Catholic School Sued for $1 Million for Prohibiting Student From Bringing Homosexual Date to Dance

sanderson-compressedMEMPHIS, Tenn. — A Roman Catholic high school in Tennessee has been sued for $1 million after it prohibited a homosexual student from bringing a boy as his date to the school dance.

According to reports, last September, all-male Christian Brothers High School (CBHS) student Lance Sanderson asked for permission to bring a male student from another school as his homecoming date.

His request was denied, but he was told it was for “logistical reasons” as the student was from another school. CBHS does not allow boys from other schools to attend the homecoming dance.

“CBHS students may attend the dance by themselves, with other CBHS students, or with a girl from another school. For logistical reasons, boys from other schools may not attend,” its policy reads.

Sanderson had come out to Principal Chris Fay in 2012, and alleges in his lawsuit that Fay “acted as if he were ashamed, embarrassed and disapproving of” Sanderson’s homosexuality.

Following the denial, Sanderson posted about the matter on Facebook and was suspended a week after going public on the issue, which generated media attention. He also launched a petition on Change.org.

“When I first started to float the idea of bringing a same-sex date to homecoming, I was told that my school doesn’t discriminate by a school official,” he wrote. “But when that school official left over the summer, I was met with harsh opposition by my school.”

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“One administrator told me that even though some people interpreted Pope Francis’s teachings on the issue as meaning they should support same-sex couples, these people are ‘not the authority to which Christian Brothers High School is accountable,'” the petition outlined.

Sanderson’s lawsuit states that his parents met with officials after being suspended, but “[t]here was no discussion nor option for Lance to return to CBHS. It was made clear to the [Sandersons] that Lance was not allowed to return to CBHS.”

While Sanderson did indeed return to school, he said that students called him derogatory names, so he decided to complete his schooling at home.

“Everyone thought I had been expelled,” he told NBC. “It was pretty clear that I wasn’t welcome on campus … I was sure it wasn’t going to be good for me to be there for the rest of the year.”

Sanderson went on to receive his diploma and now attends college, but is suing for $1 million over “severe injuries and damages which include, but are not limited to disability, past and future emotional distress, past and future medical expenses, and personal care services, and these damages are either permanent or continuing…”

His parents also allege breach of contract as they paid for him to attend CBHS in his senior year. They state that the school “failed to comply with the terms of the agreement by failing to provide Lance with an education during his senior year and failed to allow him to attend school during the majority of his senior year.”

“As a private school, CBHS held itself out to be nondiscriminatory with regard to sexual orientation,” Sanderson’s attorney told reporters. “In our eyes, it seems very clear those were hollow words … They were not interested in treating [Lance] the same as other students.”

CBHS officials have not yet commented on the lawsuit.


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  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Christianity and sexual immorality (including homosexuality) are incompatible to each other. The Holy Bible condemns homosexuality. Christians and Christian institutions must never be placed in trouble for keeping the Christian teaching as it is. The Western secularism is making it a people’s duty to endorse chaotic immorality. Immorality is not skin colors; it has no equal right with anything. Everyone has a right to reject and prohibit sins and immoral practices. People should be ashamed of sin instead of boasting about it and persecuting the Christians for opposing it. The West needs Christianity for morality and liberty, not just for salvation.

    • Paul D McKee

      Well Said. Bravo. We Need More Voices Like Yours.

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Thank you very much. The former Christendom USA got into legal lawlessness because the nation has lost Christian virtues. Legality is only woeful when the liberals use it to punish the truth. Judeo-Christian values are the basics for lawfulness and civility, always.

        • Paul D McKee

          I like how you used the word “former”. It is so true. But Christ told use that it will be this way as we near the end. That is what I take heart in. The world system is evil but God Is Pure Good.

          • Paul D McKee

            I am not a catholic but I am a christian and the government has no right to make laws or rules establishing worship.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Amen. Yes, it is the Last Days indeed. Our Christian forefathers have been fighting for liberty and justice and the life of innocent children is at stake, we must keep speaking up God’s truth till the end. Yes, no government should force atheism and definitely not sexual immorality, either. We can still proclaim that it is wrong in all democratic nations, since freedom was established for the proclamation of Christian truth. Secular Western government is trying to bend the Christian conscience by using immorality calling it equal rights to subdue the Christian population and shame the colored people again for sheer amusement this century. They are thirsty to see moral people suffer like Tom’s slave owner. We must not become a food to those perv rich; it is a disgrace as a human being, not just as a Christian.

          • Paul D McKee

            Wisely spoken. The Bible teaches that there is only one race on this earth and that is the human race. We are made up of different colors but we are all one race. There is the divide of who belongs to Christ and who does not. That is where the true battle is and it is a spiritual one that only can be won through the power of unity behind Christ and waiting for his glorious return.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Yes, Amen!

          • Jenny Ondioline

            No, there’s really no evidence that we are living in the “last days”.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            There are plenty. Secular West mocking Christianity their only sane coscience and disgracing their own parents is the largest evidence of the-last-day scoffers. “Scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, and saying, ‘Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.’ For this they willfully forget: that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.” ( 2 Peter ch.3)

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Maybe it’s not Christianity that’s being mocked but some of the attitudes within it, the hatred of homosexuals, the judgement, the bigotry?

          • ShemSilber

            The judgment should be against the sin, and not the sinner, but if the sinner refuses to repent and to have his sins covered by the atoning blood of the Master Yahushua, there is no other source either of forgiveness and everlasting life, but only the second death waits for such a one.

            Blessed are all those who turn to the Master Yahushua, to make Him the King of their lives, for they will have forgiveness and life forevermore, omein.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Amen. John chapter 3 and Revelation chapter 20-22.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            You guys are confined in your own culture. No slavery by the West, never again. Former Westerners were not sexual pervs like today. You guys have been with naked statues for too long.

          • Peter Blaise

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            You’re thinking of ancient societies, like Greece and Rome.

            What country are you in, and how are “naked statues” dealt with there, and throughout history?
            .

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            No, the bad habit in the whole visual art. This day was coming when you abandon the Christian religion your only sanity.

          • Peter Blaise

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            I’m thinking of Michelangelo and all his work for the church, the Sistine Chapel and so on … what was it about naked art versus Christianity again?

            You have turned your own personal confusion and fear into inappropriate uneducated slogans.
            .

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Yep, saw it and let me tell you, lot of naked there. And let’s not forget his most famous statue, naked David. He is kinda hot.

          • Peter Blaise

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            … and Michelangelo’s Davis is LARGER than life because people accused him of not carving but casting his sculptures from life, they were “too” accurate.

            Importantly on topic, considering the Church’s reverence for Michelangelo, there is absolutely no doubt that Michelangelo was homosexual, and his David was a portrait of his admiration for the male form.

            Michelangelo’s naked women appear to be naked men with attached orbs, by the way.

            His Pieta is heart rending, and Mary is clothed, but Jesus is naked, and perfect.
            __________

            Why anyone thinks that sexuality is the most important and determinative thing about anybody is beyond me.

            I hope the school learns to apologize, and unstick it’s wicket.
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Again religion is just that religion. The blind leading the blind.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Okay.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            Religion is just that religion. Ascribe to TRUTH and RELATIONSHIP and you will find that immodesty is wrong.

          • Peter Blaise

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            I’m looking up the origins of the words and concepts of “modesty” versus “shame”, and I’ll get back to you if I find anything informative beyond the obvious ( modesty is a self-choice, shame is inflicted by others ).
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            No sorry Modesty is moderation in something & is the behavior, manner, or appearance intended to avoid impropriety or indecency. Shame is caused by the consciousness of wrong or foolish behavior: or used as a verb… a father who has a son who even after being taught what is right chooses to go against his father’s teachings & therefore brought SHAME to his fathers house or the father tried to SHAME the son in order to awaken his sons conscience to his foolish behavior.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Funny how your example exonerates the father.

            More to that than you are probably aware of.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            What did the father do wrong? In the example… was the father unloving or wrong to teach his son right from wrong? Was the father wrong to correct and punish a wayward son in order to help him see his error? Please explain…

          • Peter Blaise

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            Try an example where the father is the wrong one, and go from there.

            And punishment is no one else’s business, ever, under any circumstances — it just makes the punisher evil, and teaches the one punished that might makes right, perpetrating the evil.

            Punishment is an expression of the punisher’s impatience, a sin.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            Well then everyone can just do as they will… because via your statement those who reprove others in any way are sinful. Everyone can steal, cheat, murder, be drunken brawlers, slap women & children around and call their parents whatever foul names they wish because punishment is EVIL. They can sit on their mom and daddies couch and play video games to their hearts content while mom & daddy pay the bills until they are in their 30’s… they can get their girlfriend pregnant or become pregnant at 15 because nice ole daddy will foot the bill for that also & stay calm because to punish or correct them in any way would be evil. Oh & little Johnny can scream at his teacher and refuse to do his work, for that matter while you are at it throw his books at her without any worries because we all know punishment is evil & everyone can do as they will. NO sorry wrong , it is the wicked who do not teach their children right from wrong. It is the wicked who do not care when men and women fall into sin. Sin is not something ambiguous … Sin is in fact transgression of GOD’s instructions. If a father instructs, corrects, reproves or punishes his child in love and for going against GOD’s instructions … no were does the word of GOD ever say this is wrong. Righteous reproof and instruction is there to help us see our error out of love for our soul.

          • Peter Blaise

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            I appreciate your impatience, and your feeling of superiority over others.

            Example isn’t just another way to teach; example is the only way to teach.

            If you punish, then punishment is all there is to learn.

            You can stop passing it on, you know.

            There are other ways.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            If there is no consequence for wrong doing then all will do well to do what is wrong. The example of a loving father who punishes his children when they are doing wrong is not only that of a kick in the back side. A loving father & mother lead yes by example and then by course follow threw with consequences for actions in their home which go contrary to the example set and teaching of what is right and what is wrong. They may take away a privilege , verbally explain the error and how it effected others or they may give a swift kick in the bum. Most loving parents hold the kick in the bum for repeated out right rebellion. We are not talking about abuse or beatings. Punishment that is done in love to steer a person away from a destructive path is far from abuse.

          • Peter Blaise

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            After being convicted of drunk driving, taking away the driver’s license and separating the person from society are all that is necessary, no punishment — others are protected, and the drunk driver can learn in their own time, or not, it’s up to them, maybe attending counseling or AA might help, again, it’s up to them, but society has been protected by arrest and separation.

            Why let the person back into society if they are not able to demonstrate that they are able to function in society?

            Oh, because we have unintelligent “justice” system.

            Still no need for punishment — what are you going to do, whip them, pierce their tongue, cut off a finger?
            __________

            Doing wrong, and contravening one’s parents are unrelated — yu still failed to present a case where the parents are the offenders.

            So yo ukeep harping on children as if they are the ones who are wrong and nee righting.

            Think — if you would not do it to an adult, then do not do it to a child.

            On a bus, would you spank an adult who offended you by being what you perceive as impolite or acting up?

            You’d be arrested for assault.

            Why do you think that touching your kid to inflict such punishment is any different?
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            Again you must have been beaten as a child because you have no concept of correction and think all it entails is a butt kicking. Somehow you fail to see that taking an adults license away who is caught driving erratically down a highway is not punishing him. By the way many who continue to get DUI’s must attend AAA meetings after leaving jail. WHY? To prevent that person from continuing down the wrong path.

            As to correcting a child in front of strangers , that only causes resentment and anger. The bible clearly tells parents to never correct a child out of anger lest they become discouraged. Again you have no concept of loving correction but those of us who had parents who corrected us , not in anger but in love understand punishment in it’s right form. We have no problem with being shown what is right or wrong by those who love us and then when we choose a wrong path , having them reprove us. I am thankful for people in my life as a child and also as an adult who cared enough to stop what they were doing and say hey you’re going the wrong way & it will bring harm to yourself or others if you don’t turn back around.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Thanks for your extensive exploration, but I fear you are sloppy with words.

            Two things:

            1 — you skipped past that assault thing that you would not touch an adult, so why would you touch a child?

            2 — Why punish anyone, instead of … well, Google search [ why punishment is wrong ], where they explore different concepts, such as discipline, redirection, connection, engagement, equivalent consideration, and so on.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            Oh do forgive me I did not realize I was expected to answer every point you made. Yet yes I did answer the correcting a child in public but I guess you want me to say also that it’s wrong to correct others in public. OK… it’s wrong to correct both adults and children in public. Secondly it is well known that parents are the ones who instruct their children and for a parent to correct an adult is just plum silly. Of course you would not hit or correct either a child or an adult in a public setting. And adults do not parent other adults even not in public… once my son became a man he no longer needed me to enforce what was right or wrong in my home. Adults don’t instruct other adults because ummm well adults are suppose to be mature and already know right from wrong if they had good parents to raise them. It’s a no brainer!

            Why would I study different concepts when I know that loving correction works and produces not only children who honor their parents but also , adults who are law abiding citizens . None of my grandparents, parents & brothers and sister have ever been in jail . None of our grown kids have ever been in jail and are our pride and joy. So loving corrections worked for our family tree. Yet the kids who grew up with me who their parents felt correction was wrong got into all kinds of trouble and one even punched her elderly father in the mouth. Bet he was wishing he could go back and do a redo.

          • Peter Blaise

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            I wrote nothing about “correcting a child in public”, I wrote about assault, something you would not do to an adult, so why do it to a child?

            We’re not talking about “correction”, we’re talking about punishment.

            I appreciate that you have the word punishment conflated with other concepts and behaviors.

            I’ll wait for you to sort it out.

            Really read the Google search results I directed you to.

            Come back when you’re ready to dialog about punishment.
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Punishment is the result of correction. It is the consequence for not following instructions. Therefore it could be a number of things.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Yes, I know you conflate words into one big non-definitive imprecise inaccurate mass, where even marking a student’s failing exam with an F would be “punishment” to you — it is not.

            We’re taking about parents assaulting and battering their child, and we’re talking about equal citizens employed in prisons assaulting and battering prisoners.
            __________

            punish ( verb )
            circa 1300, from Old French puniss-, extended present participle stem of punir “to punish,” from Latin punire “punish, correct, chastise; take vengeance for; inflict a penalty on, cause pain for some offense,” earlier poenire, from poena “penalty, punishment” ( see penal ). Colloquial meaning “to inflict heavy damage or loss” is first recorded 1801, originally in boxing. Related: Punished; punishing.

            penal ( adjective )
            “pertaining to punishment,” mid-15th century, from Old French peinal ( 12th century, Modern French pénal ) and directly from Medieval Latin penalis, from Latin poenalis “pertaining to punishment,” from poena “punishment,” from Greek poine “blood-money, fine, penalty, punishment,” from PIE *kwoina, from root *kwei- “to pay, atone, compensate” ( source also of Greek time “price, worth, honor, esteem, respect,” tinein “to pay a price, punish, take vengeance;” Sanskrit cinoti “observes, notes;” Avestan kaena “punishment, vengeance;” Old Church Slavonic cena “honor, price;” Lithuanian kaina “value, price” ).
            __________

            What’s your goal?

            To help someone learn?

            Or to inflict pain?
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            um no that’s what you keep going back to but beating up people or children has never been the topic.

          • Peter Blaise

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            8 days ago, @SpeakB4UnolongerCan:disqus interjected,

            “… Was the father wrong to correct and punish
            a wayward son in order to help him see his error?
            …”

            Punishment to help someone see?

            Own your own, take responsibility for yourself.
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            um ok and where do you find a beating in that?

          • Peter Blaise

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            I appreciate that you conflate the meanings of different words, but the words retain their separate meaning outside your head nonetheless.

            If you would not do something to an adult stranger, then do not do it to a child.

            Would you punish an adult stranger if they offended you or transgressed or misbehaved?

            I do not expect you to answer, because you do not have a differentiated, demarcated, accurate definition of the word and concept of “punish“.

            But others in this thread and brought here by Google, have at it.
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Okay so a complete stranger who I have accidentally bumped into in a crowded mall becomes agitated and starts yelling at me and then hits me as I try to explain. This is misconduct and unacceptable, right? My 6’2″ husband should stand there and do nothing because it is wrong to punish this stranger for his unacceptable behavior. No one would ever punish an adult for offenses or transgressions and so my husband just stands there and calmly tells this man how naughty he is. ahahaha oh oh oh. Yup that would happen because we never would punish an adult stranger who offends, transgresses or misbehaves in public. Sorry the truth is that adults ARE punished when they offend, transgress or misbehave in public all the time. NO real man would allow anyone to insult his wife or children. NO real mother would ever allow another to harm or insult her little one.

            If an adult runs through a store and knocks merchandise off the shelves in public any manager would ask them to either stop the behavior or leave the store. Should this continue they would be asked to leave. Should they continue and not leave then I assure you they will be tackled and forced to leave. Even adult strangers are not allowed to continue bad behavior without consequence . As to others on this thread… my opinion is not swayed by the few or the many. My opinions are based upon logic and study. I need no pat on the back & am well able to stand alone and still remain true. I would hope I never need the crowds approvable to sure up my position on anything .

          • Peter Blaise

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            Right.

            You do not understand the meaning and concept of the word “punish”.

            You think that “misbehave”, “insult” warrant or result in “punishment”?

            Wow.

            You definitely do not understand the meaning and concept of the word “punish”.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            No sorry I believe it is you who is quite confused .

          • Peter Blaise

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            You have yet to define what you believe the concept that the word “punish” defines for you, especially in relation to other words defining response to, and responsibility for, other people’s behavior, such as parents for children.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            Sorry I have beat a dead horse over and over trying to explain and you have a block which will not allow you to see my definition .

          • Peter Blaise

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            “Your” definition?

            Do you mean that you do not use words to communicate with others ( on an open dialog on the word wide web ! ), but only to communicate with yourself ( on an open dialog on the world wide web ! ) ?

            Okay then …
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            ahahaha oh oh ok

          • Peter Blaise

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            I also note that you believe that being bigger than you opponent empowers punishment ( my 6″ 2″ husband ) …

            … and that’s all punishment teaches children — the the bigger person gets to inflict their will over others by force.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            Ahahaha a play on my words. I used my husbands height to demonstrate a real man not to say because he is bigger he will defend me, even if he was my height of 4’8″ he would defend and correct the person assaulting me. For that matter how do you know the height of the assaulter ? The assaulter could very well be 6’4″ or 5′ …. You totally miss the point and grasp at straws.

          • Peter Blaise

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            When you think of the word and concept of “punish”, is it often something that you witness smaller and less powerful people do to larger and more powerful people?
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            No not at all. I am only 4’8 and I punished my children who towered over me. Punishment is seldom physical, more often then not it is Phycological. Like okay you decided that the car we offered you to drive you and your sister to school in is a rocket, therefore your punishment is that you can now ride the bus to school. COME ON USE THE BRAIN HERE!

          • Peter Blaise

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            That’s not punishment.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            O K well them guess you never had a parent take something away from you or ground you or simply set you in the corner when you were small or slap your tiny hand when it went to touch fire or send you to your room. The list is endless! I give up. Conversation over cause block walls are hard to break.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Thanks.

            But taking away an abused privileged is not punishment, it is simple contract enforcement.

            Beating the child would be punishment.

            Slapping a child’s tiny hand comes closest in your litany.

            The other things are simple contract enforcement, not punishment.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            MERCIAN-WEBSTER … Full Definition of punishment

            1 : the act of punishing

            2 a : suffering, pain, OR LOSS that serves as RETRIBUTION

            b : a PENALTY inflicted on an offender through judicial procedure

            3 : severe, ROUGH, or disastrous treatment

            Examples of punishment in a sentence

            I TOOK AWAY my daughter’s car keys as a PUNISHMENT for her BAD BEHAVIOR.

            The PUNISHMENTS that the government has inflicted on the protesters are severe and unjust.

            The PUNISHMENT for murder is life imprisonment.

            Some religions teach that wicked people will suffer eternal PUNISHMENT in hell after they die.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Uh-huh, uh-huh … no.
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          • Peter Blaise

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            You seem to be unable to discern the difference between contract enforcement, impatience ( slapping a child?!? ), discipline, connection, caring, education, trust, and punishment, let alone understanding corporal punishment ( slapping a child ).

            Putting someone in jail for a crime against life, limb, or property, and denying them their freedom is not punishment, it’s contract enforcement.

            Solitary confinement and bread and water are punishments, whipping that prisoner is corporal punishment.

            Separating a child from danger and educating them successfully to be self empowered is patience and responsibility.

            Slapping that child is corporal punishment, born merely of your own irresponsible impatience and lack of equivalent consideration for another being.

            Denying your child the use of the car if they abuse the car is contract enforcement.

            Grounding them and denying them unrelated privileges is punishment, again, born of your own impatience, lack of trust, and failed parenting — you are expecting the child to guess what will satisfy you instead of helping them become responsible and self-empowered, you are teaching them by example that the one in power can punish subordinates, and you are teaching them that right and wrong are unimportant, the only thing that matters is outwitting the one in power and circumventing their impatience by any means, in other words, you are teaching them to lie and shortcut their own patience, separate from you, and emulate you by denying others equivalent consideration, including you.

            Example isn’t just another way to teach, example is the only way to teach.

            Equivalent consideration is the only way to behave.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            Again your definition is yours for punishment and not that of every dictionary out there.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Yes, people use words imprecisely.

            However, I pointed out that you would not treat an adult, a stranger, with the same physical assault and battery that you seem to approve of directed towards a child … and you have not explained why you approve of assault and battery of children.
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          • ComeOnPeople!

            I have replied yet you refuse the answer and to be honest this conversation appears to remain one sided. Why continue to beat my head against a brick wall? Continue to enjoy conversing with yourself.

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            So all visual art, paintings, statues, etc is bad? Mmhmm, never went to a museum hey?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Well, I didn’t understand a single thing you said in that message. Naked statues? What on earth? And slavery? Who is talking about slavery?

          • Jolanda Tiellemans

            Oh, she talkes about slavery a lot. How the west is now a slave to immorality.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            She’s a slave to a particularly unrealistic ideology, then.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            True people of GOD hate sin not sinners. WHY? Because every man has sinned in their life time and every man still is tempted and may fall prey to sin again. Therefore true people of GOD are not prideful or hateful . True people of GOD simple warn of the consequences for disobedience to GOD’s instructions out of LOVE towards humanity. As to the word bigotry, it cannot be used towards a true child of GOD because they are not intolerant towards your view. They understand your view and simply hold to the views stated in scripture. It is homosexuals who are many times bigots because they are intolerant of anyone who refuses to believe their view.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            The problem here is you seem to be using the words “sinner” and “homosexual” interchangeably, and I think many people would disagree with you about that.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            People will disagree but the Scriptures confirm it is a deviation from the CREATORS design. I could care less what religion says or what man made laws try to impose upon religion. I am able to use my mind for myself and either obey GOD’s instructions or violate them. Sin by the way is “transgression of GOD’s law.” So in saying those who practice adultery , thievery, incest , sex with animals, drunkenness , lying or homosexuality, etc etc… are sinners is correct because all of those are in fact transgressing HIS law( instructions ).

          • Jenny Ondioline

            As I just finished saying to someone else, the word “homosexual” did not exist until the 1800s. So your translation must be saying something other than what you’re trying to get it to say.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Of course our modern word homosexuality is not used in ancient texts yet the definition by which the word is divided is there and that definition has not changed… Definition of homosexuality is … a romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the SAME SEX or gender. As a sexual orientation, homosexuality is “an enduring pattern of emotional, romantic, and/or sexual attractions” primarily or exclusively to people of the SAME SEX.

            The words of Yeshua… And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that HE which MADE THEM at the beginning made them MALE andFEMALE, And said, For this cause shall a MAN leave father and mother, and shall cleave to HIS WIFE: and they twain shall be ONE flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore GOD hath JOINED together, let not man put asunder.

            The Apostle Paul.. Wherefore God also gave them up to UNCLEANNESS through the LUSTS of their own HEARTS, to DISHONOR their own bodies BETWEEN THEMSELVES: who changed the TRUTH of God into a LIE, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave them up unto VILE AFFECTIONS: for even their women did change the NATURAL USE into that which is AGAINST NATURE: and likewise also the men, leaving the NATURAL USE of the woman, burned in their LUST one toward another; MEN WITH MEN working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their ERROR which was meet…

            1COR: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor ABUSERS of THEMSELVES with mankind…

            GAL: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, UNCLEANNESS, LASCIVIOUSNESS…

            EPH: But fornication, and all UNCLEANNESS, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. For this ye know, that no WHOREMONGER, nor UNCLEAN person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.

            COL: Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, UNCLEANNESS, INORDINATE AFFECTION, evil CONCUPISCENCE , and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things’ sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.

            1 TIM: For WHOREMONGERS, for them that DEFILE themselves with mankind, for men-stealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine…

            JUDE: For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into LASCIVIOUSNESS , and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

            The words whoremonger, uncleanness and lasciviousness used in these verses are referring to defiled sexual behaviors & lust that deviates from the original design. One man, one woman coming together as ONE in marriage.

          • ShemSilber

            Isn’t it true that the Apostle Paul lists among the sins that, unrepented of, can keep us out of Yahuwah’s Kingdom, effeminacy and homosexuality? See 1Corinthians 6:9-11, where it also says, “…and such WERE some of you, but you were WASHED…” for they were washed with the water of the Word and thereby cleaned up, so that they learned to overcome sin, for the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) was preparing them to be citizens of the Kingdom of Yahuwah, living in peace and productivity for eternity, rather than having to die the second death in Gei-Hinnom, the Lake of Fire.

            We are saved by grace through faith that the Master puts within us, in order to do the good work of overcoming our sins, per Ephesians 2:8-10, in Yahushua’s Name, omein.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I don’t know what translation you’re using, but the word “homosexual” didn’t even show up until the 1800s. First problem. You’re expecting homosexuals to be heterosexuals, and that’s the second problem.

          • ShemSilber

            The first and most important point to state is that homosexuality can be forgiven, can be covered by the blood of our Messiah Yahushua (Jesus) and thus wiped out, and it can be changed, as Paul points out in 1Corinthians 6:9-11, as pointed out in my post above.

            The exact word “homosexual” may not appear until such-and-such a time, but the principle is explained in plain terms in Leviticus 18:22, where Yahuwah prohibits a man from lying with a man as with a woman, and in Leviticus 20:13, where He pronounces it worthy of death. See also Deuteronomy 23:18, which states that it is forbidden to offer to Yahuwah either the hire of a whore or of a dog, of which the latter is referring to those who were male prostitutes.

            That is not enforced in our society, but it will be enforced in the Judgment, when all who, by their own choice, have refused to accept the gift of everlasting life from the Master Yahushua will appear before Him, and they will remain mortal and burn to ashes in Gei-Hinnom.

            He descended from the heavens to live among men in order to be our Redeemer (Philippians 2:5-11), paying the ultimate price with His sinless life to save us, because He has NO PLEASURE in the death of the wicked, but that they should repent and turn to Him for everlasting life (Ezekiel chapters 18 and 33).

            Blessed are all those who choose to have the Master Yahushua as the King of their lives, omein.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            We know from science that homosexuality isn’t an illness and as such there is no cure. We know from the American Psychological Association that it cannot be changed, either.

          • ShemSilber

            You are right that homosexuality is not an illness. It is rather a sin and a choice, and as such it can be changed. It HAS been repented of and changed from. Even in the time of the Apostle Paul, he said, “…and such WERE some of you, but you were WASHED…” Nobody, not even the American Psychopathic Association, therefore “knows” that it cannot be changed, because some HAVE changed from it, by submission to the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus), having their sins forgiven, and through His power working in them, they do indeed become new people. The Master gives their character a makeover. Even as alcoholics become “recovering alcoholics,” they become “recovering homosexuals,” and even as I have become, a “recovering Christian,” and thankful that the Master Yahushua that He has saved me from Christendom, making a new person out of me. He can do likewise for you, my dear.

            As Winston Churchill used to say, “Never give up! Never give up! NEVER GIVE UP!” In the Name of our Master Yahushua, never give up. You, too, can have your sins forgiven and live forever, omein!

          • Rob Kay

            It is the last days for people who believe that some ancient dusty script justifies them breaking the law or discriminating against their fellow humans, for sure, That’s why religion is dead in the water.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            The Word of God never changes. The West committed crimes by racism before, it’s sexual immorality and global population control by mass murder this time. Mankind always needs the Holy Bible to do what is right. You Westerners would have been illiterate barbarians like the rest if you had no Church. Stop attacking your own sane conscience this century.

          • ShemSilber

            Yes, religion is “dead in the water,” because. along with the rest of the world, it is riddled full of the lies of the devil (Revelation 12:9), but there is a difference between religion and obedience to the Creator, our Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus), appointed by our Abba (Father) Yahuwah to be our Creator, Healer, Redeemer, and our eternal King of kings.

            Yes, religion is dead in the water, but a few people, probably very few, are learning obedience, which is a far cry from religion, in the Master Yahushua’s Name, omein.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Back to righteous instructions & HOLY decrees which lead all mankind back to the Garden before the fall, before disobedience, before lust, before deception, nakedness and death. True freedom is returning to the SOURCE of all life and submitting to the ONE who rules and reigns forever … the righteous KING.

          • ShemSilber

            Omein! When we return to the original instruction, we can throw all the church doctrine that is contrary to the Scriptures out the window and just follow the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus), omein!

          • ComeOnPeople!

            There are those who have broken free of not only religion but also mens lies and enslavement. Those who choose to follow their CREATOR via HIS instructions. Yes religion is dead but the KING of righteousness reigns on the throne and soon everyone both small and great will bow the knee.

          • Amos Moses

            well the word “catholic” only means “universal” ….. Christ only has one church universal ….. “Catholic” ….. totally different meaning …….

        • Ambulance Chaser

          We are not “lawless.” We have many laws. Laws you don’t like, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

          • Amos Moses

            yes you are ……….. LAWLESS …………. “Laws you don’t like, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.” …. YEP …. just like Gods law ….. you dont like it ….. but guess what …………

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Guess what, what? It exists? Prove it.

          • Amos Moses

            your denial of its existence does not negate its existence ….. like you said …… “Laws you don’t like, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.” ….. really hurts when your words come back to bite your assets …………

          • Ambulance Chaser

            No, I can point to not only where man’s laws are written down but the consequences of violating them. Can you show me where and how God’s law is enforced?

          • Amos Moses

            natural consequences of ignoring them …. drive too fast around a corner ….. HIS laws of physics will show you the error of your ways ….. step off the edge of a cliff ….. HIS laws will again show you the errors of your ways ….. stick one of your members in an orifice where they should not be ….. HIS laws will again show you the errors of your ways ….. murder your neighbor or steal from him ….. HIS laws will again show you the errors of your ways …..

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Take anal sex for instance. Look up the health risks and you will find the natural world which GOD created if perverted will cause disease and or harm to those who break natural laws built into the nature of all things by the CREATOR. Therefore as WebMD states … The only way to completely avoid anal sex risks is to ABSTAIN from anal sex. hmmm GOD’s design is a man and woman coming together for procreation… when that design or law is breached… built into that law are the consequences , diseases, harm or sometimes death. I have been married 34 years, had one partner all those years and have never suffered from any sexual disease or fiscal harm to my body from sex. WHY? Because I have not broken GOD’s law in regard to creation.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            What does anal sex have to do with anything?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            It was to answer the post above it…. by Ambulance

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Anal sex is practiced by straight people just as often.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Do you have the inability to read what is written or do you just wish to avert attention to what is written? Read again and you will find within the post that it is a dangerous practice. Also you may see the point being made that when mankind breaks GOD’s design diseases , harm or death is inevitable .

          • Jenny Ondioline

            This post is about a gay young man bringing a male date to a dance. Somehow you’ve gotten to talking about anal sex. Why? Are you suggesting it’s something all gay males do? Is there something inherent in the story that suggests this young man is going to engage in it at the dance?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Again you are failing to read the post of which I used the example to reply to that post. I will not play your distraction game.

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I’m not distracting or playing games, I am trying to understand your point.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Read the post above to do so.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Obeying laws is fine. The problem is you not only want laws created to fit your lifestyle but you want us to agree with homosexuality morally and spiritually. The LGBT agenda is to change not only laws to accommodate their lifestyle but also force their belief that their same sex practices are moral and not against the Spirit of GOD. GOD’s laws cannot be changed regardless of what religions or courts say. They are forever settled. HE came not to remove HIS covenant laws but to remove the levitical law of sacrifices and teachings which were imposed because man had broken HIS Covenant law. Therefore you can have your manmade laws but do not think to force your ideas and immorality upon those who hold to HOLY laws and precepts. Mans laws can change but GOD’s laws which set HIS people apart morally and spiritually cannot be changed.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            So…thank you for admitting we are not lawless.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Lawless to this corrupted system? No of course not , you are right there rooting for it. You adhere to corruption , unjust laws and perversions very well all in the face of the King of the universe. You have chosen to obey mans perversions of law over the laws given by your CREATOR. You serve the created being very well. Sad that one day every knee will bow and confess that Yeshua is LORD after spending their life denying the fact. No more earthly judges to placate mans perversions and immorality in that day because they will have only ONE Judge to answer to and HIS laws are based upon righteousness .

          • ShemSilber

            Very sound post, but it seems to me that you misspelled a word at the beginning of the second line. Instead of “rooting” it should have said, “rotting,” don’t you think so? I’m sure the Master Yahushua would have approved, LOL and omein!

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No I mean to root for… as in rooting for a team. Rooting for this lawless corrupted system was the implication. But yes indeed it is rotting ahaha rotten to the core.

          • ShemSilber

            Yes, is had the Ambulance Chaser in mind when I said “rotting” instead of “rooting.” You might say I’m a fugitive from the punitentiary.

            I’m reminded of a conversation I had with a Taiwanese fellow over 50 years ago. We were talking about attorneys when I said to him, “When you say ‘lawyer,’ I can’t tell if it’s ‘lawyer’ or ‘liar.’ Said he: “What’s the difference?”

            May you have a blessed day rooting for Kingdom Come, in the Name of our Master Yahushua, omein.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Not-allowing Christians or Christian institutions to live out the Christian teachings is lawlessness. The West has no lawfulness or civility apart from Christianity. The West only has immorality and suicide as the core value as a Non-christendom.

          • Trilemma

            What Christian teaching was CBHS not allowed to live out?

            CBHS is being sued because they did not live out Christian teachings such as their published promise to honor and respect the dignity of all persons, to welcome boys of all creeds, and to provide a quality education.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Living out Christianity is calling out to sinners for repentance, as Jesus commanded a sexual offender not to sin in John chapter 8. Today’s secular West is demanding Christians to endorse abnormal sexual immorality in a Nazi-style against the Word of God and against Christian conscience. The Holy Bible said, “And on some have compassion, making a distinction; but others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh.” (Jude ch.1) Sin is no dignity and immorality has no creed.

          • Peter Blaise

            .
            What about the Nazis do you think aligns with equal protection of equal civil rights under the US Constitution with no discrimination in government and public accommodations?
            .

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Today’s Western secularism’s problem is their inability to differenciate the good and the evil. Nazis was completely defeated by then-Christian USA. It’s gone.

          • Peter Blaise

            .
            You have a point in the rise of T-Rump.

            But you are apparently unaware of Alan Turing.
            .

          • Trilemma

            How were they not allowed to call out to sinners to repent?

            It is the school’s policy that someone like Lance should feel safe, secure and accepted at CBHS yet they made him feel the opposite.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Homosexuality is sin. Biblical Christians alone ensure the safety of LGBT people; all others harm them either by violence or by false indoctrination. Allowing homosexual dates means endorsement of such sin and is altogether Anti-christian. Secular Westerners should be ashamed of sexual depravity instead of boasting it and forcing the endorsement of it like some madmen. Enough of slavery by the bored well-fed perv rich on Planet Earth. People have rights and freedom to keep God’s truth, sane morality. You guys are childless and being horribly bored and that’s why you want to destroy the Church by demanding immorality in the 21st century.

          • Peter Blaise

            .
            Who’s not allowing Christians or Christian institutions to live out the Christian teachings?

            But, since you confuse ancient Greece and ancient Rome with morality, I don’t expect much of a well-researched answer.

            I suggest that you read at least five different, argumentative books on any subject before further comment ( think: Rome and crucifixion, Julius Caesar boasted of having 1,192,000 enemies killed during his reign, Tiberius would have young men’s urethras sewn shut before force-feeding them wine, Caligula had noblemen sawed in half … think: Greek and Phalaris’s oven made in the shape of a bull, in which he roasted his enemies alive ).
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            All are corrupted when they choose earthy kings over their CREATOR, when they choose mens laws , statues and decrees over the instructions given to them by their CREATOR. Every society and every religion becomes immoral and perverted when they choose to obey the created over the CREATOR. When they choose darkness rather then light and allow the propaganda of evil men to shape their opinions.

          • Peter Blaise

            .
            Ooo, sounds like a religious cult, maybe we ought not to go there as a country where we all get along under Constitutional law.

            By the way, do you have any examples to share of any society that has ever lived the way you describe — honoring a heavenly God and abstaining from earthy laws?

            I’m just asking.
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No I have the examples of righteous men who walked not after their own ways or the ways of corrupt rulers but followed the instructions of a HOLY righteous KING. Oh and as before so it is now, those who actually keep GOD’s instructions are classified and marked as enemies of not only the religious ruling class but also the government ruling over men. Therefore you use a word to classify me. Sorry not buying it. Read scripture and you will find many examples of men who returned to their CREATORS ways and walked in those ways. I won’t do your homework for you because I don’t have time to write what has already been written and is easily acquired if you wish to know the answer.

          • Peter Blaise

            .
            Thanks for the head’s up and pointers.

            Sorry you experience whatever as somehow unsatisfactory.

            I wish you the gift of equanimity.
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Sorry if I misunderstood your intentions. On these posts when a person types cult they are usually referring to you or what you have written. Abraham and his seed were a faithful bunch, Enoch, David was a man after GOD’s own heart, Joshua king over Israel at a young age … tore down the pagan alters and caused the people to walk again in the ways pleasing to the CREATOR… There are many more who stood out and turned the people of GOD back around in history.

            As to being under a man made rule. We all bought into citizenship when we had birth certificates made and social security numbers assigned to us. This was never GOD’s plan but when men fall away from HIS design they make their own corrupt versions of such.

          • Peter Blaise

            .
            Birth certificates and Social Security, eh?

            I hesitate to ask the sin in those …

            Does no one understand that our contract of our Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and there are no kings ? ! ?
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Oh so you actually believe you are free?

          • Peter Blaise

            .
            Hell no … I charge by the hour.
            .

          • ComeOnPeople!

            I digress .

    • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

      What you consider “immoral” is not considered immoral in the Constitution. All U.S. citizens are equal under the law, and religious laws are forbidden by the first Amendment and made applicable to the States via the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment.

      Unless you repeal those two constitutional laws, you cannot dictate to others how they may are may not seek happiness.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        And so you have eaten the propaganda and will have no problem when they start destroying any and all who will not bow to men imposing corrupt laws upon them. You have become like those who were conditioned via propaganda right before men, women and children where marched on to their death. Religion and Governments have always destroyed any and all who disagree with their laws and soon history will repeat itself here in america. We will have state run religion and any who disagree with that state run religion will be locked up or killed. So forget religious dogma and corrupted mans rule and come back to TRUTH and a righteous KING.

        • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

          Now that was certainly quite convoluted, replead with generalizations and unfounded generalizations.

          And through all that kicking up of dust, you were still transparent in your dodging the issue, which is the secular Constitution of the U.S.

          So, let’s get specific.

          Do you consider the Constitution to be “propaganda?”

          Do you believe that abiding by the Constitution, you will be rounded up and killed because you consider yourself a Christian?

          Exactly what religious rights have you lost via the Constitution?

          Should the laws of Deuteronomy, for example, take precedence over the Constitution?

          Let’s talk specifics.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Let us go study the constitution and how it was thus defined by those who signed it into law. In regard to freedom to practice religion and what that entailed . You will find that the definitions have been manipulated and redefined to appease a corrupt society . I can load this post down with the founding fathers quotes which clearly define what is written but I will digress and leave that to your study. I have no need to study that which I already know and is documented in history.

            As to my belief that soon we will have a one world religion controlled by the state… You have only to study religious history and look at the news to see that a pattern being repeated. Again do your own homework and study without bias and make your own conclusion . As for myself… that’s my conclusion.

            As to transparency … I see none on your part. I see no proof for your claims nor proof in history of the new found interpretations of our constitution .

            As to your rather large vocabulary … I wonder is it in an attempt to make me cower or to diminish somehow my silly grade school grammar. Hmmm If you aim to win a wars with your large cannons then do so but I shall stick to my meager pen and humble studies.

          • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

            You will find that the definitions have been manipulated and redefined to appease a corrupt society .

            Of course the wording has changed, but not because of what you believe. Slavery was a part of the Constitution. Do you consider that it still should be?

            As well, the Bill of Rights was added and subsequently expanded in an attempt to bring about the equal status of all citizens. I know that the notion of universal equality under the law is antithetical to most religions, including Christianity, but this nation was not founded as a theocracy and nor has it become so. We live in a secular society under a secular Constitution.

            The Establishment Clause of the First Amendment, written by James Madison was derived from/inspired by Jefferson’s “A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom,” which Madison ushered through the Virginia legislature while Jefferson was in France. This is the document to which the courts defer for understanding the intent of the Establishment Clause. You can find his original by googling “Founders Online” and “A Bill for Establishing Religious Freedom.”

            Quotes from various founders (fake or real) have no bearing on the written intent of the Establishment Clause, which was made applicable to the States via the 14th Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause.

            you have only to study religious history and look at the news to see that a pattern is being repeated. Again do your own homework and study without bias . . .

            It is clear that you have not studied with objectivity. There never has been a world religion even though verious religions, including Christianity, has attempted to make it so by conquest. We do not even have a nation under one religion. Your statement is irrational.

            As to your rather large vocabulary … I wonder is it in an attempt to make me cower . . .

            Gosh, I’m so sorry that my normal English bothers you so much. I suppose I should be ashamed, although I’m not quite sure with which words you had trouble. Could you be more specific?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            I see that you wish a battle of words and I’m not interested nor am I enticed . I have done my homework and do not wish to copy past it into a message board. My posts are simply to get others to think for themselves, study and then come to a conclusion based upon their findings.

            My view on a one world government are based upon , what is happening in the world, with economies and what leaders are saying. Many are encouraging a NEW WORLD ORDER. Also if you follow what the pope is saying and the religions of the world, you will see that they are calling for a universal church.

            Is there a one world government and a one world church in place. Of course not! Yet one can use reasoning via what is being put out in news around the world and also if they believe GOD’s word is true, they see prophesy taking shape.

          • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

            I see that you wish a battle of words

            My apologies for being sarcastic about your objection to the language I use, but I’m not going to change my writing style for you and I really don’t care for a “battle of words.” I never considered my use of English to be an issue and I’m not sure why it concerns you so much.

            My posts are to get others to think beneath the surface by accessing original documents where possible. In the case of the Establishment Clause, the original intent is well documented. That document, in three paragraphs, lays out the intent of the clause and that is what the courts take into consideration when adjudicating church-state issues. I’m not surprised that you will not read it because that is the usual response I get from the suggestion.

            I gave you evidence to support my position. What you are giving me is conjecture, not evidence. Most religions strive for a one world religion–their own. Christians are forever sending out missionaries around the world to convert people to Christianity. But while Christianity is growing, Islam continues to be the fastest growing religion in the world.

            I do not go by what verious founders said, but what became codified into law and what was its intent.. The Establishment Clause was designed to place all individual views of religion on a level playing field simply by forbidding government to show favoritism to one over others. Making any law based on the beliefs of one religion does exactly that.

            The Bill of Rights, then, was not written for the protection of the majority, but the minority. It gives them equal status with the majority. It is a wall against tyranny of the majority. In the U.S., however, Christians are working feverishly to breach that wall–to make the U.S. an official Christian nation–to make it a one nation religion.

            I, too, have done a lot of studying in world religions (their origins, growth and death), economics and the nature of justice. So, let’s have a discussion of relevant facts.

            You say that there is a lot of evidence for your belief that we are trending to a one world religion/government. Let’s take your strongest argument and have a look at the evidence.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Then what you are saying is that should a society fall away from it’s original intent and become corrupted, you have no problem following any new interpretations of laws based upon the culture . You will forgo what was implied for that which has transformed to meet the corruption of the society. Culture rules and not what is right.

          • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

            My word, you could not be further from what I said.

            Why don’t you spell out what you believe is the First Amendment’s “original intent?”

            I gave you the name of the document that laid out the intent of the Establishment Clause. Society has changed a great deal since it was written, but the true original intent remains intact.

  • Michael C

    If I’m reading this article correctly, Sanderson is not suing the school because he couldn’t bring a date to a dance, but actually for a whole host of other reasons (that, for whatever reason, are poorly outlined in this article).

  • Reason2012

    So in other words someone who chose to go to a catholic school knowing their stances on certain behaviors is now suing because he was not allowed to break the rules and behave in ways that were clearly pointed out to be against that private school’s policy.

    Yes, those that blatantly violate a schools rules and get themselves expelled make it so that such a school cannot “provide Lance with an education”. Perhaps if he was there to get an education rather than break the behavior rules (including going to public media to bash the school) then cry foul when the expected results kick in, then he’d get an education.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      What rules do you keep referring to? The complaint says that he was given to believe, at the outset, that homosexuality was not against the rules at this school. If that is the case, then the school did breach it’s contract.

      • Lois Yandt

        That is a ridiculous comment…HE was given to believe, SHOW me the FACTS on that one FACTS, not hearsay

        • Trilemma

          Lance was openly gay as a freshman yet the school allowed him to re-enroll each year into his senior year.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Why is it a “ridiculous comment?” I have no idea what the school promised him at the beginning, nor do I claim to.

          I only said that he’s alleging that he was told that homosexual behavior would not be punished at this school. If he was told such, and the school punished him anyway, that’s a breach of contract, and he should win his case.

          If they made no such representation either way, he should still win because the school still has a contractual obligation to give him an education and he has done nothing to excuse the school from that obligation.

          If he was told “you can’t be gay here or you’ll be expelled” and he tried to bring his boyfriend to a dance, then he is the one in breach and should lose.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            NEW way to make millions. Sue all those mean hateful believers in GOD’s laws & precepts. Sue anyone who does not agree with your morals or says your activities are wrong biblically. Sue anyone who hurts your feelings by telling you what you are participating in is immoral. It’s a free for all!!!

          • Trilemma

            In this particular case, at least some of the Christian faculty and some of the Christian students really were being hateful and violating God’s laws and precepts.

          • Amos Moses

            Nope …………

          • Trilemma

            So Christ’s command to love your neighbor as yourself doesn’t apply when you neighbor is gay?

          • Amos Moses

            My neighbor ….. yes ….. an enemy of the gospel and an unrepentant sinner ….. no ….. we are to preach the gospel and the law to all ….. Christ does the rest of the work …. we are to love our enemies ….. but that does not include just accepting and endorsing their unrepentant sin ….. homosexual … not homosexual ….. does not matter ….. their sin choice is not at issue ….. his being a homosexual has no bearing on the issue …. his unrepentant sin nature does ………..

          • Trilemma

            So Christ’s command to love your neighbor as yourself doesn’t apply when you think your neighbor is an enemy of the gospel and an unrepentant sinner. I don’t recall Christ giving any exceptions to this command.

          • Amos Moses

            what proof do you have that they are my neighbor ……… it is more than just anybody in the world …….. hint …. the operative word is “my neighbor” ………… that is the exception ….. we are to love our enemies as i said ….. but again …. that is not an endorsement of their sin or their unrepentance …….. a person who is a murderer or a thief does not mean he is my neighbor …… nor do i owe them anything but the gospel and the law ………. and not by your definition, but scriptures definition, that is love …………. to seek the salvation of their souls ………

          • ShemSilber

            Loving your neighbor includes rebuking your neighbor for sin (Leviticus 19:17-18), which homosexuality is, per Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, as you could see in the same context as “love your neighbor as yourself” in the first reference given. The Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) loves the sinner, and therefore hates the sin that puts a wall between us and Yahuwah (Isaiah 59:1-8 and context).

            Paul also wrote in 1Corinthians 6:9-11, saying that the effeminate and homosexuals (among others) will not be in Yahuwah’s Kingdom, and he says, “…and such WERE some of you, but you were WASHED…” for they were repentant and turned from their sin, as we can also, by the power of the Master Yahushua working to make us new people, freed up from our sins, in the Name of the Master Yahushua, omein.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            My father loved me growing up but guess what came with that love. Love is not agreement, love is corrections, reproof and instructions in what is right. Do I think my father hated me because he corrected me or told me what I was doing was wrong? NO! The love you speak of is not what the bible is implying. The love this world has painted is a mirage which has no correction, no reproof and no instruction in righteousness. Love which says do as thou will is not love at all because it sees one heading toward a cliff … yet turns and says nothing.

          • Trilemma

            If your father promised that you would be safe, secure and accepted in his home regardless of your sexual orientation and then suddenly kicked you out of the house, would that be love?

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Ok that made no sense based upon the example I gave you. You are saying this father agreed with activities he didn’t approve of and then when those activities where made known he throws his son out. That’s not a loving father. A loving father will never cover up his disapproval just so you can feel better about what your doing and then let his disapproval be made known after the damage is done. Love sets boundaries to protect and then holds to those boundaries out of love.
            The example was to prove to you that love is not this mushy emotional feeling the world is being feed. It’s not what the movies and tv shows are puking up. Love is caring for others enough that when you see them involved in destructive activities you reprove them. If someone says they love you yet they agree with activities you are doing which harm or others, then they don’t love you at all. They simply want to save face and not make you uncomfortable about those activities.

          • Trilemma

            I agree with this philosophical comment of yours. You said,

            You are saying this father agreed with activities he didn’t approve of and then when those activities where made known he throws his son out. That’s not a loving father.

            That’s right. That’s not a loving father. That’s my point. You’re using your father as an analogy for the school but the school didn’t behave the way you described your father. The school acted the way I described in my question. The school’s Code of Conduct published on their website says, “All CBHS students should feel safe, secure and accepted regardless of color, race, background, appearance, popularity, athletic ability, intelligence, personality, sexual orientation, religion or nationality.” Lance was openly gay during his freshman, sophomore, and junior years and apparently was accepted and felt accepted even though the school undoubtedly taught their beliefs about homosexuality. Then in his senior year there was a change in the leadership at the school and Lance was suddenly no longer accepted and forced to complete his senior year online at home.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            That man went into a Christian school knowing that he would never be allow to flaunt homosexuality at a dance. He knew full well that they would never agree to him bringing a same sex partner to a dance. To say he was ignorant to that fact is silly. Why would he even ask if he could bring a same sex partner? Hmmm I wonder how many straight boys asked if it was okay to bring a girl to the dance. He asked because he knew it wasn’t something they would agree to. If he thought it was ok , he would have been like all the other boys and just showed up with his date. He asked so he could have it on record and sue.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            SUE!!! SUE!!! New way to make money should someone hurt your feelings or disagree with you.

          • Trilemma

            The school went way beyond just hurting Lance’s feelings.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Really?

          • Trilemma

            Lance asked several times starting in his junior year if he could take a male to the homecoming dance in his senior year. The school never gave him an answer until a week before the dance when they came up with a new policy that males from other schools were not allowed. Instead of telling Lance in private, they announced this new policy over the school PA system every day until the day of the dance, publicly humiliating Lance every day. The school also forced Lance to complete his senior year online from home.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Gay man in a supposed Christian school hmmmm. Why not go to a secular school where no feelings would be hurt. That wouldn’t make good news & further an agenda. It’s all for propagandas sake and the media and government is setting us all up for a state run religion. Those who actually still have their eye sight can read between the lines. Smoke and mirrors.

          • Trilemma

            Lance was openly gay in the 9th grade, in the 10th grade, and in the 11th grade with no problems. In his senior year there was a change in the leadership at the school and the school decided to violate their own code of conduct and intentionally made Lance feel unsafe,not secure and unaccepted.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            How so?

          • Ambulance Chaser

            You could do that, but you would A) lose, B) be ordered to pay your opponent’s legal fees, C) get countersued for malicious prosecution, and D) testify at your lawyer’s misconduct hearing.

            Or, you could file a facially-valid lawsuit like Lance here did, alleging that he was denied his contractual right to an education.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            SUE! I say we all run to the courts every time someone offends us, disagrees with us or does not accommodate us in some way.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            And if that “non-accommodation” is illegal, you’ll win.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Ahahaha in this corrupt court I assure you that it will rule on the side of corruption . Like cleave unto like. Birds of a feather…

          • ComeOnPeople!

            This new interpretation of the law has created grown up cry bullies and turned out courts into a immoral circus.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I get it. You don’t like the current state of the law. That’s your right. But to pretend that it is something else and then acting dumbfounded when decisions don’t get handed down according to your made up law, well, that’s not your right. That’s just being delusional.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Thinking you can have a corrupted court system enact just , mortal laws is dilution.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I never said the laws in our country were just or moral (the word you actually meant to use). Just that they exist.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            They just made a law that everyone should go jump off the golden gate!!! Hurry you must be obedient!

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I would break it, allow myself to be arrested, then move to dismiss it as unconstitutional.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            hmmmm I see….

          • HopScot

            You’re probably familiar with the arrest process.

          • Amos Moses

            yep …. crybullies ………..

      • ComeOnPeople!

        Why would a practicing homosexual believe a Christian school has no problem with the lifestyle of homosexuality and would approve of the show of such at one of their functions? BECAUSE It’s all a blurring of the lines. And as in the past so it is today… religions synchronizing the instructions of GOD with the corrupt culture in order to save their back sides & draw in the masses . Yet Yahweh is not pleased. GOD is HOLY (Set apart) HIS ways are higher and the people who acknowledge HIM and HIS ways will never mix the ways of the heathen & the rulers of this age with HIS HOLY instructions. Therefore all this is is smoke and mirrors used for propaganda to further blur the lines. Soon history will repeat and false religion and corrupt government will be one . Any with apposing views will be enemies of the state. I choose to be FREE cause I rather enjoy using my GOD given mind.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          It’s like you started to answer the question, then quickly veered off into a ditch, but kept on going.

          • ComeOnPeople!

            No my intent was set from the beginning…

          • ComeOnPeople!

            Nope actually posted a question and then answered it.

  • Liberal Elitist

    This young man and his family have demonstrated great courage in standing up to the bullies.

    • Amos Moses

      Great courage in doing what …………. and who is the bully here …. CRYBULLY is more like it …… “i cant do what i want ….. so ill sue” ………. and as we told all …. it wont stop at fake homosexual “marriage” …… they are coming for the church and the believers ….. because they are sullied …. they will not be satisfied until all are sullied ………..

      • Ambulance Chaser

        No, it’s “I can’t do what I was promised I would be allowed to do,” which is very valid grounds for a lawsuit.

        • Amos Moses

          yeah … no ………. there is no guaranty of matriculation by unforseen or unforseeable circumstances …………

          • Ambulance Chaser

            There is if you enter a contract for it.

          • Amos Moses

            not if you fail to meet part of your obligation ….. and they all knew it was a CHRISTIAN school to begin with ….. if they are that stupid ….. then too bad ……..

          • Ambulance Chaser

            What part of his obligation did he fail to meet?

          • Amos Moses

            there was no promise for him to have a male escort that i am aware … his delusion that there was some acceptance of that in a christian school is just that ………

          • Ambulance Chaser

            You know what? I bet you’re right. The contract was probably silent with regards to homosexual behavior.

            So if the contract makes no mention of a certain thing, then that thing can’t be grounds for breaching the contract.

          • Trilemma

            You’re right, there was no promise for him to have a male escort to the dance. That’s why he asked if he could take his boyfriend. He is not suing the school because they said, “No.”

          • Amos Moses

            Boyfriend….. male escort …. no difference …. still a christian school and a stupid request given those facts …. that they knew from the git…..

          • Trilemma

            It was a legitimate request since other Christians schools allow it.

          • Amos Moses

            if they “allow it ” …… then no they are not …..

          • Trilemma

            The school’s website says, “We value diversity in all its forms and welcome boys of all creeds from across the Mid-South.” That means the school welcomes boys from creeds that affirm homosexuality whether or not some members of the school staff or you agree with that creed.

          • Amos Moses

            “The school’s website says, “We value diversity in all its forms and welcome boys of all creeds from across the Mid-South.” That means ………”

            Again …… So What ……………. it does not mean that … that is what you want it to mean ………..

          • Peter Blaise

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            What if he wanted to bring a Jew as his date?
            .

  • KissyJ

    What is wrong with these people? He knows Christianity views homosexuality as a sin yet he wants to bring a male date to his school dance and when the school says no he wants to sue the school. Everybody must tolerate them and their views but they go out of their way to disrespect others who not support their view. Go to a none Christian school if you want to bring your same sex date to the dance and stop infringing on others right to freedom of religion/belief!

    • Amos Moses

      and thus you have exposed the lie of “tolerance” ….. we are expected to be tolerant of their sin ….. they tolerating us for our lack of it …. not so much …………….

      • Trilemma

        According to the Sanderson complaint, the school created and allowed a hostile environment and should be sued.

        • Amos Moses

          yeah …. evolution in action ….. so what ………

    • Jolanda Tiellemans

      You people even push your religion in a none Christian school (public school). So why don’t you do the same and stop infringing on others right to freedom of not believing in your God.

      • KissyJ

        Your comment is disingenuous and misinformed. Christians don’t force there religion on students in public schools; they may start clubs or pass out literature WHICH THEY HAVE TO GET PERMISSION TO DO FIRST (AND THEY DO GET DENIED QUITE OFTEN) and even then students are not forced to read the literature or be a part of a Christian club. That is in no way the same as attending a PRIVATE CHRISTIAN SCHOOL AND FORCING THEM TO ACCEPT YOUR HOMOSEXUAL LIFE BY SUING THEM IF THEY DON’T. I’m sure if Christians were forcing schools to be Christians, prayer would still be a part of public schools and we wouldn’t need permission to start clubs or pass out literature. Get your facts straight before you comment.

      • KissyJ

        Please do tell me when last you saw or heard of a Christian group suing a public school because the school wouldn’t allow them to make the students practice Christianity during school. No hurry I’ll wait… 😒

        • Jolanda Tiellemans

          Did I say anything about a Christian group suing a public school? Don’t put words in my mouth. I was talking about Christians pushing their religion on a public school where students from different religions go to school. And painting the ten commendments onto a wall in a public school is pushing your religion on to others. I’ll bet when it had been a Muslim quote you Christians would be all over it. So answered your other comment too.

    • Peter Blaise

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      There are 200+ LGBT-affirming Christian denomination across the US, and a Gay Catholic Church in Washington DC.

      “Christianity” is different in each person’s experience.
      .

  • Emmanuel

    A sin will no longer be a sin per the court system.

    • Amos Moses

      they wish ………….

    • ShemSilber

      The more the laws of the land and the court system go against the Torah that the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) gave Moses, per 1Corinthians 10:4 and Hebrews 11:24-26, the more sinful they are, and will have to answer for it before the Master’s judgment seat, when all amtters are finally settled, omein.

      • ComeOnPeople!

        It’s a blurring of the lines. A mixture of paganism & TRUTH. Religion which caters to immorality is just that, a religion and not a relationship. Come out from among them and be separate says the true righteous KING. So glad I left mainstream religion and began a relationship with HE who created me. Who needs the traditions and doctrines of men when we have in our possession TRUTH. What is TRUTH? Yahweh’s instructions are forever settled in heaven and they are the words which give life, peace and joy.

        • ShemSilber

          Omein! Blending heathenism with truth is called “syncretism” in theological circles, and they don’t even know they’re doing it, such as replacing Passover with a celebration named after a heathen fertility goddess, or calling the so-called birth of the sun god at the winter solstice the birthday of the Master Yahushua. Even in 1959, when I was attending a Bible college studying to be a Sunday preacher, the Ruach (Spirit) had shown me not to celebrate “Christ-mass.”

          Praised be Yahuwah that, by degrees, He showed me more Roman Catholic doctrines that I was still clinging to, until He gave me the courage to break free and be delivered from the churches in ’09, when I began in earnest to be a Hebrew instead of a Christian. You know how you felt, being discipled and thereby growing in the Name of the Master Yahushua, and not just merely saved, as I was in the Christian church since 1952.

          So now we are “recovering Christians,” much as some are recovering alcoholics or drug addicts. Praise Yahuwah, in the Name of our Master Yahushua, omein and omein!

      • Peter Blaise

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        Our contract of our Constitution is intentionally non-religious.

        Your practice your religion on yourself, I practice my religion on myself, and we get along together according to the contract of our Constitution.
        .

        • ShemSilber

          Number One: Religion is so riddled with the devil’s lies, that I gave up on it a few years ago. I am now a recovering Christian and have been for a few years, praise Yahuwah.

          The Freedom From Religion Foundation has it right that we need to be free from religion, but they want to replace it with nihilism, nothing, whereas we need a solid foundation that can only be found in the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus).

          Number two: Every human form of government is either based on an imitation of Torah or is in rebellion against it. Our country started out imitating it, but is now galloping into open rebellion against it.

          Number three: Regardless of people’s opinions, the Torah is the far-and-away best standard of how to live ever given to mankind, bar none. It gives us TRUTH rather than religion, in the Name of the Living Torah who gave the Written Torah to Moses (1Corinthians 10:4; Hebrews 11:24-26), omein.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Again, your religion is yours, not ours.

            We have a Constitution to help us all get along, thank you, and it has nothing whatsoever to do with Torah.
            .

          • ShemSilber

            I LEFT religion and don’t have any, but Yahuwah’s Word is the truth. You will find out in the end, facts and not religion are what matters, and Torah has everything to do with everything.

            IF we had a POTUS who would indeed put the Constitution to work instead of tearing its pages to shreds, it MIGHT help. The Constitution is dead in the water, replaced by the Uniform Commercial Code, unless one knows how to protect oneself from the UCC.

            As I said before, “Every human form of government is either based on an imitation of Torah or is in rebellion against it. Our country started out imitating it, but is now galloping into open rebellion against it.” It will take the intervention of our Master Yahushua to END these Dark Ages and to usher in the World to Come, wherein dwells only righteousness, and then you will find out that nobody’s religion ever did anybody any good, and that Torah has everything to do with everything, in the Name of the Master Yahushua, omein.

          • Peter Blaise

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            No, Torah was never used as regulation of commerce in the US.

            But if you can sell it, go right ahead and try.
            .

          • ShemSilber

            Hey, I don’t have to sell it, for it already IS, we just
            don’t realize AS YET that all matters in the world are subject to Torah
            regulation and answerable to the Supreme Court of the heavens, our Abba
            (Father) Yahuwah having appointed the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) as the
            Supreme Justice over all creation. He IS the Way, the Truth, and the Life (not
            a false “religious experience”) before whom all are either to be redeemed
            (given everlasting life in peace and productivity) or judged (and sent to die
            the second death), according to whether they accepted the gift of life for
            which the Master Yahushua paid the full price out of His mercy and favor to us
            and that’s how it is and will remain, omein and omein.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Yup, we just don’t realize that all matters in the world are subject to Torah.
            .

          • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

            I LEFT religion and don’t have any, but Yahuwah’s Word is the truth.

            I see that sentence as a true contradiction. What is your evidence that your religious belief is “truth?”

            Every believer of any religion believes his to be the truth. Virtually all of them were taught from tot-hood to believe it. So, what makes the one you were taught to believe, true?

          • ShemSilber

            Even as some are recovering alcoholics and recovering drug addicts, so am I a recovering Christian. I’m on the way to total deliverance, but I don’t as yet have ALL truth–Yahuwah’s Word is truth, per John 17:17–(see also 1Corinthians 13:12; 1John 5:3), but the Master Yahushua (whom Christians call “Lord Jesus Christ”) rescued me from the churches, even as He rescued the children of Israel from Egypt (1Corinthians 10:4; Hebrews 11:24-26; John 8:56-58). But the children of Israel had trouble getting the Egyptian influence out of them. That’s just like our challenge, to get the churchiness out of ourselves. For that we desperately need the Master’s empowerment.

            All religion, though each may have points of truth, is permeated and immersed in the lies that confuse the people about the truth–lies of Azazel, the devil, the same one going about as the false god of Islam, Allah. There’s no getting around it, per Revelation 12:9.

            So, since the Master Yahushua invited me out of the churches to get me out of them, even so, bit by bit, He is getting the churchiness out of me. It’s a lifelong process. All the credit goes to our Abba (Father) Yahuwah for enabling me to leave religion behind me and to grow in the understanding of “the Way, the Truth, and the Life,” namely, the Master Yahushua (John 14:6), who has made me free from the churches and other deceivers (John 8:32), in the Name of our Master Yahushua, omein and omein.

          • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

            Well, actually I have to remain on the side of logic. To point out passages on a book to prove the truth of what the book says, is circular reasoning–a logical fallacy.

            But, I wish you happiness and fulfillment on your journey.

    • Peter Blaise

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      Sin is personal, having nothing to do with our courts.
      .

      • Emmanuel

        Really? have you been paying attention to the courts?

        • Peter Blaise

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          Cite ONE example, and we can discus.
          .

          • Emmanuel

            same sex marriage

          • Peter Blaise

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            The courts prohibit discrimination in government and public accommodations.

            The court has nothing to do with anyone’s concept of “sin”.

            Divorce is sin by some people’s standards, and divorce predates the existence of the US, our courts had nothing to do with it.

            Where you place your own “sin” measurement is totally personal to you, and not something you can exert on another equal citizen via the agency of our government or public accommodations.

            The courts do not care if you “sin” by yours or anyone’s standards of “sin”.
            .

          • Daniel Ramos

            In case you weren’t paying attention this is a CATHOLIC school, which means it has religious rights that make it exempt from whatever social justice same sex favoring bs the pregressive courts want to inflict on the rest of society.
            This kid deserves to lose this case. This is yet another example of Christians being legislated into forced compliance by an ever increasing antichristian society and the godless government officials that pander to them.

          • Peter Blaise

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            According to the school rules, if male senior student Lance Sanderson partners with, or dates, or marries ( ! ), anther MALE … from within the school … then they can go to the dance as partners.

            He received permission to bring a male from outside the school … then later was denied permission.

            Lance Sanderson has been presented with conflicting treatment and unresponsive explanations from school authorities as he negotiates their educational contract together.

            You have not discovered nor identified anything “Christian” or “antichristian” in nature in the conflict.
            .

          • Daniel Ramos

            None of that means a flying fart to the FACT I gave you. And I’d like to see these “rules” if you don’t mind.
            Christians reserve first amendment rights to speech AND exercise, which in this case means a refusal to entertain same sex disorders as the religious school sees fit.
            See? I made a Constitutional argument. It’s in the first amendment. Try reading it sometime.

          • Emmanuel

            Divorce is another issue. You asked for a sin that the courts allow and I gave you a sin that is no longer a sin per the court. The court says that same sex marriage is not a sin. Correct?
            Now, to answer you, the Bible is very clear on the definition of marriage. The Bible has set the standard. The church should not be told by the government to change their standard. The church should not be held hostage or be seen as intolerant because they have a Biblical standard. There are many churches that do not have this standard, they can marry there. Not all churches are the same.
            So, to wrap up, courts did excuse a sin and the God fearing churches have not.

          • Peter Blaise

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            No, our courts do not weigh in on any assessment of what “sin” is to anyone, that would be unconstitutional “establishment” of religion by our government.

            Same sex partners always had the right to marry, as we all have all the rights just by being born.

            However, same sex marriages were not recognized by our government until popular vote, legislation, and eventually, court decisions enforced such legal recognition across the US in varying stages.

            Our Supreme Court ultimately just prohibited government and pubic accommodations from discriminating against marriage partners because of their sex — no assessment of “sin” or “religion” involved or permitted.

            No church or religion is “held hostage” by anything or anyone …

            … except by their own hand if they try to enter the legal environment of public accommodations or employment or government, and then try to break relevant laws in those highly regulated environments …

            … otherwise, all religions and churches — and people, aligned or unaligned — are free to define “marriage” any way they want to, and believe anything they want to, and behave anyway they want to ( within limits of not compromising the civil rights of others, or compromising the property of others, of course ).
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          • Emmanuel

            Peter, thank you for the conversation and I love talking to adults with some brains- compliment to you for sure. You are very knowledgeable person. Thank you again and I learn from you.
            Courts do not weigh in on what sin is and isn’t, you are right. But, they do in essence. Just to keep the same topic. In the eyes of the court, ssm is not a sin but it is. Regardless of what the state says. I, personally, don’t have a problem with 2 men or 2 women getting hitched. Do you and good luck. They will suffer divorce, custody, alimony and all that stuff the same.
            I think we are saying the same thing but in different ways. I am for separation of church and state. I am not one of these Christians that does not understands it. I think SCS benefits the church.
            I have to say that the church is being held hostage. Let me explain. Many SSM couples want to be married in their church that they grow up in or because it’s a nice and beautiful church. So they press the pastor and church leadership. When they are refused the couple come against them. So the church gives in to avoid having problems. You might say it’s not happening but it is. I have read the pastors’ comments and stories.
            The church should defend and hold to their theology without persecution or being dragged through the mud. A SSM want to marry, please go and do it. but, don’t demand the the church change their theology. The Courts and 1st Amendment give us that right.
            Again, love the talk and I hope we can continue. I’m not trying to change you or convert you just having an adult talk.

  • Amos Moses

    Rentboy;com CEO pleads guilty to promoting prostitution

    Tom Hays, Associated Press October 7, 2016

    NEW YORK (AP) — The chief executive officer of the website Rentboy;com pleaded guilty Friday to promoting prostitution.

    Jeffrey Hurant faces up to 21 months in prison when he’s sentenced Feb. 2 in the federal case in Brooklyn.

    The successful site operated for nearly 20 years in an open and racy way, with male escorts paying for ads to attract new — mainly male — customers. That came to an abrupt end during a raid of Rentboy’s Manhattan offices last year, led by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security. The vast majority of prostitution cases are handled by local authorities.

    ….. the “intolerant” busy bodies ……….

  • Amos Moses

    Captain America Rebooted As Feminist, Atheist, Transgender Hydra Agent
    October 7, 2016

  • Robert

    EVEN With moral clauses that both parents and students have to sign our wels Lutheran high schools still get sued . The bible does say. Jesus came into the world to save sinners of whom Iam the worst. . I don’t think the bible was kidding do you ? So I’m thinking the church should be the least surprised when it’s sued. It’s part of its business dealing with other sinners..So they can know about Jesus to..perhaps when we’re not sued we should be concerned about not standing up for God’s truth.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

    This wouldn’t be occurring had the constitutional framers (like their 17th-century Christian Colonial predecessors) established government and society upon Yahweh’s moral law (including Leviticus 18:22 & 20:13).

    Had they done so, there would be no homosexual agenda in America period because not sodomite or lesbian would dare risk exposing themselves to petition government for their “rights.”

    For more on how Yahweh’s moral law applies and should be implemented today, see free online book “Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant.” Click on my picture, then our website. Go to our Online Books page and scroll down to title.

    • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

      Had they established a theocracy, there would be little difference between us and Muslim theocracies. Remember, with biblical laws (like used in the 17th century), we would still be on witch hunts, burning suspected witches, having inquisitions, auto da feys, and executing homosexuals. You think that sounds great?

      • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Kingdom Ambassador

        I think you sound like an unregenerated pagan who’s rejected his Creator and God, there by creating your own reality.

        • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

          Well, that’s certainly your subjective religious view and it is definitely as valid as anyone else’s subjective religious view based whatever religion they were taught to believe.

          But, of course, you likely would say that they believe false religions, which is exactly what they would say about yours.

          So, considering that, you do realize, do you not, that you are rejecting their god(s), which, of course, makes you an infidel.

    • Peter Blaise

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      The whole point of the US and Constitution was to create something that was NOT a “Kingdom”, duh!

      ISIS much?
      .

  • Rev Donald Spitz

    If Hillary wins you have not seen anything yet. Homosexuality should be criminalized. Homosexuality is a crime against God and against the Holy Bible. After reading this story I know why God wrote:
    Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    • Peter Blaise

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      Ooo, you are seriously mean.

      Your Bible is personal, use it on yourself.

      Our Constitution is how we all get along.

      Now get along.
      .

  • StillBetter&Better

    Good!

  • peanut butter

    Of course he’ll get the money. The government has set that up pretty clear. Scream against Christianity loud and long enough and you can get what you want. But it sure doesn’t make it right.

    • Peter Blaise

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      He’s not screaming against Christianity, he’s suing against discrimination and breach of contract.
      .

  • Jack Douglas

    People have once complained that Christians (yes, even Catholics) force their views and standards on others who disagree. That might or might not have been. However, one thing is clear — SINNERS have a tendency to force their values on those who don’t agree. Case in point….

    • Peter Blaise

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      How is one’s companion a force on others?
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  • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

    If the school takes no taxpayer dollars, then it is perfectly within its rights to have policies based on archaic religious belief. If the school is completely privately funded, the student will lose the suit. He should have known the school’s views and rules. It will at least be a good lesson for him. Freedom of conscience isn’t allowed by some organizations.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      No, you don’t get the right to breach your contracts just because you’re not federally funded.

      • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

        They state that the school “failed to comply with the terms of the agreement by failing to provide Lance with an education during his senior year and failed to allow him to attend school during the majority of his senior year.”

        That the student lost a week of school may be a breach of contract or it may not. The court will decide.

        My argument was about the school’s bigotry in relation to whether it accepts tax dollars. That the parents said that the school “held itself out” to be non-discriminatory, is quite an ambiguous statement. It could have meant non-discrimination on racial issues and it appears that such a statement was not specified in the contract or the parents would have said that.

        But neither you nor I have read the contract and therefore do not know the specifics. What sort of punishment, for example, is stated in the contract for a breach of their standards of behavior and did the student become hostile upon being denied his date?

        In other words, we simply do not know all the relevant facts.

        • Trilemma

          The Code of Conduct published in the CBHS Handbook says, “All CBHS students should feel safe, secure and accepted regardless of color, race, background, appearance, popularity, athletic ability, intelligence, personality, sexual orientation, religion or nationality.”

          • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

            Thanks for that. It is an ethical code. However, again, we do not know the exact reason for his suspension. It certainly appears that he was wronged, but we do not know all the details.

            I think it boils down to this: Can a 100% private school be successfully sued for breaching its own code of conduct in discriminating against a homosexual student?

            I’m not sure, however, how the taunting of all the little bigots in the school that driving him out will affect the suit. It seems there was a lot more going on than this short report mentions.

    • Trilemma

      According to the complaint filed by the Sandersons with the Shelby County Circuit Court, the school receives federal and state funds.

      • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

        Thank you for that information. In that case, they cannot discriminate against a homosexual’s choice of dates and likely he will win his case (as long as the Judge and jury aren’t religious bigots, themselves–in which case, he can appeal to a more Constitutionally oriented court).

    • Peter Blaise

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      No, if the school is a public accommodation, the discrimination can be prohibited, just as in any other public accommodation.

      Plus there is contract law for the student’s tuition.
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  • nineleven

    the church needs to just say no and refuse to make payments on any fine. they are being bullied for being true to the standards of God’s righteousness.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      If a judgment is imposed on you, you don’t “make payments on” it. The Plaintiff freezes your bank account and an enforcement officer takes your money out of it.

  • Rob Kay

    No amount of dodgy doctrine from highly questionable ancient sources can ever be an excuse for someone to behave like an a$$hole to a fellow human being.

  • Curtis Pullin

    Question: Since the Bible condones slavery, should we return to slavery? My answer is no, we shouldn’t.

  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_decay James Scott

    Christians’ discrimination is getting so expensive for them these days that many churches now take up a second collection called the “bigotry bowl” each week just to cover all the costs.

  • Emmanuel

    Many churches have compromised and have fallen to the pressure of the secular view. The church needs to stand it’s ground and draw a line in the sand. If death becomes the church for standing it’s ground, then it was worth it. Jesus said that we would suffer for his name. Bring it on. If the church compromises and follows the secular view, it’s no longer a church but a social club.
    The issue you brought up is not for the secular world to worry about but for the church, in general, to address. Do we follow Biblical standards or not? Some have not and some have. The followers need to pick what type of church they want and want to follow. We know the secular world does not care, so the ball is in our court and we are the ones that need to decide.

    • Peter Blaise

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      I hear your assessment of other faiths.

      I’m not sure why you waste your time or mine with such irrelevant and inappropriate assessment.

      You have your faith, and that is not subject to other’s assessment.

      Kindly return the favor.
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      • Emmanuel

        I respect your view and I will never force my faith on you. The Bible is very clear that we need to hold other Christians responsible if they are not following Christ. We can call them out, in love, and to help them see their mistake and return to Christ. We can not do that to atheists and those that don’t follow Christ. I think that is where so many get confused and don’t know the difference.

        • Peter Blaise

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          Consider yourself called out by the Gay Catholic Church.
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          • Emmanuel

            Here I am, let’s have a talk.

          • Peter Blaise

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            Great discussions behind articles and web pages at a Google search for

            [ gay christian theology ]

            .. including hate groups * on guess which side!
            __________

            * “hate group” is defined by a group that knowingly and repeatedly lies to denigrate and exclude a class of people.
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          • Emmanuel

            Let’s start from the most basic foundation so can be on the same page. And we need to start with sin. What is a sin to you? What is a sin? How do we address sin?
            A hate group is one thing and basic biblical principles is something else. I am not that person or part of that group. I rather sit with a person and have a one-on-one conversation like adults with no judging.