Female Minister Who Identifies as Male Asserts: ‘God Is Transgender’

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AUSTIN, Texas — A female minister in Texas who identifies as male recently declared at the state capitol that “God is transgender” in expressing her opposition to a proposed bill that requires those using restrooms and locker rooms in government buildings and public schools to use the facility that corresponds with the gender on their birth certificate.

Seth Wynn, who leads Agape Metropolitan Community Church in Fort Worth, began her speech refuting another pastor who had cited the Book of Genesis in expressing support for the legislation.

“In the beginning, God created humankind in God’s image. God created them male and female, so God is transgender,” Wynn asserted, as those gathered erupted in cheers and applause.

“So, it’s important that we all remember that—that we’re all created in the image of what is holy and divine and sacred, and we should all be treated that way,” she added.

Wynn cited a quote from author Anne Lamont, suggesting that those who disagree with transgenderism are hateful and have created a God in their own image.

“If I have anything to do about it, … we’re going to stop using God to hate people,” she declared, again drawing loud cheers. “Because it’s true—I think Anne Lamont said this—If God hates all the same people you do, then you’ve created God in your image.”

As previously reported, Wynn spoke before the Senate Affairs Committee on Tuesday, stating that bill’s requirement to use the restroom that corresponds with one’s birth gender poses an issue. Wynn’s birth certificate says female, but she sports a full beard.

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“There’s been a lot of conversation, too, about having men in the women’s bathroom,” she said. “And I guarantee you there’s going to be a problem if I show up in a woman’s bathroom.”

Wynn later stated during her speech outside the capitol that she didn’t believe many of those who testified in favor of the bill were being loving.

“I felt a lot a things in that room this morning, and love and compassion and were not those,” she said. “So, let us also be mindful to be embodiments of, and be the people, who even as we stand up for our communities and ourselves, we still are loving and compassionate and truthful.”

As previously reported, the bill at issue is Senate Bill 6, also known as the Texas Privacy Act. It was filed by Sen. Lois Kolkhorst, R-Brenham in January.

The measure is three pronged: It prohibits local municipalities from creating ordinances that control restroom usage at private businesses, requires those who use lavatories or locker rooms at government buildings and schools to use the men’s room if they were born a man and vice versa, and increases criminal penalties for crimes committed in restrooms, dressing rooms or locker rooms.

“A political subdivision or state agency with control over multiple-occupancy bathrooms or changing facilities in a building owned or leased by this state or the political subdivision, as applicable, shall develop a policy requiring each multiple occupancy bathroom or changing facility located in the building to be designated for and used only by persons of the same biological sex,” S.B. 6 reads in part.

The bill was advanced by the committee on Wednesday with only a single lawmaker voting against it.


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  • Trilemma

    God is transgender? So God is our Heavenly mother but identifies as our father? If God is both male and female, that would make God unisex, not transgender.

    • Chris

      Or God has no gender. The trouble is, in English we tend to give people a gender. It’s only things which are considered genderless.

    • Tony

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      I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and
      then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _So, my gender is a sin
      now in you eyes. WOW ! That is NOT CHRISTIAN! John 14:6.Galatians
      3:28.Matthew 7:1-3. I am not picking and choosing. IF you are a
      Christian you believe the Whole Bible as i do. I can believe some people call themselves Christians. The word Christian means ” Christ-Like yet, i am a sinner. The pursuit of being Christ-Like and the belief in the Bible( old and new) Make you are Christian. But then you have to believe Every word too.

      • Trilemma

        “I agree with Her !!”

        Her who?

  • wilson

    God made man, then made woman out of the rib of man so where does she get that God is transgender? The Bible says there will be false prophets and people that refuse to believe the truth. The truth is clearly stated in the Bible to.

    • Chris

      Now all you have to do is show that the bible is inspired by God. Not quote someone saying it mind, just evidence that it is. Otherwise what you’ve written is just an opinion.

      • Chet

        Each man has the right to determine in his own heart whether God’s Word, the Holy Bible, is for real. And if standing the test of time throughout the ages is not evidence enough, you might check with those whose lives have been transformed by it via the Lord Jesus Christ and His indwelling Holy Spirit as one repents of his sin and receives Christ as his own personal Lord and Saviour… Christians with changed lives (not perfect) and saved eternal souls who will one day make Heaven their own everlasting habitation. And for the Christ rejecters, those who followed their own will, it’s the madhouse of humanity, Hell, forever… Not because God didn’t love them, not because God didn’t care, but because they refused God Almighty’s remedy for sin in the person of His only begotten Son, the Christ of Calvary. Choose wisely, Chris…

        • Chris

          “Each man has the right to determine in his own heart whether God’s
          Word, the Holy Bible, is for real.”

          Very true. And such a determination should surely be based upon the evidence.

          “And if standing the test of time throughout the ages is not evidence enough, …”

          My own religion has the Gathas which were written down in the 1st Millenium BCE. That’s far older than the books of the bible.

          “…you might check with those whose lives have been transformed by it via the Lord Jesus Christ and His indwelling Holy Spirit as one repents of his sin and receives Christ
          as his own personal Lord and Saviour…”

          You might want to check the fact that most, if not all religions claim transformed lives for their worshippers. Does that make their religion true as well?

          “Christians with changed lives (not perfect) and saved eternal souls who will one day make Heaven their own everlasting habitation.”

          Yes this is Christian theology. Now please present evidence it is true.

          “And for the Christ rejecters, those who followed their own will, it’s the madhouse of humanity, Hell, forever…”

          So torture forever for people who were following the evidence. What a great God you serve. And please none of this ‘you’re sending yourself to hell’. You wouldn’t accept that as a defence from a mugger – I told him to hand over his wallet and he refused and so he chose to be shot.

          You would seem to worship a conception of God which is a monster, torturing people forever for anything He doesn’t like. Who gave Him this right?

          • Chet

            Much learning has seemingly made you mad, no…

          • Chris

            Much ignorance has either left you mad or found you so. 🙂

          • Sharon_at_home

            The Gathas are 17 Avestan hymns believed to have been composed by Zarathusthra (Zoroaster) himself. They form the
            core of the Zoroastrian liturgy (the Yasna).
            So your religion is based on some “believed to have been composed.” which is no difference from what you are saying about the bible. And no proof that it was written by whom they ‘believe’ wrote them.

            Who gave Him the right? He is our Creator! When you make something and it isn’t working the way you intended, you eliminate it and let the parts that DO work continue.

            By Creating us He has the right to do anything He wants to anything He created.

          • Chris

            “The Gathas are 17 Avestan hymns believed to have been composed by Zarathusthra (Zoroaster) himself. They form the core of the Zoroastrian liturgy (the Yasna).”

            Correct.

            “So
            your religion is based on some “believed to have been composed.” which
            is no difference from what you are saying about the bible. And no proof
            that it was written by whom they ‘believe’ wrote them.”

            I think you’ve misunderstood the Gathas. They are hymns which set out reasons for believing certain things. In other words they are a philosophy. Their authority comes from reason and NOT from a particular person. If the arguments are correct then it doesn’t matter if Zoroaster wrote the Gathas or not. If the arguments are wrong then it still doesn’t matter.

            “He is our Creator! When you make something and it isn’t working the way you intended, you eliminate it and let the parts that DO work continue.”

            Unless what you’ve made is sentient, then you have no right to do any such thing.

            “By Creating us He has the right to do anything He wants to anything He created.”

            That would make us slaves and God a divine slave owner. Is that your conception of God?

    • Balerion

      It wasn’t a rib.

      Then again, it’s all just a story anyway.

      • Chet

        What is life, it is but a vapour that appeareth for a little time then vanisheth away. So then, every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

    • Tony

      I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible andNOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! __ You bring in the Bible and talk about Homosexuals OK that is a sin . Trans-people are Not
      the same as that. John 14:6 King James Version (KJV)
      6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto
      the Father, but by me.
      *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
      nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
      I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
      Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
      since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
      on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone ! _
      Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)
      7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
      2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
      and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
      3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye,
      but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
      __

      • Robert

        Tony , Adam and Eve were created in God’s image.but after they fell into sin what image does the bible say their children received ? Well the bible says their children that seith received their tainted image. Only by trusting Jesus that he won forgivness for our sins is that image of God restored. HOW THAN CAN ONE TRUST n forgivness and have Jesus Restore the tainted image of God if they reject a sin as sin?
        I

      • Robert

        Tony after the fall into sin look what happened to the image of God. Because of Sin it was lost Gen 5:3 Seth received Adam’s image . You received Adams sinful image not Gods. And their is Nothing you can do about only Jesus can . . What do you
        Want to loose heaven or wanton sin ? You can’t trust Jesus for his forgivness if you refuse to see any sin as sin not just the sin your fighting for now. That goes for all of us. Not just you.

      • Ed Pooler

        We are NOT casting stones (punishing) we are merely warning against deceitful sin. According to new and old Bibles, the almighty God refers to Himself as “Father”.

  • Amos Moses

    delusion ……… apostasy ….. idolatry …… reprobate mind …..

  • Mint Julep

    The real problem is that she identifies as Christian.

    • Eunice Hipe

      She is knowledgeable regarding the Bible, yet, in her opinion, she defines the Bible her definition, not what it means in biblical terms. The Bible will correct us, not us to define the Bible.

      • Chris

        So when the bible said that the Earth stands still we should have listened to the bible and not science?

        • C_Alan_Nault

          I love the bible.

          • Chris

            I don’t doubt it. According to Francesca Stavrakopoulou there’s a lot to love. The bible is a wonderful collection of myths, poems, laws and histories.

            However I wasn’t asking you if you loved the bible.

          • C_Alan_Nault

            I just wanted to share that. Also, don’t forget that the Bible is factually accurate.

          • Chris

            So you accept that the Earth is stationary and the sun goes round it?

      • Tony

        I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
        Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
        need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
        believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
        should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
        side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
        with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
        as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
        God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
        not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
        close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
        Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
        Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
        Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
        WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
        and then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _So, my gender is a sin now in you eyes. WOW ! That is NOT CHRISTIAN! John 14:6.Galatians 3:28.Matthew 7:1-3. I am not picking and choosing. IF you are a Christian you believe the Whole Bible as i do.

    • Tony

      the same as that. John 14:6 King James Version (KJV)

      6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto
      the Father, but by me.
      *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
      nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
      I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
      Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
      since before Jesus was on earth. John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
      on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone ! _
      Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV)
      7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
      2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
      and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
      3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye,
      but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye

      I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible andNOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _

  • meamsane

    A better headline would have been, “Female (Trans) Minister creates God in her own image”!

    • Chris

      There’s a saying which goes “you know you’ve made God in your image when He hates all the same people you do.”

      • meamsane

        I will certainly give this “saying” all the consideration it is due………next!

        • Chris

          You should give it a lot of consideration. It’s true after all.

      • Chet

        What hate, where?

        • Chris

          Have a read of some of the commenters in this thread.

      • Sharon_at_home

        I don’t think most Christians Hate transgenders. God commanded us to love one another and when someone is sinning we should let them know they are, and tell them about Jesus. That isn’t hate; that’s actually love trying to help someone overcome their sins. Unfortunately some people don’t follow God’s commands and do things that God never asked us to do.
        I don’t hate transgenders, I just don’t think people should make demands that overstep the majority of people’s privacy.
        I guess we’ll see exactly how much of a mistake it is to let men into little girls bathrooms. Even if it isn’t a transgender they will make themselves seem to be.
        Rather than making demands you should be showing the public what kind of people you really are. You’ve sort of dumped all these things on people who don’t understand and don’t want a lot of change because they are older. Show what kind of people you are so we can be more confident about you – and more accepting too.
        God bless!

        • Chris

          “I don’t think most Christians Hate transgenders.”

          I agree with you and didn’t mean to imply otherwise. I apologize if I didn’t make that clear. There are some on this site who’ve described homosexuals and transgendered as twisted, diseased, disgusting, etc. Such posters do give every indication that they hate homosexuals and the transgendered.

          “Rather than making demands you should be showing the public what kind of people you really are.”

          I’m not transgendered. I should have made that clearer.

          “Show what kind of people you are so we can be more confident about you – and more accepting too.”

          Now that I agree with wholeheartedly. When people see that homosexuals and the transgendered are just human beings too with hopes and dreams and fears very similar to their own then such fear will vanish.

          “God bless!”

          You too.

      • Thisoldspouse

        The converse can be true as well, when your “god” loves the same things that you do.

        • Chris

          Yep. You’re correct. That’s also a danger.

    • Tony

      I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and then have to repent.WOW ! My God doesn’t have hate, does yours?

      • Taking care of business!

        YES, my God is one that “hate[s]” sin–and sexual impurity is one, which you’re encouraging. Interesting: “He in FACT is [sic] Both.” That’s unbiblical and blasphemous! You cherry-pick and distort Scripture, like all apostates, to make your unsound reasoning seem credible, sending the gullible to white throne judgement. Consider this and your misleading and misrepresentation: 2 Timothy 4:3-4 King James Version
        3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
        4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. Timothy 4:1 King James Version
        Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; [and] 2 Timothy 3:13 King James Version
        But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived. In conclusion, I both pity and pray for you and those like you, for your salvation, over the unsound doctrine you spew, as I’ve supported with scripture. It’s a waste of a soul you chosen the way of an antichrist–and that’s not being judgemental. Where you fail to understanding the biblical meaning also. Question: “What does the Bible mean that we are not to judge others?”
        Answer: Jesus’ command not to judge others could be the most widely quoted of His sayings, even though it is almost invariably quoted in complete disregard of its context. Here is Jesus’ statement: “Do not judge, or you too will be judged” (Matthew 7:1). Many people use this verse in an attempt to silence their critics, interpreting Jesus’ meaning as “You don’t have the right to tell me I’m wrong.” Taken in isolation, Jesus’ command “Do not judge” does indeed seem to preclude all negative assessments. However, there is much more to the passage than those three words.
        The Bible’s command that we not judge others does not mean we cannot show discernment. Immediately after Jesus says, “Do not judge,” He says, “Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs” (Matthew 7:6). A little later in the same sermon, He says, “Watch out for false prophets. . . . By their fruit you will recognize them” (verses 15–16). How are we to discern who are the “dogs” and “pigs” and “false prophets” unless we have the ability to make a judgment call on doctrines and deeds? Jesus is giving us permission to tell right from wrong.
        Also, the Bible’s command that we not judge others does not mean all actions are equally moral or that truth is relative. [As you’ve chosen to do in your post-modern view.] The Bible clearly teaches that truth is objective, eternal, and inseparable from God’s character. Anything that contradicts the truth is a lie—but, of course, to call something a “lie” is to pass judgment. To call adultery or murder a sin is likewise to pass judgment—but it’s also to agree with God. When Jesus said not to judge others, He did not mean that no one can identify sin for what it is, based on God’s definition of sin.
        And the Bible’s command that we not judge others does not mean there should be no mechanism for dealing with sin. The Bible has a whole book entitled Judges. The judges in the Old Testament were raised up by God Himself (Judges 2:18). The modern judicial system, including its judges, is a necessary part of society. In saying, “Do not judge,” Jesus was not saying, “ANYTHING GOES.” [Emphasis added.] P.S. It’s peculiar, bizarre you cite John 3:16 which reinforces your self- or demonic-imposed confusion. (And, NO, I did NOT accuse you of being a demon.) “For God so loved the world, that HE gave HIS only begotten SON, that whosoever believeth in HIM should not perish, but have everlasting life.” P.P.S. Yours is a biblically irrational, illogical, naturalistic, heathenistic, secular worldview. Therefore, please feel free to rebut in any ill-gotten fashion you deem fit–for I count it all joy to be persecuted for my Lord and Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ.

        • Chet

          1000 thumbs up!

  • Eunice Hipe

    the last days…wolves are coming out…..

  • Omnicopy

    They hold the truth in unrighteousness and enjoy it. The wrath of God is coming upon them!

    • Tony

      And to you the Judges the Wrath Comes for you as well. I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and
      then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _So, my gender is a sin
      now in you eyes. WOW ! That is NOT CHRISTIAN! John 14:6.Galatians
      3:28.Matthew 7:1-3. I am not picking and choosing. IF you are a
      Christian you believe the Whole Bible as i do.

  • Batshelmalek

    Community Church…….that figures……a counterfeit of the true church. God is beyond transgenderism. That is a human thing. The truth can’t be compromised, but this chick wants a do-it-yourself Christianianity. It doesn’t work that way.

    • Chris

      Having read a number of Christians denouncing each other for not being a ‘true’ Christian I think the vast majority of Christians treat Christianity as a do-it-yourself project.

  • Somebody In Texas

    Scriptures on the LGBT Issue

    Leviticus 18:22 (NIV2011)
    22 “ ‘Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable

    Leviticus 20:13 (KJV)
    13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    Jude 1:7 (NIV2011)
    7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.

    Romans 1:26-28 (KJV)
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

    1 Timothy 1:3-11 (NIV2011)
    3 As I urged you when I went into Macedonia, stay there in Ephesus so that you may command certain people not to teach false doctrines any longer
    4 or to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies. Such things promote controversial speculations rather than advancing God’s work—which is by faith.
    5 The goal of this command is love, which comes from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith.
    6 Some have departed from these and have turned to meaningless talk.
    7 They want to be teachers of the law, but they do not know what they are talking about or what they so confidently affirm.
    8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly.
    9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers,
    10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers—and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine
    11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.

    1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (KJV)
    9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
    10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

    Revelation 2:14-16 (NIV2011)
    14 Nevertheless, I have a few things against you: There are some among you who hold to the teaching of Balaam, who taught Balak to entice the Israelites to sin so that they ate food sacrificed to idols and committed sexual immorality.
    15 Likewise, you also have those who hold to the teaching of the Nicolaitans.
    16 Repent therefore! Otherwise, I will soon come to you and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

    • Tony

      GENDER is not sex AND Who with. LGB is a Sin BUT, TQIA is Gender and NOT a sin. I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and
      then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _So, my gender is a sin
      now in you eyes. WOW ! That is NOT CHRISTIAN! John 14:6.Galatians
      3:28.Matthew 7:1-3. I am not picking and choosing. IF you are a
      Christian you believe the Whole Bible as i do.

  • Somebody In Texas

    The Story of Sodom and Gomorrah

    Genesis 19:1-29 (NIV2011)
    1 The two angels arrived at Sodom in the evening, and Lot was sitting in the gateway of the city. When he saw them, he got up to meet them and bowed down with his face to the ground.
    2 “My lords,” he said, “please turn aside to your servant’s house. You can wash your feet and spend the night and then go on your way early in the morning.” “No,” they answered, “we will spend the night in the square.”
    3 But he insisted so strongly that they did go with him and entered his house. He prepared a meal for them, baking bread without yeast, and they ate.
    4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house.

    • Chris

      There’s no evidence that Sodom and Gomorrah ever existed.

      • billinghamboy

        See dead sea region?

        • Chris

          An old copy of a text of Genesis is NOT evidence. The remains of the city would be evidence. An inscription from the city would be evidence. A mention of those cities in in government records in a country which bordered theirs.

      • Thisoldspouse

        Uh, it was destroyed. What evidence would be left?

        • Chris

          Fair question. Ok. What would be left would be things like mention of their kings by documents in other city/states. Rubble from the destroyed houses. Broken pottery and other detritus from the city/state’s dump, and so on.

  • Somebody In Texas

    Human Depravity

    Romans 1:1-32 (NIV2011)
    1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God—
    2 the gospel he promised beforehand through his prophets in the Holy Scriptures
    3 regarding his Son, who as to his earthly life was a descendant of David,
    4 and who through the Spirit of holiness was appointed the Son of God in power by his resurrection from the dead: Jesus Christ our Lord.
    5 Through him we received grace and apostleship to call all the Gentiles to the obedience that comes from faith for his name’s sake.
    6 And you also are among those Gentiles who are called to belong to Jesus Christ.
    7 To all in Rome who are loved by God and called to be his holy people: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and from the Lord Jesus Christ.
    8 First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for all of you, because your faith is being reported all over the world.
    9 God, whom I serve in my spirit in preaching the gospel of his Son, is my witness how constantly I remember you
    10 in my prayers at all times; and I pray that now at last by God’s will the way may be opened for me to come to you.
    11 I long to see you so that I may impart to you some spiritual gift to make you strong—
    12 that is, that you and I may be mutually encouraged by each other’s faith.
    13 I do not want you to be unaware, brothers and sisters, that I planned many times to come to you (but have been prevented from doing so until now) in order that I might have a harvest among you, just as I have had among the other Gentiles.
    14 I am obligated both to Greeks and non-Greeks, both to the wise and the foolish.
    15 That is why I am so eager to preach the gospel also to you who are in Rome.
    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile.
    17 For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”
    18 The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of people, who suppress the truth by their wickedness,
    19 since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them.
    20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
    21 For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened.
    22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools
    23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles.
    24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another.
    25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.
    26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones.
    27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.
    28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done.
    29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips,
    30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents;
    31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.
    32 Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.

  • Somebody In Texas

    Whose Children are You ?

    Matthew 12:50 (KJV)

    50 For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister, and mother.

    John 8:42-45 (KJV)
    42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
    43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
    44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
    45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.

    2 Timothy 3:1-5 (KJV)
    1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
    2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
    3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
    4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
    5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

    • Chris

      How long have you been waiting for the last days?

  • Somebody In Texas

    Jesus Said REPENT ……..

    Matthew 4:17 (NIV2011)

    17 From that time on Jesus began to preach, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven has come near.”
    Acts 20:20-21 (NIV2011)
    20 You know that I have not hesitated to preach anything that would be helpful to you but have taught you publicly and from house to house.
    21 I have declared to both Jews and Greeks that they must turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus.
    ———————————————————————————

    Somewhere in Eternity will be Countless Millions of Lost Souls that will be Cast Into the Darkness for the Evil that these Haters of the God of the Bible. They will be Very Lonely in the Eternal Darkness Without Any Fellowship with anything good. Evil in the Darkness will be so Very Lonely for those who Chose Evil over Good and Darkness over Light. A Place for All of those who have Rejected the Only Savior of Yeshua/Jesus the Christ or Messiah.

    Confess Yeshua/Jesus and Repent of your Sins so that you will have Eternal Heaven instead of Eternal Hell.

  • Richard May

    “Female Minister Who Identifies as Male Asserts”: ‘God Is Transgender’: I am a male army-chemist who identifies as “still a dude,” and I assert that I just threw up now

    • Royce E. Van Blaricome

      LOL. Don’t blame ya. Retired Navy here. Thank you for your service. How y’all liking BHO’s Transgender Military?

  • michael louwe

    “God is transgender, like her/him”????

    ROMANS.1: = 22 Professing to be wise, they became fools, 23 and
    changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like
    corruptible man—and birds and four-footed animals and creeping things…
    ….
    26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. 27 Likewise
    also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their
    lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and
    receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

    • Chris

      You do realise that your verse is saying that homosexuality is caused by idolatry don’t you? Since homosexuality is found in every species on the planet did they worship idols too?

    • Tony

      GENDER IS NOT A SIN !!! Other wise Every women that started the sin world with be the embodiment of Sin on earth ( Apple / pear) . Sexuality can be a Sinful. I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and
      then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _So, my gender is a sin
      now in you eyes. WOW ! That is NOT CHRISTIAN! John 14:6.Galatians
      3:28.Matthew 7:1-3. I am not picking and choosing. IF you are a
      Christian you believe the Whole Bible as i do.

  • Sherry

    This is blasphemy taught by a man who has been deceived! In John chapter 2 of the Bible, John tells how those who disobeyed him were turned over to their own desires and lusts and women exchanged the natural for the unnatural and men exchanged the natural for the unnatural. The words this Pastor has spoken are straight from the great deceiver, Satan! Test this teaching against the Word of God. If you follow this pastor, he will lead you straight to hell! Jesus calls God Father. In no place throughout the Bible is God referred to as a female! Do not be led astray. I implore you to repent before it is too late. The Bible also says in the last days people will not listen to sound doctrine. We are in the last days, always just one breath from the Lord’s return. You could die in a car crash today and if you haven’t repented and accepted Jesus as your Savior, it would sadly be too late. The Lord does not want anyone to perish, that’s why he has waited so long to return to take his church to dwell with him and with God forever. May the Holy Spirit of God remove the blinders from your eyes and open your hearts to the truth of the Lord! Amen.

    • getstryker

      Biblically accurate – thank you!
      May God Bless you and yours 😉

    • Tony

      You judge But clearly The bible tells you not too. WOW , some so-call Christians these days. I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and
      then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _So, my gender is a sin
      now in you eyes. WOW ! That is NOT CHRISTIAN! John 14:6.Galatians
      3:28.Matthew 7:1-3. I am not picking and choosing. IF you are a
      Christian you believe the Whole Bible as i do.

  • Jason Traweek

    A demon does as it always does…LIE!God does say he created man and woman…which we all know he did….BUT!!!He created man in his image then created woman from man…God is also a MAN…named Yeshua/Jesus.

    • Chris

      God is a man? So God has testicles? Does God urinate too? How about go to the toilet? Your concept of God seems like a giant human to me.

    • Trilemma

      The Bible says God is not a man, Numbers 23:19.

    • Trilemma

      According to the Bible, women were created in the image of god just as much as men.

      So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. – Genesis 1:27 NIV

      • Jason Traweek

        Well your first issue is quoting from a NIV Bible.

        “So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them”Gen 1:27 NKJV

        Nowhere does that say he created women in his image.Now that doesn’t make men more special than women…but God created man in his own image THEN created woman from a man.

        • Trilemma

          Why do you think the NKJV is a better translation of this verse than the NIV?

          Also, why is it that in this verse that Adam and Eve are created together on day 6 while in chapter 2 Adam is created on day 3 while Eve is created on day 6?

          • Jason Traweek

            Almost all the translations are better than the NIV which is a newer one…why?The NIV translators removed 64,576 words as compared to older Bibles like the King James! Words are very important! God put “every Word” there for a reason, i.e., so we could live by them! Matthew 4:4, “It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God.” If I am to live for God, then I need an “every Word” Bible.

            So what’s wrong with the NIV? In a word… EVERYTHING! Do you have any idea how many things were eviscerated (disemboweled) from the Bible by the NIV authors? Hundreds of words, phrases, and even entire Bible verses were removed from the Word of God by the NIV butchers. Whereas the King James Bible mentions the “Godhead” three times, the NIV has completely removed the word. You won’t find the word “propitiation” in the NIV either. In fact, all of the following words have been removed from the Bible by the NIV : regeneration, mercyseat, Calvary, remission, immutable, omnipotent, Comforter, Holy Ghost, quickened, infallible, et cetera. One of the most blasphemous omissions in the NIV is in John 3:16 where Jesus is no longer proclaimed as the “only BEGOTTEN Son of God.

          • Trilemma

            I’m well aware of the differences between the NIV and the KJV. But my question was about a single verse. Why do you think the NKJV translation of Genesis 1:27 is better than the NIV translation of Genesis 1:27?

          • Jason Traweek

            Gen 2 5-7 does say anything about when(keyword) man was form out of the dust of the ground.

            “This is the history of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, 5 before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the Lord God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; 6 but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.”

            This paragraph is talking about the history of the heavens(sky) and the earth(ground)..you can’t have plant life without the sky and ground and you can’t have herbs of the field without man to work the ground.That has nothing to do with the day God made man.

            Now we go to the very next paragraph…and that’s key to note because it is a whole new thought..that’s the reason it’s a whole new paragraph!

            “And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.’

            This is an overview…again has nothing to do with what day God made man.

          • Trilemma

            After God created Adam in verse 2:7, God created plant life in verse 2:9 which Chapter 1 says God did on day 3. Then later in verse 2:19, God created birds which Chapter 1 says God did on day 5. So, according to chapter 2, Adam was clearly not created on day 6 as chapter 1 claims.

          • Jason Traweek

            This is starting to get badly repetitive at this point.
            I’m a former rabbinical trained rabbi turned Biblical teacher with 37 years of langauge studying under my belt and what you just posted is badly wrong.I read Hebrew,Aramaic,Greek and Latin.I have a Greek Bible right in front of me.

            The word “man” from the KJV/NKJV is translated from the Greek word anēr, which refers to a male individual of the human race a husband…guné means female
            Anthrópos is the Greek word for mankind… is the racial, generic term, and which has the general idea of ‘mankind’ it’s not used there.

            Now let me pull out my Hebrew Bible since the KJV/NKJV translated the OT from that.

            way-yiḇ-rā ’ĕ-lō-hîm eṯ- hā-’ā-ḏām bə-ṣal-mōw bə-ṣe-lem ’ĕ-lō-hîm bā-rā ō-ṯōw; zā-ḵār ū-nə-qê-ḇāh bā-rā ’ō-ṯām.Now let me translate this for you….God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female

            The Hebrew word adam is translated either as “man” or “Adam” depending on context and on the presence or lack of the definite article (“the” in English, ha in Hebrew). So “ha-adam“ is translated usually as “the man” (referring to either an unspecified man or to mankind as a whole, depending on context), whereas adam(without ha) is translated as “Adam” (referring to the specific man by the name). So all the way through Genesis 1–3 we have ha-adam and our English Bibles usually translate it as “man” or “the man.” Some translations give “Adam” for ha-adam in Genesis 2:19 or 2:20. In Genesis 3:17 and Genesis 3:21 we have adam (with no ha), which most English Bibles translate as “Adam.”

            There is one more exception in this section of Scripture, which can only be understood in context. Genesis 1:26 says “And God said, ‘let us make man [adam, with no ha before it] in our image’” and 1:27 is parallel to verse 26, giving more definition and precision to the statement in verse 26. Verse 27 says “so God created man [ha-adam] in His own image, in the image of God he created him.“ So we are thinking of a single man at this point. But then it adds “male and female he created them“ (plural). So now we see that “man” comes in two forms: male and female.

            Notice here that in verse 26 God (singular in English, but a plural noun in Hebrew, sometimes elsewhere translated as “gods”) said (third person singular verb form in Hebrew), “let us (plural) make man in our (plural) image.“ But then in verse 27 God says that He created man in “his” (singular) image. This is a subtle but very significant witness to the triune nature of God—a plurality in unity.

            Something similar is going on with the use of adam—it too is used to convey plurality in unity. It means a single person (a male member of the human race) or it refers to a plurality in unity (representing the whole human race, just as in English we say “man” to mean mankind or in representing male and female together). These verses about the creation of man and woman, when taken in harmony with the rest of the teaching of Scripture, convey the oneness of male and female humans as equal bearers of the image of God and equal in status before God (equally able to have a direct personal relationship with God) but they also teach the headship of the male in terms of roles in relationship. See for example, Genesis 2:7 and Genesis 2:22 (where Adam is created first and then Eve is made from his rib), Genesis 3:8–17 (where Adam is held ultimately responsible for the sin), Genesis 3:20 (Adam named Eve, just as he did the animals), Genesis 5:1–5 (Adam is the fountainhead of the genealogy of the human race traced through men), and so on. The New Testament picks up this teaching and affirms the headship of the male in the home and in the church (e.g. Ephesians 5:22ff, 1 Corinthians 11:3–12, 1 Timothy 2:11–15, Romans 5:12, 1 Timothy 3:1–2, and so on). According to the Bible, men (whether in the home or in the church) are to exercise their headship in a loving and sacrificial manner, looking out for the best interests of those under their authority and recognizing their accountability to God Almighty for how they lead and care for others. They are not to be totalitarian dictators but rather gracious, serving leaders, like the Lord Jesus Christ.

          • Jason Traweek

            You have an agenda you’re trying to push that’s clear by your post.You’re not a well educated agenda pusher on this subject ,but you’re trying your hardest.Odds are you’re a male trying to live your life as a female or the other way around ,or you know someone living that way.So you’re trying your hardest to make that lifestyle fit the way you want the Bible to read.This convo has got stale for this very reason…already blocked you so I don’t get anymore troll post for you because it’s clear that’s what you’re doing at this post.At least be a more educated troll next time,that would be my tip for you going forward.

          • Trilemma

            You said.

            The word “man” from the KJV/NKJV is translated from the Greek word anēr,
            which refers to a male individual of the human race a husband…guné
            means female
            Anthrópos is the Greek word for mankind… is the
            racial, generic term, and which has the general idea of ‘mankind’ it’s
            not used there.

            What version of Greek Old Testament are you looking at? The LXX doesn’t use anēr in either Genesis 1:26 or 1:27. In both verses, the LXX uses anthrōpon which you said is the Greek word for mankind. Therefore, the LXX supports the NIV using mankind in these two verses.

          • Jason Traweek

            NKJV…
            So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

            VS

            NIV
            So God created mankind in his own image,in the image of God he created them;male and female he created them.

            Do you not see the massive differences between the two?Why quote from a flawed translation to make a point?That’s why the NKJV is the better translation.I speak and read Hebrew…what the KJV and NKJV reads is what the Hebrew version says.That’s important I would say.

          • Trilemma

            Massive differences? I don’t think so. There are only two words that are different. “Man,” in the NKJV means exactly the same thing as, “mankind,” in the NIV. They’re synonyms, so that’s not really a difference. The NKJV uses “him” instead of “them” as the NIV does. This is a grammatical error for the NKJV since the pronoun is referring back to a noun that refers to all people, both male and female. The NIV is the better translation.

          • Jason Traweek

            As far as your second question..

            Gen 1 doesn’t say they were created on the same day…it’s giving you a overview of things…THEN it goes into more detail in Chapter 2 etc..

          • Trilemma

            I agree that Chapter 1 clearly puts Adam’s creation on day 6 after all the animals. But Chapter 2 says that Adam was created before there was any plant life. That puts Adam’s creation on day 3.

            before any plant of the field was in the earth and before any herb of the field had grown. For the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground; but a mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground. And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. – Genesis 2:5-7 NKJV

            Then in verses 9 and 10 God created a garden and all plant life. And then God went on to create all the animals. So clearly, according to Chapter 2, Adam was created on day 3 and not on day 6 as Chapter 1 says.

      • Reason2012

        The topic is calling God a transgender, which is a deceitful claim.

        A son and daughter is also made in the image of their father – doesn’t mean the father’s a transgender either.

        Jesus calls God the “Father” time and again, never “Mother”. God is hence from a gender perspective considered “male”. Jesus / God is the groom, not the bride, hence male. Anyone who teaches otherwise is trying to undermine God’s Word to satisfy their own needs to satisfy their own lusts.

        The Bible makes it clear women are not to be pastors, but she makes it clear she refuses to obey God in that regard as well, hence any other “doctrines” she give are automatically suspect.

        This is why people need to read their Bibles every day and pray for God’s guidance – any deception they fall for will be their own fault.

        • Trilemma

          The Bible makes it clear that God is not a man. So, if God identifies as a man as you say, then that makes God transgender.

          Referring to God as father is a figurative use of the word, “father. It’s being used as a metaphor. Same thing with the church being referred to as the bride of Christ or the body of Christ. These are metaphors.

          The Bible does not make it clear that women are not to be pastors ever. Paul makes it clear that he personally didn’t want women to have authority over men. He was speaking for himself to the culture of his day.

          • Reason2012

            Specifically the Bible says God is Spirit, as Jesus said. But to pretend he’s a woman or female, let alone transgender, falls flat in the face of even the metaphor as you say that He’s our Father, not our Mother.

            The Bible makes it clear women are not to be pastors of a church.
            Women are not to be pastors. Doesn’t matter how many of us do not like it – doesn’t matter what I think – it’s God we’ll have to convince if we try to do or teach otherwise.

            1 Corinthians 14:34-35 “Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.”

            1 Timothy 2:11-14 “Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”

            1 Timothy 3:1-2 “This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, vigilant, sober, of good behaviour, given to hospitality, apt to teach;”

            Titus 1:6-9 “If any be blameless, the husband of one wife, having faithful children not accused of riot or unruly. For a bishop must be blameless, as the steward of God; not selfwilled, not soon angry, not given to wine, no striker, not given to filthy lucre; But a lover of hospitality, a lover of good men, sober, just, holy, temperate; Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers.”

            Ephesians 5:22-25 “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing. Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;”

            1 Peter 3:1-6 “Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear. Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price. For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands: Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.”

            It’s up to us what we will obey and then we’ll deal with the consequences. Any we get to do the same thing will also be guilty and we’ll be responsible for getting them to do it.

            Please think again.

          • Trilemma

            We should not pretend God is a woman or female, man or male, lion or lamb, or any other creature. The reason the God is our Heavenly Father metaphor is used rather than God is our Heavenly Mother is because of the male dominating culture the Bible was written for. The reality is that God is our Heavenly Mother just as much as he is our Heavenly Father, metaphorically speaking.

            Ephesians 5:22-25 gives instructions to wives concerning their relationship with their husbands. It doesn’t say a woman can’t be a pastor. A woman who is a pastor can still abide by these instructions.

            1 Peter 3:1-6 gives instructions to believing wives who have unbelieving husbands. It doesn’t say a woman can’t be a pastor. A woman who is a pastor can still abide by these instructions.

            1Corinthians 14:34-35 gives instructions to women during a church service to not cause disruption while the pastor is preaching. It doesn’t say women can’t be the pastor. And women were certainly allowed by Paul to prophesy as long as their heads was covered.

            In 1 Timothy 2:11-14 Paul says, “But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.” Paul says, “I” to show that this instruction is coming from him personally and not from God. This personal teaching continues through 1Timothy 3:1-2 and Titus 1:6-9. Why does Paul not want women to have authority? In 1Corinthians 10:23 NASB, Paul said, “All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.” It has always been lawful for a woman to be a pastor but because of the first century culture, it was not profitable or edifying. Today’s culture is different and a woman pastor is both profitable and edifying. We do not live in an Iron Age culture so Paul’s instructions on how the church is to conduct itself in an Iron Age culture don’t necessarily apply today.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    More blasphemies. The Church should never ordain females as “ministers” as the Holy Bible prohibits it. One deliberate disobedience leads to another, more devastating one. Grown men must read the Holy Bible firsthand and learn God’s truth from the male servants of God.

    • Tony

      I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and
      then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _So, my gender is a sin
      now in you eyes. WOW ! That is NOT CHRISTIAN! John 14:6.Galatians
      3:28.Matthew 7:1-3. I am not picking and choosing. IF you are a
      Christian you believe the Whole Bible as i do. WHO CARES if females are Teachers of God. WHO CARES what Gender a Person is..

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        You are not Christian; true Christians do not live in sins unrepentantly. Read 1 John and James. Today’s secular West is mentally ill for being too well-fed and having everything in life for the longest tme. Stop your slavery by imposing a falsehood. The world is suffering because of the well-fed rich Ex-christian Western pervs. Read the entire Holy Bible and be normal. You guys always need the Word of God to stay civilized. God created male and female(Genesis 1), period.

  • InTheChurch

    No one gets to the FATHER, except through me, said Jesus.
    That is pretty clear to me.
    this dude needs to read Lev 18 and only focus on the first 5 verses.

    • Chris

      Especially the verses which deal with wearing mixed materials and the ones eating shellfish. I hope you don’t do any of those things, or do you cherry-pick the bible?

  • C_Alan_Nault

    You had better follow God.

  • billinghamboy

    Who ever imagined that things could get this twisted,all part of the “end time”mix which encourages us to Get ready and look up!Storm heaven,time to pray!!!

  • Gavin Swanepoel

    This is abomination being preached by false preacher,these so called religious churches and preachers are trying to destroy God’s word….

    • Tony

      Gender is not a sin. sexuality can be. I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL
      Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to
      need to remember All the bible and NOT just Pick and chose which text to
      believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or
      should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine
      side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled
      with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking
      as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like
      God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are
      not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You
      close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians
      Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be
      Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am
      Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those
      WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin
      and
      then have to repent.You judgement is a SIN !!! _So, my gender is a sin
      now in you eyes. WOW ! That is NOT CHRISTIAN! John 14:6.Galatians
      3:28.Matthew 7:1-3. I am not picking and choosing. IF you are a
      Christian you believe the Whole Bible as i do.Sad that you judge and that is the Real Sin.

      • Gavin Swanepoel

        I am not judging anyone, this is abomination and if you you think by justifying your sin by quoting certain Bible versus and especially quoting these versus out of context to suite your sin, then I am afraid you are terribly wrong.
        I as a Christian have every right to condemn sin because the Word of God says so. “Love the sinner, but hate the sin” this is what I am pointing out. There is right and there is wrong, there is black and white, there are no grey areas as far as Gods Word is concerned…
        We humans are not God, so we cannot think like Him, this new age Christianity rubbish that you and people like you are preaching is an abomination of The Word of God and it is wrong…
        You are simply making excuses for your sin and therefore seeking justification for it by distorting “The Word and The Truth” to suit your own lust and your own sinful nature and life style.
        God made man in His image and And from man he made a woman…there is absolutely nowhere in the Bible that The Lord created a transgender, please show me? And YAHWEH is not a woman contrary to what the foolish believe…
        Please do me a favor “do not use or quote” any chapter verse or Word from the Bible if you do not know what you are talking about, when you do quote something out of The Bible, make sure you follow up the quote with fact and not just a chapter and a verse, use the correct translations and meanings of what those chapters and verses actually mean and not what you actually believe they mean…. I know that that I am a sinner and I don’t need an excuse to hide behind it, that is between God and me… unlike yourself who passing judgement on me … I will pray that God gives you clear understanding and that he guides you away from your abomination and SIN….

        • Trilemma

          God created one man and one woman. So, who created people who are unisex?

          And YAHWEH is not a man contrary to what the foolish believe…

          • Gavin Swanepoel

            wow! the ignorance of foolish people…another person who doesn’t know what they are talking about!!!

          • Trilemma

            You said, “there is absolutely nowhere in the Bible that The Lord created a transgender.” That is an argument from silence. There is absolutely nowhere in the Bible that The Lord created a person who is unisex. But He obviously did. Just because the Bible doesn’t say God created transgender doesn’t mean He didn’t.

          • Gavin Swanepoel

            There is absolutely no point in arguing with ignorance and stupidity, because in nowhere in your pointless discussion do you offer fact…

          • Trilemma

            Fact: God is not man.
            Fact: Nowhere in the Bible does it say it’s a sin for a person who was born female to identify as a man.
            Fact: You made the logical fallacy of an argument from silence.

  • Tony

    I agree with Her !!. God made man and Made female REMEMBER WE ARE ALL Created in His Image !!!! You Holier than thou so-call Cristian need to need to remember All the bible andNOT just Pick and chose which text to believe Jesus Loves ALL. It does not matter what Gender you are or should be God loves us all. God create the Masculine side and feminine side. He in FACT is Both. Stop thinking like a Human . that is filled with hate of something the is beyond their intelligence Or stop thinking as in term id Gender. we are all the same. Try if you can to think like God. Remember God doesn’t make mistakes. So, in Fact Trans people are not a mistake. Trans people are Not the freaks you take us for. You close minded fools have NO Idea what God’s Plan is. You so-Christians Judge so much. and Forget the word of God , “Just not lest Ye be Judged”, Remember John 3:16 . I am a Christian. I am Gender-fluid, I am Created By the Same Good you were. I am a Sinner this i admit. “Those WITHOUT sin cast the first stone” . Remember that the next time you sin and then have to repent. Sad day to Judge someone whom you do not know. How then are you so Holy?

  • Taking care of business!

    I suppose that’s why the Lord God is referred to as “He,” as well as the Lord Jesus and God the Holy Spirit. I suppose that’s why the Written Word speaks against sexual perversion. I pray for your awakening against your damning foolishness–It’s never too late to come to Jesus, the real Jesus, not the one invented to please and justify the liberal mindset and agenda.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    American comedies cause mental illness.

  • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

    “In the beginning, God created humankind in God’s image. God created them male and female, so God is transgender,” Wynn asserted . . . “

    This isn’t exactly what the KJV says, but then, different versions may say different things. However, if one thinks critically, exactly what does the word “image” mean? First, If you are a literalist, then you must go by what was written (although likely changed several times over the millennia). Consider then, that it says–“So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” Before creating Earth, then, one must believe that there was only water (Genesis 1:2) and god.

    So the question becomes; What was the “image” of god? Certainly it couldn’t be legs, for there was nothing on which to walk. Why would god need a body at all? Even further, if this god is supposed to be perfect in every way, then It is perfectly male and perfectly female. Perfectly good and perfectly evil. Of course, in the “good” and “evil” category, one must then define the words. Does good mean the absence of evil and evil the absence of good?

    Thus, in context of the “creation,” the entire episode is completely open to interpretation. That is why I use the gender neutral word, “It.”

    That the book uses male pronouns only demonstrates that the writers were male and they felt that (and wanted to empathize that) men hold power over women–and thus, male pronouns carry authority.

    “Because it’s true—I think Anne Lamont said this—If God hates all the same people you do, then you’ve created God in your image.”

    Very logical statement, and I’ve come to the conclusion that man has, indeed, created his gods. In fact, if you read the OT with an open mind, you will see that this god certainly did not “love all the world,” as implied in John 3:16 “For God so loved the world . . .” Indeed, many of Its acts were completely without justice or mercy, up to and including genocide (invasion of Canaan).

    As the famous, late Joseph Campbell thought, religions are masks we create with which to place against the unknowable. Thus, different cultures–separated groups of people–have created their own masks (religions) and applied their own emotional nature to their gods. That is why there are so many religions and denominations.

    • Reason2012

      First, If you are a literalist, then you must go by what was written (although likely changed several times over the millennia).

      You’re operating under the belief that God cannot preserve His Word, which is a false belief and makes your conjectures based upon this belief likewise meaningless.

      Psalms 12:6-7 “The words of the LORD are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. Thou shalt keep them, O LORD, thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.”

      And now we can see yet again why God made it clear women cannot be pastors.

      • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

        You’re operating under the belief that God cannot preserve His Word, which is a false belief and makes your conjectures based upon this belief likewise meaningless.

        You’re operating under the subjective belief that your god exists, which means any comment you make objectively invalid.

        Quoting a book as a means of proving its content is called a circular argument, and is completely and classically fallacious.

        Did you know that, according to the Bible, your god creates evil?

        • Reason2012

          You’re operating under the subjective belief that your god exists, which means any comment you make objectively invalid.

          You’re operating under the subjective belief that “nothing did it”, that life “just happened”, that matter and energy “just happened”, that the mathematically precise and reliable laws of nature “just happened”, which makes any comment you make objectively invalid.

          It’s down to belief verses belief, not the fact verses belief you think it is.

          Consider: If God exists, it’s TRIVIAL for Him to preserve His Word.

          If God doesn’t exist, who cares if we have the exact originals that the apostles first wrote down: it wouldn’t matter: it would be a lie.

          So trying to use the Bible to “disprove” God is silly at best – or to put it another way: you’re trying to use the Bible to disprove God while claiming others can’t use the Bible to prove Him.

          Quoting a book as a means of proving its content is called a circular argument, and is completely and classically fallacious.

          I didn’t say quoting the Bible proves the Bible. Refuting something another person never said as if they said it is completely and classically fallacious.

          But since you brought it up, here’s what will be our judge when we face God, proof that it is His Word:

          The Bible is the only ‘religious’ book that dares to make prophecies, several hundred that have come true after the fact of them being written down, even up to thousands of years later, proving its divine origin.

          Although it is not a science textbook, there are dozens of scientific facts in the Bible that scientists didn’t and couldn’t figure out until hundreds and thousands of years later, even as far as the late 1800’s, also proving its divine origin.

          All religious texts were written in one lifetime by one person – the Bible was written over 1,500 years through 40 people and reads as one mind.

          The grave of all false religions’ prophets has their bones – the grave of Christ is empty – although they’re desperately trying to find it to try discrediting Christianity.

          You can_kill thousands in the name of a false religion like islam, and people of that country will bend over backwards to help you build a church where you did it. You dare mention Christ, hand out a tract, and you’re met with the utmost hatred. As Jesus said:

          John 15.18-19 “If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you. If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.”

          This is why others love_islam even though they will_kill you in the name of_islam.

          Did you know that, according to the Bible, your god creates evil?

          Did you know that the Bible was not written in English? Did you know that evil is the result of what happens when people reject God?

          Think again, friend: when we face God it will be too late to say “Well how was I supposed to know?!”

          No one would pretend information can “just happen”,
          that a mechanism to decode that information can “just happen”,
          that the ability for those instructions to be followed to build what they say to build can “just happen”
          Yet that’s what we try to pretend when we even think “nothing did it” when it comes to life – let alone the laws of nature, all matter and energy and the mathematically reliable and precise order of the universe.

          Willful ignorance will not save us from the coming judgment of God for a lifetime of breaking His Laws, and refusal to be forgiven for it.

          I would read the gospels again and sincerely think on what Jesus said and did while He was here. Because yes, we just take it on faith that it’s God’s Word, without ever having to be convinced of it, and cannot explain our faith. However, what I mentioned above will be our judge when we try to pretend we were able to brush it aside and ignore the command of God to repent and put all our trust in Christ as the only begotten Son of God.

          Hope this helps.

          • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

            You’re operating under the subjective belief that “nothing did it”, that life “just happened”, that matter and energy “just happened”, that the mathematically precise and reliable laws of nature “just happened”, which makes any comment you make objectively invalid.

            Here, I’ll give you a quote from my writings:

            “In my humble opinion, it is more reasonable to accept the possibility of the eternal existence of energy, manifesting in one form or another, or even to believe in energy as self-causing, than to suggest that a thinking mind, consisting of nothing, coming from nothing, popped out of nowhere, into nowhere, thought about it, then made it somewhere.

            “For there to be a thought, or even a popping into existence, logic would say there must first be motion, and that which is in motion would have to become organized. There must be a causal link from movement to organization before a thought can organize.

            “And, for there to be motion, of course, there must be something that moves, which would necessarily be something energetic. There is an energetic precondition, Reverend, for every thought and memory in your head.

            “So, to boil all this down to its base element, even though I believe both propositions—existence caused by a god, and existence caused by no god—are irrational, I think the existence of an eternal energy field is less so because we know the energy field exists. We are a part of it. We have the observable evidence of its existence.”

            It’s down to belief verses belief

            No, it’s belief vs. evidence and logic, as my quote states.

            If God doesn’t exist, who cares if we have the exact originals that the apostles first wrote down: it wouldn’t matter: it would be a lie.

            Exactly. I’m sure you understand, however, that your statement lends not a whit of evidence to the existence of a god.

            Consider: If God exists, it’s TRIVIAL for Him to preserve His Word.

            That makes no sense if you are referring to the OT god. It DEMANDED that “his people” believe in Its existence and follow Its laws.

            Numbers 14:11 And the LORD said unto Moses, How long will this people provoke me? and how long will it be ere they believe me, for all the signs which I have shewed among them?

            Why was your god so obsessed with people believing in Its existence?

            And neither does it make sense if you are referring to the NT god, then,

            John 3:16 – For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

            I didn’t say quoting the Bible proves the Bible.

            So, why are you giving me biblical quotes?

            The Bible is the only ‘religious’ book that dares to make prophecies

            False. The Quran makes prophecies they claim have come true. So did Nostradamus, if you believe his followers.

            As well, one can interpret however he wants in order to force the prophecy; the Daniel time prophecy and the changing of time frame meanings, for example. The fervent search for an “anointed one,” at the culmination of the manipulated time prophecy.

            John 15.18-19 “If the world hate you . . .”

            Again, quoting a book you believe where there is no objective support lends not a whit of validity to its truth.

            >>>>It’s getting late for me. To be continued tomorrow.<<<<

  • Chet

    “Be not deceived, God is not mocked; for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap” Galatians 6:7, Holy Bible. Wake up lady…

    • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

      I think that you might read my post below and consider the argument. Use your intellect.

      • Chet

        Thanks you, Sir, but I have used my God-given intellect, if you will. It was God’s Holy Spirit who convicted me of sin and judgment to come and it was God’s Holy Spirit who convinced me that God loved me despite my myriad willful sins. It was the Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the true and living God of the Holy Bible, who willingly gave His life for me on Calvary’s cross, was buried and arose and ascended back to His Father above. It is this same Christ who will one day return for His own and rapture them away to Glory. And should I die before the rapture of the church, it will be the same Christ who will welcome me into His presence where I will experience everlasting bliss, peace, joy, comfort and never have sin and/or the Devil to contend with again.

        This was/is God’s free offer of blood bought salvation for all men, me included. I said yes to Christ and believed the gospel or God’s good news, Jesus saves. So, you see, Sir, I ultimately engaged my own intellect and free-will and agreed with God’s Word, the Holy Bible. Whereas I once was blind and full of self serving wickedness, I am now redeemed and my life has been wondrously transformed. Not that I will ever attain sinless perfection, no way, but no longer am I the man I once willingly was. Thanks for the exchange of views…

        • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

          No one can debate subjective belief. Be well and be happy.

          • Chet

            And the same to you, Sir. Meanwhile, I’ll rest in the finished work of Christ on Calvary’s Cross and be secured for all eternity, thanks entirely to the saving faith He gave me to believe, understand everything or no…

  • Robert

    Being Christian is a person’s trust in God The Son , that he Jesus died for the free and full forgiveness of that person.s sins. If a person reject that a sin is sin than how can they trust that Jesus had to die for them for that sin ? How can they truly repent never wanting to do it again and by trusting that Jesus had to die. for that sin of theirs to win them forgivness ? Especially the sins that are clearly stated in the bible as sin And sin that is not even natural. Is like a big red flag for the person to check the bible and see what it realy says.

  • Thisoldspouse

    Just an observation, but why do the fake leftist churches always go for the “high church” appearances: priestly garb, Eucharist (their version), and the old, old music?

  • Thisoldspouse

    Ask such a “pastor” if she recognizes ANY sexual ethic in a Christian community. The answers will be stuttering incoherence or silence.

    But here’s an answer from the large homosexual “church” in Dallas: basically, whatever can be done which is consentual.