Homeschooling Family Sues New Jersey CPS for $60 Million for Unconstitutional ‘Home Intrusion’

Zimmer-compressedBELVIDIRE, N. J. — A homeschooling family in New Jersey has filed a $60 million dollar lawsuit against the New Jersey Division of Child Protection and Permanency for intruding into their home and asking them personal and detailed questions about their lives and their son’s education.

According to reports, the incident occurred this past January as social worker Michelle Marchese arrived at the home of Chris and Nicole Zimmer and sought entry following an anonymous complaint over “improper homeschooling.” At first, Mr. Zimmer refused entry and called the police, but when they were given an ultimatum and told by police that the social worker had a right to investigate, he left Marchese in out of fear that the government would take his son.

“I wouldn’t let her in the house, but then she told me I had ten minutes or else,” he told

For the next two hours, Marchese questioned their 15-year-old son Chris on everything from whether the Zimmers fought or did drugs or beat him. Marchese asked the parents for their son’s homeschooling test scores and curriculum, as well as his medical records, and inquired about the guns in the household, seeking to inspect them and see how easy it would be to break into the locked cabinet.

“She took it upon herself to try to pry open the door with her fingers, but it was locked … Then she said, ‘You need to show me the guns; open the safe,'” Mr. Zimmer outlined to “I knew what my rights were, but I was trying to cooperate with her.”

“If they had come with a complaint of neglect and abuse, come in and ask us, but to question us about home schooling [is concerning],” Mrs. Zimmer told reporters. “For us it was a good choice, and I will always advocate for home schooling.”

The social worker then left and the Zimmers never saw her again, but received a letter in the mail asserting that the couple was not cooperative and so the case closed.

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“We were unable to complete our assessment as it pertains to a referral made to our agency on 1/07/15, as you were unwilling to cooperate with the CWS referral process,” the letter read. “Therefore, DCP&P will not be providing services to your child and your family at this time. … Thank you for your cooperation during our recent contacts.”

The couple, however, said that they didn’t need the state’s “services,” and as they remained distraught about the matter, they filed a lawsuit against the department and Marchese.

“We want to change it so that they just can’t come pounding on your door and saying, ‘If you don’t let me in, you know who we are; we’re going to take your kid away,’” Mr. Zimmer told the Washington Post. “They need to start telling people what their rights are. If they want to act like cops, they can abide by the law like the police.”

The state replied to the suit asserting that the department “was simply fulfilling its duty by following up” on a complaint and that “a parent’s right to familial integrity ‘does not include a right to remain free from child abuse investigations.’”

The Zimmers countered the argument through their attorney, contending that “there is a constitutional fundamental right to be free from child abuse investigations where there is ‘no reasonable and articulable evidence giving rise to a reasonable suspicion that a child has been abused or is in imminent danger of abuse.’”

The couple states that if they win the lawsuit, they will donate the funds in order to help other families who are being wrongfully harassed by the government.

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  • sammy13

    Freedom being lost every day. But there is only one side to this story being presented.

  • Phipps Mike

    sounds like a revenge plan from somebody they know.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Excellent perception, Phipps Mike!

      This is not terribly unusual with homeschool families. It is often a disgruntled neighbor or disapproving family member who calls social services on homeschoolers, although it can be just someone who sees them out in public at the “wrong” hours. But, in this case, it would seem that it was someone with inside knowledge, a neighbor or family member. Thus, your point seems spot on.

      Don’t know if the family has HSLDA membership or not, but if not, they should have it. The “inquisition” never would have gone that far, probably, but it is also unlikely that a suit for that amount would have been encouraged. Of course, I do not know all of the details of this case, so mine is nothing more than the speculation of a former homeschool dad.

      • Phipps Mike

        I am currently a home school “learning coach” for my son. Fortunately because he is the main pastors Grandson, he is VERY popular at Church and has TONS of socialization. As well as all of the cultural things he gets to attend all over the place.

        • afchief

          We’ve home schooled our first daughter and now our second. My son is in a Christian school. To us it is the only way to go. These indoctrination centers we call public schools are anti-christian and teaching our kids socialism.

          I recommend every Christian pull their kids out of public schools and either home school or put them in a Christian school.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            I agree 100%. We are so far past the point where we can trust our children to the government schools. The train left the station long ago, except possibly for the rare small rural school in the South where the teachers are not afraid to live their Christian faith.

          • afchief

            If Christians would do some research and know what Common Core was all about they would pull their kids out immediately. People are so conditioned when it comes to government run schools. I have told many other parents to get your children out of those cesspools, but all I get is: we can’t afford it (bs) or they have to learn to deal with trashy people sooner or later (smh). People truly are largely sheep.

            Public education is child abuse.

          • acontraryview

            What research results regarding Common Core would result in Christians immediately pulling their kids from public schools?

          • afchief

            Common Core ties to Libya, Qatar, Saudi Arabia

            “Where did Common Core come from?” is a question I often hear from parents as I travel the country speaking about the Islamic infiltration of America.

            Because in 2014-15 America, public school students via Common Core are:

            • Participating in public school-sponsored trips to mosques via taxpayer expense, girls must wear head scarves (Colorado parents complain)

            • Debating whether or not the Holocaust was “merely a political scheme created to influence public emotion and gain,” (an eighth-grade assignment defended by the Rialto Unified School District, Los Angeles)

            • Pledging allegiance in Arabic (New York)

            • Observing two “Muslim holy days,” (New York City)

            • Being taught Islamic vocabulary lessons (North Carolina)

            • Being taught Islamic culture (Tennessee)

            • Being taught world history from Islamic perspective (Florida) that includes learning about the five pillars of Islam (Maryland father, a Marine Corps veteran, complains and is banned from school grounds)

            • Told to proselytize by creating a pamphlet about Islam to “introduce Islam to 3rd graders” that introduces Allah to children as the same God of the Christians and Jews (Michigan)

            • Reciting in class the Shahada, “There is No God but Allah,” and the Muslim call to prayer (Massachusetts)

            Parents in every state are outraged, protesting and asking, “Why is Islam being taught in public schools?” and “How did this happen?” “Where is the ACLU?” “Where are the people ‘protesting against’ religion being taught in public schools?”

            Common Core origins

            The short answer is that President Obama’s push for “hope and change” translates into completely transforming America — for the worse. Common Core is but one of many parts of an intricate plan to infiltrate every area of American society with Islam. Which is why, Common Core’s origin and funding came from Qatar, Libya and Saudi Arabia.

            Globally, Common Core originated from the “One World Education” concept, a global goal orchestrated by the Connect All Schools program. Its origin is funded by the Qatar Foundation International (QFI). The director of QFI’s Research Center for Islamic Legislation and Ethics is Tariq Ramadan, grandson of Muslim Brotherhood founder, Hassan al-Bann

            According to the WND website, in 2011, QFI “partnered with the Department of State and the U.S. Department of Education to facilitate matchmaking between classrooms in the U.S. and international schools through … the ‘Connect All Schools’ project.” QFI states on its website that the initiative was founded in response to Mr. Obama’s infamous 2009 Cairo speech, during which the Muslim Brotherhood was seated in the front row.

            Mr. Obama’s mentor, domestic terrorist Bill Ayers, received $49.2 million from Vartan Gregorian, a board member of the Qatar Foundation, who also is involved with Mr. Obama’s White House Fellowships Commission. Gregorian is an integral part of Connect All Schools, through which Qatar invested $5 million to teach Arabic in American public schools.

            Domestically, in America, Common Core was “created by” the National Governor’s Association (NGA), Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO), Achieve Inc., ACT and the College Board. The Common Core State Standards are copyrighted by the NGA and CCSSO, a private company, which means they cannot be changed.

            Many groups helped create these standards (chief among them, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the United Nations) but Pearson Education, an NGA donor and CCSSO’s listed business and industry partner, is integral to Common Core.

            Pearson Education designs “education products and services to institutions, governments and direct to individual learners.” Listed on the London and New York Stock Exchange, of its numerous investors, the Libyan Investment Authority is its largest financial contributor, holding 26 million shares.

            According to the Financial Times, the Libyan Investment Authority was founded by Muammar Gaddafi’s son, Seif al-Islam; more than five Gaddafi family members own shares. The Council on Islamic Relations (CAIR, a recently designated terrorist organization by the United Arab Emirates), Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and the Muslim Brotherhood invested in Pearson Education through the Libyan Investment Authority.

            Despite this connection, according to the Guardian, Pearson Education claims as a public company operating in a free market it has no control over its shareholders’ terrorist-related activities.

            Common Core was implemented in states that accepted federal funds from the 2009 “Race to the Top” initiative, which encouraged states to receive federal money to adopt new standards that would improve their public school children’s test performance results.

            In order for a state to participate, the state board of education and the state’s educational professional standards board would have voted to adopt Common Core standards. Each participating state has posted the Common Core Standards on its state department of education website.

            Two years prior to the Obama administration’s Race to the Top initiative, in 2007, the FBI uncovered documents revealing the goals of the Muslim Brotherhood, and its subsidiary organizations like CAIR, planned to indoctrinate American K-12 students by teaching Islam.

            The seized documents were part of the 2007 Holy Land Foundation trial, the largest terror-funding trial in U.S. history. The FBI uncovered the Muslim Brotherhood’s manifesto “on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America” (Exhibit 42945 and Exhibit 42946).

            After states applied for “Race to the Top” federal funds in 2009, Pearson Education created Common Core curriculum and standards. Pearson Education is also the sole evaluator of teachers in some states. In order for New York State to continue receiving “Race to the Top” federal funds, it had to implement “reforms.” Pearson Education now solely administers the Teacher Performance Assessment (TPA).

            New York State no longer evaluates its teachers — a private company does — whose primary investors fund terrorism and propagate Islam.

            Additionally, no state or federal oversight exists for university programs (under Title VI of the Higher Education Act) that train K-12 teachers to develop lesson plans and seminars on “Middle East Studies.” These programs and teacher training materials were developed by Pearson Education and largely funded by Saudi Arabia.

            Parents must and can act

            In order to end Common Core and eliminate the Islamic indoctrination being taught in public schools, parents must demand:

            • Their state school board members be investigated and/or fired and replaced.

            • Their state legislature and governor reject “Race to the top” federal funds and implement legislation or reverse its state education department’s implementation of Common Core in their state, and at a minimum, in the interim.

            • Their child not participate in state testing.

            Parents can also take their children out of public schools altogether.

            Parental rights are guaranteed by the 14th Amendment. The U.S. Supreme Court has held that parents possess the “fundamental right” to “direct the upbringing and education of their children.” The court has declared that “the child is not the mere creature of the State: those who nurture him and direct his destiny have the right coupled with the high duty to recognize and prepare him for additional obligations” (Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U.S. 510, 534-35). The Supreme Court criticized the Nebraska state legislature for attempting to interfere “with the power of parents to control the education of their own” (Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 390, 402). And ruled a parent’s right to raise his/her children means a parent is protected from unreasonable state interferences, one of the unwritten “liberties” protected by the Due Process Clause of the 14th Amendment (Meyer v. Nebraska, 262 U.S. 399).”

            Parents must say no more: The $632 billion the federal government spends each year on public school “education” is being wasted on violating the First Amendment, by the federal government instituting a religion through the teaching of Islam in public schools.

          • Mark Belk

            I agree Common Core is a rotten to the core curiculum. But like the old saying, Even a blind hog finds an acorn once in a while”, the debate on the so called “Holocaust” is something that needs to take place before it becomes illegal to do so like in other countries. There has been too many lies concerning the “Holocaust” that have been exposed already not to continue the conversation.

          • afchief

            Forced government schooling was never a good idea. It was conceived and controlled by the collectivists from its inception. Look, Public schools are teaching children that sex is good at the Kindergartner level and how to use contraceptives. California is teaching kids that Homosexuality is normal and soon coming to a Public school near you! All of this should be taught by the parent, NOT the schools. Also, why should the taxpayer pay for the schooling of people who never would give a penny voluntarily?


          • Janet Faber

            Ridiculous. When I was a girl, My nanny was a holocaust survivor. She had the tattooed number on her arm and she used to send us out of the room and tell my oldest sister stories from her days in Auschwitz. Your pathetic attempt to change history into something more to your own liking is beyond moronic, it’s shameful.

          • Mark Belk

            Just do some extensive research and you will find it isn’t what the world has been told it was. Until you really look into it with an open mind don’t criticize someone who has studied it for decades.

          • Mark Belk

            True Christians who aren’t ignorant of what really goes on in public schools and who can afford to have already started homeschooling. Many, including some of those who profess to be Christians, use public school as a baby sitter because they would, “Go crazy if I had to have the kids home all day!”

          • afchief

            I was a youth pastor for 20 years. I saw first hand what public schools did to teenagers. I would say about 3% of teenagers did not bow to peer pressure. Two of my kids were home schooled and my other is in Christian school. They are “head and shoulders” above their public schools peers. We even had HS kids who could not read correctly.

        • WorldGoneCrazy

          Yes, that is exactly what we found out too – good point. Our problem was never getting them enough socialization, it was keeping them from meeting up and gabbing way too much! They would get their school work done by noon a lot of days, and it was off to the races!

          Sounds like you are doing a great job with your son, Phipps Mike – keep up the great support! Homeschooling was the hardest thing I ever did, even harder than running an engineering business. Some days I felt like such a failure. But I got the ultimate compliment from my son, who is now grown and works for a major engineering company: he said that his older co-workers are coming to him and asking him how to homeschool, based on what they see from him at work.

          So, I just want you to know that perseverance DOES pay off.

          • MamaBear

            Unfortunately, in a family where there is a single parent, or both parents have to work, home schooling is not usually an option. And many of those same families cannot afford a Christian School. I would advise people to be cautious of charter schools. They are still public schools, just privately run. There are some that are run by Muslims. Some charters are great, just don’t assume they all are.
            A new trend I recently heard about, used by both Christian and charter schools, is a hybrid between homeschooling and the classroom. Students are in class 2 or 3 days a week and do school prepared assignments at home with their parents the other days. There is the guidance of a teacher, an opportunity for music and sports, socialization, but the parents are fully involved in their child’s education.
            We need to make Christian education more affordable. The Christian School where I volunteer has a scholarship fund for those who cannot afford tuition. About 50% of the students are on scholarships that range from 15% to 100%. Also, in my state, you get a tax credit for donating to any public or private school in the state. You cannot get the credit for your own child’s tuition, but friends and family can designate their donation to go to a particular child’s tuition. I think we could all help make Christian education more accessible by donating for financially based scholarships or donating directly towards tuition of a child we know even if your state has no tax incentives for such donations.
            There are still Christians teaching in the public schools. If that is the only viable option a family has, find out who those teachers are and request them. Often, schools will try to accommodate families who request a certain teacher before the next year’s class lists are prepared.
            My church has “adopted” a local public school. We collect school supplies and encourage members to volunteer there. Although we can’t openly talk about Jesus there, every kid in that school knows that our church cares about and helps their school.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Agreed 100%. BTW, HSLDA does offer financial help to single parent families, and other situations, who want to homeschool but can’t afford it without help:

            http://www .homeschoolfoundation .org/index.php?id=109

            And yes, I was referring to reasonably well-off families who would have to make minimal sacrifices (lose the extra SUV or move to a home less than 5000 square feet, etc) if one of the parents stayed home and homeschooled as being those who should seriously search their hearts and ask themselves what is more important: the bling or their child’s indoctrination? (Assuming that IS the choice.)

            On the plus side, our eldest went all the way through the public school system and was quite well served in our red state highly technical city. And, most rural southern schools probably have a very high concentration of Christian teachers anyway. So different strokes for different folks.

          • MamaBear

            All three of mine went through the public school system. At the time there were three choices, public school, home school, or Catholic school. We couldn’t afford the non-Catholic tuition and I needed to work to afford our 1200 square foot house and used compact cars. But God is good, and all three are Christians despite having been through public school.

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            You did good, MamaBear!

            And, I should add that the decision is not always between the parent’s bling and the child’s best education alternative. I might have left that impression.

          • Mark Belk

            I agree that some families can’t afford to home school because they have already cut the “fat” from their budgets but those who say they can’t afford it because they would have to downsize their expensive homes and autos, get out of the country club, take fewer or less expensive vacations, ect., ect. Are doing their children and the country a great injury.

  • John

    I hope they get every penny. I’m sure the “you shouldn’t care if you don’t have anything to hide” folks will disagree.

    • Johnny Olson

      So, CPS abuses their authority, these people sue for $60 million…which taxpayers will be on the hook, not CPS…and you want them to get every penny?

      What CPS did was absolutely wrong and unconstitutional, but we need these suits to punish CPS, not taxpayers.

      • Vunderkint

        I agree but how do we go about punishing these government functionaries that overstepped their bounds?

        • Herman Christian

          One way to punish them is to go up their chain of command to the first elected or appointed head that swore an oath to defend the Constitution of your state and the U.S. against enemies foreign and DOMESTIC .
          Most must affirm that oath before assuming whatever position .
          When they condone or create laws and statutes that violate those Constitutions , they have violated that oath and are guilty of treason . THEY ARE NOW DOMESTIC ENEMIES of those Constitutions .
          When the people don’t enforce this it gives that feeling of entitlement and invincibility to the criminal in violation . They are not omnipotent you know ?
          If a law officer see’s you day after day violating the law in an particular area every day and never takes action to address you over it , you’ll begin think well this must not apply to me then as it’s setting a president for enforcement of that law ? Just like the officials that could believe that hiding behind the deep pockets of public money and the lawyers that feed off of it .

          • Eileen Kuch

            Nailed it!! 🙂

          • Tara Gallagher

            Yes Absolutely Nailed it!!

        • Jane Jessee


        • Johnny Olson

          We have GOT to start unifying and changing government from the city level, then county, then state then federal. We need to support each other in such a situation. They are state employees…everyone in that state that sees this as a violation must contact their legislators and DEMAND that this be fixed or they will be removed from office until those who will protect rights are in office.

        • jake

          I think that when these types is situations occur they should take the money from the government workers pension plan. Make them accountable for their misconduct. Make them more likely to police themselves from within.

        • Frank

          Grassroots movement to get the laws changed to allow the government CPS agents to be sued by the accused for breaking the law even if someone is found guilty of child abuse.

          • Janet Faber

            CPS needs to follow the law, get warrants if they want entry into a private residence, and QUIT THREATENING PARENTS!!! They are not above the law and they should be sued if they think they are, which apparently they do. Their authority has outstripped it’s bounds, and they definitely need to be held in check. As it stands, i believe they have undisclosed agendas and are kidnapping our kids; they do so without good cause, endangering children and breaking up families without any remorse. It should be widely known that they get incentives and bonuses for removing kids and placing them into foster care.

        • PollyTickle1

          By making civil employees carry an insurance bond, like police officers and CPS employees, they can be sued individually for stepping outside the bounds of law. If a supervisor okays the action, then that person can also be sued. After a person is sued a few times, you can bet the insurance company will refuse to issue them any more bonds of insurance making them unemployable and taking the taxpayer’s money out of the equation.

      • Karen Glammeyer Medcoff

        did you see where they are going to DONATE THE MONEY for other families fighting for their rights?

        • Johnny Olson

          Yeah…so CPS abuses their authority and rather than go after their jobs or the laws, this guy thinks that he should take $60 million from taxpayers and redistribute it as he sees fit???? I still do not agree.

          • Karen Glammeyer Medcoff

            I do NOT agree with my taxes being used to kill innocent people overseas for the welfare of big oil and government. I do NOT agree with my taxes being used to fund vacations for worthless POS’S in govt offices who don’t do their damned jobs. I do NOT agree with my taxes being used to bail out big corporations who’s ceo’s make billions of dollars at. but I DO agree with my tax money being distributed to HELP AMERICANS FIGHT A TYRANNICAL GOVERNMENT AND STATE AGENCIES

          • Johnny Olson

            I do not agree with 90% of what my federal taxes are used for. That does not mean that I am in favor of MORE of my money being stolen to pay for this corrupt government’s actions. This would not help fight a tyrannical government or state agency.

          • UjutPaneerak Wilkins

            WELL said, agreed.

      • John

        We vote for our leaders and therefore are responsible for the mistakes they make. We should pay the amount because we allowed this to happen. The taxpayers will punish the CPS next go around of elections.

        • Johnny Olson

          So, if a company elects a board of directors and they screw up, should the employees fork over the money out of their own pockets?

          This is bullshit. Hold those who did this accountable. It is time to stop blaming spoons for making Rosie O’Donnell fat and pencils for making spelling errors.

          People are accountable for their own actions.

          • John

            If the employees elected the board of directors of say a restaurant and policies that board makes leads to a customer getting sick, then yes. The employees should and would be held indirectly responsible. Your logic is poor Johnny. You are arguing apples and oranges in a discussion over bananas.

          • Johnny Olson

            You would be willing to blame pencils for spelling mistakes or spoons for making people fat by your logic.

            How about the parents of a 40 year old murderer?

            Give me a break. It is time for guilt to rest with the guilty.

          • John

            I’ll try to piece together your broken logic for you to understand. Voters are not pencils. Each one has his intellect and ability to make a choice and collectively, voters make decisions. Pencils and spoons don’t do that. That is where your argument is fatally flawed. Can you see the difference between a pencil or spoon and a voter? Now that you see voters, not as mindless pencils to be wielded by those in office (though sometimes they may appear like that) but as people who collectively make choices, you should be able to see how those same voters should be held accountable for their decisions.

          • Johnny Olson

            I understand completely. My point is that we have become a society that blames anyone but the guilty. As for the voters responsibility…where does it end? They did not vote for those CPS employees. If voters can be held accountable for those that our elected officials hire, why stop there? Why not hold us accountable when one of those CPS employees’ children commit a crime?

            Where does it end?

            Hold those who did it accountable for the several laws that they broke in that invasion and include jail time. That would have more impact in stopping such occurrences in the future than an obscene amount of “damages” paid for by taxpayers.

      • Gina

        The person who was at fault in this incident is being sued personally also. That is what it is going to take. Sue each person individually.

  • The police, having some kind of authority to investigate crime according to the law, have abdicated that authority to the CPS, who have no accountability, and do not need to adhere to the law. Anything that CPS do is “in the interests of the child”, so on the basis of a mere difference of opinion with parents on some matter (e.g. a discipline problem with a child), they get to play lawgiver and judge, jury and family executioner, dragging off family members to whatever abusive hell-hole they are funding as part of “the system”. Why they get to act as policemen, as if they are enforcing the law, without actually being policemen is a complete mystery. The police, for all their flaws, do at least have a clear structure of authority and accountability.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      This is a very true statement. When we were homeschooling, we had a membership in HSLDA (highly recommended) and each month we got their very informative magazine about what was happening across America and even in foreign countries.

      It seemed like a month could never go by without some overzealous social worker playing “god” and violating the 4th Amendment rights of homeschoolers. MOST social workers know their limits, but you would be shocked at how many not only have never heard of the 4th Amendment, but do not care if they violate it.

      Prayers and blessings to the many social workers with proper discernment and wisdom to not cross the line – we know your job is difficult and not rewarded with much pay.

      • MamaBear

        One of my daughters worked as a social worker for a private agency that contracted work from Child Protective Services. CPS social workers in our state are seriously overworked, and it is doubtful one would take two hours based on an anonymous report. However, they have a reputation of being harsher than private agency social workers, maybe because they are overworked.
        My daughter had to do home inspections and family interviews to approve homes for foster care and adoption, and said it was important to always be respectful because some of it was pretty prying and invasive.
        She did say a lot of social workers are strongly anti-gun and want to go above and beyond the gun safety guidelines, so if the agency she worked for suspected a family kept guns they would often send her because she (coming from a “red-neck” hunting and fishing family”) had a knack of politely confirming everything they needed to know, and if gun safety measures were insufficient, she knew how to explain them without upsetting gun owners.

    • Nicholi Hel

      The Police in NJ have accountability? Now that’s funny.

  • FoJC_Forever

    It is wise to be cautious in voicing support for people when you don’t know everything about the situation. Hopefully, this couple is raising their son properly. If so, this state agency (and all state agencies) needs to be revamped so they cannot violate the Constitutional Rights afforded every American citizen.

    • Frank

      The point is there is no excuse for the PA cps breaking the law, whether or not these parents did any wrong or not. Even the cops are forced to follow the law whether or not someone did wrong or not. If the government agency does not have to follow the law and is excused from breaking the law just because someone did wrong then there is no justice and we are just as bad as the ones who did wrong and hypocritical and with no moral authority to bring justice on anyone.

      • FoJC_Forever

        Unless more details are being published elsewhere, this article doesn’t give us enough verifiable information to draw a substantive conclusion that this couple has done nothing wrong concerning their home schooled child. There also isn’t enough information to clear the government agency of wrong doing.

        There have been other stories like this one and people automatically assume wrong doing on the part of the government agency because home schooled children are involved.

        Follow Jesus, find Wisdom.

        • Frank

          Based upon the article, which is what we have to go on and discuss, the CPS did wrong and so need to be held accountable. Also more than likely the article is spot on for what CpS did. They regularly do the illegal things being described in the article and need to be held legally accountable even if the parents did wrong. There is no excuse to CPS to violate the rights of the parents and their children. The CPS system is corrupt and needs to be gotten rid of. And people assume CpS did wrong not because of homeschooling but because it’s CPS.

          • FoJC_Forever

            The information in the article may not be complete. To assume we know everything about what the agency did and what the couple is doing concerning their son is not wise. I’m not supporting government agencies having free license to violate the rights of citizens, since that is wrong. However, I’m not going to automatically assume these people are innocent of wrong doing simply because a government agency is suspected to be violating their rights.

          • Frank

            Try a google research on false allegations of child abuse, and fighting CPS/DSS/DYS. Read the documented stories from even lawyers, former CPS workers, etc.. Research Nancy Shaefer a Senator that was gunned down in her home because she was exposing the corruption nationwide. There was also an FBI agent that investigated CPS, resigned then went on a national speaking tour exposing CPS, who was also murdered for doing so. The chances this article is not spot on is slim to none.

          • Janet Faber

            Yup. murdered for investigating CPS. Frank you really know your stuff. I also have been researching this. Rabbit hole leads right to pedogate. Extremely disturbing and most ppl would rather look away.

          • FoJC_Forever

            Based upon the article, we don’t have enough information to draw any substantial conclusion.

      • Janet Faber

        amen. Same goes for Clinton “who does not have to follow the law and is excused from breaking the law just because someone did wrong then there is no justice and we are just as bad as the ones who did wrong and hypocritical and with no moral authority to bring justice on anyone.” and amen to that

  • New Jersey DCPP: “a parent’s right to familial integrity ‘does not include a right to remain free from child abuse investigations.'”

    US Constitution: yes, it does, unless the state demonstrates probable cause and the parents are given the full right to face their accusers.

  • acontraryview

    $60 million seems reasonable. After all, they did have to answer a few questions.

  • Peter Leh

    Having HS my children in the past, in general you can “read between the lines” and see if the parents complaints are legit. Given the information in the story it looks like the parent have a legit complaint.

  • disqus_tKUiAezKl2

    As long as we do nothing, this will continue and get worse.

  • anon

    they are busy making up new departments for what? Creating jobs for who? instead of making up new govt offices to harass the people maybe try stopping the free trade so industry can come back and people can get respectful jobs?I personally think this department was created so they can go around and see who and who doesnt have guns..send in some thugs steal the guns.. In my mind its about the guns. nothign to do with the child..but then again i could be wrong, but who the hell does she know about the guns?

  • Herman Christian

    There is something to point out here that needs to sink in to the thinking process of what is increasingly going over the heads of Boobus Americanus .
    Complaints and Safety . These words are the mainstay of invasive out of control elements of all government levels .
    A friend of mine is in County code enforcement . He said 95% of his work load is complaints from neighbors calling on neighbors . Him and others like him must respond to ALL complaints from citizens . Police , CPS , and most other alphabet agencies operate along the same lines of invitation via complaint . Public and individual ” Safety ” is another majority justification for intrusions into your private life .When you read the articles like the one above , look to see if the situation was generated using these words and phrases ? Most you will find do .
    So , when you decide to pick up the phone to appease your affront or just to harass people , stop and ask yourself is it really worth tearing your neighborhood, Constitution, or country apart for your pissy anger or self justification ?
    Also , who or what is the final authority in your life the State or your own self control .If you can’t answer that then you do not need nor deserve liberty in this Republic .

  • Malinda Sherwyn

    Christian Churches need to heed the call of non offending parents when they organize protests against social workers storming American homes and seizing children into the hands of unsafe foster care providers or group homes. We have tried to approach many church leaders. There are 500,000 children in foster care most of them do not belong because most of them have at least one, safe fit parent, grandparent or family member who loves the child and is willing and able to raise him. Stand up people it can happen to anyone.

    • Frank

      Proven statistics show a child is 4x more likely to be murdered and abused in Foster care and by the hands of Case Workers than by the parents whos home they were removed from.

      • gizmo23

        What stats?

        • Frank

          Documented Directly from the National Center on Child Abuse and Neglect.

          While in the custody of (Cps/Parents): Physical Abuse 160/59, sexual abuse 112/13, neglect 410/241, medical neglect 14/12, Fatalities 6.4/1.5. Per 100,000

          • Janet Faber

            CPS is a racket. It needs to be disbanded.

  • plainsite

    60 million is not enough I would love to see them shut down that department of arrogant bureaucrats

  • Vince Catalano

    What Happened to Our Freedom in America?

  • archaeologist

    someone needs to fight these gestapo tactics by the government.

    • gizmo23

      So child abuse shouldn’t be investigated?

      • Frank

        But the law and Constitutional rights should not be violated in the process. I know a case where CPS violated all of those, did their investigation and found no abuse going on. The lawyers filed a Motion to Dismiss. CPS even had their Director come in to court and say there is nothing going on we agree to dismiss the charges. The guardian ad litem said the same thing. The kids said the same thing. But the judge said they had to be guilty and how dare they not come into the courtroom with evidence of the parents guilt and then fired the CPS caseworker and guardian ad litem from the case and set a trial date. Corruption to the core.

  • Steve Trent

    Did you notice how general and vague the description of the complaint was? “Improper home schooling.” In our current secular, anti Christian culture that could include things like having the kids learn the Bible and even exploring alternative explanations of origins such as Creation or intelligent design. Or even teaching them about moral absolutes.