Republican Bible Belt Governor Bashes Bill Protecting Objectors to ‘Gay Marriage’ as UnChristian

Nathan DealATLANTA, Ga. — The Republican, Southern Baptist-identifying governor of Georgia recently cited the Bible in denouncing a proposed bill to protect objectors to same-sex “marriage,” as he asserts that the move is not Christlike.

In speaking to reporters following a ribbon-cutting ceremony in Atlanta on March 3, Gov. Nathan Deal said that he would reject any bill that “allows discrimination in our state in order to protect people of faith.”

He was referring to a recent legislative move to combine H.B. 757,  also known as the Pastor Protection Act, with S.B. 284, the First Amendment Defense Act of Georgia. As previously reported, the Pastor Protection Act unanimously passed the Georgia House, finding support among Democrats and Republicans alike.

“No minister of the gospel or cleric or religious practitioner ordained or authorized to solemnize marriages, perform rites, or administer sacraments according to the usages of the denomination … in violation of his or her right to free exercise of religion under the Constitution of this state or the United States,” it reads in part.

The First Amendment Act of Georgia mandates that “[g]overnment shall not take any discriminatory action against wholly or partially on the basis that such person believes, speaks or acts in accordance with a sincerely-held religious belief or moral conviction that marriage is or should be recognized as the union of one man and one woman or that sexual relations are properly reserved to such a marriage.”

On Thursday, Gov. Deal cited the Bible in asserting that the proposed laws were somehow unChristian.

“I think what the New Testament teaches us is that Jesus reached out to those who were considered the outcasts, the ones that did not conform to the religious societies’ view of the world and said to those of belief, ‘This is what I want you to do,'” he said. “We do not have a belief—in my way of looking at religion—that says we have to discriminate against anybody. If you were to apply those standards to the teaching of Jesus, I don’t think they fit.”

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Deal then pointed to the biblical account of the woman at the well to further his point. The woman had been married five times and was living with a man who was not her husband. Jesus called upon the woman to turn to His truth to find Living Water.

“What that says is we have a belief in forgiveness and that we do not have to discriminate unduly against anyone on the basis of our own religious beliefs,” he said.

Deal, who personally believes in marriage as being defined as the union of one man and one woman, said that he does not see those who disagree as being a “threat” to Christians. Deal attends First Baptist Church of Gainesville, which has several female pastors on its team.

“We are not jeopardized, in my opinion, by those who believe differently from us,” he asserted. “We are not, in my opinion, put in jeopardy by virtue of those who might hold different beliefs or who may not even agree with what our Supreme Court said the law of the land is on the issue of same-sex marriage. I do not feel threatened by the fact that people who might choose same-sex marriages pursue that route.”

“I hope that we can all just take a deep breath, recognize that the world is changing around us, and recognize that it is important that we protect fundamental religious beliefs,” Deal continued. “But we don’t have to discriminate against other people in order to do that. And that’s the compromise that I’m looking for.”

The office of Georgia House Speaker David Ralston issued a statement in response to the governor’s comments, outlining that Ralston is open to working out a compromise on the proposals.

“Speaker Ralston appreciates and shares Governor Deal’s sincere commitment to protecting religious liberties while ensuring that Georgia continues to welcome everyone with genuine southern hospitality,” it said. “Productive conversations continue with the governor’s staff as well as other members of House leadership regarding HB 757 and the Speaker is confident that we can find a way to move forward together.”


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  • Beach Bro

    The Governor has common sense. Myself, I think it’s high time we edit out or ignore the anti-gay prejudice in the bible. Then no one will have anything negative to say about Christianity again.

    • Amos Moses

      So you want to edit the bible even though it says, in four separate places, we are prohibited from doing so….. Not the first time that has been done….. and it is still wrong.

      Kinda like saying that “we don’t like what the law says about traffic lights, so we will just ignore them” as if that will change anything and it is not dangerous

      It won’t and it will still be dangerous……………………..

      • ChristopherATL

        Since you suggest we live by the literal interpretation always…Do you know how much I could get for selling my daughter into slavery? That too is Bible sanctioned. I’m a little short on cash.

        • Scott Davenport

          Old testament and old law, moron…… 🙂

          • Bob Johnson

            So are the Ten Commandments.

          • ChristopherATL

            The NT also says integration goes against “god”. Remember? The extremists used to use that against desegregation in the 50’s and 60’s…and other Bible passages to justify slavery, women’s voting rights, etc., etc., etc. Does anyone else see a pattern here?

        • Amos Moses

          “Since you suggest we live by the literal interpretation always.”

          We do not get to alter the bible on our whim. There is nothing in the NT that says we should do what you suggest. You speak out of ignorance of what scripture says.

          • ChristopherATL

            Oh! So you can pick and choose what you want to follow. Interesting….”religion”.

          • Amos Moses

            “So you can pick and choose what you want to follow. ”

            Not what i said, you do not get to choose which traffic laws you will follow because the laws books have them written down and you do not get to edit them at your whim. Scripture is no different. You can choose to ignore traffic laws and suffer the consequences, same with scripture. But we have no authority to alter scripture.

          • Verisimilitude

            The only ‘religion’ worth following is the one you create for yourself, from the bits and pieces of those of others…heck, it’s not like you’re really going to entirely re-invent the wheel…from scratch!

          • ChristopherATL

            We are all born with a sense of right and wrong. I do believe the universe works for good. Difficult times can bring great knowledge and enlightenment. People must work to see truth when they see it and not because they are taught it.

          • Verisimilitude

            You may know Siddhartha also made that last point of yours in the Kalama Sutta.

          • gizmo23

            The OT says gay people should be killed. People use the OT all the time to attack gays

          • Amos Moses

            And just because they do does not make them right. It is not part of the NT, being “gay” is still a sin, they are actually killing themselves, just that we are not called to kill every sinner. You do not believe scripture in any event, so why do you care?

            Do you believe evolution to be true? i believe you have said so, but please refresh my memory, do you?

          • gizmo23

            Yes I believe in an evolution process am I’m also Christian. I see no conflict

          • Amos Moses

            There lies the problem. You seem to think God is a liar. He put creation in the bible and you say it is something else. Your prerogative, but it is not the christian view if you believe in Christ as Christ confirmed the creation in Matthew 19.

            But more than that, if you believe in evolution, then you have no complaint as to how anyone is treated, it is just evolution. If they are beaten, or killed, or bullied, or taken advantage of, or made a slave, it is all for the benefit of the person doing it and part of evolution. You have no complaint. There is no right or wrong in evolution, and no one has any rights under that paradigm.

          • This style ten and six

            Your second paragraph is just nonsense. The fact of evolution does not mean that we can’t live in an ordered society. In fact our large, evolved brains enable us to create a just society.

          • Amos Moses

            “In fact our large, evolved brains enable us to create a just society.”

            Evidence? Right, none, nothing to prove that, no fossils, nothing, so not science, just made up garbage. Unless you have a very old brain that you dug up and can prove it. Right, you can’t, you don’t.

            “The fact of evolution does not mean that we can’t live in an ordered society.”

            Sure, it is just that NONE of that is part of evolution and if that is the paradigm evolutionists want to claim……. they have NO COMPLAINT if that is how it turns out. Evolution is about brutality and survival, and there are no rights, and no right and wrong. They have NO claim on those concepts.

            They have no complaint.

          • This style ten and six

            I see that you are not open to sensible discussion.

          • Amos Moses

            You are claiming science. If you have science, then provide it. But you do not.

            It is your paradigm…………. live under it and provide the proof.

          • Verisimilitude

            tbf, someone should tell you…

            …stupid isn’t your own personal monopoly.

          • Amos Moses

            I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who are trying to annoy me.

          • Verisimilitude

            Oh puhleeze…you defend your non-existent ‘god’ from accusations of mendaciousness [look it up]…

            …sad, v. sad.

          • Amos Moses

            You know what ………………. nah, you are not worth it.

          • Verisimilitude

            In the eyes of ‘god’…

            …we are all ‘worth’ it.

          • gizmo23

            You have no understanding of evolution. It has nothing to do with how you treat others.

          • Amos Moses

            How you treat other is a MORAL judgement and there are no morality in evolution. You have no claim on morality or a moral code of how others are treated if you think evolution is real.

            It is YOUR paradigm, live under it.

          • gizmo23

            Man is the only animal that plans warfare and also kills it’s unborn. How has religion stopped those sins?

          • Amos Moses

            Sorry, not sure that is so, Apes seem to do the same thing and other animals seem to do that. It is not religion that causes that, it is greed.

            So you say you are a christian but you are now arguing against religion? Sorry, i am getting very confused by your line of thought. You want to claim one and the other at the sametime and the ideas are diametrically opposed. Which master are you trying to serve?

            Right, wrong, good, evil, rights and how others are treated, those are all moral judgments. They do not exist in evolution and if you believe in evolution, then you have no claim on morality and how others are treated. It is that simple.

          • gizmo23

            Religion and faith are two seperate things. People had moral codes way before the Bible was written

          • Amos Moses

            Sir, your position is that we all came, not from God, but from evolution. So to follow that, you must be saying moral codes “evolved”. You have no evidence that is true. And in fact, under evolution, there are no moral codes, there is no morality, and if you believe “evolution” to be true, morality is not part of that paradigm. Evolutionists have absolutely no claim to morality as it is not in anyway part of “evolution”. They have no complaint as to how others are treated and if there is good or evil in the world because under “evolution” it does not exist.

            We are not talking about the bible. We are talking about evolution and its LACK of morality.

            And again, you are here saying basically, “evolution and not the bible”, and at the same time saying you are a christian. Sir, if Genesis is a lie then the whole bible is a lie, and your claim to be a christian is a lie.

            Which master are you serving?

          • gizmo23

            We all came from God

          • Amos Moses

            Okay, then where in scripture does it say evolution? Or describe it? Or anything close to it?

            Were we created or not? If man has morality, then from where did that come, because scripture answers that question? Or do you say scripture, and therefore God lies?

            Really, if Genesis is a lie, then the entire bible is a lie. What say you?

          • ChristopherATL

            No…YOU are part of the problem. You don’t get that BILLIONS

          • Amos Moses

            No, i get that you dont believe, i do not care if you believe or not.

            “You talk a big game about love and Jesus and non-judgement, yet judgement is all you offer.”

            Where did i say that?

            “Stop! Your bible means nothing to me and that is my right as a U.S. citizen”

            No.

          • Amos Moses

            ” You talk a big game about love and Jesus and non-judgement, yet judgement is all you offer.”

            Actually, all of these scripture say i do get to judge…righteous judgment……. and so do you… so why are you judging me for judging?

            Matthew 7 Read the WHOLE chapter

            Matthew 18:15

            John 7:24

            2 Timothy 3:16

            1 Corinthians 5 & 6

            1 Corinthians 2:15

            Proverbs 27:5, Proverbs 31:9

          • ChristopherATL

            Bless your heart…you go ahead and judge all you want then. I couldn’t care less. As long as the LGBT community has corporate America as allies, economic sanctions will continue to ensure corporate rich States like Georgia will remain equal to all. Just know that all that judgement is only hurting you. Have a great Sunday!

          • Amos Moses

            “Bless your heart…you go ahead and judge all you want then. I couldn’t care less. ”

            Then why are you here making such comments if you “couldn’t care less. ”

            “As long as the LGBT community has corporate America as allies, economic sanctions will continue to ensure corporate rich States like Georgia will remain equal to all. Just know that all that judgement is only hurting you.”

            So as long as the LGBLTQRSTUVWXYZ has the support of the world, that means what exactly?

            Everyone believing the same lie only make them all liars.

          • ChristopherATL

            What that means is that the LGBT community will see full rights and protections, as they should and we can agree to let God judge us at that time. I have a feeling your self righteous personality will need extra time when it’s your turn. But as long as YOU feel good about your actions and words, that’s all that matters…or is it?

          • Amos Moses

            “What that means is that the LGBT community will see full rights and protections, as they should and we can agree to let God judge us at that time.”

            The lawless will suffer and that is what you are advocating. If you are a LGBLTQRSTUVWXYZ……… you have already been judged….. Sorry to tell you.

          • ChristopherATL

            I am completely fine with you believing that as I feel the same about you. I’m done with this conversation. You need help beyond any comment section conversation. I’m going to spend time with my husband and my kids. Thank you SCOTUS and Obama!

          • Amos Moses

            ChristopherATL
            “I’m done with this conversation. You need help beyond any comment section conversation. I’m going to spend time with my >>>>>husband<<<< and my kids. Thank you SCOTUS and Obama!"

            "Christopher", being a male name, which one of you is the woman?

          • Verisimilitude

            …’god’?

          • Amos Moses

            “Yes I believe in an evolution process am I’m also Christian. I see no conflict”

            1Ki 18:21 And Elijah came unto all the people, and said, How long halt ye between two opinions? if the LORD be God, follow him: but if Baal, then follow him. And the people answered him not a word.

            Mat 6:24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

            Luke 16:13 No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.

          • Verisimilitude

            Still failing to get the message of Yeshua…heck, you even call him by a name he was never known by…

            …how’s that for a false start!

          • Amos Moses

            Is His name in Hebrew what you say,? Sure.
            Is it a transliteration of His name in English? Sure.
            Is it wrong to call Him that name in English? Only if you are into legalism.

            But what do you care? You do not believe in Him and who He says He is, in any event.

            …how’s that for a false start!

          • Verisimilitude

            My imagination tells me Yeshua bin Yousuf had much to teach us…

            …I’m delighted to have learn some of that.

          • Amos Moses

            You are not saved by learning. He came to die for sinners.

            Did you learn that?

          • Verisimilitude

            “Did you learn that?”

            I’d agree that’s at the ‘heart’ of what you imagine to be true.

          • Amos Moses

            So, as i said, even though you know His name,,,, and have “learned” things from Him….. you do not know him, and you are not saved.

            What else is new?

          • Verisimilitude

            Ecclesiastes 1:9

          • Amos Moses

            Ecclesiastes 1 – and one of my favorite passages………………………

            1:1 The words of the Preacher, the son of David, king in Jerusalem.
            1:2 Vanity of vanities, saith the Preacher, vanity of vanities; all is vanity.
            1:3 What profit hath a man of all his labour which he taketh under the sun?
            1:4 One generation passeth away, and another generation cometh: but the earth abideth for ever.
            1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
            1:6 The wind goeth toward the south, and turneth about unto the north; it whirleth about continually, and the wind returneth again according to his circuits.
            1:7 All the rivers run into the sea; yet the sea is not full; unto the place from whence the rivers come, thither they return again.
            1:8 All things are full of labour; man cannot utter it: the eye is not satisfied with seeing, nor the ear filled with hearing.
            1:9 The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun.
            1:10 Is there any thing whereof it may be said, See, this is new? it hath been already of old time, which was before us.
            1:11 There is no remembrance of former things; neither shall there be any remembrance of things that are to come with those that shall come after.
            1:12 I the Preacher was king over Israel in Jerusalem.
            1:13 And I gave my heart to seek and search out by wisdom concerning all things that are done under heaven: this sore travail hath God given to the sons of man to be exercised therewith.
            1:14 I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
            1:15 That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.
            1:16 I communed with mine own heart, saying, Lo, I am come to great estate, and have gotten more wisdom than all they that have been before me in Jerusalem: yea, my heart had great experience of wisdom and knowledge.
            1:17 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit.
            1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.

          • Verisimilitude

            Ecclesiastes 3:1

          • Craig Tarter

            Wow!

      • Cady555

        There is a difference between “do not ignore anything in the Bible” and “do not admit or acknowledge that you ignore stuff in the Bible all the time.”

        Go back and read your book. You will find that christians ignore about 80% or more of the bible. They just rationalize and pretend they don’t.

        • Amos Moses

          See, you do not understand what the bible is about………….. if anyone needs to read it…. it is not me…… and you really should not argue about things of which you have no knowledge.

      • Bob Johnson

        I take it that you are not a proponent of the Documentary Hypothesis.

    • Josey

      Edit out God’s word, God’s word is a sure thing and every word that proceeds out of the Mouth of God will not pass away, go ahead and try editing it but you will stand before Him one day as we all will and see what He thinks about editing His word to fit your standard…LOL…btw the sodomites have already edited God’s word with their unholy version of their “new gospel” that they use to make them feel religious and normal but that saves no one from an eternity of hell where there will be gnashing of teeth and torment and where there is no rest day or night for those who rebel against God’s design. I pray your eyes are opened before it’s too late, this is not a place you want to spend eternity! Sounds like you are an advocate of the NWReligion which will tie all religions together and change the times and the Word of God to fit man’s will not Gods. SAD!

      • gizmo23

        I heard the NWR was right around the corner in 1968. Pure bunk and hokum

      • gizmo23

        The original Bible is an edit of older texts. The Bible has been changed many times

        • Bob Johnson

          In fact, the Protestant church leaves out seven entire books that are in the Catholic Bible. That’s editing!

      • Bob Johnson

        I take it that you are not a proponent of the Documentary Hypothesis.

  • boarderthom

    We have real religious freedom in our country. If you want to start a church which worships the reincarnation of Groucho Marx you can do that. In my village people who run public businesses treat the public fairly by not discriminating (and that includes sexual orientation), and yet any church can excommunicate anyone for being gay or anyone who simply expresses a pro-gay opinion.

  • Michael C

    The “First Amendment Defense Act” is very oddly named. I wasn’t aware that the First Amendment religious freedom protections needed additional legislation to continue protecting religious freedoms. Also, if the purpose of this legislation is the protection of our religious freedoms, why does it only pertain to one specific religious belief? Don’t all religious beliefs deserve protection?

    Most importantly, if protecting a person’s right to act in accordance to their personal or religious beliefs about marriage is the purpose for this legislation, why doesn’t it permit stores to refuse service to interfaith or interracial couples?

    • Dean

      Michael C., thank you for saving me keystrokes. I agree with every word you wrote.

  • Carlos

    Politicians are like everyone else, they will be judged by God. Going along with the crowd is always wrong.

    • Carcosa

      unless the crowd agrees with you cultist t

  • Cesar Molina

    The Bible will always supersede any public or politicians opinion. Why? because it came from God who some of you don`t fear and will bring His wrath upon this whole nation. Any of you ever read about Sodom and Gomorrah???

    • Carcosa

      this is is a secular nation so not religious book has any authority here

      • Bertha Warren

        The Devil is liar. Jesus said this. And he deceive and misled.

        • Carcosa

          this is is a secular nation so not religious book has any authority here

    • gizmo23

      I don’t see where 2 guys getting married are any threat to me

  • Bertha Warren

    World is change, but Word of Jesus is not change and will not change. We cannot opt out Word of Jesus to conform to our flesh. Our flesh is always craving, for ungodly thing. Word says our flesh is enemy of God. If any us saved our unsaved need dig deeply in BIBLE. If you unsaved He will send Holy Spirit of Truth to you.

    • Josey

      amen Bertha

    • gizmo23

      How is out flesh the enemy of God?

      • Bertha Warren

        Romans 8:7 Please read whole Book of Romans, to get full understanding.

        • gizmo23

          I want your thoughts. I have read Romans

          • Bertha Warren

            That is my thought. I am trying really heard, line up with Word. Thank . Been great. I am not in debating God’s, it is final far as I am concern.

    • Becky

      Amen!

  • Brad F

    He must have a grandson of nephew moving up the political ladder, so he’s making things easier for him. Politicians have no morals at all. The only worship they know about is self-worship.

    • softengine

      Truth. Thank you.

    • Darren Watson

      Yeah, because integrity and doing the right thing even when a bunch of religious zealots are demanding the wrong means it was political?
      FACEPALM at this nuclear grade stupid

  • Josey

    Deal then pointed to the biblical account of the woman at the well to further his point. The woman had been married five times and was living with a man who was not her husband. Jesus called upon the woman to turn to His truth to find Living Water.
    “What that says is we have a belief in forgiveness and that we do not have to discriminate unduly against anyone on the basis of our own religious beliefs,” he said.

    I love God’s word to us, yes Jesus let her know that He knew about her life and that He could give her living water to where she’d never thirst again, the water Jesus gives changes a person, they don’t desire the old life after drinking the water He gives for Jesus quenches thirst, but she had a part to play, she had to believe on Him, receive forgiveness and receive the water offered to her which would stop her sinning by fornication, Jesus always said, “Go and sin no more”.
    Now, where I have a problem is using this scripture as a basis for Christians whose conscience is pricked to go against the words of God on daily living and join in a compromise to celebrate the unholy union by whatever means that the NWR uses to force upon us of faith to obey Christ not man. We are set apart to obey Christ, not be a part of this New World Religion that is going on causing compromise in Christ’s church, His return is near and it is He we as His people and must stand before, not man.

  • Patty Williams

    This is WRONG! Does he agree with Murder? pedophilia? Drunkenness? Swindlers? Greed? They are all covered as major sin in 1 Corinthians 6: 9-10. Some of these are OK in man view, But God hates them all. Homosexuality is an abomination, between men between women, it is wickedness. God gave the sodomites over to their vile affections, AIDS. ( Romans 1: 26-27) Millions of innocents suffer because of this. Innocent Children , wives, husbands, because one adult decided to have sex with someone , or share a needle with someone and brought it home, passing it on to their spouse or child. Other sexually transmitted diseases are not usually found in Marriages. God created ONE MAN one WOMAN. Marriage is ordained by God, or its not marriage. Romans 1:32 warns everyone , even if they are supporters of such vile wickedness, backbiters, haters of God, Proud ( PRIDE) boasters, inventors of evil things, envy, covetousness, murder. Support for any of this, wickedness and vile disgust, then in the eyes of God, he is just as guilty as those who do it . ( Romans 1:32) Mans law has changed, but Gods never has.

    • Jalapeno

      “Marriage is ordained by God, or its not marriage”

      What about all the non-religious marriages?

      I’m pretty sure that silly little certificate I signed had the word “marriage” on it.

      • Patty Williams

        Non “religious” marriage is just a piece of paper. That’s all it is. people who label marriage as “religious” have no idea about faith. I don’t have religion. I have faith.

        • Jalapeno

          It’s not just a piece of paper to me. Who are you to be able to claim that my marriage is worth less than someone elses?

        • Cady555

          Wow. It is time to look outside your bubble and realize there are a lot of people on this planet who do not share your religious beliefs. They are living happy and contented lives an their marriages seem to be chugging along just fine.

        • acontraryview

          Well if non religious marriage is “just a piece of paper”, then it shouldn’t matter to you, should it?

          • ChristopherATL

            Great point!

        • Darren Watson

          If it’s just a piece of paper, they why the hell are you up in arms over someone else having it, when not when a non-christian couple have one. Could it be…… bigotry at its finest?

          • Patty Williams

            I am no bigot. I am simply stating the truth. if the truth burns your ears, thats YOUR problem, not mine.

          • acontraryview

            When you desire to financially and legally harm others for no reason other than religious beliefs, you are indeed being bigoted.

            “I am simply stating the truth.”

            No, you are stating what you have chosen to believe is the truth.

          • Darren Watson

            You being a bigot is your problem. Me pointing it out is just my civic duty

        • acontraryview

          “Non “religious” marriage is just a piece of paper. ”

          If that is the case, why do you care?

          “God gave the sodomites over to their vile affections, AIDS.”

          Over 90% of HIV infections world-wide are the result of heterosexual relations.

      • sandra-paquette-

        In God’s eyes it means Nothing. God does not recognize it. Marriage between a man and woman only. God’s laws NEVER change, so man can make all the laws and change all the laws he wants. It means absolutely nothing at the end of life. God states who will not make it to heaven he is very clear on it.

        • Jalapeno

          Good thing many people are perfectly happy to be married without the”permission” of your god.

        • acontraryview

          “so man can make all the laws and change all the laws he wants.”

          Oh, good. Then you have no issue with civil marriage being allowed between two people of the same gender, right?

    • Paige Turner

      You sound nice.

  • RWH

    May I suggest that anyone who wants a state where Christian values are enshrined and gays are trampled on, go to Russia. The capitol has 14 cathedrals built on it, and the Russian Church has managed to build cathedrals in the capitals of North Korea, China, Cuba, and Saudi Arabia: countries where Christian worship is harassed. There is only one problem though: you must desire to venerate the icons. There are laws to prevent the heterodox from building churches or conducting any type of missionary activity advocating false religion, so you won’t find many Baptist churches there.

  • softengine

    What are we debating (loose term) here? Are we talking about stores not baking cakes again? Or are we talking about forcing pastors of churches to perform same-sex ‘marriages’? The first, I thought we had settled – If they don’t want to compromise their convictions, then they shouldn’t go into a business that makes wedding cakes. The second however, is a whole different can of worms.

    • Cady555

      Pastors and churches are protected already. This bill changes nothing in that regard.

      It’s been 60 years since the Civil Rights Act and desegregation and not one church has been forced to officiate a mixed marriage

      The governor merely recognizes that the church doesn’t get to control or interfere with secular marriages that happen outside the church.

  • chronicintel

    Props to the Governor for seeing reason. It is not easy to take a stand for what’s right when others disagree with you.

    • Christian Elder

      He took a stand for big money not for doing right. Too much corporate cash flowing into Georgia he didn’t want to jeopardize that.

      • chronicintel

        That may be true and likely that he is doing it for corporate interest, but I like to believe the man has a heart and a conscience and that played a role in it as well. I guess that is one thing I’ll have to take on faith.

  • acontraryview

    Isn’t it wonderful that we live in a nation where citizens are free to hold to whatever religious beliefs they care to?

    • hytre64

      But, apparently we are not allowed to actually ACT on our religious beliefs. IOW, we can have “religious liberty” in our heads, but heaven help us if we actually translate that into an action (or lack thereof) that is “politically incorrect”.

      • acontraryview

        Oh, you poor thing. Tell me, in what ways are you not allowed to “ACT” on your religious beliefs?

      • acontraryview

        Oh you poor thing. Tell me, in what ways do you want to ACT on your religious beliefs that you are not allowed to?

        • hytre64

          Condescension is the way a poor intellect tries to shut up opposing view points.

          ONE Activity I am specifically talking about (we is first person plural) is that a friend of mine recently had to make the decision of whether or not to continue his photography business. He viewed it as a ministry, in that he would charge less than normal for commercial photography while helping people to capture remembrances of their weddings, and at the same time use the funds generated from this to buy equipment so that he could work with local ministries for free to help them with photography and/or video capture/editing.

          Because he views SSM as not in alignment with Christ’s laws, he cannot participate in a SSM ceremony. Rather than expose himself to lawsuits, his public photography studio will no longer do weddings. He will, as a private individual, do weddings for friends (or relatives of friends), but this has impacted how he is running his photography business, as, apparently, he is not free to act upon his religious beliefs. Instead, he has a choice of compelled support for SSM or facing very expensive lawsuits detrimental to him and his family or substantially changing the way he operates his business.

          • acontraryview

            “(we is first person plural)”

            Yes it is and as such it would include YOU. Yet you have provided no example of how YOU are not allowed to act upon your religious beliefs. You provided an example of someone else. So, I’ll ask again, in what ways do YOU want to act on your religious beliefs that you are not allowed to?

            “his public photography studio will no longer do weddings.”

            Then he did act on his religious beliefs. His action was to no longer do weddings as part of his public photography business. He was NOT kept from acting upon his religious beliefs.

            “this has impacted how he is running his photography business, as, apparently, he is not free to act upon his religious beliefs.”

            He did act upon his religious beliefs. That the action he took had consequences does not mean that wasn’t free to act. All decisions have consequences.

  • Christian Elder

    Deal goes to a Baptist Church that has female pastors? No wonder he didn’t have the courage to get this right.

  • Gott Mit Uns!

    I applaud Gov. Deal’s courageous stand for equality and demonstrating that bigotry is not a requirement of Christianity.

  • Craig Martin

    Marriage, as a function and ceremony of the church, does not belong to nor is it subject to definition by the state. Remember “separation of church and state?” That means the state cannot come into our house, rip this ceremony out of our hands, redefine it, and then force us to observe their definition. Seems this “wall of separation ” has a one way door in it. The state can dictate to the church, but certainly not the other way around. No, we will never accept or follow the state religion’s (PC) definition of the family or marriage. Believe whatever secular religion you want. I refuse your fundamentalist secular fanaticism and will follow my God not your god.

    • Gott Mit Uns!

      Non-fundamentalist Christians have a right to civil marriage that does not involve your religion or your church, and you have no right to force your religious beliefs upon them.

      • Craig Martin

        Absolutely. I agree 100% percent. Works both ways. Keep your secular fundamentalist religion out of my life. Let’s keep in mind whose religion is now being legislated… it is not mine for sure. It is your secular religion that is being legislated….

        • Bob Johnson

          Sounds great. Christians can skip the “legal marriage,” but then of course they do not get to file joint taxes, have visitation rights in hospitals, spousal insurance coverage, and some 1500 federal and state privileges associated with that secular legal document.

        • Gott Mit Uns!

          And when a fundamentalist Christian couple seeks a legal divorce, they can go to their church instead of the courthouse. Good luck with that.

    • Verisimilitude

      Who gives a a monkey’s about some church ceremony?

      What meaningless tripe that all is.

      The civil ceremony is the only ceremony with value.

      If you–and others–want to feel good about the ceremony done in a church…

      …there’s none who will stop you…just recognize this: There’s other ways just as valid as yours…

      …and they’re valid…just like yours.

      • Craig Martin

        Please read your own words to yourself. That is why we have a first amendment, to prevent people with opinions such as yours from railroading your beliefs… and lets keep that in mind… it is YOUR beliefs that are being legislated and forced on us, not the other way around. I don’t want to force my beliefs on you. Have your beliefs. Fine with me. Just leave us alone. Keep your secular religious fanaticism to yourself. I don’t want to hear it.

        • acontraryview

          Why is being “forced” on you?

        • ChristopherATL

          What you wrote makes no sense whatsoever. The first amendment allows for all people the right to believe as they choose and ensures this country does not make any federal law based on ANY religious ideology. It is you “Christians” that need to stop forcing your beliefs onto others. Real Christians practice what they preach. Instead, you are here in judgement of the the LGBT community…just as you have done to all minorities throughout history. No wonder people are leaving the church faster than ever.

          • Craig Martin

            Lets come back to reality now. What Christians, and what laws, are forcing anyone to believe anything? Please read the current events. Who is it that is making the laws? You do not see any “you must be baptized” laws or anything like that. The secular PC religion OTOH is pushing laws into place left and right (mostly left). The vast majority of Americans are in fact theists and most of them Christian. If there is some vast conspiracy to force everyone into believing what we believe…. where is it? Where are the mass demonstrations against atheists, muslims, jews? Where are they? We have the numbers… if such a thing existed we would surely know about and see it everywhere. So, please inform us. Where is this happening??? Be careful you do not begin to believe your own rhetoric. Makes you look a little silly. Like Hillary and her “vast right wing conspiracy.”
            All a big bugaboo. Fantasyland.

          • acontraryview

            “what laws, are forcing anyone to believe anything?”

            What laws are forcing Christians to believe anything?

        • Verisimilitude

          Of course you–or your ilk–want to impose your beliefs on the rest of us!

          You’re just finding doing so rough sledding right now…

        • acontraryview

          “it is YOUR beliefs that are being legislated and forced on us, not the other way around.”

          What legislation is in place that requires you to believe any differently than you have in the past?

    • TheKingOfRhye

      “the state cannot come into our house, rip this ceremony out of our
      hands, redefine it, and then force us to observe their definition”

      They did no such thing. Sure, a church can say they won’t perform same-sex marriages, or whatever type of marriage, I’m all for that. Don’t like it, find a different church. But your church doesn’t get to define marriage for people of other churches or of none, for that matter. How exactly do you think that the state is dictating to the church?

    • acontraryview

      “The state can dictate to the church,”

      In what way is the state dictating to the church?

      “No, we will never accept or follow the state religion’s (PC) definition of the family or marriage.”

      Nor are you required to.

  • Louisa Norman

    Gov. Deal, I’d like your opinion of “USA – from Puritans to Impure-itans” (Google).

    • http://theutterend.com steve widdows

      i have just become aware of the perverse thing the governor has done, and it does infuriate me, and it puts a burden on me to confront, -him, – his office. and the Lord willing, this i will do. but then i read all the – i’ll call it clutter- that comes forth here. Good job Amos; defending the faith; making a difference in the lives of some, pulling some out of the fire, hating even the garment spotted by the flesh. And good, Josey. I am amazed at the frivolous comments that follow such a sober warning as you just posted. when i hear such words it causes me that i get quiet and ponder the words, and consider myself. it is really dangerous to gloss over, scorn and mock and the One who created, and laid his life down for you. you get to go to a place called outer darkness, …forever, your soul alone forever. it’s a dangerous thing to mock and scorn. Those who put the truth in front of you that you might embrace it, but you have no love for the truth. …they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. and for this cause God shall send them strong delusion that they should believe a lie: that they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

      I think of what the governor has done, and the simple, and the scorners, …and the thought of Paul: But I will come to you shortly, if the Lord will, and will know, not the speech of them which are puffed up, but the power.

    • Verisimilitude

      Do you really think the Puritan world wasn’t riddled with sexual impropriety?

  • Kingdom Ambassador

    What an absolutely upside down world we live in, all because Christians have not taken seriously their dominion mandate as expressed in 2 Corinthians 10:4-6 and exhibited in Acts 17:6-7.

    Instead, we have governors decrying Christians for not embracing sodomite and lesbian marriages and Christians promoting religious freedom as if violations of the First Commandment are somehow the answer to what it generated in the first place.

    “…When the 18th-century founders replaced the First Commandment (found intact in some 17th-century Colonial Constitutions) with the First Amendment, America was transformed from a predominantly monotheistic Christian nation (a united nation under one God) into arguably the most polytheistic nation to exist (a divided nation under many gods).

    “It’s one thing to allow for individual freedom of conscience and private choice of gods, something impossible to legislate for or against. It’s another matter altogether for government to enable any and all religions to proliferate through the land and evangelize our posterity to false gods. This is what the First Amendment legitimizes. It is an unequivocal violation of the First Commandment and the polar opposite of the following First Commandment statute:

    ‘[Y]e shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves. For thou shall worship no other god: for Yahweh, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God: Lest thou … go a whoring after their gods….’ (Exodus 34:13-15)….”

    For more, google blog article “National Religious Freedom Day aka Celebrating the Founders’ Violation of the First Commandment”

    “[C]ontend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.” (Jude 1:3-4)

    • ChristopherATL

      Then leave. The US is a secular nation.

      • Blaylock

      • Craig Tarter

        Spoken like someone who exists in the past. Could you be gone, and just not know it yet? Perhaps you’ll never know. Ignorance is bliss…for a very short while, so enjoy it while you can’t.

    • TheKingOfRhye

      The country is still mostly Christians. A nation OF Christians, perhaps, but it never was a “Christian nation.”

      • Darren Watson

        It is.. but a majority of us are sick of you Religious Extremists. There is little difference between you guys and ISIS… You only lack the willingness to go that extra step to religious terrorism. You are all too willing though to use politics to force your religion on others.

        • TheKingOfRhye

          Huh? I don’t force my religion on others, because I don’t have one. I’m an agnostic atheist.

          • Darren Watson

            Yeah… sure.. that’s what you meant..
            Calling bullsh*t on that one

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I don’t know how, but you seem to have completely misunderstood what I was saying. What did you think I meant, anyway?

            Hell, just look at some of my other comments; I come here to argue AGAINST the people that want to force their religion on others. (and then, when they are prevented from doing so, complain about their freedom of religion being violated)

          • Darren Watson

            And per our founders, we are not a Christian Nation. We have freedom of and from religion here..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Exactly.

    • Verisimilitude

      Oh please…just ditch this Christian ‘god’ idea of yours

    • Verisimilitude

      Yes, what we need is more high-level people decrying Christianity…

      …but not–nor ever–Christians.

    • Darren Watson

      Dominion Mandate?
      Funny, I didn’t see that in the Bill OF Rights…
      Perhaps your desire for dominion over others is an attempt to play God.. Perhaps your need to rule over your fellow man is blasphemy, and you think it is good stewardship.

      Perhaps it is you on the wide highway to hell for choosing to value dominion over “doing unto the least of these, you have done unto Me”….

      Perhaps you are a humanist using the word of God to legitimize your bigoted humanistic need to control others…

      Let me know how it feel in the boiler room of hell

      • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

        Darren, thank you for responding.

        There are no more vacuums regarding dominion than there is legislated morality (or, more often than not, immorality). Someone is always in control of dominion.

        Consequently, everyone is a dominionist, as demonstrated in whose law they view as supreme. The only question is for whom. I am unequivocally a dominionist on behalf of Yahweh as sovereign and thus His moral law a supreme? The only question than remaining is: Who are you a dominionist for? If not for Yahweh than it’s some form of We the People.

        We the Peopleism is just a modern form of man doing that which is right in his own eyes, per Judges 21:25. Judges 21:25 is what today is normally known as humanism, and humanism is merely a contemporary form of Baalism.

        Google blog article “Could YOU be a Disciple of Baal and Not Know It?”

  • Jeff Briggs

    The fact that the governor is a Republican and a Baptist means nothing. The reality about marriage has not changed, never will. In the last days, most people who identify as Christian will apostasize, so none of this is surprising. We may reach the point where Christians will have to meet privately in homes.