Blasphemous Play Depicting Jesus as ‘Transgender Woman’ to Be Presented in Northern Ireland

Clifford-compressedBELFAST, Northern Ireland — A blasphemous play depicting Jesus Christ as a transgendered woman is set to be performed at a homosexual festival in Northern Ireland.

“The Gospel According to Jesus Queen of Heaven” is scheduled for showing on Nov. 15 at the Outburst Queer Arts Festival in Belfast. It was created by Jo Clifford, a man who identifies as a woman.

“The play imagines a transgender Jesus coming back to the world today,” Clifford told BBC News. “She pitches a sermon and tells a few very familiar gospel stories.”

“Our mother who art on Earth, blessed is your name. … Give us this day our daily kisses,” a promo video for the production states, showing homosexuals kissing each other. “For yours is the queendom, and the beauty, and the Church forever and ever, amen.”

This year is not the first that the play has been presented. In 2009, the production, which was performed as a part of the Glasgay! arts festival, was met with protest outside of the Glasgow theater as some found the play to be blasphemous. Nearly 300 people gathered to sing hymns and hold signs such as “Jesus, King of Kings, Not Queen of Heaven” and “God: My Son Is Not A Pervert.”

“True biblical Christianity is becoming marginalized through political correctness,” Jack Bell, pastor of Zion Baptist Church, told reporters that year. “If this play had treated the prophet Mohammed in the same way, there would have been a strong reaction from the Islamic community, but that just wouldn’t happen.”

Clifford denies that the play is blasphemous.

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“As a practicing Christian myself, I have no interest in attacking the church or mocking the church or making fun of the church or in any way, being blasphemous or offensive,” he said.

As previously reported, a United Church of Christ congregation in Massachusetts recently hosted what it called a “Drag Gospel Festival” in support of the homosexual and transgender members in its assembly.

“What do drag queens or drag kings have to do with Jesus or the gospel?” the First Church of Somerville wrote on its website. “We at FCS believe ‘God don’t make no junk.’ So whether you are straight, gay, lesbian, bi-sexual, transgendered or still playing hard to get, Jesus loves you and so do we! Amen baby! So come and get yours at this here church!”

Over 250 people attended the service, including one man who walked to the front of the room upset about the event flyer, which featured a graphic of Jesus wearing makeup and earrings.

“You paint up Jesus Christ like a prostitute,” he declared.

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  • Tux

    Woe to you on judgement day, lady

  • Ruth Davis

    He’ll has no fury , until judgement day.

    • Nofun

      Then all the people you hate will get there’s, hey.

  • The Last Trump

    What? NO Queen Muhammad!?
    Yeah. Didn’t think so. Cowards.

    • John_33

      True. Also, notice how Muslims never complain when people mock Jesus even though they claim He is one of their prophets? It shows what they really think of Him.

  • Reason2012

    It just goes to show you what the movement is really all about: acidic, vile hatred towards God, Jesus, Christianity and Christians. This is hardly a surprise.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      What movement?

      • The movement. Read the comment. It said “the movement”.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          I read it. Now, which movement is that?

    • Nofun

      Who can hate god? Christians and the faithful don’t and atheists can’t hate a faith construct anymore than they can hate Santa.

    • George Simpson

      Yes, reciprocation for all of what christianity has done to direct acidic, vile hatred towards homosexuals and transgender.

  • Bacchus

    The wrath of God will descend on this earth with a vengeance. They will have hell to pay. Yet they will still mock Jesus even in the Tribulation. The final countdown has already begun.
    Mat 24:38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
    Mat 24:39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
    Mat 24:40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    Mat 24:41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
    Mat 24:42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.

  • Mary Waterton

    Unlike the United States which had sodomite marriage forced on it by the Supreme Court, Ireland legalized sodomite marriage by way of public referendum. The people of Ireland are without excuse. It will not go well for them on Judgment Day.

    • Martin Walsh

      I don’t think any country will be able to crow before God that day. Incidentally abortion is illegal in Ireland unlike the US – 10s of millions of innocent lives murdered to date and continuing. That’s even more egregious in my eyes than SSM.

    • Cady555

      FYI. Northern Ireland is not the Republic of Ireland.

    • Patrick Van Der Ven

      Mary, why the invective? Married homosexuals were permitted full access to the church until the 4th century AD and Jesus recognised gay are gay and he cured the lover of a homosexual in the bible and commended the homosexual on his faith. So please careful applying a false judgement against the people of Eire, for as you judge so shall you be judged.

      • MamaBear

        Homosexuality was condemned by the early church. See 1 Corinthians 6:9-10. “You shall not commit pederasty” from the Didache (early 2nd century Christian document), Tertullian, Justin Martyr, Clement and other early church fathers spoke against homosexuality. There is no record of Jesus curing a homosexual’s lover.

        • Patrick Van Der Ven

          Dear Mama, thank you for writing to me. I will give the exact quote. “You shall not commit murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not commit pederasty, you shall not commit fornication, you shall not steal, you shall not practice magic, you shall not practice witchcraft, you shall not murder a child by abortion nor kill one that has been born” (Didache 2:2 [A.D. 70]). Pederasty is not consensual homosexual sex. It is involves an active older male having intercourse with a young boy which is paedophilia, not homosexuality. If you would like to Check it was not until the Council of Granada in 305 AD that homosexuals were excluded from communion in the Western Church and at the Council of Ancrya in 314 AD. Up until then married homosexual were permitted full membership of the church as sacraments. It was not until 346 AD the homosexual marriages were outlawed in Rome.

        • Basset_Hound

          Imagine if they had offered up a play like that about Muhammed….no wait…we don’t have to! Hundreds are dead in Paris from multiple attacks.

    • Nofun

      Judgment Day is every day with you.

  • As in the days of Noah, so shall also the coming of the Son of Man be (Matt. 24:37; Luke 17:26). Soldier on and keep praying in intercession for these people (“standing in the gap”, warfare, etc.).

    Also, false deity worship of the ‘queen of heaven’ is nothing new. The book of Jeremiah goes into considerable detail concerning this pagan god:

    All Scriptures concerning the ‘queen of heaven’

    (references highlighted in bold)

    Jeremiah 7:16-18
    …(16)Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee. (17)Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? (18)The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to anger


    Jeremiah 44:15-17
    …(15)Then all the men which knew that their wives had burned incense unto other gods, and all the women that stood by, a great multitude, even all the people that dwelt in the land of Egypt, in Pathros, answered Jeremiah, saying, (16)As for the word that thou hast spoken unto us in the name of the LORD, we will not hearken unto thee. (17)But we will certainly do whatsoever thing goeth forth out of our own mouth, to burn incense unto the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, as we have done, we, and our fathers, our kings, and our princes, in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem: for then had we plenty of victuals, and were well, and saw no evil.


    Jeremiah 44:18-19
    (18)But since we left off to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her, we have wanted all things, and have been consumed by the sword and by the famine. (19)And when we burned incense to the queen of heaven, and poured out drink offerings unto her, did we make her cakes to worship her, and pour out drink offerings unto her, without our men?…


    Jeremiah 44:24-26
    …(24)Moreover Jeremiah said unto all the people, and to all the women, Hear the word of the LORD, all Judah that are in the land of Egypt: (25)Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, saying; Ye and your wives have both spoken with your mouths, and fulfilled with your hand, saying, We will surely perform our vows that we have vowed, to burn incense to the queen of heaven, and to pour out drink offerings unto her: ye will surely accomplish your vows, and surely perform your vows. (26)Therefore hear ye the word of the LORD, all Judah that dwell in the land of Egypt; Behold, I have sworn by my great name, saith the LORD, that my name shall no more be named in the mouth of any man of Judah in all the land of Egypt, saying, The Lord GOD liveth…


    • Patrick Van Der Ven

      Dear Adam in Christ, In a democracy people have the right to express opinions which the majority find offensive: they do it through literature and art, the press and speech. In a way I understand the play, insofar as the representation of Christ as marginalised and persecuted, but that is as far as it goes. Some people will never be good artists and rely on shock value to draw and audience. This play is doing that. It is iconoclastic to be sure, and I myself would not go and see it because it is meant to be offensive. Articles about the play just give this play free advertising. Don’t go and hope the play is FLOP and the producers lose a lot of money. Consign it to the gutter where it belongs. The Queen of Heaven is Ashtoreth in Jeremiah. This means something far blasphemous than that in the play.

    • afchief

      Well said Adam!!!

    • Ginger

      Deuteronomy 12:2 “Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which
      ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree:” [KJV] The “groves” of worship, “under the green tree”, are places where the religious sexual orgies and fertility rites took place in Baal and Asharoth worship [queen of heaven]. These included all sorts of religious rights that are unbelievable to our generation today. The “green tree” stands for the things that are
      hidden, and those things which are done in private places, which dealt with fertility rights and sexual orgies. God is telling us to stay away from those things, and even the places where those things took place. However many churches have mixed a form of these rites in with the most holiest of all Christian days, and renamed the day of “Passover” after the
      “feast of Ishtar”, and called this day “Easter” [aka Ishtar]. They give no thought to their rolling of Easter eggs out in the woods, and they have even brought this form of Ishtar worship into their churches in ignorance. They think of it as something cute for the children, and use the heathen custom with their sunrise services, which also dates back into Baal worship. There is only one altar as far as God’s children are concerned, and that is the altar of God. If you want God’s blessings you will follow those instructions
      that God is giving us through Moses. Today there are many houses that hang their shingle of their denomination out front, while inside they still teach a form of grove worship. The only way those churches will teach the Word of God is by fragmenting it to the point of supporting their own traditions and mixed doctrines. Those traditions are the traditions of men, and not as God instructed us to study, chapter by chapter, line upon line, and precept upon precept. It is the teaching with understanding of the entire Word. Christ became our Passover (1 Corinthians 5:7 KJV). Thank you for your update.

      • Oh, wow. I didn’t quite know that the “groves”, etc. involved such sexual debauchery! I kept noticing the term, throughout, in the KJV (along with “high places”) but didn’t yet understand the extent of it.

        So ‘queen of heaven’ and Asharoth are one in the same, as well? I’ve also done a word study on that pagan god and traced it back to Genesis 14, with the tribe of the Rephaims (in Ashteroth Karnaim).

  • afchief

    Transgender…another word for homosexual.

    • Patrick Van Der Ven

      No it is not. Stop that.

      • afchief

        It sure is!!!!

        November 7, 2015
        There Is No Such Thing as ‘Transgendered’
        By Tom Trinko

        Conservatives win when people have the truth, because modern liberal causes are always built on lies.

        When conservatives buy into the lie, we lose. For example, gay marriage is culturally accepted, in part, because for 30 years conservatives have been unwilling, out of misplaced sympathy, to correctly describe the gay lifestyle.

        Sexually active gays are essentially never monogamous, die young due to diseases they get from their promiscuous lifestyle, are depressed and despondent, are likely to use drugs, and are fixated on sex, not love. Being a sexually active gay is worse for one’s health than being a smoker.

        Yet conservatives generally haven’t objected to the lie that gays are just like heterosexuals. But once one agrees to that, it’s really hard to explain to low-information voters why gays don’t make great parents and shouldn’t be allowed to marry. On the other hand, conservatives have been constantly pointing out the lies of the climate alarmists, and as a result, the average American couldn’t care less about climate change. Given the truth, the vast majority of people will pick the conservative position most of the time.

        The latest round in liberals’ assault on Judeo-Christian morality is their demented desire to normalize insanity – namely that one’s sex is merely a matter of what one wants it to be. As usual, their position is based on the totally false claim that a person’s sex is not biological, but psychological.

        Christians, whom liberals constantly label as “anti-science,” have no problem realizing that DNA defines our biological identity but not who we are. Yet modern liberals reject settled science and claim that someone with a woman’s DNA can really be biologically male.

        The reality is that the only time a man is trapped in a woman’s body is before he’s born. Similarly, a man can no more will himself to be a woman than he can will himself to be Napoleon – a side-effect of this thing called reality.

        Now, men and women can suffer from gender identity confusion, but while we should strive to help those who think they’re something they’re not, the right way to do so is not to enable their delusions. If an Elvis impersonator suddenly declared that he was Elvis, no sane person would think that the loving response would be to start calling him The King.

        Showing true love to people who identify as transgendered is helping them love who they really are, not telling them that they have to change because they’re not good as they are.

        Sadly, there are signs that some conservatives are buying into the liberals’ false narrative. You might have seen conservative sites that said that the Houston “anti-discrimination” law didn’t pass. This is a bit of terminology that buys into the transgender lie. Letting biological men who simply say they think they’re women into women’s restrooms is not anti-discrimination; it’s pro-discrimination against women. Does the phrase “sexual harassment” ring a bell?

        Similarly, conservatives use the term LGBT as though it were a valid description of biological diversity rather than a purely psychological construct, developed by psychiatrists who tend to self-identify as members of the LGBT “community.”

        Like all other groups, the “transgendered” are viewed by liberals in terms of how they can be used to further the expansion of liberal power and control. If liberals really cared about the “transgendered,” they’d be helping those suffering from gender identity confusion accept who they truly are. Instead, liberals support the “transgender” cause because it’s a direct repudiation of the Judeo-Christian view that men are not gods and that men and women have a biological identity they can’t change. Additionally, by supporting the “transgender” cause, liberals attack the Judeo-Christian view that sex is about more than recreation and is intended to be between a man and a woman.

        Some conservatives feel bad about condemning the “transgender” lifestyle because they think that’s not compassionate. That’s a result of another liberal lie: the lie that saying that a person’s lifestyle isn’t good for him is an attack on the person. Liberals clearly don’t believe that, since they have no problem attacking smokers’ and overweight people’s lifestyles. However, it’s a convenient bit of intellectual octopus ink to muddy the waters and deflect the train of thought of people who aren’t very analytical.

        The reality is that it’s not cruel or unloving to point out the reality of the “transgendered” any more than it’s uncaring to describe the disaster that is the gay lifestyle. What kind person would purposely lie to a smoker about the health consequences of smoking? Yet if we lie about what being “transgendered” or gay really means, we’re lying to people confused about their sexuality about the consequences of their choices.

        Even worse, by buying into the “transgender” lie, we’re directly supporting discrimination against sane people. When a man wants to be in a women’s locker room because he claims he thinks he’s a woman, one of two things is true:

        • He’s lying, because he’s a pervert who’s pretending. This may be more common among teens than one might think, since saying one identifies as a woman does not require one to dress or act like a woman, much less mutilate oneself.

        • He actually thinks he’s something he’s not, which means he’s not really mentally stable.

        In the former case, supporting the “transgender” cause is synonymous with supporting sexual harassment. It’s amazing that the same women who decry “micro-aggressions” by men and who say that a woman can decide days after having sex with a man that she was raped believe that making a teenage girl shower with a boy is just fine.

        In the latter case, allowing a testosterone-powered boy to compete with women in sports is unfair to women. Additionally, many young girls will be emotionally disturbed by the fact that even though this guy claims to be a gal, it’s visually obvious that he isn’t when he looks at them in the shower.

        While liberals claim to worship at the altar of the nonexistent “privacy” clause found in the penumbra of the emanations of the Constitution, in this context, they appear to believe that young women have no right to privacy at all – unless, of course, they want to kill their unborn daughters.

        Once one strips away the liberal lies, the reality is that to properly live the love and compassion that comes so naturally to most Americans, one should not follow unscientific and disproven liberal dogma that one can changes one’s sex merely by willing it. Rather, one should help people suffering from delusions about what they are to become comfortable with reality.

        Once we get voters in general to realize that just as the most loving thing to do for a smoker is tell him that smoking is bad, the most loving thing to do for the “transgendered” is to point out that they can never become the other sex and that they are wonderful just the way they are. Then we’ll be able to block liberals’ attempts to force acceptance of the “transgendered” on Americans.

        • Patrick Van Der Ven

          I will answer this like I did your spurious last post of gays.

          • afchief

            When a reprobate mind speaks….I know there is no truth!!!

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            Truth, do you even know what the word means. You’ve posted over 11 thousand posts that beg the question?

          • afchief

            Just call me the lying liberal slayer!!!

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            Really, I have never seen a cogent religious or political argument from you. How about we term you delusional.

          • afchief

            The truth always offends. Does it not???

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            Atchief I am still waiting on a response from you where you cut and pasted a spurious argument on homosexuality. You didn’t answer that. You have not answered my biblical quotes because you can’t. The truth offends you because you do not now it.

          • afchief

            I limit my responses when dealing with reprobate minds. If I didn’t I would be on the computer all day. And I hate repeating myself.

            Besides I have already found NO truth in you. NONE!

          • Patrick Van Der Ven

            Really are you looking your own reflexion in the mirror. Dude give it up. You look foolish when you just chant a mantra.

          • afchief

            Never! I love proving liberalism/socialism wrong!!! It is so easy!!!

          • Nofun

            You are not very good at it.

            You think there are no conservative atheists.

        • Nofun

          Did someone validate your hate ..lucky you.

    • Nofun

      The Transgendered can gay or straight or any bisexual variant.

  • colleen sim

    Sad. Sad. Sad. Western countries a christian based, it’s in their laws and way of life. One thing I know is that when we shat in our own nest (s) we destroy our young and way of life and we will reap what we sow.

  • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

    I would hate to be the ones Promoting this play and also the one in this play. On the day they meet the very one they hated so much. What a heart breaking day that will be. To find out the one they hated so much. Loved them so much that He gave His life for them. Only for them to reject Him. They will see the Love they Rejected. They will remember what they could have had.

    • Nofun

      What makes you think he hates god or is not a christian him or herself.

      Not all christians are uptight right wing conservative fundamentalists

      • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

        Hmm I wonder…………………………….

        • Nofun

          God has a sense of humor …conservatives, not so much.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            God really does. But the Liberals and nonbelievers not so. You know something ?? I think I will add you to my prayer list.Maybe through God and His Love for you perhaps you can have a sense of Humor.Tomorrow evening through Sunday I will Pray and fast for you and the others on my list.I wil fast once a week for you all. Have a Jesus “Fun Filled Day”.
            Shalom <

          • Nofun

            I don’t know, it seems you are one complaining

            Ever seen a right wing comedian? Conservatives are too scared to laugh at themselves and their only form of humor is mean spirited comments usually about women, liberals and minorities. They have their funny bones removed at birth.

            This creepy praying and fasting for others is just you trying to convince yourself after someone has introduced healthy doubt into your life. You can’t keep reality out forever though.

          • LadyFreeBird<In God I Trust

            Have fun thinking what you think 🙂 Prayer is not what you think it is. Nor is fasting.

          • Nofun

            Prayer is you talking to you to try and convince yourself that something is true when you actually know its not.

            Fasting is part of the hatred of the body like whipping yourself. It is the worst solution to the extensional crisis. Its like hitting yourself in the head with a hammer (A Carson past time) … boy does it feel good when you stop.

  • acontraryview

    Ahhhh….free speech.

  • Patrick Van Der Ven

    The problem here with this article and all other articles about this play is that it is getting free publicity for this play. Just ignore it. The less advertising they get, the less money they make. The play is intended to be iconoclastic and offensive. Remember it is a fringe festival. A lunatic fringe festival.

  • Rebecca

    Stupid and foolish, that’s all this is.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      Just so we’re clear, you feel the same way about Draw Mohammed contests, right?

      • Rebecca

        Are you muslim?

        • Ambulance Chaser

          No, but so what? Are you going to answer my question?

      • Mohammed, a false prophet, had no standing to command anything. His followers may dislike his drawing as they please, but his command are of no force because he is false. Here we have a man dressed as a woman proposing to be a stupid and foolish false Christ. This false Christ deserves less respect than Mohammed, who at least drew followers after himself and established possibly the most famous false religion ever. Well known and obscure false Christs and prophets will together burn in hell. Those who love them will join them.

        • Patrick Van Der Ven

          All prophets are false if they are not incorporated in your religion.

          • The question asked by the resident troll “Ambulance chaser” suggested that people who oppose Islam (by drawing their prophet, contrary to his commands) should be fair and allow opposition to their own religion. However, both Islam and this blasphemous play have the same problem: they are false. Your point seems off topic, except in that it suffers from the same problem of falsehood.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          So you believe that the right to criticize a religion is conditional on which religion it is?

          • In this “question” you introduce the notion that there exists “the right” to criticism, specifically confined to religion. This obtuse concept has no explanatory power. You are welcome to re-read my comment, but to contort reality towards stupid concepts is a waste of time.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            So, then, there is no right to criticize a religion? What is the consequence if someone does, then?

          • What do you care? You just ask questions. You don’t even read the answers.

  • FoJC_Forever

    Praise God, Jesus (the) Christ remains the same, yesterday, today, and forever. Nothing people do to blaspheme His name or twist His Word is going to change the Salvation He offers to anyone who will seek Him and call upon Him.

    Follow Jesus, find Peace.

    • Rebecca

      Well said. I’m going to share this.

    • Nofun

      Except 4000 Christian sects can’t agree on the details.

      • FoJC_Forever

        One only has to agree with the LORD to be saved from his or her Sin. Religion and non-religion has always argued and debated.

        Those who follow Jesus find Truth. This Truth sets us free and we are truly free, forgiven, and in the process of inheriting Eternal Life.

        Follow Jesus, find Salvation.

        • Nofun

          You can’t capture truth in a dogma as truth is a direction not a destination.

          You follow questions in the direction of the truth to the answers but all answers are fleeting and at best will live on as valid in only a limited case.

          The answers give rise to doubts, doubts to questions and then more journeys in the direction of the truth to more answers.

          Religion claims it can capture truth and has all the answers. But they are not answers to any defined question. Answers with no questions cannot be understood. You have to take the journey to them because only then do they mean anything to you.

          Your faith is real as any human behavior but the object of that faith is not. There is no evidence of any gods, souls or afterlives.

          • FoJC_Forever

            You are very religious. If you weren’t you would have no interest in coming to a religiously oriented web site.

            Every person is religious in one fashion or another.

            You choose a path and mindset of Unbelief, because you fear the inevitability of having to face the Truth, who is Jesus (the) Christ.

          • Nofun

            “You are very religious. If you weren’t you would have no interest in coming to a religiously oriented web site”

            Logic fail there. Do you think a doctor associates with the sick to get sick or to cure them.

            “Every person is religious in one fashion or another”

            No. Godhead religions require you to accept dogma with no evidence. Not everyone is willing to stray from reality and pretend something is true. God is a faith construct ..nothing more … stop believing and he disappears and leaves no hole.

            When you attack women’s equal rights you are attacking and effecting real people. When you mock a faith construct the faith construct doesn’t care.

            You can’t capture truth in a dogma as its direction not a destination.

          • FoJC_Forever

            Those of us who know Jesus (the) Christ, for He is a real person, cannot be “cured”, as you infer. You come here only to trouble the minds of those who are following the LORD.

            Faith is evidence. The problem with you not seeing and knowing the evidence is that you’re like the other falsely religious – you think Faith is simply belief.

            You can’t pretend something which is real is not there and not face the consequence of the lie you’ve told yourself. You are already empty, so you don’t feel or sense the difference when you make statements about God not existing. You’re currently in the vacuum of Unbelief.

            Feminism isn’t about women being treated equally, it’s about women having the right to have their baby murdered while it’s in their womb. Feminism is against God’s Will and Word, therefore it is evil.

            You are not mocking a “faith construct”. You are mocking God and those of us who know Him. You simply lie to others and yourself about your intentions.

            Your last statement in nonsensical, although it has an air of intelligence.

            Truth is Jesus (the) Christ. Truth is the Word of God. Truth is Eternal. Truth doesn’t have a beginning, nor an end. Truth never changes. Truth is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

          • Nofun

            No you don’t. You have faith he is real. You have no evidence he is real. The basic problem is just that …your faith is real as any human behavior but the object of that faith is not.

            Evidence is reality. Faith is believing something without evidence. If its real you don’t need to believe in it.

            So you think Feminism is only about abortion? Ever consider you have no idea what you are talking about? You really should.

            No, I want to save you brother from wasting the only life you get pretending to be someone other than yourself.

            Truth is a direction. You pursue questions in the direction of the truth to answers. Unless you take that journey the answers make no sense. Its like getting a list of school exam answers and pretending you are educated. All you can do then is believe the answers.

            Sadly though all answers are fleeting and at best will live on as valid only in a limited case. All wisdom starts with doubt. Doubt about the answers leads to more questions and more journeys in the direction of the truth to more answers.

            Religion claims it can capture truth and its answers are always valid. But answers without questions are meaningless and you can’t capture the truth … only move closer to it.

            Here endth the lesson.

          • FoJC_Forever

            Those like you who embrace Darkness always flee from the Light of Truth, who is Jesus (the) Christ.

            Faith is evidence. Faith isn’t simply what one believes, Faith comes by hearing and believing God. Those who don’t hear God do not know God and are in Darkness.

            Your gobbledygook only fools those who are in the Darkness with you. Those of us who know the Truth do not entertain your satanic nonsense.

            The “lesson” will end for you when you stand before God in Judgement. I pray you find the Truth before that Day, so that you will stand before Him in His Gift of Righteousness offered through Jesus (the) Christ.

          • Nofun

            How is faith evidence? If you have evidence you don’t need faith.

            When did you hear god? Do you actually hear a voice in your head?

            Screaming Satan at me does not make reality go away little fella.

          • FoJC_Forever

            God said that Faith is evidence. I believe God, because He never lies.

            Yes, I, as all those who know the LORD, hear His Voice. No, it’s not a “voice in my head”. Is the voice of your mother, father, sibling, friend, child, or coworker in your head? No. If you can’t see them, does their voice go silent? No. You don’t hear God, because you don’t know Him, you reject Him. Thus, you reject Truth and Light.

            I’m not screaming anything at you. Satan is real. You will discover this on Judgement Day, or before if you reject the lies you’ve been told and accept the Truth, who is Jesus (the) Christ.

          • Nofun

            So god said faith is evidence and faith is evidence of god. That would be circular thinking.

            Sound pretty much is in you head but people are real and if they stand behind a wall and speak they are still real even though I can’t see them.
            So are you saying you hear a voice or not?

            What evidence do you have of Satan to say he is real? Again you have faith that the people you don’t like will be burn for eternity.

            The only lie is the faith construct. Once you stop feeding it and deflate it you will see it for the artifice it is. Its like how you can’t go back now and believe in Santa …. once its disposed of you are free of it.

          • FoJC_Forever

            Just wait until you die, then you will find out the Truth. All of your talk and questions will not keep you from facing it. Apparently, you’re one of the people who chooses Darkness and Death, so you will get what you desire.

            You can have the “last word”, if you like, but I will no longer be communicating with you.

            Follow Jesus, find Truth.

          • Nofun

            Don’t get all huffy now.

            Sadly, you will take a dirt nap like everyone else and you will never know you wasted the only life you get pretending to be someone you are not.