Illinois Boy Who Identifies as Girl Sues to Use Girls’ Locker Room to Change for Gym Class

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CHICAGO — An Illinois teenager who was born male but identifies as female has filed a lawsuit against his school district as he claims that he has been prohibited from using the girls’ locker room for gym class. The district says that the legal challenge does not correctly cite the accommodations that have been offered to the student.

The 18-year-old, who goes by the name Nova Maday, says that he is unhappy with the outcome of talks with Township High School District 211 and asserts that that he has to use either the nurse’s office or a separate single-user locker room at Palatine High School to change his clothes.

“I just want to be treated like every other girl in our school,” Maday said in a statement after filing suit on Thursday. “Even after the school district agreed to allow another transgender student to use the locker rooms in her school, they have resisted and made things harder for me. I just want to be able to get dressed for P.E. class without having to jump through a bunch of hoops.”

According to the Chicago Tribune, Maday sent an email to his teachers in his freshman year to advise that he identifies as a girl.

“Information about me. First, I’m transgender. In case you are not fully sure what I mean by that, I do not identify as male, like I was assigned at birth. Instead, I identify as female,” he wrote. “I would like to state that my chosen name is Nova, and I would ask that you call me by this in class …”

While teachers began calling Mayday by his preferred name and pronoun, he was advised that using the girl’s locker room would not be allowed.

His lawsuit, filed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), asserts that because Mayday has had to change in a separate location, he has missed notes on the wall advising where students would be meeting for physical education that day.

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“Isolating and singling out Nova from the other girls by forcing her to dress separately for P.E. and requiring her to at times wander the halls looking for where her class was being held were extremely upsetting experiences for Nova,” it reads.

However, the school district says that the lawsuit is misleading and does not correctly represent the accommodations that have been offered to Maday.

“District 211 has provided caring and responsive supports for transgender students who daily use bathrooms and locker rooms of their gender identity in multiple schools,” district Superintendent Daniel Cates outlined in a statement on Friday.

“The allegations in this lawsuit misrepresent the accommodations extended to this student and District 211’s approach to working with and supporting transgender students. Every transgender student in District 211 who has requested use of the locker room of their identified gender has been offered such access, along with other supports within an individual support plan.”

“The Illinois Department of Human Rights has already dismissed this case, stating there was no evidence of discrimination,” Cates continued. “We will vigorously defend and protect compassionate, fair and equitable support for all students, and, at the same time, we continue to defend our supports for transgender students at the federal level.”

As previously reported, Township High School District 211 was previously in headlines over a similar request as an unidentified high school student requested to use the girls’ locker room at at William Fremd High School as he had been diagnosed with gender dysphoria.

But the district declined, citing the privacy concerns of the female students. It in turn offered a private location to change, but the student rejected the accommodation. He then contacted the ACLU, which filed a federal complaint with the Office of Civil Rights of the U.S. Department of Education.

The Department of Education responded by opining that the district had to permit the student to use the locker room of his choice due to Title IX requirements. The two sides continued in talks for a number of months, but the district held firm on requiring privacy for female students while offering various options for the transgender student, which were refused.

It said that it desired to “to protect the privacy rights of all students when changing clothes or showering before or after physical education and after-school activities, while also providing accommodations necessary to meet the unique needs of individual students.”

The Department of Education recommended that the district install privacy curtains in the changing area so that he could not see other students changing and female students could not see him. The district installed the curtains, but as negotiations remained impasse, the department gave district officials 30 days to settle the matter under threat of penalty, including the possibility of the loss of $6 million in federal funding.

The district soon voted to allow the accommodation for the student, but not without much objection from parents. In May 2016, 51 families, representing 73 parents and 63 students, sued the Obama administration over the matter, contending that it is unlawfully distorting and redefined the meaning of Title IX, and is forcing its wrongful interpretation on school districts.

“We support providing accommodations to students who request one, but the locker room of the opposite sex is not a reasonable accommodation, nor is it compassionate to their fellow classmates to demand this,” Vicki Wilson of D211 Parents for Privacy told the Chicago Tribune in light of Maday’s lawsuit.


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  • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

    This is exactly the case for bringing back old-fashioned morality and norms to our schools! When the T-man was a middle- or high-school student, well before I got Saved, such disgusting depravity would’ve never happened even among the satanic (a.k.a. non-Christian, Matt 12:30) population! If the father of that child wouldn’t have tanned his hide really good to set him straight, no pun intended, there would’ve always been pastors, teachers, other students, and every other member of the community. A nancyboy like this would’ve really had it, and would’ve been shamed daily until his family would move away, to where nobody would’ve known about him having been the queer that he was!

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    the direct result of NO OBJECTIVE MORALITY ………..

  • Amos Moses – He>i

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    • brine

      I remember many ‘professing Christians’ in the public eye going all weak kneed and saying “What’s next…this could lead to polygomy” as if that was the threat. Once you reach the bottom of the barrel on the sin list there isn’t much left not to acquiesce to on a societal level. Once professing Christiandom turned their back on truth the blind celebrated not realizing their hope had greatly diminished if not ended.

      The vast majority of ‘churches’ started tampering wholesale with the Gospel 50 plus years ago which led ‘churches’ being overrun by ‘religion’ where salvation is a mental ascent and work of man via some religious formality dependent on the denomination. Pulpits are filled with hirelings, congregations are largely ignorant of anything other than their proof being ‘God wants everyone to be happy so if it makes you happy that is your truth.’ Now practical holiness is considered legalism and emotion trumps truth. Sin is ignored because ‘God is love and has no discernment’. If our ‘experience’ doesn’t match the Word we don’t question the experience but the Bible. Accepting sin as normal and something to be embraced instead of abhorred is a natural fruit born from these things.

      Our local ‘Christian’ college has LGBQT celebration week demanding that students and the community buy into the farce or you aren’t being ‘Christlike’. Evil seduces waxing worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. Having a form a godliness but denying the power thereoff. Ever-learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. Scoffers, mockers walking after their own lusts. Turning the truth of God into a lie. On and on and on, with people bearing the name of Christ to afraid to speak up for fear of ‘persecution’ or being labeled contrary to what the world thinks as acceptable. Its all there in the Book very clearly…line upon line, precept upon precept….line upon line, precept upon precept…here a little and there a little.

      Christians that take scripture and prove things by the Word are now considered trouble makers dividing the flock and causing conflict. You can’t question anything because the Jack Hyles crowd bought into his lies, even spreading outside of his denomination leanings because it gave cover for the entire mentality of man as in charge (while spouting they are just servants).

      We demand God experience us our way on our terms as opposed to being conformed into His image and submitting to His will and way. We’re toast as a nation and will suffer the same fate as all other nations that have turned their backs on truth and righteousness. Worse than plagues and fire falling from heaven (which the mockers demand as proof of God) is Him taking His hands off and leaving us to our own devices, which is exactly what He said He would do when chastening was pointless…although the other things will still consume the land in their own time. And when the fire does literally fall and the earth wobbles like a drunken man…the proof they demanded…the Bible states that people will still refuse to repent but look to the heavens and curse God. I usually say ‘God help us’ but the truth is, as a whole, we don’t want His help because we don’t like His terms.

      • PREACH!!!!

      • This style 10/6

        Scandinavia seems to be doing fine without god.

        • ppp777

          That’s what you think .

          • This style 10/6

            No, that is what the figures say, on homicides, life expectancy, quality of life, etc. The Scandinavian countries are paragons. Look at the Norway has handled its oil wealth, their oil fund is heading for a trillion dollars. When the oil runs out they will have a pile to play with.

          • ppp777

            It is in truth a hell hole that is being taken over by islam , and Island has the highest rate of antidepressants on earth by far , so much for secularism .

          • This style 10/6

            You are either misinformed or lying. Which island are you referring to?

            The US is very religious and has a far higher crime rate than Scandinavia.

          • ppp777

            Iceland , America is a pagan / communist country now , it turned its back on Christianity a long time ago .

          • This style 10/6

            Iceland is hardly a den of vice.
            Unlike all those pagans.

          • ppp777

            It certainly is , it is a nation of bastards .

          • This style 10/6

            No child is a bastard. That is a dead concept, at least amongst decent folk.

          • ppp777

            According to God they are , that makes it an absolute .

          • This style 10/6

            What an unpleasant entity that god of yours is.

          • This style 10/6

            Anti-depressant use: Iceland 106/1000; USA 110/1000.

          • TruthvLIes

            So life is all about money. As they say, money won’t make you happy but it sure makes being miserable easier.

        • TruthvLIes

          Is it. So having rapes increased a 100 fold is doing well?

          • This style 10/6

            Sweden, for example, has a very severe view of what constitutes sexual assault. Rapes have not increased 100%.

          • TruthvLIes

            According to the report I read they have, so who do I believe a reputable report or a stranger who has an axe to grind?

          • This style 10/6

            Give me a link to the report.

    • Silas Jennings

      This isn’t a gay marriage story. It isn’t even a gay story.

      • brine

        Nope but that is the wedge that opened up the floodgates of all this perversion.

        • Silas Jennings

          Nonsense, that’s outdated thinking and bigotry.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            again ….. that requires an OBJECTIVE MORALITY that you lack ….. so again ….. JUST YOUR OPINION ….. and meaningless …………..

          • DrIndica

            And you are privy to this objective morality? You won’t find any such thing in that book you seem to like.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Moby Dick? ………..

          • Maxwell Edison

            Mocking Christianity. Flagged.

          • Silas Jennings

            No she wasn’t. She was making a statement about objective morality.

          • TruthvLIes

            And you have proof of that I assume?

          • Silas Jennings

            Just like yours then. We are even. One opinion is no better than another.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Despite your attempts at moral superiority”

            nope …. your moral opinion is based on YOU ….. mine is not based on me ….. and you even called it “SUPERIOR” ….. whether you want to acknowledge it or not …. you have …. my accepted OBJECTIVE (outside of my experience) MORALITY …. is superior to you ….. it is superior to me …. and your attacks on it ….. is not an attack on me …… it is an attack on morality …… that YOU recognize as superior ….. even though you deny it ……… so even in your attempts to deny its superiority to yours …. you acknowledge that it is, that it does exist, and that it out ranks you ….

          • Silas Jennings

            My moral opinion isn’t based on me, it’s based on common decency and empathy. I don’t kill other people because it’s not nice. I wouldn’t even know how to. The difference is you don’t kill because the Bible commands you not to. I don’t need a book to tell me that.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “My moral opinion isn’t based on me, it’s based on common decency and empathy”

            yeah …. see …. right there …. YOUR OPINION ….. and the “common decency and empathy” …. again … JUST YOUR OPINION …… “you don’t kill because the Bible commands you not to” … again …. that REQUIRES an OBJECTIVE MORALITY that you REJECT …….. you only have YOUR OPINION that has any validity ………..

          • Silas Jennings

            I have opinions like everyone else, but I don’t claim to be an authority, as you are doing. I don’t know what point you’re making. It’s my opinion not to kill and rape and pillage and every other horrible thing…find me ANYBODY would would say otherwise. What’s wrong with that? I’ve already told you the difference between you and I in this regard. I don’t do immoral things because I understand human empathy and decency and don’t believe in harming others. You don’t do immoral things because you blindly obey a book.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “empathy” is a FRAUD as having any meaning whatsoever ………. the A-THEIST Kim Jung Un has all kinds of “empathy” for himself and N. Korea ….. so just more FRAUD that A-THEISTS are trying to pull …….. and YES …. your only motivation is to set yourself up as JUDGE as to what is truth and what is not ….. we do not care …. we KNOW the truth ….. you do NOT KNOW the truth or it would not have to be proven to you ….. and we are not going to justify the truth to you to satisfy your need to be in control …..

          • Silas Jennings

            No, empathy means having the ability to understand and share the feelings of another person, and if you haven’t got that, I feel sorry for you. There is NOTHING fraudulent about it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you have not got any basis for your morality with that claim of “empathy” ….. if so … then show it ….. but it does not exist outside of your head …………..

          • Silas Jennings

            What are you asking me to do, point to some divine book that tells me about how to be a decent human being as though I’m not capable of figuring it out for myself?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you asked for the truth to be given you ….. you do not want the truth …. you reject the truth …. in fact …. you have just rejected again ….. and you are NOT capable …. or you would do it and you would not be asking …………

          • TruthvLIes

            I get the impression that you believe that everyone thinks the same as you do. If that were the case, why do we have jails?

          • Silas Jennings

            Ask me a question worth my time and intelligence. Otherwise don’t bother.

          • This style 10/6

            Doesn’t really matter what you say, Amos is convinced that a ravening horde of atheists is ready to rape, pillage, murder at the drop of a hat. Just like those ancient Israelites.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            his name is Kim Jong Un ……..

          • This style 10/6

            Is a man who is treated like a god an atheist? All the atheists I know are very peaceable.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            you are one and you do ….. and he does …..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            North Korea nuclear blast IMMINENT? US deploys ‘nuke sniffer’ as WW3 on brink

            he is one of yours ….. or is this going to be “No True Scotsman” ….. erm …. No True A-Theist ………….

          • This style 10/6

            Kim’s belligerence has nothing to do with atheism. It is power politics.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            sure it does …. he is one …. so you are saying “No True A-theist” ….. hmmmmm …..

          • Silas Jennings

            There is no such thing as no true atheist, nor a-theist.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yeah …. and no true scotsman …. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT ………..

          • Silas Jennings

            You want, oh, I don’t know, about 25 separate web links to the logical fallacies, including that one?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            RIIIIIIGHT ….. because it will prove it does not apply to A-theists …….. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT ……….

          • Silas Jennings

            No True Scotsman applies to ANYBODY who thinks they are the ones who get to say who is a true or false member of whatever group you want to name. You do it constantly, saying group X is not really Christian because they practice Y.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            SO IT DOES APPLY TO A-THEISTS ….. thanx for your opinion ….. we agree on something …..

            “You do it constantly, saying group X is not really Christian because they practice Y”

            NOPE …. i say it because they DONT hold a certain CHRISTIAN BELIEF that is CENTRAL to being a CHRISTIAN …..

            tofu and turkey ….. NOT THE SAME THING ….. now you can make tofu LOOK LIKE TURKEY ….. but guess what …. IT AINT TURKEY …… and you can label it ALL DAY LONG AS TURKEY ….. but it AINT …… and the same applies to PHONEY CHRISTIANS ………

          • Silas Jennings

            If an atheist was practicing snobbery by telling another atheist he wasn’t a true atheist? Yeah, technically I guess it could happen, but it never does. Probably because atheism isn’t a religion.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yeah … “snobbery” …. not part of the definition of NTS …. FAIL ……….

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            so when you go to McDonalds ….. and you ask for a Quarter Pounder with cheese ….. and you get your order ….. and you open it ….. and there is just a bun with ketchup and mustard and onions …… and you go back and say “Where is my burger and my cheese” …. thats just YOU BEING A SNOB ………… do you even get how stupid you sound ……. because the BURGER IS CENTRAL to it being a Quarter Pounder …..and so is the cheese you asked for on it ….

          • Silas Jennings

            Some Christians baptize infants. (In fact, MOST Christians baptize infants). You tell the MAJORITY of Christians who do this that they’re not real Christians. But those Christians, using the SAME Bible you do, baptize infants, and can give you their scriptural backing for doing so.

            But you don’t care, and you aren’t willing to listen to their reasons. You just say “False Christians” and walk away. THAT is No True Scotsman.

            And you are now trying to take this ridiculous snobbery and apply it to atheists “No true atheist…WHAT???) and hamburgers? Face it, you do NOT UNDERSTAND this fallacy despite several very clear examples and are grasping now to try to save face.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            again … NOT A CENTRAL TENET ………… and it demonstrates your near complete lack of knowing what you are talking about …….

          • TruthvLIes

            “Some Christians baptize infants. (In fact, MOST Christians baptize infants).”

            Tell me, why do you enjoy sounding so ignorant abut things you know nothing about?

          • Silas Jennings

            Catholics baptize infants. Therefore “most”. You lose.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            The No True Scotsman fallacy could apply to any group. There’s a good reason it’s commonly not used on atheists (at least, I’ve never seen it!) – there’s only one thing that makes an atheist an atheist; a lack of belief in any gods. There are no teachings that you must follow, no tenets you must hold to, or anything like that.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            but it does not apply IN THIS CASE ….. when you order a burger ….. and all you get it the bun ….. then guess what ….. IT AINT A BURGER ……..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            The thing is, you started this line of conversation by saying people like me or Silas Jennings would invoke the No True Scotsman fallacy in order to distance us from the likes of Kim Jong-un. Unless I’m not seeing some comments here, I don’t see that going on. I wouldn’t make that argument myself. I don’t think it’s his atheism or lack thereof that made him what he is. From what I’ve read about that whole “juche” thing, it could be described as an atheistic religion. (Note, that doesn’t mean I’m saying atheism IN ITSELF is a religion!)

          • TruthvLIes

            You are joking of course. Atheism is a religion like any other religion. If not why do they have 35 churches in America? Only religions have churches.

            Seems I know more about your religion than you do. Your god is me, myself and I.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Again, all atheism means is not believing in any gods. If not believing in a god is a religion, then bald is a hair color, “off” is a TV channel, not playing baseball makes you an athlete, not collecting stamps is a hobby, so on and so on. I know atheist churches exist, there are even atheist religions, as a matter of fact. That doesn’t mean atheism [b]in and of itself[/b] is a religion. Someone could be an atheist and also be a Unitarian Universalist, a Buddhist, or a LaVeyan Satanist, or probably some others I’m not thinking of. Or they could be none of those things, like most atheists.

            Well, though, if you know SO much about atheism, even more than the actual atheists themselves, then what ARE the tenets of atheism? Who is its leader, its central figure? (whatever you come up with ought to be good for a laugh if nothing else)

          • TruthvLIes

            Another post from an atheist in denial. The report I read came from atheists.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I guess I should have known better than to think that you would actually answer a question I directly asked you.

          • TruthvLIes

            No of course not. That is why he hates Christians.

          • This style 10/6

            I think he doesn’t discriminate, he hates everyone.

          • TruthvLIes

            Obviously you know very few.

          • This style 10/6

            I know a good many. Are you really telling me that the average atheist is violent?

          • TruthvLIes

            No, I am telling you that research is never based on anecdotal evidence.

          • This style 10/6

            So where is your research which says that atheists are more inclined to violence?

          • TruthvLIes

            The fact is it is not Christians that are ready to rape, pillage, murder at the drop of a hat. And before you make some asinine comment about christians, occasionally it does happen but it is the exception to the rule as research shows that if you have a religious background you are not likely to fall foul of the law.

          • This style 10/6

            How come the jails are filled with Christians?

          • TruthvLIes

            Yawn! An atheist who will say anything because he can’t handle the truth.

          • TruthvLIes

            Excuse me but how do you know a person blindly obey a book? You have such a low opinion of yourself to characterize everyone like that.

          • Silas Jennings

            I care enough about myself not to believe what an old book says just because it’s an old book.

          • Trilemma

            Your morality is based on your opinion as well. It’s based on your opinion of the Bible.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope ….. sorry …. wrong again ….. OBJECTIVE (outside of ones self) MORALITY does not have an internal locus …….. FAIL ……….

          • Trilemma

            It’s still your opinion that any morality that you have accepted is objective.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … again …. basic failure to understand the term ……..

          • Trilemma

            Using your definition of the term.

            Your judgment of morality is heavily influenced by your personal feelings and opinions of the Bible and therefore not objective.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope ….. OBJECTIVE MORALITY ….. ELIMINATES my opinion or judgement ………

          • TheKingOfRhye

            No, it doesn’t. You made the judgement that the Bible is the source of objective morality. Others do not make that judgement. And still others have a different opinion on what that objective morality of the Bible says about certain things. You can say those people are wrong, but that’s not the point.

          • Trilemma

            Too much alcohol will also eliminate your opinion or judgment.

          • TruthvLIes

            I don’t drink alcohol so that claim is irrelevant.

          • TruthvLIes

            I don’t know who “your” is but I can assure you that my morality is not at all influenced by my feelings.

            When I have a moral dilemma, I first of all turn to the Word of God and if it is outlined there, that is my moral standard. No feelings involved.

          • Trilemma

            You’re certainly free to use the Bible as your moral standard. But it’s your opinion if you say it’s an objective moral standard.

            Let’s say you have a moral dilemma of what to do with a rebellious son. Would you follow the instructions given in Deuteronomy 21:18-22?

          • TruthvLIes

            Trilemma, you must stop showing how little you know about anything. Thou shalt not murder is not an opinion. it is a fact.

          • ppp777

            A person should not commit murder because its wrong [ always ] , despite your feelings , if God says something is wrong that makes it absolute , you are clearly deluded and heading for hell , unless there is serious repentance on your part , but based on what people like you say I won’t hold my breath .

          • Silas Jennings

            Thank God I was never suckered into believing something so equally ridiculous and barbaric.

          • TruthvLIes

            So, when you are burning in hell you won’t blame God?

          • Silas Jennings

            I’m not going to burn in hell. You can if you want to.

          • TruthvLIes

            But the government does. Where do you think it got most of its laws from? Cloud cuckoo land?

          • Silas Jennings

            No, it didn’t get those laws from the Bible, if that’s what you are trying to sell me.

        • This style 10/6

          I imagjne you label anything you don’t like, as perversion.

          • brine

            I label anything God calls a perversion as perversion. Just as God labels some people as fools.

          • Silas Jennings

            God doesn’t. A book claiming to be God? Maybe.

          • brine

            You prove God’s point….fool.

          • Silas Jennings

            Once again, not God, but a book claiming to be God.

          • TruthvLIes

            A book cannot claim to be God because books don’t talk.

          • ppp777

            Not audibly anyway .

          • Silas Jennings

            It claims to speak on God’s behalf.

          • This style 10/6

            I guess I am a fool then. At least I don’t go around hating folk because I don’t like their sexuality. You people are the past.

          • TruthvLIes

            Can I correct a grammatical error in your last comment. You said “You people are the past.”I am sure what you meant was “You people are the best.”

          • This style 10/6

            No, I meant what I said.

        • TheKingOfRhye

          Now as a straight person, I resent that. I was a pervert long before same-sex marriage was legal in this country!

          • ppp777

            Perversion has been always around , but it is now rammed down everyone’s throats , it is now fashionable and your persecuted if you don’t embrace it , and it is getting worse .

      • TruthvLIes

        Your right. it is a very sad story

        • Silas Jennings

          I agree, but you make it worse.

  • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

    Where is the father or the pastor to tan his hide as apropos in order to set him straight, no pun intended?

    • Silas Jennings

      Do you also think that letting a little boy play with dolls will “turn him gay”?

      • Theresa Easley

        It will get him picked on.

        • Silas Jennings

          For sure, but if he doesn’t care and that’s what he wants to play with?

        • TheKingOfRhye

          Kids will pick on other kids for the smallest thing, though.

      • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

        Silas:

        Relative to “boys playing with dolls” mantra, the answer to your inquiry is very simple. Rather than onanising your mind with silly fantasies, you need to open and carefully read the Christian Bible! The Bible teaches us that it is unseemly and disgusting for men to be effeminate, and it is the responsibility of the father to ensure that boys grow up into proper men! It is also important to discipline children to knock any foolishness out of them, to wit:
        “He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes.”

        So can a boy play with dolls? Yes, but only if these dolls are proper and manly! Like those of toy soldiers battling the enemies of Christ or those of men involved in manly occupations like carpenters, builders, or preachers!

        • Silas Jennings

          It isn’t a “silly fantasy” to suggest little boys might play with dolls. It happens in the real world, and it doesn’t change a child’s sexuality. Nor is it going to make them effeminate. Those are ancient, tired stereotypes and you’re not doing anyone any favors by keeping them alive.

          A doll is a doll. I know you’d prefer it was carrying a gun to kill another human being, but let the child choose for him/herself.

          • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

            Silas:

            It may happen in situations of parental abuse and neglect, and in primitive countries like Canada. There is no room for nonsense like this in the US, and the Christian will not stand for this! It is very simple math, really: boy toys for boys, girl toys for girls=boys grow up to be men, and girls grow up to be women. So toy soldiers, guns, swords, cars and tools for boys. Dolls, easybake ovens, pots and pans for girls. 2+2 still equals 4!

          • Silas Jennings

            Primitive? If I get sick and go to the hospital through no fault of my own, I’m not on the hook to pay the tab. Tell me again how primitive we are.
            I’d buy the toy for the kid which was the one he or she wanted. You, on the other hand, would inflict it.

          • ppp777

            Who is the boss in your house , it certainly isn’t you .

          • Silas Jennings

            There’s only me so you’re wrong.

          • ppp777

            I would stay that way if I were you , [ totally incoherent ] .

          • Silas Jennings

            Yes, laughing at people who had had family members die sounds like something I should expect from you.

          • TruthvLIes

            Let the child choose for himself whether he carries a gun to kill another human being!!!!!

            Your comments get more shrill by the minute.

          • Silas Jennings

            And you still show as little ability to understand what is being said than ever.

      • ppp777

        It certainly helps to turn him into a reprobate .

        • Silas Jennings

          Got something resembling proof about that? No, didn’t think so.

          • ppp777

            The proof is all around you apart from plain logic .

          • Silas Jennings

            You are free to present some.

    • DrIndica

      Yeah, that’s the answer…kid doesn’t conform to your ideology, beat his rebellion out of him.

      • TruthvLIes

        So typical of those who believe their way is the only way evidenced by the pejorative “beat his rebellion out of him.”

        Who said anything about “beating the rebellion out of a child” I never once did that with my children and my son has never done that with his children. He and I have disciplined them which is quite a different thing to “beating his rebellion out of him.”

        When my son was about 14 years old we were sat down together talking and he thanked me for disciplining him because he knew that if I hadn’t he would be a real ratbag (his words).

        You do yourself a disservice by using pejorative words.

    • Trilemma

      Your attitude toward people in the LGBT community and you opinion on how they should be treated is, unfortunately, all too common. The mistreatment people in the LGBT community receive from people with your attitude is the reason the suicide rate is so high among those in the LGBT community, especially among those who are transgender. That you believe violence against these people is appropriate is very disturbing.

      • Theresa Easley

        The reason it is so high is because they are confused and have a mental illness.

        • Bob Johnson

          So do you also counsel violence against Down Syndrome, left-handness, or other mental illnesses?

      • TruthvLIes

        Trilemma thank you for your pontifical tirade against reality. It is so sad that you refuse to read the bible to see how to bring up children God’s way. Having a degree in Social Science where one of my main studies was the family which included studying research into it, time and time again, those parents who were guided by the scriptures as to how they should raise their children always came out on top.

        My son is a classic example. He has ten children and they can take them anywhere because they have been taught how to behave in public. In fact, many times a complete stranger has come up to them and complimented them on how well behaved the children are.

        And in case you are thinking that they must be sat upon which you probably are, not so as I have been to the park with them and they don’t stand around waiting to be told what they can do. As soon as they are told what time lunch will be they are off exploring or doing all the sorts of things that they like to do.

        My grandson is so imaginative he can pick up a stick and turn it into 10 different things. He is only limited by his imagination.

        You don’t like God’s way of doing things because you have been brainwashed in all this neo goody goody stuff where you mustn’t hurt their feelings or their backsides.

        I know a single mother by choice who has two children and she doesn’t believe in disciplining them. They are complete monsters.

        I know another one who refused to discipline her son. She said the best way was to reason with him. When asked what the outcome was (he is 18) she said he is a monster and thinks the world revolves around him.

        Funny, none of my grandchildren believe that.

        Parents who discipline “their” way usually end up being controlled by their children as I found out when I was employed as a housemaster at a boys boarding school for juvenile delinquents.

        They were a wild bunch but I loved them all the same. I did not have too much trouble from them because I used the ancient order of the slipper to bring them into line.They respected that because they knew they only got that if they had done something wrong and it helped them determine what was acceptable and what was not. If they were not doing wrong things they got love and attention which they craved so much. If they wanted to talk I always had time to listen.

        Overall, God’s ways applied correctly always work. Man’s way doesn’t.

        • Trilemma

          What exactly in the “tirade” was against reality? If the ancient order of the slipper left a bruise or welt then it was child abuse.

        • carolyn

          Could you provide references as I am fascinated to read the research that says to discipline children according to the scriptures. I never came accross such research myself when I studied Social Sciences.

        • carolyn

          Social science degree and a teacher who physically hits his child. Wow. Your immense education seems to have been wasted.

    • This style 10/6

      Too common an answer unfortunately. Violence is never the right answer.

      • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

        style:

        “Violence” can and often is the right answer for the Christian! There is nothing wrong with violent action, so long as it is Biblical and righteous. Take for example the many action of Jesus within the OT–where He as the OT God destroyed cities of various pagans and deviants just because they wouldn’t fall in line and do what He commanded them! Jesus even aborted babies of those he despised, as described in Hosea 13! Surely, Him rightfully doing that doesn’t give us the right to do the same–no playing God here!

        Relative to raising a child with proper discipline, that is not violence but what the nature and our Bible explicitly prescribe! When a child is misbehaving, it is the duty of the parents, especially the father (Eph 5:23), to administer the “rod of correction!” (Proverbs 22:15, affirmed by example in Hebrews 12:6-7).

        • This style 10/6

          I believe that beating your child with a rod is illegal in most US states. It certainly is in Canada.

          If you can’t raise decent kids without beating them you should not be allowed to have children.

          Most warfare is wrong, Vietnam for example. The war against the Nazis was justified and Japan forced the war on the US.

          • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

            style:

            Relative to your proposition that disciplining a child, as is to be done by parents, pastors, and teachers, is equivalent to beating only betrays your lack of wits and Biblical knowledge! The disciplining of a child is legal everywhere in the US, even in Los Angeles, California where my ministry is located. So what do we tell parents whose children act like they are of different gender or bring up this “transgenderism” nonsense? We tell them to knock it out of them, duh!

            As Christians, we aren’t raising our children to be a bunch of wimps, p***ies, and nancyboys. Got it? We’re raising them to men and soldiers for Christ, just like those that thought for God and our country in various heathen lands and various just and righteous wars in Korea, Vietnam and Iraq. Remember that Bradley Manning, the one that tried to turn himself into a woman? It is treason like that befalls our country from not raising our children right and not using the rod of correction!

          • This style 10/6

            I suppose you realise that you contradict yourself. You also come across as a bigot and bully. Someone who believes that a war based on a lie, Iraq, was righteous. Tell that to the millions who died.

            I am sorry to hear that beating children is legal in the US. I am fortunate to live in Canada, where it is not.

          • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

            style:

            Here’s a suggestion: you may not want to advertise being from Canada as to avoid people laughing at you. You can thank the T-man for these words of wisdom later.

            Relative to corrective discipline of children, it is not beating. Jesus gave you brains, try using them to derive this very simple logical syllogism.

          • This style 10/6

            What do you call hitting kids with a stick or other object?

            I am proud to be Canadian, a country I chose, and will never stop advertising the fact. The opinion of such as you is of no account.

          • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

            style and Silas:

            Your posts here only show why the Christian takes you for the laughingstock that you are! Maybe it is a good thing that the two of you, birds of a feather, live in an effeminate country that’s wetting its pants over our POTUS’ (heathen though he may be) plans to end NAFTA. Well, in our country we still have real men who will not stand for this kind of thing! If a man can’t be a real man, he will be treated like the nancyboy that he is, and will bring shame and disgust upon his whole family. Had his mother, and other sisters of Eve like her, been set straight a long time ago, this manner of freakery would NOT have been happening in the first place.

          • This style 10/6

            Are you afraid to answer my plain question?

            What do you call hitting kids with a stick or other object?

          • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

            style:

            Do you really think this red-bloodies American male preacher is afraid of your inane questions? As they say nowadays, LOL! Your dicacious collocation of simple terms betrays your infantile attempts to muddy the waters about this very simple matter.

            The Christian suspects that you know full well the difference between beating and discipline. Or maybe you got a little cold on the head up there, north of border, so that you cannot tell the difference. Relative to these simple matters, the answer to your question is that it depends on the nature of what is happening, duh! If it is corrective punishment, then it is not a beating. If the adult hits a child (or husband hits his wife) for the purpose of being abusive, rather than being corrective, then it is a beating, and is unacceptable.

            You can thank me for educating you relative to this very simple matter later.

          • Trilemma

            It’s child abuse if an adult hits a child and leaves a mark that lasts more than 10 minutes even if it was for corrective purposes.

            How often do you spank your wife for corrective purposes?

          • ppp777

            People like you leave a lot worse mark on children than a physical beating could ever do .

          • TruthvLIes

            Yes that is quite true. Both my wife and I are retired teachers and we could always tell which kids in the class are disciplined and which ones are not.

          • Trilemma

            People like what?

          • TruthvLIes

            I have been married for 48 years and I have never touched my wife in anger once.

          • Trilemma

            Tony Demarcus Ph.D., D.D. believes in wife spanking for corrective purposes. Have you ever spanked or otherwise struck you wife for corrective purposes?

          • This style 10/6

            So you condone not only child abuse but wife abuse. Men end up in jail for that kind of thing. That is in any decent jurisdiction.

          • ppp777

            Its called correction , discipline , chastisement , beating sense into them , bringing them up to be level headed men and women keeping them out of hell .

          • This style 10/6

            Just your every day family activity then!

          • ppp777

            I will treat that comment with the contempt it deserves .

          • This style 10/6

            I assumed you were using sarcasm. Were you serious?

          • TruthvLIes

            And were you serious comparing disciplining children to war?

          • This style 10/6

            I did not do so.

          • TruthvLIes

            As I have pointed out in another post you did.

          • This style 10/6

            Compounding your lie.

          • TruthvLIes

            Quite so ppp

          • Silas Jennings

            You sound like the kind of guy who when asked what Jesus would do pulls out an AK-47.

          • Silas Jennings

            I live in Canada too. It’s nice here, people don’t beat their children over things that are beyond their control. And practically no one supports your current mockery of a president.

          • TruthvLIes

            More silly comment from an atheist. Because both my wife and I lost our fathers in WW2, I have been interested in what happened. I can assure you that disciplining a child has no comparison to war.

            i did not use a gun on them. I did not beat them to an inch of their life. I did not put them in a concentration camp. I did not kick them in the ribs. I did not feed them on subsistence rations. I did not make them go though drills each day. I did not make them run for hours with a heavy backpack on.

            So if that is the best you can do, perhaps it is better you keep your comments to yourself to save your embarrassment.

          • This style 10/6

            As I did not make that comparison I am not embarrassed.

          • TruthvLIes

            You said and I quote “Most warfare is wrong, Vietnam for example. The war against the Nazis was justified and Japan forced the war on the US.”

            So you did make the comment.

          • This style 10/6

            How does that compare child abuse to warfare?

      • ppp777

        Its because of that attitude the world is in the state it is in now .

      • TruthvLIes

        People who discipline thier children do not use violence which is defined by the World Health Organization as “the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation”,

        I have been around christian parents with children for 60 years now and where this has happened I can count on one hand.

        I suggest you drop the pejoratives if you want to be taken seriously.

        • This style 10/6

          I don’t care how you take me. Beating children is wrong and in many places is a criminal offence.
          Men or women who beat children should lose them.

          • TruthvLIes

            I never said anything about beating children. You make the unfounded accusation.

          • This style 10/6

            You certainly implied that some Christian people use corporal punishment on their children and wives.

    • Silas Jennings

      Your solution is to resort to violence. Great.

    • Theo

      We are reaping the results of undisciplined kids. I’m betting these parents were spoiled brats too. Sickening.

    • TheKingOfRhye

      For one thing, she’s 18, so legally an adult at this point…..

  • BravesFan

    You don’t get treated like “all the other girls” because you are NOT a girl, you are a confused boy. Girls deserve privacy, the end. Nobody should be forced to change with a member of the opposite sex.

  • Trilemma

    Nova said, “I just want to be treated like every other girl in our school,” and she should be treated like every other girl at school. She should be treated with the same respect and compassion and have the same opportunities as every other girl. But her body is not the same as every other girl and she needs to accept alternate accommodations in some circumstances such as locker room showers. The body of someone confined to a wheelchair is not the same as every other person so they have to accept alternate accommodations in certain circumstances. But they should be treated the same as everyone else too. Nova needs to accept that her body is male and accept the limitations that entails until she can get gender confirmation surgery.

    • TruthvLIes

      Why should she be treated as a girl when “she” is a boy?

      • Trilemma

        She knows herself better than you do.

  • bowie1

    Nova Maday looks and sounds like a boy with his lower voice. Does he have no consideration for the girls in the locker room who might be embarrassed to undress with him present even if he identifies as a girl?

    • TruthvLIes

      People on a personal crusade to throw over the traces never consider others.

  • Sam

    You are a boy. Thats what God created you. It dont matter what you identify as Get over it

  • Maxwell Edison

    It all comes down to three things:

    1) This boy is mentally disturbed.
    2) He wants everyone around him to indulge in this illness, even by force.
    3) No.

  • chickenpatti13

    Why do the normal,modest teenage girls have to give up privacy to placate a freak male that thinks he is a female?I wouldn’t have wanted to undress in front of a male,regardless what he thinks.Why do the freaks get to impose on good,God fearing young ladies and their modesty.They have rights,too,and they shouldn’t be infringed upon by a confused freak with nothing better to do but create chaos and infringe upon the rights of others.

  • Theo

    Child abuse, pure and simple. These parents should lose custody of the kid and never be allowed within a mile of any child, ever. This nonsense would end in a hurry if these abusive parents were dealt with swiftly.

    • Trilemma

      Nova is an adult. But even if she were still a child, foster parents would affirm her gender identity.

      • Affirmation feeds the psychosis and makes it worse. They need Jesus.

        • Trilemma

          Refusing to recognize her identity and forcing her to live as a boy will not cure her of this so called psychosis. There are Christians who are also transgender.

          • He is not a girl. He is under a demonic delusion just as all that is LGBT is.

          • Trilemma

            So, which is it, a psychosis or demonic delusion? A person with a psychosis needs psychotherapy. A person with a demonic delusion needs an exorcism.

          • Psychotic demonic delusion which describes all of the LGBT.

          • ppp777

            ” Christian ” , now that’s funny .

          • Trilemma

            There are Christians who are transgender. Why do you think that’s funny?

          • Maxwell Edison

            It’s a good thing I wasn’t eating or drinking when I read that one. The woman sitting across from me wouldn’t have appreciated that.

          • TruthvLIes

            I have noticed that Christians are everything if it suits the agenda.

          • Kevin Carr

            What does his chromosome pattern say he is? That will never change, he will never have a period, never bear a child or have the potential to bear children, he has the ability (if he hasn’t cosmetically altered himself) to father them. All the surgeries and hormones do is a cosmetic alteration. There will be no change to his DNA or chromosomes, they will still show male. As I stated, if a person is anorexic or bulimic, they are not accommodated in that belief, why? Doesn’t what they believe about themselves override everything else? Can what they believe be an indicator that there is some mental and/or spiritual issue.

      • ppp777

        He not a she , your just as reprobate as he is .

    • Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D.

      Theo:

      You are correct relative to the right course of action here! The child needed to be taken into CPC custody a long time ago, and should’ve been put into a good Christian boarding school. There, they’d knock all this nonsense about him “being a girl” or “feeling” this or that rather quickly! What these effeminate boys need is a boot up their a** in proper manly environment, not “accomodation” to play into their fantasies.

      • Trilemma

        Child protection services would never knowingly put a child in the abusive environment you seem to think is appropriate. Such abuse would not do any good anyway.

  • Eldrida Urika

    I thought of a perfect solution for anyone who is not male or female or whatever, make a 3rd change room washroom with the idea that the ones that are not bothered by the transgender child can go in with them to change too. I’m focusing on not making the transgenders stand out from the rest, or the people who use the gender specific rooms that are uncomfortable with the situation There should be no reason that they are considered anti transgender because they are not comfortable if all the other time they do not reflect that. No stigma or anything to make them or anyone need to give up the privacy of those that want to keep it, including Christians. So one would be anyone’s (even restricted by times is reasonable) or genderless for everyone to use and the other two allow for the privacy of the others too. It’s a win win for both sides and when in the future these might not be necessary, it can be changed, but it would be worth the money for them simply because of how long this acceptance is going to take, so when it isn’t a problem, it can be removed.
    I’m curious if anyone can say this is encouraging or discouraging our beliefs because they will not change if we are truly faithful, and it is a fact that, unfortunately for ‘some’, they are here and our children need to be taught both our beliefs and how to cope within the world as an adult or young adult, with those beliefs intact, so tolerance is the only way to go that will not likely cause problems.
    Keep in mind this young generation has friends and classmates who are different and they are already able to accept them because of the mingling at school, makes it normal to those kids. If we were in a situation where there were transgender in our work, we’d better be tolerant of their difference or be fired in the businesses today.
    You also have to remember that high schools have a lot of diverse people in them and too many ways to accommodate all the things that are coming up in this World of theirs. They have taken our ability to pass on The Word away from the school and have left us no choice but to learn tolerance regardless of what we feel if we are to be or work in that world. People are getting fired for it, for the Lord’s sake, and that’s unreasonable because their belief is equal to our belief and should be allowed to exist just like their belief is as long as the verbal abuse is not accepted by society, they can live in peace with the people who are comfortable and the ones that are not, are able to choose which belief they want to align themselves to from the 3 choices.

    • TheKingOfRhye

      I’m all for gender-neutral restrooms (after all, we’ve had them in various places for a while, called “family restrooms”) but it’s simply not practical to go install them everywhere there might be a transgender person.

      • Eldrida Urika

        family rooms are there for the opposite sex parent to be able to be in the same room as their child (fathers with daughters, mothers with sons) that was the intention when they came into existence.
        Gender neutral is still an offense to a lot of people King, and it does not have to be intolerance if it is only about privacy issues either
        By having the choice, everyone has the same privileges not one over the other.
        I am very against force when it comes to decisions made for large people and I think it is being looked at wrong in this case.
        By giving the people who want to feel included with the ones they feel they are a part of , you are taking the right of privacy from any who do not want to be in that situation.
        In this case anyway, it isn’t about the minority and the majority. It is about individuals in every case. one against the other should have equal rights and this is allowing that to be upheld.
        It is like this, in case you didn’t understand that… One transgender in a school wants to be with the other – lets say girls – so they want the equal right to choose and use the bathroom/change room they want to. right?
        So one – or more – are not comfortable with the idea, but others are not troubled by it at all, but it is still on an individual basis not as a group against it. Each student should have the right to choose and not be put into uncomfortable situations any more than the trans student is asking for. it is the exact same right to each person giving them the choice of where they want to be and it allows for the transgenders to be with the people they want to be included with.
        The thing is not about one majority of people against one minority. It is about each person involved not as a group.
        so everyone has the equal right to be able to have that choice possible
        Does that help with this issue? that is why I feel every issue has to be looked at on it’s own and not looked at as one of the ‘other’ cases because there can be differences like this that should have made the difference in a law/ruling too.
        a blanket ruling that one person can change the majority is not considering all aspects of each case at all, they are giving all the rights to those minority at the cost of removing those rights from others when there can be some things that are not actually about minorities and majorities but the individuals and not the groups. which makes it a thing about the same equal rights the trans want but for everyone.
        Blessings King. I will be off line shortly for a while so I will look for you when I get back ok?

    • ppp777

      Oh boy .

      • Eldrida Urika

        oh boy…. You again!! lol I’m glad to see you before I am off for a while.
        Health issues are a plague at my age unfortunately.
        I am guessing you don’t agree with the solution? It means we still have the ability to have privacy we want and it means they don’t have a privilege that we don’t also have this way.
        I will look for you when I get back.
        God bless you! Take care of yourself until I return ok?

        • ppp777

          Yes its me again , I won’t spoil things by commenting on those individuals [ as tempting as it is ] , anyway I was watching a very immotional music track on you tube , well I will tell you about it when your better , at the moment may I wish you God speed , and thank you for the good wishes .

  • Vince

    What kind of future would you predict for this young man? Does anyone think he will be happy and well-adjusted when he’s 30? 40? I think we all know the answer. Thanks to the ACLU and his doting (and foolish) mother, he’s been programmed to see himself as a victim, and someone deserving of special treatment. He’s being taught that instead of achieving success on his own, as an individual, he’s merely the innocent victim of evil forces outside himself. Over his lifetime, psychologists and the drug companies will make a fortune off him and others like him.

    • Silas Jennings

      You’re right, she probably has a very difficult life ahead, so why do you think the solution is to fight her on it? Why would you force on her the very thing that’s making her life a living hell? Where is your compassion?

      • Playing into his psychotic delusion is only making it worse for him. Like all of us, he and his parents need Jesus.

        PS…..love that beagle pic.

        • Silas Jennings

          She isn’t going to be any less of a transgendered person with Jesus in her life, nor any other historical figure.

          • Jesus is more than just a historical figure. Jesus is God and God is Jesus and they both are the Holy Spirit. He loves us. He created us and He gave His life for us then rose from the grave 3 days later just as He said He would. I was a drunk and a drug addict for 20 yrs and because I gave my life to Him I have been clean and sober since 1997. There is nothing He cannot do. He healed me and saved me from my sins just as He has done for literally millions before me and He can do it for this young man, for you and for anyone else that comes to Him and surrenders their life to Him.

          • getstryker

            PTL brother – an inspiring testimony!

          • Yes indeed. Praise The Lord!

          • ppp777

            Its a he not a she , get the basics right .

          • Silas Jennings

            I meant what I typed.

          • TruthvLIes

            I woke up today and thought “I am going to be a show pony today because I want to know what it is like to have four legs.”

          • Silas Jennings

            Having fun making an absurd trans-species comparison?

          • carolyn

            As you full well know, sex and sexuality and gender are not that straight forward, but you clearly “Cannot handle the truth” demonstrated by intersex. You must have a very boring life Lies vs Truth, when you sit here on your computor arguing the same stuff over and over despite it having been demonstrated that it is not that simple.

          • Kevin Carr

            When someone is anorexic or bulimic they are told or guided to get help for what they believe about themselves, with transgenders they are accommodated for what they believe about themselves, why the difference

          • TruthvLIes

            How do you know? If Jesus can save a murderer or a child molester or a wife basher or a homosexual so they they sin no more I am quite sure that he can save a child who is confused about their identity.

          • Silas Jennings

            He doesn’t, and what a ridiculous idea to be “saved” from your natural sexuality.

          • Va_guy

            natural sexuality ,not sex if he/ she /it has a Y chromosome then male. What ever Nova wants to be or live as is fine his rights end where others begin

      • Vince

        Love mandates curing delusions, not playing along with them. It might be amusing for a kid to claim he is Superman, but when he decides he wants to live as Superman 24/7 and be addressed as Superman, then the loving thing to do is bring him back to reality.

        You obviously do not have children, which is a good thing. You would make a horrible parent if you give in to a child’s every fantasy.

        There is no such person as “Nova.” He’s a very mentally disturbed teenage boy, and his disgusting parents are not willing to play their assigned role of being the adults in the room. Odds are he will probably attempt suicide at some point, and he and his adult-less family will blame the “bigots,” taking no responsibility for their own idiocy in encouraging a male to think he is female. Even if he doens’t succeed in suicide, he will be hooked for the rest of us his life on psychology therapy and medications too.

        • Silas Jennings

          The problem is you’re not even EXPLORING the possibility that it’s NOT a delusion. There’s a whole field of science surrounding this issue, and you reject it or ignore it completely.

          Let me tell you what I WOULD NOT do if I were a parent. I wouldn’t treat Jesus like a huge aspirin tablet that is going to “cure” things like this. And if YOU think this is the way to handle it, don’t be surprised when your kid rejects religion completely. You’re using the wrong tool for the job. This isn’t a spiritual matter, it’s a psychological one.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Everything is a spiritual issue.

          • ppp777

            Yes , ” for God gave them over to a reprobate mind “

          • Silas Jennings

            You and I have a VERY different idea of what makes a mind “reprobate”. In Alabama you’re about to knowingly elect a pedophile. What about that? Does he get a free pass because he’s Christian?

          • peanut butter

            And as a psychological problem, it requires counseling, not for the world to have to change to suit him by encouraging him in his mental illness.

          • Silas Jennings

            I didn’t say “psychological problem”, I said “psychological matter”. It sounds like you’re the one with the problem.

          • peanut butter

            But you admit it is psychological; ‘matter’ or ‘problem’, same difference. Apples and apples, six of one half a dozen of the other. A psychological ‘matter’ is resolved with counseling, not appeasement or surgery. You must be confused , too, to be fighting so hard for this poor deranged boy. Yes, I said, “Boy”. I hope you come to Christ and find happiness, true happiness. You can say whatever you want, but if you seek Him you will find Him, then you will know what life is really all about. It is not to consume yourself in your own perspective, but to learn and grow. Any insults you throw at me will be fielded by Him. Outy.

          • Silas Jennings

            You are not a psychologist, and neither am I. I think it is reasonable to allow a psychologist make the decision in these cases whether surgery or counselling is best, don’t you? Religion can do a lot of things, but one thing it can’t do is alter a person’s sexual identity.

          • Leon

            Call yourself a girl, when you are not, and I will call you what you are to your face, and there is nothing you can do about it. Period.

          • TruthvLIes

            “A whole field of science surrounding this issue”

            You are so naive. You can make science say what you want it to say that is why the THEORY of evolution has become fact.

            Oh, by the way, did you know there is whole field of psychology that clearly shows it is all make believe?

          • Silas Jennings

            Did your ultra-right fundamentalist church teach you that? Seriously, did it?

          • carolyn

            On another thread Lies vs Truth (he needs renaming) and myself have had the same discussions. I made him aware of the fact that not everone is born either male or female (INTERSEX) even in physical terms. Lies vs Truth is going to maintian his position whatever you say to him.

          • Silas Jennings

            His name says it all. His faith is “truth”. Everything else is lies.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Don’t talk about science if you don’t know what the word “theory” means in a scientific context. (Hint: We have theories of gravity and relativity, yet no one with any sense disputes that gravity and relativity exist. Actually, gravity is covered by relativity, but that’s kinda beside the point…)

          • carolyn

            References please Lies vs Truth re the branch of psychology showing that it is make believe. Did you do a degree in Psychology as well as your degree in Social Science, your degrees (plural) in Theology, your degree in politics and the teaching qualification you no doubt also have to have been an English teacher?

        • peanut butter

          He got that name, ‘Nova’, from the original ‘Planet of the Apes’, I bet. And he is still living in a fantasy world. Also, as you were speaking of Superman, you would want to intervene to keep them from trying to fly or stop a speeding train.

  • Tricia Phillipi Conley

    Why oh why do people do this.. This was all about a young man , thinking he is a girl in a boys body and wanting the right to change in the girls locker room.. NO NO. He is a boy not a girl. The young ladies at school have just as much rights as that young man and they should NOT have to worry about a boy seeing them undress, it is Wrong. What in the world is going on. OK the boy was offered a different place to change, but NO that didnt make him happy then he was offered a curtain in the girls locker room, to maybe help all of them feel comfortable but again he said NO, so he is not willing to work this out, its his way or no way.. Shame on him. And shame on all of you that took this discussion and turned it around all about religion. Some of you defended OUR LORD GOD while others turned on him. I for one believe in God and his love, but I also know that you do not use the Bible to fight your battles, you do NOT try to force your opinions or beliefs on everyone else.. Wouldnt you rather believe in something and find out its real then NOT believe and find out its real.. Too late then.. Anyway I just gave my opinion didnt I LOL.. God Bless everyone and have a great day/evening..

  • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    That poor lost soul!

  • Fallout from the rights culture created by the 18th-century founding fathers when they replaced Biblical qualifications for Enlightenment rights:

    “[B]ecause they have transgressed my covenant, and trespassed against my law … they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind…”. (Hosea 8:1, 7)

    “A familiar proverb declares, “The road to hell is paved with good intentions.” America’s road to “hell” has been paved with rights, including:

    Natural rights
    Human rights
    Civil rights
    Political rights
    Religious rights (including the right for all non-Christian religions to proliferate)
    Educational rights
    Women’s rights (including the right to murder one’s unborn baby)
    Children’s rights
    Health care rights
    Welfare rights
    Homosexual rights
    Transgender rights

    “And this is the short list… Because the framers failed to expressly establish the Constitution on Biblical ethics, the Ninth Amendment was inevitably interpreted to include the above list, as well as other Biblical infractions.

    “The latest to come from the rights culture created by the framers is the right of young men who claim to be transgender to share locker rooms, bathrooms, and even showers with girls in our public schools….”

    For more, see blog article “America’s Road to Hell: Paved With Rights.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Blog and search on title.

    Then find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the sidebar and receive a complimentary copy of a book that examines the Constitution by the Bible.

  • Drake

    Identity is what you are born with, not what you imagine. Truth is discovered, not invented.

  • Edward Jensen

    The media has taught us bathroom bills are discriminatory. When people see them as lockerroom issues then it is invasion of privacy.

  • Vince

    The article leaves out one very significant bit of information: “Nova” will make a tidy profit from his lawsuit. The petition filed with the circuit court demands these things:

    C. Actual damages, including damages for emotional distress, for the injury and loss suffered by Nova.
    D. Interest on Nova’s actual damages.
    E. An order mandating that District 211 pay Nova’s and her mother’s reasonable attorney’s fees and costs.

    In case you didn’t get the message: This isn’t just coercing people to call you by a different pronoun. This is a quick way to make some $$$$$$, and you won’t even have to pay your lawyer, the party you’re suing will foot the bill.

  • Chet

    Dude, think of yourself a s a millionaire and see how that pans out for you. Military service is precisely what you need, fella…

  • peanut butter

    Gender dysphoria is a mental illness. You can’t change the world for one student that has this illness.

    • ppp777

      There is no such illness , he has been given over to a reprobate mind .

  • TruthvLIes

    I have an answer to the problem. Let her use the girls locker room with all the other boys and the girls can use the male locker room. All the boys have to do is say they identify as a girl when they are changing for sport or P.E.

  • Herb Planter

    what a joke

    • ppp777

      I wish that was true .

  • Sven

    Ask him if he dresses to the left. A real girl would answer “I don’t know what that means.”