Boy Scouts Will Admit Girls, Allow Them to Earn Eagle Scout Rank

(NBC News) — The Boy Scouts of America announced on Wednesday that girls will soon be allowed to become Cub Scouts and to earn the coveted rank of Eagle Scout, the organization’s highest honor.

“We believe it is critical to evolve how our programs meet the needs of families interested in positive and lifelong experiences for their children,” said Michael Surbaugh, chief executive of the Boy Scouts.

The scouting board of directors voted unanimously to make the historic change in an organization that has been primarily for boys since its founding more than 100 years ago.

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  • InTheChurch

    Boy scouts should change their name to Scouts. nothing boy about them now.

    • MCrow

      Statistically, there would be around 50%, but ok. If they changed their names to the Scout Corp of America, would that be acceptable?

      • InTheChurch

        I personally don’t care what they call themselves. I was never one, did not care to be and I made sure my son was not one. Scouts is not worth entering or being.

        • MCrow

          Nor was I, though I know a good number of Eagle Scouts who are now successful men

          • InTheChurch

            My optometrist is a scout. he knows where all the good campgrounds are located.

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    On my honor, I will do my best – Guess we can eliminate this one
    To do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law; – Guess we can eliminate this one
    To help other people at all times; – Guess we can eliminate this one
    To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake and morally straight. – Guess we can eliminate this one

    Note that the Boy Scout Oath has traditionally been considered to have three promises. Those three promises are delineated by the semicolons in the Oath, which divide it into three clauses. The three promises of the Scout Oath are, therefore:

    Duty to God and country, – Guess we can eliminate this one
    Duty to other people, and – Guess we can eliminate this one
    Duty to self – Guess we can eliminate this one

    DUTY TO GOD AND COUNTRY: Your family and religious leaders teach you to know and serve God. By following these teachings, you do your duty to God. – Guess we can eliminate this one

    Men and women of the past worked to make America great, and many gave their lives for their country. By being a good family member and a good citizen, by working for your country’s good and obeying its laws, you do your duty to your country. Obeying the Scout Law means living by its 12 points. – Guess we can eliminate this one

    DUTY TO OTHER PEOPLE: Many people need help. A cheery smile and a helping hand make life easier for others. By doing a Good Turn daily and helping when you’re needed, you prove yourself a Scout and do your part to make this a better world. – Guess we can eliminate this one

    DUTY TO SELF: Keeping yourself physically strong means taking care of your body. Eat the right foods and build your strength. Staying mentally awake means learn all you can, be curious, and ask questions. Being morally straight means to live your life with honesty, to be clean in your speech and actions, and to be a person of strong character. – Guess we can eliminate this one
    —————————————————————————————————————————-
    Boy Scout Law

    A Scout is:

    Trustworthy, – Guess we can eliminate this one
    Loyal, – Guess we can eliminate this one
    Helpful, – Guess we can eliminate this one
    Friendly,
    Courteous,
    Kind, – Guess we can eliminate this one
    Obedient, – Guess we can eliminate this one
    Cheerful,
    Thrifty,
    Brave, – Guess we can eliminate this one
    Clean, – Guess we can eliminate this one
    and Reverent. – Guess we can eliminate this one

    /SMH …………………………. (tears) ……………. (facepalm, Double facepalm, Triple Facepalm) …..

    • MCrow

      …wow, overreaction much? How are girls not trustworthy, loyal, helpful, kind, obedient, brave, clean, or reverent?

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        gee …. its called BOY scouts ………so all those things have been abandoned by the BOY scouts ……. they do have GIRL scouts …..

        • MCrow

          If they change to just the Scout Corp, then suddenly that issue vanishes. Your reaction is incredibly hyperbolic

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope …. they have STILL ABANDONED their core (corp) ………… i guess we can eliminate that one ………………

          • MCrow

            And you guys say millennials overreact to everything…a woman can hold to all of the tennents you quoted. Nothing in there mentions being a male of the species

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            again … it is the BOY SCOUT oath …… it is the BOY SCOUT law ….. and the operative word is BOY …………. not GIRL ……. “Nothing in there mentions being a male of the species” … and you teach English and “hyperbole” …. and you cannot even PARSE the words BOY and GIRL and see that the MALE OF THE SPECIES … is PRECISELY mentioned …… i feel sorry for those under your tutelage ……

          • MCrow

            Correction: the Scout oath and Scout law are international and transcend gender. Each organization varies it slightly (UK uses “Queen” instead of “country,” for example) but the tennents remain the same.

            As for my students, I set standards for them to achieve. I make sure that students who dedicate themselves can achieve them. I don’t arbitrarily set standards which boys, girls, immigrants or natives can’t attain. If a student doesn’t put in the work, they don’t pass, but that is the only standard I use.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Nope … BOY SCOUT oath and BOY SCOUT law …………..

          • MCrow

            Look it up. Scouting isn’t limited to boys or to America.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Look it up. BOY scouting IS …. BSA …. is BOY scouts of america …… BOYS …… there is a GSA … GIRL scouts of america ….. GIRL ……i swear ………

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            If you want scouting for girls,boys, transgender, and gays, create one yourself. And let Boy Scouts be for boys and Girl Scouts for girls.

          • MCrow

            I don’t need to create anything as an organization which allows all of them exists. It’s called the Boy Scouts of America

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Let boys have the boy scouts and girls have the girls scout. The way it was meant to be.
            Form another scout group for transgenders and gays. They can include both girls and boys. The new group be started in your town and grow to other towns. If you take time and think about it you might like the idea of being the founder of that scout group.

          • MCrow

            Again, the BSA has made their decision. Creating these segregated organizations is not my responsibility. If you don’t like their choice, you are free to seek alternatives. I understand AWANA is good from a Christian perspective and segregates based on gender

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Wrong and a bad decision. Thank God I do not have a young child in Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts. And perhaps Christians can form a new one for Christian children as well.

          • MCrow

            You are free to disagree, but the decision was made unanimously and you apparently have no child in the organization, so it does not affect you

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            It will affect the children and the parents in that organization.

          • MCrow

            I doubt it will. Generally, boys grow out of the “girls have cooties” phase with minimal effect. Having a boys only club serves no useful purpose

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Some may not be affected but some will.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            P.S. Boy Scouts began February 8th, 1910 for boys.
            Girl Scouts began March 12th, 1912 for girls
            All scouts began on ??? you come up with the date. Form this new organization. Let the other organization alone………
            May God protect the girls and boys who are a part of the
            Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts from people like you……………

          • MCrow

            Again, I don’t need to form any organization. The BSA made this decision internally, without any influence from me. I was unaware they were considering it. If you want to create an orginzation which arbitrarily segregates, feel free. I myself see no issue with their decision

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Than you really do not care for those children who are transgender or gay but only want to destroy the Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts. That was what I thought all along. I will keep praying about yu and children who may be around you.

          • MCrow

            Ah, yes, the famous ability to read minds granted to Christians. I care very much about children who are transgender and gay, hence my desire to not separate them and tell others to stay away like they are criminals.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            IF you cared for them than you’d be willing to start an organization that could help them……..
            These kids have a hard time as it is. I pray for them. For deliverance and healing.

          • MCrow

            Well, I have a safe space sticker on my desk, letting kids who are LGBT know they can talk to me without fear of judgment. I stop them from being bullied (often by “good Christian kids,” according to their parents). I tell them that they are no less people for their experience and that they deserve to be treated as such. So yes, I do genuinely care for these kids. I’ve also had kids come to talk to me about their Christian beliefs, and in some cases encouraged them to talk to their pastor/priest about their doubts. I don’t discriminate or segregate

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            I Pay God will protect even the gay and transgender children from you. And I pray for much healing for those children.

          • MCrow

            Pay him all you want. I will step in to protect them from your bigotry

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Oops I meant pray. Guess I forgot the r.
            If you knew how I felt about those kids.
            Perhaps God will let me face you on the other side of life. I pray He will. Then you will know. But until that day…………………
            Shalom

          • MCrow

            You think they need to be segregated away from others like they are lepers. I know all I need to about how you feel about them

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Now you are showing your true color of hate. And you will know the truth ((God Willing)) on the other side of life. Again until then………..
            Shalom

          • MCrow

            I suppose if it’s Opposite Day, then yes, I’m being hateful

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Opposite day? You just sounded like an immature child. And you claim to be a teacher? I’ll pray even harder for the children you ((claim)) you teach.

            Children need teachers who can act like an adult. They also need teachers who don’t sped their time going to a Christian site to ((harass)) Christians because they hate them.

            I will also be praying for the Christians you harass through your hate of them.I will pray God will protect them from you and your playmates.

          • MCrow

            No, children need teachers who are adults. I am able to distinguish my personal and professional lives and keep them separate from one another. You can pray away. I’ll continue to do something to help the children. I’m sure your thoughts and prayers mean a great deal to them when they get kicked out of their houses, go hungry for days, and have to drop out because they need to live on their own. I’m sure it means the world when they’re beat up for being “Muslim” when they’re actually Chaldean Christians.

            If me introducing facts qualifies as harassment, then by all means, consider it harassment. I don’t hate Christians. Don’t mistake my distaste of fundamentalist conservativism masquerading as Christianity for a hatred of religion. Just because I don’t like your version of it doesn’t mean I hate the whole of it.

            Thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers…that’s all you can offer, isn’t it? God forbid you do something substantive

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Children need teachers who are adults, who know how to act like the adult they should be. Not with immature childlike behavior.

            And I will continue to pray for both the children you claim to teach and the Christians you harass.

          • MCrow

            Thoughts and prayers…

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Prayers.

          • MCrow

            And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray
            standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by
            others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Coming from someone who hates Christians and hates thier prayers…….

          • MCrow

            I don’t hate Christians or prayer. I hate when prayer is used as an excuse for inaction.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            If you were honest you would admit that you do. It is shown in the way you treat Christian on Christian sites. And I will continue to pray for the Protection of Christians from you and your hate for them. And for the Children you claim to teach.

          • MCrow

            Again, I hate prayer substitutes for action. Christians called to action tend to be great people who make me respect their religion. Then there are places like this…

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You the truth in your heart.

          • MCrow

            I assume “know,” and yes, I do. My family is Christian, and I love them. I have many friends who are Christian and I don’t hate them. Again, the mind reading act is trite.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You may love your family and friends who are Christian. The Christians on this site are a different matter…………………….

          • MCrow

            I don’t know you. I don’t hate any of you. There’s no point in hating someone I don’t know. I argue against some ideologies, and again, public forum. If you think I’m harassing, report me to the admins and they’ll have an excuse to boot me.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            I do believe you do hate Christians even though you do not know them.
            And why would I go to the admins and report you? What could they do? Could they protect Christians from you? No they can’t. Can they protect children from you? No they can’t. There is only one I know who can. I believe God can protect them. So I will trust in God not in any admin.So I will keep praying. Besides if you got booted again you would make a new account with a new name as you have done in the past.

          • MCrow

            You can believe the moon is made of cheese. It doesn’t make it so. It is just sooooo much easier to believe that I hate you, personally, because it makes you vindicated. Well, tough luck. You haven’t earned my hate. You’re not worth it

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You just proved me right.

          • MCrow

            You know, I might have come to hate you. But someone pointed out you put my name in your profile. Now I realize what it is.

            You need me to hate you. You need it because it gives you the ability to turn your own hate into something justified. Which to me isn’t something worth hate. It’s pitiable. No, I don’t hate you. I pity that this…really is all you have, isn’t it? You have your opposition and that’s all?

            I’m sorry for whatever turned you into this

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Your name on my profile is a (part) of my open prayer to God to protect Christians from your hate. I pray not out of hate. But because I care for the Christians you hate. And in your case I also care for the children you claim to teach. I also have prayed for God to deliver you from your hate.

          • MCrow

            You have my pity. You need me to hate you, but I can’t hate someone so saddening. Sorry I don’t fit your obsessive need for all non-Christians to be hateful

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Hate is never needed. Hate can be found everywhere. Some of the most hated people are Jews/Christians.

          • MCrow

            And yet you need to believe I hate you, Christians, and apparently students whom I care deeply for. It’s just…sad. I don’t have another word for it

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            If you only knew who wrong you are………..

          • MCrow

            *sigh* I’m sure you think you sound deep and mysterious, but you come off as stalling. On the internet

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Sigh,face in palm, Shakes head. ( T_T)
            Have a safe weekend.

          • MCrow

            Case in point

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Again sigh and shakes head 🙁

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            May I join in on this prayer intention?

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Yes. Thank you.

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            I do not understand the hatred on these sites Christians in general and for Catholic Christians in particular.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Too much hate. Just pray for those who hate. One day it will end.

          • MCrow

            For your information, I am an adult to my kids, or even when I think they might be present. I don’t feel the need to act like an adult when your level of discourse can be topped by them

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            The way you come to this site to harass Christians, makes it hard to believe you act like an adult while teaching children. I wonder how many parents know who you come to a Christian site to harass Christians??
            You should be able to act like an adult inside class and outside class as well. I have seen 20 year olds act more mature than you.

          • MCrow

            Your opinion of my maturity means, quite literally, nothing to me. I value the thoughts of people who show themselves to be respectful and caring, which given your attitude on the topics discussed, you have not.

            As to parents, most understand that what is done in private time is private. Those that don’t…well, frankly, there is a reason why I keep my personal and private lives seperate.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            It doesn’t matter my opinions or your opinions.
            What really matter is the Truth of God………………………
            I still think it is important for someone who claims to be a teacher to be mature enough not to have to harass Christians on a Christian site. I will still be praying.

          • MCrow

            I don’t ‘have’ to do anything. If you want a Christian only site, it would be a simple matter to ban all non-Christians. The admins seem to allow all commenters. If you feel the need to hide, by all means, hide

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            As a Christian I do not go to Atheist/Agnostic or other Non-Christian sites to harass them. I respect them enough to believe they have a right to their sites without being harassed by Christians. Just as Christians have a right to their sites without being harassed by Atheist/Agnostics and Non-Believers
            You claim to be a teacher. I feel horrible for the children you say you teach.I will pray for their protection. And I will also pray for the Christians you hate and harass on Christian sites.

          • MCrow

            Disagreeing with you in a public forum isn’t harassment

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You do harass Christians on Christian sites.
            You know your motives and your intentions when you come to Christian sites. You just deny it.

          • MCrow

            I come to a public forum and discuss. I do so on atheist, agnostic, and mixed religious sites as well

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Again you know your true motives and intentions when you come to Christian sites……….

          • MCrow

            Trying to insert facts and getting called all sorts of names seems to be my regular thing here

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            As far as you saying you go on Atheist, Agnostic and mixed Religion sites as well. You do not do it on this account, but you do it on your other Disqus accounts. On your MCrow account you have only made comments on Christian News Network. I looked through your comments trying to fine just one to another site on this account. Not even one could be found. That was five months worth of post. You began this account on May 11, 2017

          • MCrow

            Actually, it’s simply that this is the only site I frequent that uses Disqus. Reddit, several bullitain board style forums, and social media groups like Facebook I keep separate. But what is your point? I created an account, and that’s all.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You have only changed your story because I checked your post and found you to be untrustworthy. Now you know why I would never trust you. But I do trust God and I will keep praying for both the Christians ans the children. I have found God to be trustworthy.

          • MCrow

            I never changed my story, and I stand by it

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            You changed it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            BSA ………….. IS ……….. hence the ‘A’ is for America ………. your continued attempts at sophistry and casuistry are becoming tiresome …….. you continually attempt to lie by obfuscation and omission and obscuring the truth …………

          • MCrow

            The B is now an artifact, much like how Amnesty International deals with more than amnesty and sometimes argues against it. Or how the NRA does not concern itself with rifle marksmanship but firearms of all varieties and ownership rights. I am not obscuring the truth, I’m explaining how a title is not indicative of the totality of an organization and how the things you quoted are bigger than the BSA

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope …. it is not an artifact ….. it is abandonment of principle and truth ….. and it is a corpse ………

          • MCrow

            Hyperbole. Look it up

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Boys Scouts of America ….. look it up ………….

          • MCrow

            As I explained, now it’s a artifact title, like many other organizations that have expanded beyond their original perameters. This is far from uncommon. The Secret Service was originally called such because they only had covert agents to root out counterfeiting. Now, they have numerous non-covert operations which include protecting VIPs in very obvious roles, but the title stayed the same. And now it happened to the BSA.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Correction: the Scout oath and Scout law”

            LYING by OMISSION …………….

          • MCrow

            No, I am going off of the worldwide scouting organizations. Adding information isn’t omitting it

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i am going off the BSA website ……… and the ‘B’ is for BOYS …………..

          • MCrow

            You are arguing based on a title. There are literally dozens of organizations where the title is an artifact of an earlier time. If that’s all you have, then you should find the Secret Service morally reprehensible as they hire non-covert agents.

    • Herb Planter

      Amos still going strong 🙂 keep up the good fight brother, may Jesus be with you always.

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        😉

  • Appleman

    The left has some strange paranoia about males going off by themselves.

    • MCrow

      “The left” is some boogeyman and divorced from this topic. Read again. This was an internal decision, unanimously voted on by the leaders of the scouting community.

  • The politically correct left leaning God hating America hating anarchist in this country have succeeded in destroying yet another part of our cherished culture and institution.

    • MCrow

      …you know, I’m just going to take all these reactions, copy them, and use them as examples of ‘hyperbole’ in my classes. It’s perfect

      • Whatever floats your boat.

      • Harry Oh!

        Wow, you’re really really dumb

        • MCrow

          I find the reactions to be the equivalent of a bunch of schoolboys being afraid to cooties

      • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

        I hope your classes don’t include ((children))………….. If they do I pray God will protect those children from you and your teaching. I believe if you are a teacher to children you are a danger to children.In case you are one I will pray for those children.

        • MCrow

          I do teach children. I have the good taste to leave religion and politics out of my classroom. If you want children to be raised not learning grammar and writing skills, though, by all means, pray away.

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Dear Father in Heaven I seek You on behalf of the Children this person say he/she teaches. In Jesus Name please protect these children. Put a shield of protection that this person can not break.Thank You Father in You I trust to protect these children.Amen

          • Robin Egg

            Thank you for the prayer in your profile. I have learned much!!!

          • LadyInChrist♥BlessedBeTheLord

            Prayer is a huge part of my life these days. Times are changing so much. People are changing in such. If it breaks my heart I’m sure it breaks Gods heart as well.

  • james blue

    It’s giving me no end of entertainment seeing the reaction to this.

    • Care to give an example of what particular reaction is entertaining you?

      • james blue

        The hissy fits….

        Example?

        Well ….Just sticking to the comments on this page and not comments from other sites….. “The politically correct left leaning God hating America hating anarchist in this country have succeeded in destroying yet another part of our cherished culture and institution.”, but the articles and comments on other conservative sites are comedic gold.

        • So you find the truth to be entertaining. That is good. There is still hope for you.

          • james blue

            I didn’t think I could enjoy it any more, but your umbrage at the fact that someone might find it amusing is somewhat of a cherry on top.

            If you think allowing girls to join the scouts is that bad and took that much offense over it then you have led a pretty easy life.

          • james blue

            Wow the censors are touchy today.

  • Herb Planter

    ****Trigger Warning**** FACT: Boys and Girls are different. Someone needs to tell the scouts.