Tennessee Police Department to Relocate Scripture Plaque Following Complaint From Activist Group

KNOXVILLE, Tenn. — A police department in Tennessee has decided to relocate a Scripture plaque that has long been displayed on its walls following receipt of a complaint from a prominent atheist activist organization.

Knoxville Police Chief David Rausch explained during a news conference on Wednesday that the plaque, which quotes from Romans 8:31, will be moved from near the employee deli to a soon-coming Hall of Inspiration inside the the Safety Building.

“What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, then who can be against us?” it reads.

Rausch had received an email from the Wisconsin-based Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF), which asserted that the plaque was in violation of the U.S. Constitution. The group threatened a lawsuit if the display was not removed.

“Please note that the Knoxville Police Department is a government entity and as such should be devoid of religious promotion of any kind,” the correspondence read. “Having a Bible verse promotes one particular religion and in so doing is discriminatory toward those of other religions or no religion.”

“Please see that the verse is removed so that all who enter your police station may feel equally treated,” it said. “Failure to have the verse removed may expose the KPD and/or the City of Knoxville to expensive litigation that cannot be won.”

Mayor Madeline Rogero, who identifies as a Christian, advised during Wednesday’s press conference that officials did indeed consult with Knoxville law director Charles Swanson and concluded that it was in the best interest of the city not to spend taxpayer money defending the plaque.

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“As a person of faith, I understand and respect the passion that people feel on this issue,” Rogero also said. “As a Christian, I’m thankful for fellow Christians who feel their faith so strongly that they want to share it with the world and I respect people of other faiths who feel the same.”

However, she added, “But we do not govern according to the dictates of our faiths. We govern first and foremost under the authority of the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of Tennessee.”

FFRF said that it is pleased with the decision, calling it a “step in the right direction.”

“Can you imagine how Christians would feel if they walked in and, instead of a Christian plaque, there was a plaque of Islam or Judaism? How would they feel?” attorney Aleta Ledendecker told local television station WATE. “Well, this must be a police department that favors one religion over others.”

However, former investigator, Don Wiser, told reporters that when a nation turns away from Jesus, wickedness abounds.

“I believe in Jesus, and I believe that when they turn their back on Jesus that we’re going to be in bad shape,” Wiser said. “I think that, as wicked as our people are getting, I think that’s the wrong thing to do, to take that off there.”

Rausch said he will be praying for FFRF.

“I pray that their souls will be softened by the love of God, and they understand that they can have us remove words but they cannot remove our faith and what is in our hearts,” he wrote in an email obtained by the Knoxville News Sentinel.

An online petition has already been circulated in an effort to keep the plaque.


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  • Michael C

    Honestly, who cares? Can police officers and citizens of Knoxville no longer practice their personal faiths without this sign? Was this bible quote anything more that a successory, anyway?

    Do Christians need to hang signs about Christianity in public buildings as a matter of the practice of their faith? Does their faith really require this?

    • FoJC

      No, but it’s not hurting people who don’t practice it. You’re ambiguous stand is one of a coward.

      • james blue

        Michael is a grown up who can defend himself, but I have to ask— how is his stand cowardly and ambiguous?

        • RWH

          Probably because it is easier to let one’s hate bubble over onto a keyboard than to come up with a reasoned rebuttal.

      • Michael C

        Christians don’t need the government to do their job for them. If Christians want to tell people about Jesus, they can just tell people about Jesus.

        Do you disagree.

        • FoJC

          You neither know Jesus, nor care about what you’re pretending to be defending. You’re a middle-of-the -road charlatan who just wants to argue.

          I don’t agree with you, no. I agree with Jesus. Trying to twist points I’ve made to defend what the Atheists are doing to Constitutionally guaranteed religious freedom in America is apparent.

          The sign wasn’t hurting anyone. It wasn’t a violation of the Constitution. Sadly, it wasn’t believed by those put it up there, since they caved and took it down.

          • Jason Todd

            Indeed. It’s a rather poorly kept secret the Freedom From Religion Foundation hates Christianity.

            The fact they went after a family for having the audacity to have a memorial for a deceased loved one makes that abundantly clear.

          • zampogna

            “It’s a rather poorly kept secret the Freedom From Religion Foundation hates Christianity.”

            Must be VERY poor because I’ve never heard anything like that. Quite frankly it’s a pretty ridiculous statement.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Oh I don’t know, I’ve heard it from Jason about a thousand times. I just haven’t heard anything to back it up.

          • Craig Reynolds

            “Freedom From Religion Foundation hates Christianity.” No. We members hate it when ANY religion gets snaked into our laws and public places.

          • Jason Todd

            Absolute baldfaced lies.

            Be glad the mods won’t let me say how I really feel.

        • Netizen_James

          Well said. One of our Founders said something similar:

          “Reason and experiment have been indulged, and error has fled before them. It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself.” (Thomas Jefferson, from Notes on the State of Virginia, q17)

      • Bob Johnson

        “No, but it’s not hurting people who don’t practice it”

        So you would okay with hang quotations of the Buddha on government buildings?

        • FoJC

          Sure, then someone could stop by daily and hang a piece of paper over them.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            So then you would NOT be okay with that. Got it.

            Now why is your religion special? Why do you think Christians should get special treatment that Buddhists don’t?

          • FoJC

            Throw a sheet over the ten commandment monument. It wouldn’t bother me.

            You’re trying to create an argument. Man, living with you must be stressful.

            Christianity is about Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the Word of God, not a monument outside any building. If you want to go the Hell, be a Buddhist. If you want to go to Hell, be a Satanist. If you want to go to Hell, reject the offer of Salvation through Jesus.

            Monuments don’t establish or change Truth. Jesus is the Truth. He is the Way. He is the Life. He is the Resurrection. Jesus is fullness of the Godhead bodily. He is Savior and LORD. He isn’t changed by the opinions of people or governments.

            Jesus Rocks!

          • Netizen_James

            None of that is even a little bit relevant to the discussion here. Regardless of what anyone believes regarding the alleged divinity of Jesus Christ, the bottom line here is that GOVERNMENT has no authority to promote ANY religious tenets as the ‘officially correct’ ones. If you want a government that promotes and enforces religion, move to Saudi Arabia or Qatar. They’re real big on punishing apostates and ‘sinners’ of various sorts.

          • FoJC

            Hush

          • Craig Reynolds

            How ’bout a copy of the US Constitution being hung over the sign in question?

          • Jason Todd

            Or above it, to clarify the Knoxville PD has a right to free speech which includes religion.

          • james blue

            They do have the right to free speech, but they don’t have a right to have a platform provided for them to speak.

          • MarkSebree

            Actually, the police department does NOT have the right to free speech, and certainly no right to freedom of religion. That is because the police department is a government agency, and thus bound by the constitutional limitations on all government agencies. That includes the fact that they MUST remain neutral with respect to ALL religions.

            However, the police officers when they are out of uniform and not on duty do have the right to freedom of speech and religion, provided that they are only representing themselves and not the department or any other part of the government, nor can they be reasonably perceived as representing the police department or any part of the government.

            The police department, as a government agency, does not have any rights. It has obligations. The police officers, who are actual people, do have rights when they are not representing the police department or the government, and they have obligations and abbreviated rights when they are.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Seriously, this is not that complicated.

          • Netizen_James

            Wrong. Government entities don’t have rights. Only PEOPLE have rights. Government entities have ONLY that authority granted to them by We The People in the Constitution. There is no place in the Constitution which grants any government entity the authority to promote religion. And the Constitution explicitly forbids government entities from promoting religion.

          • Jason Todd

            Dude, please. If you’re going to open your mouth, first know what you’re talking about.

            1) The Constitution doesn’t say that. Men in black robes did. They intentionally applied a contemporary definition to the word “establish.”

            2) According to Webster’s 1840 dictionary, establish means to create, which falls in line with the prior use of the word in the Preamble. You cannot create something that’s been in existence 1700 years before this country.

            Game. Set. Match.

          • Trilemma

            The First Amendment doesn’t use the word, “establish,” it uses the word, “establishment” which, according to Webster’s 1828 dictionary, means, “That which is fixed or established.” That means the government can’t show preference for any religion that has been established.

          • Netizen_James

            Dude – obnoxious arrogance is unbecoming in a Christian. Christians are called to be humble. You should maybe pray on that a bit before getting all huffy and emotionally invested.

            The Constitution DOES say that government is forbidden from promoting religion. That’s what the establishment clause means. And yes, the Supreme Court is the only legal body empowered to interpret the text of the Constitution. If you don’t like it, you’re free to attempt to reverse their decision by getting a new Constitutional Amendment passed granting government the authority to promote religion. Good luck with that. Watch what you wish for. Even if government could promote religion, that doesn’t mean it will necessarily be promoting Christianity, now does it?

            So – by your standards, the government currently *can* promote any religion they want, right? So you would have no standing to protest a change in the US Motto from ‘In God We Trust’ to ‘There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God.’ then right? Because that’s not ‘establishing’ anything, right?

            So you would have no cause to object to Congress changing the Official US Motto from ‘In God We Trust’ to ‘There are no gods, we’re on our own’, because that wouldn’t ‘establish’ anything either, right?

            I would find BOTH of those mottoes exactly as inappropriate and unconstitutional as our current one, and for EXACTLY the same reasons.

            So you would have no standing to protest the use of your tax-dollars to promote reincarnation and polytheism as the ‘officially correct’ theological viewpoints, right? Because that’s not ‘establishing’ anything new, right? Those concepts are older than anything Paul ever wrote.

            No, your interpretation is what is false – perhaps you need to read some real history, rather than the BS history provided by professional liars like David Barton. The establishment clause was created and ratified to assure the States that their existing ‘establishments’ of religion would not be taken over by a federal establishment. Massachusetts had an ‘established religion’ (Congregationalism) until about 1825 or so, depending on how strictly you want to define ‘establishment’. (MA citizens were still forced to pay taxes to support churches until 1833, but WHICH church was up to the municipality.)
            Religious ‘establishment’ was a well-known concept to the founders, and it didn’t mean anything about ‘create’. The arguments surrounding ‘establishment’ and ‘disestablishment’ and ‘anti-disestablishment’ were well trodden by the founders and early Americans. These words had nothing to do with ‘creating’ a new religion as you have fallaciously contended.
            A religion was ‘established’ by a government entity when that government collected money on behalf of the religion, and the clerics of that religion were paid from the government’s treasury. That’s what ‘establishment’ meant to the Founders.

            This is what ‘establishment’ means today – whether you like it or agree with it or not:

            “The ‘establishment of religion’ clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion. ” (330 US 1)

            What part of that do you think is wrong, and why?
            Would you want YOUR taxmoney going to promote the worship of Shiva or Ra or Odin? If not, why do you wish to not treat others as you would want to be treated? Didn’t Jesus tell you to treat others as you would want to be treated?

          • Jason Todd

            Dude, really?

            Massachusetts has nothing to do with any of this.

            You insist the Constitution says government is forbidden from making religious based speech of any kind. You were shown to be in error, and yet you refuse to let it go.

            The United States Constitution does not say that. Period. However, the former Soviet Union did openly promote and endorse such an idea.

            To put it plain, stuff it, commie.

            Blocked.

          • FoJC

            Sure, go for it.

          • Bob Johnson

            For a police station, how about?

            ”Do not dwell in the past, do not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.”
            – Gautama Buddha

    • Jason Todd

      Honestly, who cares?

      Anyone who thinks the Constitution guarantees the right to free speech AND freedom of religion does and should.

      • Michael C

        Government agencies aren’t people. They’re the government.

        …and they don’t have religious beliefs because our great government doesn’t have religious beliefs.

        • Jason Todd

          Relevance?

          • Bob Johnson

            Yes
            (oh ya I forgot, you cannot see this.)

  • FoJC

    Apparently, Atheists can stand against them and they crumble. Do they actually believe the Scripture? They caved to a small group of people falsely applying the Constitution to get their way.

    They should have thrown the letter in the trash. But, it’s apparent that Christianity is merely a religion to them, not the Way to Eternal Life, the offer of Salvation from Eternal Damnation, the Gift of God to reunite humankind to its Creator.

    Follow Jesus, find Truth.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      If they threw the letter out they’d get sued and probably lose.

    • msicairos

      Very well said; Either they believe the Scriptures to be true and God is the same today or you don’t. God/ Jesus Christ above all should be most important and fear no men.

    • Netizen_James

      Nothing ‘false’ about it. The Constitution forbids government entities from promoting or endorsing any one religion as the ‘officially correct’ one.

      “The ‘establishment of religion’ clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the Federal Government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. Neither can force nor influence a person to go to or to remain away from church against his will or force him to profess a belief or disbelief in any religion. No person can be punished for entertaining or professing religious beliefs or disbeliefs, for church attendance or non-attendance. No tax in any amount, large or small, can be levied to support any religious activities or institutions, whatever they may be called, or whatever from they may adopt to teach or practice religion.” (330 US 1)

      Which part of that is wrong? Do you want the government promoting reincarnation or polytheism as the ‘officially correct’ theological perspective? No? So do what Jesus said, and treat others as you would want to be treated. Following Jesus means doing what He told you, not what clueless theocrats like Pat Robertson or Franklin Graham tell you.

      “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men. Truly I tell you, they already have their reward. But when you pray, go into your inner room, shut your door, and pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.” (Matt6:5-6)

      “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’” (Matt7:21-23)

      • FoJC

        Hush again

  • Will Austin

    It’s one of the most beautiful verses in the Bible. Handel set it to music and included it in Messiah. A lot of people have never heard it because the abridged version of Messiah performed around Christmas never includes it.

    • Netizen_James

      Hmm. No I don’t see that one as ‘beautiful’ in the least. Seems kind of arrogant to presume that God is on ‘our side’. I think Lincoln was correct to state that it’s more important that we’re on God’s side.

      As far as Bible verses go, I like this one a lot more than anything in Romans:

      “Defend the weak and the fatherless;
      uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
      Rescue the weak and the needy;
      deliver them from the hand of the wicked.” (Psalm 82:3-4)

      And this one is worthy of being framed and hung on the wall of every church and home:

      ““Is not this the kind of fasting I have chosen:
      to loose the chains of injustice
      and untie the cords of the yoke,
      to set the oppressed free
      and break every yoke?
      Is it not to share your food with the hungry
      and to provide the poor wanderer with shelter—
      when you see the naked, to clothe them,
      and not to turn away from your own flesh and blood?
      Then your light will break forth like the dawn,
      and your healing will quickly appear;
      then your righteousness will go before you,
      and the glory of the Lord will be your rear guard.” (Isaiah 58:6-8)

      • R2D2Censored

        If it seems “arrogant” to you to presume G_D is on your side; then He is NOT and NEVER WILL BE!!

  • bowie1

    How many people go into a police station except for volunteers police checks? Criminals get taken into police stations but even if there is no religious sign they still don’t want to be there. Other than that people phone the police from another location for emergencies or other help and they would never see a sign of any kind.

    • Croquet_Player

      How many people enter the police station is not the point.

  • Guzzman

    These police officers took an oath to uphold the Constitution. That very Constitution mandates government neutrality on religious matters. These officers violate that oath when they post a Bible verse plaque on government property. The city itself, after consulting legal counsel, determined the plaque crossed a “clearly established line” with government promoting a particular religion.

  • msicairos

    Unbelievable; Complete compromise and lack of faith in our living God/Jesus Christ. Bunch of wimps with badges. If your ashamed of Jesus Christ he will be ashamed of you and if your not willing to defend His name; How can he defend you?

    • Ambulance Chaser

      What would you like them to do instead?

      • msicairos

        Simple; Don’t take it down and pray. Help will be on the way via attorney’s or whatever other means. Fight it all the way to the Supreme Court, if necessary. But don’t compromise!

        • Bob Johnson

          So the good citizens of Knoxville should pickup a multi-million dollar price tag to be told once again that the government cannot support any religion.

          • msicairos

            If they don’t believe the Scriptures; Stop going to church and stop playing religion and don’t post any Bible verses. Jesus said; either your with me or against me. If it’s about money, then continue to compromise and put away your Bibles.

          • Michael C

            Jesus said; either your with me or against me.

            Actually, I’m pretty sure Jesus knew how to use a contraction. I mean, he is God and all.

            I can’t seem to find the bible verse, however, that requires Christians to use the government to promote their religion.

          • Jason Todd

            Using sarcasm to cover your ignorance is a bad move.

          • Michael C

            Is a Christian “against God” if they don’t use the government to promote Christianity?

            Is a Christian only considered “for God” if they use the government to promote Christianity?

            Can a Christian not be “for God” without using the government to promote Christianity?

          • Jason Todd

            Is your ignorance of the First Amendment intentional or sincere?

          • Bob Johnson

            What part of the First Amendment directs the state to spend funds defending religious beliefs?

          • msicairos

            With all do respect; Religion today is a man made organization, a system of bondage of do’s and don’t’s, laws regulations and rules. Keep you coming back and keeping the church in business. An entertainment facility.

          • Bob Johnson

            Not all of the good tax paying folks in Knoxville are Christians.

          • msicairos

            Oh well; They should of thought about that when they put it up. The real problem is that people nowadays don’t believe or fear God anymore; They have it to good an don’t have a need for God/Jesus anymore; Technology, comfort, wealth and entertainment have push God/Jesus out of their lives. But death is certain for everyone, then Judgment and on to eternal life in hell or heaven.

          • Netizen_James

            So then you think that George Washington and John Adams and all them were heretical blasphemers for rejecting the God-given authority of King George III, as per Romans13:1-6? Really?

        • Jason Todd

          Don’t listen to anything Ambulance Chaser tells you: The guy seriously believes the Constitution only says what judges say it does.

          • zampogna

            Yeah, don’t believe Ambulance Chaser. What would an actual lawyer know about the law?

          • Bob Johnson

            Voting up your own comments —-
            I know – you cannot see this message.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Having an attorney doesn’t automatically mean you’re going to win and there’s no guarantee that the Supreme Court will hear your case, let alone overturn nearly a hundred years of precedent.

          What you’re suggesting is tantamount to a legal version of the Boxer Rebellion.

    • LinCA

      Unbelievable;

      Believe it. It was the right decision.

      Complete compromise and lack of faith in our living God/Jesus Christ.

      Personal beliefs are utterly irrelevant here. The chief can believe whatever he wants; it makes no difference with regard the US Constitution.

      As a representative of the government, he can’t legally promote one religion over any other, or religion over none.

      Bunch of wimps with badges.

      Actually, standing up for the rights of minorities and face the wrath of the majority takes guts.

      If your ashamed of Jesus Christ he will be ashamed of you and if your not willing to defend His name; How can he defend you?

      *You’re.

      What you believe is completely irrelevant. Your religion doesn’t supersede the constitutional rights of others.

  • Jason Todd

    “Please see that the verse is removed so that all who enter your police station may feel equally treated,” it said. “Failure to have the verse removed may expose the KPD and/or the City of Knoxville to expensive litigation that cannot be won.”

    When I saw this, I about blew a gasket. This is the kind of bovine feces you’d see from the neighborhood bully.

    My response would have consisted of exactly two words:

    “Bleep you.”

    • GregorHodge

      And you’d have gone to jail. Keep your religion off of public property.

      • Jason Todd

        ROTFL!!!

        What a lame troll!

        • GregorHodge

          It wasn’t a request. It was an order. Keep your religion off public property or you’re going to keep reading stories like the one you’re commenting in, and you’re going to be the subject of one of them. Or are you TRYING to be the next Kim Davis?

        • GregorHodge

          And since the next thing you’re going to tell me is that I’m blocked, fuck off and die.

          • Jason Todd

            No. I am first going to flag this post for profanity.

            Then I’m going to block you.

          • GregorHodge

            Who gives a shit? I can always come back. And call you out for your Christofascism all over again.

        • Mr Cleats

          Don’t waste your time on this sort.
          It’s got a brand new account. It’s someone who got banned, then slithered back in again.
          If you ignore them, they move on.

          • zampogna

            You don’t actually know that. Given Mr. Todd’s nasty habit of blocking everyone who tries to have a conversation with him, it could be anyone frustrated enough to come back with a new account to tell him off for his cowardice.

    • Ambulance Chaser

      So you’re asserting that the city would win a lawsuit over this issue? On what evidence do you base this belief?

    • Trilemma

      Would Jesus want you to say, “Bleep you?” Jesus never said, “Bleep you,” to anyone.

      • Netizen_James

        I seem to recall a story about an incident in the temple square involving money-changers and other greedy capitalists being essentially told ‘bleep you’ by Jesus and His posse…

        And of course, this is what any REAL Christian would say to the likes of Joel Osteen and Creflo Dollar and anyone else spreading the anti-Christian notion that poverty is caused by lack of faith – aka the ‘prosperity gospel’. An evil devil-sent heresy.

        “and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.” (Matt 24:11)

        • Trilemma

          Perhaps you’re using a different Bible than me, but I don’t see Jesus using any profanity during that incident.

          • Netizen_James

            So whipping them and overturning their tables was just being ‘nice’? Or did you miss the word ‘essentially’ in my post? And really – were you there? I wasn’t. How would you know if Jesus HAD used Aramaic profanity while whipping and beating the moneychangers in the Temple courtyard? Do you really think the apostles would have seen fit to repeat that in the oral histories that the Gospel texts are allegedly based on? (I doubt that either of us can be sure that there were Aramaic words that could even *counted* as ‘profanity’!)

          • Trilemma

            Sure, we can speculate about what Jesus may have done that’s not recorded in the Bible. But the Bible does not record Jesus using profanity or essentially using profanity with euphemisms. Rebuking someone isn’t necessarily essentially the same as saying, “Bleep you.” The Bible says Jesus used a whip to drive out the sheep and the cattle. It doesn’t say he whipped or beat anyone. If he had been that violent, the Roman solders would have arrested him.

    • LinCA

      This is the kind of bovine feces you’d see from the neighborhood bully.

      Right, because in a country where 75% identifies as Christian, the 5% that stand up for the rights of everyone are the bullies.

      It is the Christian majority that tramples on the constitutional rights of everyone else. It’s exactly these minorities that the constitution was designed to protect.

      My response would have consisted of exactly two words:

      “Bleep you.”

      Your disdain for the rights of minorities, and the rule of law in general, is duly noted. Wouldn’t you feel more at home in a theocracy? Wouldn’t you be better at home in Iran or Afghanistan?

      • Jason Todd

        Stupid troll. Blocked.

        • LinCA

          Ooohh, what a precious snowflake you are. Can’t stand to have your silly positions challenged and respond by closing your ears, eyes and mind.

          Pathetic.

  • disqus_X4zDidVpdI

    Way to cave Chief. These bigoted thugs get their way threatening groups across the country. Tell them to go to hell, they are going there sooner or later anyway. Show some balls.

  • Roger Christiansen

    Spineless advocates one and all cowards who look for “safe opponents” . Go after the Islamic areas set aside for their rituals in public places? Go after the schools that are teaching Islamic practices. Then I will believe your really want to rid the places of religion, but right now? Like I said, spineless.

  • rightsright

    NO, NO, NO NO, NO! By removing the plaque, you are not standing up for God, so how do you expect God to stand up for you? You are committing a very dire act against God. So Wisconsin is going to tell you how to run Tennessee? Is ISIS going to tell you how to run Tennessee? So one, yes 1 atheist is going to run the Tennessee Police Department! No, No, No, No, No!

    • LinCA

      NO, NO, NO NO, NO! By removing the plaque, you are not standing up for God

      It is explicitly not the job of government officials to “stand up for [their] god”. Not while on the job, or on public property.

      What they, or anyone else, do or does in their own time and on their own dime, is their business.

      so how do you expect God to stand up for you?

      I don’t expect it to stand up for me or anyone anymore than I would expect Santa Claus to stand up.

      But isn’t your god all powerful? Why would it need anyone to stand up for it?

      You are committing a very dire act against God.

      Nah, Odin doesn’t care. Or isn’t that the god you are all up in arms about? Zeus, perhaps? Allah? Ra? Mithra? Vishnu?

      So Wisconsin is going to tell you how to run Tennessee?

      No, the US Constitution tells Tennessee what they can and can’t do.

      Is ISIS going to tell you how to run Tennessee?

      Of course not, and neither will the Christian version of it.

      So one, yes 1 atheist is going to run the Tennessee Police Department! No, No, No, No, No!

      Probably more than 1, but even if it was only one, or one Muslim, or one Jew, or one Hindu, or one Native American, or one Buddhist, or even not a single one of any of them, it would still be unconstitutional.

  • rightsright

    Allow me to state the truth! The separation of Church and state was initiated to protect THE CHURCH FROM THE STATES AND NOT VICE VERSA! We have the right to display any praise of God we choose in this great nation founded upon the premise of ONE NATION UNDER GOD! Don’t cave or you wil have to cave more and more and more. They are evil, so stand with God!

    • Trilemma

      You have the right to display any praise of God you choose in this great nation except on property you don’t own.

  • beonimagin

    Some people are strong Believers in their religion. Other people are natural in their religion. Still others are Not Believers at all. And then others are against religion, God and the name of Jesus Christ. Well to me the best way to end all this Mind Fornicating about religion and against religion and what it is for and not for is to want the TRUTH of it all of what is very east to get to KNOW. All one (especially those who don’t believe and those who are against believing in God) has to do is go find a church of Satan and then ask that you would like a visit with the master Yon the name the devil goes by on Earth (since in Revelation 12:9 it tells of the devil being thrown out of Heaven down to Earth, so this way you will prove that this verse is Truthful or not Truthful). You then will be led to Satan. Wow just THINK how pleased your Ego will be? And when you visit him make sure to ask him if Jesus Christ is real and the Son Of God. Well why not go for the TRUTH? Now if that is too hard for you to do then there is an easier way. The easier way is all you have to do is go to a bookstore to the occult section and buy the demonic bible written by Anton LeVey (of who started the church of Satan). Read it and when it comes telling what yo want for yourself, tell what you want and then take that pledge so you will receive what Satan promised you when you take that pledge of giving yourself over to Satan. Within seconds after taking that pledge you will receive the promise Satan promised but it won’t be to your THINKING it will be and in doing that you will find out that the devil is real. And since the Bible is the book that got the people to know about the word devil and with that should prove that GOD is Real. I know someone who took that pledge, he got what he asked for but not in the way he thought it would be. If it wasn’t for two men who was blessed in having the Holy Spirit in them (I was one of them) he would still be under the grip of CONTROL that Satan is all about. If you don’t Believe me then I gave you a way to KNOW THE TRUTH and all you have to do is do one of them. Gee Non Believers and those who hate GOD are those who just needs their Ego Pleased so this is a way for them to have their Ego Pleased. It is not hard to see that Ego Pleasing is more Important than Believing in those who do not care to Believe. So why not go for the TRUTH of the FACT OF WHAT IS instead of the Truth of what you Think Important as Truth or the Truth of what you Think You Know as Truth. The TRUTH of the FACT OF WHAT IS, is the TRUTH that PROVES. Well now I gave you the way for that PROOF. Don’t tell me that you will COWARD OUT now to KNOW that TRUTH. Come on now and stand behind and Prove what you Think Important and what you Think You Know? Come on now and Get That Ego of yours Pleased and find the TRUTH about Satan. And I sure do hope that you will Enjoy to the fullest with much jubilee the secret Satan has for you. I Know what that secret is and what a Big Surprise it will be for you. Just Think how Proud you can be after of having your Ego Pleased.