‘Bad Beer or No Beer?’ R.C. Sproul, Jr., Who Advocated ‘Drinking Well,’ Arrested for Felony DUI

Prominent Reformed theologian, author, speaker and former Presbyterian elder Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr., who once stated that one of his “favorite intellectual debates” is “[i]s bad beer better than no beer?” has resigned from his positions at his father’s Ligonier Ministries and Reformation Bible College a week after being arrested on felony DUI charges.

Ligonier Ministries released a statement about Sproul’s resignation on Monday, but only marked the departure as being for “personal reasons.”

“Last Friday, the board of directors of Ligonier Ministries and Reformation Bible College received and affirmed the resignation of Dr. R.C. Sproul Jr. He is stepping away from his duties at the ministry and the college for personal reasons,” it wrote. “This was communicated by phone to his father, Dr. R.C. Sproul, the founder of Ligonier Ministries and chancellor of Reformation Bible College, and it was later communicated in writing to the entire board of directors of Ligonier Ministries.”

The statement added that the ministry supports the Sproul family and is thankful for Sproul’s work at Ligonier Ministries and Reformation Bible College in Sanford, Florida. He had served as the rector of theology and professor of apologetics at Reformation Bible College and also wrote on biblical topics for his father’s ministry.

“We believe he will be well cared for by his church during this time of transition, and we pray for him in his future endeavors,” Ligonier said.

However, as Christian Post reports, and as confirmed by Christian News Network, Sproul was was arrested in Indiana on Nov. 29 and charged with four DUI accounts, including felony charges for being under the influence with a minor in the vehicle, and at twice the legal limit.

The case summary of “State of Indiana v. Robert C Sproul” in Allen Superior Court outlines that Sproul has been charged with “operating a vehicle while intoxicated with a passenger under 18,” and placing a “dependent in a situation that endangers the dependent,” as well as “operating a vehicle while intoxicated” and “operating a vehicle with an alcohol concentration equivalent to .15 or more.”

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He posted $5,000 bond and is free via a “monitored conditional release.”

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Sproul, author of books such as “The Call to Wonder: Loving God Like a Child” and “Tearing Down Strongholds And Defending the Truth,” has deactivated his social media pages and his blog site.

He had been suspended from Ligonier Ministries last year after advising the board that he had visited the adultery site Ashley Madison during a “moment of weakness, pain, and from an unhealthy curiosity,” but did not sign up for an account or use its services. Sproul’s wife Denise passed away in 2011 following a battle with cancer. His suspension ended this past July, and he remarried last month.

Sproul had written about his beliefs regarding alcohol on a number of occasions, including in 2003, when he wrote the forward to the book “Drinking With Calvin and Luther: A History of Alcohol in the Church,” stating, “[I]t’s not enough that we should drink, but that we ought to drink well.”

In 2005, he also stated in a blog post, “Would you please, so as not to cause me to stumble, stop suggesting that it is wrong to drink alcohol in moderation, or that drinking alcohol in moderation somehow is a failure to love my brothers?”

His “Basement Tapes” collection included discussions on alcohol and tobacco, and in a section on his Highlands Study Center site, Sproul recounted of his college years, “I learned that perhaps the greatest sport a jock might aspire to was chugging beer. And I learned that I was pretty good at it.”

In recent times, Sproul had been a repeated guest on the Reformed Pubcast, a broadcast that focuses on Reformed theology and beer. The podcast, which invites listeners to “[g]rab a brew and pull up a stool,” has been controversial to some over its flaunting of a perceived Christian liberty, such as Adam Powers wrote on his blog “The Publicans.”

“The Pubcast’s emphasis on beer is too much for my liking. I don’t think it takes the consequences of alcohol seriously, or the struggle certain people have with it. It borders on sin, and has crossed the line at times by celebrating/flaunting our Christian liberty before God and others,” he wrote.

The Reformed Pubcast conducted a podcast live at Ligonier Ministries in February of this year.

Sproul also has been a guest on the Arizona-based Apologia Radio, and spoke at Apologia in July following controversy over the group’s beer flight sampler at a local pub that served as a fundraiser for a church plant in Hawaii.

While there has been much discussion over the subject of Christianity and alcohol throughout Church history, Scripture admonishes in 1 Corinthians 6:9 that unrepentant “drunkards … shall not inherit the kingdom of God.” Proverbs 20:1 also teaches, “Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging, and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.”

Sproul has a hearing scheduled in February and faces possible fines or jail time.

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  • storie

    Boy……King David would have NEVER made it in our American Christian culture today!

    • Valerie

      I know totally. Instead he was TOTALLY called out and humiliated by that judgmental prophet Nathan. He was such a buzz kill. Why could he just give David a break with all his sin??

      • Oboehner

        Right, it’s not like he sent a guy to his death so he could have the guy’s wife or anything.

        • michael louwe

          What about Paul or Saul of Tarsus, who had murdered many Christians by arresting n sending them to the Roman rulers to be crucified.?
          ……. Didn’t God/Jesus punished/cursed Paul for that.?(ACTS.9:15-16, cf; 1COR.5:5) How did Paul die.?
          ……. King David was also cursed by God for the murder of Uriah, ie his sons n daughters suffered greatly for his sins/evil-deeds, as per EXO.20:5, n King David had to witness it. Imagine seeing yr sons n daughters dying for yr sins.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Apostle Paul repented of such sins. He sent NO ONE to Roman rulers to be crucified. Every Apostle got martyred for Jesus, not just him. Apostle Paul just had the most severe hardships of all, but it’s not karma( karma does not exist) but God’s sovereignty and providence. Wayward sons and daughters are a typical of royal or rich homes throughout the world, not just for King David. In King David’s case, Solomon continued the dynasty as prophesied and David’s another son Nathan became the ancestor of Virgin Mary.

          • michael louwe

            ACTS.8: = 3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering every house, and dragging off men and women, committing them to prison.
            ACTS.9: = 1 Then Saul, still breathing threats and murder against the disciples of the Lord, went to the high priest 2 and
            asked letters from him to the synagogues of Damascus, so that if he
            found any who were of the Way, whether men or women, he might bring them bound to Jerusalem. …….
            … 13 Then Ananias answered, “Lord, I have heard from many about this man, how much harm he has done to Your saints in Jerusalem. 14 And here he has authority from the chief priests to bind all who call on Your name.”

            ACTS.22: = Then he said: 3 “I am indeed a Jew, born in Tarsus of Cilicia, but brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, taught according to the strictness of our fathers’ law, and was zealous toward God as you all are today. 4 I persecuted this Way to the death, binding and delivering into prisons both men and women, 5 as also the high priest bears me witness, and all the council of the elders, from whom I also received letters to the brethren, and went to Damascus to bring in chains even those who were there to Jerusalem to be punished.

            ACTS.26: = 9 “Indeed, I myself thought I must do many things contrary to the name of Jesus of Nazareth. 10 This I also did in Jerusalem, and many of the saints I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I cast my vote against them. 11 And I punished them often in every synagogue and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly enraged against them, I persecuted them even to foreign cities.

            Paul Recounts His Conversion

            12 “While thus occupied, as I journeyed to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, …….

            1TIM.1: = 15 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Not to crucifixion, though.

          • michael louwe

            Fyi, at the time of Jesus Christ, the Jews n Israel/Judah were under Roman rule, ie only the Roman authorities could sentence convicted Jews to death, eg LUKE.24:39-43. The Jewish Sanhedrin Council or rulers had no authority to sentence convicted Jewish criminals to death, eg Jewish Christian “heretics”. They could only arrest Jewish n Jewish Christian suspects n hand them over to the Roman authorities for further action.
            ……. Many Jewish Christian “heretics” who were arrested by Saul/Paul were eventually sentenced to death by the Roman authorities. The Roman’s common mode of execution for convicted criminals was crucifixion = served as a deterrent.
            ……. Today, there r various mode of execution of convicted criminals by national govts, eg hanging(Singapore), firing squad(= China), lethal injection(= USA), stoning n beheading(Saudi Arabia), etc. At one time, the French govt used the guillotine.
            If not by crucifixion, how were the innocent Jewish Christian victims of Saul/Paul put to death/executed.?

          • Amos Moses

            Grace …. Paul was guilty of persecuting many early christians and sending them to their deaths ….. but yes he did repent and was given grace through that …..

      • Grace Kim Kwon

        King David is better than anyone living today. He’d never watch in silence the infanticide(abortion) and Western Sodom’s reign on children. Today’s men let pervs come into women’s washroom to harm women and children freely; they should just shut up about King David forever. King David is better than any of you morally.

        • Valerie

          I was using sarcasm. And no he was no better. Nor worse. He simply had a repentant heart, that bent towards God. I pray for that type of a heart. But you can’t be serious that we can’t discuss his sins….right? Because you know who openly discussed Davids many sins? The Lord.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            I see. Yes, King David obtained God’s mercy because of his repentance. What I mean is this: People often talk about King David as a criminal. But what about us, modern people? We are watching the Holocaust of babies in silence, doing nothing about it. Today, men sleep around with women and desert them and try to kill the baby if notified of pregnancy. King David at least took care of the woman he violated and tried to save the life of the “unwanted” baby. Modern men use politics( such as David’s letter to his general to put Uriah in the deadly position) in dealing with fellow men knowing it’ll destroy them. King David IS better than any modern men. Today’s men should be truly ashamed of their watching the Holocaust doing nothing and also sleeping around and destroying other people’s lives even before they remember King David negatively. Everyone needs repentance.

      • storie

        You misunderstood me. Being called out for unrepentant sin is absolutely Biblical. But, we are , as scripture points out, to restore the man in a spirit of meekness. Not throw him under the bus because of legalistic ideas that are not scriptural.

    • Amos Moses

      Yeah … he would ….. for very certain reasons outlined in scripture …… which also cover Mr. Sproul Jrs sins ….. but he is not the future forefather of Christ ….. and David repented for his offenses to God ….. and Mr Sproul needs to do likewise ……..

      • storie

        How do we know that he hasn’t repented?

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          well it has been a year since that comment was made …. at the time of this story and his DUI arrest …. with children in the car as i recall …. it seems not …. and repentant on what level ….. repenting of being caught ….. or repenting for his offence to God ….

          • storie

            I guess it has been a while so I guess I’ll end the discussion with this: Repentance to God. That’s the most important.

    • Joseph

      Nah, that braggart needs to open his eyes and quit quenching the spirit. Totally outside of the word. Just making excuses to allow for the sin he likes. Unfortunately we all do it from time to time. That’s why when we are blinded to it the Lord tells us to admonish our fellow brothers through the word. Unbelievers… judge virtually only about their unbelief in Christ. But brethren… about our sins. So… assuming Mr Sproul is saved… he needs plenty of us saying “dude get outta the bottle. You’re totally wrong and chasing the devil. Not that we don’t love ya, but you’re sinning so obviously we kinda don’t like ya”

  • johndoe

    Poor fellow seems to be going through a rough patch. Hope he pulls himself together.

  • Danny Cleave

    That verse from 1 Corinthians 6 should read “shall NOT inherit the Kingdom of God”

  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Christians, especially the ministers, should not drink alcohol at all, as drinking brings all kinds of worldliness and leads to all kinds of sins. Alcohol-drinking is the #1 destroyer substance of individual life and and family life in the world. The Word of God prohibits drunkenness, and abstinence is the only way. In Jesus’ era, there were only water and wine and fruits. Today, we enjoy zillions of juice and other kind of non-addictive non-toxic drinks that can replace wine. If someone insists the Jesus’ drinking of wine, he should go for the Jewish diet entirely and then say something. No pick-and-choose in following Jesus.

  • michael louwe

    LEV.10:9 = Do not drink wine or intoxicating drink.
    It is best for Jews n Christians to avoid alcohol, which is a psychotropic drug.

    People can become addicted to alcohol = alcoholics. Those who were alcoholics b4 they came to Christ can remain as alcoholics, as per ACTS.15:24-29, bc it would be a burden for them to quit alcohol, esp cold turkey, eg Delirium Tremens or terrible withdrawal symptoms. Similarly for other substance abuse addicts who become Christians, eg drug addicts. Most addicts die young n in poverty bc these addictive substances r quite expensive n unhealthy.(cf; 1COR.5:5)
    ……. Also, some children may be born to alcoholics = born with “damaged or chemically-altered” brains, eg anxiety/panic disorder, similar to crack-babies n meth-babies. They too can remain as alcoholics if they r Christians.

    This is also why newly-converted Gentile Christian men do not hv to be circumcised or eat kosher foods, ie they can remain as they are.

  • He is going through far more than a “rough patch” He dwells in unrepentant sin.

  • Josh

    The author of this article, as well as some of the commenters here, come off as self-righteous. How quick the evangelicals are to condemn their own. Christ did not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

    • Amos Moses

      and so we call him to repent ……….

    • Emmanuel

      Leaders are held to another standard per the Bible. How did Jesus treat the pharisees and his own disciples?

    • TheBottomline4This

      Pointing out wrong (sin) is not self righteous.

  • jamesrwilliams

    The comments that follow stories like R.C. Jr.’s report are so predictable. Every time a leader falls from Grace by the use of alcohol it’s always the same old comments, the same old arguments. Please, peruse further and you’ll get a prime example.

  • Emmanuel

    Dr. Spouls, prayers for your recovery and restoration. You need to sit and talk with Jesus, gain self control and get right with self, family, God and with that child you endangered. Jesus can and will heal and restore.

  • TheBottomline4This

    What is it with all of these “men of God” and their issues ruining their testimonies, families lives and ministry??? Doug Phillips, Josh Duggar, RC Jr, etc.
    None is perfect, but if you are truly leaning on the Lord, He is able!!!
    Adults like to play with the alcohol and then when an issue arises from it justify their use of it. There have been rumors for years about R.C. Jr’s use of alcohol. Sad he is allowing it to ruin any testimony he has left.

    • Emmanuel

      The question should be: were they ever men of God?

      • TheBottomline4This

        Only God truly knows that. We can only go by their fruit.

        • Emmanuel

          That fig tree had green leafs but no fruit.

          • Chris Bodan

            I’m amazed that you have exhaustive knowledge of his life and works, so that you can make such a judgement.

          • TheBottomline4This

            His bad fruit allows for us to discern whether he is one to listen to or mark and avoid on spiritual matters. Seems he is the latter.

          • Emmanuel

            Yup, it’s called standards. If he does not meet the biblical standard then he needs to be called out on it. It’s also biblical. Stunning that you don’t know that.

          • TheBottomline4This

            He may be one of those “never judge” people.

          • Emmanuel

            He attends one of those “nothing is a sin” church.

    • jael2

      There seems to be a common thread with these men. First, they have been very prideful individuals. Secondly, by their “fruit” they haven’t exhibited the fear of God. I truly hope they repent.
      In the meantime, those who follow such men and their teachings; this is a wake up call for you. Do not be deceived.
      In fear and trembling, may we all be reminded from Holy Scripture: “without holiness, no one will see the Lord”.

  • bulldogmom

    R.C. Sproul, Jr., is nothing more than a spoiled brat who has hidden behind his Daddy’s pulpit all his life. And has been held up as some kind of evangelical theologian. I doubt seriously that he ever wrote his PhD dissertation, his daddy or someone else wrote it or he was “given” one in order to elevate him to the positions that were also handed to him. A few years ago, he was senior pastor at a church in Florida, another job he had no qualifications for, and he stole much money from that church and had to resign in disgrace. Then, DADDY set him up again in these seminary positions, and DADDY and others in the Reformed church gave him the spotlight on many occaisons to pretend to be an evangelical minister/ speaker, and make the public think he was a true man of God, which he has NEVER been. He’s a fat, boviated drunk, and a sexual predator. It has now caught up with him, as it will with others in his realm who are living the same way, and being covered by the famous and powerful men who steer the Reformed and Evangeiical tides in this country. Billy Graham’s grandson was another, yet not nearly as big of a bratty rogue as Junior Sproul.

    • TheBottomline4This

      I feel bad for RC Jr’s kids. They are not their Dad and the Mom died a few years ago. Just sad he has been this way for many years.

      • bulldogmom

        I didn’t know anything about RC Jr’s immediate family. It’s good to know they aren’t like HIM. What disgusts me is that Ligonier Ministries, John MacArthur’s Shepherd’s Conferences, and even the wonderful Sinclair Ferguson, and all the Reformed groups have held Junior so highly, allowed him to participate in these teaching seminars and conferences, all the time knowing that he’s a total rascal and really not a Christian. I am wondering who the “minor” was in the car with him??? I live in Indianapolis, so I’m going to follow this story, since it apparently took place near Ft. Wayne (Allen County). Thanks.

        • TheBottomline4This

          People have their authors/teachers they follow and it’s hard for them to let them go. Even harder for them to not elevate them to a position they don’t deserve.

          • bulldogmom

            You know, another thing that disgusts me about RC, Jr. is all the time he spent on discussing beer, at least according to this article, he could have been talking about the Lord, salvation, redemption, etc. Not preaching, but just discussing….instead he was doing beer. Just terrible, IMHO.

          • TheBottomline4This

            So true. I don’t think alcohol is for Christians to partake in. I say this as someone who used to drink before I was saved. It didn’t serve a purpose for me then, other than to feed my flesh and seem “cool” to those I was around. If someone has an occasional alcoholic drink that is more rare than frequent, that is fine I guess, but for Christians who partake more often, I don’t think that’s the best choice. We need to ask ourselves, what is the point in consuming alcohol. Does it help or hinder our testimony.

          • bulldogmom

            Good for you for not drinking any longer. Stay true to Christ. Thanks!

          • TheBottomline4This

            Well I don’t think we should drink, but then judge him if he does. Now the drinking and then driving no one should ever do, so that we can judge even if we choose to drink. Drinking alcohol and driving should never mix!!!

    • Michele Perez

      Glad you’ve never sinned. Boy, wouldn’t it be a tragedy if you did and it was put public.

      • TheBottomline4This

        Of course everyone sins. Those who are public, especially Bible teachers are under a greater watch and those who listen to them must judge what they say, do and live and see if it lines up with what the Bible teaches. Then we are to judge (discern) whether they are to be marked and avoided when it comes to spiritual matters.
        “Let not many of you become teachers, my brethren, knowing that as such we will incur a stricter judgment.” James 3:1

    • Carverelle

      Bulldogmom, R.C. Sproul Jr. never received a PhD. He has an DMin which is a far cry from the scholastic demands of receiving a PhD. Yes, it’s quite pretentious of a DMin to call himself “Dr.”

      Many including myself would be interested to hear more of the church and the money stolen from that church that Sproul is alleged to have been responsible for. Was that prior to his having gone to Ascension Presbyterian Church?

      • GNL

        I don’t know which church Bulldogmom is referring to but I know that R.C. Sproul Jr. has ripped off several churches and a number of ministries. One of his favorite ploys is double and triple billing his travel expenses. When he was pastor at St. Peter Presbyterian he’d use his Highlands Ministries Amex card to pay for travel expenses, not to mention many things that weren’t legitimate ministry expenses at all. Highlands Ministries would pay the tab, which he then had St. Peter reimburse, without the knowledge or consent of his church members. He used St. Peter as his personal piggy bank. Then he’d bill the church or ministry that had him speak and pocket the money, even though he’d already been reimbursed. If two or more ministries were involved in sponsoring a conference he’d bill them both. He did this many times and defrauded many of his ministry “friends.’ He even ripped off his own father’s Ligonier Ministries in this way many times. He’s pocketed tens of thousands of dollars with this scam.

        • Carverelle

          Thanks GNL. I’m not surprised. If memory serves me correctly one of the reasons he was defrocked in 2006 was for tax fraud. R.C. Sproul Jr’s moral integrity seems much in doubt, although there seems to be little doubt about his greed for material gain. No doubt that’s been much influenced by living in the shadow of his father and having to compete with his father’s lavish lifestyle. But at least with Sproul Sr. he actually worked hard for his wealth and actually earned it (his book royalties have been substantial). Sproul Jr. however seems seriously lacking in his work ethic. So why not just steal it where he can?

      • bulldogmom

        You are correct about the DMin. My assertion was that Junior probably never did any of his “homework.” If you know what I mean; Daddy wrote his theses, etc. I understand he has asked for a jury trial in his defense on the Indiana charges. Don’t know what he is thinking, but we can expect him to put on a blabbering show. My heart aches for the cause of Christ in all this; those who refuse to believe, or may want to and have difficulty accepting the Gospel, can point to this Bozo and his Daddy’s ministries, and say “See, I told you these people are not for real, they are hypocrites.” What damage BOTH Sprouls have done.

        • Carverelle

          I agree with your assessment of R.C. Sproul Jr going before a jury. A blabbering show, indeed. Or more accurately a blubbering show. He’ll play up the loss of his wife and daughter as though that were the cause of a one-time-only drinking binge that resulted in his arrest. He’ll hope against hope that no evidence and testimony will be presented by the prosecution that he’s abused alcohol and endangered the public for many years prior to the loss of his wife and daughter. It’ll be a tough sell, but R.C. Jr. is quite the showman. He’s successfully conned many thousands of Christians for many years. So if anyone can con a jury he can, especially with the aid of his high-dollar drunk driving attorney.

          Please tell us more about the situation where you say that R.C. Sproul Jr. stole money from a church.

  • NCOriolesFan

    I don’t see anything wrong with Christians drinking during a meal. It’s their choice but I do remind them to be careful driving home. I drink too but at home. Beer on occasion like in front on the TV with a football game on and a steak. I still have cans of Bud Light in my refrig.

  • I’d say he did not take the imperative in Proverbs against bubbly alcoholic drink as a command: “Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his colour in the cup, when it moveth itself aright.”

  • Scott Cottrill

    Whenever a popular or famous Christian is in the news, people feel bound to weigh in on the subject, doing so oftentimes without any clear understanding of what the facts are, much less the background. They take a story and give more credibility to it than the person who is at the center of the controversy, thereby believing the worst about the person and believing absolutely everything that the story says.

    As a friend of R.C., I can say definitively that he is a
    Christian. He was very instrumental in
    discipling me and my family. Is he perfect? No, but then again neither are any
    of us. Is he an alcoholic or a drunkard?
    Some would like to think so, and they use passages such as “No drunkard shall
    enter the Kingdom of God” to justify their judgment. And yet, we need to look to the full counsel
    of God before making such a sweeping statement. Scripture certainly tells us
    not to drink to excess. But what does
    that mean? Is any level of intoxication
    a sin? If so, how do you handle Psalm
    104: where it says that among other gifts of the earth, God gave man wine to
    gladden his heart? What does this mean but that some level of intoxication is
    implied? Paul instructs Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach. King Lemuel’s mother tells him that as a
    ruler he should not imbibe but leave it for those who are suffering. It is true
    that the Bible instructs us not to over indulge, but to use scripture to
    prohibit any alcohol consumption is error. If alcohol is bad, then what is one
    to do with food or sex? We are also
    forbidden to be gluttons and sexual addicts.
    The argument that in this day we don’t need alcohol so no devout
    Christian or Jew should partake is as ludicrous as to say that since sex and
    food are abused, we should not participate in those either. Such an argument is extra biblical and
    therefore is sin in itself. Is anyone
    looking to fat people in their church and saying that they aren’t Christians
    because they must be gluttons? The Bible
    encourages feasts even while it discourages gluttony.

    What many well-meaning but uninformed Christians are guilty
    of is confusing pietism with Christianity.
    Pietism in our culture is the result of the Second Great Awakening and
    the temperance movement. American
    Christians began defining true Christianity by legalistic standards rather than
    the five solas of the Reformation. Hence
    “demon alcohol” became synonymous with sin and anyone who consumed alcohol
    could not possibly be a real Christian, in their thinking.

    Another thing that the naysayers are missing is R.C.’s style
    of writing and speaking is given to hyperbole, irony and satire. To say that we need to learn how to drink
    well is not an encouragement to become drunkards but it is a poke at the
    pietists who would demonize all alcohol, tobacco or rich food. I have always wondered why it is that the
    “food offered to idols and the weaker brethren” argument always seems to be
    about offending pietistic Christians who have been in the faith for decades and
    should be beyond being “weaker brethren”.
    Why not just grow up and if you do not wish to partake of alcohol, stop
    flaunting your weakness by prohibiting everyone else? Actually, an argument could be made that the
    new gluten-free movement is becoming the modern equivalent to food offered to
    idols, but that is another subject.

    Regarding the law being broken, one also needs to look at
    that carefully as well. It has been said
    that everyone commits at least 2 felonies per day. That may seem extreme to say but as someone
    in law enforcement, I cannot disagree with it.
    Most of the laws we have are not natural law but man-made laws and many
    are rather arbitrary. Have you ever
    mailed a check to someone, knowing that you did not have sufficient funds in
    the bank at the time the check was written but knowing or at least assuming
    that the funds would be there when the person cashed the check? You have committed a felony. Do you cheat on your income taxes? That could be a felony as well. Drunk driving
    used to be defined as a BAC of .1, but the federal government got into the mix
    and mandated the states to lower the limit to .08, which used to be considered
    impaired driving and a lower standard.
    Should people be allowed to drive under the influence? I don’t think
    it’s a good idea. But the founding fathers never intended the government to
    pass thousands of laws in the hopes of preventing bad things from happening to
    good people. If he caused an accident
    while intoxicated, that would be a more appropriate use of the law. I have no
    doubt that the child(ren) in the car were his own. The article does not identify them but it
    certainly leaves open the speculation that the children were not his own. I have not seen the police report and at the
    time of the writing, I do not believe the author of the article had either. The
    result is that all the speculation makes Dr. Sproul sound like a ghoul,
    something he is not.

    One last point I would like to make is the fact that modern
    prosecution has adopted a philosophy of charging a person with as many
    different offenses as possible, i.e. DUI, DUI Child Endangerment, multiple
    counts of each. In sports this would be
    called piling on. The purpose is to scare the offender into accepting a plea
    instead of taking it to Court. The ploy is so successful that in some
    jurisdictions, jury trials are almost unheard of. Furthermore in some
    jurisdictions, the district attorney’s office is actually compensated by the
    state for every felony conviction they score, not on the number of offenders
    they prosecute.

    Some will think I am excusing drunk driving. I am not. I
    just want to put it in context. Some so-called Christians have already made
    extremely judgmental comments about Dr. Sproul and for the most part are speaking
    out of ignorance. Jesus said it best
    when he told the Pharisees to let him without sin cast the first stone.

    • Carverelle

      Scott, you’ve exercised poor judgment in picking your friends.
      Considering how much subterfuge and effort you’ve engaged in justifying
      the drunkard R.C. Sproul Jr. it makes perfect sense that he was
      “instrumental in discipling” you. Follow Christ, not unrepentant

      • Scott Cottrill

        Dear Carverelle,
        Thanks for your efforts at setting me straight, but I am a little confused as to your motivation in confronting me now, nearly 3 months after this was “news”. What you confuse as justification for drunkeness, is really an attempt to be fair. The biggest problem with the blogoshere is that people who really know nothing about a situation decide that weighing in is not only their right but their duty, even when they know nothing about the situation. Much of the story referenced the problems R.C. and St. Peter church experienced back in 2006. The blog attacks then were initiated by primarily two people, one of whom R.C. had called out for his blatant racism and the other, a man who had problems of his own, not the least of which included his own love for alcoholic beverages. But the story got traction and is now being used to fuel the current story, or at least the one that is now 3 months old. I could just as easily print that Carverelle is a suspected child molester, offering no proof, or dubious proof at best, and allow it to circulate on the internet. At least in a court of law, witnesses are questioned and qualified, allowing the jury to judge their credibility, but on the internet no such credibility is offered, just a piling on of opinions taken as facts. People who have an axe to grind attack not only R.C. but his father and the entire Ligonier ministry. People here have called for R.C.’s repentance, which of course includes public confession. After Ashley Madison he did confess, but the same people who call for his repentance minimize his confession as damage control or insincere. You can’t have it both ways. Jesus said it best when he told the crowd of Pharisees, “Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.” Are any of us without sin? [silence] I didn’t think so.

        • Carverelle

          My original accusation that you’re engaging in subterfuge is only reinforced now by your reply. The article here never even mentioned anything from the “blogosphere” as
          you appear to be so defensive about. The author only quotes from R.C.
          Sproul Jr.’s own posts, publications and public comments. You’d do well to respond to the article alone rather than going off on weird tangents.

          It’s odd to hear your objection to my responding to your comment only 3 months after the fact while you at the same time delve into matters a decade old. It’s not just a little late to be putting our such spin, the fact of the matter is that no one cares about your backstory and weak excuses for justifying the poor victim Sproul. We’re called as believers to defend the gospel of Jesus Christ, not unrepentant drunkards.