Trump Jests to Evangelicals: Being Good President Is ‘Maybe the Only Way I’m Going to Get to Heaven’

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ORLANDO, Fla. — Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump jested to a gathering of evangelicals on Thursday that winning the election and being a good president might perhaps be his only way of getting to Heaven.

“I want to just say that whatever you can do … This will be an election that will go down in the history books and for evangelicals, for the Christians, for everybody, for everybody of religion,” he said at an Orlando gathering of an estimated 700 pastors hosted by the American Renewal Project. “This will be maybe the most important election that our country has ever had.”

“So go out and spread the word and once I get in, I will do my thing that I do very well,” Trump declared. “And I figure it’s probably maybe the only way I’m going to get to Heaven. So I better do a good job. Okay? Thank you. Thank you very much.”

The remark drew laughter from those in attendance.

As previously reported, in June, Trump also met with nearly 1,000 spiritual leaders in New York, asserting that he is a “tremendous believer” that is “on your side.”

“Christianity: I owe so much to it in so many ways. Through life, through having incredible children, through so many other things,” Trump stated. “But I also owe it for, frankly, standing here because the evangelical vote was mostly gotten by me.”

Trump also told reporters that same month that he hopes he won’t have to ask forgiveness for much.

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“You have said you never felt the need to ask for God’s forgiveness, and yet repentance for one’s sins is a precondition to salvation,” conservative talk show host and author Cal Thomas noted. “I ask you the question Jesus asked of Peter: Who do you say He is?”

“I will be asking for forgiveness, but hopefully I won’t have to be asking for much forgiveness,” Trump responded.

“As you know, I am Presbyterian and Protestant. I’ve had great relationships and developed even greater relationships with ministers. We have tremendous support from the clergy,” he continued. “I think I will be doing very well during the election with evangelicals and with Christians.”

Last July, Trump was asked by CNN’s Anderson Cooper if repentance and forgiveness are personally important, and he replied by asserting that he believes he is a good person who tries not to need forgiveness.

“I think repenting is terrific. I mean, it’s great,” Trump said.

“But do you feel the need to?” Cooper inquired.

“If I make a mistake, yeah, I think it’s great. But I try not to make mistakes,” Trump replied. “Why do I have to repent, why do I have to ask for forgiveness, if you are not making mistakes? I work hard. I’m an honorable person. I have thousands of people who work for me. I have employed tens of thousands of people over the years.”

“You give millions to charity,” Cooper chimed in.

“I built the Vietnam memorial in lower Manhattan with a small group of people,” Trump exclaimed.

Isaiah 64:6 says that “all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags.” Jesus also outlined in John 3:3, “Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”


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  • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

    Headline is misleading from the truth, is this a christian website? Just curious… Trump stated jokingly that the only way he may get to heaven if he does good for the people, which we know that the only way we get to heaven is by the Grace of God.

  • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

    I’m starting to think that CNN (CLINTON NEWS NETWORK) owns this news too. I surely hope that isn’t the case.

  • Josey

    John 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. It is this simple and those asking these questions of Trump are no better, Cooper asking him about repenting, it is mockery from all of them,they are ignorant of God’s ways and God does see all. These deceivers will wax worse and worse and the righteous will shine brighter and brighter! No man or woman understands salvation unless they have experienced it for themselves and works no matter how righteous they appear to one will not get one to heaven. There is only one way, through Jesus Christ alone. Jesus is coming soon, glory, honor and praise to Him alone! Jeremiah 17:7 “Blessed is the man that trusteth in the LORD, and whose hope the LORD is.”

    • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

      A huge Amen.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    He is a non-believer. Salvation is through faith in Jesus alone. ( Ephesians ch.2)

    • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

      Just wondering do you claim to be a christian? I’m not seeing the fruit from you just by this one sentence… sounds like you made yourself a judge of the law?

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Salvation involves the faith confession. (Romans ch.10) Also, the Holy Bible tells us to treat an unrepentant transgressor as a non-believer. I don’t think Christian Americans should support Trump although what he says about the liberals has been true. If he was a believer, he’d never have mocked Christianity like this and he’d have supported Mr. Cruz instead of running for office himself. With Hillary or Trump, it seems Christians won’t be able to retain religious freedom. Hillary has been oppressive against Christian causes all along, but Trump seems using Christians only for his own end, nothing of establishment of morality or justice. What are American Christians’ plans in the scenario Trump completely betrays his sympathy towards the right cause? Should American Christians endure lack of religious freedom in the 21st century? Loss of freedom in USA will cause so much grief in the already-suffering world. So sad. The Lord’s will be done.

        • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

          Ohhh so your a sore-loser Cruz supporter? smh

          The establishment wanted you to choose Cruz or Hillary so they play in the same sandbox as Obama…. Wake up!!

          Trump don’t like that sandbox and neither do “WE THE PEOPLE”.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Mr. Cruz is not a loser; he was just disliked by immoral culture. I think Mr. Cruz is the one who can truly defend religious freedom and infants’ life at the maximum level. You have two villains to choose from, for now.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Mr Cruz is a traitor to America.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You are not right. Mr. Cruz is one of the few real Americans left in USA. So many US haters nowadays within USA, especially the liberals. All those who hate the hard-working early white Christian settlers should be shipped out of the country. Those who do not respect the national founders and parents do not deserve the territory.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Explain what your Mr. Cruz was doing on Airforce One with Obama one week before the Republican National Convention? I’d say that Mr Obama was telling Mr. Cruz he couldn’t endorse Mr Trump, because he would lose some money… but then again Mr. Cruz lost around 11 million from one of his sponsors. Thats a huge loss.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            By the way… the question isn’t if Trump is a christian or not, its christians that needs to question themselves are they self-righteous like a Pharisee or not? We all deserve HELL FIRE, none of us deserve heaven. So it really bothers me when someone says that Trump isn’t a christian and then they claim to be a christian… That is like being a hypocrite and I think that is one thing that really kindled Jesus Christ’s anger as we all know… So we better be very CAREFUL what we say about Trump. Pray for him, pray for his family and pray for Mike Pence family, they are a loving christian family that needs our support.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Americans should just forget about money. America’s land and the good character is truly priceless. You work, and there is food. American children are at stake. Please be more serious.

          • Guest

            He’s also a traitor to his wife and family.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You guys should have supported Mr. Cruz if you are Christian. Mr. Cruz defended his wife and family against mockers.

          • Guest

            Cruz? You mean adulterer Cruz who solicited funds from the DNC? The Ashley Madison scandal/DC Madame scandal Cruz? He’s as bad as Hillary!

        • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

          Ohh by the way… God will have mercy upon whom He will have mercy upon, me and you don’t have that authority and Jesus SAVED all of His ELECT at Calvary and NOTHING is able to separate the LOVE of God from them, they are signed, sealed, & delivered from condemnation and heaven will be their home someday!! 🙂

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Read the new article. It is evident that he doesn’t even want to repent. The Holy Bible teaches that God have mercy upon the repentant; Trump shows no sign here. God can save him if He wills, but Trump is not the vessel Christians can show support for now. He has been unrepentant which means he is no Christian. Glad that he is at least that much honest.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            So you electing a president to protect the U.S. Constitution or a preacher in your church?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Keep praying and do sometrhing right instead of choosing the lesser evil. Trump is not someone whom Christians can vote for. He is insulting the Christian faith here. I think Americans are in the same old trap which the Germans had fallen once 80 years ago.

        • Becky

          God through his word has told us clearly that he chooses all leaders in every nation and this election is no different. If God wants Trump, or if he wants Hillary, it’s his will that will be done and he will choose the one that will further execute his plan. We simply cannot change anything…no one can. What’s sad is that many “Christians” believe that Trump, or even Hillary, is somehow going to change the direction of where we’re ultimately headed and neither of them can change God’s direction/plan.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Yes, it is God who decides, but what should the Germans have done when Hitler was about to take control? It seems today’s Americans do not care about liberty or dignity nowadays anymore. Sad. Yes, the things to come will come, but we must resist like the Dutch Resistance as long as we can for the glory of God and for protection of children. Americans are not stripped of all liberty yet. (Proverbs ch.24)

    • Guest

      He is seeking, Grace. Pray for him.

      • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

        Amen!!

      • Becky

        He’s seeking to win…nothing more.

        • ConCern

          And the gullible people can’t see that at all…
          Don’t be surprise to hear Bro. Trump has spoken in tongues…

        • Guest

          You don’t know him. Was he seeking to win 27 years ago when he flew a rabbi’s seriously ill 3 year old son in his private plane because the airlines wouldn’t take him? How about when he bought a club that was previously segregated, and fought (and won ) the very rich community of Palm Springs to open it up to minorities and Jews? Was he seeking to win when he gave $10,000.00 to Darnell Barton because the bus driver was the only one who stopped to talk (and subsequently rescued) a suicidal woman who was dangling from a bridge? There are so many more charitable works this man has done for DECADES that the public doesn’t know about. Was he running for office then?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Trump may not be antagonistic against Christianity like Hillary is, but he makes fun of Christian faith and has immoral businesses… America is lost if average Christians have to vote him… T T

          • Guest

            He does not make fun of the Christian faith. You don’t even know him. Why would you call yourself a Christian and then make up false accusations against someone?

            As far as “immoral businesses” go – you’re repeating Hillary Clinton and Obama talking points. Meanwhile, you supported cheating Ted Cruz, who solicited the DNC for funds according to wikileaks. Do you ever wonder why the liberal MSM and Democrats don’t go after Ted Cruz for scandals like the Ashley Madison leak, the DC Madame leak, and his alleged multiple affairs (which Amanda Carpenter’s sister-in-law confirmed?) It’s because he’s one of them.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Trump’s making fun of Christian faith is reported right here in this news! No one treated Mr. Cruz in the same standard of Trump or Hillary. Those two are unconditionally protected for some circus use. How can you trust anyone in America? And if American politicians can get away like this, who else on earth cannot? Mr. Cruz was pulled down because the establishment saw he was too orthodox to be elected. Evil calculation with no conviction for truth.

          • Guest

            a.) The story is falsely reported. I saw the entire exchange between Trump and the evangelicals. He did not mock Christianity or anyone.

            b.) The media has relentlessly and unjustly been attacking Trump, while leaving out Ted Cruz’s and Hillary’s many scandals. Google the picture of Cruz leaving Air Force One with Obama, Hillary, and Valerie Jarrett. That’s after he solicited funds from the DNC and just prior to him changing his RNC speech. Cruz IS establishment, and he is DNC establishment. Wake up! What kind of Christian has the kinds of scandals Lyin’ Ted has? Would a Christian let false prophet Mormon Glenn Beck lay hands on him and “prophesy” over him? Would a Christian lie about another person (like Dr. Ben Carson) dropping out of the race? There’s good reason why real Christians, like Mike Huckabee, can’t stand Ted Cruz.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Let’s get a bigger picture. Trump shows no indication that he is serious about Christianity and he owns immoral businesses. Mr. Cruz is a real Christian with flaws, but not Anti-God like Hillary or downright immoral like Trump. He at least kept his conscience and principles many times, doing what is right as a senate often by standing alone. Establishment didn’t like him because he was too genuine Christian and not-electable in Novermber. Let’s just trust in God. I’m sure He will send rescue to American Christians and their children.

          • Guest

            You keep repeating things that are not true.

            Trump is not saved yet. Of course he’s going to have flaws! But what you accuse him of is far less serious than the things Ted Cruz has done, yet Ted Cruz claims to be a Christian! What principles has Ted Cruz kept? Allegedly cheating on his wife? Google “Trump Adviser STEVE MILLER Drops Bomb on TED CRUZ: He Proposed Legislation to Double Muslim Immigration in America”. You should find the article on Gateway Pundit. You will see that Ted Cruz is just another Obama/Hillary Clinton.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Mr. Cruz would protect the borders; doubling legal immigration cannot be bad for America. Anything is better than Sodom’s reign for all American children. Because today’s Americans dishonor God’s name and disrespect the Christian founders, the land should go to anyone. No one loses. Godless people are the real losers on earth; the land belongs to God. USA needs Christian principles to live by.

          • Guest

            Look up the article I told you about. Cruz would not protect the border. Here’s a quote from the article:

            “Cruz also pushed to expand Muslim immigration into America. This is despite the fact that Obama has issued 68o,000 green cards to immigrants from Muslim countries in the last five years.

            The Cruz amendment would have doubled the number of Muslim immigrants to America to up to 1.35 million.”

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Mr. Cruz promised protection of borders. Trumps’ immoral businesses would hurt Americans more doubling the number of addicts. That’s worse than Muslim immigration. What is so bad about the Muslims’ immigration anyway? I think God is punishing the immoral secular nations with childlessness. Secular nations must repent of blasphemies instead of shunning the Muslims.

          • Guest

            You just keep repeating nonsense after it’s been proven false. I just showed you how Ted Cruz would NOT protect the borders, and how he wanted legislation that would bring in more Muslims and illegals. Look at his actual vote record, not what he says. The man’s a liberal liar.

            Muslims are KILLING Christians. That’s what’s so bad about Muslim mass migration. They’re not coming to immigrate, they are coming to conquer.

            Donald Trump wants to protect Americans. Ted Cruz, who wasn’t even born in the US, and who didn’t give up his Canadian citizenship until recently, wants to let anyone into the country.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Mr. Cruz desires to protect Americans and he will try that. The Muslim population is good for secular nations; everyone needs to hear the Gospel in free nations. Christians cannot stop Sodomy’s atrocities in secular nations. If Sodom is conquered by foreigners, it’s Sodomites’ own fault. Trump is only interested in self’s power and money.

          • Guest

            How is Ted Cruz going to protect Americans when he wants to allow unvetted Muslims in, Muslims who want Sharia law and who want to kill Christians? How is letting Muslims in, many who live off of welfare or take jobs from Americans, good for secular society or anyone? It’s not only “rich pervs” who are persecuting Christians – it’s Muslims and liberals! Trump is trying to protect America. He’s being selfless in running. He had a great life before running for President. He didn’t need the job.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            America’s real crisis is godlessness. Nothing else. Americans have everything they need; the land produces anything for you always and for-ever. USA needs a godly leader, not a merchant. The Muslims will respect Christians if women are not that nudist.

          • Guest

            God has worked through non-Christians before. Besides, you don’t know that Donald Trump won’t become a Christian. He’s certainly better than hypocritical lyin’ Ted Cruz.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Let’s pray for everyone. Let’s pray that Hillary’s evil plans would never come true.

          • Becky

            So, you’re his publicist now? You actually sound like Trump…he’s always mitigating his terrible comments, beliefs and behavior by proclaiming all of his good deeds (according to Trump, that is). Trump is wolf in sheep’s clothing. Clearly, he’s got you fooled. As for me, I’ll follow God Almighty through Christ.

          • Guest

            You’re not following God through Christ now. In fact, you’re doing the opposite. You are discouraging others from coming to Christ by your uppity, high handed attitude, which is exactly what the Pharisees tried to do.

          • Becky

            By telling the truth I’m discouraging others from coming to Christ?? You’ve got that wrong…I’ll fix that for you. I follow God Almighty through Christ. You, however, follow Trump. You’re waiting for Trump to save you from whatever is coming. That’s why you think it’s utterly important to vote this guy into office…he alone can fix it. Isn’t that what he proclaimed? If he wins, it’ll be according to God’s will. If hillary wins, it’ll be according to God’s will. Nothing, not even your vote, can change God’s will.

          • Guest

            What truth have you told? Where do you see that I put Trump ahead of Christ? I merely state that God is softening his heart, and you have a hissy fit. Why do you not want him to become born again?

          • Becky

            You’re a liar.

          • Guest

            There you go again. Why are you falsely accusing me?

    • Boommach

      I have no idea if Donald Trump is saved. You seem to believe you can make such pronouncements. The Bible tells me to work out MY salvation with fear and trembling. Given the One who’s deemed worthy of such, I don’t have the guts to make such an assertion; especially in public.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Romans ch.10. He is also unrepentant of his immoral sins that the Holy Bible told us to treat as a non-believer. Genuine repentance has visible fruit. He keeps mocking Christianity and I think he is just using the Christians for his own purpose. It’s surreal that any Christian Americans have to support him as a leader. I think he was chosen because he looked more winnable than Mr. Cruz against Hillary.

        • Guest

          He’s actually talked about regrets and wanting to make things right with God. He hasn’t mocked Christianity. He began crying when he thanked Christians for their support and said he was not worthy. He is coming under conviction. Please pray for him, Grace.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Yes, let’s pray for him. Please read the news article; he feels no necessity to repent in his life. He just wants to be elected.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            For our children’s sake, lets hope Hillary doesn’t win, if you don’t vote or don’t vote for Trump, you will be helping Hillary to win.

          • Becky

            Your children’s sake? You actually believe Trump is going to change what God Almighty has already told us will happen (the events that are to come and the end)? If so, then you must not believe what God has said. Regardless of who wins, God’s plan for this earth and its inhabitants (saved and lost) can be changed by no one. If Hillary wins, do you believe it won’t be according to God’s will?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Isn’t there any other way for America? Must everyone choose Evil A or Evil B? Isn’t there any good man for America? Very sad.

          • Boommach

            All elections are a choice of the lesser of 2 evils. Jesus is not on the ballot. Mrs Clinton is so appreciative of your support; such as it is. She is counting on you. If you have any reverence for our God given republic, you will disband your alliance with Mrs Clinton. We are a government of the people. Have the courage to make a choice.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I don’t support Hillary Clinton. I only said Trump is no Christian based on what is reported here.

          • Boommach

            Your words that started all this. You spoke these as an absolute with none of the mitigating contingencies you now assert:

            “He is a non-believer. Salvation is through faith in Jesus alone. ( Ephesians ch.2)”

            @grace kim kwon “I don’t support Hillary Clinton. I only said Trump is no Christian based on what is reported here.”

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Read the news article. Make observation. Some Trump supporters blaspheme the Christian faith in order to support him. It’s sick. America will NEVER be great again unless Americans stop pushing Sodomy in the world.

          • Boommach

            So now you’re maintaining that Trump’s salvation is contingent on his supporter’s salvation? The Bible as much as promises we Christians will be persecuted…if that’s what you’re trying to say….I’ve never heard of a faith being blasphemed. I have no idea what’s in store for our great country. All I know is many evil forces are working steadily against it and many who should be opposing that evil won’t. Some will proclaim in all caps how we will NEVER be great again. Why are you resigned to such evil, Grace?

            @gracekimkwon “Read the news article. Make observation. Some Trump supporters blaspheme the Christian faith in order to support him. It’s sick. America will NEVER be great again unless Americans stop pushing Sodomy in the world.”

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Trump is not saved according to the Holy Bible and this article. He refuses to confess Jesus and says the stuff only greedy merchants/politicians would to win voters. It’s so sad people should expect to be persecuted as a Christian in USA. What’s the meaning of the nation’s founding and freedom for? Should we lose the hard-earned dream freedom just like this? Today’s USA should not be great because the Western culture promotes and funds abortion and Sodomy in the world. It’s better for the global children if the Western culture stays weaker because it’s more horrible when the evil is mightier, although other regions still have many barbaric forms. Mankind needs Christianity, but not the West’s current moral chaos. Non-West’s slavery plus the West’s Sodomic inclination – may our God forbid such hellish evil to exist on earth. America will be great again only if the Americans become Christian-virtuous again.

          • Guest

            That isn’t true. He has since spoken about repentance. He broke down when meeting with evangelicals recently when he thanked them for their support. God is calling him, and the wicked and religious Pharisees want to stand in his way.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I disagree with you. According to what he said in this news article, Trump is just using the Christian leaders for him to get elected. Pharisees were better than Sadducees, always.

          • Guest

            a.) The article isn’t accurate.

            b.) Pharisees and Sadducees were both condemned.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            a) How do you know? You personally want Trump to be a good man AGAINST evidences.
            b) Unlike Sadducees, Jesus often talked to Pharisees and numerous Pharisees converted to Christianity later including Apostle Paul. It’s not good to attack the Pharisees in Sodom. Western hedonists and their mental slaves have no rights to attack any historic group because they are the worst case in human history. No group forced people to acknowledge the despicable same-sex “marriage” or watched the Holocaust of millions of unborn babies in silence. This generation is the worst of all groups that ever existed on earth.

          • Guest

            a.) No. I see the evidence that Trump is good. See my list of his charities, long before the Presidential run. He’s also been photographed by regular church goers on their cell phones for the past few years prior to running. He’s been seeking. He’s been contacting evangelists for advice and talks about the Bible for awhile now.

            b.) All sinners can repent, whether they be Pharisees, Sadducees, or tax collectors like Zacchaeus. Guess what? If a sinner doesn’t repent, it doesn’t matter what he called himself. He’s still going to hell. Same with the converted -once they convert, all things are made new, the old is done away with.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            a) Let’s hope and pray for the best, but if Trump betrays Christians later, please remember there has been plenty warnings beforehand. Is there any way for Americans to avoid Hillary’s reign other than voting for Trump?
            b) Amen.

          • Guest

            No one’s saying Trump is perfect or that a Presidency under him will be perfect, but he is not the monster the media is portraying him to be. There is no other option but to vote Trump. The Libertarians are godless and even more liberal than Hillary in some ways. The Green Party is a one issue party. A write-in campaign wouldn’t work because no other candidate has the popularity of Trump. So the only alternative is Hillary or Trump. Trump has promised to appoint good Supreme Court judges. If Hillary gets in and she appoints 4 judges, the country is lost for good. Trump is the only logical choice.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Trump must have something real good that media dislike him so badly and that he attacks all the villains openly exposing what they are doing. The entire show has been amazing, but I’m not sure how much they are talking seriously. It seems like just a huge comedy show. Can’t states get independence in peace if the central government acts so untrustworthy? What can make all the jokers serious enough about life and homeland? Just curious. Mankind needs Christian America, the good America…

          • Guest

            The MSM doesn’t like Trump because he’s not a liberal globalist. He really wants to fight a real war on drugs.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            That’s nice. I think Sodomic West should not dominate the world so much. The world needs Christian Americans for freedom and education and happiness; oppressive rich pervs are the last thing the suffering world needs.

        • Boommach

          Where is it in Romans that indicates Grace comes from the likes of Grace Kim Kwon? There are myriad vignettes of Donald Trump’s magnanimity and graciousness. What do you need to see from him before you would allow him passage through the gates of Heaven. Might i suggest you pray for him rather than condemning him.

          Romans 14:12-14 So then each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us not pass judgment on one another any longer, but rather decide never to put a stumbling block or hindrance in the way of a brother. I know and am persuaded in the Lord Jesus that nothing is unclean in itself, but it is unclean for anyone who thinks it unclean.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            It is this part in Romans ch.10. “…that if you confess with
            your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised
            Him from the dead, you will be saved. For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.” (Romans 10:9,10) Trump indicates he is no believer in the light of this. I think your way of saying is judgmental against me. Stop talking of “likes” when you don’t even show your real name. You guys are mere cowards. You likes say, “Don’t judge” and lead people astray and oppress people for opposing the culture’s immorality. The passage of Roman ch.14’s non-judgment is regarding food, not of morality. Jesus commanded to judge righteous judgment. (John ch.7)

          • Boommach

            I am indeed being judgmental of your presumptuous arrogance to pretend to make the your will that of the Lords. I find that to be preposterous and rather damning coming from one who confesses to be Christian. I would never make any judgement as to whether or not you’re saved. I am but a sinner and I’m sure you would not judge me to be as pure as yourself. Hopefully, you won’t condemn me to hell as you have Mr Trump. I cannot use my real name for personal reasons.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            But you must not attack people personally. Everyone has freedom to testify the truth and to express observations even if you don’t like those. If you are going to attack people personally, reveal your real name, whether you are Christian or not.

          • Boommach

            Grace, it’s a rebuke; not an attack. No one likes being rebuked. Calling it an attack is a diversion.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            No, you are being a coward. Do the “rebuke” with your real name. Don’t shame your own father.

          • Boommach

            The words come from me. I told you I cannot use my real name. I really need that protection. Diversion is all you have. I am not a coward and you know it. You cannot counter me with truth and so you disingenuously respond with diversions. intellectual honesty is difficult but is a virtue. m’dear. Not doing so is an absolute mark of cowardice. That’s just the way it is.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Who doesn’t need a protection? Self is too important to you. Be a man and stop stalking or excusing your own cowardice. If you are a woman, read the Holy Bible and write independent comments.

          • Boommach

            Do you believe everyone who uses a nom de guerre is a coward, Grace? As I said, you have nothing.. Truth mixed with lies are still damned lies. That is a favored tool of satan. Where did you pick it up, Grace?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Other don’t need to, but you single out and bully; therefore you need to reveal your real name if you want to live the way you do. Show your true American-ness.

          • Boommach

            Wow. You can’t answer my questions. You haven’t answered my question; therefor, you have to list your address and phone number. The laws of logic are written by the Lord. Why do you divert from such?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I told you to read the Holy Bible. According to even Romans ch.10 and Ephesians ch.2 alone, Trump shows no sign of salvation. No one has to listen to your rebuke because you bully and stay anonymous. You must realize that it is cowardice. Write independent comments instead of replying to mine.

          • Boommach

            I do read the Bible. I am not bullying. I am not a coward. Protecting my family is important to me and the Bible speaks of my duty to do so. I resent your diversion and the extrapolations you employ to chide me. I know your pride has been bruised and it’s becoming clear how jealously you protect it but you’re simply wrong to do so. You don’t want my real name so much as you want to shut me up. I am beginning to think you’re a paid troll for Mrs Clinton. Are you?

            Proverbs 15:32 (ESV)
            32 Whoever ignores instruction despises himself, but he who listens to reproof gains intelligence.

            I think you should see beyond your nose; despite how much you love yourself.

            As I’ve said, I don’t know if Trump is saved or not. I know I am a sinner and saved only by Christ. I know Donald Trump is a sinner. I also know he had done more magnanimous things in his life than I could muster. He has been blessed with much and he has been a blessing. That seems like pretty good stewardship; wouldn’t you agree? Who is the perfect Christian in your book, Grace?

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            If you claim to be Christian, you shouldn’t hate and attack fellow Christians personally online like this especially if you can’t even reveal your real name. What you are doing IS a cowardice. The Proverb verse also applies to you. Stop bullying people online. Just talk or write independent comments. I’m not being paid for writing comments. You modern Americans should stop thinking that greed for money alone moves people. Get rid of your filthy liberal education. Where has your noble Christian heritage gone? Remember your father and your grandfather. Trump owns dirty businesses such as strip clubs, and it’s beyond reasoning that any true Christians could vote for him just to stop Hillary. Is there any other way to choose a leader? So sad.

          • Boommach

            I do not hate you. I have not attacked you. I am not a coward. I am anything but a liberal/leftist. My comments are mine alone; completely independent. I did not assert that greed alone motivated people. I did not receive a filthy liberal education. I did not speak of my ’noble Christian heritage’. I have told you I am a sinner, I am not familiar with all of Trump’s business ventures. I only know he has done great things. He has employed people, built careers, and launched many great projects. Mrs Clinton has ruined people and no one can point to any act of kindness she has ever done. There are no vignettes of things she has done unless there is a camera and a choreographer. This election is not one of conservatives vs liberals. We are contending with the left and their intent is the demise of this republic. All you have done is to extrapolate nonsense out of thin air because of your distaste for the truth. I stand by my words. I don’t care for pharisaic attitudes. Rest assured Grace, I will never hold myself to be as holy as you do yourself. If you are the Christian you claim to be, you should stop lying.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Don’t make yourself the supreme importance. There should be some ways other than voting for Hillary or Trump.

          • Boommach

            Well Grace, There are two major candidates and about 2 months until the election. Governments are provided for by God. God has given us the greatest republic the world has ever know. I am sorry we don’t have a Grace qualified candidates but if you don’t oppose Mrs Clinton, you are supporting her and the evil left. Your choice. I am not of any supreme importance. That would be Christ.

            @grace “Don’t make yourself the supreme importance. There should be some ways other than voting for Hillary or Trump. “

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Some Christians choose not to choose any evil. Can’t America’s system changed so that a righteous man can be the president?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Others don’t need to

            Uhm, world goes crazy comes to mind and some other “Christians” who don’t use their real name. So why don’t you tell them to use their real names and not be cowards? You only attack those who you don’t agree with. And we are the bullies here? Right!

            You judge someone without knowing her/his story. But hey, some of you Christians do it all the time, so I’m not surprised.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Read his comments to see how he disgraces people maliciously and personally. Such men should reveal their real names if they want to “rebuke” anyone online. I want today’s American men to remember their fathers and behave like a man because they are actually disgracing their own fathers and no one else by bullying people. You have no idea what American fathers were like because you wouldn’t out find who they were, although they liberated your entire region from evil tyrants. You secular Westerners should remember your own legacy and your own fathers.

            Because you don’t, the land will go to foreign people and not to your descendants; and the history will record how the well-fed bored De-christianized Westerners pushed Sodomy like madmen and got self-destruct. The Western descendants will be happy that foreign forces occupied your land instead of domestic mad pervs. Stop being bored and be serious about life. The West has nothing good apart from Christianity; you only have selfishness and stupid nudism as your own. The West needs Christianity to be normal and not-crazy immoral. I write for your pitiful Christian forefathers. Please wake up and get some morality from Christianity.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            The only thing I read right now, is you judging people you don’t even know. You don’t know me, so don’t judge me. But like I stated before, some of you Christians love to judge people you don’t know, you have never met, so I’m really not surprised.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You secular Westerners are the same; you are completely knowable by the way you talk. (Psalms ch.14 and 139, John ch.3) You feel you are judged because you hate morality and Christians. We love you. You must repent of your sins and believe in Jesus to get saved. Jesus made everything including you and your horses. You should be utmost thankful to the Creator God instead of attacking the Christians in a Christian news site.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            The strange thing is, I only feel like that with Christians like you. Never with my friends and family who are Christians. But then again, you will judge them by claiming that they are not really Christians and again I will not be surprised if you do.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            True Christians take God at His Word. Why won’t you? What meaning is there in living out the destructive sinfulness AGAINST God’s will? None. The Western culture became hedonistic by misquoting the Holy Bible( “Do not judge”) and oppressing the sane morality. Read the entire ch. 5-7 in the Gospel of Matthew.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            And again, judging. You have no idea how I live my life.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You don’t believe in God and support abortion and Sodomy and attack Bible-believing Christians. That is foundationally wrong.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            So you believe some people shouldn’t have the same rights you and I have. Yes, I believe woman should be able to have control over their own body. If the life of the woman or baby is in danger she should be able to make that choice. If a woman is raped she should have that choice. Yes I believe homosexuals should be able to marry, you know like every hetero couple can. They have those rights, like every human being in the west. Too bad some people want to deny them those rights, like you.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Jolanda, you are wrong. No one has any rights over another’s life. Atheists are lamenting over the world’s over-population. How would you feel if they poison your region, land of mere commoners, by deeming your life unnecessary? The same thing. You are alive today only because the Church educated your mother that erasing you off is wrong. Fear God. Live and let other live as much as possible.

            People usually preserve mother’s physical life if the choice is one or the other, but such case is extremely rare and some mothers choose to die to let the babies live anyway. Children conceived by rape should never be killed and can be taken into adoption. No woman should murder her babies. Homosexual union is not marriage but living in sin; homosexuals would do whatever they would anyway, but no one on earth should be forced to treat it as marriage because it is not marriage. Falsehood must not be pushed by anyone in any way.

            The West got its usual Nazism against mankind out of humanism again; what can fix you guys? This century’s Westerners are completely confused by applying racial equality on sexual depravity. You guys had too many drinking parties that are bad to both brain and character on a planet of suffering humanity. I wish you guys will wake up and get rid of the sick form of racism as soon as possible. It was one thing to endure powerful but average racists, but quite another to endure the bored rich pervs’ tyranny that is destructive to all children. It is a disgrace as a human being( not just as a Christian) to submit to Western Sodomites.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            So you want women today being the same as in your bible? In the kitchen with ten kids. You want rapevictim getting the kid, be depressed and misserable? Maybe for you and your ilk it may not be marriage for the rest of us it is. And yes there is a overpopulation, but also poverty, look at the African countries. Couples with a lot of kids but no means to take care of them. But hey you are only interested in women getting kids instead of making sure no more children are born, be it by birth control or abortion.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Women can pursue personal dreams without killing children. Christian West made it possible. If women dress up and behave properly, rape will happen less. With many women showing skin and behaving like prostitutes, more men became dangerous to women and children. Godless secularism makes women behave like prostitutes. Bible literacy can make people work hard with honesty therefore bring true prosperity. Everyone can work hard and feed themselves. Birth control is okay if it does not involve destruction of human life, but abortion is murder. No murder should be legal.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            So having rights are good as long as those are rights you and your ilk agree with? That is called discrimination. Good thing we have seperation of church and state. Excuse me, being raped has nothing to do with how a woman dresses, Cologne in Germany comes to mind. So you actually blaiming women for getting raped? How Christian of you. So you rather have women getting abortion illegal and risk their lives instead of going to a clinic where they can do it without any risk? Women have the right to decide over their own body, homosexuals have the right to marry, it’s law now, deal with it.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Jolanda, every culture contains crimes. All cultures need fix by the Christian Church to be humane and civil. At least you must hear the calls for repentance as long as you live so you could repent and get a life. It is wrong of the Western culture to silence the voice of the true Christians that calls for purity and life. The West discriminated the colored people before, now the victims are unborn children and truth-speaking Christians. The switch of victim groups happened almost simultaneously. Yes, women’s skin-showing and drinking and other addictions increase rape crimes. Nowadays, men run after children, seeing no virgin women in the society.

            Wayward women contributed to the danger level of the society, not just lawless men. Telling facts is a Christian thing. Women would get abortion anyway if that’s what they really wants, but the society must never encourage or condone the murder. The unborn babies are not a part of woman’s body; they are distinct human beings. Homosexuals’ union is not marriage. Sinners have no rights to make others call their sins something else. The Western laws that push falsehood and break Christrian conscience are false. The Holy Bible alone is right. Mankind has no lawfulness apart from the Holy Bible.

          • Boommach

            I do read the Bible. I am not bullying. I am not a coward. Protecting my family is important to me and the Bible speaks of my duty to do so. I resent your diversion and the extrapolations you employ to chide me. I know your pride has been bruised and it’s becoming clear how jealously you protect it but you’re simply wrong to do so. You don’t want my real name so much as you want to shut me up. I am beginning to think you’re a paid troll for Mrs Clinton. Are you?

            Proverbs 15:32 (ESV)
            32 Whoever ignores instruction despises himself, but he who listens to reproof gains intelligence.

            I think you should see beyond your nose; despite how much you love yourself.

            As I’ve said, I don’t know if Trump is saved or not. I know I am a sinner and saved only by Christ. I know Donald Trump is a sinner. I also know he had done more magnanimous things in his life than I could muster. He has been blessed with much and he has been a blessing. That seems like pretty good stewardship; wouldn’t you agree?

          • Becky

            You’re misusing those scriptures. Firstly, those scriptures are concerning believers only. Secondly, those scriptures are about foods and fasting. In fact, the entire chapter is about food.

  • The Skeptical Chymist

    Trump demonstrates daily that he is ignorant of Christianity.

    • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

      I would hate to think that you claim to be a christian. Seek God’s UNDERSTANDING, not your own understanding.

      • The Skeptical Chymist

        I don’t claim to be a Christian. I was raised as a Christian, and there is a great deal about Christianity that I admire. Culturally, I am a Christian, but I haven’t been a believer for about 50 years. But even I know that Trump’s inability to recognize his own errors, or to admit that he could be wrong, or that he has done wrong in his life and that he needs forgiveness, is the exact opposite of what Christianity is all about. If he were in the crowd when Jesus said “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone,” he would have said, “OK, sure.”

        • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

          So if you claim that your not a christian, why are you attacking Trump’s christianity?

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            Having been raised in Christianity, I think I know enough of its core tenets to recognize that Trump displays no evidence that he adheres to them. No one who is a Christian would claim that he doesn’t need to seek forgiveness and to repent of his sins. The humility to recognize that one has done wrong to other people and to ask for forgiveness is one of the aspects of Christianity that is most appealing about the religion. I don’t see any evidence that Trump recognizes his flaws as a human being, or that he even recognizes when he does wrong to other people.

          • Guest

            You can’t be “raised in Christianity”. Christ has no grandchildren, only children.

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            Whatever…

          • Guest

            Don’t claim you want to use Scripture and then have a hissy fit when it proves you wrong. You must be born again. That includes you.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Amen!! I can’t help to think that some are walking the path of a hypocrite!! They need to seek God’s truth and God’s Word and open up their Bibles and look in the mirror themselves. I truly believe that Trump is a good man and the right one for job!! But we know that God will be the one who elects not us, not saying we should not vote, because I’m thankful for that freedom!!

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            I’m serious now. Do you really look at Trump and see a good man? I can understand if you hate Hillary so much that you support Trump, but to look at him and say he’s a good man? Really?

          • Guest

            Yeah, all that charity he does – what a mean man! /sarc

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            Charity, like welching on the last payments to his contractors? Or claiming to raise millions for vets, but only donating the money when the reporters call him on it? Oh yeah, I forgot – all those donations to charity are there for all to see – they’re on his taxes! (Oh, wait,…)

          • Guest

            The contractors story isn’t true. Trump did hold back payment on a job when it wasn’t done properly. Any sane person would do the same. As far as him only donating money when the press called him out on it, also untrue. It takes time to vet charities, and he had already given away a considerable amount of the money by the time the press woke up to it. Re. Trump not releasing his taxes, he’d be a fool to do it before the audit. The MSM would have their lawyers going over it, making trouble for him. He does plenty of charity, certainly more than HilBilly who use their charity to pay themselves!

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            Really? That’s all you got? You’ve bought into Trump’s lies, hook, line, and sinker. You know he lost a lawsuit and had to pay damages to a contractor whom he welched on, don’t you? Ah well… Why don’t you send him another donation? That will be money well spent (more like more money down the drain).

          • Guest

            I’ve supplied you with facts. You choose not to see them. Look at you – you’ve got one of the most incoherent, uneducated persons here agreeing with you (Concern troll). How sorry are you?

            All businesses get hit with lawsuits. Happens all the time. If you were a big business owner, you would know that. Trump handles it all with aplomb, and I repeat, he does a YUGE amount of charity work. Just last night, he was half an hour late for his rally (he’s typically very punctual) because Make A Wish asked him to meet a teenager who asked for Trump as his wish. He gave the kid half an hour, then let him and his family come on stage at the rally. He then let him stay in the wings for the night, and spent more time with the family afterwards. He does this kind of thing ALL THE TIME.

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            Gotta go. Have a great evening.

          • Guest

            You have a great evening, too, Skep.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            You didn’t answer my question… How can you use a SWORD when you don’t claim to hold one? The SWORD being the WORD of ALMIGHTY God?

          • ConCern

            Why did you and many Evangelicals on this site attack Obama? How absurd. How typical; Trump is to be treated like a little kid with white gloves on. Or else your god will punish you if you attack Trump?

    • Guest

      You demonstrate that all the time.

  • ConCern

    The sad part of this Comment, is too many Re4publican Evangelical really believe it and would vote for Trump so that he actually goes to heaven.,
    Many Evangelicals have equated the GOP to God almighty and Conservatism as Jesus Christ.

    • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

      smh… The sad part about it, you might claim to be christian? What happened to OVERLOOKING PEOPLE for GOOD and not EVIL? What happened to the part about that we are ELECTING a man to PROTECT the U.S. Consititution not to preach in a church!! Wake up!! You’ve been watching too much cable TV.

      • Guest

        Concern is a lib who voted Obama. Typically, most people just step over her posts.

        • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

          Ohh that explains alot… but I hate when Trump is judged foolishly. We only have 2 options… No comparison to Hillary.

          • Guest

            Exactly. Funny how so many professing Christians are quick to believe the same media that lies about Israel and Christians all the time.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Exactly right!! Why do I get the feeling God sent an angel at the right time? Keep myself out of trouble!!! I got a big mouth!! I can’t stand christians trying to justify why we should judge Trump and not vote for him, makes me concerned for some people.

          • Guest

            Unfortunately, a lot of people don’t have discernment. If Hillary gets in, the US will fare worse than even under Obama.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Exactly right!! Takes God to give us the discernment, we are surely blessed. Very thankful unto God for that!

          • Guest

            Exactly! Where would we be without Him!

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Amen!!

          • ConCern

            And America will continue to be Blessed under a President Hillary. Praise God people like you and Sis, Guest don’t control the opening of the windows of heavens to pour down Blessings. PTL.

          • Guest

            You should hope God would bless you with brains. Your posts are barely coherent!

          • ConCern

            Can’t resist me eh !

          • Guest

            You can’t resist lying.

          • ConCern

            But it will be a hard task to copy and paste those lies right?
            BTW, did you finish cleaning your house? you seems to have too much time on your hands.

          • Guest

            “You seems” – can’t make this stuff up. 🙂

          • ConCern

            What is “worst under Obama” is better than what was under GW Bush and the Republicans. A fact not heard on Fox.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Con.. your comment about GW Bush… I agree with you… There is ALOT of corrupted REPUBLICANS & DEMOCRATS that work together, it’s called “The establishment” they don’t want their little play houses torn down… The LAST good president that America had was Ronald Reagan. I love the pictures were he kissed the US Flag, that lets you know how much he loved America… Ironically there is an awesome picture of Trump cuddling the US Flag… you should search for it. It may make you smile! 🙂

          • ConCern

            I don’t have a problem with the “establishment” , in real life , one will have to work with and within the said “establishment” to get things done. It is call building consensus with the compromise to benefit America, NOT self or party interest.
            Trump have proven that he is NOT the guy to tear down the ” establishment ” he is not better and too ignorant , lacking the discipline to control his tongue , and the temperament to be in a position to make life and death decisions.
            His divisive rhetoric and sarcastic clown show is good for SNL , not the Presidency.

          • Guest

            Worse, not worst. The economy, unemployment, race relations, foreign relations, you name it. And who’s talking about Fox? Try to stay on topic.

      • ConCern

        “What happened to OVERLOOKING PEOPLE for GOOD and not EVIL?” You may want to tell that to Charisma, the Republicans and Guest, when it comes to Obama. They see pure evil & horns in his head. Pathetic ! but true.
        “Wake up”? Many Republicans have woken up and have regrets about Trump. They are publicly calling for his demise.
        I guess you are watching too much Fox and listening too much Conservative talk host and drinking too much Trump kool aid to see clearly and rationally.

        • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

          Many republicans are in bed with Obama… You are the one that needs to stop watching Fox, CNN, ABC, NBC and research “The Establishment” The establishment wanted to give you CRUZ & HILLARY, so either one would be on the same TEAM… but the “WE THE PEOPLE” voted for Trump and now they are in panic mode, because their playhouses are going to be torn down very soon, Hillary can not win in a fair election and the corrupted republicans know it. (Ran by George Soros)

          • Guest

            Let me know if you need any of Concern’s posts translated for you. She’s barely coherent! She also lies badly. She repeatedly claimed to be Canadian and at the same time claimed to have voted for Obama. Not too bright, is she? 🙂

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Sadly that makes me think of what Hillary would say!!!! lol

          • Guest

            Read her last post and see how incoherent she is – sounds like she might be suffering from the same brain injury as Hillary, too! 🙂

          • ConCern

            So who do you think put Obama to be President? Wasn’t it “WE THE PEOPLE”?…Look you are an emotional irrational voter. Slow down , learn to develop an objective mindset, detach from party affiliation, and then you will see clearly to make the right choice for the Country.
            “Hillary can not win in a fair election and the corrupted republicans know it. (Ran by George Soros)” This is NONSENSE. You are proving my point about your ability to think rationally.

  • jael2

    Jesus said:” My sheep know My voice, and a stranger they will not follow”. John chapter 10
    Trump is very much a stranger. He is estranged from God, His Word, and His ways. Those who believe Trump is the “savior” of America, will be sadly disappointed.

    • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

      To think that christians believe that Trump is the REAL Savior lets us know your intelligence. The words that come out of a man defile a man.

      Matthew 21:31
      Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

  • Becky

    Jesting? No, this isn’t jesting…this is who he is and probably who he’ll remain. This so-called “baby Christian” hasn’t grown at all. Concerning Christianity, he speaks like a false teacher and his “Christian” followers are allowing him to do so.

    • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

      Matthew 21:31
      Whether of them twain did the will of his father? They say unto him, The first. Jesus saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That the publicans and the harlots go into the kingdom of God before you.

      • Becky

        Sadly, his faithful supporters are more interested in making sure that he wins than the will of the Father.

        • Guest

          How do you know what the will of the Father is? You sound just like the religious and political hypocrites in Jeremiahs’ day, who didn’t believe God wanted Nebuchadnezzar to rule over them. Look how that turned out.

          • Becky

            You’re missing the point. Christians should be satisfied with whatever God wills. Whether it’s Trump or Hillary, God will choose who the leader will be. If Trump wins, will it be according to God’s will? Yes. If Hillary wins, will it be according to God’s will? Yes. Therefore, why are Christians fighting to make certain that Trump wins? Don’t they trust God’s will? Do they think God needs help in deciding who should win? Will they think God made a mistake if Hillary wins? Elections always reveal much about “Christians”…like their lack of trust in God.

          • Guest

            I’ve never said Christians should be dissatisfied with God’s will, and that includes God’s will when he puts a Nebuchadnezzar in place, or when He gives people a choice and they make a bad one, so must face the consequences, like when they wanted a king and got Saul.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Becky… we are not talking about rocket science.. you either vote for TRUMP or HILLARY… if you don’t vote, then you are saying its ok for HILLARY to win… besides, your not ORDAINING a minister in your church, your ELECTING a president to PROTECT your FREEDOM to worship in your church… Wake up!! You sound like a sore loser Cruz supporter that is holding on to a grudge that Americans chose Trump to be their candidate… Let’s stop the HATE, DIVISION, and UNITE behind Trump, there is no comparison between him and Hillary.

          • Becky

            I don’t support any candidates, ever. This world and its earthly government belongs to Satan. You certainly don’t trust in God’s will, else you’d know that whoever wins it’s according to his will. Someone who speaks as you do is the cause of “HATE, DIVISION”.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            It’s sad to see Pharisees of self-righteous over Trump.. That really disturbs me………………

  • Guest

    Trump wasn’t joking. He has been seeking for some time now. He thinks he needs to have a works based method to atone for his past sins. Christians should be praying for him and witnessing to him instead of misrepresenting him. He’s a whole lot better than Hillary, and his heart is being softened by God.

    • The Skeptical Chymist

      “His heart is being softened by God.” Sorry, I see no evidence that his heart is being softened by anyone.

      • Guest

        Yeah, but you’re not a Christian and don’t have spiritual discernment. You’ve also not seen his rallies or heard all his interviews. You’re just buying into what the MSM is selling.

        • The Skeptical Chymist

          You’re right – I haven’t been to his rallies or heard all his interviews. I watched several of the primary debates, and I’ve seen enough to know what I think of him. I can’t stomach any more. He’s a schoolyard bully, and I certainly have enough “discernment” to see that. Sorry that you don’t.

          • Guest

            You cannot know the facts unless you’ve examined them. You’ve merely had a knee jerk reaction because you’re a Hillary supporter all along, and you never were going to support Donald Trump.

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            You’re right. I would never in a million years consider supporting Donald Trump. I’ve known big blowhards like him ever since elementary school, and I’d never vote for one. The ones who puff out their chests and shout about how great they are. Too bad – he’s going to lose the election, badly. And his poor widdle ego is going to be so hurt when he loses to a girl! Poor baby!

          • Guest

            Your posts reveal more about you than about him. It appears you are very insecure about your own weakness and lack of success, so you hate anyone smarter, richer, and more successful. If Trump loses, he returns to his very nice private life. If he wins, America will be greater and better for it.

          • The Skeptical Chymist

            I’ll grant you that Trump is richer than me. I won’t grant that he is smarter or more successful. I’m pretty smart (PhD, research scientist) and successful (married for more than 30 years to the same wife, three successful children, sufficient money for financial freedom). There’s not much I want out of life that I don’t already have. Trump will never have my respect, no matter how desperately he wants it. He’s a grifter, a con artist, and you’ve been conned.

          • Guest

            You are in agreement with an incoherent, uneducated woman who trolls here (Concern), so how smart could you be? I can name imams who have been married longer than you have – so what does that mean? Absolutely nothing. I’m glad you’re content with your life, but if you were really that happy, you wouldn’t feel the need to dishonestly belittle a man with the kind of success that you could only dream of.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Luke 18:9-14
            9 And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and despised others:
            10 Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican.
            11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican.
            12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess.
            13 And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner.
            14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

          • ConCern

            Many Elected Republicans and 5 star Generals aren’t supporting Trump either. They think Trump is temperamentally unfit to hold nuclear codes and very arrogant to think he knows more about ISIS than they…But not you. Why? because you are delusional , filled with a “Visceral irrational hatred of Obama” and too blind to see that fact.

          • Guest

            You are incorrect. Trump has all sorts of support, including support from Democrats. The MSM just won’t report it.

            You have to stop cutting-and-pasting your comments from news articles and pretending they are your own. Just one more dishonest thing you do.

          • ConCern

            “You are incorrect. ” Incorrect about what? that many Republicans and 5 star Generals aren’t supporting Trump? How ridiculous .
            good bye.
            Just one free advise, learn to be Objective and a little less emotion in your posting.

          • Guest

            “Just one free advise” – learn to spell and perhaps people will take your more seriously. 🙂

          • ConCern

            I did say good bye; but this is for the other reader, you are criticizing by spelling, but won’t copy and paste what you are talking about.
            However, this is your words, quote,”learn to spell and perhaps people will take your more seriously. :)” What’s wrong with this , Oh English Professor?
            Well, ” Your” is the wrong pronoun, it should be “You”…so that it is proper English to write, { learn to spell and perhaps people will take *YOU* more seriously. 🙂 NOT YOUR…that’s bad grammar.

          • Guest

            I knew you wouldn’t keep your “good-bye” and really leave, because you are a known liar. Now be gone.

          • Becky

            I’m not a Hillary supporter (I don’t support either), but I can tell you, according to the bible, Trump is not Christ-like…at…all.

          • Guest

            Did you read me claiming him to be Christ-like? I said that he was seeking. What were you like before you were saved? Now look at who you have agreeing with you on your views – a known liar who voted for Obama, and an atheist. What camp does that put you in, Becky?

          • Becky

            Christ-like means Christian, so either Trump is or isn’t a Christian…there’s no middle ground. Thus far, he’s proven himself not to be Christian. I’m following what God Almighty through Christ has said about knowing people by their fruits. You should try that. Btw, I’m in not in any camp, I belong to Christ.

          • Guest

            I never said Trump was a Christian. Please read my posts prior to commenting on them and you’ll save us both a great deal of time. I said he is seeking God and his heart is being softened.

            You sound like those who thought they’d one-up other Christians by saying, “I am of Cephas, I am of Paul, I am of Christ”. Paul said even those who did the “I am of Christ” claim were causing division.

          • Becky

            Follow your own advice…I didn’t say you said he was a Christian. I pointed out that he wasn’t Christ-like.

          • Guest

            No one is disputing that. You seem confused over both your posts and mine.

      • ConCern

        It’s funny how many saw Canadian Cruz as the anointed one who speaks in tongues , but now that they were proven wrong and were made to look like silly little fools, they are now saying Trump is the chosen one of their god to save America from Obama. How Sick can these people get. I guess Trump will soon talk in tongues, if he begins to lose their vote.

        • Guest

          And then there’s you – the fool who thought she could get away with lying she was Canadian, and who stupidly voted for Obama twice (that is, if you were able to figure out how to work the ballot. You were probably lying about voting, too.)

          • ConCern

            Real Sick….

          • Guest

            Indeed you are. The Bible says that liars can’t enter the kingdom of heaven.

      • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

        You can’t see Trump’s heart, only God can see that. Takes God’s power to see a person’s heart.

        • rightleft

          Then how do you know it’s been softened?

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            You and me don’t know unless God allows us to see His workmanship. Nobody knows the mind of God.

          • ConCern

            Then base on Trump’s actions and rhetoric his heart is still one of stones. No wonder Dr, Dobson has back track his idea that Trump is saved.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Con… Just curious… was you supporting Cruz?

          • Guest

            She’s supporting Hillary. She voted Obama.

          • ConCern

            Be careful with your English Grammar. Guest will not understand unless it is impeccable English, which she does not write.
            However, No I was not supporting Cruz. Canadian Cruz is NOT a NBC of America and that makes him ineligible to be President of the USA.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            There is only 1 kind of English to me… it’s called Redneck Hillbilly… if you don’t know it, then I feel sorry for you. Besides I’m not a English teacher and don’t claim to be one. It sure beats having to learn Arabic as Hillary will probably be teaching in our schools if she is elected, thanks to her generous Arabic friends in the muslim nations. It’s good to see you wasn’t a Cruz supporter, most of them are holding on to the grudge that their hero was beaten, even though he was part of the corrupted and rigged system as Hillary.

          • ConCern

            “There is only 1 kind of English to me… it’s called Redneck Hillbilly… ” Maybe you should direct that comment to your friend Guest. She seems to make a point of criticizing people’s English when she is no better. That’s call Hypocrisy…
            “…I’m not a English teacher and don’t claim to be one.” Neither am I …but you can tell your friend Guest that her flawed understanding and inability to reason logically is not a matter of impeccable English spelling and grammar. None of that will help her in that area of debate .

          • Guest

            Concern supports Hillary. She voted for Obama.

    • Becky

      His heart is being softened? If I didn’t know the scriptures and what the word of God says about who his people are, then I’d agree with you. However, I do know the scriptures. Trump is a man that is taking advantage of the desperation and fear of those who are losing hope and faith in God Almighty through Christ…and Trump knows it. He knows that they’re looking to him to save them from what he claims might be. Nothing or no one can change a thing of what is to come. Whether it’s Trump or Hillary, God’s will be done.

      • Guest

        You don’t know this. You are repeating the talking points of the godless DNC and CNN. You are repeating what Hillary Clinton wants you to think. The man has quietly been attending church and reading the Bible for years prior to running for office. He’s been seeking God and the ungodly and the religious hypocrites are standing in his way. You should be praying for him instead of judging him.

        • Becky

          I know who Trump is by his words and actions. He’s for homosexuality, he’s for abortion, he hates, he curses…he’s anything but a Christian. If you want to support a known liar (Trump), a person that has every intention of committing grave sins against God (Trump), then that’s on you. Trump is nothing but a wolf in sheep’s clothing. You’d know that if you knew God’s word.

          • Guest

            You sound just like the Pharisee who said, “They answered and said unto him, Art thou also of Galilee? Search, and look: for out of Galilee ariseth no prophet.” (John 7:52). They thought they knew the Scriptures so well that they condemned those who actually knew it better. In other words, through attempting to show their superior knowledge, they showed their ignorance.

            And again, “Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. And the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote upon his breast, saying, God be merciful to me a sinner. I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased; and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.” (Luke 18:10-14).

            By the way, the same things you accuse Donald Trump of, Ted Cruz has done worse. Is he not a Christian in your eyes, too?

          • Becky

            Now I understand why you’re a Trump follower. All of the candidates were/are working against God.

          • Guest

            So now you’re saying I’m working against God because I’ve said that God is softening God’s heart? Becky, that’s disturbing. I hope you don’t discourage others from seeking Christ. No one comes to Christ perfect. They come as sinners needing perfection.

          • Becky

            You’ve twisted my words. Won’t work with me. If you want to play word games, move on. I’m not interested.

          • Guest

            I’ve repeated your words. Perhaps you should check your own posts. You might want to clarify. My only claim has been that God is softening Donald Trump’s heart. Other Christians who have met with him state the same thing.

          • Becky

            That’s a lie. You’re not repeating my words.

          • Guest

            I’ve not lied, Becky, and for you to accuse me of such puts you in the category of Satan who falsely accuses the brethren before God.

            My entire point is that God is softening Donald Trump’s heart, and to that, you’ve gone berserk, and falsely accused me of all kinds of things. Why do you get so upset at the thought that God would soften a sinner’s heart? He had to have softened your heart when you were yet in sin. I know He did mine.

          • Becky

            Yes, you’re a liar. You twist my words and then claim that you’re repeating what I posted?? All you have to do is read my post and then read your lie. The evidence is there.

          • Guest

            Becky, I doubt you even know what you have posted yourself. Have a good evening, Becky. I hope you find peace.

          • Becky

            You’re not my brethren. I follow God Almighty through Christ, alone. I don’t know who you follow.

          • Guest

            Listen to what you’re saying, Becky. It’s so eerie how much you are copying the Pharisees whom Jesus condemned:

            “They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham’s children, ye would do the works of Abraham. But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.”

            John 8: 39-41

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Becky.. just curious, be honest… was you supporting Cruz?

  • Boommach

    I hope you become a good president Mr Trump but, that will not lead to salvation.

    • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

      Only salvation there is by the works of Jesus Christ at Calvary.

      • TruePatriot

        Trump thinks Jesus is a joke?

        • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

          Send me the video clip? I have to hear that and not from CNN, ABC, NBC, or CBS news either.

        • Guest

          He never said that. He’s been asking questions about how to be saved, etc. He’s been attending church for awhile now.

        • Boommach

          On what do you base your assertion?

    • TruePatriot

      Jest??? it did not seem like a jest

  • https://disqus.com/home/channel/fakethoughtsandprayers/ Chip01

    If Hillary wins, isn’t that Gods will?

    • Guest

      God’s judgment.

      • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

        Yep… If Hillary wins… I believe the great tribulation period begins.

        • ConCern

          You guys are crazy…you guys said the same about Obama. What’s wrong with you people?

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Con… “YOU GUYS” did you vote for him?

          • ConCern

            Ask Guest, she seems to know a lot about me.

        • Guest

          The US will certainly face judgment if Hillary gets into office. I tremble to think what that will look like. Did you ever read Secret Service Gary Aldrich’s book, “Unlimited Access”? The woman hasn’t changed.

    • ConCern

      Yes . It is God’s will. He is still in control, regardless of what self righteous evangelicals ( who Hate Obama) thinks.

  • Tangent002

    Trump seems tone-deaf on Evangelical theology.

  • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

    The question isn’t if Trump is a christian or not, its christians that needs to question themselves are they self-righteous like a Pharisee or not? We all deserve HELL FIRE, none of us deserve heaven. So it really bothers me when someone says that Trump isn’t a christian and then they claim to be a christian… That is like being a hypocrite and I think that is one thing that really kindled Jesus Christ’s anger as we all know… So we better be very CAREFUL what we say about Trump. Pray for him, pray for his family and pray for Mike Pence family, they are a loving christian family that needs our support.

    • ConCern

      “So it really bothers me when someone says that Trump isn’t a christian and then they claim to be a christian… ” Did it bother you when they say the same about Obama? This is a test of your hypocrisy.? If the answer is yes, can you provide a link so I can read your comments?

      • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

        Con… I couldn’t stand Obama mocking God’s Word when he was a senator and I still can’t stand that man. God blessed me to see what kind of man he was in 2007-08. Youtube: Obama mocks God if you haven’t seen that yet.

        • Guest

          Concern favors Muslims over Christians.

        • ConCern

          No I’ve not seen it. But it is irrelevant to me . I do not look to Obama for anything spiritual. I Look to Jesus Christ for that…
          It is quite tell that you are willing to over look Trump’s failures but not Obama’s. Obama and Trump are not Pastors in Chief….Isn’t that a problem in credibility?
          Having said that, Obama is NOT perfect but he is a politician just like Trump and others and has proven to be better at it, and would beat them all again if allowed to run again ; he isn’t perfect, but please tell me who is?

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Did you say that Trump is a politician? Trump is a business man and only been in politics for 12 months, not like Obama for around 12 years and only thing Barry Sortoro have done is destroyed nations & jobs and lied about everything except put coal mining industry out of business.

          • ConCern

            “..Trump is a business man and only been in politics for 12 months,..” He is a business man turn politician; just like Dr. Carson a medical Doctor , now a politician. Both are lousy politicians , but that doesn’t mean they are not politicians. They chose to enter the ring…
            Before Trump entered the ring he said, quote, “Dems are better at the economy and the debt by the numbers.” Now that he is a politician he is talking junk for a crazy base to applaud.
            From one’s perspective , they all talk junk, the trick is to get the majority of Americans to buy your junk. Obama has demonstrated that he is much better at that game , he beat all the jokers the GOP had to offer. And would beat them again if allowed to enter the ring a 3rd time…

  • Robert

    I think trump would be a good choise for a christian to vote for because I think he would not hamper christians telling other people about Jesus. Freedom to tell others about Jesus is the most important freedom of any.. If a person thinks the same about.hillary honestly than she would also be a good choise for that person to vote for.

  • Chrissy Vee

    Along with pic it, was kind of naively cute. Especially having seen a glimpse at his compassionate side. I pray this whole experience leads him to the cross.

  • Gena B

    scary

  • Mark_Trail

    Galatians 5, 25-26 and 6, 1-10. 25 If we live by the Spirit, by the Spirit let us also walk. 26 Let us not become vainglorious, provoking one another, envying one another. 1 Brethren, even if a man be overtaken in any trespass, ye who are spiritual, restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness; looking to thyself, lest thou also be tempted. 2 Bear ye one another’s burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. 3 For if a man thinketh himself to be something when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself. …

    6 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. 2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. 3 If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves. 4 Each one should test their own actions. Then they can take pride in themselves alone, without comparing themselves to someone else, 5 for each one should carry their own load. 6 Nevertheless, the one who receives instruction in the word should share all good things with their instructor.

    7 Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. A man reaps what he sows. 8 Whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life. 9 Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. 10 Therefore, as we have opportunity, let us do good to all people, especially to those who belong to the family of believers.