Texas Elector to Resign Rather Than Vote Trump: ‘I Do Not See How Donald Trump Is Biblically Qualified’

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Photo Credit: Gage Skidmore

DAYTON, Texas — An elector in Texas has announced that he has chosen to resign his position rather than vote for Donald Trump as an electorate.

“I do not see how Donald Trump is biblically qualified to serve in the office of the presidency,” Art Sisneros wrote on Saturday in his blog “The Blessed Path: Delighting in the Law of the Lord.” “Of the hundreds of angry messages that I have received, not one has made a convincing case from Scripture otherwise. If Trump is not qualified and my role, both morally and historically, as an elected official is to vote my conscience, then I cannot and will not vote for Donald Trump for president.”

Sisneros had also outlined earlier this month that he does not believe in voting for the lesser of two evils, and pointed to the biblical qualifications for rulers as outlined in Exodus 18:21, 2 Samuel 23:3 and Deuteronomy 1:13.

“God has given us a standard for our civil rulers. They are to be men that fear Him and are to rule justly according His law. This has implications for both the rulers and those choosing them,” he wrote. “The Bible knows nothing of situational ethics; God and His Word do not change. If God tells us we must choose (vote for) a righteous man that fears Him, we are not free to attach an ‘unless’ to the end of that command.”

According to reports, Sisneros had previously been considering being a “faithless elector” after expressing objection to Trump, meaning that he would not cast his vote for Trump despite the candidate’s victory in the state. But he recalled that he had signed a pledge that he would vote for the winner, and regretted doing so, stating that it is “immoral” and “unlawful” that the GOP makes electors sign such an agreement.

“I was wrong in signing this pledge and not communicating to the body when I ran that my conscience would not be bound by it,” Sisneros wrote. “I honestly did not have the convictions about the original purpose of the Electoral College or the biblical qualifications until after I was an elector. The Bible calls this a rash oath and warns against making them.”

“The heart of this issue now is, does honoring the pledge cause me to sin? If it does, then I am obligated not to honor it. If it doesn’t, then I am obligated to honor it,” he said.

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Sisneros concluded that the best choice would be to resign since he has objections to the way the Electoral College is run, and believes that it would be dishonoring to God for him to vote for Trump.

“Since I can’t in good conscience vote for Donald Trump, and yet have sinfully made a pledge that I would, the best option I see at this time is to resign my position as an elector. This will allow the remaining body of electors to fill my vacancy when they convene on Dec 19 with someone that can vote for Trump,” he wrote. “The people will get their vote. They will get their Skittles for dinner. I will sleep well at night knowing I neither gave in to their demands nor caved to my convictions. I will also mourn the loss of our republic.”

Sisneros reportedly wrote in candidate and pro-life advocate Tom Hoefling of Iowa for the Nov. 8 election.


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  • Amos Moses

    ¯_(ツ)_/¯

  • Trilemma

    He did the right thing by resigning.

  • John Buchanan

    Guidelines for church leadership or pastoral , are not the same as political . I believe that Donald Trump has a heart for God , has prayed for forgiveness of sins and is seeking , whereas Hillary is completely spiritually bankrupt , and champions the cause of Planned Parenthood aka baby murder , and homosexual marriage . How do you liken that to Christianity ? Mr.Trump, just like me , does not deserve grace . How will he ever know grace if we as Christians don’t extend it ? This politician is being judgemental and Phariseeic in denouncing Mr.Trump

    • Amos Moses

      “This politician is being judgemental and Phariseeic in denouncing Mr.Trump”

      The Pharisee Card
      BY PULPIT & PEN · MAY 10, 2014

      You’re here because someone (maybe you) played the Pharisee card. Consider the following, and let’s all remember that if you’re going to play the Pharisee card, you should play it fairly.

      OK, so I stole the idea from an article posted at Issues Etc. But the next time someone plays the Pharisee card, consider the following…

      The Pharisees weren’t rebuked because they were “legalistic”….

      pulpitandpen;org/2014/05/10/the-pharisee-card/ – Replace the ; with a .

    • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      I agree that he’s being judgmental and Phariseeic, but I also contend that we need to pray for Trump and his team.

    • Joey Paquette

      John, I couldn’t agree more with you!!! What a Pharisee??!!

    • eassa

      John, Trump has a heart for God??? What Bible are you reading?!
      How could you have researched Trump’s political positions and lifestyle, past and present and have come to that conclusion?

      • John Buchanan

        I wasn’t aware that Trump was in the Bible . You must have studied harder than me . Can you tell me what chapter and verse ?

    • Puppy

      I believe that Donald Trump has a heart for God? is that why Trump has already denounce Jesus as SAVIOR?? By saying the only way he can enter Heaven is by winning the election, you can-not buy or work your way into Heaven there is ONLY ONE Way to the KINGDOM Of Heaven and that is though Christ Jesus. in his OWN WORDS Trump said he has never need to seek repentance, but any man who claims to be in Christ & says he needs no forgiveness is a LIAR and cannot be trusted.. TRUMP doesn’t even,Fear GOD, makes it clear he leaves GOD out of it.

    • Puppy

      Really you believe Trump has a heart for God, where your proof?the man has already said in his own words he supports transgender Bathrooms, has no problems with gay-,marriage as the issue is closed, it has been decided and He is not going to re-visit,the issue, and sees no need to ask God for forgiveness, as TRUMP in his own words does not see himself as a sinner, and calls God a liar.

  • Amos Moses

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  • Liberal Elitist

    I applaud Mr. Sisneros’ courageous stand.

  • Kent Taylor

    Isn’t the reason for us as Christians, to share the gospel to as meany people as possible, to touch the hearts of all of us as sinners, that their is salvation at the cross, rather then set in the four walls of our place of worship and share nothing, or place ourselves above it all?

  • Emmanuel

    If Trump came out as atheist or agnostic, no issues with the church. Just another DC heathen. But, he came out as Christian with his little group of pharisees to support him. He labeled himself as Christian so he needs to be judged as that. He is not a Christian and he does not live under biblical principles.

    • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

      And how, exactly do you know Trump “Is not a Christian and does not live by Christian principles?”…The man gives more to charity in a day than you will in a life time?…The man has raised five beautiful children, built a successful business empire, doesn’t drink, do drugs or smokes…We can only judge one’s faith by the fruit they bare…How, then, did you arrive at such a conclusion based on Trump’s words and actions?…You sound a lot like another judgmental Pharisee to me…

      • james blue

        “The man gives more to charity in a day than you will in a life time”. There is a lot to suggest otherwise. Even his foundation appears to be a slush fund he doesn’t personally contribute into, in fact records show he has used it to pay his lost lawsuits.

        Out of interest what religion do you think president Obama belongs to?

        • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

          Trump’s personal charity is funded by no one other than Trump. He does not solicit money, but contributes his own money…Moreover, he has purchased homes for people, the black girl from America Idol whose family was murdered; Trump put her up for a year while she grieved. There are so many examples of Trump’s charity, which, like myself – and in accordance with scripture, he tries to keep private…Look at Eric Trump who runs one of the largest children’s charities on the planet…One could just keep going with examples of Trump charity, but I am quite sure you do not want to hear about them.

          As for “Obama’s religion,” I don’t think the man has a religion. Neither he, nor his wife and children have been baptized – so we know they aren’t Christian. Given his love for the homosexual, I’m quite sure he is not Muslims either, although he has demonstrated Islamic tendencies and a love for Islam. Which is only expected, given he was raised in Indonesia and went to an Islamic “Madhhab” (school) during his formative years…

          • james blue

            President Obama baptized in the early 1990s at Trinity United Church
            of Christ in Chicago. Malia, Sasha where baptized in the same church. I cannot find where first Lady Michelle was baptized but there is no
            reason to think she wasn’t as she was raised United Methodist Church
            The school he attended was not an “Islamic” school it was a public school

            I put links but it goes to auto moderation on this site so this is a repeat sans sources.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            No Christian, whether Barack Obama or others, can support same-sex marriages and abortion on demand and consider themselves “Christian” – as the Pope has made abundantly clear…Moreover, one cannot set in Jeremiah Wright’s congregation of hate and racism for 20 years and be a true Christian…

          • james blue

            Think you may need to look in a mirror.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            How did I move the goalposts? Obama supports same-sex marriages and abortions. That is a simple fact…Now one can call themselves a ‘Christian,” because being Christian is much more than just a label – for it is a lifestyle built on the teachings and commandments of Jesus Christ, the Apostles and 2000 years of Church tradition…If a man is truly reborn of the heart, he will live only to please God in all that he does – his thoughts, his actions. Consequently, when any man practices evil, i.e. abortion, homosexuality, or strongly advocates for sexual perversions to be fostered onto the people as societal norms – this man cannot be a “new man” as he practices and advocates things that are an “abomination unto the Lord”…Call himself whatever he will, no such man is a “Christian”…Read Matthew 7: 21-23 to witness what Christ says at the judgement seat to men who were Christians in name only – but not in deed…

          • james blue

            You started off saying he couldn’t be a Christian because he was not baptized. I pointed out you were wrong about that. (you really shouldn’t get your information from chain email/blog memes) You then go off on , “because he supports this or that” ( are you aware of Who Trump, the guy you believe, is?)

            If I was to start pointing out all Trumps beliefs I have no doubt you’d come up with a line about nobody being perfect etc. I note you ignore that Trump is okay with the gays.

            To be a Christian you have to accept Christ as your savior. If you have done that then you can be as imperfect as anything. Being a Christian is accepting Christ, not what church you belong to, not how perfectly you live your life and certainly not dependent on what political party.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Being baptized in Jeremiah Wright’s United Church of Christ (UCC) is much like being baptized in a Mormon Church – it is really no baptism at all because that Church has no Apostolic authority. It is a heretical church, or congregation really that teaches the many heretical views of Jeremiah Wright that are outside of the fundamental concepts found in the Nicea Creed…Evidently you know nothing about Apostolic authority, the foundation of the faith which is the Nicea Creed, etc? My bad, I didn’t realize I was talking to someone who accepted a heretical baptism by a racist who runs a racist church full of hate, a church that is outside of the one true Church of Jesus Christ…(you really shouldn’t get your information from chain email/blog memes). LOL!

            Trump’s personal beliefs, which you do not know, have nothing to do with his baptism as Trump attends a Church that adheres to the NIcea Creed and is fully under the authority of Apostolic succession…I don’t know what the man’s personal beliefs are, but he attends a congregation that is a part of the one true Church of Jesus Christ…

            You couldn’t be more wrong when you write “Being a Christian is accepting Christ, not what church you belong to.” Christ specifically gave “the keys to bind and loose” to His Church (Matt 16:19). And the one true Church of Jesus Christ made it very clear at the great ecumenical council at Nicea (325 A.D.) that to be a part of that one true Church one MUST adhere word for word, letter for letter to the NIcea Creed and Apostolic succession. Thus, the Church, with its authority it received directly from Jesus Christ bound the Christian from attending heretical churches – which there have been many since the Apostolic era. Thus, there is no salvation outside of the Church…That is, from the Christian perspective, the whole point of orthodoxy verses heresy that has been waged since the first century…All heretics are “Christian” in name only – read Matthew 7:23 to learn what Christ will say to these ‘Christian’ heretics at the great judgement…

            Obviously brother, you don’t understand Covenant Theology very well – if at all? Nor do you have a very good grasp on apostolic succession or the great importance of the Nicea Creed to the faith? Nor, I assume, have you ever even heard of the all-important “keys to bind and loose” and their importance in empowering the one true Church of Jesus Christ?…You would do well to study up on these very important subjects…For had you known these things, you wouldn’t have made the mistake of assuming a baptism by a heretical cleric at a heretical congregation will suffice at the Judgement Seat of Christ as Matthew 7:23 makes abundantly clear…

            So I stand by my original statement – “Barack Obama has not been baptized in the one true Church of Jesus Christ.” He has been baptized in a heretical church by a heretical cleric who has no Apostolic authority – so, in essence, he has not been baptized at all…

          • james blue

            Ah so now you have to be baptized by someone you approve of or a member of a church you approve of.

            By your standards apparently president Obama was correct, this is not a Christian nation or at least not just a Christian nation. By your standards there are only a small minority of Christians living here.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            It isn’t “my standard,” but rather Jesus Christ empowered His Church with the keys to bind and loose, and the Church, in response to a creeping heresy infecting the early Church, sat down a creed by which all true Christians must adhere, as it defines orthodox Christianity while, at the same time, defining heresy as well…If you don’t like it, and many so-called ‘Christians’ don’t, you need to take it up with our great King…I’m quite sure you will meet Him face-to-face one day, as we all will…

            So a heretic (Obama) claims America “is not a Christian nation” and that means something to you?…A man who advocates for grown men in dresses to be allowed to enter little girls locker rooms, a man who advocates for the murder of babies in their mother’s womb – you actually care what such a man thinks or says? LOL!

            “For many are called, but few are chosen,” so said Jesus Christ…So yea, given the number that were called, the number that actually love their King and follow His ways, and the majority that, like yourself and President Obama, believe their way is the better way, only a “small minority” here or anywhere else are true Christians as defined by the Nicea Creed and the Church Universal…

      • Emmanuel

        Richard, giving to charity has nothing, NOTHING, to do with your salvation and forgiveness of sins. He can give all his money to charity and not gain access to heaven and it can’t forgive not one sin. So, you might want to read up on how to get saved and why you give. I will not say a word about his kids because they are hands-off. But, you forget about his adulteries, fornication and remarriages. his wife’s nude pictures in gay magazines and his support for it. Now tell me where in the scriptures does adultery and fornication is seen as holy and right?
        Trump does not show any fruits of the spirit. he does not show any traits that even resemble biblical standard because he’s not a christian. He is only for himself. another question, do some research and look up his view on seeking Christ for forgiveness of sins.
        to conclude, read 1 Corinthians 5:12, if you even own a bible, and give me a quick explanation of this verse.

        • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

          I’m sorry, but you have been misled as charity and service is what the Christian has been called to do. Matthew 25:34-36 makes that truth abundantly clear.

          No where did I say charity alone can get one to Heaven? What I did say, or imply, is that charity and service are natural outpourings of the redeemed man. It is by this fruit that we judge a brother…Whereas a man who can only judge another man’s soul – as if he is even permitted to do such a thing – is a Pharisee who does not have love in his heart.

          I’m remarried, I too have committed adulteries and fornication – and much more. What does that matter if I have turned to Jesus, been baptized and now the fruit of my redeemed spirit is charity and good works?…Unlike Jesus – you want to judge a man for what he did years ago. Again, there is no love or forgiveness in your heart; and that is the complete opposite of what one would expect from a truly redeemed man?

          Melania’s “nude pictures” were made when she was a 20 year old immigrant from a third-world state to Paris. Donald did not even know her then…Moreover, as Melania has said, she is from Europe and Europeans do not view the body in the Puritanical fashion that so many Americans do. They view the body as a form of art – much the way King David did. And who are you to cast judgement on a 20 year old immigrant who was obviously taken advantage of 25 years ago?…Your puritanical – pharisaic attitude towards others is very unchristian and shows no love or mercy abides in your heart.

          It is you, brother, that should study 1st Corinthians 5:12 much closer. For who are you to judge Mr. Trump and his wife if they are outside the church like you claim?…”Do not judge, or you will be judged. For with the same judgment you pronounce, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.…(Matt 7:1)…You stand condemned by your own mouth – by the very standards you are attempting to judge Trump by. And where you have shown no forgiveness, none will be shown to you…”For judgment without mercy will be shown to anyone who has not been merciful. Mercy triumphs over judgment.” (James 2:13)

          • Emmanuel

            If they are outside of the church, no need to judge. move on and they are not Christians. So I was right. But Trump claims to be christian, has his pastors who give him counsel and speaks as if he is. So, he claims to be in the church so 1 Cor 5:12 does apply.
            But, we can’t allow sin in the body of Christ. We need to address it before it infects the body and kills the church. How many churches have fallen to the same sex marriage lie? If a person is not right and is in the church, we have the responsibility to address them. This “judge not movement” is an excuse to allow sin in the church without anyone saying anything. We can’t sit back and allow a person to redefine the church or make it ok to sin and the church be ok with it. We need to stand up for the church before we lose the church.
            As for you brother, I am really happy you have come to know Christ, been baptized and now you live a repented life. God’s grace and mercy is awesome to save horrible men like us.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            How were you right? You could only have been right if Trump was “outside of the church.” As you say yourself “But Trump claims to be christian,” so that puts him clearly in the church!…Thus, the only way 1st Corinthians 5:12 applies here is you are violating the clear teachings of scripture by trying to judge a member of the Church. Consequently, you stand condemned by your own words…

            “we can’t allow sin in the body of Christ?’ LOL! Every member of the Church for the past 2000 years, with the sole exception of Jesus Christ, was a sinner – and if you believe you are not currently sinning in some small way, you are delusional…”If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us” (1st John 1:8).

            For those within the Church who you don’t “feel is right,” you only have the right to come to them in private, with other Christian with you in an attempt to help the brother or sister…Simply claiming Trump isn’t a Christian publicly because “he has remarried” while attacking him personally is about as unchristian as one can be…

            Show me where I said “judge not?”…Moreover, please, show me where Trump is currently sinning to the point that you need to attack him publicly?…What gives you the right to attack our brother publicly in this fashion?…Nothing! No where in scripture or tradition are we instructed to act like you are acting…If there is any “sin in the church” here it is your prideful belief that you are without sin, and therefore have the right to attack a Christian brother publicly…

            As happy as you may be for me, I, on the other hand, can not say the same for you as I have seen none of the love and mercy I would expect from someone who claims to be a sinless?

          • Puppy

            He’s right by following scripture, who are you to violate the clear teachings,of Paul when he had the mind of Christ himself as it was given to him through revelation. We in the church are our brothers keepers. We need to hold each other to account those are Paul’s words not ours. it’s our, mission to judge those inside the Church and leave God to judge those,outside the church. So I guess in your words we should just ignore,God when he teaches to stay away from men like Trump. 1 Corinthians 5:11 and READ 1 Corinthians 5

            Since Trump claims to be Christian that means it’s our job to JUDGE Him,inside the Church and hold him accountable just as we are suppose to do with each other. Jesus tells us to judge with righteous judgement”. How do we go about doing this?What exactly is righteous judgment? The answer is simple. The WORD of GOD is our standard. Sharper than a double edge sword. it penetrates even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow; it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.” 2 Tim. 3:16 says, “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness”

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            We have every right, as Christians, to judge the actions of brothers and sisters within the body of Christ. What we do no have the right to do, is to cast aspersions on a Christian brother…To claim publicly that he “wants to have sex with his daughter” as you did above. That is sin on your part, thus making you the one in need for forgiveness – not Trump.

          • Puppy

            Please, show me where Trump is currently sinning? Trump is a known billionaire he could have killed a person and simply cover it up, when your that wealthy you can get away with murder and make many other problems go away. Ask for your question itself? Trump is a known liar,and,Bible makes it clear it’s a sin to lie, GOD HATES Liars, those,are,not MY WORDS but GOD’s. READ Proverbs Proverbs 12:22,and,READ Proverbs 6:16-19

            READ Proverbs 12:12, Trump is a known Liar how you do think GOD feels about that? How does GOD feel, when Trump denounces Jesus as Savior by saying the only way he can enter Heaven is by winning the election. When Christ JESUS made it clear he is the only way to Heaven. JOHN 4:16.

            How do you think, GOD Feels when TRUMP says it’s okay to grab woman by the pussy and that he would have sex with his own daughter or how he owns strip clubs and owns Casinos, puts God’s children in bondage or when Trump has conned lots of peoples out of money,.Are,we suppose to pretend Trump university doesn’t exist…Never,mind of these things matter right?

            How does GOD feel when Trump brags about many affairs w/ married women which is CALLED ADULTERY! Despite this Trump doesn’t care hey he said he doesn’t need to ask God for forgiveness, and it doesn’t matter to him when he calls womans pigs, mocks the disable,and,lacks,human empathy, integrity,moral character. respect.Guess this is all suppose to be a laughing matter to God..

            Never mind these things, who cares it doesn’t matter right? what God says doesn’t matter because in the mind of Trump supporters, he can do no wrong, they have convince themselves to believe a lie. Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            So you think “Trump COULD HAVE…” I hope Jesus doesn’t judge me by what I “COULD HAVE” done…LOL!

            And you are a sick f*ck to say publicly “Trump would have sex with his own daughter.” What kind of human-being are you?

            I had affairs 20 plus years ago – does that mean I too am going to Hell?…

            Like too many people on this thread, you have no idea what God wants, or what it takes to become a Christian…You are, in fact, a sick minded little freak with no love and mercy in his heart and a deviate mind full of filthy thoughts…

          • Puppy

            Isaiah 5:20, Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Trump White house Adviser Steve Bannon SAID in his OWN WORDS that Darkness is GOOD. Dick Cheney, Dark Vader, Satan,that’s power. it only helps us when they get it wring. When,they’re blind to who we are and what we are doing.. A KNOWN SATANIST

          • Emmanuel

            1. he is for gay marriage

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Where has Trump said “he is for gay marriage?” Trump will annihilate the Executive Order Barack Obama used to legalize same-sex marriages. But it has now went to the SCOTUS and is now the law of the land – that is all Trump said. The only way Trump can fix that is to appoint enough conservative justices to eventually overturn the law…So what benefit would it have been for Trump to campaign against a law he can’t change?…If he had applied your standard he wouldn’t have gotten elected and could’t change anything…

          • Emmanuel

            if he is not campaigning against it, then he is for it. He is sure speaking up against Roe vs Wade. How is one bad and not the other?

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Trump is now President of all Americas regardless of their race or sexual orientation. Moreover, Trump’s oath of office will be to uphold the laws of the land – not to pick and chose which one’s he agrees with as Barack Obama has done…Now Trump can – and will – try to overturn some laws that he disagrees with, like same-sex marriages, abortion, etc. But until he changes them they are the law of the land, and he will take an oath to uphold those very laws

          • Emmanuel

            I agree with you, he needs to uphold the current laws and try to reverse the ones he wants. But, he is speaking out against one with no issues and is quiet about another and they are both equally sinful. As an alleged Christian, how is that? Will Trump protect the church? we shall see soon

        • Scott Davenport

          My dad used to call guys like you a sanctimonious son of a b$#ch….you do realize you’re sinning simply by posting your judgemental thoughts on President Elect Trump in this forum? We are all sinners, Mr. Holier than thou, and you appear to be a big’un… I’m got a feeling you don’t hold a candle to Donald’s graciousness…

          • Emmanuel

            Scott, you need to read the bible. I will never judge an atheist or a non-believer but we have the right and the responsibility to judge those in church with love to make them see their sin. If you attend a church that preaches don’t judge, love everyone, sermons that make you feel good and they applaud sin, then you go right ahead. But, don’t say a word against the churches that convict the sinner and make people uncomfortable because they sin. I will end with this; how did Jesus treat the pharisees and his own disciples compared to the sick and lost?

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Please, don’t compare yourself to Jesus…As Scott said, you are “a sanctimonious son of a b$#ch.”…Understand this heathen – we have no right to “judge” anyone! That is reserved for our great Judge alone. What we do have the right to do is to CORRECT a brother if we see him sinning in an attempt to bring him back into the faith. Since you are not speaking personally with Mr. Trump, you cannot be correcting him in private…Moreover, by repeating vile lies about him you are proving yourself to be no better than the Father of Lies…

          • Emmanuel

            You call it correct and others and the bible call it judge.
            Trump has publicly supported same sex marriage. How is that holy and right?

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Well said Scott…

        • Puppy

          Agreed Buddy!

      • eassa

        LOL…. babe what qualifies a person as a believer in your book is far from what is found in God’s Word.
        It might be a good idea for you to dust off your Bible and spend time…Time…TIME!!! in it!

        • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

          It is really easy to understand “what qualifies a person as a believer” – “Therefore everyone who confesses Me before men, I will also confess him before My Father in heaven” (Matt 10:32)…I’ve personally heard Trump confess Christ – as have thousands as he did it on TV during a prayer session with Evangelical preachers…If that wasn’t enough, then you need to take that up with Jesus since He set the standard…By the way, “Babe,” since you are such a self-professed biblical scholar, what, in your opinion, does it take to be a member of the Church? Because Christ said a public confession was enough…

    • Puppy

      Despite all this, church is now under a powerful delusion and chooses to believe a lie 2 Thessalonians 2:11. They don’t even see what’s coming and have no idea they just made their bed with the devil. I think Trump will make Obama look like a Saint which I thought would be impossible but it’s going to get real bad before Christ returns. it won’t be long,before Trump declares war on the church as he is very unstable.

      • Emmanuel

        Great verse and yes. The christian Trump supporters will sit there confused and lost.

      • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

        What is “the great lie” of 2nd Thess 2:11?…That Trump would be president, or claim to be a Christian? LOL! You’re funny – and delusional…The “great lie,” so you will know in the future, is the Gnostic lie that Jesus Christ is a mere man and not God incarnate…And the heretical Gnostics of today are teaching that same lie to their followers just like their Gnostic ancestors did in the first century. Just look at what Muslims, Jews, Mormons and Jehovah Witnesses teach about the nature of Jesus Christ…Between Emmanuel and yourself Puppy – it is guys like you who give Christianity a bad name…

  • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

    So Barack Obama was “biblically qualified?” What about the most corrupt politician in American history and habitual liar Hillary Clinton?…And lets not forget, Donald Trump is the only modern politician I have ever heard that even mentioned – much less promised to repeal the Johnson Amendment which has been responsible for muzzling the Church in America from speaking out in the public square…Moreover, given that Trump is pro-life, and has promised to appoint pro-life justices, he will probably be responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade one day in the future…So I would have to say that, rather being a Christian looking out for christian values, Art Sisneros is another bought and paid for politician who is owned by George Soros and the Clinton Foundation?…

    • zeddicuskotor

      So you’re illiterate.

      • Amos Moses

        yeah … that refutes everything ………..

        • zeddicuskotor

          Everything you said is supported by literally zero evidence.

          • Amos Moses

            supported by all kinds of evidence ….. that you want to ignore ……..

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Well, let’s look at what I did say, and the evidence behind it:

            1) Hillary Clinton is a career criminal and habitual liar…FBI Director Comey testified before Congress that the woman lied literally thousands of time…

            2) Donald Trump promise to repeal the Johnson Amendment…He has made that promise so many times on the campaign trail that I need not repeat it here.

            3) Trump, if he sets 2 to 3 pro-life Supreme Court Justices, will ultimately be responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade…You can bet your bottom dollar that if he sets just two justices, and he has to set one the minute he takes the oath of office, Roe v. Wade will most assuredly be overturned by a conservative SCOTUS as it is the most ungodly ruling ever made by SCOTUS.

            So it looks like every claim I made is, indeed, supported by an avalanche of evidence…You, apparently, are just too “ignorant” (which is the word you used to describe me) to know the facts…

          • zeddicuskotor

            Exactly. Nothing you said was true. You’re just repeating lies and wishes.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            I pretty much broke it down for you, and your mindless comeback was nothing more than another ad hominem attack, i.e. “repeating lies and wishes.” A few facts from you to help buttress your silly claims would be nice. As there are no facts you can elude to, that pretty much says all that needs to be said about your argument. LOL!

          • zeddicuskotor

            You are repeating lies and wishes. You wish that Trump is going to appoint a forced birther judge. You don’t actually know that as fact. Especially with someone as mentally unfit for office as Trump is.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Trump claimed he would appoint pro-life judges ( what, exactly, is “a forced birther judge? LOL!)…And how, exactly, is Trump “mentally unfit?” More ad hominems from you…I guess opinions and ad hominem attacks is all you have…Typical for a godless progressive…

          • zeddicuskotor

            Trump claims a lot of things. He also lies. A lot. Have you been paying even the slightest bit of attention to this?

            None of this actually matters, anywho. Trump is already committing impeachable offenses and he hasn’t even been sworn in yet. He’s going to be politically isolated within a month.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You said that all politicians lie and that you didn’t mind how much Hillary lied because it was the norm. Have you been paying even the slightest bit of attention to what you write?

          • wandakate

            ALL politician LIE through their teeth to get what “they” want. They want more money, more power, a more opulent lifestyle. Show me a politician that doesn’t lie, and I will give you an acre of land on my far-away-island of “make-believe”.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Maybe not all. I’ve known some decent politicians. That said, just because something might be the norm doesn’t mean we should excuse it in others.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Another opinion…Show me where Trump has lied?

            “Impeachable offenses?” Name one…

            You Progressives are despicable people…Hoping, praying the man fails even before he is sworn in simply because he is a Republican…Evidently eight years of a failed Democrat presidency wasn’t enough for you?

          • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

            Hey, dude, he has flip flopped on almost every issue. And day he if for abortion, the next he’s not. One day he said he’ll deport all immigrants, the next he says 3 million criminals, and the list goes on and on.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Thanks for the heads up…He looks like a confused pup…

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You bragged about Hillary being a liar. Who are you to discuss mental unfitness?

          • ShemSilber

            A short piece of counsel for you, my friend, from Revelation 3:18: “…anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see,” in the Name of the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) our Redeemer, the righteous Judge before whom NO lie will stand, omein.

          • zeddicuskotor

            And that’s just gibberish.

          • ShemSilber

            You will FIND OUT what gibberish it is when you stand before the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) at the White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11-15) and the shame of your nakedness appears and all your secrets become known. May it be that you commit to Him before that time so that your sins are covered by His blood of atonement and you are assured of everlasting life by His resurrection. One way or the other, you will find out that it’s NOT gibberish. HOW you find out is YOUR CHOICE, in the Name of the Master Yahushua, omein.

          • zeddicuskotor

            And more gibberish plus juvenile threats. Are you a child?

          • ShemSilber

            As you will find out WHEN you know the truth, what I wrote was neither gibberish nor childish threats, but facts of life. If we ignore the salvation that is available through the Master Yahushua, then we have to pay the price for our own sins, per Romans 3:23 and 6:23, for starters. You can avert damnation, but if you choose not to, the Master Yahushua will not remove your freedom of choice from you. It’s your choice, life on the one hand, or the second death, from which there is no resurrection. Your choice, in the Name of the Master Yahushua, omein.

          • zeddicuskotor

            And more juvenile threats. If you need to submit to extortion to win an argument, then you’re already too far gone to actually be a decent human being.

          • ShemSilber

            Hey, if I see someone about to step in front of a speeding freight train and I say, “Don’t go on those tracks!” is that childish or is it being a decent human being? The danger you and people like you face are stepping into is worse than any freight, and I’m saying “Don’t go there, so you won’t have to suffer the second death!” It is up to each individual to acknowledge that we need the Redeemer who gave His life to pay the debt we owe for our sins.

            Nevertheless, if it is as it seems, your choice is to throw yourself on the garbage heap. That’s between you and the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus). He gives you the choice, and He will not remove your freedom of choice. So long.

          • zeddicuskotor

            Which is presupposing the existence of a train. A proper analogy is you yelling, “believe the exact same way I do or I’ll cut ya!”.

          • ShemSilber

            NO WAY! I won’t do a thing, you’ll do it all to yourself by your own choices, the same as any other person, either for good or for bad. Nothing that I’ve said is a threat to you or anyone else, but rather a warning that you should open your eyes to the sacrifice that the Master Yahushua made for you, in order to cover your sins and give you everlasting life. Of course, if you refuse it, He won’t give it to you, because He won’t mess with your freedom of choice. That’s the Master Yahushua’s word to you, not mine. If you don’t believe it, that’s your choice not to believe it, and the consequences are also your own, omein.

          • zeddicuskotor

            You’re trying to threaten me with a train when there’s no train nearby. It’s a shallow threat made by someone profoundly clueless about his surroundings.

          • ShemSilber

            I’m not threatening you with anything. You don’t need my permission to continue in your blind ignorance of the need of all of us for the Redeemer to save us from our transgressions and for everlasting life, but WHEN you hit the wall, or fall in the ditch, or whatever, maybe you will remember to call out to the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) for help. It’s up to you, says the Master Yahushua, omein.

          • zeddicuskotor

            You are.

            “If we ignore the salvation that is available through the Master Yahushua, then we have to pay the price for our own sins” – you.

            Isn’t lying a sin?

          • ShemSilber

            That is not a threat, but a simple statement of fact. If you insist on it, you will pay your own debt. I’m not the collection agency. You’ll find that out later. Go fly a kite in the meantime, until you find out who the liar is in this conversation. You will learn that Azazel, the father of lies, is lousy company.

          • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

            Donald Trump is also a career criminal, 75 charges pending against him. Trump is notorious for saying, “if you tell people something enough, they’ll believe it.” This shows that he is a liar and a fraud.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Trump is facing CIVIL SUITS which are a totally different thing than “charges” as in criminal charges…LOL!

            And the Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels was famous for saying “If you tell a lie often enough, people will begin to believe it.” LOL…Some of you people are funny…Learn some real history brother – please!…

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            All you do is personally attack people. Do you not have any facts or arguments?

          • zeddicuskotor

            Why bother with people that don’t know how to argue? You, being a excellent example.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            You keep using opinions and ad hominems to argue with people – then you have the gaul to tell Guest he “doesn’t know how to argue” (the correct word would have been “debate”)?…Dude – you are a clown, grow up…

          • zeddicuskotor

            Again with misusing the ad hominem. I already told you why that doesn’t apply. Try to keep up.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Dude, you still play with light sabers and nerf guns. You collect comic books. You have no clue what ad hominem attacks are. Stick to what you do know – engineering perhaps?

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            “Why bother with people that don’t know how to argue” is a direct quote of your’s…That is an ad hominem attack…Grow up and learn some English…

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Dude, you’ve been systematically misusing all logical debate terms. 🙂

          • zeddicuskotor

            Not my fault you cannot keep up.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            So you just keep coming here under different names?

          • zeddicuskotor

            Exactly, another excellent example of you not having a argument.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You should know that you’re easily identifiable. Remember when you claimed to be a 29 year old millennial with 2 degrees who was an atheist? And said that Trump could never win the election? Remember how that turned out? 🙂

      • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

        Nice ad hominem attack…Now go Google “ad hominem” so you’ll know what I just accused you of smart guy…

        • zeddicuskotor

          That isn’t a ad hominem. In order for it to be so I would have had to ignore his argument and attack him personally. That requires there to be a logical argument to be in place first for me to ignore, something that this illiterate poster doesn’t have.

          At best that was mindless parrot vomit.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            By saying “You’re just repeating lies and wishes” that is a ad hominem attack silly. I told you to Google the word before committing…LOL!

          • zeddicuskotor

            When you are willing to present a actual argument with citations and logic, then I’ll be more than happy to tear it to shreds. Until then, this is just a exercise in know nothings thinking that they know something.

            You don’t.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            You wouldn’t know “logic” if it slapped you in the face…As for “citations,” I don’t need them…You, on the other hand do as all you have is an braindead opinion or an ad hominem. If you want a citation, Google it for yourself…And you couldn’t – and haven’t – “tear” any argument I put forth “to shreds” LOL!…You obviously aren’t very bright, but somehow you are full of pride and bluster? How does that happen?…You must be too damn dumb to even know you are dumb?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You haven’t actually used an actual argument with citations and logic. You know we teach this kids in the first week of their first year of philosophy. You’re an engineer who plays with nerf guns and sabers. You really don’t know about this stuff so stop pretending you’re an expert and start learning from those who do know – like Richard.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Just as you don’t know what false equivalency means so, too, do you not know what an ad hominem attack is.

          • zeddicuskotor

            Exactly. You cannot refute my point.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You don’t have one.

          • zeddicuskotor

            That my point is that you don’t have one. Exactly.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Thanks for admitting you’re here to agitate and not to discuss.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            What point” You haven’t made a point all night – just expressed opinions and attacked everyone personally…LOL! You Progressives are funny at times though…

          • zeddicuskotor

            My point is that none of you have any points. Just blather. I cannot bother to refute anything you are saying because there’s nothing to refute. You’ll just blather on like this.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            I’ve given you many specifics – even reposted some of those specifics to try to help you out…Oh! “I cannot bother to refute anything you are saying because there’s nothing to refute” is an ad hominem since it is untrue…Evidently you wouldn’t know “a point” if it slapped you in the face. Like I previously said, take some time to learn some English, because you are coming across as really ignorant pal…

          • Oboehner

            Trollin’ trollin’ trollin’

          • zeddicuskotor

            And you still have nothing to offer…

    • ShemSilber

      Pharaoh Barry was not “biblically qualified,” and neither was his erstwhile successor to the garbage agenda of the demoniac-rat party, Bonnie-&-Clyde-on-steroids Clinton, for their third term, which would have been in effect Pharaoh Barry’s third term also.

      Donald Trump isn’t perfect, for he’s a human being, but at the least he is patriotic and wants what is good for the country and for the people. We have had enough of destructive policies over the last 20 or so years, especially the last 8. Almighty Yahuwah heard our prayers for mercy and relief and brought Donald Trump to the top, and if that’s not biblically qualified then I don’t know what is. May He also put the kabosh on all their efforts to undo this nomination and give the TRUMP-PENCE team 8 years, which still won’t be enough to undo all the damage, but maybe some of it.

      What we really need and is coming in but a few short years, I’m sure, is the return of the Messiah Yahushua (Lord Jesus) our Redeemer to return to set His throne in Jerusalem, ISRAEL (Isaiah 2:1-4; Micah 4:1-4), from where peace on earth will begin, and He will spread it worldwide. HalleluYAH and omein!

      • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

        According to scripture – the Second Coming is always at a minimum of seven years away…It will remain that way until the next eschatological event takes place – the War of Gog and Magog when an Islamic coalition force led by Turkey invades Israel. One the Antichrist signs a the seven year peace treaty spoken of by the prophet Daniel, then the Second Coming will take place seven years from that day…That is when the eschatological time clock starts moving again – when Gog invades Israel…

        • ShemSilber

          Once that particular “peace” agreement between the State of Israel and the beast is signed, we apparently have 7 years left of these Dark Ages. Midway through it, the beast breaks the covenant, and that’s the same time that the two witnesses of Revelation 11 begin their testimony and the signs that they will show to the world, when no one will be able to kill them for 3 & 1/2 years, but they will die at the end of those years, and lay in the street of Jerusalem 3 & 1/2 days, when the Master will return on the Feast of Trumpets, the 1st day of the 7th month on the Master Yahushua’s sky calendar (which is not in agreement with the rabbinic Jewish calendar). That’s why He says we don’t know the day or the hour, because we don’t count the years the same way He does.

          When the two witnesses have lain in the street for that time, and they are celebrating, dancing and passing out candies over their death, they will hear the returning Messiah call, “Come up here,” and they will join the saints as they come by the tens of thousands of the saints (see the quote from Enoch 1:9 at Jude, the 14th & 15th verses).

          There is much of the Apostolic Writings, the Renewed Covenant (“New Testament” that neither replaces nor contradicts the “Old Testament”) that quotes or refers to Enoch’s writings. It might be worth your while to get a copy.

          May we all find our shalom in the Master Yahushua, omein.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Let me correct you, we do not know the exact day or the hour of His coming (Matt 24:36), not because He is using some supper secret spiritual calendar that no man knows, including the rabbis, but because of His promise to the Church – the “elect” – to “cut short” the Great Tribulation Period (Matt 24:22)…

            The Antichrist will be so efficient in his killing of the Saints that if Christ doesn’t come when He does, “no flesh [of the Church] would be saved alive” (v. 22). This forces Christ to return just short of the end of the three-and-one-half years of the Great Tribulation Period. Which is the second half, or second three-an-one-half year mark of Daniel’s 70th Week, which is also running simultaneously. The eschatological period known as Daniel’s 70th Week, of course, is only concerned with Israel and the Jews (Dan 9:24), whereas the Great Tribulation Period is only concerned with the Church and her Saints (Matt 24:22).

            This is the moment of the rapture – the moment Christ keeps His promise to His Church and “cuts short” the days of the Great Tribulation Period. This, unlike the unbiblical pre-tribulation rapture so many within the Evangelical Church teach and anticipate, the actual rapture event is actually a Pre-Wrath rapture event…Pre-wrath only because Christ’s coming ends both Daniel’s 70th Week, which has now ran its seven year course, and the Great Tribulation Period which has also ran its three-and-one-half year course, minus the couple months that Christ was forced to appear early due to His promise to His Church. With the end of the two eschatological time periods known as Daniel’s 70th Week and the Great Tribulation Period, the Day of the Lord’s Wrath begins. We see this clearly foretold in many books of both the Tannak and the New Testament, but primarily in the Book of Revelation with the opening of the sixth seal of chapter 6, verses 21-14 – the cosmic disturbances camouflage the rapture of what few Christians are alive at that moment (as the tribulation period will annihilate the vast majority of Christian through martyrdom)…

          • ShemSilber

            I beg your pardon, for it is not a “spiritual calendar” but quite physical, regulated by the sun and the stars that Almighty Yahuwah placed in the heavens for the purpose of indicating to us signs, seasons (when to celebrate His feasts), days, and years, per Genesis 1:14-19. Notice in that reference there is no actual mention of the moon. It is not mentioned in the Hebrew text, but due to man-made tradition the rabbis imply it by saying that Elohim “also” made the stars. There is no “also” in the Hebrew, only that Elohim “assigned” the two lights (for they were already created), the greater light, the sun, to rule the day, and the lesser light, the stars, to rule the night.

            Maybe you would like to google “Zadokite Calendar” in order to learn more about it, so you could see that it’s not such a big secret, but some FEW are learning about it. You will find several articles there. It’s a heavy study that will take a lot of time, so maybe you will have enough time before the Second Coming to learn about it, before the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) Himself explains it all to us. We are still learning, too, you know.

            In Matthew 24:22, it says that if those days were not shortened there would be NO flesh saved alive, and no mention of the churches, but what the enemy, the one we call Satan the devil, who is going about now as Allah, the false elohim of Islam, but has many aliases. He wants to leave the Master Yahushua only a burnt-out cinder of the earth for Him to rule, contrary to the prophecy of Isaiah 2:1-4 and Micah 4:1-4, that He will rule from Jerusalem, ISRAEL, administering peace to the whole earth. As you see, that will not be allowed.

            One more thing before I go. Please do not be disappointed when there is no “rapture,” but, as the Apostle Paul describes in 1Thessalonians 4, only a resurrection of the dead who are saved and a changing of those who are still alive at the Master’s return.

            And yes, that resurrection will be on the day that the Master returns, the Feast of Trumpets of whatever year that He descends to the Mount of Olives with His saints to END these Dark Ages and begin the Age to Come, wherein He removes all evil from the face of the earth and makes it a perfectly habitable place to live.

            We will, finally, have peace on earth. HalleluYAH and omein!

          • ShemSilber

            This is a second submission of a post, the first of which had a URL requiring approval. If it’s approved, you’ll have the URL, but here’s what I am submitting:

            I beg your pardon, for it is not a “spiritual calendar” but quite physical, regulated by the sun and the stars that Almighty Yahuwah placed in the heavens for the purpose of indicating to us signs, seasons (when to celebrate His feasts), days, and years, per Genesis 1:14-19. Notice in that reference there is no actual mention of the moon. It is not mentioned in the Hebrew text, but due to man-made tradition the rabbis imply it by saying that Elohim “also” made the stars. There is no “also” in the Hebrew, only that Elohim “assigned” the two lights (for they were already created), the greater light, the sun, to rule the day, and the lesser light, the stars, to rule the night.

            Maybe you would like to look up my source, since I do not speak on my own, but with Almighty Yahuwah’s backing: Moshe Yoseph Koniuchowsky, of whom you will find both negative and positive, as with any leaders, but he is a true servant of the Master. That is, if you want to learn more about it, so you could see that it’s not such a big secret, but some FEW are learning about it. You will find several articles there. It’s a heavy study that will take a lot of time, so maybe you will have enough time before the Second Coming to learn about it, before the Master Yahushua (Lord Jesus) Himself explains it all to us. We are still learning, too, you know.

            In Matthew 24:22, it says that if those days were not shortened there would be NO flesh saved alive, and no mention of the churches, but what the enemy wants to leave the Master Yahushua is only a burnt-out cinder of the earth for Him to rule, contrary to the prophecy of Isaiah 2:1-4 and Micah 4:1-4, that He will rule from Jerusalem, ISRAEL, administering peace to the whole earth. As you see, that will not be allowed. As you know, that enemy is the one we call Satan the devil, who is going about now as Allah, the false elohim of Islam, but has many aliases. He is angry over the impending carry-out of his sentence to Gei-Hinnom, the Lake of Fire made for him and the rest of the demons (Matthew 25:41).

            One more thing before I go. Please do not be disappointed when there is no “rapture,” but, as the Apostle Paul describes in 1Thessalonians 4, only a resurrection of the dead who are saved, followed by a changing of those who are still alive at the Master’s return.

            And yes, that resurrection will be on the day that the Master returns, the Feast of Trumpets of whatever year that He descends to the Mount of Olives with His saints (Acts 1:6-11; Zechariah 14:4) to END these Dark Ages and begin the Age to Come, wherein He removes all evil from the face of the earth and makes it a perfectly habitable place to live.
            We will, finally, have peace on earth. HalleluYAH and omein!

          • LaVada Triesch

            Thank you, ShemSilber…you did a much better job than I could have! I agreed with Richard’s first statements regarding Obama/HIllary, etc. But not necessarily his eschatological assessments.

            I have reservations with Art Cisneros’ decision as I am suspicious that he is making his decisions based on an incorrect theology. I don’t know for a fact, but believe that most likely he does not keep the Sabbath or the Feasts of the LORD, etc. And yet, he says that “God and His Word do not change.”

            And, finally, the reference to “not knowing the day or the hour” is, I believe as you intimated, due to the fact the Feast of Trumpets is on the first day of the month (7th month) and it is hard to ‘know the day or the hour’ when the sighting of the moon is what makes that determination.

            I will look up your source, “Moshe Joseph Koniuchowsky.”

          • ShemSilber

            You are more than welcome, Sister LaVada. The Master has His hand out to help all those who have an open mind to receive His truth, and may He bless you in so doing, omein.

    • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

      Is Trump anti-abortion? Look at his past statements and you’ll find not.

      • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

        Stop using 20 – 30 year old statements Trump made, and start hearing what he says today…Many people were pro-abortion 20, 30 years ago and for various reasons are not today. I guess you haven’t changed your mind on any subject at all for the past 20 to 30 years? LOL! …I don’t know if you are being unrealistic, or you just didn’t know you were reading quotes from 20 to 30 years ago?…Neither, however, is excusable given we live in the age of the internet…

        • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

          Actually some of these arguments are only 1-2 years old. In 2015 Trump made it clear he was pro choice, so it becomes clear that someone hasn’t been doing their homework, and that is you.

          • wandakate

            Or perhaps its “Fake News” from the media. They do that ALOT these days, they mess up a lot and print much that isn’t truth.

          • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

            Or maybe you should go through the many videos that are online and watch it for yourself.

        • Becky

          His actions speak loudly. Recently, Trump attended the “apostate” PCUSA church and showed his support of a church that endorses abortions and same-sex marriage. Trumps reinforcement of such matters (homosexuality, abortion, etc) are indeed an affront towards Almighty God and are meant to hurt God’s people. The secular political system belongs to the world and the world belongs to Satan (John 12:31).

          “Can two walk together, unless they are agreed?” Amos 3:3

          • wandakate

            Where are “GODLY” Presidents? Were the Bush’s fit in that capacity? How bout Bill Clinton, Barack Obama? Was Hillary fit to be a President? Did she meet all those “GODLY” qualifications? I think NOT!
            You realize that today’s people are NOT concerned about what the Bible told us about Godly leaders. What is outlined in the Bible is old fashioned-outdated history to “most” of today’s voting age citizens, therefore they are Worldly, they are NOT Godly and this is satan’s world right now. People wanted somebody (anybody) regardless of their past adventures to be in the White House b/c they wanted a change from the run of the mill way of doing things in the government and they (that voted) for Trump think that he’s going to bring change.
            My take on all of it is ACTIONS ARE LOUDER THAN WORDS! When we see “the Donald” DOING something other than merely talking then we will see “change”. He needs to “walk his talk” and prove that he’s a man of integrity and of his word…People weren’t voting for the “Preacher of the Nation”, or “The Most Godly President” ever. They apparently just wanted “change” and to make America somewhat better than it has been in the past. Now, whether that happens or not is still to be known. At this point we can only pray and hope we will see better days ahead but don’t count your chickens until they hatch…He is granted a “business man” however IF (I said if) he is surrounded with the right intelligent people that are knowledgeable about government and worldly affairs and have some common sense and wisdom then he may do us good, otherwise it’s business as usual.

  • zeddicuskotor

    This elector needs to be reminded of article VI.

    • james blue

      Had he not resigned so he could be replaced I would agree, but he did the right thing in resigning and I respect his views.

      • zeddicuskotor

        The right thing would be electing the candidate that actually won the popular vote.

        • james blue

          I’m with you there regardless of who that candidate is. I lose anyway because there is no chance an actual libertarian would ever win. However I’m commenting on the system we have, not the one I’d like it to be.

          • zeddicuskotor

            That’s a good thing. Libertarians are only good for destroying countries. We clearly need progressive leadership if we are to move forward.

  • Dan Jones

    So true… It’s funny but if Trump had been the DNC candidate when all the junk came out right before the election the evangelicals would have been SCREAMING that Trump was unfit due to his character… but since he was there man they decided to “overlook” his character… hypocrites

    • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

      Evangelicals understand forgiveness, something you and too many on this thread don’t seem to know at all?..

      • Dan Jones

        Unforgiveness? So where is their forgiveness for Clinton? Castro? Obama?

        • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

          Why should I forgive Castro for being a brutal dictator who was a self professed atheist up till the day he died? Castro is now in the realm where only Jesus Christ’s forgiveness matters, not mine…As for Clinton and Obama, as long as they advocate for abortions during the third trimester – or anytime for that matter, same-sex marriages, etc where is forgiveness warranted?…I see nothing in their actions or words that would even hint at a new being…So I leave them to God to judge…I simply do not follow them or the particular political ideology they espouse. In fact I fight against it any chance I get…I allow God to sort the rest out…

  • james blue

    I understand why Christians could not get behind Clinton, but for the life of me I cannot understand why they are behind Trump.
    The guy IMO did the right thing, If your conscience won’t allow you to carry out the task you are chosen to do in good faith you should step aside.

    • zeddicuskotor

      The thing about conservative christians, that us progressives have understood for years, is that they don’t actually have any real values. The only thing they value is power, and they rightfully understood that they could only get that power by backing a fascist authoritarian like Trump.

      • Amos Moses

        LOL!!!!!! …… WOW ………. so HRC is helping the Greens challenge against Trump in certain states because she ………. what ….. is just a wonderful person and does not desire the exact same power ………. go down to the corner check cashing establishment and get a reality check and cash it …….

        • zeddicuskotor

          Say hello to false equivalency, everyone.

          • Amos Moses

            again …. that refutes everything ………. NOT ……

          • zeddicuskotor

            You’re equating the desire for power incorrectly.

          • Amos Moses

            tell me ….. who spends MILLIONS of $$$ to get “elected” to a job that pays maybe 2-3 million …… it aint the money they all want ….. and the first disqualification for any office ought to be the desire to hold it ……………

          • zeddicuskotor

            Yep, that false equivalency.

          • Trilemma

            Uh oh, sounds like a catch 22.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            That’s not what false equivalency means.

      • Amos Moses

        And Dems now want to invoke the 25th amendment because they want what …..

        Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives ***** their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, ****** the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

        do you ever smell what you shovel …………

      • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Yes, because having the most pro-life platform is so ungodly. /sarc

        • zeddicuskotor

          Only if you assume that every religious person in America is pro life. So that’s a terrible argument you have there.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Of course every godly person is pro-life. To be otherwise is to be ungodly.

          • zeddicuskotor

            Which is a no true scotsmen fallacy. Good job.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            No it isn’t. No true Scotsman only applies if you’ve changed the definition which is your forte.

          • zeddicuskotor

            Yes it is. You are declassifying million of religious people because they don’t fit your specific idea of a religious person. That’s no true scotsmen.

            The fun thing about your gibberish is that you are not even in a majority. The majority of America, and thus the majority of religious people, are pro choice, not forced birthers.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I spoke of being godly not of being religious.

  • Vociferous1

    Yeah, he must of skiped over Romans 13:1–2
    “Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.”

  • dolly

    Wolf in sheeps clothing ,one question how can you not ? evil movies around and among the Churches ,I am so sad many are a sleep at the switch thinking there doing God a grate favor.

  • Harry Oh!

    Romans 13:1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Now who’s not Biblically qualified Sisneros?

    • zeddicuskotor

      And?

  • Jonathan Israel

    Trump said he was a Christian and then went around the nation with his sons saying it was normal locker room speech to justify how he spoke about grabbing woman by the vagina. The athletes at the USA’s largest Christian university disagreed with him.

    Scripture instructs Christians to have speech that can not be condemned.

    Donald said he was going to appoint an independent investigation into Hillary’s criminal lies about her illegal top secret e-mails. Now that he won, Donald says Hillary is great people and we all owe her a great debt.

    Donald said he is going to unite all religions and all beliefs.

    Scripture says Jesus is the only way to the Father, the only way to be forgiven and the only way to be saved.

    Donald said he will stand with the sexual perverts, LGBTQ agenda, against ALL opposed to their lifestyle.

    God is opposed to sexual deviant sinful lifestyles and so are His true followers.

    Scripture confirms Donald is a liar and must repent and must be born again to enter God’s Kingdom.

    3 John, “Anyone who does what is good is from God. Anyone who does what is evil has not seen God.”

    • Puppy

      Amen Amen!!

    • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

      It is “normal locker room speech to justify how he spoke about grabbing woman by the vagina.” And to say other wise means you either have never been in a locker room hanging out with men, or, and this is more likely, you are simply a liar…Because all men have said such things about women at one time or another – and all women have said similar things about men…So you are either a freak or a liar…

  • http://rapture-resource.org/ Terry

    Not only are we NOT voting for a pastor, anyone that has any sence in rightly dividing knows that the scriptures that are quoted in the article are all about ISRAEL and have NOTHING to do with the Church.

  • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

    If the presidency went by “Biblically Qualified” NOBODY would be president!!! hahaha ….Some people are so SMART that they don’t know anything.

    • eassa

      Not true. Just not true.

      • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

        Which part?

        • eassa

          Owl, it is not true that “If the presidency went by “Biblically Qualified” NOBODY would be president”. That is not at all factual.

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Yes it is factual… So you believe that a PREACHER must be a president?

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Every President in the history of America has either been a Christian or at least professed to be a Christian. Even Barack Obama and Bill Clinton pretended to be Christians…Even the habitual liar Hillary Clinton professed to being a Christian. So historical fact has proven you wrong GhostOwl…

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Richard…LOL Obama or George Bush a christian, Bush was a member of the skulls and Obama is part of the muslim brotherhood????? Are you serious?

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            I said every President has PROFESSED being a Christian – I never said all were. Try to comprehend what a man wrights, and not what you think he said..

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Richard… PROFESSING to be christian doesn’t mean he’s “BIBLICAL QUALIFIED”. I don’t think you know what your talking about. Try to know what you mean before you reply on a post, so you don’t confuse others or even yourself.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            “Biblically qualified” to rule comes from God…”Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which is from God. The authorities that exist have been appointed by God. Consequently, the one who resists authority is opposing what God has set in place, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.…” (Romans 13:1)…Thus, it most certainly is God’s will that Donald Trump rule America. And for you to oppose Trump’s rule is to oppose the will of God…In my book that is called “a sin.” So it is I who knows exactly what I am talking about – as my support for Trump is in agreement with the will of God according to St. Paul…You, however, who stand in clear opposition to Trump stand condemned by St Paul as also opposing the clear will of God…Maybe, then, it is you who should take your own advice and “Try to know what you mean before you reply on a post, so you don’t confuse others or even yourself”…

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Richard… i think you are coocoo for coaco puffs… I voted for Trump and supported him from day 1… Stop confusing yourself.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            As I said, I have defended Trump for two days, the fact that you haven’t picked up on that makes one want to question your ability to comprehend what you read?

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Richard… BTW… learn how to spell.. WRIGHTS is spelled “WRITES”. Good day sir!

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            I’m multitasking here – multiple conversation going online while I run a company all at the same time. But thanks for the advice, and for letting all of us know you are an internet Nazi…

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            LOL internet Nazi!!! smh

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            Yea – an internet Nazi…I obviously know how to spell and construct grammatically correct sentences. Thus, you took a cheap shot because you saw a misspelled word, rather than the typo or a simple mistake it was – as I said, that is a cheap shot which only makes you look like an “Internet Nazi”…I could have used more colorful wording to describe you, but I thought I would keep it clean…

          • https://www.facebook.com/dailyjournalofnews/ GhostOwl

            Richard… you must be a sore loser since your Hillary Clinton lost. They said the same thing about Trump. Go back to your multitasking and find you a good dictionary.

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            After two days of conversing you think I am a Hillary supporter?…As a conservative Christian I’ve made my support of Trump quite clear…Evidently comprehension is not one of your strong suits?…LOL!

          • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

            I’m multitasking here – multiple conversations going on online all while I run a business. But thanks for acting like an internet Nazi – ‘No soup for you!’…

  • sammy13

    Shirking duty. We must, during elections, take candidates at their word. If one is for abortion and the other against, I could not vote for the pro-abortion candidate. If the anti-abortion candidate lied, well, shame on him/her. As for his references to the Bible, I can agree with the writer. But since no candidate will ever measure up in this day and age, one should never take on the responsibility of deciding an election. As for voting in the lesser of two evils, let us look at voting OUT someone who is totally undesirable.

  • Scott Davenport

    So, I’m guessing this guy is the Pastor of the Church of the Eternal Wussies and Baby Killers?? Buttwipe supported Barry and Killary and enjoys Soros’s bunghole, no doubt…..

  • Nidalap

    I’m all for sticking to your ideals and all.
    Now, if this person would have found Hillary to be just hunky-dory, I’m thinking the whole “biblically qualified” spiel is just a handy excuse…

  • michael louwe

    What a stoopid logic from this Texan elector.!
    ……. Biblical leaders only apply in a theocracy, like the Jewish nation of Judah/Israel that was led by God’s prophet/judge, Moses n Joshua, circa 1400BC.
    ……. USA is not a theocracy, but a republican democracy. Only Saudi Arabia n Iran r akin to a theocratic Islamic nation.

  • Robert

    “Bread for beggars” Web site today talks about this thing under title Jeruslem the golden hymn . Right after the Thanksgiving prayer. Good stuff enjoy.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Donald Trump is a hero in that he had an all-out war against the liberals. Someone had to challenge the unfair reign of the liberals in the West. The West needs Christianity for honesty and freedom and fairness. The West is just another Third World where family members and merchants control everything, if it does not have the Judeo-Christian values. This time the pigs of the Animal Farm is well-fed pervs instead of racist rich or militant atheists. The world’s system is quite simple, actually. The mankind on Planet Earth need the Holy Bible for human rights and freedom. There is no other way to be free or sovereign.

    • Puppy

      Are you serious?Trump is far from a hero this election was a test from GOD to show how far the Church has fallen, and this is why God has allowed the church to side with Trump.Now comes the judgement 1 Peter 4:17.The church was suppose to say no to the choices of the world’s political system offered. the church used to point to peoples like Trump and Clinton list their sins and warns others to stay away from them. God is going,to expose the church in the years to come.

      Many Christians were more concerned with validating their egos, by affirming their politics under the guise of religion rather than bearing witness to the truth. As you have heard peoples said they were voting for Trump and against Clinton. But by doing this they failed to examine their own motives and the motives of Trump so they compromised themselves. God has already exposed Clinton and Democrats, now comes the Judgement with the church. I feel Trump will make Obama look like a Saint compared to him, it’s really going to so so bad and many Christians don’t see it coming.America should be begging God to forgive it’s sins before it’s too late.

      • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

        You wouldn’t know what God’s intentions and desires are if He spoke to you personally…You are just a delusional pharisee who thinks he is somehow better than the next guy…You are what is wrong with the Church today – too many sanctimonious sinners who actually believe hey are saints…

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Agreed in essence, but it was urgent that liberals be stopped by all means. Obama will never look saint in any comparison. Liberals kill babies and force immorality. The Allies worked together with the Soviets to defeat Nazis. Defeat of Nazis first. People do all kinds of evil, but the world should never be bullied for opposing homosexuality or be forced to pay for abortion murder. There are so much one can do in this world. Let’s keep praying for America. The Lord’s will be done in all things.

    • Puppy

      Isaiah 5:20, Woe to them that call evil good and good evil: that put darkness for light and light for darkness, that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! Trump White House Adviser Steve Bannon. SAID in his own WORDS that Darkness is GOOD. Dick Cheney,Dark Vader, Satan that’s power. it only helps us when they get it wrong.When,they’re blind to who we are and what we are doing.

      Steve Bannon, sounds like a known Satanist since he calls and believes Satan is GOOD,believes that darkness itself is Good.. Please keep praying for America we need your prayers more now than ever, Christians are sleeping, saying peace, peace, and celebrating but the Bible warns us what happens next 1 Thessalonians 5:3

      • https://www.ecodrycarpetcleaninglv.com/ Richard

        You are a little imp for claiming Steve Bannon “is a Satanist.” Steve Bannon has done more good for Israel in a week than you have done in your whole life…You are a sanctimonious little fraud, aren’t you?…

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        Yes, praying for America. If America goes down, so will all free democratic nations because America is protecting all. American Christians holding onto God’s truth without wavering have the beautiful ray of hope. The Lord bless His brave faithful people in America.

  • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

    I find it hilarious that Christians are so deluded as not to realize that this man could very well be God’s judgement on this country. Everything he is doing points to a massive bubble that will one day burst, leaving the middle class in America poor and broken. Look at who he is choosing for his cabinet, they’re maniacs. Trump has built his empire on how he can screw the other business people over, you can’t argue with me there because I heard him at a wealth expo in 2007. He admits to lying and manipulating people, (even boasted about getting religious ones). I am so sorry that the church of Christ has been this deceived as to vote for this man. Its going to backfire tremendously, within the next decade.

    • michael louwe

      Hillary as POTUS would hv been worse, ie another Obummer 2.0, eg admission of millions more Muslim refugees+terrorists n illegal Hispanic immigrants.
      .
      Fyi, Bill Clinton n Obama changed into multi-millionaires during n after their Presidency. Trump, like Reagan n the Bush’es, is a liberal-to-moderate Rino n is just the lesser of 2 evils.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBsvzKshKCw R. Arandas

    The problem is, to be honest…none of the candidates are truly “Biblically” qualified.

  • Becky

    Sadly, no evil (murder, adultery, theft, etc) will end before Christ’s return. Things will get worse and it’s quite evident…remember Sodom and Gomorrah and the days of Noah? In those two instances, God destroyed all evil. The same will happen in the end of our time on earth. There will no longer be any world governments in place neither will those systems be passed on into Christ’s new Kingdom.

    Christ said in John 12:31,“Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out.” And, in John 18:36, Christ said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.” This world and all of its worldly systems belong to Satan (Luke 4:5-7), hence the widespread evil. Why should a Christian be involved in a system that is filled with corruption and goes against Almighty God? Why should a Christian be involved in a system that will eventually be removed by him? It’s not just Trump, Mr. Sisneros, but the very system that employed you.

    Christ used His precious time on earth teaching others The Way unto salvation. Christ is our perfect example and we are to follow the ways of our Savior and not the ways of the world. Our mission, during our short stay on earth, is to spread the gospel (Matt 28:18-20).

    • Bob Johnson

      “God destroyed all evil.”

      The ark had hardly landed before Noah planted a vineyard and got drunk. His son Ham then breaks the law.

      • Becky

        Satan wasn’t destroyed. It was the people on earth that did evil against Almighty God who were destroyed…

        “Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. And the Lord was sorry that He had made man on the earth, and He was grieved in His heart. So the Lord said, “I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air, for I am sorry that I have made them.” But Noah found grace in the eyes of the Lord”
        Genesis 6:5-8

        “But those things which proceed out of the mouth come from the heart, and they defile a man. For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. These are the things which defile a man, but to eat with unwashed hands does not defile a man.” Matthew 15:18-20

        Christ will destroy Satan when he returns and sin will be no more (Revelation 20:10).

  • Robert

    He says the people will get their vote they will get their skittels . . WHAT A Super dooper christian he lets us know he is compared to us peon christian ‘s that voted for Trump .

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Praise God! This is at least headed in the right direction.

    Here’s the problem, thanks to Article 6’s Christian test ban by which mandatory biblical qualifications were also eliminated, there has hasn’t be a biblically qualified candidate since its inception in 1787.

    For more regarding Article 6’s Christian test ban, see online Chapter 9 “Article 6: The Supreme Law of the Land” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Online Books page, click on the top entry, and scroll down to Chapter 9.

    Then find out how much you REALLY know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the right-hand sidebar and receive a complimentary copy of a book that EXAMINES the Constitution by the Bible.

  • Taking care of business!

    I suppose it make more sense to “quit” and perhaps run the risk of handing the presidency to Hillary, the occultist, etc. whose design is to help create the one-world government of Antichrist and also have Christians suffer under the rule of the she-demon, who will complete the destruction of America. (Think ISIS, Christian persecution, anti-Semitism, the final destruction of our economy, amorality, etc.) We should be guided by our biblical values, which should be PROPERLY exacted from the Word, but not to the self-determined point of endangering our brothers and sisters in Christ. We have here a men (Mister Trump and Governor Pence), coupled with an American revival, that could return us as a nation, as a people, such as were the Founders and Founding Fathers–a nation that sought the face of God, with leaders who humbled themselves in prayer, seeking His guidance. The Lord has brought us back from the brink eight times previously, He can again. Mr. Sisneros, there is a plethora of true, Bible-believing pastors and scholars that have embraced Donald Trump to the point of believing the Lord has sent him to give us a ninth chance. I don’t know your training, but I doubt it nears theirs. If you’re expecting a Moses or David to lead America–sorry, they weren’t perfect either. Christians like the Founders and Founding Fathers? Sorry, I feel confident they’d fail your uncannily narrow standard for leadership. I’ve no idea how you were selected, appointed to your position as an elector. But they must have known something of your character, which leads me to question their wisdom. Your last paragraph is bizarre. Just borrowing from the last two sentences, a written collage if you will: “[you] will sleep well at night”, while WE’RE left to “mourn the loss of our republic”. And your contribution will be to that end–the end of the republic.