Bruce ‘Caitlyn’ Jenner’s Prayer With Texas Megachurch Minister Stirs Controversy

Jenner Young-compressedHOUSTON, Texas — Controversy is stirring over Bruce Jenner’s recent visit to a megachurch in Texas, where he prayed with a pastor who stood against an ordinance allowing men who identify as women to use womens’ restrooms and vice versa.

According to reports, the former Olympian visited Ed Young, Sr.’s Second Baptist Church of Houston last week with other transgender activists during a children’s holiday program. Young was among a number of local ministers who had been vocal about their opposition to Houston’s “bathroom bill,” which was also referred to by some as HERO or the Human Equal Rights Ordinance.

“Those of us who believe men should use men’s facilities and women should use women’s facilities, we will be discriminated against,” Young preached to his over 60,000-member congregation in September, calling the proposed measure “Godless.” “It is totally deceptive and deadly, and I trust that you will vote no, no, no.”

A transgender who goes by the name of Jennifer Boylan blogged this past week that Jenner took the opportunity during his visit to scold Young for his words.

“At the end of the evening, Pastor Young approached us. We all stood up. And Caitlyn Jenner looked him in the eye and told him how much his actions and his words had harmed our people,” Boylan wrote. “The pastor seemed to me to have never spoken face to face with transgender people before, and he clearly did not understand our lives, given some of the things he said to us.”

At the end of the discussion, Young asked those present if he could pray with them. They obliged.

“He asked us if we’d participate in a prayer,” Boylan, who professes to be Christian, outlined. “We bowed our heads.”

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Photographs show Young and Jenner praying together in a small group huddle.

“Dad always taught me to love and pray for everyone. Tonight he prayed with @caitlynjenner, who attended their service,” Young’s son, Ed Young, Jr., Tweeted on Friday.

Jenner also attended Grace Church, led by Garrett Booth, during his visit to Houston. Booth had likewise been opposed to the bathroom bill, which as previously reported, was overwhelmingly repealed by popular vote during the November election, being defeated 61 to 39 percent.

Following word of the visits, some praised Jenner for scolding Young.

“Proud of @Caitlyn_Jenner, saying to @EdYoung’s father’s face that the pastor’s #transphobic hate videos r highly offensive to all #trans ppl,” Tweeted activist Kate Bornstein, who was stated to have been present.

Some blasted him for not having any local representation from Houston, especially people of color. TransGriot Editor Monica Roberts complained in a blog post that Jenner was wrong to “compound the melanin-free photo screw-up by going to the Christmas pageant at Second Baptist (Hate) Church…”

Others viewed Jenner’s visit to the churches as a publicity stunt, but also an opportunity to remember to reach transgendered persons with the heart-transforming gospel of Jesus Christ.

“The photo ops conducted by Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner in at least two Houston megachurches who were very active in defeating Mayor Parker’s Bathroom Ordinance, were transparent and prove that the battle for decency, freedom and faith is far from over,” Dave Welch, executive director of the U.S. Pastor Council, told Breitbart.

“The tragic stories of Mr. Jenner and those like him who have become confused about how God designed them as male or female, call for our compassion to help heal them, and our determination to never let their plight be our new normal,” he said.


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  • Kathy Fugitt Price Skaggs

    Why do transgender people lie about anyone who disagrees with them. Disagreeing does not mean you hate anyone but since they hate anyone who disagrees with them they automatically assume everyone else is like them.

    • Steve Ssandowskii

      So true, that is always how it is, gay right groups,transgender groups, or even political groups say this is America, we have a right to state or act on our opinions, and have freedoms,but as soon as our opinions,or freedom of speech doesn’t agree with theirs, then WE become a hate group. I feel very sorry for them all,oh the pain that is contained in darkness. Have a glorious day!

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      They want to control how Christians believe and re-write our Bible

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      spot on

  • sahana64

    Ed Young’s Church that he is a pastor of is a Laodicean Church.

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      What is Ladodicean mean?

      • JohnDoe11

        Read in Revelation about the Seven Churches and look up the church in Laodicea in that passage.

  • Sam Noonkester

    Are we to only pray for/with people who share the same values, beliefs, ethic, morals? Or do we do as Jesus did and pray and love everyone? What kind of pastor would he be to turn him away? Who cares what Jenner says, he/she doesn’t get it anyway.

  • storie

    It’s good the Pastor prayed with him, whatever his motives for attending were.

  • Sage

    Satan is an angel of light.

    • Mark Johnston

      more like “The Evil Torch” the Lord God Allmighty is about to “Stomp On!” and throw in the Lake of Fire for Eternity>>>dont be a dumbass<<<<

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      Was is not Devil Satan – Father of Lies who will be thrown into the lake of fire and destroyed forever when Christ Returns. Satan does all harm and damage to people and the Earth

    • lizk

      Satan is the father of lies, a serpent of old. Our accuser a murder from the beginning. He would rather cloud the mind so you don’t have a relationship with Jesus so you have no life.

  • Rose Marie Pongratz

    Glad to see jenner referred to as bruce

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      Bruce he was born and Bruce he will remain.

  • http://www.RADale.com Russ Dale

    Her name is not Bruce.

    • Theresa Easley

      Right. His name is.

    • afchief

      His name IS Bruce!!! His DNA has NOT changed!!!

      • Violet Vanderhelm

        true

  • lorac odraned

    No such thing as a transgender. We are what God made us. If jenner sewed some pointed ears, a snub nose and fluffy tail on, would he be a rabbit? What he is is sick.

    • Reagan C

      So your saying God did NOT make anyone who is trans? Only “normal” people such as yourself, right? Do you have any clue that trans people have no choice! Should I have been aborted because when I was in my mother’s womb, (we all start out as female in the womb) when the male physical gene went over to make me physically a male, the gene to make my brain make did not. It’s it my fault I have female chromosomes, but a male body? How the hell could I do that? Hmm it must have been God! Such narrow minded people!

      • JohnDoe11

        You want to know who is really narrow-minded? Look in the mirror. No one brought up the issue God created transies, so read the article(s) through (even again) and think before you post. I along with some on here did. One thing I can say is pray for the transgendered people.

        • Reagan C

          Um, pray that you can learn how to put sentences together! Did God teach you to insult others? (Trannies)

        • Violet Vanderhelm

          correct

      • Surey Morales

        First of all, according to scientific studies chromosomes dictates your gender. Nothing else biological dictates whether you are a male or female. So if you have male chromosomes, you have a male body, hence you are male. But I would want to understand, what makes you a girl? What exactly? Things you like? Enjoy? Liking another male? I’m curious because as far as I understand you like what you like. It doesn’t mean you are another gender.

        • Reagan C

          Obviously you did not read all of what I wrote, huh! Also, you haven’t studied how babies are formed! I have to x’s, plus the “white matter” in my brain is that of a female. Verified through blood work, and a “working MRI!” Also, when your I’m the womb, there are two parts that cause you to be male. The part for physical, and the part for mental are two different parts, and move over to the baby at separate times. Sometimes the mental part does not move over like it should. So check your research! I’m done arguing everyone! Just pray your children don’t come to you with the same issue, and hopefully you don’t teach your hatred towards others to them! FACT: They believe that 62% of the transgender cause is hereditary! Again, who’s fault is it now? Bye!

          • lizk

            only God can change you if you let Him. He can make every thing right. for He made us.

        • Violet Vanderhelm

          Well stated Surey – I agree with you 100%.

      • http://www.RADale.com Russ Dale

        Yes they are.

      • lizk

        God did not make mistakes, He gave us free choice to do good and trust in God and in His strength. He never forces us but we do have to pay the consequences of our choices. We were not all female in the womb. God says our bodies are a temple of God. If we choose to smoke, drink alcohol, and do drugs which are proven to be harmful to our bodies including the babies. It is only by God’s power can we over come.

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      If he did that, he would think he is and if we did not think that we would be called racist and politically incorrect.

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      well stated.

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      great point

  • dongszkie

    Rapist who wanted to enter lady’s bathroom does not want to be identified as men as justification for their smooth entry.

    • Reagan C

      Show me one incident where a trans person dressed as a female to get into a ladies room, just to rape someone! YOU CAN’T!

      • Nidalap

        Assure us that such a thing won’t happen. YOU CAN’T! 🙂

        • Reagan C

          Show me one time that it has! Show me that you’ll never rape a woman yourself! You can’t! Show me one transgendered person who has actually raped someone, you can’t! Show me one cis-gendered male who has raped a woman. I can show you thousands! Who are your wives, sisters, daughters safer with, a cis male, or a trans female? I know you don’t have the stones to truly aver this question, because you know in right. A person undergoing transition to become a female can’t even get it up, and has no desire for sex, so again smart guy, who are they safer with, a random guy, or a real trans person? Come on, answer truthfully!

          • Nidalap

            Oh! But you don’t actually have to be undergoing any kind of physical transition to be a trans today! You only have to say you ‘feel’ that way and put on the appropriate attire! So without all the drugs and such, that type of trans is just as dangerous, right? 🙂

          • Reagan C

            Yes, (as a person with this disorder) I agree, and hate this, but if I didn’t start I would have killed myself! Now on the medication, I feel like living again. Do I think “Catlin” is the real deal? No, but I have to give her a little bit of leeway. Should she have been “Woman of the year?” HELL NO! Actually, a lot of people in the trans community don’t want her speaking for them. But people need to realize, I didn’t just wake up one day and say, “I think I’m going to become a female!” I was like this since I was 6y/o, but kept it silent for a very long time. Kept it suppressed by keep finding a girlfriend, living with them, one I married. But my dysphoria is what ruined all my relationships. When my last one and I split, my dysphoria just kinda took over, and was killing me, seriously! Every time I’d see a girl, 90% of my mind would try to put myself in her shoes, and be her! Day in & day out it wouldn’t stop! I found myself disfunctionable outside of work. I keep myself together at work, but after I’d be home unable to move from my couch. Finally I seeked help, and now on HRT. Could I in my current stage have sex, or even think about raping a woman? Not at all! If a Victoria Secrets Model (not the trans one. lol) threw me on a bed, ripped both of our clothes off, and wanted to have sex. She’s be out of luck with me! So trans people who are on HRT are NOT who you have to worry about. So, that only leaves cis males who are going to rape, but disguise themselves as woman. But remember, they could dress up as a cop, priest, or anything, they just happened to dress up as a woman. To date no trans person has ever raped a person! So don’t hate me, or the (real) trans community. We have too much hate already going on inside of our head. We mean no one any harm, where just trying to stay alive, and live or lives not being judged. We just want to blend in, and live!

          • http://www.bing.com/ Martin Smit

            A search for transgender, rape, news turns up these names: Dean Williams (“Nadine”), Julianna Tourmaline Fialkowski.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            No one is arguing that Trans people are incapable of rape. We’re arguing that no straight man, ever, has dressed as a woman to use transgender accommodation laws to dress as a woman, go into a public bathroom, and rape a woman.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            What is your opinion of a person who want to physically transform into an animal – let’s say a dog – I.E. tattoos or implants, hair implants all over body, walking on 4 legs to mimick features and sleeps with one, would you not have an opinion that he or she is mentally ill?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I don’t see the relevance.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            What is your opinion of a person who want to physically transform into an animal – let’s say a dog – I.E. tattoos or implants, hair implants all over body, walking on 4 legs to mimick features and sleeps with one, would you not have an opinion that he or she is mentally ill?

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            Perhaps you should do more research. Hope you check this out and do more research. A search for transgender, rape, news turns up these names: Dean Williams (“Nadine”), Julianna Tourmaline Fialkowski.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Anybody could do anything, potentially. Would you like to keep the entire country on lockdown?

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            Hope you check this out and do more research. A search for transgender, rape, news turns up these names: Dean Williams (“Nadine”), Julianna Tourmaline Fialkowski.

          • Nidalap

            ::Shrugs:: And anyone can potentially NOT do anything. Wouldst tear down all boundaries then? 🙂

      • Violet Vanderhelm

        It’s a ticking time bomb waiting to happen – some alleged transgender may try it soon enough. Perhaps our prayers for safety are preventing but perhaps not.

        • Reagan C

          Again, what are the stats of cis-gender rapists to trans-gendered rapists? If you told your boss that, but the statistically you were WAY WRONG, would you still have a job? Your wrong, but you don’t want to admit it! Have you ever done any research on this MEDICAL issue? How would you like people hating you for something you have no control over. Hope your perfect little life had no bumps in the road, and have others hate you for no reason!

        • Ambulance Chaser

          We don’t restrict rights in this country based on what somebody, somewhere, may potentially, hypothetically do at some point in the future.

          By that logic, YOU’RE a potential rapist, everywhere you go. Maybe we should put you on house arrest with an ankle monitor, just to be on the safe side.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            A search for transgender, rape, news turns up these names: Dean Williams (“Nadine”), Julianna Tourmaline Fialkowski.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            So are you.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Yes, and I would be absolutely livid if someone tried to restrict my rights because of that. You should be as well.

            In fact, you probably are. The difference is, you seem to think that the right not to be treated as a potential criminal for no reason only extends to you, whereas I believe it extends to everyone.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            DO more research. Hope you check this out and do more research. A search for transgender, rape, news turns up these names: Dean Williams (“Nadine”), Julianna Tourmaline Fialkowski.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I did “more research.” You know what I discovered? Those people’s alleged crimes are A) not yet proven and B) completely irrelevant to the topic at hand.

  • Josey

    Repentance is what is needed and that comes from a sorrowful heart over sin and if these transgenders who this pastor prayed for don’t have that they are lost and that is the only prayer God will hear from them is repentance and belief in Christ first. It is a matter of whether or not they believe Christ died on a cross and took their sins upon Himself and a matter of whether they choose to accept what Christ did, not in just words, it’s not enough, God looks upon the heart and they have to acknowledge the life they are living is sinful and wrong and repent and ask Jesus into their hearts to deliver them, then they have to receive that change and tell the world about it. They can talk all they want about Jesus loving them as they are but doesn’t mean a hill of beans w/out repentance, true repentance. Jesus does love them, He proved that by hanging on a rugged cross and bleeding for them and by taking their sin upon Himself as the sacrifice but now they have to repent to receive the things of God and that means a change of life, a born again heart.

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      They do not beliee in CHrist or his Church or his Word, if they did they would not mutiliate their bodies but preserve them in good health =- our bodies are the temple of the Lord.

      • Mark Johnston

        yeah right nobody tried to change thier sex in front of Jesus! He woulda flipped more than tables in the tabernacle

        • Mark Johnston

          there wouldas been a whole new book written!!>>>”DONT CUT UR JOHNSON OFF”<<<<<

        • Violet Vanderhelm

          spot on!

  • crusader51

    It is not about hate, it is about the safety of our wives and children. Once you open the door every pedophile in the world would have open season on our little girls when they went to the bathroom. Anyone transgender or not could put on a dress and access ladies facilities for devious reasons.

    Many place already have handicapped restrooms that are gender neutral so to force this policy is not only unnecessary but insanity.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      Why would a rapist be deterred by a “no trespassing” sign? Committing a violent felony is okay, but trespass? That’s unconscionable!

  • Reagan C

    Question folks, did you ever think that all your* (* meant as everyone who oppose trans people, not just you.) Hatred and opposition towards people who have this medical issue, is what has made the trans community needing to fight back? Yes, everyone is “supposed to” have “equal” rights, but isn’t that why trans people are fighting? They too want to have the same rights that any human being should be untitled too! Why should tans people not have the right to what even people in jail have, actually people in jail have more rights. They get “4 hots and a cot!” Plus, the courts ruled is unconstitutional to stop people from changing, so why can’t people mind their own business? Do you want the Gov’t snooping into your business? Is it my place, what’s in your pants, or who or what you do in closed doors? If people just left the trans people alone, people wouldn’t be making as big of a deal about it like they are now. Do you think WE just wake up one day, and decide that we want to change into the opposite sex? Do you think we want the name calling, getting attacked, losing family & friends just for the fun of it? Do you think we enjoy having people stare at us, unless we are passing. Can I ask you, do you discriminate against people with cancer, or any type of chromosomes and/or gene deformations? So if I, or anyone else was predestined to be like this, and to have been born knowing that they were going to have a disorder like this, would you recommend aborting that baby? If they are presenting in the womb as male, but have female chromosomes, or the white matter in their brain is that of a female, should we terminate that pregnancy? I’m serious, should we? Who the F are we to judge others? You can sit there and tell me your perfect? I suffer from incorrect chromosomes, mine are female, but my body is male. After suffering for years, and almost taking my life due to the pain in my head from being in the “wrong body” I started transitioning. What would you do of you were in my position? Due to the medication for transitioning, I can actually function again. This is not a sexual thing, trust me, this medication makes me have no interest in sex what so ever! I actually work in public service. What that means is if you were to call (I’m going to describe my positing very vage!) 911, I’d either answer the call, dispatch the correct units, or be one of those units going to help you. I could be the police person saving you, the fire fighter that saves your house, or helps you when you’ve been in a accident. Or the paramedic that saves you, your child’s, family’s or friends life when an emergency occurs. Would you not want me to touch them due to my internal conflict, and just let them die? I’m very good at what I do, and one day could be there to help save you! Good luck everyone with your hatred towards others, that has nothing to do with you, and something we have no control over. Trust me, I didn’t chose this way of life. You better hope your genes stay working correctly!

    • Nidalap

      Well, you are correct. You do have issues. Hopefully you’ll find the correct answer to your problems someday. It’s encouraging that you instinctively choose to come here! 🙂

      • Reagan C

        And you don’t, huh? Your perfect? Apparently your chromosomes are messed up, your bald. Should I judge you because of that?

        • Nidalap

          ::Shrugs:: If that is your wish, you certainly may! The genetic anomaly you describe sounds rare. What is it? One in a million? Ten million? You speak as if all trans are victims of it. If that were the case, we’d have already been hearing about it all along.
          Are you saying that any trans not suffering from such an affliction is just suffering from a mental disorder? If not, then your disability is no true excuse, just a handy crutch you use to further a cause…

          • Reagan C

            GID = Gender Identity Disorder otherwise known as Gender Dysphoria! Read the following:

            Biological causes Edit
            Genetic variation, hormones, and differences in brain functioning and brain structures provide evidence for the biological etiology of the symptoms associated with GID. Twin studies indicate that GID is 62% heritable, evidencing the genetic influence or prenatal development as its origin.[21] In male-to-female transsexuals, GID is associated with variations in an individual’s genes that make the individual less sensitive to androgens.[1] Zhou et al. (1995), in a study of six individuals, found that in one area of the brain, male-to-female transsexuals have a typically female structure, and female-to-male transsexuals have a typically male structure.[22] In addition, some aspects of trans women’s hypothalamus functioning resemble that typical of cisgender women.[23]

            The presence of typically female patterns of white matter and neuron patterns has also been observed in the brains of male-to-female transsexuals[24][25] and overall longer instances of the androgen receptor gene.[26] (Also see Causes of transsexualism.) However, these markers do not identify every individual who undergoes transition.[27]

          • Nidalap

            Yup. Sounds something awful! 🙂

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            We as a nation are over medicated. If a woman’s hormones deplete through natural course of menopause and hormone replacement will ease symptoms of menopause, then Doctors were easily prescribing them UNTIL studies showed, estrogen replacement had a high risk to cause some type of cancer and uniformly all decent OB-GYN have discontinued hormone therapy as a solution. So with gender re-assignment which includes hormone increase of either female or male should be prohibited or else that doctor that prescribes is doing the person a egregious error and is remiss of the doctor. But doctors are getting away with it. Also, studies show that after individuals do gender re-assignment the statistics show a higher rate of suicide, so the gender re-assignment did not cure their emotional/depression maladies.

        • Violet Vanderhelm

          Going bald is a normal natural course for men. You cannot judge someone on something that is a natural course, I.E. eventually everyone dies. You cannot claim a person is abnormal because they eventually have to die. That is someone we all have to do – eventually die of some disease or weakness of our bodies.

    • Violet Vanderhelm

      People do not cause their cancer. The transgender are mutilating their bodies. They deny they have mental illness. Denials breed more illness. They should get counseling. Gay activists do not believe in mutilation of transgenders or changes in sex identity.

      • Reagan C

        Um Ms. Violet, counciling check, 3 different Doctors to prove the pain I was in, CHECK! Gender Dysphoria is not (per hundreds of thousands of Doctors) a mental illness! Over 50% of the cause is found to be herititary! (Pardon my spelling) So why do you condemn others? Hopefully one day, someone close. …. I take that back, because I wouldn’t wish this on my worse enemy!

        • Violet Vanderhelm

          Tampering with hormone adjustments may have adverse side effects. Women going through menopause can no longer get hormone replacements as there is a high chance of cancer, hence they stopped this therapy.

      • Reagan C

        Oh, when I was 6yrs old, I had no clue stay all this was about, all I knew was I was in the wrong body! And now that I’ve proved it’s medical with me, would you condemn me for getting cancer? It’s still something wrong with your genes that caused it, so is my Dysphoria!

    • John_33

      Hi Reagan,

      I can say from the bottom of my heart that I have no hatred against you, and I have no doubt that you have gone through many troubling, horrific experiences that I can’t even imagine; I don’t diminish that in any way. I sympathize with transgendered individuals who are going through many problems, but I don’t believe that supporting transgenderism is the solution. There is a better way through Jesus Christ that promises healing and forgiveness to all. He already has and continues to save transgendered individuals. As you pointed out, none of us are perfect. We are all broken and in need of help, and Jesus offers this help to each and every one of us. From my own experience, I can say that I know He hears and He is very gracious. There’s no need to turn to anyone but Him.

      • Reagan C

        I mean no offense to the following, just this is the only way I know how to express myself.

        I am a Roman Catholic from Boston. My family has many (non pedifile) religious figures in our family. I was an alter boy, and can resite the whole mass pretty much word for word. That being said, a year ago, when I was in my darkest hours, and was praying for many different things from taking me right then, to begging for my brain to go silent, but nothing got better, only worse. He was not helping!

        Can I ask you, if you get sick, do you only pray to get healthy again, or do you take medication? If your genes created a cancerous mass in your body, would you pray for it to go away, or would you go to a specialist in cancer, and get treated? Again, no disrespect, but honestly, because it does not fit in the “normal catagory” to you, is that when it’s a sin? Why is what I have a sin? My chromosomes are that of a female, along with the white matter in my brain! All I can prove, by a Dr. Because in my mother’s womb, my body some where got the wrong signal and developed into a male, why must The Lord Jesus Christ be the only medication I need? Who actually heard him say that anyone in the LBGTQA Community is committing a sin? Please introduce me too this person, so I too may hear what (s)he heard with there own ears, the word of The Lord. If they didn’t hear it directly from The Lord, how do we know what’s said in any book is real? Remember when you were in elementary school, we use to play the telephone game. One person world whisper to another one a sentence, then that person would whisper to another and so on. When it got to the last person, was the sentence ever the same as when the first person told it? Why could God not have created numerous different types of people, wait he did. Black, white, Hispanic, Polish, Eskimos, etc. …. so why not gay, transgenders A-sexuals and so on. Or did God make a mistake? Seriously, why is the gender in my head, or the love that I have for another person a sin? Why is it anyone else’s concern? Did you like it when people were listing in on our phone calls? Would you like me butting my nose into your life? So why does everyone concern themselves in trans people’s lives? Just curious!

        • John_33

          Don’t worry, no offense is taken at all! I only responded to you since you came to this Christian site asking questions. I don’t mean to pry into your life in any way.

          Indeed I do take medication when I am sick, and I’m not denying medicine in any way, but I want to understand where you are coming from. Are you saying that transgenderism is a disease that needs treatment? How do we determine a proper diagnosis of one that is sick?

          When I say that Jesus is the answer, I don’t mean rejecting medicine; I mean that He is the One who heals, protects, and guides us through all of our issues, big or small. Believe me when I say that He knows all about the struggles you are going through and that He cares. He absolutely cares about your life just as much as He cares about others. I’m not comparing it to transgenderism, but I was sick for over two years with a chronic condition, and He came through for me helping me every step of the way. I took medicine, but He was the One who really turned it around. He really is a friend that you can depend on. That’s what I mean when I say that there is nobody else to go to.

          Did God make a mistake with transgendered, gays, or asexuals? No. They became this way at some point in their lives through different ways. People became hurt or picked up suffering along the way. God didn’t come to help perfect people. He came to heal the broken hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and to set at liberty them that are bruised, and He still does this for us today. It’s not about who you love or not or what you feel or not, it’s about doing what’s right. God did forbid homosexual acts, among other things, but He didn’t do it to be mean or to restrict us from living our lives. He did it because He knows the pain and heartache that is involved in these things, and He wants to protect us from it. He still offers His healing and forgiveness to all who call on Him. Don’t give up on Him. Keep pressing forward and turn to Him with your whole heart. He offers the healing and forgiveness that is needed.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            Meds – we as a nation are over medicated. If a woman’s hormones deplete through natural course of menopause and hormone replacement will ease symptoms of menopause, then Doctors were easily prescribing them UNTIL studies showed, estrogen replacement had a high risk to cause some type of cancer and uniformly all decent OB-GYN have discontinued hormone therapy as a solution. So with gender re-assignment which includes hormone increase of either female or male should be prohibited or else that doctor that prescribes is doing the person a egregious error and is remiss of the doctor. But doctors are getting away with it. Also, studies show that after individuals do gender re-assignment the statistics show a higher rate of suicide, so the gender re-assignment did not cure their emotional/depression maladies.

          • MamaBear

            Certain cancer treatments actually require either surgical or drug induced reduction of natural sexual hormones to as close to zero levels as possible, well below menopause. Anyone who has been through these treatments will tell you of the long term health problems tampering with hormones brings, even if necessary to fight cancer. Our bones and brains and many non-sexual body parts contain receptors for estrogen (female) and testosterone (male) in them. DNA does not change. Neither do hormone receptors.
            Transgender hormone treatments are playing with fire.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            Absolutely – I agree. Too bad Reagan C cannot comprehend this.

        • Violet Vanderhelm

          The word of God Bible Old & New Testament states men or women who even dress unnaturally like as in the opposite sex are committing sin. God did not approve of men or women mutilating their bodies for any reason, including changing one’s sex. God made each of us men and women – he did not make mistakes. Perhaps all women feel it is a man’s world and we would be better off as men for practicality reasons – to gain more promotions, garner higher salaries, etc but God could not create us all men or else the human race would have been halted. We do the best with the talents and resources God has given us: health, beauty, talents, intelligence, education, wealthy, etc. We all have something to be proud of. Some will have more than others but we accentuate the talents we have and strive to improve ourselves and to keep spiritual and our mind on the Lord and our crown of salvation in the afterlife.

        • lizk

          The bible is no mistake, but modern times people are trying to change the word of God, by making it gender neutral and so on by they will be punished much more. The devil has his own preachers and as we get closer to the end times the world will grow more wicked just like in the days of Lot and Noah. Noah preached 120 yrs and people laughed at him and didn’t believe and once Noah and his family entered the ark it was God who closed the door (of probation) just like before Jesus comes back He will have judged the living and the dead and all will be sealed wither good or evil. When He comes back His reward is with Him wither he has everlasting life or everlasting separation. God calls all His people to repent of their sins and by His power we can overcome. He is holy so should we.

    • afchief

      November 7, 2015
      There Is No Such Thing as ‘Transgendered’
      By Tom Trinko

      Conservatives win when people have the truth, because modern liberal causes are always built on lies.

      When conservatives buy into the lie, we lose. For example, gay marriage is culturally accepted, in part, because for 30 years conservatives have been unwilling, out of misplaced sympathy, to correctly describe the gay lifestyle.

      Sexually active gays are essentially never monogamous, die young due to diseases they get from their promiscuous lifestyle, are depressed and despondent, are likely to use drugs, and are fixated on sex, not love. Being a sexually active gay is worse for one’s health than being a smoker.

      Yet conservatives generally haven’t objected to the lie that gays are just like heterosexuals. But once one agrees to that, it’s really hard to explain to low-information voters why gays don’t make great parents and shouldn’t be allowed to marry. On the other hand, conservatives have been constantly pointing out the lies of the climate alarmists, and as a result, the average American couldn’t care less about climate change. Given the truth, the vast majority of people will pick the conservative position most of the time.

      The latest round in liberals’ assault on Judeo-Christian morality is their demented desire to normalize insanity – namely that one’s sex is merely a matter of what one wants it to be. As usual, their position is based on the totally false claim that a person’s sex is not biological, but psychological.

      Christians, whom liberals constantly label as “anti-science,” have no problem realizing that DNA defines our biological identity but not who we are. Yet modern liberals reject settled science and claim that someone with a woman’s DNA can really be biologically male.

      The reality is that the only time a man is trapped in a woman’s body is before he’s born. Similarly, a man can no more will himself to be a woman than he can will himself to be Napoleon – a side-effect of this thing called reality.

      Now, men and women can suffer from gender identity confusion, but while we should strive to help those who think they’re something they’re not, the right way to do so is not to enable their delusions. If an Elvis impersonator suddenly declared that he was Elvis, no sane person would think that the loving response would be to start calling him The King.

      Showing true love to people who identify as transgendered is helping them love who they really are, not telling them that they have to change because they’re not good as they are.

      Sadly, there are signs that some conservatives are buying into the liberals’ false narrative. You might have seen conservative sites that said that the Houston “anti-discrimination” law didn’t pass. This is a bit of terminology that buys into the transgender lie. Letting biological men who simply say they think they’re women into women’s restrooms is not anti-discrimination; it’s pro-discrimination against women. Does the phrase “sexual harassment” ring a bell?

      Similarly, conservatives use the term LGBT as though it were a valid description of biological diversity rather than a purely psychological construct, developed by psychiatrists who tend to self-identify as members of the LGBT “community.”

      Like all other groups, the “transgendered” are viewed by liberals in terms of how they can be used to further the expansion of liberal power and control. If liberals really cared about the “transgendered,” they’d be helping those suffering from gender identity confusion accept who they truly are. Instead, liberals support the “transgender” cause because it’s a direct repudiation of the Judeo-Christian view that men are not gods and that men and women have a biological identity they can’t change. Additionally, by supporting the “transgender” cause, liberals attack the Judeo-Christian view that sex is about more than recreation and is intended to be between a man and a woman.

      Some conservatives feel bad about condemning the “transgender” lifestyle because they think that’s not compassionate. That’s a result of another liberal lie: the lie that saying that a person’s lifestyle isn’t good for him is an attack on the person. Liberals clearly don’t believe that, since they have no problem attacking smokers’ and overweight people’s lifestyles. However, it’s a convenient bit of intellectual octopus ink to muddy the waters and deflect the train of thought of people who aren’t very analytical.

      The reality is that it’s not cruel or unloving to point out the reality of the “transgendered” any more than it’s uncaring to describe the disaster that is the gay lifestyle. What kind person would purposely lie to a smoker about the health consequences of smoking? Yet if we lie about what being “transgendered” or gay really means, we’re lying to people confused about their sexuality about the consequences of their choices.

      Even worse, by buying into the “transgender” lie, we’re directly supporting discrimination against sane people. When a man wants to be in a women’s locker room because he claims he thinks he’s a woman, one of two things is true:

      • He’s lying, because he’s a pervert who’s pretending. This may be more common among teens than one might think, since saying one identifies as a woman does not require one to dress or act like a woman, much less mutilate oneself.

      • He actually thinks he’s something he’s not, which means he’s not really mentally stable.

      In the former case, supporting the “transgender” cause is synonymous with supporting sexual harassment. It’s amazing that the same women who decry “micro-aggressions” by men and who say that a woman can decide days after having sex with a man that she was raped believe that making a teenage girl shower with a boy is just fine.

      In the latter case, allowing a testosterone-powered boy to compete with women in sports is unfair to women. Additionally, many young girls will be emotionally disturbed by the fact that even though this guy claims to be a gal, it’s visually obvious that he isn’t when he looks at them in the shower.

      While liberals claim to worship at the altar of the nonexistent “privacy” clause found in the penumbra of the emanations of the Constitution, in this context, they appear to believe that young women have no right to privacy at all – unless, of course, they want to kill their unborn daughters.

      Once one strips away the liberal lies, the reality is that to properly live the love and compassion that comes so naturally to most Americans, one should not follow unscientific and disproven liberal dogma that one can changes one’s sex merely by willing it. Rather, one should help people suffering from delusions about what they are to become comfortable with reality.

      Once we get voters in general to realize that just as the most loving thing to do for a smoker is tell him that smoking is bad, the most loving thing to do for the “transgendered” is to point out that they can never become the other sex and that they are wonderful just the way they are. Then we’ll be able to block liberals’ attempts to force acceptance of the “transgendered” on Americans.

      • Reagan C

        Seriously, you need to get a life! Can’t we just leave people “who don’t fit into our social norms” alone? Who are you to pass judgement on others? I didn’t chose this life, it chose me, and that’s medically backed by multiple doctors. How does my changing genders effect you? Would you want people sticking their nose into your life, and pass judgement on you just because your different than they are? Why force your religious beliefs on others, I’m sure you wouldn’t want others to do that to you. Also does God want us to pass judgement, or live one another? CAN’T WE ALL JUST LIVE OUR LIVES IN PEACE? WTF is wrong with just living or lives? Such a Jackass!

        • afchief

          I’m not passing judgement on you or forcing my beliefs on you. God made you who you are! Your DNA never changes. You will always be a man in God’s eyes and Christians eyes.

          If God made you a man and you think you are a woman, I do not want you using the same bathroom my daughter is using. Is that too hard to understand?

          If you want to think/pretend you are a women. Fine! But, again I do not want you in the same locker room or bathroom where my daughter is possibly exposed.

          It is that simple.

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            Atchief – well said and defended. I agree with you 100%.

          • afchief

            Thanks! I know the homosexuals around here are blinded by their sin. And I know we are not fighting against flesh and blood. Eph 6:12

          • Violet Vanderhelm

            Well stated. Even homosexuals do not want transgenders to be grouped with them as they feel transgenders are mentally ill but homosexuals do not feel they are mentally ill. Homosexuals do not believe in genital mutilation. Some liberals like Gloria Steinem stated that on an talk show – I heard her.

        • lizk

          mankind are in error only God’s word is true. Jesus said I am the way the truth the life. His word is true He cannot lie. He dies not test you. When you turn your back on God then you given your self to the devil. Repent of your sins and God will for give the all sins.

      • Violet Vanderhelm

        I agree with article above. We as a nation are over medicated. If a woman’s hormones deplete through natural course of menopause and hormone replacement will ease symptoms of menopause, then Doctors were easily prescribing them UNTIL studies showed, estrogen replacement had a high risk to cause some type of cancer and uniformly all decent OB-GYN have discontinued hormone therapy as a solution. So with gender re-assignment which includes hormone increase of either female or male should be prohibited or else that doctor that prescribes is doing the person a egregious error and is remiss of the doctor. But doctors are getting away with it. Also, studies show that after individuals do gender re-assignment the statistics show a higher rate of suicide, so the gender re-assignment did not cure their emotional/depression maladies.

      • Violet Vanderhelm

        Liberals clearly don’t believe that, since they have no problem attacking smokers’ and overweight people’s lifestyles. Atchief – well stated.

    • lizk

      no matter people need to ask God for His help as only He can give you the Holy Spirit so that you walk in all His ways that is if people believe He can and it is still a choice.

  • 201821208 :)

    “Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in Heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.” Matt. 7:21-23
    “For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires, and will turn away their ears from the truth and will turn aside to myths.” 2 Timothy 4:3-4

  • Violet Vanderhelm

    True story: A woman since a child wanted to know what it felt like to be blind, then wanted to act on it as she stated she felt she should have been born blind. She paid some doctor to put drops in her eyes to permanently blind her. She felt satisfied – walking around with stick. Her family disowned her. She now advocated that people like her should get mental health advice to prevent this from happening. Also, for people who transgender completely inclusive of surgeries – the statistics show a high suicide rate. Reason they became even more depressed. The transgender surgery did not help their initial depression or mental illness.

  • Shaun D.

    First off, if we are of SOUND MIND, we must admit, that this thing known as “transgendered”, does NOT exist.

    Yes, queers do have surgeries to destroy their own genitalia and add other parts which resemble a female organ (breasts, etc etc), but in keeping wih sound mind, they are what they were born. MALES ARE MALE, FEMALE’S are FEMALE.

    Surgery is incapable of redefining “male” & “female”, except possibly with the exception of hermaphrodites. MR.BRUCE JENNER is a lost sinner under the wrath of our creator God in Heaven.

    All homosexuality/lesbianism/bisexuality etc etc, are “an abomination” unto God.

    Leviticus 18:22
    Leviticus 20:13
    Genesis 2
    Genesis 19
    Romans 1:24-32

    All gays are so deep into their own lies and deception that they will ignore or totally dismiss each and everyone of those biblical evidence of God’s wrath against homosexuality.

  • Mark Johnston

    knife and a drill can never, could never make mr. badass BRUCE the OLYMPIAN, a GIRL

  • peanut butter

    Bruce just wanted to make an issue about this. Too bad he chose the Christmas Program to do it. Didn’t hear anything about what the prayer was. Hope Ed Young prayed that Bruce would find himself in the body that God gave him.

  • BeBeX

    It matters not what people “think”. It matters ONLY what GOD knows. When GOD created male and female HE did so in HIS Divine Plan and no surgery, hormones or pills can change the DNA. We cannot change our DNA. To call Christians, Churches, and The Gospel hate speech is misguided. The Gospel is GOD’s Love Letters to HIS Creation showing them how to live an abundant life, forgiveness of sins, and witnessing to the lost souls. No one has ever loved us as GOD loves us. In HIS Divine Plan, Truth and Love HE shows us the Way.

    GOD’s archrival is and has always been satan. Satan is a liar, deceiver, destroyer, full of hate, trying to win as many as he can for the great battle which he will loose. GOD has pre-warned us what will happen to those that choose to follow satan and his kingdom. Do not allow satan to sift your like wheat, for his days are numbered, as ours. Please choose GOD, Who loves you, not satan, who hates you and wants to see you destroyed.