Tim Keller Staff Member Says Homosexuality Isn’t Sin, Part of ‘Church Plant’ Behind Transgender Restroom Plan

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NEW YORK — A staff member at New York’s Redeemer Presbyterian Church, led by popular megachurch pastor and author Tim Keller, and who handles sermon orders for Keller, identifies as a progressive who doesn’t believe homosexuality is sinful and is part of a so-called church plant whose leader recently made recommendations to do away with male/female-separated restrooms nationwide.

In addition to his leadership of Redeemer Presbyterian, which sees up to 5,000 in attendance each week, Keller is known for his best-selling books “The Reason for God” and “The Prodigal God,” as well as “The Meaning of Marriage” and “Counterfeit Gods.”

He is also the vice president and co-founder of the Gospel Coalition, a network of reformed congregations that “educates current and next-generation Christian leaders by advocating gospel-centered principles and practices that glorify the Savior.”

Additionally, Keller is known for his “City to City” effort, which seeks to plant new churches in cities worldwide. He is credited with helping to establish over 250 congregations over the past decade.

Casey Fulgenzi, formerly of Tennessee, serves as the manager of social media for Redeemer Presbyterian Church, as well as the assistant manager for Keller’s resource site Gospel in Life, where he handles the orders for Keller’s sermons. His name is included on the staff page of the Redeemer website. Fulgenzi has worked for Keller since 2014.

Fulgenzi was first involved with Forefront Church, which has dual locations in Manhattan and Brooklyn, and remains an active supporter.

The congregation is affiliated with the Convergence Initiative, “a collective of Post-Evangelical, Progressive Evangelical, Non-Denominational and Free-Church tradition churches, organizations, leaders and networks,” as well as the Open Network, both of which are homosexual-affirming and have hosted conferences featuring Rob Bell. Fulgenzi himself had his photo taken with the controversial Bell in 2013 (pictured above).

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As previously reported, the Open Network recently posted an article by Forefront Manhattan leader Ryan Phipps, who posted a “solution” to the transgender restroom use debate that would eliminate male and female restrooms altogether and replace them with one “human” multi-stall restroom.

“We have dressing rooms in just about every major clothing store that are not gender segregated. Why can’t we have bathrooms be the very same?” Phipps wrote in regard to the issue. “We mustn’t cling to antiquated ways of reasoning and separation that have long reached their time. We should think, dream, and pray about how we can be more ‘whole’ in our treatment of people.”

Fulgenzi shared Phipp’s article, stating that he was “laying down the truth.”

Fulgenzi’s wife, Lindsey Luff, a secular musician who he describes as a “bada**,” sings with Forefront Brooklyn’s worship leader Ben Grace at various venues throughout the city and beyond.

Fulgenzi is himself supportive of those who identify as homosexual and transgender, posting on his social media pages, for example, Macklemore’s “One Love” video and notating his visit to Big Gay Ice Cream in New York City, as well as other mentions regarding his views on homosexuality—that he understands the Christian objection to the lifestyle, but “I think it’s not accurate.”

“How does homosexuality effect (sic) you and other Christians? I guarantee it doesn’t directly or even indirectly effect Christians as much as greed, gluttony, theft, rape, racism, or even foul language,” he wrote during one discussion. “Yet, for what topic (aside from abortion) do Christians break out the biggest soapbox? Why? Why not focus on all of those other things that actually impact your everyday life and millions of others in a negative way?”

“Who said you had to ‘express your views’ to someone who is gay in the first place? Jesus? Nope. The gay person? Nope. Do you think they’ll listen? Nope. Why should they?” he later contended.

In February, Fulgenzi, who identifies as progressive, wrote that he will “happily vote for either [Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders] when the time comes.” He had shared an article last September on “The Christian Case for Bernie Sanders.”

“He’s Jewish, but his character, words and actions are more Christ like than any of the Christian candidates,” Fulgenzi wrote on April 16 in sharing that he went to hear Sanders speak at a local church. “We deserve that in our next president, whether he or she be Muslim, Atheist, Christian or Jewish.”

Keller himself has raised concerns for some of his comments about homosexuality, such as when he stated during the Veritas Forum at Columbus University, “[H]eterosexuality does not get you to Heaven, I happen to know this, so how in the world can homosexuality send you to Hell?”

“[W]hat sends to Hell is self-righteousness, thinking you can be your own savior and lord. What sends you to Heaven is getting a connection with Christ because you realize that you are a sinner and you need intervention from outside,” he said.

“That’s why it is very misleading even to say homosexuality is a sin because …. yes, of course, homosexuality is a sin, because greed is a sin, because all kinds of things are sins, but what most Christians mean when they say that and certainly what non-Christians think they hear when they hear that, is that if you are gay you are going to Hell for being gay. It is just not true, absolutely not true.”

Keller has also suggested that he supports at least some form of theistic evolution, writing in his essay “Creation, Evolution, and Christian Laypeople” for Biologos, “[I]f ‘evolution’ remains at the level of scientific biological hypothesis, it would seem that there is little reason for conflict between the implications of Christian belief in the Creator and the scientific explorations of the way which—at the level of biology—God has gone about His creating processes.”

Andi Brindley, Keller’s assistant at Redeemer Presbyterian Church, did not return calls for comment, nor could any of the elders be reached.

Fulgenzi/Bell photo credit: Instagram

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  • Josey

    Like I said yesterday, satan doesn’t sit in the back of the church any longer, he’s in the pulpit.

    • WorldGoneCrazy

      Amen, Josey! We must witness to pastors too – so many are confused and in need of the Gospel.

      If you are a pastor and are reading this, when was your last full sermon given on each of Hell, abortion, gay “marriage,” and divorce? If you cannot remember right away, is it because you are serving money over God? If so, your silence is deafening and you apparently do not care about the Eternal fate of the souls in your flock.

      “To the angel of the church in Laodicea write:

      These are the words of the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God’s creation. I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm—neither hot nor cold—I am about to spit you out of my mouth. You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked. I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.

      Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline. So be earnest and repent. Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with that person, and they with me.

      To the one who is victorious, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I was victorious and sat down with my Father on his throne. Whoever has ears, let them hear what the Spirit says to the churches.” — Revelation 3:14-22

      • Josey

        amen world, sorry took so long for me to respond, I don’t read all the comments as often anymore but you are right 🙂

  • meamsane

    Sounds a lot like “You shall not surely die” calling GOD a liar!

  • 201821208 :)

    “Not every one that saith unto Me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of Heaven; but he that doeth the will of My Father which is in Heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Thy name? and in Thy name have cast out devils? and in Thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from Me, ye that work iniquity.” Matt. 7:21-23

    • ComeOnPeople!

      That word iniquity means … you who practice lawlessness.

      • 201821208 :)

        ” “lawlessness”, is used in a way which indicates the meaning as being lawlessness or wickedness. Its usual rendering in the NT is “iniquity,” which literally means unrighteousness”

        • ComeOnPeople!


    • TheBottomline4This


      • getstryker

        Yes, exactly!

    • Karen

      What a frightening thing to hear Jesus say that!

      • getstryker

        Only the ‘unsaved’ need fear the wrath of God

  • Doug Evans

    “…if you are gay you are going to Hell for being gay. It is just not true, absolutely not true.” – Tim Keller

    “Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” – God

    • You may have ended the quotation a little early. “And
      such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye
      are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our

      It seems this congregation is eager to welcome certain sorts of sinners, but not that they should be washed, sanctified and justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God. Instead, they want to provide washrooms for the unwashed.

  • Amos Moses

    Apostasy……… it continues its rampage through the unsaved so called christians …….. SMH……

  • Lily Haley

    Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.

  • Joshua Krug

    You might think at least as a Christian leader, and a maintainer of the faith, he would also want someone in leadership who maintains the Christian faith.

  • Wes Wright

    Did Paul not talk about sexual immorality and that those that took part would not inherit the kingdom of God? Just wondering 1 Corinthians 6:9 are we making the Word of God null and void now or are we going to stand up for it

  • Bertha Warren

    Spirit of Confusion to some and some Spirit of Rebellion.

  • Carol Middleton

    You know NOTHING of our Redeemer Yashua, Pastor of Satan..Don’t go changing God word just o fill up your congregation..Yashua is coming soon and looks like you wont be on the good guy list..It’s you soul what ever….

  • Jason Traweek

    Leading people right to hell is what people like this are doing.Should we listen to this guy..OR listen to Christ?

    And he said, “What comes out of a person is what defiles him. For from within, out of the heart of man, come evil thoughts, sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, coveting, wickedness, deceit, sensuality, envy, slander, pride, foolishness. All these evil things come from within, and they defile a person.”

  • Clae Brewer

    Isaiah 5:20 Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil; Who put darkness for light, and light for darkness; Who put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

  • Nidalap

    Ah, another church that the current government can REALLY get behind…

    • Amos Moses

      Hope that is an unfortunate and accidental metaphor ………………… but yeah………..

      • getstryker

        Oh, I would suggest that Nidalap’s comment was neither ‘unfortunate, accidental or a metaphor’ . . . I’d say he wrote the truth . . . in church and government ‘word and deed’ – oh yeah!

      • GoodGoyProject


    • TheBottomline4This

      “church” 🙂

      • Nidalap

        Tru-dat! 🙂

    • getstryker

      Excellent observation and comment.

  • Without Yahweh’s unchanging morality as reflected in His triune moral law (the Ten Commandments and their respective statutes and judgments) as the standard, anything goes. Because most of contemporary Christianity is antinomian and therefore opposed to this ethical standard under the New Covenant, eventually anything goes even in the ranks of alleged Christianity.

    For more on how Yahweh’s moral law apply and should be implemented today, see free online book “Law and Kingdom: Their Relevance Under the New Covenant.” Click on my picture, then our website. Go to our Online Books page and scroll down to title.

    Then “A Biblical Constitution: A Scriptural Replacement For Secular Government.”

    • ComeOnPeople!

      Amen 2000 years of teaching lawlessness has brought us to where we are today.


    “[H]eterosexuality does not get you to Heaven, I happen to know this, so how in the world can homosexuality send you to Hell?” This is such a stupid statement from a man who is held in such high esteem among reformed laymen. Even if it had been taken out of context.

    As Paul says in 1 Corinthians 6 sexual immorality , idolaters , adulterers , men who have sex with men, thieves, the greedy, drunkards, slanderers, swindlers you will not inherit the kingdom of God.
    Mr Keller’s opinions about scripture are not scripture. The whole problem for Mr Keller is what is scripture and what is not. He thinks he can decide. As he has decided to let his understanding of science overrule Genesis and God’s word on how we were created in Adam.
    I recommend prayer for Mr Keller to come to the knowledge of the truth. Sola Scriptura!

    • I thought the same thing about that statement. I thought “How do you know this for a fact? Ever been there?” And if he would reply by saying the Word of God says so, he’d have to back up his statements of what the word of God says about homosexuality which he couldn’t do unless he wraps & twists Scriptures around the Mayflag pole to make it suit his own interpretation.

  • muzjlk

    Keller is an excellent Christian author. If he follows his staffers down this path of apostasy, following the crowd, he’s cutting himself off from God. We may reach the point where the few true Christians left will be meeting in secret.

    • That day is definitely coming & not slowly either.

  • George

    He makes this statement -“Yet, for what topic (aside from abortion) do Christians break out the biggest soapbox?” why are we addressing this issue today? because its being shoved in our face, we are being forced to not have an opinion about homosexuality anymore. Christian business people are being sued for standing up to their convictions, and we are losing our freedom of speech more and more. Perhaps, that’s why we Christians are a little troubled by the homosexuality that is all around us….

  • ComeOnPeople!

    First off let me just say it matters not if homosexuality effects Christians or not. People are forgetting that how we live is suppose to be pleasing to God. His ways are higher than our ways and His thoughts higher than our thoughts. If HE says Homosexuality is an abomination then it does not please HIM when men participate in that activity or agree with it. It’s about how it is seen by God Himself not how men view it.

    Second off… What sends men to hell is indeed SIN which is the transgression of God’s law (Instruction). SIN is what brings forth death. Glad he admitted Homosexuality is a sin as are many other things but he fails to tell how sin is to be felt with. We are all called to repent of our sins and return to God’s ways. Another words if you have men with men attraction ask God for forgiveness and then turn away from that transgression of HIS ways. Now walk in HIS ways and should those thoughts come back into your mind do not act upon them. Become a new man. It’s the same with any sin. We all sin but we all must repent of that sin and return to God’s ways and then walk in HIS ways.

  • disqus_O2BUmbLecp

    Most unrepentant homosexuals r atheists or idolaters who r definitely going to hell.(REV.21:7-8 & 22:12-15) As for unrepentant or practicing Christian homosexuals, that’s an oxymoron bc true Christians do not keep on living in sin or having homosexual sex or committing adultery, fornication, rape/molest, incest, bestiality, polygamy, etc.

  • hank

    You can always spot a follower of satan. They are delusional.

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    It’s useless to plant many false churches. ( Revelations ch. 2-3) Today’s humanists are Satanists. Christians must teach the world unchanged Word of God. ( Romans ch.1, John ch.3) All unrepented sins are hell-bound, but homosexuality is especially sinful because it is being forced for endorsement instead of being condemned by the society. Gays need the truth from the Christians for salvation, not this kind of destructive false teachings. Endorsing a sin leads to another, more serious disobedience to God. Those who endorse homosexuality are practically saying that sin does not exist at all. True Christians do not define sins against the Word of God but accept God’s definitions and categories. Sodomic culture makes global children become immoral and is totally harmful, even by pagan parents’ viewpoint. Christians must not become immoral by upholding immorality. Uphold the Holy Bible.

  • ISA41:10

    Homosexuality is sin. It is deviant, unhealthy and perverted. And if a society will sacrifice women and children, typically the most vulnerable among us, what won’t we sacrifice?

    Infant sacrifice has been a sacrament of the left since Roe v. Wade. Women and children are less vulnerable than infants, so we shouldn’t be surprised it took another 40 years to start sacrificing them. Who do you suppose is next?

  • Amos Moses

    The economy is gasping, the world shudders in violence, invaders heave across our southern border, and despair is etched on the faces of the American people. So, in the final year of his reign, what does our great Prophet of Hope and Change give us?

    Bathroom liberation. Pee free or die! Equality before the commode!

    President Obama and his crew of craven, lawless radicals have trivialized everything that is most sacred and cherished in America. And they have elevated and sanctified all that is trivial and pernicious.

    In Cuba, Mr. Obama takes his foreign policy cues from Jay Z and Beyonce. In Iran, he makes secret dirty deals with the most hateful, murderous totalitarian fiends on the global stage.

    In North Carolina, he has taken a Tempest in a Toilet and turned it into Bedlam in the Bidet.

    ~by Charles Hurt @ Breitbart …………

    • I got a good chuckle out of this reply. Thanks for posting.

  • Sophie Maele

    I listened to a few of Keller’s sermons, but stopped quickly after he started insulting Evangelicals. I guess he thinks we just aren’t as smart as he is. He is an effete elitist who likes to move in the intellectualoid crowd of Manhattan, so this report is no surprise: ” And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold. But he who endures to the end shall be saved.” – Matthew 24:12,13

  • christina

    Christians like to eat their own while Satan keeps expanding his influence.

  • Ukulelemike

    Actually, the Bible does lift homosexuality above, or apart, from some other sins, because it says that it is specifically a symptom of complete rejection of Christ. It is true, some dabble in it, are clearly not ‘gay’ just confused, but those who are deep in the lifestyle are there as an act of judgment for their rebellion. So yes in a sense, being a hardcore homosexual will bring one to hell, because it is part of being in rebellion against God, which is as the sin of witchcraft.

  • Bradley T Odom

    Then he’s not saved, and should be fired, excommunicated and demoted until he repents and converts to the Christian faith! We do not need this in churches, and what he’s “planting” aren’t churches but all inclusive social groups. They call themselves “churches” so they can get rich and file 501c3 tax exemption. We need faithful churches and actual Christians… Not charlatans!!

    • Jonathan

      This employee in the Redeemer office is the fruit of Tim Keller’s ministry. And I can tell you this from personal experience – there are many, many more people just like him at Redeemer.

      • Bradley T Odom

        Then they need to repent and stop trying to infiltrate the church… They won’t win!

  • Max

    If Keller allows people like this to remain on staff, then yes, Keller himself condones homosexuality, so he is no Christian.

  • Trevor Wade

    These celebrity pastors and their image they want to portray.

  • BernieFlatters

    It would be much better call out the sin more clearly: sodomy.

  • jennylynn

    This guy has invented his own form of God in his mind that suits his desires, ( idolatry) and rejected the true gospel of repentance And he is responsible for much blood on his hands. The apostate church is no true church at all.

    Why do you call Me LORD, LORD and do. Not do what I say. Luke 6:46

    9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, 10 nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.
    1 Corinthians 6:9-11

  • Stephen Goldsworth

    The presbytery needs to come down on this. Hard.

  • Rick

    If firmly believe God’s word that says homosexuality is a sin. But Keller seems to be saying that it isn’t the act itself that condemns these people, it’s a breaking of God’s moral law. They stand condemned because they’ve rejected God’s propitiation for sin….Jesus Christ. Their lives are a reflection of their sinful hearts, as is every liar, adulterer, idolator, thief, murderer and so on. The church needs to make sure we don’t so caught up in the sin and forget that God does not desire that they should perish but would come to repentance. (2 Peter 3:9)”
    Our réponse should always be love, not condemnation.

  • Harry Oh!

    One by one, organized Christianity and their leaders are being exposed for the false doctrines they preach. The wheat is truly being separated from the tares.

  • Horatio Socks

    Actually, Ryan is incorrect. There are not multi-sex rooms at stores. If I go to JC Penny, or even Walmart, there are stalls for men and women in the men and women’s areas.

    These are lies either from the pit of hell, or from extremely ignorant people calling themselves Christians.

  • Saab340A

    “Who said you had to ‘express your views’ to someone who is gay in the first place? Jesus? Nope. The gay person? Nope. Do you think they’ll listen? Nope. Why should they?” he later contended.

    Well, I’m not really the one who brought it up in the first place. It is the homosexual agenda that is constantly in MY face, not the other way around. In truth, it is not any of our opinions that matter. God will have the last word, and I don’t believe he will contradict himself.