Seattle Mayor Proposes Offering Sharia Law-Compliant Home Loans for Muslims

Open House pdSEATTLE, Wash. — The mayor of Seattle and his housing committee have unveiled a plan to increase housing in the city, with a portion of the plan proposing the offering of Sharia law-compliant loans for Muslim residents.

Among the number of ideas offered to make housing more affordable for Seattle residents is a segment that addresses Muslim beliefs, as Sharia law forbids usury for its adherents.

“For our low—and moderate—income Muslim neighbors who follow Sharia law—which prohibits the payment of interest or fees for loans of money—there are limited options for financing a home,” the proposed plan reads. “Some Muslims are unable to use conventional mortgage products due to religious convictions.”

“The City will convene lenders, housing nonprofits and community leaders to explore the best options for increasing access to Sharia-compliant loan products to help these residents become homeowners in Seattle,” it says.

Arsalan Bukhari, chapter executive director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, told the Puget Sound Business Journal that he believes that there are approximately two hundred Seattle residents who identify as Muslim that avoid taking out home loans because of their religion.

“[T]hey don’t want to pay interest,” he said.

Mayor Ed Murray mentioned the proposal at a recent press conference, which will go to city counsel for consideration.

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“We will work to develop new tools for Muslims who are prevented from using conventional mortgage products due to their religious beliefs,” he said.


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  • Maurice Pineda

    We’ll pray for you, Senator! God bless!

    • PlanetoftheAtheists

      Don’t forget to burn a goat you loon.

  • http://leftsideannie.wordpress.com/ Leftside_Annie

    If this braying ass wants to preach, he needs to resign from the legislature and get himself a job as a preacher.

    • Tia Logan

      a braying ass??? What are you? It’s people like you that will never gain the respect of others simply because all you know how to do is name call any one or any thing that you do not agree with… that really shows intelligence.

    • 950

      Oh shut up!

      • Forgiven

        Left side Annie, why do Christians frighten you? Why do you want Christians to “shut up”. Help me understand.

        • Bone Wilder

          Are you too dumb to even use this simple comment system?

    • Liz Litts

      The Followers of Jesus Christ have to right-the obligation to speak the truth anytime any place any where–We will not be silent! Get used to it! Better than you have tried to silence the Church and failed ! YOu will fail again!

      • Jesse

        We don’t want you to shut up, we just want you to stop trying to force us to live by your beliefs. Unfortunately, you don’t seem to be able to separate your “god’s” laws from the laws of man.

    • Vickie

      If you are a member of the LGBT community . . . Please, go ahead and do what you want – what makes you happy. There is surely a church in your area that would be honored to marry you, and a florist who would be honored to do your flowers, and a baker, and a musician, and a photographer – whatever you need to make your wedding day perfect for you. But please, just leave the Christians alone.

    • Stephen Peele

      He will not, we will not….done?

    • Oboehner

      Interesting you use the word “ass” below an article about homosexuality.

      • StereoMan

        More interesting that you would zero in on it.

        • Oboehner

          Almost as interesting as you trolling this site claiming you’re not queer yet defending it adamantly.

          • StereoMan

            Right, because only homosexuals can speak up against abject, bigoted, hypocritical stupidity.

          • Oboehner

            Bigoted against a choice? That’s rich, try again trollboy, how many perverts had their businesses shut down or fined out of existence? Talk about hypocritical stupidity, gay is a choice, a learned behavior – no one forces these mentally challenged deviants to do what they do. A male can sodomize another, yet “ol Jared Kreft gets charged.

          • StereoMan

            It isn’t a choice, moron. Listen to science, don’t run away from it with your head sandwiched between two Bibles. And even after all this time you insist homosexuality equals sodomy, but give a free pass to the straights who practice it. Stupidity and hypocrisy are a bad combination and put you in a very ugly light.

          • Oboehner

            It is a choice moron, every bit as much a choice as any other sexual perversion. Science? That’s a joke, it is learned behavior – period, don’t run away from it with your head firmly planted up your boyfriends poop-chute. Name one time I gave “straights” a pass on that, until you do don’t bother me with your fabricated crap.

          • StereoMan

            You know, there’s a word for people who believe what they want to believe regardless of the proof being held in front of their face. You want to hate, talk about p___chutes and all your fun hateful language, etc., go ahead. Continue to spout anti-science and hate and bigotry and stupidity. I don’t care.

          • Oboehner

            You know, there’s a word for people who believe what they want to believe regardless of the proof being held in front of their face. You want to hate, talk about “fundies” and all your fun hateful language, etc., go ahead. Continue to spout agenda pushing pseudo-science and hate and bigotry, stupidity and sexual perversions. I don’t care.

          • StereoMan

            I see, and how does “fundie” hurt your widdle fee-fees when it’s just short for “fundamentalist” which you are, and yet when you talk about homosexuals you lump them all together, both gay and lesbian, into a word used to describe one very specific sexual practice? That makes sense to you? How would you like to have your relationship with the person you love reduced to a specific sex act which you may or may not even do? Because homosexuals don’t actually LOVE each other, right? Because your Bible says that? Where does it say it?

          • Oboehner

            Funny coming from you flag boy, “fundie” is ok with you, hypocrite?
            If queers actually just “loved” each other they would just be friends.

          • StereoMan

            Since you are incapable of not talking about excrement and bodily functions when talking about homosexuals, it’s probably good to let the flag do the talking.

            If homosexuals were friends they would be friends. Because they are wired to be attracted to one another, they can and do fall in love. This is taught in elementary school, what is your excuse for not knowing it?

          • Oboehner

            Does the truth hurt your widow feewings?
            Since you can’t hold a discussion involving free speech, we’re done here – now go wipe you teary little eyes and kiss your boyfriend goodnight.

          • StereoMan

            Whose “truth”, Boner? Yours?

            Free speech isn’t the issue here, consent is, and you can’t seem to handle that. But maybe you’ll get a nice boyfriend of your own one day soon and everything will just make sense. Until the day you understand what love is, it won’t.

          • Valetina

            How do you know it is not a choice? Have you have ever asked a homosexual about if they were born that way or if it was a choice for them? Probably not. Please don’t make such sweeping generalizations if you are not fully informed on the subject.

          • Oboehner

            If you ask a homo if they were born that way of course they will say yes, they don’t want to admit they are sick.

          • Valetina

            They don’t think they are “sick”. They know they are different but they come to accept their sexual orientation. And I bet you could ask the parents of these people and some would say that they saw the early signs. I don’t know why people like you just can’t understand that some were BORN that way.

          • Oboehner

            Deep down they know they are sick and are desperately trying to get acceptance in an attempt to make themselves feel better. NONE were born that way.

          • Valetina

            They don’t want to be accepted. They only want to marry the person they love. They want the same marital rights as hetero couples enjoy.

            Could you tell me why it is not possible that they aren’t born that way? Is it because god wouldn’t create them that way? I don’t understand your insistence on this point.

            So if they weren’t born that way, it must be the environment that they grew up in that caused the “sickness” of being gay? Your thoughts please.

          • Oboehner

            The want acceptance with special rights, why do you think we have all that “hate crimes” crap? A crime is a crime, the motivation is irrelevant.
            It is learned behavior just like Pavlov’s dog. There are different triggers between men and women, but a common one is molestation at an early age. I read an article on that before the gays (who don’t want acceptance) railed to have homosexuality removed from the list of mental defects, it was quite enlightening.

          • Valetina

            “The want acceptance with special rights, why do you think we have all that “hate crimes” crap?”
            No special rights were given with the SCOTUS decision. It simply made it illegal to discriminate against same sex marriage.

            Your hate crime argument is not relevant in this discussion. I do agree with you, a crime is a crime, whatever the motivation.

            “There are different triggers between men and women, but a common one is molestation at an early age.”

            This is just ridiculous. If this was true, the Catholic church would be a BIG contribution to the numbers of homosexuals. A person that is molested at a young age is scarred for life and might be sexually repressed. Why would they be turned “Gay” because they were molested?

          • Oboehner

            Special rights to stomp on the religious beliefs of others.
            The catholic church probably has contributed greatly.
            Why turn gay? Uncle Bill molested his niece, she went through years of pain and anguish because of it. Now she has a hatred and distrust of men, yet still needs an emotional connection… You do the math.

          • Valetina

            What special rights are stomped on with the same sex marriage ruling? You are not forced to marry the same sex, you are not required to take part in any same sex marriage. If you attend church, your church will not be required to perform same sex marriages. I just don’t get the Christians getting all worked up over their rights being violated in some way. I still haven’t heard a reasonable example.

          • Oboehner

            “What special rights are stomped on with the same sex marriage ruling?”
            Special rights TO stomp on the religious beliefs of others, read more slowly next time.

            Baking a cake for a deviant “wedding” is taking part, the religious freedoms of others are being stomped on by forcing people to participate in the perverted lifestyle choice of others who don’t want to.

          • Valetina

            I read your comment and simply wanted an example. You don’t need to get snarky about my reading comprehension.

            The bakery was a public business. Oregon has laws in place stating that it is illegal to discriminate. They discriminated and got sued because of it. If you serve the public you simply cannot do that, If you are owner of a business you must set aside your bigotry and serve the public. If you don’t, then your business will fail once word gets out about your discrimination. The bakery is a perfect example. Once the news got out about the discrimination, the public stopped going to that bakery and the owners had to close shop, just because they were bigots. To call bigotry a religious freedom is appalling!

            Can you give me an example of how your own personal religious rights have been “stomped” on? Have you been forced to marry a guy? Forced to attend a wedding of two guys? Have you gotten sued? Please tell me how persecuted you are.

          • Oboehner

            The Constitutional provision for freedom to practice one’s religion trumps any Oregon law. One can hardly be bigoted against a lifestyle choice. The bakery was a private business which did sell to homos, but did not want to participate in their debauchery by making something to celebrate it violating their beliefs. Basically stomping on their right to practice their religion with someone else’s claim to their sexual perversion. To call a religious belief bigotry is appalling, homosexuality is no different than pedophilia except in the object of one’s deviant sexual desire. That said if you disagree with pedophiles YOU are bigoted.

          • Valetina

            “The Constitutional provision for freedom to practice one’s religion trumps any Oregon law”

            Nope you are incorrect. The bakery was a private sector business they still have to serve the public and can not discriminate. The fact that the bakery was fined shows that they had no legal right to refuse service based on sexual orientation.

            “One can hardly be bigoted against a lifestyle choice.”

            Definition of Bigot “a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices;especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance”

            Of course a person can’t be bigoted against a lifestyle choice silly. But the bakers were being bigoted against homosexuals BECAUSE of their lifestyle choice.

            “homosexuality is no different than pedophilia except in the object of one’s deviant sexual desire.”
            Oh come on that is just being dishonest!. How can you compare a sexual relationship between two consenting adults (whether homo or hetero) to the sexual molestation between an adult and a non-consenting child! You are incorrect again.

            “That said if you disagree with pedophiles YOU are bigoted.”

            So what are you trying to say with that statement? That homo=pedo and if you “disagree” with homos/pedo you are bigoted. FFS! I’m so confused, To bring up the subject of pedophilia into this discussion is irrelevant. Child molestation is a crime, How in the world are you saying that a person can be bigoted against pedophiles! I just don’t get your point, That is a BIG stretch man. All in the name of religion.

            I am actually glad to see this bigotry and absolute stupidity of people from bakers to politicians, people on the street and people on the internet, even pastors preaching and spewing their hate, cloaked in their religious freedoms. THIS is Christianity, It is hate and bigotry and judging for all to see. For all things that Jesus represented in their holy bible, they are not. I can only hope that this hypocrisy only drives people away from religion. Maybe there will be less hate and bigotry with less religion. More love and kindness towards each other,

          • Oboehner

            The fact the bakery was fined is meaningless, people’s rights are trampled on a daily basis, that would be as asinine as saying the fact that the murderous cops who beat Kelly Thomas to death beating the murder rap means that type of thing is good police procedure.
            “as a racial or ethnic group” Sexual perversion is neither, it is a choice and thus cannot be discriminated against.
            Bringing up pedophilia is highly relevant, you are “bigoted” against one sick sex act yet defend another when the causations derive in the same manner – learned behavior.
            Choosing sexual perversion over a constitutionally protected right is ludicrous. There is much more hate being spewed by the deviants and those stupid enough to believe their “born that way” falsehood. How many Christians sue perverts and their businesses out of existence? Talk about hypocrisy.

          • Valetina

            Bud, I give up. Your arguments and points are just ignorant. The more conversation we have, the more ridiculous you sound. Sorry for all of your perceived Christian persecution, it is apparent that it is clouding your critical thinking abilities. Have a good one and keep up that loving Christian attitude!

            WWJD?

          • Oboehner

            Too bad logic and common sense escapes you. Sorry for all of your perceived sexual deviant persecution, it is apparent that it is clouding your critical thinking abilities. Have a good one and keep up that loving liberal attitude!
            BTW Jesus would not recognize the perversion of “marriage”.

    • Tux

      Don’t feed the trolls.

    • http://www.unslaveamerica.com/usurper-obama/ KenyanBornObama

      “Sweetie? Wipe the froth off your mouth. Barack Obama was born in Hawaii to a woman who was an American citizen. You’re not only wrong, you’re pig-headedly stupid wrong.”

      No sweetie, get your head out of your arse and learn the truth. You have NO EVIDENCE whatsoever to prove your claims, therefore you are wrong!

  • Alan Robert Springfield

    Well said. Will be spun to show how extreme He is! The script is clear and the tactics universal for those who hate Jesus Christ and what He teaches us!

    • DNelson

      “Will be spun to show how extreme He is!”

      No “spinning” will be needed. It is quite clear already.

      • Peter Leh

        i think we can just let him keep rolling without any “spin”

      • Alan Robert Springfield

        So I see, it will be said directly! Senators who stand for Christ
        ‘s righteousness are extreme! Sorry , I could have said it that way. I already knew it.

        • DNelson

          Any Senator who suggests that the US should base its laws solely upon Biblical teachings is extreme.

          • Alan Robert Springfield

            Therefore even if it is best for society as a whole and the assurance the population will continue to replentish and or grow? ALL OTHER REASONS THAT ACTUALLY CREATED THE SOCIETY IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY? jUST FORGET TAR BECAUSE IT FEELS GOOD TO PROMOTE INDECENCY. Wonderful thinking…….throw out murder, throw out all ASPECTS OF MORALITY, WHY NOT? What else can we re-define? Umm Beastality? Why not? Hmmmm.

          • Alan Robert Springfield

            All this ….just to give same sex (homosexuality) some dignity? Because it has nothing to do with ‘rights’ now does it.

          • DNelson

            “and the assurance the population will continue to replentish and or grow? ”

            How does allowing two citizens of the same gender to enter into civil marriage negatively affect the ability of the population to replenish and grow?

            “ALL OTHER REASONS THAT ACTUALLY CREATED THE SOCIETY IN THIS GREAT COUNTRY?”

            How did not allowing two citizens of the same gender to enter into civil marriage contribute to creating society?

            “BECAUSE IT FEELS GOOD TO PROMOTE INDECENCY”

            What is considered indecent and what is not, is a matter of opinion. Our laws are not based solely upon one person’s or a group’s, views about what is decent. They are based upon the constitution.

            “throw out murder, throw out all ASPECTS OF MORALITY, WHY NOT? What else can we re-define? Umm Beastality? Why not? Hmmmm.”

            How is it reasonable to compare the allowance of two citizens to access the State provided right of marriage to allowing murder and beastality?

          • Martin Rizley

            So you are making a distinction between what you call civil marriage and religious or Christian marriage? Would you allow for that distinction to be used as a basis for business practices? For example, may a baker say, “I don’t bake cakes for mere ‘civil’ weddings, but I do bake cakes for Christian weddings (weddings as defined by the Bible– one man and one woman)”? Why or why not? Can a probate judge say, “I don’t perform weddings that are mere ‘civil’ weddings, but I do perform Christian weddings between a man and a woman?” Why or why not? If your answer is, no, then the fact you distinguish between religious and civil weddings means nothing when it comes to protecting the free religious exercise of other people. Your view then of same-sex ‘marriage’ as a civil right affects the religious liberty of other people who have religious and moral convictions about providing services for any ceremony allegedly joining two men or two women in the one flesh union of marriage. If redefining marriage restricts religious free exercise, then it does affect me and every citizen in American by negatively impacting a God-given and constitutionally secured right. That’s why so many people in this country it oppose it, and rightly so, and why so many will never recognize as legitimate a court ruling imposing the redefinition of marriage on all the states, contrary to the Constitution and the rule of law.

          • DNelson

            “So you are making a distinction between what you call civil marriage and religious or Christian marriage?”

            There is a distinction. Civil marriage is a legal contract provided by the government. Religious marriage ceremonies are just that – religious ceremonies.

            “For example, may a baker say, “I don’t bake cakes for mere ‘civil’ weddings, but I do bake cakes for Christian weddings (weddings as defined by the Bible– one man and one woman)”?”

            No. If a business offers its goods to the public it is not allowed to discriminate based upon religious belief or gender. In addition, in some places but certainly not all, a business is not allowed to discriminate based upon sexuality.

            “when it comes to protecting the free religious exercise of other people.”

            The free exercise of religion does not mean that people who choose to open a business and choose to offer certain products and exempt from anti-discrimination laws based upon religious beliefs.

            “If redefining marriage restricts religious free exercise, then it does affect me and every citizen in American by negatively impacting a God-given and constitutionally secured right.”

            There is not constitutional right to choose to open a business and choose to offer certain products and then discriminate in the provision of those products/services. The Constitution provides protections that the government will not “prohibit” the expression of religious beliefs. Not that the government will allow the expression of religious beliefs in any way, at any time, and in any manner.

            “why so many will never recognize as legitimate a court ruling imposing the redefinition of marriage on all the states”

            You are free to recognize or not recognize anything you care to.

            “contrary to the Constitution and the rule of law.”

            In what way is allowing two citizens of the same gender to enter into civil marriage “contrary to the Constitution and the rule of law”?

          • Martin Rizley

            Your position is patently self-contradictory. First, you make a huge distinction between civil marriage and religious marriage, saying, in essence, they are not the same thing at all, and therefore, no one is forcing Christians to abandon their religious view of marriage. But then, if a baker uses that very distinction in his advertising, by saying, “I offer this product, but not another,” you say he is distinguishing between things that are not different at all. . If he wants to say in his advertising, “I bake religious wedding cakes, but not civil wedding cakes,” you say he can’t do that, because civil and religious weddings cakes are the very same thing– no distinction between them. If civil and religious weddings are not the same thing, however– so that acknowledging the alleged right to gay ‘civil’ weddings affects no one’s religiosu free exercise– how can you then deny that the same distinction between civil and religious weddings has implications with respect to cakes, as well, if religious free exercise is to be preserved. Our government, in that case, must recognize a distinction between ‘religious’ wedding cakes and ‘civil’ wedding cakes, and allow bakers the freedom to bake the former but not the latter. Every business person in fact, must then be free to provide services and cater venues for religious ceremonies– in keeping with his own religious views– while declining to provide services and cater venues for civil ceremonies. Yet you would deny that liberty to business people, all the while claiming that ‘civil’ same-sex marriage does not trample on anyone’s religious liberty. With all due respect, that strikes me as hypocritical. then be applied to wedding cakes, as well.

            The consequence of your position is that the distinction you make between civil and religious weddings means zero. It is clear that the LGBT lobby is determined to take away religious liberty from Christians by this change of law, and to force Christians to run their daily lives and their businesses based on a secular humanistic value system, rather than their own value system as Christians. You want to force everyone to operate in the public square based on your definitions of what a marriage, a wedding, and a wedding cake are, rather than respecting the religious and moral convictions of others as to the meaning of these terms.

            So this is a religious liberty issue, like it or not. That is because, ultimately, marriage is a religious concept in the sense that it is always based on a view of there being or not being self-evident design in nature regarding the proper use of the sexual organs. Those who believe nature self-assembled by an undirected evolutionary process see no “divine design” in nature, so they believe that basically “anything goes” with respect to sexual activity as long as it is between consenting adults. There is no such thing, ultimately, as sexual morality, any more than there is ‘moral’ way of eating an ice cream cone or choosing the flavor you prefer. Those who believe God created the world, however, believe his design for human life is evident in the creation itself– that it is a self-evident fact he made the male and female reproductive systems to be joined together for the establishment of stable families, and marriage serves that end by producing a strong covenantal bond between a man and a woman who enter into that union. Even the marriage of infertile couples advances that end by modeling faithful monogamous love between the sexes, according to God’s design.

            No law can justly force people to act against their moral and religious convictions; therefore, this ‘religious liberty’ issue is not going away, and if homosexuals are going to insist on the right to civil marriage, they had better insist with equal force on the right of citizens to define marriage, wedding, wedding cake differently than they do, and to decline from participating in their ceremonies in any way, without suing them based on anti-discrimination laws. That is a sure way to provoke strong opposition to the homosexual community, as people begin to see that community as hateful, vindictive, tyrannical and intolerant of others’ religious liberty.

          • DNelson

            “First, you make a huge distinction between civil marriage and religious marriage, saying, in essence, they are not the same thing at all”

            it’s not a “huge” distinction. It’s simply a distinction.

            “no one is forcing Christians to abandon their religious view of marriage.”

            No one is. Christians, as well as others, are free to hold to whatever views they care to regarding marriage.

            “But then, if a baker uses that very distinction in his advertising, by saying, “I offer this product, but not another,” you say he is distinguishing between things that are not different at all.”

            A wedding cake is a wedding cake. it looks the same, tastes the same, and is decorated the same, regarding of who is getting married.

            “Our government, in that case, must recognize a distinction between ‘religious’ wedding cakes and ‘civil’ wedding cakes, and allow bakers the freedom to bake the former but not the latter.”

            You are certainly free to pursue such regulations if you care to.

            “No law can justly force people to act against their moral and religious convictions”

            Agreed. Operating a business is a choice. Therefore, there is no “forcing” as “forcing”, by its nature, means an absence of choice.

          • Martin Rizley

            You have basically affirmed a fascist view of the relationship between private businesses and the state. Business owners are simply state functionaries, with no freedom to own and operate their business in accordance with their religious and moral convictions. If the state tells a Jewish deli owner he must start serving pork sandwiches because the state sees no moral or qualitative difference between pork and beef, he must either comply or get out of the deli business. After all, ‘operating a business is a choice. Therefore, there is no ‘forcing’ him to violate his conscience since he can get out of the deli business.”

            Let’s say the next regime in Washington is committed to PETA principles and they say that that all grocers must stop selling meat, since animals have the same right to life as people. Let’s say they make the slaughtering of animals and the selling of their flesh for food a criminal offense. They might argue that grocers are perfectly free to live in accordance with their religious and moral convictions, because they can get out of the grocery business if they so choose.

            Nevertheless, I believe that many Americans, who believe in our constitutionally guaranteed freedoms with every fiber of their being, would not tolerate for a moment such fascist pretensions on the part of Washington autocrats, just as they will not put up with the ‘homofascist’ pretensions of a government that tells bakers, photographers, florists, etc., that they must operate according to the newly invented, radically leftist, culturally Marxist redefinitons of marriage, wedding, wedding cake, etc.– or close shop! We simply are not going to put up with that sort of tyranny.

          • DNelson

            “You have basically affirmed a fascist view of the relationship between private businesses and the state.”

            Not in the least. Anti-discrimination laws were put into place by either a vote of the people or their elected representatives.

            “If the state tells a Jewish deli owner he must start serving pork sandwiches”

            The State has no such ability.

            “Let’s say they make the slaughtering of animals and the selling of their flesh for food a criminal offense.”

            Congress certainly has the ability to pass such a law, however, the constitutionality of such a law is doubtful.

            “just as they will not put up with the ‘homofascist’ pretensions of a government that tells bakers, photographers, florists, etc., that they must operate according to the newly invented, radically leftist, culturally Marxist redefinitons of marriage, wedding, wedding cake, etc.– or close shop!”

            Again, anti-discrimination laws were put into place by either a vote of the people or their elected representatives. If you feel that they are not right, you are certainly welcome to challenge them in court (if you are personally affected), start a campaign to repeal the laws, or work to have representatives of the people elected to office that will repeal the laws.

            How was making same-gender civil marriage legal done is a Marxist way?

            “or close shop!”

            They are not required to close shop. They are free to no longer offer wedding cakes as part of what they provide to customers.

            “We simply are not going to put up with that sort of tyranny.”

            Laws put into place by either a vote of the people or their elected representatives is not “tyranny”. Your false persecution complex is just that – false.

          • Martin Rizley

            Anti-discrimination laws, as originally conceived, were based on the principle that “all men are created equal” and are therefore entitled to be treated with equality under the law. But now, our government is trying to sweep the public square of all ‘religious’ principles, so the foundation of anti-discrimination laws (the fact that all men are created equal by a Creator who endows them with certain unalienable rights) is also being swept away, as our leftist leaders tell us that our rights come from government, not God. A new, completely arbitrary concept of ‘discrimination’ is arising, which denies the rootedness of our legal system in “the laws of nature and nature’s God” by elevating the arbitrary will of the government to a level of divine supremacy.

            As a result, the freedom of business owners to make morally discriminating decisions regarding their business practices, based on religious and moral conviction, is being absolutely denied based on a fascist view of the relationship between private businesses and the state; so the very concept of discrimination is being turned on its head, and new anti-discrimination laws, cut loose from any belief in God-given rights and natural law, are being used as a tool of discrimination against people of faith, whose moral convictiosn will not allow them to operate their businesses on the basis of radical redefinitions of ancient terms.

            This was never the aim of anti-discrimination laws as long as our country remained grounded on a Judeo-Christian foundation that recognized God as the source of law and the source of right. The context of anti-discrimination laws has now shifted. Originally, these laws arose in order to keep business owners from discriminating against people because of some God-given, immutable, inborn trait like race– not to institutionalize the normalization of a lifestyle that has been regarded as immoral and contrary to nature by countless generations of people throughout Western civilization. When anti-discrimination laws are used to discriminate against people of faith by telling them, ‘you can make no morally discriminating or religiously informed decisions in how you run your business, but must surrender your conscience to Big Brother,’ then they become unjust laws, and as Martin Luther King Jr. said, “An unjust law is no law at all.” King did not simply challenge unjust laws in court, start a campaign to repeal them, or work to have representatives of the people elected to office that would repeal them; he started a social movement of civil disobedience by telling people they were under no obligation to keep unjust laws, a movement in which large numbers of people refused to comply with such laws because of their inherent injustice and immorality. I believe we are seeing the beginnings of such a civil disobedience movement here in America to the unjust, immoral demands of a government the is clearly overstepping the bounds of its legitimate authority, and using arbitrary ‘anti-discrimination’ laws in a tyrannical manner, as a tool of anti-Christian, (and generally anti-religious) oppression and discrimination.

          • getstryker

            I have read the entire debate and your understanding, ability to communicate your points and write convincingly is impressive. You have an excellent understanding of the subject matter. Thank you for the effort you put forward. Well done.

          • BeccaJoe

            It was a true pleasure to read your posts.

          • Noreen L

            You’ll have to throw out most of the laws in the US then, which were all based on the Judeo-Christian principles found in the Old Testament! The only laws that will be left are those for abortion and perverted behaviors….

          • DNelson

            Our laws are based upon the Constitution, not the OT.

        • Bilbo

          Yes. Thinking we should dictate our lives based on a book written by a bunch of bronze age farmers and goatherders, who didn’t know what a cell was or where the sun went at night, is not only extremism; it’s stupidity.

          Thankfully, religiosity is in a gigantic death-spiral in this country as more and more people realize just HOW stupid basing your lives around such poorly written material is.

        • DNelson

          No, Senators who suggest that our laws should be based solely upon religious belief – Christian or otherwise – which is in conflict with our Constitution, are extreme.

      • Alan Robert Springfield

        See up top

    • Bilbo

      Your bronze age book of fairytales and invisible cloud wizard of choice mean about as much to me as Ra, Vishnu, Poseidon, Osiris, Minerva, Shiva, Odin, Jupiter, or any of the other 8,000 deities man has invented over the ages mean to you or our laws:

      not at all.

    • az_kikr

      DEAR BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN CHRIST, PLS. HELP US IN PASSING THE INFO. TO CHRISTIANS WORLDWIDE
      PLEASE READ.
      KINDLY REPLACE (DOT) WITH .
      (1) If you’re gay, I want you to know that I don’t hate you
      www(DOT)adam4d(DOT)com/dont-hate/
      (2) History clearly tells the story of what happens next when courts decide the fate of your child and the generations to come. –www(DOT)worldcongressoffamilies(DOT)org
      www(DOT)wcf9(DOT)org/files/2015/06/SCOTUS_Marriage_React(DOT)pdf
      www(DOT)focusonthefamily(DOT)com/socialissues/promos/supreme-court-marriage-decision
      (3) No Court Can Change What Marriage Is –Jim Daly of www(DOT)focusonthefamily(DOT)org
      www(DOT)jimdaly(DOT)focusonthefamily(DOT)com/no-court-can-change-what-marriage-is/
      (4) “Homosexuality Is Not Hardwired,” Concludes Dr. Francis S. Collins, Head Of The Human Genome Project
      www(DOT)narth(DOT)org/docs/nothardwired(DOT)html
      (5) We are committed to helping ex-gays and parents and friends of gays who want help, hope and community.
      www(DOT)pfox(DOT)org/
      (6) We are a coalition of ministries serving those who desire to overcome sinful relational and sexual issues in their lives and those impacted by such behavior, particularly homosexuality.
      www(DOT)restoredhopenetwork(DOT)com/
      THANK YOU. PEACE AND GOD BE WITH YOU ALL!

      *****

      HISTORICALLY, WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?
      SINCE APA’S ESTABLISHMENT IN 1890s, APA PIONEERED ALMOST EVERY KNOWN MODERN PSYCHOLOGICAL STUDY. UNFORTUNATELY, ACTIVISTS WITHIN THE APA DID NOT ADOPT THE LEONA TYLER PRINCIPLE WHERE…
      “In essence, the principle states that when psychologists are speaking as members of their profession, any advocacy in which they engage should be based on scientific data and demonstrable professional experience. Perhaps Dr. Tyler, then APA’s president, was able to foresee the day when organized psychology would be influenced by activism, and she wanted to ensure that psychology as a profession would not be eroded.”
      (1) Dr. Nicholas Cummings says that since he was APA president in 1979-80, the group has been “totally hijacked” by the homosexual/lesbian political lobby. “It’s incredible,” he said; having personally seen “hundreds of people change,” the view that all homosexuality is “hard-wired” and same-sex attraction can never be changed is simply “not supported by scientific evidence.”
      www(DOT)josephnicolosi(DOT)com/former-apa-president-says/
      (2) In 2013, 1.6% of UK adults identified their sexual identity as gay, lesbian or bisexual. –United Kingdom’s Office for National Statistics
      www(DOT)ons(DOT)gov(DOT)uk/ons/rel/integrated-household-survey/integrated-household-survey/january-to-december-2013/index(DOT)html

      WHAT’S NEXT?
      More supporters of various “marriage” will come-out sooner than we think because of SC’s approval of same-sex “marriage”. Same-sex “marriage” is now paving the way for more types of “marriages” — lobbyists, activists, and their supporters with their monies will push for POLYGAMY, PEDOPHILIA, BESTIALITY, PEOPLE MARRYING INANIMATE OBJECTS, and more, see this..
      www(DOT)thefw(DOT)com/weirdest-marriages-of-the-world-photos-videos/
      Very soon, majority of America’s SC will approve them too.

      WHAT DO YOU ANSWER TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE THESE FACTS?
      IF UNTRUE, FILE A CASE AGAINST THE SAID INSTITUTIONS SO THERE LICENSES WOULD BE REVOKED AND THEY’LL BE IMPRISONED IF APPLICABLE. I’VE READ ARTICLES AND WATCH NEWS ABOUT SCIENCE PEOPLE BEING UNFUNDED OR UNLICENSED OR JAILED FOR NOT UPHOLDING ETHICAL STANDARDS IN THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE.

  • Stephen Peele

    WOW, this guy is right the heck on…

  • Stephen Peele

    We should be tired of the activists who do nothing more but undermine everything decent…

  • God child

    May u continue to have the strength to speak up against this sin

  • Randy Davis

    I wish we all would speak up in everyday life and hope that the people that have access to the media speak and let the truth be known. The end is very near so prepare yourself.

    • Jesse

      lmao. Wasn’t the end very near 50 years ago, when the religious tried to stop interracial marriage?

      • Law77

        2 Peter 3:8 “But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.”

        • Valetina

          So this means that the earth was created in 6 thousand years and not 6 days?

          • Law77

            That’s what Creationists thinks so. As humans, we have a limited life span, a life span that cannot reach a thousand years, so we cannot know for sure how many years it has passed when the universe was created.

          • Law77

            It can also be that, it can also be interpreted as 6 days. God is confusing like that.

  • Randy Davis

    Jesus is and will always be lord of all and EVERY tongue will confess.

    • Blessed

      EVERY tongue WILL confess……even the LGBT……oh what a day that will be, I had a man who is homosexual tell me one time that HE will tell GOD that all he was doing was loving…..He said his earthly father didn’t have a problem with it so why should GOD………HE will CONFESS…….whether he likes it or not…..regardless of what his earthly father thought about his sexual orientation.

    • PlanetoftheAtheists

      That sounds like something ISIS would say

      • Tom Feuhrer

        SSDD

  • James Staten

    On Christ the Rock I stand, all other ground is sinking sand.

    • Faithwalker

      Amen!

    • PlanetoftheAtheists

      Hey, I like Chris Rock too! We should hang out

    • Bilbo

      On Odin the Allfather I stand, all other ground is sinking sand!

    • Rob McClain

      Humanity has been doing the copy and paste with saviors for at least 4500 years, your particular Savior is no more interesting and no less false than any of the six that preceded him.

      Your particular set of Christian, or Muslim, or Jewish beliefs have no bearing on how a secular government should operate. Not know, not ever.

  • Lisa

    Matthew 24:12-13
    Because lawlessness is increased, most people’s love will grow cold, but the one who endures to the end, he will be saved.

    • lonbo

      As always, the lawless ones are the gawd fearing delusionals.

      • Lisa

        You do know God fearing people believe in God?

        • lonbo

          Believing in “God” is not a virtue.

          • Lisa

            Why do you say that?

          • lonbo

            Russian orthodox thugs smashing sculptures; Muslim thugs hacking bloggers to death with machetes; Catholic priests claiming that rape is god’s will; Hasidic rabbis sexually abusing children; Sikh thugs disrupting weddings; airplanes flying into buildings, genital mutilation; decapitations, etc…………………….

          • Lisa

            Yes the false religions who don’t really know God do those things. A true believer in God would do none of those things.

          • lonbo

            Of course, all of those “who don’t really know God,” believe that they are the true believers and that you are a silly girl. It’s a good thing that you can tell the difference because no one else can. Cheers!

          • Lisa

            I think there’s other people that can tell the difference.

          • lonbo

            LOL! You go girl! You’re quite the accomplished theologian!

          • Lisa

            I’m not a theologian but I am a sinner saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.

          • lonbo

            Sin is a theological term denoting that which would separate one from God. There is no god so you are not a sinner. I suspect that you are a good and thoughtful person who is vulnerable christian indoctrination. Most of us have been there.

          • Lisa

            There is a God and I am a sinner and I have been saved by Jesus who died for my sins. Sounds like you may have known that at one time?

  • All In

    I agree. This is a fight against the devil himself. Evil flourishes when good people do nothing! This us our watch. It is time to rise up and stand for God!

    • Rob McClain

      It must be really tough to live in a world where you have imaginary friends and fabricated enemies.

    • Bilbo

      Sad that your imaginary friend for adults can’t come down and sort things out himself :'(

    • Bone Wilder

      The devil will rise and bring forth his minions. That’s right, Freddy Kruger, the Boogeyman, Jason Voorhees, Gout, Tom Cruise and Billy Cosby are all coming to get you!

  • webshade

    The man has courage!!
    And the cowardly remain silent by the barrel full!

  • Carlos A Donate

    Amen!

  • Jim H

    South Carolina ranked 42th in per capita income in the nation. It is the 47th highest in unemployment. I guess they have been too busy fighting the forces of darkness (with the taxpayer’s dollar) to worry about mundane stuff like that. In addition, as of December of 2012, a majority of residents in South Carolina (54%) supported either marriage or civil union for same-sex couples. (Public Policy Polling), so they aren’t even representing the constituents (who pay their salaries) that aren’t too concerned about it.

    • All In

      Sin is always popular, which is why Jesus said He is the narrow gate. Supporting sin means you are supporting the losing side. The eternal consequences are staggering.

      • Jim H

        So its moral to betray the people who put you in office by not working for their best interests and instead just administering “the opiate of the masses” to them?
        You are naïve, and are being played, if you believe these clowns are doing anything but pandering to people like you, while their real efforts are directed at serving the interests of the highest bidder.

    • REVASS

      Hell i.e. eternal destruction is sure for all homosexuals and lesbians and those who support them. is it naturally reasonable having same sex as partner in the house? if it is socially right as some exclaimed, why are they looking for surrogate mothers for procreation? is that not the purpose of marriage? America is falling if they refuse to repent.

      • Jim H

        I was wondering why you care so much about other people’s behaviors. I think that people should be free to believe whatever they want and act however they want, as long as they don’t force anyone to do likewise or harm anyone else.

        If you are right and what they have chosen leads to their eternal destruction is that not their choice, just as it is your right to choose to not do that. They know what people like yourself believe. They are obviously not concerned about how you feel about what they do.
        However, fewer and fewer people as you do. Something like one third of even evangelicals support gay marriage. If you look at just the millennials who identify as evangelicals the percentage is close to sixty percent.
        Unless something has changed this country, our politicians are support to represent the majority of their constituents. The SCOTUS decision said essentially that the constitution agrees with the will of the majority, I don’t see how you can justify your reaction other than just that it doesn’t conform to your particular beliefs.
        Sorry, but It is not supposed to work that way.

        • Candice White

          Jim you are full of s–t

          • Jim H

            That was refreshing. You don’t even pretend to try to engage in intelligent civil dialog, address anything that I said, or refute my facts. You just jump directly to sophomoric ad hominem attacks that aren’t even clever or amusing.

            If that was too cerebral for you lets try this.

            I may be full of s**t, but you appear to just be stupid. I can take a laxative, but there’s no cure for stupid.

      • Bilbo

        And you base this on the translated, re-translated, re-re-translated, and re-re-re-translated scribblings of a bunch of bronze age farmers and goatherders who didn’t know what a cell was or where the sun went at night.

        Sorry, but your invisible cloud wizard means about as much to me as Ra, Vishnu, Osiris, Poseidon, Minerva, Jupiter, Odin, Anubis, or any of the other 8,000 deities man has invented over the ages mean to you:

        not at all.

    • BarkingDawg

      Boby Jindal’s Lousiana is in the same boat.

      • Jim H

        Jindal amazes me. At one time Mississippi was the lowest state in the nation on all measures of prosperity. It likely still is last or close to last. All he seems to do is pander to conservative Christians and does nothing to improve the lot of the people he is supposed to represent. Of course,
        Mississippians may finally catching on. His approval rating was way down last I heard.

        However, isn’t he considering a run for president, so he can do for they country what he’s done for Mississippi? Don’t people get the fact that conservative politicians pander on issues like SSM and abortion, which takes the focus off of them selling out to the highest bidder like the Koch brothers?

  • Crusader777

    The Holy Spirit to the Churches:
    It is time to arise and shine my
    love, my bride. The time is short before I open the door for my bride to
    come in. Where evil abounds Grace much more abounds. Stop worrying
    about the things of this world and fill your lamps with oil and let them
    shine bright for the world to see.
    My Church, my bride I command to
    wake up from your slumber and unite as one to prepare for my soon
    return. You must arise and shine my love and power into all of the dark
    places and scatter the enemy in every direction. Those who truly believe
    will go forth and in My Name show the world my Word is true with signs
    and wonders and miracles.
    The day to repent and to live a holy life
    has come, be ye Holy as I am Holy. To the leaders of my Church I warn
    you this very day to prepare my people for my soon return. You must stop
    running my Father’s House as a business and truly focus on saving men’s
    souls and uniting my Churches with things in common. Judgement will
    start in my House first and the time is now, leaders pray and repent and
    do what is right in My sight.
    I have lit up the Heaven’s with signs
    and sent my prophets forth to warn people and yet they ignore the things
    that are there for all to see. I will pour out my glory in my house one
    last time to bring in a great harvest and I command those called by my
    name to arise and take a stand for righteousness sake. The time is now
    ARISE MY LOVE!

  • Dave_L

    In the Book of Revelation symbols represent spiritual truth. Many look for the symbol to appear but miss the symbol’s message. While many expect an Antichrist to inscribe a 666 in the hand or forehead of the damned, they should focus on the meaning behind the symbol.

    Even if the symbol were literally fulfilled, it presents a situation where an Antichrist power will demand obedience to sinful laws. Those refusing to comply will suffer loss of buying and selling rights, and even loss of life. The Apostle John tells us The Mark of the Beast 666 is the number of man. “Here is wisdom: the one who has understanding, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man’s number, and his number is six hundred sixty-six.” (Revelation 13:18, LEB)

    Throughout history and today Christians believe the Papacy/Islam is the Antichrist. But the Apostle John says there were many already in his day. We can see Antichrist developing in America with the recent SSM laws and the loss of business rights for refusing the mark of man over God.

  • DNelson

    You go, Senator Bright. Stand up! To heck with this Constitutional Republic, let’s turn the US into a Christian Theocracy.

    Isn’t it wonderful that we live in a nation where people are allowed to express their views?

    • All In

      > Isn’t it wonderful that we live in a nation where people are allowed to express
      their views?

      Unless you are a Christian and anti-gay and anti-sin?

      Wouldn’t a Christian Theocracy be great!

      • Lark62

        This man seems to be speaking just fine.

        Freedom of speech means one can say what they want. It does not protect anyone from contempt from those who find those words disgusting.

        Take a look at theocracies in history. Look at how many flavors of “true christianity” currently exist. What makes you sure that your flavor would end up in top after all the bloodshed?

        • All In

          There isn’t any bloodshed, unless you are referring to atheist regimes over the last 100 years that have killed more people than all religious wars throughout the entirety of history.

          • Lark62

            The conquistadors were such peace loving people. All the european wars pitting christian against christian were fought with rubber swords. Riighhhtttt.

          • Jim H

            Hitler for one wasn’t an theist.

          • PlanetoftheAtheists

            Funny how the most atheistic nations on Earth are also the most democratic, healthy, advanced and peaceful though, huh? You people are part of a religion based in hate and intolerance and you would NEVER have written our Constitution or allowed us to progress. Religion retards society and its demise is near. Praise Darwin for that!

          • Angel Triumphant

            Darwin… Really?
            Check into his deathbed confession…
            He said his theory was Wrong, it was All LIES…
            funny how they still haven’t gotten around to wide spread publishing that tidbit of information…

          • ThinkRationally

            Darwin’s alleged deathbed confession was a story from one woman, Lady Hope, and denied by his family (including his daughter, who was present at his deathbed, and confirmed that Lady Hope was not).

            But that doesn’t even matter. Even if Darwin had denounced his own theory, the scientific research and discoveries over the last 150 years have firmly established evolution–multiple lines of inquiry in multiple scientific disciplines converge toward the same conclusions. Spread the probable lie of whatever you think Darwin said on his deathbed all you want; it doesn’t affect the science behind the theory of evolution one single, tiny little bit. The fact that you think it does speaks volumes. One should not simply grasp hold of anything, however unlikely to be true, that supports their worldview.

          • Bilbo

            Your tinfoil hat-wearing delusional conspiracy theorist nonsense is adorable, especially when it’s debunked by even just a minute or two spent on google :3

          • Angel Triumphant

            Google?
            I have a much higher authority…
            Evolution is a lie.
            Not here to debate – but to warn, Jesus is returning soon. Seek Him out while He may be found… time is very short…

          • Bilbo

            Saying they were ‘atheist’ regimes is like saying they were ‘math’ regimes because they also utilized the properties of mathematics and mathematical learning. None of these regimes had atheism as a focal point. They were totalitarian regimes, that didn’t want any ideology whatsoever competing with the state.

            But hey, nice try though. I’m sure that argument actually passes in whatever circles you hang out in.

      • Jim H

        How can you say that Christians can’t speak their views about being anti-gay and anti-sin, when you are doing just that on a public forum full of people just like yourself doing the same thing? Just by saying it you are refuting your own argument that you can’t say it.

      • Rob McClain

        Sure! When does the modern Inquisition begin?

      • Bilbo

        You are free to have thinking befitting whatever stone-age troglodyte you care to embody. That doesn’t mean you’re free from the repercussions of your idiotic ideology.

      • DNelson

        “Unless you are a Christian and anti-gay and anti-sin?”

        You are supposedly a Christian, and anti-gay, and anti-sin. You are expressing your views, as are many others. Therefore, your statement is false.

        “Wouldn’t a Christian Theocracy be great!”

        If you don’t like freedom, liberty, and equality, sure it would. So I take it you don’t like those things. How fortunate you don’t live in a theocracy and are able to express your views regarding what you don’t like. Perhaps you should consider moving to a country that is operated as a Christian Theocracy. Someplace like……hmmmmm……well I guess there isn’t a country like that. Well maybe you could start your own. Christlandia.

    • az_kikr

      HISTORICALLY, WHAT REALLY HAPPENED?
      SINCE APA’S ESTABLISHMENT IN 1890s, APA PIONEERED ALMOST EVERY KNOWN MODERN PSYCHOLOGICAL STUDY. UNFORTUNATELY, ACTIVISTS WITHIN THE APA DID NOT ADOPT THE LEONA TYLER PRINCIPLE WHERE…
      “In essence, the principle states that when psychologists are speaking as members of their profession, any advocacy in which they engage should be based on scientific data and demonstrable professional experience. Perhaps Dr. Tyler, then APA’s president, was able to foresee the day when organized psychology would be influenced by activism, and she wanted to ensure that psychology as a profession would not be eroded.”
      (1) Dr. Nicholas Cummings says that since he was APA president in 1979-80, the group has been “totally hijacked” by the homosexual/lesbian political lobby. “It’s incredible,” he said; having personally seen “hundreds of people change,” the view that all homosexuality is “hard-wired” and same-sex attraction can never be changed is simply “not supported by scientific evidence.”
      www(DOT)josephnicolosi(DOT)com/former-apa-president-says/
      (2) In 2013, 1.6% of UK adults identified their sexual identity as gay, lesbian or bisexual. –United Kingdom’s Office for National Statistics
      www(DOT)ons(DOT)gov(DOT)uk/ons/rel/integrated-household-survey/integrated-household-survey/january-to-december-2013/index(DOT)html

      WHAT’S NEXT?
      More supporters of various “marriage” will come-out sooner than we think because of SC’s approval of same-sex “marriage”. Same-sex “marriage” is now paving the way for more types of “marriages” — lobbyists, activists, and their supporters with their monies will push for POLYGAMY, PEDOPHILIA, BESTIALITY, PEOPLE MARRYING INANIMATE OBJECTS, and more, see this..
      www(DOT)thefw(DOT)com/weirdest-marriages-of-the-world-photos-videos/
      Very soon, majority of America’s SC will approve them too.

      WHAT DO YOU ANSWER TO THOSE WHO OPPOSE THESE FACTS?
      IF UNTRUE, FILE A CASE AGAINST THE SAID INSTITUTIONS SO THERE LICENSES WOULD BE REVOKED AND THEY’LL BE IMPRISONED IF APPLICABLE. I’VE READ ARTICLES AND WATCH NEWS ABOUT SCIENCE PEOPLE BEING UNFUNDED OR UNLICENSED OR JAILED FOR NOT UPHOLDING ETHICAL STANDARDS IN THEIR AREA OF EXPERTISE.

  • Chelsey

    Oh man!! I love this guy!! He is led by the holy spirt!!! It had to be so hard to stand up there and stand for what is right knowing everyone in the nation who has access to the the media is gonna hate him and drag his name in the dirt and probably sue him for emotional distress, lack of appite, weight gain, and so on!!!! Lol!! I pray God will bless him and let him know we love and support him!! God bless you all

    • Emmanuel

      We need some like him here in the left coast. We have a bunch of “girly men”

  • Law77

    We are viewed by the world as crazy people because we worship something that is not “proven”. But we don’t need to see to have faith. So, let the people of this world see us as crazy worthy in an asylum because we are crazy for God!

    • Ambulance Chaser

      You don’t need proof, but you’re not just dealing with people who agree with you. If Christians want to congregste, discuss Christianity, and work in their churches, you’re right. You don’t need to prove anything to anyone.

      But you aren’t living in a little Christian commune. You deal with the world, and some of us are going to need a little more than your faith to convince us to give up OUR rights.

    • Jim H

      You could also actually just be crazy. If you actually were just crazy, how would you know you weren’t? Isn’t believing in a delusion what makes you delusional?

  • FoJC_Forever

    Secular, humanist rule is sinful rule. Those who falsely worship God through vain traditions are no better than those who reject Jesus (the) Christ altogether. As the country continues to plummet into Darkness, those who know Jesus will shine even brighter.

    Indeed, the Church must continue to Stand in Him, continue to seek His Will, continue to renew our minds through the Scriptures. We must continue to be the Church, regardless of the actions and words of those who have embraced Sin and Wickedness. Glory and honor be unto the Son of God, the Savior and Eternal Word of God!

    Come, LORD Jesus, come!

    • BarkingDawg

      Secular, humanist rule is sinful rule.

      Why do you hate America?

    • Jim H

      Secular rule is the only rule that encourages religious freedom by treating all religions equally and relegating them to private rather than public life.
      Here’s some thoughts from the man who wrote the declaration of independence:

      “Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church & State.”

      “…the subject of religion, a subject on which I have ever been most scrupulously reserved. I have considered it as a matter between every man and his maker, in which no other, & far less the public, had a right to intermeddle.”

      • FoJC_Forever

        No. Those who formed the government weren’t forming a secular nation, as modern antichrists declare. They formed a government which would not impede upon the individual religious freedom of Christians. It’s not secular in nature, but based upon the Truth of a one-on-one relationship with God which Jesus (the) Christ made possible.

        • Bone Wilder

          Funny as I don’t see any mention of that anywhere in any of the founding documents. Well I do see it but it is in modern times from people like you who took a snooze in school but sat front row at imaginary friend time (church)

        • Jim H

          “No. Those who formed the government weren’t forming a secular nation, as modern antichrists declare.”

          No, they were trying to, and did, form a secular government. Christian history revisionists like yourself just ignore the facts that show that. The very first amendment to the constitution was to prohibit the establishment of an official religion and to assure the freedom to practice any, or no, religion.

          “They formed a government which would not impede upon the individual religious freedom of Christians.”

          A secular government does not impede religious freedom of
          Christians, it just does not give them preferential treatment.

          “It’s not secular in nature,”

          Yes, it is.

          “Believing… that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their Legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.”

          –Thomas Jefferson to Danbury Baptists, 1802. ME 16:281

          “but based upon the Truth of a one-on-one relationship with God which Jesus (the) Christ made possible.”

          The written works of Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, Benjamin Franklin and other Founding Fathers of the United States show the strong influence of Deism and the European enlightenment. In fact, one passage from Locke’s Second Treatise of is reproduced verbatim in the Declaration of Independence, the reference to a “long train of abuses.” The phrase life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness is also from Locke.

          Can you please show me where there is a reference to Jesus or the specific God of Christianity in any of our founding documents?
          In fact the late 18th century the Treaty of Tripoli, written in Washington’s administration and signed in Adams’, says in Article 11:

          “As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.”

          • FoJC_Forever

            You’ve made an error. It’s atheistic revisionists which have changed the history books to suit their antichrist view. The USA is not a Christian Nation, but it was not intended to be a secular humanist, atheistic nation either. The Christian Nation is comprised of all those who know and follow Jesus (the) Christ. The USA was intended to be a nation free from the tyranny of the God-less who use any means to oppress others. It was formed to guard against false doctrine becoming Law that others have to follow and obey.

            The latter is happening with the federal and state governments forcing people to honor and participate in homosexual “marriage”. The latter is happening by making people refer pregnant women to abortion clinics where they can have someone murder their baby. The latter is forcing people to have to practice their civilly beneficial religion solely within the confines of a building. Atheists, homosexuals, feminists, pro-choicers, and pagans are all responsible for this American tyranny, and in the 21st century no less.

          • Jim H

            “The USA was intended to be a nation free from the tyranny of the God-less who use any means to oppress others.”

            Are you not at all bothered by facts or do you just have no understanding of history? There were very few, if any, atheists when the nation was founded.

            James Turner, in his book Without God, Without Creed: The Origins of Unbelief in America states that: “The known unbelievers of Europe and America before the French Revolution numbered fewer than a dozen …. disbelief in God remained scarcely more plausible than disbelief in gravity.”

            God was understood as epistemologically necessary, even for those, like the Deists, who rejected organized religion. Knowledge was thought only possible via science, and science required nature be consistent and regulated by discoverable rules. “God” was the ground of those rules, and thus the guarantor of rationality. To be skeptical of God was to be skeptical of the possibility of knowledge.

            The USA was intended to be a nation free of the tyranny that was experienced, not at the hands of atheists, but at the hands of Christians, particularly the Anglican Church of England which had persecuted the Puritans among others.

            You cite all those Christians like you see as boogey men; atheists, homosexuals, feminists, pro-choicers, and pagans. However, the vast majority of the population identifies as Christians, so how is it that with a significant quantitative advantage and God on your side, your boogey men are running roughshod over you and all you can do is whine and cry about it?
            I notice you never provide much more than your delusional babbling in an argument. Is that all you have?

          • Gene Schunek

            Ever get the feeling you’re butting your head against a stonewall?

          • Jim H

            Usually daily.

    • Valetina

      I hear you! When will he come again? My jaw is getting very tired!

  • BarkingDawg

    So, he wants to create a theocracy run under sharia law.

    • All In

      No. You’re mistaken.

      • BarkingDawg

        No, I am not.

        This country was founded on secular law.

        • Emmanuel

          PC 187 and thou shalt not kill- this is very secular

          • Jim H

            Show me a culture that didn’t have that as a rule. A society that had a “kill whoever you want” rule wouldn’t be a society for long.

          • Emmanuel

            slave owners, White men to native Americans, want me to keep going?

          • Jim H

            Those incidents were not art of a “kill whoever you want society”, they were from a Christian society that thought it was okay to kill and enslave “other” societies to achieve their destinies, not unlike the Israelites in Canaan.

            Leviticus 25:44-46 (NIV)

            “‘Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.

            Deuteronomy 20:16-17 NIV

            “Only in the cities of these peoples that the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, you shall not leave alive anything that breathes. 17″But you shall utterly destroy them, the Hittite and the Amorite, the Canaanite and the Perizzite, the Hivite and the Jebusite, as the LORD your God has commanded you,”

  • Peter Leh

    ““I heard our president sing a religious hymn [at the Charleston church
    funeral], and then Friday night, I watched the White House [be] lit up
    in the abomination colors,” Sen. Lee Bright lamented. “It’s time for the
    church to rise up. It’s time for the state of South Carolina to rise
    up.””

    probably the same speech used against Lincoln and those “agitators” in 1865. 🙂

    these people are still alive folks.

  • Peter Leh

    “Bright, a Southern Baptist”

    told you.

  • Alan Robert Springfield

    Lets see what the next traditional word the people want to re-define. How about beastality/
    Lest see if people who support a change in terms want to describe the actual behavior of those taking part in the coming together aspect of their union looks like….lets see pictures and then really get educated. I challenge any reader here to go to the stats on consequences of lgbt sexual conduct, number of partners etc! This is an issue of progressive politics and nothing else!

  • http://kristiann1.com/ Kristi17

    Amen Senator Lee!!

  • StereoMan

    It isn’t too late for them to toss his bigoted butt in jail.

  • PlanetoftheAtheists

    What a lunatic. Bigoted fool who isn’t ashamed to show his treasonous tendencies. They need to impeach this idiot asap. We are a FREE, SECULAR society, where you can practice any religious lunacy you please and this imbecile has no business using his position of authority and our tax dollars to preach anything, especially hate.

  • Isaac Yaple

    How about this. If you have a problem with gay marriage, don’t marry someone of the same sex! Problem solved.

  • fizbanic

    Should have fallen on the sword behind him. The sooner the word stops following fairy tales, the sooner we can work on true peace. That is the only thing that is stopping us from attaining our goals.

  • Dan Ragan

    Imagine no religion

  • Dan Ragan

    Only idiots believe in fairy tales

  • Tom Feuhrer

    If you or your friends or anyone else does not like living in a country with laws that allow you to believe any fantasy you choose, find some place else.

  • Chris Walsh

    Dear Senator: If you don’t like gay sex, don’t have any. If you don’t like gay marriage, don’t propose to a man.

    On the other hand, if you don’t like the rule of law, carry on.

  • Jesse

    So does he also believe that we need to ban all divorces as well? Doesn’t the cult believe divorce is against their religion or something?

    • Law77

      Matthew 19:9 “And I say to you: whoever divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another, commits adultery.”

  • Tom

    GO FUCK YOURSELF, ‘MERICA!

  • lonbo

    All this rising up talk sounds like wishful thinking to me.

  • John Mark IB

    Wow how sad, that at a site that says Christian News, you have over 90% of atheists communists anti Christs plain nasty intentioned individuals looking to suck people into their little games, with nothing of any truth or real value to impart? How sad, that as the once great and respectable American nation, and it’s society, is crumbling downward like the military Roman power of old, and being filled by the new religion of selective tolerance moral relativism, and no absolute truth or morals and values, sad too they allow the vulgar to leave filthy remarks that reveal the retarded in and lack of decency here as well, well does GOD’S Holy Word say in His Preserved Words in the only book GOD ever wrote The Bible KJV, Psalms 14 & 53, the fool hath said in his heart there is no God! and you reap what you sow, GOD bless this lone voice who has the courage to stand up and speak the truth, truth which the masses of today are willingly ignorant of and having no final authority except themselves, they are lost and bound for a Devils Hell where they will spend all of eternity in weeping and gnashing of teeth outer darkness alone, but that is unless they repent and are truly born again there is hope!
    Here’s the hope http:// faithsaves. net
    http:// pillarandground. org/home/page_id=36
    www. Nowtheendbegins. com
    Where are the true real Christians the true few that will also stand though this evil corrupt world and society does their best to do away with the salt that stings their beloved sins? Interesting it was a southern baptist of which took the stand and they have long ago been given over or into modern and contemporary weakened cold purpose driven so called Christianity, would the true Baptists Christians do their part to also shine the light the everlasting Gospel light, to all you haters here’s the bottom line you will die one day soon question is what will you do with Jesus? The man Christ Jesus? Only one life twill soon be past, only what’s done for Christ will last!

  • Martin Rizley

    Excellent bold call to action by this courageous senator from South Carolina. He honors his office by casting off the chains of political correctness and of tyranny to do his job of protecting the God-given unalienable rights of the people he was elected to serve, whose interests he has a God-given duty to defend. May God bless and strengthen him, and may his tribe increase among our elected officials!

  • Dee

    Good for him! I pray we have more Christians in politics who have the guts to stand up for God.

    “And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.” Ephesians 5:11,12

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Praise God for Senator Bright! However, it would be time better spent if he were to join in exposing the genesis for the recent Supreme Court decision in favor of same-sex “marriage.” Until we do, America’s woes are only going to continue to escalate.

    Clue: There was no homosexual agenda or same-sex “marriages” in 17th-century America whose governments of, by, and for God were established upon His unchanging morality as reflected in His commandments, statutes, and judgments.

    Had the late 18th-century founders (like their 17th-century Christian Colonial predecessors) established government and society upon Yahweh’s unchanging moral law (including Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13) there would be no homosexual agenda today because no sodomite or lesbian would dare risk exposing themselves petitioning government for their “rights.” And any judge ruling on behalf of the homosexuals would find himself complicit in a capital crime.

    For more on how Yahweh’s immutable moral law applies and should be implemented today, see free online book “Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Online Books page and scroll down to title.

    Then find out how much you REALLY know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar and receive a FREE book that EXAMINES the Constitution by the Bible.

    • Grundune

      Troll Alert

      Ted R. Weiland is advertising his anti-U.S. Constitution business, again.

      Yes, it’s sad, but a preacher has been reduced to ranting against the U.S.
      Constitution instead of saving souls. At least he’s not preaching the
      word of God for filthy lucre because he isn’t preaching the word of God.

      Ask him about the filthy lucre.

  • naijawatchman

    Where was the church when all the signs were pointing towards the destruction of U.S? The church must be held responsible for abdicating from spiritual warfare and standing in the gap for the nation. U.S. people are spiritually obessed that it has become very difficult to rise up to satan and his agents in both the church and black, no white house.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Yes, the Church must step up and establish the liberty in the land again and protect children from Sodom. Non-believers have no concept of righetousness, liberty or fairness.

  • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

    Question: has the homosexual lobby overplayed their hand yet? Not every movement for social change gets denounced in the senate.

  • OldArkie

    We need many more of our congressmen to take the stand with Congressman Lee Bright.

  • lonbo

    Not to be outdone by isis, dumb fuck christians are rising to the challenge. Delusionals kill when they can find the courage.