‘Pastors’ Lay Hands on ‘President-to-Be Clinton’ to ‘Decree and Declare Favor of the Lord’

ClintonPHILADELPHIA — Dozens of African American “pastors” from across the nation recently gathered at a private event for pro-abortion, homosexual “marriage” advocate Hillary Clinton, and laid hands on her to “decree and declare the favor of the Lord” on her for the presidency.

“Until He comes again, Secretary Clinton and President-to-be Clinton, we decree and declare from the crown of your head to the soles of your feet that the favor of the Lord will surround you like a shield, in Jesus’ name,” the clergy said, repeating after Kirbyjon Caldwell, who leads Windsor Village United Methodist Church in Houston.

Clinton had traveled to Philadelphia last Wednesday for two events, one a fundraiser at Franklin Square Capital Partners in South Philadelphia, and the other a meeting with the ministers at Mother Bethel African Methodist Episcopal Church. An estimated 100 black clergy had been invited to attend the event with the Democratic candidate, but half of those invited were present.

Clinton nodded as those gathered around her laid hands on her and engaged in the “decree and declare” practice.

Cynthia Hale of Ray of Hope Christian Church in Decatur, Georgia and Otis Moss Jr., pastor emeritus of Olive Institutional Baptist Church in LaGrange, Georgia moderated the event, according to the Philadelphia Tribune. Clinton spoke to those gathered about various issues, such as gun violence, treatment of blacks by law enforcement and the economy.

“I want to be your partner, not just your president,” she also said.

According to NBC News, at the conclusion of the meeting, 28 of the 50 clergy present pledged their support to a Clinton presidency, including Mother Bethel’s Mark Kelly Tyler.

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“I’m not saying that I’m voting for her just because she’s a woman but I’m certainly voting for her because she’s qualified, she’s capable, she’s ready to lead and the fact that she’s a woman is a plus,” he said. “We need to diversify our country.”

However, some ministers nationwide have spoken out against Hillary Clinton, noting that her beliefs and policies run contrary to the word of God.

“I hate the radical departure from holiness that our country continues to take, all while people stand by and cheer our ‘progress.’ God loathes homosexuality (not the homosexual) and yet many in America embrace homosexual marriage. Is God pleased? Ask Sodom and Gomorrah,” writes Bryan Ridenour on his blog “America, Look Up.”

“We slaughter over one million babies per year in the womb. The number’s staggering. Are Christians supposed to remain mum about this tragic court-approved holocaust? Is God pleased if we just look the other way?” he said. “When a candidate idolizes Margaret Sanger and is a darling of Emily’s List, conservatives need to run, not walk, in the other direction.”

Ridenour said that God will hold His people responsible for who they choose as their leader.

“If a church member asks in 2016 if I can support Hillary Clinton, I can unequivocally respond, ‘Not in this lifetime,’” he stated. “If we vote for leaders who support abortion on demand, then we essentially hold the surgical knife that strips life from the womb. If we vote for leaders who support and champion gay marriage, we in effect officiate at their ceremonies. God holds us accountable for what we do behind the voting booth curtain.”

“To those apathetic to the spiritual condition of America, we cannot expect God’s blessing if we kowtow to Hollywood’s mores and Washington’s track record of lies and deceit,” Ridenour said. “If we love America, we must bitterly cling to the Bible and our constitutional and God-given rights. Let’s not forget: ‘Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord…’ Psalm 33:12.”

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  • concerned

    Thank you Bryan Ridenour, for your defense of real Christianity. God will not be mocked. Hillary Clinton is an unrepentant criminal, who never talks about her relationship with Jesus Christ. What are these so called Pastors thinking ? Don’t they realize they will have to answer to God ?

    • Ruth Davis

      They Donot belong to JESUS . They can lay all the hands they want to . In fact they need hands laid on them . Hypocrites .

      • sandra-paquette-

        Just shows you how the know the Bible.

    • gizmo23

      How do you know God send all conservatives to the lake of fire?

      • Some will, not all conservatives are Christian.

      • concerned

        The lake of fire is for Satan and all his followers, which include people who have refused the gift of salvation through His son”s death on the cross.. Doesn’t matter what race, whether we are male or female we are all equal , in his sight.. We must, however, accept Jesus as our savior to be born again in the spirit.The one unpardonable sin is the rejection of Jesus Christ. As the bumper sticker says “JESUS..DON”T LEAVE EARTH WITHOUT HIM.”

        • afchief

          Is this the same concerned who posted on Charisma?

        • sandra-paquette-

          You said it all. Right On

        • Don Sbragia

          Actually, the Bible makes it clear, through the words of Jesus himself, that the criteria for sheepness or goatness is based on how you treat others. Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m fairly certain greed and lack of compassion isn’t really considered “sheepiness”.

    • Don Sbragia

      Well, I’m sure they do, now that you just informed them. But my question for you is… wouldn’t your time and energy be better spent in making yourself a better person rather than worrying about someone else’s life? I’m just guessing here, but I’m pretty sure God is a big boy now, and can take care of himself.

  • GibbyD

    Yes , pray that she becomes President so she can assure that more innocent girls and boys are killed before they are born.

    • Don Sbragia

      Yes, because I’m sure her main goal is to increase the number of abortions. Makes sense.

      • GibbyD

        You are being sarcastic. There is in fact though, a desire and plan to increase the abortions and deaths of black and minority unborn children. This agenda by the liberals and establishment elite and propagated and enhanced by money from people like George Soros , is without a question a move on their part to decrease the population and in particular those of the Black and other minority communities. If you do not believe this then you are ignoring massive amounts of writings on the subject and very provable statistical data. The only answer for you and the world , is “… repentance toward God and faith toward The LORD Jesus Christ ” ( Acts 20:21)KJB. —> (John 3:3; 1st Peter 1:23; 2 Corinthians 5:17; John 3:16; Ephesians 2:8,9; Roman 6:23)KJB

  • mae

    — FYI, in Islam, a man is not allowed to touch a woman like the pastor does.

    • Amos Moses

      Can if she is white…………. and a nonmuslim.

      • mae

        — that is what you think, from your mouth, not from Islamic sources.

        • Amos Moses

          No, from news of last new years eve rapes in Europe.

          Migrant rape fears spread across Europe: Women told not to go out at night alone after assaults carried out in Sweden, Finland, Germany, Austria and Switzerland amid warnings gangs are co-ordinating attacks
          Sweden has issued warnings to women to be wary of potential attacks
          15 young women have reported being groped by men in Kalmar, Sweden
          Austrian police have come under fire after claims attacks were covered-up
          Finnish police say they have information that the attacks are co-ordinated
          Vienna’s police chief advises women not to go out on the streets alone
          Cologne police chief Wolfgang Albers relieved of his duties over handling of New Year’s Eve sex attacks
          dailymail co uk

          What better source than their own actions?

          • mae

            Apparently, you do not know the difference between Islam and Muslim.

          • Amos Moses

            Ahhhh, sure, whatever………………..

          • mae

            now you use the word ‘whatever’. Don’t use that word, man.

        • Amos Moses

          www frontpagemag com

          • mae

            Apparently you do not know the difference between Islam and Muslim.

          • Amos Moses

            Lets see, a Mufti is a Muslim who expounds on Islamic law.

            Kind of has it all covered.

          • mae

            so you believe in mufti or in Islam ?

  • The Last Trump

    Should have performed a quick exorcism while they had the chance!

    • Tux


    • These “pastors” need the exorcism, they are grackles, chattering and crapping all over.

      • afchief

        And Christians wonder why there is such separation on Sunday mornings. As a white Christian, how can I sit underneath a black pastor knowing full well he voted for an evil man like 0bama just because he is black and for government handouts? Why aren’t these black pastors educating their people on the evils of the Democrat party and the evils of government dependency?

        Where is the wisdom and discernment?

        • Don Sbragia

          Yes, because, ALL black pastors are “like that”. Generalize much? Do you write about the evils of greed, corporate “personhood”, and our great American Gun Culture, too? I didn’t think so. Where is the wisdom and discernment?

          • afchief

            Let’s see, over 95% of blacks voted for 0bama? Why? Do you need some help? Why is it that the black community is the one race that struggles in society compared to other race. It’s kinda of ironic, in one sense black people demand special rights and grants, then complain when people think they can’t survive on their own and view them inferior. I wonder if Black people ever wonder why Indians from India are so successful in America.

            Blacks as a group must never be held accountable for their actions.
            Can you explain this?

            • Highest illegitimacy rates
            • Highest murder rates
            • Highest HS dropout rates
            • Highest violent crime rate
            • Highest STD rate
            • Highest illiteracy rate
            • Lowest test scores

            Blacks are “the canary in the coal mine.” Black culture is one big social experiment. Blacks were targeted by LBJ and The Great Society. Blacks once had normal healthy lives and were naturally evolving just fine. Blacks had real potential. Blacks were owning businesses and success was the goal. Now, after fifty years of manipulation and exploitation Blacks vote ninety-five percent for Democrats. Blacks have been brainwashed. They have been programmed to blame White Republican America. The Hispanics are coming every day to take Black jobs and lower wages. Blacks cannot see this, as a whole. Most Blacks truly believe that The Democrat Party is their best friend. Blacks are being replaced by Hispanics. Blacks are “digging their own graves.”

          • wandakate

            They also have higher rates of pregnancies/abortions.
            It all started with their ancestors apparently and has been passed on down through their generations.
            There are however many intelligent blacks, not ALL Of them are the way you have described. I think of Colin Powell, or Condoleezza Rice, Martin Luther King, Ben Carson, and that’s just a few that are popping into my head. There are many. Oh Maya Angelou, and Oprah WInfrey and Stedman Graham are some other ones. Some were blessed with good fortune apparently.
            I have seen some white people that are just like what you have described. I know you do mean the majority of them, and I understand that. Our prison system is packed with mostly black men and women. It’s unlikely to change that I can see.

          • afchief

            This is why I speak the hard truths and facts. Most do not want to hear it. It has NOTHING to do with racism. The majority of black pastors DO NOT educate their people on the evils of liberalism and dependency. If over 90% of the black race has voted for Democrats the last 50 years, it shows me a total lack of wisdom and discernment in the black church.

            The Democrats care NOTHING about the blacks. NOTHING! Democrats are still the party of slavery. The democrat party has destroyed the black family. And they are strongly in favor of killing over 1000 black unborn babies every day.

            And the majority of black pastors say and do NOTHING!!!

          • Bob Johnson

            “Why?” – “Can you explain this?”

            If you truly want an answer to your questions, I would suggest starting with Huff’s, “How to lie with Statistics,” then look into the engineering quality control literature for “Control Charts.”

          • afchief

            Ahhh the victimhood mentality! Deny there is a problem and blame others! See it ALL the time!!!! I have friends are black and they are great people. And they recognize problems in the overall culture. But they aren’t “victims” and they work for a living, raising their families in a traditional manner. Good, Christ-following people. Lots of them. The bad are just so bad that they are making all of them look bad. They do admit that overall there’s a problem within their culture.

          • Bob Johnson

            Sorry Chief, engineering is about problem solving – not victimhood. Victimhood is what all the right-wing Christians feel.

          • afchief

            Problem solving? Cut off the government teat!!! Problem solved!!! Before welfare the black family had a 6% illegitimacy rate. Today is close to 75%. Why? Because black women no longer need the black man around. Welfare and food stamps have replaced the fathers.

            There is little doubt that racism is the single most destructive force in the black community. It justifies a strange sort of victimhood, dissolute lifestyles, and violent behavior that completely dominates the inner city, and it is every bit as virulent as the worst white racism of 100 years ago. It has metastasized from self-pity into an unquestioned community belief system every bit as evil and self-destructive as antisemitism in prewar Nazi Germany. All of the problems of the inner city are somebody else’s fault. It’s all Whitey’s fault, the police are out to get us, everybody is racist except for us. In fact, none of these unquestioned core beliefs are any more true than shared beliefs about “those dirty Jews” in Nazi Germany. In both cases, these views are propagated and encouraged by those who use them for their own advantage.

            It punishes black kids who work hard at school, who dress “white”, who use proper English, who fail to “respect” the authority of street gangs and the poisonous drug culture that goes with it. It perpetuates failure and the politics of envy, resentment and revenge. It is based on self-reinforcing lies that get uncomfortably close to paranoid behavior.

            We can thank Lyndon Johnson’s patronizing “Great Society” and several hundred federal and state programs from “caring” politicians for perpetuating this myth, pandering politicians who care less about the plight of the inner city than they do the votes it buys.

            The Democrat party is STILL the party of slavery. It is just a different form today.

          • Bob Johnson

            “Explanations exist; they have existed for all time; there is always a well-known solution to every human problem — neat, plausible, and wrong.” – H. L. Mencken

          • afchief

            It is true that the Left preys on the base impulses on the emotionally vulnerable and they are geniuses at exploiting human weaknesses. The most detrimental cultural sin that they exploit is not homosexuality, sloth, promiscuity, recreational drug/alcohol abuse, or 20oz sodas. It is covetousness. Ever since I was a boy, I wondered why God considered covetousness to be so evil that He would specifically name it in the Decalogue when I thought so many other things deserved to be mentioned. When our latest faux messiah in the personage of Little Barry arose in 2008, it all finally made sense to me.

            If every legitmate preacher in America (sorry Jackson, Sharpton, and Wright) regardless of denomination were to preach a monthly sermon series about covetousness for the devastating sin that it is, we could either have a national revival or a wave of persecution against Christians never seen in this country. I’m fine with either, frankly. Jesus Himself has got to be pretty fed up with how lukewarm His church has become.

          • Justice

            LBJ said, after passage of The Great Society, “I’ll have the niggers voting Democrat for the next 200 years”.

        • wandakate

          Apparently they don’t have any. I have missed you on Charisma. A woman signed in a JJJ4J had me removed. She didn’t agree with my comments. Hope your doing well.

          • afchief

            How can a poster remove you? Only the mods can do that.

          • wandakate

            She’s some older women that comments a lot of there. She didn’t like me for whatever her reasons were. She belittled me a few times as well as others. She apparently contacted the moderators and complained that she didn’t like my comments or something. I am a writer and am having a book published. I had mentioned it on there and it upset her. She accused me of advertising the book on the site which she didn’t feel I should be doing and then as I would just make my honest comments (like you do) she decided that she would collapse my comments and get me in trouble, and complain, which is what she did.
            Guess I’m off permanently, but it doesn’t matter now to me. Charisma is finally joining in with the evil world and showing their true colors. She also had Annie removed b/c Annie took up for me and had a few words with her JJJ4J (Julia) and that made Julia mad so she had her taken off as well.

          • afchief

            No loss bro. I called our Jennifer LaClair on some of here articles and a lot of my posts were deleted. They do not like people criticizing their views.

            Did you read my email conservation with their mods the other day? It showed me how immature the mods are on that site. I saw very little wisdom coming from them. They do not want to have any hard discussions or exposure of sin.

          • wandakate

            No loss sis, not bro. Wandakate is a woman, not a man (ha ha).
            I did read them yes, and I agree, but I couldn’t comment on there anymore to reply to you.
            No hard discussions or exposure of sin or truth either. Well, that being said, they would NOT like my book at all. It’s most likely too controversial for them. And I am now in the process of writing the second one. I have it written on paper, I’m just typing it all on the flash drive to take to the publisher. The first one will be in print hopefully by the end of the first week of March. Should I dedicate it to JJJ4J and Charisma? She says she’s a missionary on the island of Cyprus, wherever that is.

          • afchief

            Keep pressing on! Don’t let anger and bitterness take hold in your heart. Don’t let anyone discourage you. Whatever God puts on your heart, do it. If He has told you to share your book with that person, then do it.

            Be blessed sister! You will be persecuted and ridiculed for speaking the truth. But, that is what we are called to do in this dying world. We are to expose darkness, we are to be lights breaking into darkness and we are to spread the Gospel.

          • wandakate

            Thanks and I don’t have any anger or bitterness…I rarely get discouraged. NO, GOD didn’t tell me to share my book with her. She would probably throw it in the trash.
            She’s one of the ones that you mentioned that don’t want the truth. Most people don’t. I have a friend who’s like you and he speaks truth also and is a Messianic Jew. Great guy.
            JESUS told us we would be persecuted in Matthew 5:1-12, the last one tells us that we will be blessed because of it.
            What is your take on the pre-trib rapture? JJJ4J and I clashed over that one. And we clashed over the once saved-always saved doctrine.

        • Wisdom and discernment are all about the money now, and influence.

    • Becky


  • Amos Moses

    /////SMH ///////////// Still not getting it.

  • Reason2012

    // Dozens of African American “pastors” from across the nation recently gathered at a private event for pro-abortion, homosexual “marriage” advocate Hillary Clinton, and laid hands on her to “decree and declare the favor of the Lord” on her for the presidency. //

    “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.”
    1 John 2:3-5

    The fact they teach contrary to God’s Word shows they don’t know Him and He does not know them.

    // “Until He comes again, Secretary Clinton and President-to-be Clinton, we decree and declare from the crown of your head to the soles of your feet that the favor of the Lord will surround you like a shield, in Jesus’ name,” the clergy said, repeating after Kirbyjon Caldwell, who leads Windsor Village United Methodist Church in Houston. //

    We don’t declare God’s favor on anyone, we ASK for it. More anti-God hubris.

    • Don Sbragia

      And WHAT is the commandments of JESUS (Yes, that’s what and who John was referring to…) that we need to follow in order to have the truth in us? Anyone? Anyone? Could it be… to love one another? And even our “enemies”? Even our political “enemies? Ya’all seem to have forgotten the whole “love” thing.

      • Reason2012

        It’s not “loving” to encourage them to mock God so that they’ll end up in hell.

        What did Jesus say? Kill your son/daughter if you couldn’t be bothered allowing them to live long enough to be adopted? That men having sex with men is ok? That two men is a marriage?

        Hiding behind mockery of God as “love” for others is disingenuous.

    • Ruth Davis

      Isn’t this what the white evangelicals did to Trump . The point isn’t weither they are black or white , the point is they don’t know JESUS .

  • Steven

    Well…all I know is that these should’ve been the words these pastors [sic] spoke:

    proverbs 5-8
    But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.
    Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
    Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.
    Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth.
    Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:

  • WorldGoneCrazy

    To the apostate “pastors” in this article: black babies matter – even in the womb. You placed your filthy hands on a woman who was “honored” with the Margaret Sanger Award:

    “We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.” – Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, 1939

    Every 4 DAYS in America, more black babies are legally killed than all of the blacks killed by the KKK in 150 years.

    http://www .blackgenocide .org/home.html

    Now, “pastors,” go wash your filthy hands in the blood of Jesus and gain Life.

    • gizmo23

      Sanger was a hero of the South

      • StanW

        Yes, all those Liberal Democrats in the KKK just loved her, as they do today!

        • gizmo23

          The KKK liberal?

          • StanW

            When Sanger was alive and speaking to the KKK, YES!

          • gizmo23

            Sanger=kkk=The South

          • StanW

            ==Liberal Democrats!

          • wandakate

            I remember the KKK…I was raised in north Alabama back when George Wallace was the governor, and the clan used to come to the main street of my town. I was just a kid then, and all I remember is my grandma telling me they were evil. I didn’t know a thing about them. They came with torches and they had on long white robes and cone hats on their heads.
            They chanted things that we couldn’t hear much of as we lived 1 block up from the main street. It was scary when they came to town, people would go inside and lock their doors.
            She said they didn’t like the black people or the Jews.
            All I know is that I seemed leery of them, just scared.
            I don’t know if they were invited to my town or if they just showed up. I don’t remember them doing anything bad, like torching things though.
            Even today I don’t know if they’re still active or what they are doing. I don’t know much about them.

          • Dianne

            Wandakate, they are still around. Just not as vocal publicly as before

      • WorldGoneCrazy

        The South was controlled by the Demon-crats, who launched the KKK, Giz, as a way to terrorize those “evil” Republicans who had abolished owning black people – which Demon-crats love so much:

        “I accepted an invitation to talk to the women’s branch of the Ku Klux Klan.” — Margaret Sanger

        • gizmo23

          This was almost 100 years ago. How is it relevent today. Sanger also had the support of many churches

          • StanW

            So you bring up a relation between Sanger and the South, and not it isn’t relevant?

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Anything to justify voting Demon-crat.

          • gizmo23

            You brought up things that happened 100 years ago, not me

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            It is relevant today, because the Demon-crat Party was morally wrong when it came to the liberty (and lives) of black people just like today the same party is morally wrong when it comes to the life of the preborn child.

            Oh, and Hell-ary was honored to receive the Margaret Sanger Award, so it MUST be relevant to her. 🙂

          • BobRumba

            They are called “Democrats”.

          • The Last Trump

            Tomato, tomahto…

            Missed you, Muffin!
            Good to see that at least ONE of your profiles was spared the axe!

          • BobRumba

            Still playing games, eh? I think your boyfriend can defend himself.

          • Becky

            Lol! Hilarious!

          • afchief

            And the Demon-crats have two great commandments!!!! Love your God (0bama) with all your heart, and if your neighbor has more than you, it is within your right to take what is yours.

          • Don Sbragia

            Actually, we pretty much have one. It’s the “Star Trek” commandment… “The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one…”

          • afchief

            Redistribution of wealth is not JUSTICE, it is THEFT. God did not give the Ten Commandments to Moses that read, “Thou shall not steal, unless Congress passes a different law.” In fact, the Ten Commandments rule out socialism because socialism legalizes theft (Eighth Commandment) and institutionalizes envy (Tenth Commandment)! Contrary to liberal thought, forced redistribution of wealth is immoral. True effective compassion is voluntary—from the heart—and for the recipient it is (a) challenging, (b) personal, and (c) spiritual. In other words, the down-and-out need more than money; they need encouragement and spiritual food. Government offers none of these criteria. Whenever wealth is redistributed, an injustice is done to at least one party. While government may legitimately encourage voluntary giving—and encourage institutions that facilitate it such as Christian organizations—it has no moral authority to force people to give by the heavy hand of the state. (Helpful book: The Tragedy of American Compassion by Marvin Olasky.)

            “The only lasting solution to poverty is wealth, and only business—not government, not non-profits, not even the church—creates wealth….The love of money is the root of all kinds of evil; its pull is powerful, causing some to even walk away from the faith (1 Timothy 6:10). And we in the U.S., who are wealthier than any people have ever been, need to be constantly warned. But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a moral quality to wealth. Nor does it mean that the essence of capitalism is greed. Market economies work, Jay Richards says, because they allow wealth to be created. Only wealth can reduce poverty.” —Richard Doster,

          • wandakate

            When you mention wealth a few people pop into my mind automatically…Bill Gates, and Donald Trump, and Mark Zuckerberg…that’s a ton of wealth just between the three of them, but do they love their money? Donald is always boasting and bragging about what he has and has done. I got his ne book Crippled America and I can count the letter “I” on just about every page. I did this, and I did that, and if I am President I will be doing this and that. I have already done so and so and such and such. It would be better if he was giving credit to GOD for what he has been blessed with and has been capable of doing, instead of taking all that credit for himself.
            I am writing 5 manuscripts, combining 2 into the first book, 2 into the second one and the 3rd one will stand alone. GOD is the author of ALL of them, and I tell the readers right off that it’s HIM that did all of this, and not be.
            I am only an instrument, a vessel that He has chosen to do His work…ALL praise to the LORD, not self. We tend to be self-righteous, and I’m sure GOD isn’t pleased one iota.

          • afchief

            Go to this website and read all about the evils of liberalism and socialism. I go to all the time when I’m researching a subject.

            http://www.faithfacts. org/christ-and-the-culture/socialism-not-compassionate

          • wandakate

            Missed you on Charisma. Did I tell you JJJ4J had me removed? Yeah, I think I did.

          • afchief

            Yea, you did, but who is JJJ4J?

          • gizmo23

            Republicans also supported her

        • Don Sbragia

          You conveniently forget that the roles of the Repubs and the Dems have essentially criss-crossed and flip flopped since the Ancient South. You conveniently forget that, essentially, once upon a time the Dems were the racist, bitter, angry ones, but have swapped places with the Other Side. Convenient forgettor is convenient. And forgetful.

          • GibbyD

            The racist devilrats have not changed their spots. They just found and promote a new way to enslave and lord over , it’s called big government and an over-extended massive welfare system. The commands of Jesus concerning giving and helping the poor, was on a personal level. It was not saying you are suppose to steal or use the government to steal from others to pay and provide for people and causes who the Government decides gets it , it was directed at you personally Don , and urging you to personally help those that are you neighbors that have needs. You are to be the giver , not the government

          • WorldGoneCrazy

            Oh yes, the parties magically switched sides without telling anyone. De Nile ain’t just a river!

            Even the NYT debunked that nonsense:

            http://www .nytimes .com/2006/12/10/magazine/10Section2b.t-4.html?_r=1&

        • Seamus IronSaint O’Fithchellai

          I love the rewrite of history…the southern democrats became republicans after what they considered treachery on the part of the southern texan Johnson who, obviously controlled by satan himself, felt that killing anything not white and protestant probably wasnt too christian and introduced both the civil rights act and voting rights act….essentially the last stand of the republican party AS representative of the Lincoln era (you know him, another demoniac that messed up our christian lovefest) voted an overwhelming 3 out of 4 for those BASIC rights that shouldnt have been voted on in 1965 since they were written in 1776…but the devil is always in the details, right? Under the regime of barry goldwater, the very poster child of our Amerikaan ways, the paradoxical twist of politics occurred…southern democrats feeling that minorities and catholics weren’t getting the persecution they deserve and having federal guns pointed in their direction in order to have little black children live normal lives, jumped ship and became republicans….to say the present day GOP is in any way connected to the republican party of yesteryear and that the present day democratic party started the kkk is like saying that germans of today are related to the germans of yesteryear and therefore support hitler…which, if he were ‘christian’, would probably be elected by most of the comment writers on this very page. Read history a little closer, stop whistling dixie and pray to OUR LORD for a sense of shame

    • Becky

      Amen, WGC, amen!!

      • WorldGoneCrazy

        Love Ya, Becky – keep up the good fight, Girl!

        • Becky

          Love ya right back, WGC!!

    • sandra-paquette-

      Gee, I wonder if Hillary would tell her daughter to abort the child she is having? This women is so EVIL.

  • afchief

    I have said it before and I will say it again; blacks are black first before they are Christians/Americans. The Christianity practiced today by blacks is not the same faith that their predecessors passed on to them. Just as white-evangelicalism has been over-run with money hustlers, black Christianity is the birthing ground of racial prejudice and government dependence, impregnated by those who profit from fermenting racial hatred. Just look at the last 50 years of black voting. Blacks have voted 90% or better for Democrats. Why? Government dependency, period. They believe the lies that the Republicans are for the rich and want to hurt the blacks. To put it another way, their loyalty is to government dependency rather than to Jesus.

    I know some will say that sounds harsh and judgmental, but “it is what it is.”It is the truth!

    White Christianity has sold out to comfort. Black Christianity has sold out to race.

    • gizmo23

      People vote their interests. So what?

      • afchief

        Ahh yes, the liberal response….who cares the cause and effect! The Democrats devised a new form of slavery for Blacks called welfare and dependency. They supported abortion and where do you find many Planned Parenthood clinics – in the ghettos. Look at all the cities run by Democrats – crime, drugs, poor schools, poverty, no jobs, gangs, but Democrats keep the welfare checks flowing and every now and then pass out free phones. But, the cities – STILL are not fixed. And Dependency – it continues to grow.

        The new chains of a more hideous form of slavery are Democrat chains.. Vouchers for poor Black families to get a better education and a chance at a scholarship and a new life?????? These vouchers are OPPOSED by Democrats. Why???

        Already, the Democrats are making moves on the Hispanic Population and there are many more of them, many more future voters. Do you think the Democrats will improve your lives when a bigger Democrat voting block is out there.

        • gizmo23

          It’s not my fault that conservatives are too stupid to figure out votes fet you elected

          • afchief

            Words never spoken so true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            The danger to America is not so much Barack 0bama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an 0bama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. 0bama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. Hopefully the Republic can survive a Barack 0bama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him their president.

        • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

          At least the Democrats keep us out of endless, stupid, unnecessary wars that bankrupt our country and moral. The Lord hates hands that shed innocent blood, and yet I hear American Christians saying carpet bomb ISIS and other countries that don’t agree with us, knowing that it will kill multitudes of kids and women. Sorry, but the right wing turkeys also have their hand in shedding tons of innocent blood.

          • afchief

            This is why liberalism truly is a mental disorder!!!! There is no critical thinking. They do not know how to think rationally or logically!!!

            Because of the millions of Christians and right wing turkeys who shed their blood over the last 250 years, you have the freedom to type your stupid posts on your computer.

            The danger to America is not so much Barack 0bama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an 0bama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president. The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. 0bama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. Hopefully the Republic can survive a Barack 0bama. It is less likely to survive a multitude of Idiots such as those who made him their president.

    • gogo0

      afchief, you ought to chair a council that identifies real christians vs fake christians. you seem to be the only person who knows who is real and who is a satan-loving faker.

      were you sent by god to be our judge?

      • afchief

        As Jesus said “you will know them by their fruits”! Bad fruit is not hard to sport by the discerning eye. We true Christians can discern good and evil!!!!

        Hebrews 5:14 (NASB) But solid food is for the mature, who because of practice have their senses trained to discern good and evil.

        • Don Sbragia

          “You will know them by their “fruits”? But I thought Jesus never said anything about teh gayz?????

          • afchief

            Jesus did say Matthew 19:5 (NASB) and said, ‘For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh’?

            Only marriage between one man and one woman has God approved. Even a rational and logical person KNOWS two men are NOT made to come together. That homosexuality is perverted, deviant and dangerous. Only a reprobate mind does not!!

    • gizmo23

      Those uppity negros always cause problems wanting civil rights and all

      • Don Sbragia

        I know, right? Next, the whites will be wanting the same thing. What do we do then??????

    • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

      Sorry, but I know lots of African-Americans who are bettering themselves with an education and building their own businesses. Blacks are hard workers and do put forth efforts to better themselves so stop talking nonsense.

      • afchief

        Sure there are some. But the majority are not. Why are close to 75% of black kids in a single family home? Why are over 50% of black pregnancies result in abortion? Why are over 50% of all murders and 60% of violent crime committed by blacks? Why does blacks vote over 90% every election for Democrats? I know the answer, but blacks and liberals do not want to face the truth.

        How can one call them self a Christian and vote for an evil man like 0bama or vote for candidates that believe in killing babies? How?

        • Don Sbragia

          How can one call themselves a Christian and be such an overt racist?

          • gizmo23

            He finds it easy

          • afchief

            How is pointing out facts and telling the truth racist? Show me where I’m wrong!

        • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

          Great question, how can one call themselves a Christian and vote for those who oppress the poor and favor the rich. As a businessman and having education in political science I must say that the apathy of the Republicans makes them just as guilty as the liberals when it comes to shedding innocent blood in the womb, making them equal on the topic, ( many republicans are pro abortion also). Faith without works is dead. They had a chance to overturn it or at least limit it and they did nothing. On top of that, they cut taxes to the super rich and cut social spending on health care and schools, making it more difficult for people who are poor to get good health coverage and a decent education. On top of that, Republicans like to say “shedding blood for their country,” Iraq was not shedding blood for the country, it was shedding blood for an ideology that is going to destroy this country over the next ten years if it isn’t stopped. Unjustly disabling countries like Iraq is what created the ISIS mess in the first place, and sticking our noses into Yemen, Syria, Iraq, Ukraine, and Iran like Rubio and other neocons want is only going to make the situation worse all while racking our deficit up.
          PS Obama is the one who bailed the banks and big business’s out, so people like you can actually sit at the computer and type, rather than being stuck on the streets. He has greatly enhanced our ability to create renewable energy, unemployment, (though not all jobs are good), has gone down, he pulled us out of Iraq like he said he would, good healthcare for many, and did many other good things as well. Also, he proposed things that work like minimum wage hikes and lower cost of education, but the republitards blocked him on every angle. My golly if they don’t get their way, they shut down the government, showing that they don’t care about the interest of the people, but their pocketbooks instead.

          • afchief

            You speak like most ignorant liberals I know. You are soooo easily manipulated to believe lies about tax breaks for the rich. Do you think you have a right to other hard earned labor? That is theft!!!!

            For one yes, the Republicans are just as guilty. They spend like drunken saliors and should have impeach 0bama 7 years ago. They are cowards!!! For two it is NOT the job of the government to bail out any business. Period!!!

            Can True Christians Be Liberals?

            By Geri Ungurean


            My husband and I attended a church back in 2008 which was predominately black. The senior pastor was black as well. We loved that church. The worship experience was wonderful, and the preaching that we heard seemed solidly-based in Scripture.

            There was a prayer service on Wednesday nights that was always packed out. We had never been in a church that seemed to love the Lord like this one.

            The presidential election campaign was well underway. We were alarmed at what we were finding out about Obama. He had close ties with Planned Parenthood. His voting record in the Senate was deemed even to the left of Ted Kennedy. He had ties with the unrepentant home grown terrorist, Bill Ayers. He attended a church which proclaimed Black Liberation, a theology that serves not to reconcile and unite blacks with the larger cultural, but to keep them separate. [1]

            In my mind I thought, “Surely, these people will not vote for Obama.” Well, I was dead wrong.

            One night I went online and searched out my pastor’s name. He was well-known for writing many books, so I thought I would find something about his life.

            I came upon a website which was all about politics from a “black”perspective. Our pastor, Pastor David, had been interviewed along with a black woman who was the head of Black Conservatives of America. I listened in horror, as my pastor spoke about Obama as if he was a god. The conservative woman was talking all about his lack of character and ties to Planned Parenthood. She said that although the black community would love to see their first black president, it was the heart and character of the person that was of more importance than the color of his or her skin.

            The next morning I called my church to speak with Pastor David. He and I spoke for well over an hour about Obama. He had the nerve to ask me, “Are you one of the white people who think that Obama is the Antichrist?” I could not even dignify that with a response. I realized that he was skirting the important issues of which I spoke, and he wanted to discredit me.

            I asked him if he was aware of Obama’s stand on abortion. He said that he was, but that the idea of America voting in their first black president was the most exciting thing he had ever encountered. I was horrified. Needless to say, we stopped attending that church.

            After the election, that pastor wrote a letter to his church on their website. He spoke about a “White woman who just couldn’t be happy with them that America had their first black president.”

            Can a true Christian vote for the party that supports abortion up to the time of birth? Can a true Christian vote for a party who booed God at their Convention? Can a true Christian vote for a party which believes in and promotes same sex marriage?

            I say NO. You cannot be a Christian liberal. That is like saying, “A Jewish Nazi.” It does not work.

            Exodus 20:13 says: “You shall not murder.”

            What is abortion if not murder?

            It is taking the life of an innocent baby. The liberal Democrats scream about a woman’s right to “choose” abortion. They say that she has control over her own body. Well I have news for them: When she conceived, there are now two bodies – not just her own.

            The Word of God says:

            Psalm 139:14: “I will give thanks to You, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made;

            Wonderful are Your works, and my soul knows it very well”

            Jeremiah 1:5: “Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, and before you were born I consecrated you; I have appointed you a prophet to the nations.”

            We were made and fashioned by His hand. From the time we were conceived, we have a soul. Abortion IS murder.

            Let’s look at what the Word says about homosexuality:

            Genesis 19:4-9: “Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.” But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said,”Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly.”

            Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof.” But they said, “Stand aside.” Furthermore, they said, “This one came in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than them.” So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the door.”

            Leviticus 18:22: “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.”

            Leviticus 20:13: “If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their blood guiltiness is upon them.”

            Romans 1:24-27: “Therefore God gave them over in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, so that their bodies would be dishonored among them. For they exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason God gave them over to degrading passions; for their women exchanged the natural function for that which is unnatural, and in the same way also the men abandoned the natural function of the woman and burned in their desire toward one another, men with men committing indecent acts and receiving in their own persons the due penalty of their error.”

            1 Corinthians 6:9-11: “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.”

            Paul said, “Such were some of you, but you were washed, but you weresanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God” (1 Corinthians 6:11).

            1 Timothy 1:9-10: “Realizing the fact that law is not made for a righteous person, but for those who are lawless and rebellious, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers and immoral men and homosexuals and kidnappers and liars and perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound teaching.”

            Brethren, these Scriptures are clear. There is no room for various interpretations! Our God detests the act of homosexuality. He LOVES the person, but the act is detestable to Him. His will is that the person repent of this behavior, and come to Him for salvation!

            If we are truly born-again from above, and love the Lord with all of our hearts, then we cannot justify voting for a liberal party. They ridicule and laugh at Christians. How can anyone say he or she is a Christian and yet vote for liberals? And so blatantly go against the Word of God!

            Last week, the mayor of Houston demanded that pastors hand over their sermons about homosexuality. She said that they needed to be sure they were correct (I say politically correct) and if not, they would be corrected. What? THIS is what happens when liberals get into power.

            Being raised in a Jewish home, we were expected to be liberal and vote Democratic always. When I was born-again in 1983, almost immediately I realized that the platform of the Democratic Party was in direct conflict with the Word of God in almost every area.

            My mother was distraught over my becoming a conservative. She even told me that she could accept me believing in Jesus more than knowing that she gave birth to a conservative!

            Brothers and sisters in Christ, if you have made the error of voting for liberals in the past, PLEASE repent of this and go before the Lord. If you know of other Christians who have made the mistake of voting for liberals – show them this article. Direct them to the Scriptures referenced here.

            I pray that Christians in America would fall to their knees and ask God to bless this country again. We are in trouble.

            2 Chronicles 7:14: “And My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land.”

            Our Founding Fathers would weep if they saw what is taking place in America today.


            Blessings in Yeshua.

          • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

            Therefore render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s and to God’s what is God’s. Taxing the rich is not theft, its rendering to society what society has allowed them to achieve. The taxes pay for schools, military, healthcare, and other social services. People get loans and grants to pay for school and such. Those loans and grants come from taxes and oftentimes people use those leftovers to go shopping, which gives money to the business, allowing them to flourish. Without social spending, this country would collapse on itself. If Obama had not bailed them out, we would be in a major depression right now and all these conveniences would not be present. Also, it would be wise to break apart the too big to fail banks so that when one fails, the whole system doesn’t collapse. Thus a balance between Socialism and Capitalism is clearly needed to avoid the continuing trend as with each major recession, the average American gets poorer and poorer. What I am totally against is people who work long hours and can barely make ends meet because a big billionaire is too greedy to pay him or her decent wage for their work. Taxing the superrich and making them pay a fair salary is not theft, its human decency and the moral thing to do.

    • Don Sbragia

      Here’s some truth for ya. You’re a racist. A racist hiding behind your “religion”, just like most racists.

      • afchief

        Typical liberal. The truth is ALWAYS the enemy!!! Never want to face facts and truth. Only blame others and point the finger. See it ALL the time!!!

        So how is our investment in the black community doing in this decade?

        Not so good. So badly in fact, all this “help” may have been worse than “no help” at all. Consider these sobering statistics today:

        * A black man has an 89% chance of spending a night in jail before the age of 30.
        * A black woman has a 70% chance of having a child outside of wedlock.
        *A black person is seven times more likely to go to prison than a white person.
        * A black person has about a 45% chance of dropping out of high school.
        * Black on white crime happens 45% of the time while white on black crime is 3%.
        * Black on white robberies are 139 times more likely than white on black.
        * Black on white rapes are 100 times more likely than white on black.
        * Blacks score 15% to 30% lower, compared to whites, on standard IQ tests.
        * Black women are 5 times more likely to get an abortion than white women.
        * In 2009, Black household net worth was $2,170, compared to $97,860 for white. (That’s incredible!)

        Blacks hold a disproportionately number of local, state and federal government jobs.

        Blacks are 10% of the U.S. civilian work force but hold:

        25% of the jobs at U.S. Treasury,
        25% at the Veterans,
        31% at the State Department,
        37% at the Department of Education,
        38% at the Housing and Urban Development,
        42% at the Equal Opportunity Commission,
        44% at Fannie Mae,
        50% at Freddie Mac,
        55% at the Government Printing Office and
        82% at the Court Services/Offender Agency.

        The average government employee earns $123,000 per year, compared to $61,000 in the private sector. This poses a huge future economic impact to the black community when the government is forced to cut back: “When” not “if.”

        Making a bad situation worse, the visible race-baiting black leadership in America (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc.) continue to push for more of the poorly thought-through government programs that have created these problems in the first place.

        On the spiritual side, it is estimated that well over 80% of black churches don’t specifically teach the Bible as God’s inerrant and infallible word.

        With Bible exposition lacking, and social sermons the norm, few blacks in America are armored with Biblical truths-which is their only hope out of their ever-encompassing mire.

        The bottom line is that blacks, as a community, are looking to the U.S. government to solve their problems when they should be looking to God.

        Who says this? Jesse Peterson at one of the Steeling the Mind Bible Conference presentations: “How Black Leadership Exploits Black America.” It’s an eye-opening presentation showing how black leadership in America isn’t doing any favors for black America.

        Peterson, once himself a victim of America’s “help” is one of the few blacks to both state the uncomfortable truths about blacks in America and boldly speak forth the answer: Repentance and turning to Jesus Christ.

        Refreshingly, Peterson sees the Light. We pray his biblically sound message sheds the True Light on others the black community.

  • Nidalap

    Easy stomach…easy…

    • Josey


    • Becky


  • FoJC_Forever

    God gives no favor to those who support murder and reject His Word.

    On a side note, Hillary would be more effective if she stayed home and baked cookies.

    • gizmo23

      You mean every conservative?

    • Don Sbragia

      Are you talking about that whole “Go and kill all your neighboring nations and cultures
      thing? So, if God gives no favor to those who support murder, does that mean God doesn’t favor God? Complicated….

      • FoJC_Forever

        God doesn’t murder.

        Hillary supports abortion. Abortion is murder. God does not give favor to those who support shedding innocent blood.

        Judgement is coming.

    • Bob Johnson

      Sure there is a right to kill. Go back and reread Deuteronomy and Numbers.

  • archaeologist

    uhm…why would God help someone who supports ideas that run contrary to his commands, instructions and teachings? These pastors do not know God it seems and support heresy over truth

  • acontraryview

    Since every candidate for president supports allowing abortion in certain instances, it appears that Christians who oppose allowing abortion in any circumstance will be free to stay home on election day.

    • gogo0

      whatever god may be out there and listening, hear my prayer to that effect…

      • acontraryview


    • VeteranOF911

      WRONG! Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio are squarely pro-life. Hillary is an abomination, and God hates workers of iniquity and hands that shed innocent blood. Psalm 5:5

      • afchief

        This person is a liar.

        • acontraryview

          Please see below

      • acontraryview

        Rubio in an interview with CNN: And, he said, it includes supporting abortion restrictions that include exceptions for rape, incest and when the life of the mother is threatened.

        “A rape is an act of violence. It’s a horrifying thing that happens. And fortunately, the number of abortions in this country that are due to rape are very small, less than 1% of the cases in the world. But they happen. And they’re horrifying. And they’re tragic. And I recognize that,” Rubio said.

        “I also recognize that because of the existence of over-the-counter morning after, not to mention medical treatment that’s now available immediately after the assault, that should be widely available to victims, we can bring that number down to zero,” he said.

        Cruz: Houston Chronicle article: “Cruz is “Strongly anti-abortion, he would allow the procedure only when a pregnancy endangers the mother’s life,”

        • VeteranOF911

          even before Roe vs Wade it was allowed if the mother’s life was in danger. Cruz and Rubio are the strongest against abortion.

          • gogo0

            strongest against abortion -yet still support abortion when they think its okay. yeah, no rationalization or cherry-picking there

          • acontraryview

            I agree that Cruz and Rubio are the strongest against abortion. That, however, does not change the factual truth of what I said.

      • Don Sbragia

        So, God hates those who send our young people off to war? Wow, I’m glad I’m not a Republican. I’d hate to get on God’s bad side…..

  • mic1969

    I decree and declare, that those bros. is wrong ! Abortion is murder.

    • Don Sbragia

      Good. You used the magic words. God HAS to do it now…..

  • Debbi Lynch

    True Christians cannot be prochoice. It’s an irreconcilable contradiction.

    • Don Sbragia

      Yes, because No True Scotsman……

  • Abimbola Eniola

    I laff. They laid more than hands on Goodluck Jonathan of Nigeria. Yet he lost gallantly. Only the person ordained by God will win.

  • Oh the apostasy of the black church, they have forgotten their first love and Truth. Do we wonder why black culture is in the condition it is, when their religious leaders are so lost too?

    • Henco Swart

      Just a thought, but is it possible that many of them they be hung-up on the ‘Black Liberation Theology’?

      • Same thing, yes it is highly likely.

    • Don Sbragia

      Just a thought, but could is it possible… that you’re a wee bit of a racist?

      • Bad thought, no. How does my statement translate to racism????

    • Ruth Davis

      Them being black has nothing to do with it . Them being pastors does .

      • Not so much, as they are not “pastors” but deceivers.

  • Emmanuel

    I wonder if she prayed the sinners prayer and gave her life to Christ? We can pray all we want and it’s good but Hilary needs to make the change.

  • Josey

    This goes to show you how desperate politicians are out for the Christian vote, we matter at election time but they are serpents with forked tongues. God’s judgement will come to those who do not repent, there is good news for those who turn to Jesus Christ and solely trust in Him, time is running out.

  • Nam Marine

    PURE BOVINE EXCREMENT ! She belongs in Federal prison !

  • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

    Interesting conversation seeing that the conservatives held the executive branch and both the house and senate during at least one point in the Bush years and did nothing to stop abortion. Sorry, but a conservative president will not change the current situation. Yes, God hates hands that shed innocent blood, but he also hates a lot of the things the so called conservatives uphold such as supporting the billionaires and wrecking the countries economy with endless wars which also kill masses of children and innocent people.

    • Don Sbragia

      I think that you, like me, may be on the wrong page…. 😉

  • sandra-paquette-

    Are they out of their minds. This women should be sitting in a jail cell along with Obama and the whole administration. Shows just how far off the church is. They don’t even know God. The scriptures says “Judgement begins in the house of the God” 1 Peter 4: 17 No discernment what ever just what ever they like. Unreal.

  • sammy13

    If the statics are correct regarding abortion, more black unborn babies are murdered (aborted) than in any other race/ethnic group. Is it therefore surprising that some black pastors would support a pro-abortion person? Pastors are human too, and have their own consciences to deal with. And all will answer at the final judgement.

    • “. . . more black unborn babies are murdered (aborted) than in any other race/ethnic group. Is it therefore surprising that some black pastors would support a pro-abortion person?”

      Not quite sure what the question means. It seems to imply that some black preachers want more black abortions.

      Whether or not this is true, it should be noted that abortion is voluntary. No one is forced. If conservatives want individual freedom over their own lives (no government intrusion), then they should extend that desire to others and not attempt to have the State micromanage the reproductive lives of women.

      Those you say are “pro-abortion,” are actually pro-freedom.

  • What a great way to get votes, whether one is religious or not. But then, that is one of the big problems with fundamentalism; when one uses strong, emotional rhetoric (details not necessary) and often thumps the Bible, he/she is most often trusted over those who do not.

    Hillary, Bill, Obama, most, if not all Democrats, simply do not thump the Bible often enough and they often give less emotional rhetoric on boring subjects like the economy and why supply-side economics does not work for the workers of America (it works only for the wealthy because it is a redistribution of the wealth of the collective wealth of the working class upward to the already wealthy, and it’s been ongoing for the last three decades).

    Too, Democrats are incessantly demonized by the corporate (anti-labor) conservatives on the RNCs propaganda network. Thus, conservative candidates are trusted more even if what they say is logically false–those who trust the candidate’s religiosity will not vet their comments and refuse to believe those who do.

    Trump, however, has bent this rule somewhat. While it is clear that he is not the devout Christian he claims to be (“the Bible is my favorite book”), he is still favored by conservatives because his bombastic rhetoric is the most emotional of them all (or at least the loudest). As well, he is a master of manipulating the media for continual coverage free of charge.

    Note, however, that while he boasts of not being tied to Wall Street, in fact, he IS Wall Street. And he is dependent on the huge too-big-to-fail Wall Street financial institutions (the same institutions most responsible for the Great Recession of 2008) for financing his projects. They also serve as a repository for his Billion$. He and they are mutual, close friends.

    I sometimes wonder how many atheists there are in Congress who claim to be Christians because, even if they are truly committed to working for the good of the working citizens, they know that they would never get the chance to serve the public were they to be honest about their humanism (an honorable term much misunderstood and feared by many [most?] Christians).

    Sometimes the scoundrels are fairly easy to spot. The politicians are those who extol supply-side economics and deregulating Wall Street financial institutions; those who often thump the Bible; those who constantly demonize and condescend to their political opposites (very emotional rhetoric and a key component of propaganda); and those who deny global warming and accept contributions from Big Oil. That list isn’t comprehensive, but it makes the point.

    There also are fraudulant preachers who amass fortunes by appealing to the emotions of believers, e.g. Pat Robertson, Benny Hinn, Joyce Meyer, Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland, etc. –all those who espouse the concept of “Prosperity Gospel.”

    The most interesting thing to me is that the degree of “prosperity” to which these folks have risen is exactly NOT what the Gospels teach (in contradiction to the Book of Job). The Prosperity Gospel doctrine is an oxymoron–a contradiction in terms (internally inconsistent).

    Bottom line, whether Bible thumping politicians or “prosperity” preachers, they are picking the paltry pockets of all the poor, pious pigeons in their following.

    • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

      A lot of pastors and Bible thumpers barely read the book enough to see what actually in there.

  • Don Sbragia

    But yet Churchianity is falling all over itself to bow down before the Donald, with his hatred, discrimination, and divisive words. Makes perfect sense. Oh, and by the way, author dude, if you believe Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexuality, you probably should actually READ your Bible. I have, many many times, and “because of teh gayz” isn’t the right answer.

    • disqus_SUijHfDO8w

      You are correct, Sodom and Gomorrah were not only destroyed because of homosexuality alone, but a long list of other sins like greed and oppression, much like this country is doing now.

  • peanut butter

    Looks like ol’ Hillary might have done something here that will ensure her doom. Pastors who align themselves with things that are abhorrent to God are working for satan. That’s why half of them didn’t show up. They didn’t want to be partakers in sin.

  • 1PierreMontagne1

    To presume to decree Gods blessing upon HIllary is to attempt to decree God’s blessing upon the foolish woman in 2nd Timothy 3. Gods does not ho9nor those who practice “a Form of Godliness”. In fact Timothy 3 goes further and says to have noting to do with such people.
    This invocation for Hillary in short becomes a mockery of both God and his word.
    The consequences for the ministries of the participants will be the next events.

  • thelordlives2011

    These apostate preachers do not even read the bible they say they preach from. Hillary Clinton is EVIL. The only people who need to lay hands on Hillary Clinton is the FBI and put her in jail.

  • Seamus IronSaint O’Fithchellai

    I cannot believe the christian love expressed in these comments…wwjd?…he’d slapped the crap out of most of you

  • Seamus IronSaint O’Fithchellai

    You don’t worship God, you worship your own beliefs about God…..

  • David Melgar

    God, the subtle racism is palpable. If you think most black Americans are stupid and degenerate except for a few special exceptions, that’s really not much better than writing them all off. Just a way of balancing internalized racism while being friends with a few “good ones.”

  • joel5454

    This is why the FEDERATION WAS CREATED BY GOD,THESE NEGROS PASTORS,bishops, rev and others churches that are AFRICAN AMERCAN WILL BE INDITED,JAIL AND THE FEDERATION WILL HAVE THEIR TAX STATUS REVOKE and the black man in all church’s will pull them out of their church by any means necessary, unless they step down and go on CNN and MSNBC and tell the world they are sorry.

  • scott

    Negros that were brought over as slaves were into dark magic and idol worship in Africa. God brought them into slavory using America to enslave them. Then at the proper time The negros were set free by God. Now All Americans are enslaved in sin and Obama is soon to be there taskmaster whether you be black , white, or very diverse as Obama is the Anti-Christ to do Gods work. ARE YOU SAVED