U.S. Supreme Court Affirms State’s Right to Issue ‘Choose Life’ License Plates

ncchooselifeWASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court has affirmed North Carolina’s right to issue “Choose Life” license plates, overturning two lower court rulings that declared the plates to be unconstitutional.

As previously reported, in February of last year, a three-judge panel with the 4th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously upheld a federal judge’s ruling that struck down the plates as being “at odds with the First Amendment.” U.S. District Court Judge James Carroll Fox had opined in December 2012 that the plates amounted to viewpoint discrimination because the state did not also issue plates favoring abortion.

The state first began offering “Choose Life” plates in 2011 after legislators approved a measure allowing the pro-life plates to be produced. Each plate is an extra $25, fifteen of which goes to the Carolina Pregnancy Care Fellowship, a non-profit organization that helps to fund pregnancy care centers throughout North Carolina.

“The choose life license plate has already raised over 12 million dollars in the states that allow them, thereby helping mothers and their families,” director Bobbie Meyer told reporters. “Here in North Carolina, there are 85 pregnancy care centers who last year saw over 46,000 women and children.”

According to WGHP-TV in High Point, six separate amendments have been presented to lawmakers in the state legislature in an effort to have produced plates that read either “Trust Women. Respect Choice” or just “Respect Choice.” The legislature struck down all six amendments as they failed to obtain a majority vote.

The ACLU of North Carolina then filed suit on behalf of residents who thought it unfair that the legislature would not also allow the issuance of customized pro-abortion plates.

“This court concludes … that the states’s offering of a Choose Life license plate in the absence of a pro-choice plate constitutes viewpoint discrimination in violation of the First Amendment,” Fox declared.

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“Issuing a ‘Choose Life’ specialty license plate while refusing to issue a pro-choice specialty plate constitutes blatant viewpoint discrimination squarely at odds with the First Amendment,” the Fourth Circuit then ruled months later. “Apparently, North Carolina wishes to celebrate only some interests of some of its citizens—namely, those with which it agrees. This it may not do.”

But on Monday, the U.S. Supreme Court overturned the ruling, ordering the Fourth Circuit to reconsider its decision in light of the high court’s ruling earlier this month in Walker v. Texas Division, Sons of Confederate Veterans. The Supreme Court had ruled in Walker that state-issued license plates amount to government speech, and therefore, the state can reject messages that it does not endorse.

“The First Amendment does not allow groups like the ACLU to suppress a state’s positive message just because the state does not also simultaneously approve a conflicting negative message,” Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) Senior Counsel Steven Aden said in a statement following the ruling. “Citizens of North Carolina have the freedom to promote messages on their vehicles that their legislature has expressly adopted through license plate legislation.”

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  • FoJC_Forever

    Some have been hateful when stating their beliefs about homosexuality being sinful. But, it’s not just these people who are accused of hate, anyone who opposes homosexuality can be accused of being hateful by an Unbelieving world. This film can’t appeal to everyone and be a message from God. Hopefully, however, it will clearly communicate that opposing homosexuality, and subsequently gay “marriage”, isn’t about and has never been about hate.

    You can’t make a deal with the Devil. If you seek the LORD Jesus (the) Christ and are saved by Him from your Sin, then you’re going to be crossways with the world. This is Truth. Whatever the Unbelievers label Christians isn’t actually relevant. The thing that matters is that we seek the Kingdom of God and His Righteousness. The thing that matters is that we follow Jesus.

    The message of the Gospel has remained the same since Jesus preached it in Israel. All are sinners who need God’s mercy and power to be saved from Sin. We cannot be saved by the Works of the Law. We cannot be saved by trying to be a good person. We can only be saved from our Sin and inherit Eternal Life through finished work of the Son of God, the Eternal Word of God – Jesus (the) Christ. This is Truth for everyone, except those who have blasphemed the Holy Spirit.

    At the heart of the homosexual agenda is the Devil pushing it into general acceptance. You cannot appease the Devil with the Truth. He hates the Truth and is doing everything he can to frustrate the Will and Word of God in the earth. He has and will continue to fail, of course, but a fool continues to do foolishness even when the foolishness has been exposed.

  • Dave L

    The Homosexual community unwittingly gives people an excuse for their hatred when they call people “Homophobic”. People usually do not condemn someone as severely when they act out of fear. Or steal because of hunger. Christians who hate Gays need to repent right along with those who approve of Homosexuality.

    • Tara

      I agree. We are commanded to love, not hate. We all sin and we sin differently; which is between us and the Lord and for Him to judge.

    • DNelson

      So the actions of other some people excuse the actions of others? Who, exactly, is “excusing” the hatred of people who are called “homophobic”? You believe that being called a name provides a reasonable excuse for hating someone?

      • Dave L

        A motive of fear becomes justification for an action. Hatred does not. When Homosexuals call people “Homophobes”, they are shooting their own foot, because fear makes wrong doing more acceptable. (example) A little kid is afraid of spiders so he steps on one. He is seen as producing a normal reaction. Another person just likes to kill bugs for fun, he is not afraid of them, he just hates them and enjoys killing them. He is seen as sick.

        • DNelson

          How does being called a name create fear?

          “A little kid is afraid of spiders so he steps on one. He is seen as producing a normal reaction.”

          Yes, but telling a child that he/she is afraid of spiders, even if the child is not, does not produce a normal reaction of the child stepping on a spider, as the child is not a afraid of spiders. It would produce the natural reaction of: “No, I’m not”.

          You are suggesting that mere act of calling someone a name provides justification for that person to act in a hateful manner.

          Not so much on the “turning the other cheek” part of scripture, are you?

          • Dave L

            It doesn’t. If you say someone acted because of fear of Homosexuals, you give them partial justification. Fear is a motive not as evil as pure hatred. The Christians however come to your rescue and unmask hatred in those who harm gays.

    • SFBruce

      And yet, public support for LGBT equality continues to grow. I hope you’ve noticed that religious conservatives have a few choice names for LGBT people, as well.

      • Dave L

        I don’t follow “Religious Conservative” venues so I’m not familiar with any derogatory names they might use.

        • SFBruce

          Gay epithets flow rather freely right here at times.

    • Reason2012

      Being against homosexual behavior, or having such behavior legally forced upon society does not equate to “hating gays”. But of course they’ll try to claim it’s hate and that Christians hate homosexuals – but of course that’s just a thinly veiled attempt to silence the opposition.

      • What precisely is ‘homosexual behavior?’
        I am a Christian. I support marriage as a constitutional right.

        • Oh yuck. You want us all to talk about your favourite perversion. No thanks.

          • No I want you to tell what it is you think homosexuals do that heterosexuals do not do.

          • For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. You want to speak of this shame.

          • Sexuality and a discussion of sexuality is shameful?
            The Asexual must not make rules for the normally sexed.

        • Reason2012

          Male on male_sex acts.

          Do you support sin as a Christian?

          Where does God say He condones homosexual_sex and condones homosexual marriage?

          Jesus pointed out that marriage is between one man and one woman:

          Matthew 19:4-6 “And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

          Jesus even points out that for the cause of making them male and female, this is why male will leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife.

          Mark 10:5-7 “And Jesus answered and said unto them, For the hardness of your heart he wrote you this precept. (6) But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female. (7) For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and cleave to his wife;”

          Jesus said God made them male and female – not male and male – not female and female.

          Jesus said man shall leave father and mother, not father and father, not mother and mother.

          Jesus said man shall cleave to his wife, not to his husband, not to her wife.

          Not to mention Jesus is God, so the entire Word of God is the Words of Christ. As Jesus is The Word.

          John 1:1-3 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (2) The same was in the beginning with God. (3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.”

          John 1:14 “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.”

          The Lord rebukes us for our attempts to destroy what He defined as one man and one woman.

          There’s no such thing as homosexuals – only people who currently enjoy homosexuality. And adults continue to permanently turn away from homosexuality, even after decades of believing the lie they were “born that way”, proving it’s not genetic, but the product of indoctrination, confusion, mental instability and/or abuse.

          And this is what God says about sin and specifically homosexuality:

          Romans 1:26-27 ”For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (27) And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their_lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.”

          1 Corinthians 6:9-10 ”Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate [men who willingly take on the part of a “woman” with another man], nor abusers of themselves with mankind [sodomites], (10) Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”

          1 Timothy 1:9-10 ”Knowing this, that the law is not made for a righteous man, but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and for sinners, for unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, (10) For_whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind [s odomites], for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine;”

          Jude 1:7 ”Even as_Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

          Luke 17:29 ”[Jesus said] But the same day that Lot went out of_Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.”

          Matthew 19:4-6 ”And he [Jesus] answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, (5) And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? (6) Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.”

          Jesus made it quite clear God made us male and female so that a man will leave his father and mother (not two fathers, not three mothers and so on) and cleave onto his wife (not his husband and so on).

          The Word of God rebukes us all – even if we all try to say we don’t believe the Bible, the very Word of God will be our judge when we face Him. And God is a righteous judge and will judge us all – not turn a blind eye to our sin. Do not be deceived by the world: it’s God we will have to convince that His word was a lie, not men. What happened in Noah’s day when the entire world rejected God? Did God spare them because there were so many? No – they all perished except for Noah and his family!

          Proverbs 9:10 ”The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom: and the knowledge of the holy is understanding.”

          God spared not His chosen people – we are kidding ourselves if we think He will spare the United States of America if we choose to blatantly turn away from Him.

          Jeremiah 12:17 ”But if they will not obey, I will utterly pluck up and destroy that nation, saith the LORD.”

          Genesis 19:7-9 “And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. (8) Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof. (9) And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door.”

          Luke 17:28-30 “So also as it was in the days of Lot: they ate, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they built; (29) but the day Lot went out of Sodom, it rained fire and brimstone from the heaven and destroyed them all. (30) Even so it shall be in the day when the Son of Man is revealed.”

          Romans 1:18-32 “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold [suppress] the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.

          For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

          Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

          For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

          And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

          The entire Bible points out men having_sex with men is an abomination. Likewise woman having_sex with women. It’s not just Paul that pointed it out.

          Genesis 19:4-13 “But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them [men wanting to have_sex with men].

          And Lot went out at the door unto them, and shut the door after him, And said, I pray you, brethren, do not so wickedly. Behold now, I have two daughters which have not known man; let me, I pray you, bring them out unto you, and do ye to them as is good in your eyes: only unto these men do nothing [he offers his daughters to be raped to keep them from having_sex with another man – shows rape is not the issue but male on male_sex]; for therefore came they under the shadow of my roof.

          And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them. And they pressed sore upon the man, even Lot, and came near to break the door. But the men put forth their hand, and pulled Lot into the house to them, and shut to the door. And they smote the men that were at the door of the house with blindness, both small and great: so that they wearied themselves to find the door.

          And the men said unto Lot, Hast thou here any besides? son in law, and thy sons, and thy daughters, and whatsoever thou hast in the city, bring them out of this place: For we will destroy this place, because the cry of them is waxen great before the face of the LORD; and the LORD hath sent us to destroy it.”

          Leviticus 18:22 “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”

          Leviticus 20:13 “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”

          Even cross-dressing is an abomination:

          Deuteronomy 22:5 “The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman’s garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.”

          Deuteronomy 23:17 “There shall be no_whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.”

          1 Kings 22:46 “And the remnant of the sodomites, which remained in the days of his father Asa, he took out of the land.”

          1 Kings 15:11-12 “And Asa did that which was right in the eyes of the LORD, as did David his father. And he took away the sodomites out of the land, and removed all the idols that his fathers had made.”

          2 Kings 23:7 “And he brake down the houses of the sodomites, that were by the house of the LORD, where the women wove hangings for the grove.”

          Ezekiel 16:49-50 “Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy. And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.”

          And the “pride” parades about homosexuality are more of the same.

          Matthew 19:4-5 “And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?”

          Not father and father. Not mother and mother. Not his husband. And only two people off opposite gender can become “one flesh” by_intercourse.

          We need to think again about calling ourselves Christians and promoting sin as being ok in God’s eyes!

          • You are kool with lesbians?
            How about bisexuals? Or heterosexuals who are experimenting?

          • Brudder

            Nobody knows what Jesus may have said or not said because nobody contemporary with him ever wrote anything down as far as we know. What you are ‘quoting’ is from an unknown author at least a generation later (hint, not a quote).

          • pastoredsmith

            You made the false accusation. Let’s see you prove it. Just as I thought. No proof. The Bible has lots of proof….mainly the hundreds of people who saw Jesus alive after His resurrection, the thousands He preached to during his 3-year ministry. And, Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were all first-hand witnesses, along with all the other disciples except the traitor Judas. Your musings are not even amusing. They are completely without merit.

          • Brudder

            Do you seriously believe that the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John were written by the men named as the disciples of Jesus? Because no serious Christian Historian does; as well there is no first hand accounts written by the hundreds or thousands of witnesses you mention. There are only claims that they were there at all, claims written at best a generation later. The idea that a significant percentage of the disciples would be able to read and write is ludicrous.

          • pastoredsmith

            What I believe has nothing to do with it. The fact that the Bible is authentic is a proven fact. Any historian who claims the Bible wasn’t actually written by the men who authored those words is a heretic. But, you know that. You want to think that what you “believe” or, more accurately, have concocted in your little mind is better and supersedes God. Try again. You failed that time.

          • Brudder

            I failed because you say so? If you are claiming that the gospels were written by the men they are named for why don’t you provide some evidence instead of trying to insult me?

          • pastoredsmith

            No, you fail because of your lame challenge. It is blatantly obvious that all you want to do is stir up garbage by telling lies and making absurd challenges to the Bible. You made the wrong assumptions about the Gospels….you insulted the Bible, the book that is believed and beloved by a majority of Americans; the burden of proof is on your shoulders to dig your own grave trying to prove nonsense. I’m not interested in arguing with someone who trashes the Bible. If you are so smart, dig it out for yourself.

          • Brudder

            Where is the ‘insult’ to the Bible? By saying that the authorship of the gospels is unknown? A lot of people believe a lot of different things when it comes to Christianity and the Bible, maybe you should calm down and try to be civil. Nothing I am saying is especially controversial if you read something about the history of world religions. I have no burden of proof as I am making no positive claim, you are. You take the very common position of claiming you have evidence when you do not, as well you are making a claim that is not required. You don’t have to have evidence to support your religious faith, that’s why it’s called faith; just don’t insist that something is factual when it’s an unsupported belief.

          • pastoredsmith

            You sound like an atheist named Paul who trolls this site and has about 100 different logins and that many “personalities.” You use the same atheist talking points and make the same jabs as he does. Good day, Paul, or whoever you are. You are not going to provoke a fight, no matter how you try. I don’t need to refute your idiocy….it will do that for itself. Take your garbage elsewhere. Goodbye.

          • Brudder

            That’s not the high road you just took. If you try to claim you are using reason, back it up; that’s how it works.

          • pastoredsmith

            I refer to fact, Paul. You atheists use “human reasoning” that is undependable. Might I suggest you use something besides atheist talking points? Attacking the messenger is really getting old.

          • Brudder

            I guess asking you to provide a fact or evidence is my ‘Atheist talking point’? You have yet to provide any reason to substantiate that Matthew the disciple wrote Matthew; which is your claim. If you want to make an evidence based claim you have to provide evidence. You are just making personal statements based on faith. Also you are the one making personal attacks, project much?

          • pastoredsmith

            And you have evidence that ANY atheist talking point is accurate? All you have is accusations and innuendo. You make it up as you go along, Paul. Atheists never quit and you are especially tenacious. But as usual, ignorant of the truth. You really need a hobby. Or do you get paid to do this? I didn’t start this. You did. You made personal attacks. I only defend myself. And, I refuse to argue with a fool (Psalms 14:1) who doesn’t believe in God.

          • Brudder

            I have made no personal attacks; you are a liar. The evidence is right here in text .

          • pastoredsmith

            That’s your problem, Paul. You lie about most everything and swear you are telling the truth.
            This is pointless, as usual. Good day to you.

          • Brudder

            Have you managed to convince yourself you are superior enough yet? I really hope you are not an actual pastor.

          • pastoredsmith

            “I have made no personal attacks; you are a liar. Have you managed to convince yourself you are superior enough yet? I really hope you are not an actual pastor.”
            And, you don’t hurl insults? All you are doing Paul is hurling insults. Challenges to fake debates. Attempts to demonstrate what you think is your “superior” grasp of the world that is actually a farce.
            Here we go again, Paul.
            Goodbye atheist. As I said, I don’t argue with fools (Psalms 14:1).

          • Brudder

            Do you think you are being honest? When I posted the message that I had made no personal attacks, I hadn’t. Anyone can scroll back and read this comment series for themselves to see the truth of that. When you insisted on calling me a liar and making personal attacks, repeatedly; I responded in kind. When someone treats you the same way you are treating them you should not be surprised. I tried more than once to have a civil conversation with you and you simply called me names and avoided any discourse. Well done. If you can show I made a personal attack anywhere in this comment thread prior to my previous comment I will admit I was wrong.

          • pastoredsmith

            I think I don’t want to argue with a fool, Paul. You don’t want a “civil conversation,” you want to slander me and the God I serve. Not interested.
            We have had this goodbye conversation before. Goodbye. From this point, you can prove my point by blabbing on and on….alone.

          • Reason2012

            Genesis 3:1 “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said….?”

            Ages old attack on God’s Word…. “Did God really say that..”

            John 14:25-26 “These things have I spoken unto you, being yet present with you. 26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”

            It’s God we’ll have to convince He’s too weak to preserve His Word.

          • Brudder

            Yes, quoting the supposed words of Jesus that I just said aren’t really his has finally convinced me I am all wrong. Thank you.

          • Reason2012

            Never said it would convince you – just showing the Words that will either get you to think and humble yourself or be your judge when you face God if you persist on that illogical line of thought.

          • Faith Apostolic

            The Holy Bible (I prefer KJV because it is proven) is GOD’S Word to man – inspired by the Holy Spirit. All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work… There are both internal and external evidences that the Bible is truly God’s Word. Because the Bible details historical events, its truthfulness and accuracy are subject to verification like any other historical document. Through both archaeological evidences and other writings, the historical accounts of the Bible have been proven time and time again to be accurate and true. In fact, all the archaeological and manuscript evidence supporting the Bible makes it the best-documented book from the ancient world. The fact that the Bible accurately and truthfully records historically verifiable events is a great indication of its truthfulness when dealing with religious subjects and doctrines and helps substantiate its claim to be the very Word of God.

          • Brudder

            Yeah, no. You can’t just say so and expect to be taken seriously. The Egyptian exodus never happened but I bet you are going on claim it did without any evidence from outside the Bible.

          • The Lone Ranger

            Why would I need document of some sort when I have the indwelling of the Father, Son, Holy Ghost, in me, other than to prove it to you? All you have to do is have faith
            and believe for yourself and you’ll have proof enough.
            John 7:17
            If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
            1 John 3:24
            And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
            ..Do you think someone can make this up..in him..him in you..this is true the spirit can’t be in you and you not know it your a witness to truth, be for real man wake
            up, if you have a toothache I bet you’ll know that, if you have a heartache in you I bet you know that, if Christ dwells in you I bet you know that.
            If he is not in you it is because your not born again..
            1 Timothy 6:16-17
            16 Who only hath immortality, dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: to whom be honour and power everlasting. Amen.
            17 Charge them that are rich in this world, that they be not highminded, nor trust in uncertain riches, but in the living God, who giveth us richly all things to enjoy.
            ..No man has seen God with the Naked eye we see him through the Spirit our body would be vaporized in his physical presence, too powerful, thats why we will get a new one

            That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the Holy Ghost which dwelleth in us.

          • Brudder

            “Do you think someone can make this up”

            I can only cite the example of thousands of other religions that I’m guessing you will claim are false, so made up? Some of these religions also predate yours and talk about god as son of himself and dying and rising again and virgin births and all kinds of made up stuff.

    • Faith Apostolic

      The problem, Dave, is that some people mistake “hate” for not agreeing with their lifestyle. They call it homophobic when you say it is a sin. The Bible says it is a sin, and so I agree with the Bible.

  • Reason2012

    ““I didn’t want to do this movie,” he said. “When different people kept asking for one that addressed the subject of homosexuality, I said an adamant ‘No!’ and I was deadly serious. It just wasn’t going to happen. One of the major reasons for this was that to speak even slightly against homosexuality nowadays is tantamount to being a hate-filled racist.””

    And this is precisely how PC works: it’s really hateful censorship of any viewpoints except the ones promoted by those who are using PC to silence all other views. Call people haters and homophobic and it works like a charm.

    But it won’t work against God and against those who have a healthy reverential respect for God rather than man who hates God.

    • StereoMan

      No one hates God.

  • mark

    I love that he’s charging $20 to watch his low budget movie online lol talk about greed

    • bowie1

      Okay…just don’t pay. Some special sporting events can cost quite a bit too.

      • mark

        ?? We’re talking about movies so lets stick to that. Watching this movie on your computer will cost double of what it costs to go to a movie theater. Ray Comfort is about money.

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          His movies are twice as good as what’s at the theater. Did you get a chance to see “evolution vs. God,” where he got an evolutionary biologist prof at UCLA I think to say that “humans ARE fish,” or something like that?

        • bowie1

          It costs money to produce a movie especially if he uses broadcast quality equipment. In the past Ray charged only to cover the cost and gave them away free once that expense has been covered as a download. Since fewer people may watch it, it means the cost per unit can be higher like a book will smaller print runs.

  • sb1127 .

    Since Ray Comfort is a class A dumbass, I know this “movie” is going to be hilarious. I can’t wait. Bring it on.

    • bowie1

      Will you pay $20 as someone above says it costs? (I haven’t checked so I don’t know if that is correct.)

  • Jim H

    “The movie focuses on homosexuality—a topic that Comfort admits is the most culturally-divisive issue of the day.”

    When I look at actual data the whole cultural divide thing it is hard to not see it as largely manufactured and the result a very vocal minority who have a very specific and conservative ideology, that is not shared by the majority of the country.

    Pew conducted a survey in May of 2015 it showed that 72% of mainline Protestants said Homosexuality should be accepted by society, as did 64% of Catholics, and 88% of the religiously unaffiliated. In total support was at 63% of society.

    Only White evangelicals showed strong resistance with 61% opposed to acceptance, but even with them, 33% supported acceptance. If you look at it from a political perspective, only the conservative wing of the Republican party shows strong resistance at 63%.

    As of 2014, Pew found 25.4% of Americans were evangelical, 22.8 were unaffiliated, 20.8 were Catholic.14.7 Mainline Protestant.

    • Frank

      lol. It is not accepted in so called black Christian churches, which is why Obama lied for so many years about his beliefs. Your racism is showing.

      • Jim H

        I couldn’t find any current data concerning support within “so-called black Christian churches”. Do you have actual data to support your assertion? However, they make up only 6.5% of the population, so I wasn’t overly concerned with missing that demographic.
        How does that make me racist?

    • Josey

      What does statistics have to do with anything? We as Children of God don’t follow statistics or the crowd, we follow God’s word which is never changing, His word is the only sure thing. Jesus is the same yesterday, today and forever! He’s coming back for His bride who kept herself unspotted and pure from the world in Him.
      And God’s commandment in 2 Corinthians 6:16,17 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. vs17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you.

      • Jim H

        You missed the point. Statistics do matter when you are discussing culture, as in culturally divided. I was saying the level of division in this country is exaggerated by a minority who presume to speak for all Christians, when if fact, it can be clearly shown they don’t .

        You say: “we follow God’s word which is never changing”, but obviously you read it quite differently than the majority of Christians who hold opinions quite different from you.
        I’m not sure how preaching scripture at me was relevant to that discussion.

        • Josey

          My point was it doesn’t matter how many who claim to be Christian accept homosexuality, if that is main stream protestants they according to God’s word are in error and as a Christian we are to follow Christ not the majority so I don’t give a hoot as to statistics. And I wasn’t preaching to you in particular but just making a point about not following statistics which imo are over exaggerated anyway.

          • Jim H

            It may not matter to you, because you “don’t give a hoot as to statistics”, which I can’t say is a big surprise. It might matter to the majority of folks out there who consider themselves Christian, as well as anyone concerned with the truth.
            If you consider yourself separate from those other Christians, you need to find some way to distinguish yourself from them, so you are not representing your specific view as those of all Christian. Whether you refer to yourself as evangelical, conservative, right wing, literalist, fundamentalist, or whatever else, is up to you.
            I would assume evangelical would be the most accurate and inclusive term, as well as being one most such Christians would accept. However, even though the majority of those who consider themselves evangelicals do not support acceptance of homosexuality, that position is not monolithic even among them. Approximately one third of evangelicals disagree and support acceptance.
            So, stating that Christians oppose homosexuality is an obvious exaggeration.

  • I should make a movie about the poison of religion and stuff like that

    • bowie1

      There is plenty of that junk on YouTube.

  • sb1127 .

    I can’t wait to see this movie. It’s going to a glorious train wreck that will once again prove that Ray Comfort is an ignoramous.

  • The Lone Ranger

    Uncompromising is reason enough to upset the homosexuals. I guess we’ll just have to see the movie before we can comment . Christians should not try to offend anyone, the Word of God is uncompromising if it offends us , we need to be offended until we can’t be offended anymore.