a scary place to be just for a few short years of living a godless, self-serving life.

          • thoughtsfromflorida

            So I assume you have a bible written in Aramaic and that you are fluent in Aramaic, correct?

      • lynn

        You need to read Romans 10: 4-11

        • Ed Selby

          Using just the New Testament, women, be silent! The Bible says more about women keeping quiet than about women marrying women.
          1 Timothy 2:12
          1 Corinthians 14:34

          • Yvonne Celeste Lee

            Paul told women are to be silent in the congregation, not everywhere on earth. You think like a muslim. Women speaking had no eternal punishment, unlike practicing homosexuality. Nothing was written in the Bible about rockets either, since they didn’t exist then. But obviously since homosexuality is an abomination to God, marrying homosexually would be as much or more so. Just a slap in the face of the Creator who 100% of the time spoke of marriage in the context of man and woman. Nothing was written on homosexuals marrying each other since that level of rebellion against God’s laws didn’t exist then. That has been left for the final years of history before the Lord returns in righteous wrath to judge with fire and brimstone those who choose to blaspheme and mock His laws and his people in this way.

      • lynn

        Read Acts chapter number 11 verses 1 through 9.

  • TruePatriot

    What every AMERICAN should understand gay or straight is that Joe Biden is anti-AMERICAN. He only wants the Democratic Party to succeed because the Democratic Party in AMERICA is the communist party that wants to eradicate the Constitution and push AMERICA into the NWO. The thing is the NWO underestimated the IS, and their ability to grow really fast and become a threat to the world. The NWO however keeps pushing to destroy America. DR. Carson was only making a point of what he believed. It doesn’t mean he doesn’t love this country or wouldn’t protect the right of all Americans but also believes in the separation of Government and states, which not only shows his knowledge of our Constitution and what the limitations of Government should be but also the knowledge that states should decide these issues. Joe Biden should be doing his job to protect AMERICA, which again is another complete failure of the OBAMA Administration to do as multiple ISIS terrorists continue to our over our borders. They are everywhere, I am seeing them everywhere I go now and they stand out like sore thumbs, pay attention because Biden and OBAMA are going to get millions of Americans killed because of their anti-AMERICAN agenda, and when this starts happening this issues is going to be the least of Americans problems…

    • lather

      Get to a doctor you loon.

    • thoughtsfromflorida

      “They are everywhere, I am seeing them (ISIS) everywhere I go now,”

      You might want to consider seeking help for that.

    • Ed Selby

      This morning I left my house – stopped at local diner for breakfast with the regulars (chicken farmers, a veterinarian, a few contractors) – then I filled up with gas at the nearby QT – paid the cute girl behind the counter – drove to work – had a long productive day – even stopped for a nice lunch with some co-workers.

      Not a single ISIS anywhere. TruePatriot, you must live in a weird place.

  • Glory to the King

    I was physically attacked at a young age and therefore was suicidal til God delivered my at age 21……..Gays have often been molested by other men and it turns them gay..it is a demonic spirit that controls them just as the demonic spirit of suicide controlled me..

    I did not know it was a spirit and felt I was powerless to change it as I had been suicidal since age 3. But WAS I DESTINED TO BE SUICIDAL THE REST OF MY LIFE………………NO….NO…NO…………….IN THE SAME WAY A GAY PERSON (I WAS TOLD THIS ALSO BY AN EX-GAY) IS CONTROLLED BY A HOMOSEXUAL SPIRIT….AND IT MAY HAVE HAPPENED SO YOUNG THEY DON’T KNOW HOW TO CHANGE IT!

    ….BUT IT IS A BONDAGE AND THEY DO NOT HAVE TO STAY UNDER IT’S OPPRESSION THE REST OF THEIR LIVES IF THEY WILL CHOOSE TO GET FREE!

    IT TOOK ME 2-3 YRS TO PUT THAT SUICIDAL SPIRIT COMPLETELY TO REST AND MY EX-GAY FRIEND IT TOOK HIM A FEW YRS TO BE COMPLETELY FREE….

    BUT HALLELUJAH….JESUS CAME TO BIND UP THE BROKENHEARTED…TO PROCLAIM LIBERTY TO CAPTIVES AND THE OPENING OF THE PRISON TO THOSE WHO ARE BOUND…TO PROCLAIM THE FAVORABLE YR OF THE LORD!! ISAIAH 61

    • Ambulance Chaser

      I’ll need to see some research saying that molestation makes you gay.

    • Ed Selby

      One of my closest and dearest friends is a gay man. He was never molested. His family are church-going Bible believing Christians. He has never been suicidal (although he is a recovering alcoholic – as are many Christians).

      So — glad didn’t kill yourself. Too bad you still hate who you are.

  • Death defeater

    Biden is a dimwit. He has no hope of wining the office of president. Most people would vote for a fire ant before voting for this imbecile.

  • Jay the Prophet

    So everyone who is against homosexuality lives by the entire old testament? No work on Sundays, no shellfish, no pork, no leavened bread, never wear clothes of two fabrics, women are silent in church, can sell your daughters, can buy slaves from neighboring countries, etc….?
    Either you follow the old and new testament of the bible or you pick and choose the parts that fit with your preconceived ideology given to you by the flawed church that you attend. Because churches are the work of man, not the work of God.

    Or… you can forget the old testament and live by the teachings of Jesus, love one another, take care of you fellow man.

    • Gary

      Homosexuality is condemned in the NT too. And marriage in the NT is strictly heterosexual.

      • lynn

        Jay,
        For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has made me free of the law of sin and death.
        Romans 8:2

        • skeptic15

          Realizing there is almost certainly no god “has made me free of the law of sin and death”
          Just sayin

      • Ed Selby

        So?

      • skeptic15

        So, what you are really saying is the NT is as bad as the OT.
        You’re really just proving the point that the Bible is not a good source for kindness but rather something that can be used to judge and condemn others for not thinking or acting like you. Nice. How did Christianity survive for so long? Oh yeah, fear and coercion- it continues to this day.

    • skeptic15

      “love one another, take care of you fellow man”
      Doesn’t that change a bit when you get to Revelation? Just a thought.

  • Vince Stagbaugh

    “I say the way to cure homosexuality is to go out on your porch with a shotgun and just fire off a couple of blasts. That will take care of it.”
    – Joe Biden

  • funkyderek

    A Christian news site blanking out the name Jesus! Now I’ve seen it all.

  • skeptic15

    One would think that people here would know that the name of the god of the Hebrews was yeheweh / “YHWH (many people say Jehovah- but the name is a combination of the Hebrew words for I was, hiyah, I am, hoveh, and I will be, yeheyay) – the Hebrew word “YHWH” was replaced with “LORD” so as not to take the name “YHWH” “in vain.”
    Neither Jesus nor God violate the commandment to not take the name of the god of the Hebrews in vain.
    And there are many, many things in Exodus, Deuteronomy, and Leviticus that most people today ignore- and for good reasons.

  • Truthhurts24

    This is why no one should have faith in any politician running for office they are corrupt devils