Prosperity Preachers Copeland, Duplantis Defend Use of Private Jets to Avoid Flying With ‘Bunch of Demons’

Copeland Duplantis-compressedProsperity preachers Kenneth Copeland and Jesse Duplantis defended their ownership of private jets this past week, stating that they couldn’t accommodate their schedule any other way and that they wouldn’t want to ride commercial with a “bunch of demons.”

The discussion aired on Wednesday’s broadcast of Copeland’s “Believer’s Voice of Victory” as Duplantis shared a story of how God told him on a flight home that his faith was “stagnating.”

“As I was going home, the Lord–real quickly–He said, ‘Jesse, do you like your plane?’” Duplantis explained. “I thought, ‘That’s an odd statement.’ I said, ‘Well, certainly, Lord. He said, ‘Do you really like it?’ And I thought, ‘Well, yes, Lord.’ And He said, ‘So that’s it? … You gonna let your faith stagnate?’”

Duplantis said that he then unbuckled his seatbelt, stood up and said, “Lord, I don’t think I’m letting my faith stagnate,” but God responded, “So, this is all I could ever do?”

Copeland then chimed in and explained that it would be difficult to talk to God on a commercial airplane, as other passengers would say, “What the [expletive] is he doing?”

“When I was flying for Oral Roberts, … my boss on the airplane, he said, ‘Now Kenneth, this is a sanctuary. It protects the anointing on brother Roberts. And he said, ‘You keep your mouth shut. You don’t talk to him unless he talks.'”

“Now Oral used to fly airlines,” Copeland continued. “But even back then it got to the place where it was agitating his spirit—people coming up to him, he had become famous, and they wanted him to pray for them and all that. You can’t manage that today [in] this dope-filled world, and get in a long tube with a bunch of demons. And it’s deadly.”

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While he said that he didn’t want to fly with a “bunch of demons,” moments later, Copeland contended that he needed a private jet to help reach the lost.

“We’re in soul business here. We’ve got a dying world around us. We’ve got a dying nation around us,” Copeland proclaimed. “We can’t even get there on the airlines.”

Duplantis then explained that he had recently traveled to a number of cities for events across the nation, and that in showing his schedule to a Delta pilot, he was told that the pilot couldn’t fly his route commercial.

“When God tells you your faith’s stagnating, you better start listening,” he said. “[God] said this: ‘You’re in cruise control. You’re moving, but no longer by your power.'”

As previously reported, prosperity preacher Creflo Dollar, a friend to Copeland and Duplantis, generated controversy last year in his effort to raise $65 million dollars to purchase a private jet.

“If I want to believe God for a $65 million plane, you cannot stop me. You cannot stop me from dreaming,” he said during a message in which he addressed those who took issue with his endeavor.

Dollar had asked for 200,000 people to donate $300 dollars each so that he could purchase a new G650 airplane. The Gulfstream G650 is a top-end business jet that can carry up to 18 passengers and is stated to fly faster than other large cabin aircraft.

“The plane is not so Creflo Dollar can get on by himself and fly,” public relations representative Juda Englemayer told the Christian Post. “They take a ministry team of 10 to 15 people with them. They take thousands of pounds of food and provisions with them when they go around the world. If he’s coming to the New York church, he’ll hop on a Delta flight. If he’s taking 12 people plus 100,000 pounds of food, it’s not that simple.”

But as word broke about the project, some still expressed dismay as to why Dollar, who leads a 30,000-member megachurch and lives in a million dollar home, needs such an expensive aircraft, which is reportedly sought out by billionaires. David Graham, Global Express aircraft captain with Advanced Air Management, told the publication that Engelmayer’s claims don’t add up.

“[The aircraft] cannot carry 12 people and 100,000# of food and supplies,” he said. “Creflo is a crook and scammin’ his church in the name of the Lord.”


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  • The Skeptical Chymist

    Parasites on the back of their flocks!

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Amen! Even worse, the souls of their flocks are in mortal danger, and should flee these false teachers before it is too late.

  • http://www.smbelow.com Steven

    Couple things I found interesting.
    1. Stood up to talk to God who apparently was speaking to him.
    Stood up?! I would think that if God were speaking to you, you would be prostate on the ground in humility; not standing up.

    2. Agitated by people asking for prayers or help, but they’re in the soul winning business.
    A little contradictory to me.

    3. Schedule couldn’t be flown by a Delta pilot.
    Last I looked Delta had more than one plane and many more pilots.

    4. scratching an itch to fly.
    It’s not about flying; it’s about the pride of life.

  • gizmo23

    These guys make Christians look bad.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Nope, they make themselves look bad, and the show the Bible to be true:

      1. Man is depraved and desires to follow himself and pursue wealth instead of God.
      2. Many false teachers will appear – wolves among the sheep.

    • VHamer

      Not really. If the comments on this feed are made by Christians then that is what looks bad. But if these festering comments are made by the unsaved then it makes perfect sense because they don’t understand the mysteries of the kingdom of God.

  • PietjePuk

    disgusting…

  • tim

    One would think that with so many demons stuck in a giant flying tube that would be the perfect opportunity to speak about Gods word, not run away from it and buy a private plane.

    • Godfrey

      lol

  • marg

    Oh yes, Kenneth Copeland, they guy who had a catholic priest in his pulpit proclaiming that protestants should come back to the “true church” and stop “protesting”. These are the kind of idiots who give ministers a bad name. They also steal from other churches, by constantly asking for money and not encouraging those who (blindly) listen to give to their home/local churches. If they truly believe that God will give them all this money for airplanes then why do they need to ask for money from little old ladies on social security constantly? These guys are the kind of thieves Jesus threw out of the temple……

  • Robert L.

    Listen to these guys trying to convince themselves why they needs their private jets. Just a big MONEY racket for them, has nothing to do with lost souls. Ken Copeland looks demonic as he tries to make a convincing argument. Interesting how God is telling Mr Duplantis not to limit his faith to just a 50 million dollar jet….but to stretch it for bigger material things. For me, stretching my faith would be walking into a North Korean prison camp and be willing to share my faith with the prison warden on penalty of death. These guys are too much.

    • Shawn Mullin

      I agree with you Robert. These are the ones Jesus warned us about.

    • sandra-paquette-

      Nothing more than GREAD. Satan loves these guys

  • Maranatha2011

    It should be the passengers complaining about ‘flying with a bunch of demons”!
    It’s all about them. So much for Christ’s command to win the lost. In this case, it would be the blind leading the blind.

    • Phillip Stemson

      I’d rather be flying with normal people than these snake eyed phonies. I mean, these guys are living in another world.

  • http://biblicalsalvation.info/ railhead

    And I’d rather fly commercial than be on a private jet with these two. I might escape the commercial flight with my wallet and sanity intact.

    If you’re REALLY in the “soul business”, Mr. Copeland, then why wouldn’t you want to be where there are a bunch of unsaved people? I mean you can share the gospel with people on the plane. You have a high chance of sitting next to someone who isn’t saved, and a perfect opportunity to share the gospel.

    This just shows how upside down the world is for these phonies.

    • Shawn Mullin

      Exactly

    • peanut butter

      Maybe he’s afraid the demons would rub off on him and take over his soul. If that happened, it was prove that his faith was not true, and he couldn’t get any more planes from the blind sheep that are in his flock.

      • sandra-paquette-

        He is a demon, it’s already got him.

    • sandra-paquette-

      This is how they justify of their doings. And a lot of people don’t stop and think of their corruption. EVIL

  • Theresa Corbin

    This makes me sad and angry at the same time. We all so desperately need Jesus. To think about someone out there seeking Jesus, believing that these selfish individuals are representatives of His word, just breaks my heart. I pray that they will hear Him and change their ways. In the meantime, I pray that those seeking Jesus won’t be turned away by them.

    • peanut butter

      The only thing would be that they would follow these preachers, who only use the Bible to seek prosperity.

      2 Timothy 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

  • Lavie

    They believe their own strong delusions

  • Fran

    Disgusting, greedy crooks !!!

  • Billyboy

    Jesus sort of outlined how we should be as His disciples, He doesn’t mention wardrobes worth thousands, shoes worth hundreds, expensive modes of transportation, or first class hotel accommodation, so either Jesus was wrong in the spirit of His instruction – or these prosperity preachers are wrong…..Luke 9:1 – Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. 2And he sent them to preach the kingdom of God, and to heal the sick. 3And he said unto them, Take nothing for your journey, neither staves, nor scrip, neither bread, neither money; neither have two coats apiece. 4And whatsoever house ye enter into, there abide, and thence depart. 5And whosoever will not receive you, when ye go out of that city, shake off the very dust from your feet for a testimony against them. 6And they departed, and went through the towns, preaching the gospel, and healing every where. (But you can decide for yourself.)

  • Reason2012

    “And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.”
    1 Timothy 6:8-11

  • Robert Smith

    “what the hell he thinks he’s doing” fine speech and language control

  • Cobra

    these so called preachers are a total disgrace to Christ’s ministry …what is happening to these men…they are part of Satan great deception

    • VHamer

      Nope. They are not a disgrace to me. I love the ministry of Jesse Duplantis and Kenneth Copeland. I have called the prayer line for Rev. Copeland during some serious moments in my life and God answered. I thank God for these two men. They are wonderful men of God with an awesome and exciting word of hope, faith and the love of Christ.

      • acontraryview

        “If he’s taking 12 people plus 100,000 pounds of food, it’s not that simple.”

        From the Gulfstream website: Payload with Maximum Fuel **1,800 lbs

        You’re OK with lying?

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          Thank you, ACV – good show!

  • VHamer

    God bless your ministers of the gospel to continue to take your word around the word. Amen.

    • clicciardi

      I have listened to these guys many times. I have yet to hear the gospel from them. They never rebuke sin. They never preach about the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ. There’s no gospel message there!!

  • VHamer

    One question though, is this a Christian magazine article, talking about the men of God with comments like these. The bible says that the world will know us by our fruits, when we have love for one another. None of these comments show that. If we are to judge the men of God shame on you but when you see fault we are commanded by the word to pray for our brothers. This is a festering feed full of ungodly comments about the preachers who are doing the work of the kingdom. Although many may disagree about how its done, it really is their business.

    • disqus_SVPp3a4grk

      So, we are not supposed to call out false doctrine, false prophets, and those deceiving the masses for their own personal monetary gain? There is a problem here and it lies in the fact that these men are not our leaders. You’re blind and cannot see how the church is being infiltrated from within. Christians are not supposed to sit idle and do nothing (James 4:7; Luke 9:23). Trust in the Lord for all things and pray for everyone, yes, but ALSO call out those who use Jesus to deceive the masses. There is a strong difference between accountability and judging. To not hold a “leader” of a church accountable, would be selfish, indifferent and fatal. We are supposed to choose God over man, correct? With what you are saying, when the Antichrist shows up, we’re all supposed to just sit and take it. Based on your comment above and others below, you fit the bill for the mass deception, now on-going, known as the “emerging church”. I suggest you google what’s wrong with the emerging church and start taking some notes.

  • afchief

    The sad thing is, Christians give these people money. Why?

    • gizmo23

      Because if someone is wealthy they must be very wise and have God’s special blessing. Poor people are not worthy according to many people

      • afchief

        Not true! These people are wealthy because of the lack of wisdom and discernment in the Body of Christ today. They preach that if you “sow into their ministries, you will reap blessings”. They are milking the sheep with “half truths”

        Some of the people with the most wisdom I have met are poor financially, but wealthy spiritually.

        • gizmo23

          I’m talking preception

    • Phillip Stemson

      Because they are simpletons. These vile people like the Copelands, Duplantis, etc. prey upon them.

  • acontraryview

    “they wanted him to pray for them and all that.”

    Yes, the last thing a good preacher wants is people asking him to pray for them.

    “If he’s taking 12 people plus 100,000 pounds of food, it’s not that simple.”

    From the Gulfstream website: Payload with Maximum Fuel **1,800 lbs

    Seems a little shy of 100,000 lbs.

  • Shawn Mullin

    Sounds like the pharisees who went to great lengths to avoid even their robes touching the common people. They sure aren’t serving the same Jesus I am.

  • 201821208 :)

    “Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in Heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.” Matt. 7:21-23

  • Josey

    Matthew 10:7,8 vs7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. 8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

  • mrn916

    I will use that cliche ” What would Jesus Do?” Jesus never avoided the people, he was surrounded by people all the time. They were broken, sick, demon possessed, and lost sheep. He loved them and healed many and He would go right in the middle of those people without worry or fear! These two gentlemen concern me on what they say to the people. Matthew 12:36,37 says, “I tell you that on the day of judgment people will have to account for every careless word they speak. For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.” That is frightening stuff for me when I read that passage… If you read the scriptures before and after in that chapter you will find that we are all KNOWN by the fruit we bear. I am really concerned by what kind of fruit these 2 gentlemen are bearing. We need to pray for these men and have discernment when even attempting to listen to them. We should test everything against the scripture and ask ourselves, “does this lineup with what the Word of God is saying?”

    • Grace Mincel

      Amen! That part of scripture scares me too.

  • jjhot254 .

    aren’t they even a little bit afraid of judgment?

  • Eric Bombeck

    Money in and of itself is not evil nor is owning nice things including a private jet… In todays culture of the liberal tactic of attacking the rich, Christians seem to be duped into this thinking..The bible says the love of money is wrong …not money itself… The litmus test for a preacher is whether he places Jesus Christ at the top of all things and declares that He is the only way to salvation… If a pastor does that ..the other things that we all disagree about are debatable.. What if A preacher who loved God was told by God to go into abject poverty for a season? God told Him to sell everything and live like a homeless person? Is this OK ? Would people be all over him about it? Or would they cheer him on saying finally a guy who gets it? Would some say God doesn’t want us to live like that in poverty ..he;s giving Christianity a bad name.. The logic in all the comments i see below is God wants Christians to be middle class.. and yet you forget that 95% of the world sees our middle class as really rich and its a good possibility they are thinking we are selfish Americans with our 2 cars in each house etc… Here’s the point.. no a rebuke…Be careful attacking, with your words, a man of God , we are not to judge fellow Christians if you deem these guys as non Christians because they have jets ..you dont understand what the requirements to be a Christian are..Here’
    s the other thing Ive heard Jessie Duplantis talk about giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to various Christian charities… I dont know these guys hearts only God knows it but they claim to be fellow brothers in Christ and shame on all of you for judging them for simply owning a way to get from one place to the other to preach the gospel

  • oldenough2remember

    Shame on them for thinking more of themselves than they do of the souls of unsaved people they could talk to on those planes. I do not believe God ever tells his people to put their own comfort first and make sure they don’t come in contact with demons. To the contrary, He said believers have power over demons in Jesus Name. These men had better review the state of their soul because eternity is a long time to think about how you had that fancy airplane but missed out on the true calling of God, which is to spread the Gospel to anyone who needs to hear it. Just like politicians…..it’s about power, money and control. Their souls are in danger…….

  • FoJC_Forever

    It’s okay to stand up and speak to God, people did it all the time when they were speaking to Jesus – who is God’s Word manifested as a human. Many use false, physical displays to convince people they are humble before God, but are only putting on an act. However, if God is speaking to you and tells you that your Faith is stagnating, then you say something like, “Forgive me, LORD, and fill me with Your Word so that the Faith that only comes from Your Word will remain alive, vibrant and effective in me.” Sadly, Duplantis stood up and told God he thought He was wrong. His first response was to reject the message he claims was coming from God. This is bad.

    Whether a person flies commercial or private isn’t the sign of whether or not they are serving God’s purposes for His Kingdom. This is just a distraction to get people to side against one false group (or person) to join another false group (or person).

    Don’t let people who abuse the teachings on and about Faith deter you from knowing its power and purpose. This is one of the bad things going on in religion, and has been for thousands of years, people side against those who are false preachers and teachers with other groups who are just as false – but in different ways. The enemy of your enemy isn’t always your friend.

    Faith always produces what God has promised. Unbelief stops people from believing God’s Word and receiving the Faith it imparts. God’s Word always accomplishes what He sends it to do in every heart, soul, and body who will receive it. Listen to Jesus, not any false teacher, regardless of their denominational or non-denominational affiliation(s). If you know Jesus, then you are baptized by His Spirit and can hear His Voice. It is His Word that imparts Faith.

    Follow Jesus, find Truth.

  • UtahRed

    Ok so they don’t want to fly on commercial jet, how about a charter flight? Why ask your congregation to spend so much money on a jet and the maintenance and upkeep? That’s why i don’t give to these ministries anymore. I understand their need for space for supplies but really owning a jet is an expensive endeavor. If they have that much money, then they don’t need mine.

  • Bret Stewart

    could it be that they would have a chance to minister one on one with people who did not sit on the other side of a tv camera. these guys are well I think I could say individuals in their own way to which I take their words lightly.

  • Larry Christiansen

    Based upon your logic, it must also be wrong for any executives to use private corporate jets to meet demanding travel schedules. You’re very unrealistic and unfair about this. These evangelists head multi million dollar ministries that minister to to literally millions of people around the world and it is both unfair and unrealistic to believe that their hetic travel schedules could be adequately met buy flying commercial airlines.

    • Amos Moses

      Based on the biblical model, not a Peter Drucker-business-church-model, there is no need for them to fly anywhere to preach the gospel. Christ never traveled more than 50 miles from His home of Bethlehem.

      If their schedules are too “demanding” then maybe they need to slow down and actually preach the gospel instead of the prosperity nonsense they deal in.

      “These evangelists head multi million dollar ministries that minister to to literally millions of people”

      If they would only preach the gospel…………………………………………………………

  • kim segar

    This is full blown apostasy that G-d said would come in the last days…also lots of it is blasphemy where they steal the money that was allotted to the church..they are not only fallen but comment blasphemy…

  • Alice Read

    He should go talk to Mark Cahill. That would set him straight.

  • peanut butter

    These men? are supposed to be changing hearts from the control of demons, to acceptance of Jesus Christ. I wouldn’t want to be on one of those jets with them… I would be afraid “I” was flying with demons! The only word he nonchalantly said was ‘hell’ while he was explaining why they are so ‘special’ that they need these expensive jets.

  • [email protected]

    Sadly, these preachers make this true —
    “When we Christians behave badly, or fail to behave well, we are making Christianity unbelievable to the outside world.” ~~ C.S. Lewis
    Peggy Overstreet, author
    “Gladness in Your Presence”

  • sandra-paquette-

    It is hard to believe people would actually believe these kind of wolves who are only after their money. All they have to do is search the scriptures. These guys are from the pits of hell. Common sense tells you all you have to do is look at the life of Jesus, the Son of God, he walked and preached the gospel. He never spoke about money, other than “what would a man inherit if he lost his very own soul” and he kicked the money exchangers out of the temple. These wolves will have a lot to answer for as well as the ones who follow them cause they to have no excuse the word is truth and been there all the time. SEARCH for it.

  • Phillip Stemson

    Newsflash (for some): We came into this world with nothing and we die with nothing. Money and things have no meaning in heaven (or hell). These phony preachers love money and there is never enough for them. Thus, the term “ravenous wolves” that the Bible calls them.

  • Curt Thomas

    I’m not surprised that those who preach “another gospel” you know, the gospel of ‘GET’ . After all Jesus used a private jet to avoid coming in contact with demons remember? I think the gospel says that the Donkey’s name was jet and leather sandals are the best way to avoid coming in contact with those possessed with demons. Maybe Jesus should have consulted the prosperity “un-gospel” before wasting his time with the unwashed, poor, sinners. He could have learned that the gospel teaches that ‘TRUTH is the root of all evil but money is the way to overcome THE TRUTH.
    I can only pray for the followers of these false prophets that they would read the whole Bible because cherry picking the Bible is only good for fruit salad. These false prophets will answer to GOD for misleading people but that doesn’t excuse us from seeking and following THE TRUTH. in the end God will ask why we didn’t follow Jesus instead of men. We are to be held accountable and saying that we were mislead by authors, ministers, pastors or popes is no excuse because Satan may appear as all of these. Give to the poor not millionaires so they can “heap unto themselves great riches”
    Only the WORD OF GOD, the BIBLE is true. So turn off your computers, radios and televisions
    OPEN YOUR BIBLE and READ IT! READ IT! READ IT! AND THEN READ IT AGAIN!