IRVINE, Calif. — The Center for Medical Progress has now released at least one of the videos that the Planned Parenthood business partner StemExpress sought to block in court after a California appeals court denied the fetal tissue company a preliminary injunction against the release of the undercover footage with its CEO.
The video, released on Tuesday, features CEO Cate Dyer, who discussing a potential business partnership with what she believes is a human biologics company. She speaks with them over dinner about her current arrangements with abortion facilities, noting that StemExpress works with high volume suppliers.
“As you see Megan out there in clinics, we’re working with almost triple digit number clinics, so it’s a lot on volume and we still need more than what we do,” she says. “So, it’s a lot. So, I don’t think you’re going to hit a capacity with us anytime in the next ten years.”
Dyer notes that she would like to obtain “another 50 livers a week” when asked what would make her happy.
She also discusses how some researchers express shock and unease when they open a package and find recognizable baby body parts inside.
“As you probably know, one of the issues with neural tissue, it’s so fragile. It’s insanely fragile,” she says. “I know we get requests for neural, it’s the hardest thing in the world to ship.”
“You do it as the whole calvarium (head),” the undercover investigator filming the encounter states.
“Yeah, that’s the easiest way. And we’ve actually had good success with that,” Dyer replies.
“Make sure the eyes are closed!” the investigator quips.
“Yeah!” Dyer responds, laughing. “Tell the lab it’s coming, so they don’t open the box and go, ‘Oh G*d!’”
When the undercover investigator asks why come lab techs respond in such manner, Dyer explains that they would rather not realize the reality of the situation in seeing the body parts as a whole.
“It’s almost like they don’t want to know where it comes from,” she outlines. “Where they’re like, ‘We need limbs, but no hands and feet need to be attached.’ … Or they want long bones, and they want you to take it all off, like, make it so that we don’t know what it is.”
“And this just goes to their whole stigma,” the investigators state.
“Oh yeah,” Dyer agrees. “And their lab techs freak out and have meltdowns so its just kind of like, yeah.”
The StemExpress CEO then explains that she believes it is the reason why some researches prefer to deal with adult pathology “because they sort of want to get away from having to publish a picture—a paper—that says they derived this from fetal tissue.”
When the undercover investigators mention that they would like to seek to make the arrangement financially profitable for all sides of the agreement, Dyer asks if they have seen abortion facilities that don’t profit from the arrangement and notes that she has not seen any such situations.
“You feel like there are clinics out there that have been burned, that feel like they’re doing all this work for research and it hasn’t been profitable for them?” she asks. “I haven’t seen that…”
Dyer has now also released a statement regarding the footage, asserting that reports that the babies are delivered to the company as a whole are inaccurate, but rather it is the fetal organs that may arrive in one piece.
“My use of the term ‘intact cases’ is a medical term of art that refers solely to ‘intact livers,’ as there was absolutely no mention of ‘intact fetuses’ at any point,” she said in a company release. “Consistent with the company’s prior public statements, StemExpress has never requested, received or provided to a researcher an ‘intact fetus.’”
“The suction destroys everything and it gets to the point where I mean you could look at 60 cases and get nothing,” Dyer added. “It’s just red water by the time it gets to us.”
She did not deny or contest any other parts of the footage.
While some have contended that the videos are misleading because they are edited, the Center for Medical Progress has released a number of the hours-long undercover videos in their entirety on YouTube.