Jerry Falwell Jr., Who is ‘Convinced’ Trump is ‘Christian,’ Bestows Liberty University Doctorate on President

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LYNCHBURG, Va. — The president of what heralds itself as the world’s largest Christian university, who declared during the 2016 presidential election that he was “convinced” that Donald Trump is a Christian, conferred an honorary doctorate upon the nation’s leader on Saturday during his visit as commencement speaker.

Standing in front of a backdrop bearing the motto “Training Champions for Christ,” Liberty University President Jerry Falwell, Jr. presented a Doctorate of Laws degree to Trump, joined by Chief Academic Officer Dr. Ronald Hawkins.

“In recognition of President Trump’s commitment to his country and to the citizens who have been forgotten by their own government, and for his unwavering determination to make America great again, and in acknowledgement of his bold leadership of our nation, with the powers vested in me by the board of trustees of Liberty University, the Doctorate of Laws degree is hereby conferred upon Donald J. Trump,” he declared.

Falwell also praised the president during his introduction, telling the thousands gathered that he believes no other president in his lifetime “has done so much that has benefited the Christian community in such a short time span.”

“President Trump’s actions in the last four months speak for themselves,” he declared during his introduction. “He reaffirmed this nation’s support for the state of Israel. He appointed a conservative, strict constructionist, pro-life justice to the Supreme Court. He appointed more men and women of faith to his cabinet than any president in recent memory.”

“He bombed those in the middle east who were persecuting and killing Christians. And earlier, he chose Mike Pence as his running mate,” he continued. “Just last week, he signed an executive order in the rose garden fulfilling a promise to return political free speech rights to churches, religious leaders and universities like this one.”

As previously reported, Falwell first endorsed Trump for president in January 2016 and repeatedly asserted throughout Trump’s presidential campaign that the then-candidate bears the fruit of one being born again because of his characteristic good deeds.

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“I’ve seen his generosity to strangers, to his employees, his warm relationship with his children,” he said on CNN’s “Legal View With Ashleigh Banfield” in February 2016. “I’m convinced he’s a Christian. I believe he has faith in Jesus Christ.”

Falwell made similar comments to Fox talk show host Sean Hannity.

“He may not be a theological expert and he might say two Corinthians instead of second Corinthians, but when you look at the fruits of his life and all the people he’s provided jobs, I think that’s the true test of somebody’s Christianity not whether or not they use the right theological terms,” he contended.

Falwell contended that those who expressed concerns about Trump’s behavior were violating the “judge not” clause in Matthew 7:1.

“Jesus said, ‘Judge not, lest ye be judged. Let’s stop trying to choose the political leaders who we believe are the most godly because, in reality, only God knows people’s hearts. You and I don’t, and we are all sinners,” he said in an interview with the Liberty University newspaper in March 2016.

Falwell made similar remarks in June when a number of alumni expressed concern about a photograph he shared of himself posing with Trump in his Manhattan office, as followers noted a framed Playboy magazine hanging on the wall.

“Honored for same hypocrites who accused Jesus of being a friend of publicans and sinners to be targeting me over a decades old mag cover!” he Tweeted.

In October, when some students denounced Trump as being antithetical to Christianity after sexually-charged remarks surfaced from 2005, Falwell asserted that, in their immaturity of youth, they were wrongfully “ignoring” the teachings of Jesus on judging.

“We are not proclaiming our opposition to Donald Trump out of bitterness, but out of a desire to regain the integrity of our school,” one student had written in a circulated statement that generated over 1,000 signatures of support. “We don’t want to champion Donald Trump; we want only to be champions for Christ.”

On Saturday, Trump spoke of faith often as he urged the Liberty University class of 2017 to leave their imprint on the world and to go against the grain.

“Following your convictions means you must be willing to face criticism from those who lack the same courage to do what is right,” he said. “It’s called the road less traveled. I know that each of you will be a warrior for the truth … I know that each of you will do what is right, not what is the easy way, and that you will be true to yourself, and your country and your beliefs.”

Trump said that America is a “nation of true believers,” and pointed to the faith of its early settlers and founders.

“When the pilgrims landed at Plymouth, they prayed. When the founders wrote the Declaration of Independence, they invoked our Creator four times—because in America, we don’t worship government, we worship God,” he outlined, generating applause.

“That is why our elected officials put their hands on the Bible and say ‘So help me God’ as they take the oath of office. It is why our currency proudly declares ‘In God We Trust,’ and it’s why we proudly proclaim that we are one nation under God every time we say the Pledge of Allegiance,” Trump stated.

He also praised the university during his remarks, and promised to protect religious liberty.

“Whether you’re called to be a missionary overseas, to shepherd a church or to be a leader in your community, you are a living witness of the gospel message of faith, hope and love,” Trump said. “America is better when people put their faith into action. As long as I am your president, no one is ever going to stop you from practicing your faith or from preaching what’s in your heart.”

“We will always stand up for the right of all America to pray to God and to follow His teachings,” he said.

The visit was Trump’s third to Liberty University. Other honorary doctorate recipients included James Robison of Life Outreach International, novelist Karen Kingsbury and Liberty University campus pastor David Nasser.


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  • BuckeyePhysicist

    The apostles didn’t believe St. Paul was a Christian at first either. If one doesn’t believe President Trump is a Christian then they don’t believe in God’s ability to convert sinners and save souls. Were any of our sins worse than President Trump’s? I didn’t think so.

    • Colin Rafferty

      So for the same reasons, do you believe Obama was also a Christian?

      • BuckeyePhysicist

        I hope he is.

        • james blue

          You “hope” he is, but do you BELIEVE he is?

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            “Hope” is the best I can do.

          • james blue

            Then by the standard you set in your original post……

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            I see positive changes in Trump. I see no change in Obama.

          • james blue

            I can tell what you see without using my eyes, I just have to sniff.

            I have zero problem with you believing or not believing one person is or isn’t a Christian. What I take issue with is your proclamation that if one doesn’t believe President Trump is a Christian then they don’t believe in God’s ability to convert sinners and save souls.

          • Demessi

            ^^^ This is why young people are turning away from Christianity. The Hypocrisy is stunning! Just admit it Evangelicals are simply members of a white idenity cult. At least the 81%who voted for Trump.

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            I can’t speak for evangelicals nor can I speak for white supremacists as I’m not a member of either group. If people are leaving evangelicalism they must be becoming Catholic because every Mass is packed full of young people.

            Here’s me: I’m mixed white/Hispanic, a first generation American, a former military officer, a pro-life Catholic, a scientist who denies climate change is man-made, and I proudly voted for Donald Trump.

          • Robert

            So why do you think your catholic church is packed full of young people?

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            Honestly? Our doctrine hasn’t changed in over 2000 years and this is attractive to young people because they like structure and consistency. When you come to the Catholic Church you know exactly what you’re getting. The next factor is the fact that we don’t pander to young people and we treat them like adults. They love this! We don’t add rock music or flashing lights to attract young people because we have Christ Who is all the young people need.

          • Chris

            “Our doctrine hasn’t changed in over 2000 years…”

            I have one word for you…’Limbo’.

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            1. Consistent doctrine for over 2000 years. Kids respect structure.

            2. Non pandering approach. We don’t use rock music or flashing lights to attract young people. They want Christ, not a concert.

            3. The Eucharist. It’s real.

            4. Solid teaching both at Mass and in religion class.

            Sorry for this “second message.” I didn’t think the first one posted.

          • james blue

            snacks and alcohol?

    • Ella Townsend

      If what you speak is TRUE, then God must be a lair when He so states we can tell them by THEIR FRUIT… Its not about God’s (Holy Spirit) ability to convert sinners and save souls when THERE IS TRUE REPENTANCE of sins!… Its about calling a sinner a Christian when he/she HAS NOT TRULY REPENTED OF THEIR SINS FROM HIS/HER HEART, NOR IS HE/SHE DOING THE WORKS OF A TRUE REPENTANT HEART, NOR BY TRUMP’S FRUIT IS HE KNOWN TO BE A CHRISTIAN BELIEVER.

      • Robert

        The verse your talking about is referring to pastors . A pastor fruit is his sermons because in them he suppose to teach the truth about Jesus him being God and dying for our sins . Thats the good fruit pf the gospel .Donald trump is a contractor his fruit is his buildings. if his buildings fell down after they were just built people would not want him as contractor. So tell me why people go to church that have pastors that hardly even mention how and why Jesus set aside his Godly crown and came down to live his Fathers laws perfectly for us and take his Fathers wrath on him self for our sins.

        • Ella Townsend

          Robert: The verse your talking about is referring to pastors .
          Please tell me where you find that Jesus is making reference to pastors ONLY here in this scripture? Yes, He speaks about the false prophets and their lying spirits, but God’s word in this passage is to hold ALL who confess and profess His name accountable, and this passage assures us in how we are to discern not only false teachers,but others who confess and profess themselves as being Christians in the name of the Lord.
          If a person comes to us as a Christian believer and says, he/she is in Jesus Christ, yet is known/found to be a great liar, a hypocrite, and a whoremonger… is this person teaching the truth by example about who Jesus is a being God who died for our sins? No! Nor is this person bearing good fruit of the gospel in his/her conduct, behaviors or words as having the mind of Christ or being in Christ as an example ans IS a false profit of his/her confess and profess.. His/her fruit does not bear witness to being a Christian, this is what Jesus is talking about…knowing them by their fruits, meanings their deeds, conduct, conversation and behavior bears wirness to who he/she is in Christ.
          The purpose of Jesus coming to earth IS as it is so written in Matthew 1:21. God does nothing without PURPOSE, He was determined not to lose His creation to satan, and He did something to save us from His wrath, therefore, He came as Himself (incarnated) in the form of man to save US FROM OUR SINS by dying a suffering death on the cross for us!

          Trump’s fruit is not his buildings, he does not own any buildings, Trump has made his money selling his name to go on other people’s building. Trump only manages these buildings that bear his name, Trump and his family are the property managers of these buildings and golf courses and restaurants. NOT OWNER….

          Trump’s fruit is his MONEY he has made over the years from selling his name to be placed on these buildings. His pride, arrogance, lying, boasting, conning ways, and crafty words are Trump’s fruits,and as the scripture passages so states: Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit.

    • InTheChurch

      The apostles saw a conversion, a repentance and a changed heart in Paul. He was no longer Saul the murder but Paul the suffer for Christ. Have we seen a conversion in Trump? When you see it, let me know.

  • Sisyphus

    I have no opinion on President Trump’s spiritual condition or status of Christianity; however, conferring a Doctorate of Laws to someone with virtually no experience in government or contribution to public policy certainly diminishes that degree and University.

    • InTheChurch

      I agree. Trump has 120 days in office and he now has the wisdom of Reagan, Bush H and W, Clinton and Obama put together. Liberty is a joke.

    • Robert

      Its a honorary degree There hoping Trump does not try practicing Law with it.

  • The Skeptical Chymist

    “…look at the fruits of his life…I think that’s the true test of somebody’s Christianity…”

    If this is Jerry Falwell’s test, and he can look at Donald Trump and detect from his fruits that he is a Christian, then it is no wonder that America’s youth are turning away from Christianity in droves.

    Really, you want to promote Donald Trump, sexual abuser, con man, payer of $25 million in a settlement for defrauding students in the Trump University scam, as showing the fruits of Christianity? As our last president said “Please proceed”.

    • Amos Moses

      i doubt most of ” America’s youth are turning away from Christianity in droves” because of Trumps christianity …… my guess is that they BARELY even know anything about him ….. they are turning away from it for many reasons ………. has very little to do with politics, politicians ……… they have been fed a false christianity …… a prosperity gospel that is a lie …… and they know it is a lie ………….. among other things ………..

    • Robert

      He is a contractor his fruits are his buildings there known all over the world as good buildings. What type of work do you do are you a electrician ? Than your wiring would be your fruit. Now what about you also being a christian ? Do you hold things against people or do you forgive them when they don’t deserve to be forgiven?

  • Ella Townsend

    Let not your hearts be troubled if Falwell, Jr. is convinced that Trump is a Christian… Jerry Falwell, Jr. is also convinced that he too, is a born again Christian just because he took over as president of his father’s university.

  • InTheChurch

    Until I hear Trump say that he needs to ask Christ for forgiveness of his sins, then I will believe he has changed.

    • TheLastHonestLawyer

      Trump? Admit that he was every in the wrong about anything? Don’t hold your breath.

      • InTheChurch

        LOL, I agree. It will never happen

  • Dan Smith

    Paula White said he was saved 14 years ago so do what the Bible says to do.. Go look at his fruit then you can make your decision based on discernment…

    Matthew 7:16-20 :Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree brings forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree brings forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that brings not forth good fruit is cut down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them”

    Notice this passage is the same chapter that the misquoted “judge not” verse is in? Oh, yea there is a thing called “righteous judgment” and it is based on FRUIT… Now go look at Trump’s life over the last 14 years since he was supposedly “born again”…

    Always be a light that is shininginthedark

    • Ella Townsend

      I suppose my question is, how would Paula White know when Trump was saved, if she hasn’t shown fruits of her own true salvation. Being on television doesn’t make White saved nor does being a minister according to what Jesus speaks in the same chapter along with bearing good fruits: Matthew 7:22-23 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

      Need I say more?… hey I’m for speaking the truth as I know it from God, and if Trump’s followers or anyone else can’t take the truth… then what can I say, but God has commanded us to tell the truth in season , meaning when it feels good to the hearers, and out of season, meaning when it doesn’t feel good to the hearers.

    • Puppy

      Paula White claimsJesus Isn’t God’s Only Begotten Son, she teaches that we are ”Little Gods”s She claims we as in MAN can become like God. She is a FALSE Teacher, who is leading GOD’s Children to the LAKE OF FIRE. She does not care about this, as she is one fof SATAN’s daughter, She has a DEMON living inside of her. THIS IS HER WORLD,She lives and takes pride in Satan’s World.

      Paula White teaches in a different Jesus, A JESUS That does not Save! Her JESUS IS SATAN!! As She has gone against GOD’s word and is rewarded for it.

      • Dan Smith

        We all must pray that she repents…

    • Puppy

      THE LAKE OF Fire awaits that woman she will stand before GOD One Day.

      • Dan Smith

        We must pray that she repents…

  • Robert

    I think the apostle Paul was more amazed that he was a christian than that some one else was. So if I see Obama or Trump or Hitler in heaven that’s no big deal. but that I’m there why would God do that for me on the cross so that I’m here ?

  • HpO

    This is as good as Heather Clark, “Billy Graham’s Muslims Are ‘Saved’ Remarks Revived After Son Franklin Opposes ‘Same God’ Professor”, Christian News Network, December 20, 2015.

    Good on you, sister Heather Clark, for keeping a record on the shameless relationship between Jerry Falwell Jr. and Donald J. Trump. For instance:

    (1) “Jerry Falwell Jr. … declared … ‘President Trump … bombed those in the middle east who were persecuting and killing Christians.'”

    (2) “Jerry Falwell Jr. .. said on CNN’s ‘Legal View With Ashleigh Banfield’ in February 2016. ‘I’m convinced he’s a Christian. I believe (Trump) has faith in Jesus Christ.'”

    (3) “In June (2016) … a number of alumni expressed concern about a photograph (Jerry Falwell Jr.) shared of himself posing with Trump in his office, as followers noted a framed Playboy magazine hanging on the wall.”

    (Source: Heather Clark, “Jerry Falwell Jr., Who is ‘Convinced’ Trump is ‘Christian,’ Bestows Liberty University Doctorate on President”, Christian News Network, May 16, 2017)

  • Amos Moses

    compromisers ……. compromise ……….

    • Ella Townsend

      right… and those who compromise the truth also compromise the truth for a lie, they also compromise the gospel truth about who Jesus is… and they prove who they are when it comes to parenting… they will lie and compromise the truth and lie for and about their children…

  • HpO

    Jerry Falwell Jr. endorses US President Trump’s belief in the Catholic communion of the undead and his testing of God that church persecution, inevitable and necessary according to Jesus and His apostles and disciples, can be eliminated so long as Trump’s the president.

    (1) CATHOLIC COMMUNION OF THE UNDEAD – “Don’t forget that tomorrow is Mother’s Day, right? I had a great mother, she’s looking down now … And Jerry (Falwell Jr.), I know your dad (Jerry Falwell) is looking down on you right now and he is proud, he is very proud, so congratulations on a great job, Jerry.”

    (2) CHURCH PERSECUTION AVERTED? – “Liberty University is a place where they really have true champions and you have a simple creed that you live by: To be, really, champions for Christ. … As long as I am your president, no one is ever going to stop you from practicing your faith or from preaching what’s in your heart.”

    (Source: US President Donald J. Trump, Commencement Keynote Address at Liberty University, Lynchburg, Virginia, May 13, 2017, transcript from TIME)

    • Ella Townsend

      So Trump is the savior of the Evangelical Christian right?… He sure isn’t my savior…. Christian are COMMANDED to trust ONLY in Jesus Christ and to WATCH AND PRAYER, we’ve already been shown and told about the comings of the end time, and Paul let’s us know they are going to get worse and worse… Apostle Paul also warns us of those slack (micro-wave) Christians who will gather people to itch their itching ears with a false truth and gospel, and end up falling away following after a “FORM OF GODLESSNESS” ….

      God sent His Only Begotten Son Jesus the Christ, for our comfort Not Donald J. Trump how has proven himself to be wicked and burden down in his own sins. I’m coming to know and believe that evangelicals who trust and follow after Trump as their savior have a twisted message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ in the first place, and they’ve got God and HIS Truths all wrong in the meaning of salvation and spiritual leadership…I’m just saying

      • HpO

        And “I’m just saying”, too, there, sister Ella Townsend, that I was wrong about Donald J. Trump. I really thought he could turn things around like (can you believe?) JFK, who, having started off very unpopular, became the most popular American president, up to the time of his assassination. No, I never liked him for making people like Jerry Falwell Jr. sell their souls to the Devil; nor liked them for lying to my brothers and sisters in Christ that Trump’s a born-again Christian, in order they’d vote for the guy who’s obviously just a nominal Christian by name. I just liked his original sales-pitch, that’s all. Drain the Swamp. Lock Her Up. (Hillary.) Destroy ISIS.

        • Ella Townsend

          I hear ya loud and clear Hpo. Many really thought Trump could turn things around…. and with the proper attitude and half-way godly conviction of what it means to be humble, there was a chance and still is a chance if Trump understood the true meaning of REPENTANCE….

          And the only problem with such thought of believing in Trump to vote for him in my view is, on what grounds (sand or rock foundation) were those thoughts and beliefs based upon? Faith is the EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN,….BUT the truth of such unseen faith that works, is based on SUBSTANCE and EVIDENCE of the already seen. In other words, God has proven Himself to be who He is, His handiworks, His beneifts toward us i.e.grace, mercy, and love), His Promises to keep, and by His own faith in Himself to speak into existence creation, etc. …we should have no doubts.

          Trump had/has no substance or evidence of anything worthy to believe in that proves/proved that he could/would turn things around, in my view, that proved or showed that he could or would turn things around as a good leader to GOVERN our nation. Trump’s work in turning things around have not been established outside of his con jobs on behalf of his own company business…to tell the truth, he has no track record of even turning his own business around, all he has done is started over and borrowed money to bank roll new companies to started over.

          Si I ask, What things has Trump done as far as good deeds for others in the community to help anyone outside of himself?… he has started several businesses and all went bankrupt…six times its reported… he sells his name (kinda like Esau) and manages companies for others and put his name on their buildings… and boasts in himself… like Bro. Nebuchadnezzar, until God brought him down… and this is where I see trump heading in a Nebuchadnezzar twilight zone, because he has elevated and exalted himself, just as Bro, Neb did…. and as Bro. Neb, Trump listens to no one and heeds no one’s good counsel. Trump is, as he has stated his OWN counsel, he covets money, power, control and authority over others.

          I spiritually feel Trump; has affronted God in many things.. if GOD placed Trump into office as many say, do you think God is going to allow Trump to continue in his unacceptable vindictive behavior boasting, lying, bragging, bullying, name calling, making racist statements, trying to punish Hillary for something he had nothing to do with or know much about with facts without God putting a stop to it?. Everything Trump has done and said goes against who God says He is, and forbids us doing. Don’t turn the strangers away from your border. Do you think God is going to approve such a wall separating the people, and Trump deceiving the people including himself, …I don’t think so. I spiritually think this is Trump’s time and season for God to chastise him for his behavior, just as God did Bro. Neb, and as God does us for our wrong. I can’t say it enough the principles of reaping and sowing is a truth. And so is Matthew 7:1-3.

          JFK had substance and evidence of who he was amongst the people and for the people, and was HUMBLE in his manners and character. Those who didn’t like him, only disliked him because he was a Kennedy and Catholic. There is no comparison between Trump and JFK… ZERO!

          All this Trump mess and foolishness reminds me of what Jesus and the Apostle Paul speaks about how many people who are not rooted and grounded in spiritual things will be deceived, enticed, fooled and lead astray believing the seducing spirit and lies of the real anti-christ. I Thessalonians chapter 2. And I do believe this is GOD”S test for all those of us who confess and profess Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior…Spiritual Discernment has proven its self to be lacking among many in the Christian community.

          Yes, “drain the swamp”…but Trump’s motives for draining the swamp was so that he could bring in his piranhas and cesspool alligators. Sure :”lock her up”, God says vengeance belongs to HIM, NOT TO DONALD TRUMP or anyone else. God also warns us that if we dig one ditch expecting another to fall into it… we will fall into that very ditch. God’s word is settle And He gives us much to think about when trying to vindicate ourselves and live and discern whose report we will believe as Christians…

          FYI… I am a Republican, but I refused to vote for either Trump or Hillary.I made the choice after discerning the truth about both. My vote would have gone to Rubio or Bush had they stayed in the race. Many of Trump’s followers think they alone put him in office, WRONG! Many democrats crossed over and voted for Trump as well… for sure there are NOT 56 million Republicans registered..lol

          A few passages we all should consider especially TRUMP: Proverbs chapter 26, Psalm 7:15-16. Christians are to DISCERN BETWEEN right and wrong, good and evil, left and right. We must stop calling evil good, and good evil without substance and evidence to bear us witness.
          Proverbs 6:16-19 says, “Here are six things God hates, and one more that he loathes with a passion: eyes that are arrogant, a tongue that lies, hands that murder the innocent, a heart that hatches evil plots, feet that race down a wicked track, a mouth that lies under oath, a troublemaker in the family (NATION)

          Sorry this is so long, but each time I tried to stop writing, the Spirit of the Lord kept me going…

        • Ella Townsend

          Hpo, I did address your comment on yesterday, it was posted for a brief second, then it disappeared. Dunno know what happened to it. Sorry….

          • Ella Townsend

            Hpo I found a copy of my comment I had saved…let’s see if it remains on the board…
            I hear ya loud and clear… Many who voted for Trump really thought Trump could turn things around…. and with the proper attitude and half-way godly conviction of what it means to be humble, there was a chance and still could be a chance if Trump understood the true meanings of REPENTANCE AND OFFERING A HEART FELT APOLOGY WHEN HE IS WRONG….

            And the only problem with such thought of believing in Trump to vote for him in my view is, on what grounds (sand or rock foundation) were those thoughts and beliefs based upon? Faith is the EVIDENCE OF THINGS NOT SEEN,….BUT the truth of such unseen faith that works, is based on SUBSTANCE and EVIDENCE of the already seen. In other words, God has proven Himself to be who He is, His handiworks, His benefits toward us i.e.grace, mercy, and love), His Promises to keep, and by His own faith in Himself to speak into existence creation, etc. …we should have no doubts.

            Trump had/has no substance or evidence of anything worthy to believe in that proves/proved that he could or would turn things around outside of his boasting and bragging, in my view, that proved or showed that he could or would turn things around as a good leader who knew how to GOVERN our nation. Trump’s work in turning things around have not been established outside of his con jobs on behalf of his own company business…to tell the truth, he has no track record of even turning his own business around, all he has done is started over and borrowed money to bankroll new companies to started over.

            So I ask, What things has Trump done as far as good deeds for others in the community to help anyone outside of himself?… he has started several businesses and all went bankrupt…six times its reported… he sells his name (kinda like Esau) and manages companies for others and put his name on their buildings, and boasts in himself… like Bro. Nebuchadnezzar, until God brought him down… and this is where I see Trump heading in a Nebuchadnezzar twilight zone, because he has elevated and exalted himself, just as Bro, Neb did…. and as Bro. Neb, Trump listens to no one and heeds no one’s good counsel. Trump is, as he has stated his OWN counsel, he covets money, power, control and authority over others.

            I, spiritually feel Trump has affronted God in many things.. if GOD placed Trump into office as many say, do you think God is going to allow Trump to continue in his unacceptable vindictive behavior boasting, lying, bragging, bullying, name calling, making racist statements, trying to punish Hillary for something he had nothing to do with or knows much about with facts without God putting a stop to it?. Everything Trump has done and said goes against who God says HE IS AS GOD, and he forbids us doing. Don’t turn the strangers away from your border. Do you think God is going to approve such a wall separating the people, and Trump deceiving the people including himself? …I don’t think so. I spiritually think this is Trump’s time and season for God to chastise him for his behavior, just as God did Bro. Neb, and as God does us for our wrongs. I can’t say it enough, the principles of reaping and sowing is a truth. And so is Matthew 7:1-5.“Judge not, that you be not judged. For with what judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you. And why do you look at the speck in your brother’s eye, but do not consider the plank in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye’; and look, a plank is in your own eye? Hypocrite! First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

            There are some who try to compare Trump to JFK out of desperation and false loyalty to Trump. But what they fail to realize is that … JFK had substance and evidence of who he was amongst the people and for the people, and he was HUMBLE in his manners and character. Those who didn’t like him, only disliked him because he was a Kennedy and Catholic. There is no comparison between Trump and JFK… ZERO!

            All this Trump mess and foolishness reminds me of what Jesus and the Apostle Paul speaks about how many people who are not rooted and grounded in spiritual things will be deceived, enticed, fooled and lead astray believing the seducing spirit and lies of the real anti-christ. I Thessalonians chapter 2. And I do believe this is GOD”S test for those of us who confess and profess Jesus Christ as our Lord and Savior…Spiritual Discernment has proven its self to be lacking among many in the Christian community.

            Yes, “drain the swamp”…but Trump’s motives for draining the swamp was so that he could bring in his piranhas and cesspool alligators. Sure, “lock her up”, God says vengeance belongs to HIM, NOT TO DONALD TRUMP or anyone else. God also warns us that if we dig one ditch expecting another to fall into it… we will fall into that very ditch. God’s word is settle. And He gives us much to think about when trying to vindicate ourselves, to live by, and discern whose report we will believe as Christians… “Destroy ISIS”, Trump can’t destroy ISIS! This is a demonic group that ONLY GOD CAN GIVE COMMAND OF POWER FOR THEM TO BE DESTROYED. This is about a spiritual warfare demon possessed people in a region that is known for its evil and wickedness… so tell me, how can a man who has not the power of the Holy Spirit of God working on the inside of him, DESTROY ISIS A DEMONIC VIOLENT GROUP? Again, this comes by prayer and fasting of CHRISTIAN BELIEVERS FOR GOD TO DIRECT AND GIVE AUTHORITY TO A LEADER WHO BELIEVES IN GOD FOR ISIS TO BE DESTROYED. How can a demon cast out another demon? … again I’m just saying…

            I am a Republican, but I refused to vote for either Trump or Hillary. I made the choice after discerning the truth about both. My vote would have gone to Rubio or Bush had they stayed in the race. Many of Trump’s followers think they alone put Trump in office, WRONG! Many Democrats and Independents who crossed over and voted for Trump as well… for sure there are NOT 56 million Republicans registered who voted for Trump… thinking-31

            Here are few passages we all should consider especially TRUMP: Proverbs chapter 26, Psalm 7:15-16.
            Proverbs 6:16-19 says, “Here are six things God hates, and one more that he loathes with a passion: eyes that are arrogant, a tongue that lies, hands that murder the innocent, a heart that hatches evil plots, feet that race down a wicked track, a mouth that lies under oath, a troublemaker in the family (NATION)

            Christians are to DISCERN BETWEEN right and wrong, good and evil, left and right. We must stop calling evil good, and good evil without substance and evidence to bear us witness.

          • HpO

            (a) That’s why I said “sales pitch”, which is all that he has, Ella Townsend, because, you’re right, “Trump has no substance or evidence of anything worthy to believe in that proves that he would turn things around”.

            (b) “Vote for him … on what grounds”? No, but on WHOSE grounds? That’s the clincher right there. My brothers and sisters in Christ didn’t think for themselves. Instead, they bought into the false assurances from Jerry Falwell Jr., James Dobson, Franklin Graham, Paula White and their ilk, that Trump was spiritually worthy of their votes. We’re talking church leaders’ captivation of their churchgoers. Focus on that.

            (c) “Trump (is) heading in a Nebuchadnezzar twilight zone”? That’s being generous, so I don’t think so. I wish Trump has worship-issues with God that Nebuchadnezzar had. If only POTUS’ problem is that he can’t accept that the God and Father of the only Lord and Savior Jesus Christ is the king of the universe. Then the only corrective measure he needs is years of grazing in the White House lawn; either that or just send Daniel version 2 over to him for a lesson in dreams or two. So, that’s a no: otherwise, for “God to chastise (Trump) for his behavior”, He would’ve done so to every US president from Obama all the way down to Washington.

            (d) Is “God … going to allow Trump to continue” the presidency? I don’t think God cares about America and its presidents, any more than He does about Bangladesh or Latvia. God’s Kingdom is a-comin’ – that’s really all He’s into these days since, I don’t know, the Fall of Adam?

            (e) “The principles of reaping and sowing is a truth”, alright; but they apply only to the evangelized and evangelizing followers of Christ Jesus. No need for Trump to apply. For first he needs to be evangelized and to evangelize.

      • Puppy

        I believe that GOD has shown me TRUMP is the Anti-Christ, three days before,the election I was shown a DREAM of TRUMP in the 3rd temple he had a crown on his head later shown a different dream that he would start WWIII. I was already told by GOD he would win as Trump is the Anti-Christ, the Trump TOWER is 666ft tall, he won with 666 delegates, the design he choose on the,Trump Tower building is 666! Jared Kushner owns 666 5th Avenue building in New York.

        I have never seen so many clear connexions to a man and the number 666 as I’ve seen with Donald Trump (no gematria or numerology required for the association either).Trump’s associations to 666 are clear and in our face; and this is how God operates. All of the people attempting to use numerology or gematria to associate a man to 666 were dead wrong.God’s prophecys come BLATANTLY AND CLEARLY TRUE. Trump flashes the 666, his nationalist minions flash the 666; and Kushner owns 666; and Trump is in real-estate and could easily be co-owner of that building. EVERY WORD out of Trump’s mouth,is a lie.He is the SON OF LIES.

        His immediate warmongering right out of the gate is also a great indication of what he is. The way he eliminates anyone in his way is another indication,His outright narcissism that I can only compare to nimrod is yet another indication. The Sanhedrin asking Trump and Putin to help get the third temple built is another indication…. The rage I feel in every comment by folks in the cult of trump is another indication. The fact that Trump hoodwinked millions of alleged Christians is yet another indication.

      • Puppy

        The SONG That was played during the BEAST (TRUMP)Rallies was called “Sympathy For The Devil” played by the Rolling Stones. TRUMP CHOSE That song to be played at his rallies. General McMaster just said on CSPAN. That the PRESIDENT plans on going to Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and Rome, to unite The WORLD’s religions Jewish,Christian and Muslim faith! And to try to create a peace deal with Israel and the Palestinians. He’s going to the Western WALL TO PRAY for the three Major religions,to,be UNITE Them as one.

        Revelation 13:18 says, “Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast,for the number is that of a man; and his number is 666.”More Fascinating to me that Donald Trump has designed the Trump Tower and put the number 666 into the design of that Tower the design he choose is 666 on his building. HE MADE Sure HE GOT the number 666 into his signature building.That tells me TRUMP sees himself as 666. The number 666 means it’s a man who’s identifying himself as GOD. it’s a man who identifies himself as the Sun God.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Jerry Falwell Jr. sounds like one of the few good men in the USA. Any who do not place the colored and the sexually depraved together are good men in America. Misunderstanding on another human being’s salvation or faith cannot be a deadly offense since no man is all-knowing. I think President Trump has something exceptionally wonderful and he derserves honors for withstanding all the attacks of the liberals alone. America’s greatest threat is not foreign elements but it’s own liberal population that is too immoral and ungovernable. If USA falls apart, it’s because of internal corrosion and nothing external. Besides, the Russians make better American citizens than the Dems.

    • Puppy

      NO! God’s true children will NOT be deceived by President Trump he deserves no HONOR as God has shown me he is the antichrist, written in the book of Daniel and Revelation. I ADVISE You Sister to please repent now, and STAND with Christ!.DID YOU NOT HEAR? What General McMaster just said on CSPAN????The President has set objectives for this Historic trip. NO OTHER President has done this! He plans on going to Jerusalem, Bethlehem, and Rome, to unite The WORLD’s religions Jewish,Christian and Muslim faith!And to try to create a peace deal with Israel and the Palestinians,He’s going to the Western WALL TO PRAY for the three Major religions,to UNITE Them as one.

      The SONG That was played during the BEAST (TRUMP)Rallies was called “Sympathy For The Devil” played by the Rolling Stones TRUMP CHOSE That song to be played at his rallies.During the elections off last year TRUMP got 666 delegates, The Trump Tower is 666 ft Tall, the DESIGNED On the Trump TOWER is 666

    • Puppy

      Revelation 13:18 says, “Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for the number is that of a man; and his number is 666.”More Fascinating to me that Donald Trump has designed the Trump Tower and put the number 666 into the design of that Tower the design he choose is 666 on his building. HE MADE Sure HE GOT The number 666 into the design of signature building.That tells me TRUMP sees himself as 666. The number 666 means it’s a man who’s identifying himself as GOD. it’s a man who identifies himself as the Sun God.

      TRUMP is making,himself identify with this number..Knowing FULL WELL it’s the Number of the Anti-Christ. EVERYBODY knows that.TRUMP did that because he envisioned himself as being the Antichrist, it is HIS GOAL and ambition. He WANTS,to,create the Peace deal with Israel and the Palestinians. He design it into his signature building.The number 666. And he got these Sun GOD things in the interior and exterior of the building.allusions to the,Sun GOD Apollo, Apollyon in the Bible THIS IS SATAN, The GOD of fortressess this is who Trump identifies himself with.

  • Croquet_Player

    If any politician’s religious “credentials” were an accurate guide to their performance in office, this might be worthwhile. But as we have seen, some overtly religious politicians behave very honorably, and some behave terribly. And of course university President Fallwell Jr. is obviously willing to overlook President Trump’s divorces and self-admitted sexual harassment. So we can see this for what it is, an effort to give Trump some religious bona fides to make him more palatable to evangelical voters and solidify that voting bloc behind Trump, and in turn to flatter and curry favor with Trump so he is sympathetic to evangelical voters. It’s a common enough practice in politics, across the political spectrum, and it can reasonably be argued that no politician can afford to turn down the opportunity for votes and favor, but I still find it grasping and shabby nonetheless. The time for religious leaders to honor politicians is when they’re out of office, to reward their good behavior over the span of a career, not when they still have an opportunity to do something for you, or you for them.

    • TheLastHonestLawyer

      The last really Christian President we had was Jimmy Carter. And he was a disaster. Not because of his faith, but his inability to realize that as President, you have to be willing to compromise your ethics for the good of the nation.

      He remains the greatest former President this nation has ever enjoyed. The man spends his days building houses for the homeless and working to free the enslaved. Amazing man.

  • http://maxfurr.com HobbesianWorld

    It is astonishing that Christians would hold Trump in such high esteem, let alone back him for president. It is the very height of hypocrisy. The man demonstrates almost daily the complete opposite of what Christians are SUPPOSED to believe–honesty, respect, reverence, empathy, etc. He holds no one in high esteem but himself. He is a classic example of a narcissist and lies virtually every day.

    Really, fundamentalist/evangelical two-facedness is breathtaking!

  • Faithwalker

    I am a currently a student at LU and are 4 credits away from completing my Master’s in Mental Health Counseling. LU is a great University maintaining its mission and vision of integrating education and Biblical principles. However, the University’s President need to step away from the toxic fray of the political arena.