City in Mississippi Denies Homosexual Group’s Request to Parade ‘Gay Pride’ Through Streets

STARKVILLE, Miss. — A board of aldermen in Mississippi has voted to deny a homosexual group’s request to hold a pride parade in the city.

The City of Starkville denied a special event request from Starkville Pride on Tuesday in voting 4-3 against the group’s application. The organization sought to hold the event in the public streets on March 24 with the provision of city services.

None of the aldermen who voted against the request commented on the reason for the denial. According to the Clarion Ledger, Ben Carver, David Little, Roy Perkins and Henry Vaughn voted to reject the parade, while Sandra Sistrunk, Jason Walker and Patrick Miller voted in favor of it.

A number of citizens attended the board meeting to try to convince the City to approve the request, including at least two of the event organizers.

“This isn’t a march. This isn’t a protest. This is something that will bind this community together,” said Alexandra Hendon.

“We’re asking you to join us,” also remarked Bailey McDaniel, stating that the event would be a celebration of inclusion.

But two members of the public spoke against the parade, imploring the aldermen not to allow sin to be celebrated in Starkville’s streets.

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“If anything should be held up and down our streets, it should not be this. God made Adam and Eve,” declared resident Dorothy Isaac. “Do not turn our city into a sin city.”

“I think this is [already] a very inclusive, a very friendly place, a very friendly city, a very friendly county,” also commented Thomas Rogers, pastor of Josey Creek Missionary Baptist Church. “We’ve done a lot of things for the university and to attract businesses and influential people. But every city has to have limits. Cities without walls are easily taken.”

Starkville Pride told the Starkville Daily News after the vote that it will contact the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the Human Rights Campaign and the Southern Poverty Law Center about the matter to see what action can be taken.

“It’s disappointing that the Starkville Board of Aldermen would deny LGBTQ people in Starkville the chance to celebrate pride in their own city,” also remarked Rob Hill, the state director of the Human Rights Campaign, in a statement to the outlet.

Proverbs 14:34 reads, “Righteousness exalteth a nation, but sin is a reproach to any people.”

Jude 1:7 also warned, “Sodom and Gomorrah, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.”

In Matthew 10:15, Jesus instructed His disciples to preach in every city, proclaiming that the Kingdom of God was at hand. “It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city,” He warned of those who would not receive their words.


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  • DrIndica

    Apparently, in Starkville MS, freedom of speech only applies in certain instances.

    • Amos Moses – He>i

      free speech does not include a parade and that is why they need a permit ….. because it requires more than just standing up and saying what they want to say …….

      • DrIndica

        Are you referring to Skokie IL or Charlottesville VA, they were given permission to march based on freedom of speech. Or, are you the sole arbiter of Constitutional questions?

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          the city is the sole arbitur of whether they want a parade and have control of the permitting …… or NOT permitting ….. and the people of whatever belief can speak freely at a different place than blocking the streets that the city does not want to have done ….. their is no right to have a parade ….. constitutional or otherwise ……….

          • Bob Johnson

            Tell that to the Westboro Baptist Church.

          • When did WBC have a parade that was not approved of by the cities/states they operate in?

          • Bob Johnson

            None that I know of, however, how many times have they gone to court when the city refused their request?

          • I have no idea. Why is a despicable group as WBC an issue in this anyway?

          • Bob Johnson

            It is an interesting data point along with the gay pride groups for considering when a civil society should have the power to infringe political or social activities.

          • Maybe it is because of the late hour or because I am getting old or a combo of both but I still do not understand the point you are making with WBC.

          • Bob Johnson

            It is that old First Amendment again. Right after religion the Amendment goes on with “freedom of speech” and then “the right of the people peaceably to assemble.” Courts have traditionally sided with groups such as WBC and gay pride organizations to allow such parades. I’m sure we all have a list of organization that should stay out of the public view, however, that is not how our government was designed to operate.

            A person may try to make an argument based of public nudity and such behavior, unfortunately only 250 miles away in New Orleans, Mardi Gras, a christian holiday, is annually celebrated with large parades.

          • Thanks. Now I understand you.

            Mardi Gras is not a Christian holiday. It is a Roman Catholic holiday.

          • Sally Edwards

            Catholics ARE Christians. The earliest ones.

          • Some are Christians but not the earliest ones.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            when did they have a parade …………..

          • Michael C

            The Westboro Baptist Church often secures permits for their protests.

            WBC protests often create traffic issues and cost the city money.

            Do you think that the government should deny the WBC permits because WBC’s speech is unpopular?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            excuse me ….. i asked about a PARADE …. not someone standing on a corner who has a permit to do so ….. not that i believe they require a permit to stand on a particular corner ….. not the same thing as a parade …………. i do not think the WBC is required to have one …. nor do i believe the people in this article are required to have one to speak …….. but that is NOT what they want to do ……

          • For the record there are times when government is allowed to require a permit for a demonstration on public property. It depends upon the size of the event. Spontaneous demonstrations in response to breaking news do not require a permit. Nor do a couple of people in a park no matter how annoying they might be.

            Ergo, there are times when WBC does request, and does receive, permits. There are times when they do not. They are all lawyers and know the boundaries.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they are not “all lawyers” ….. and i think they do that to avoid problems when it might come up …… and to be fair ….. i am not even sure you could consider them christians ….. they really do not preach the gospel from what i have heard them say …… and that does not change my position ….. for the most part i do not believe they need a permit to stand on a corner and speak …… nor do the people in this article ….. but that is not what they want to do ………..

          • Michael C

            The point is this; Religious disapproval is no reason to deny a secular permit.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and there is no “religious disapproval” … there is a right to speak ….. not a right for an AUDIENCE or a right for a way to be made to gather it …. nor a right to disrupt others rights to get an audience ……….

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            The permit has requirements. They either fulfilled those requirements or they didn’t.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they did not …pass the vote …….

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            And now it’s under review. This isn’t a popularity contest.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            thats right ….. they were not denied their rights to speech ….. there is no right to a parade …. there is no right to an audience …… they are free to rent a hall and speak all they want ….

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            They are also free to have the decisions of the alderman reviewed to ensure they were not unduly restricted. The controversy isn’t procedural. The procedures are being followed and redress is likely. The battle is over mistreatment and prejudice toward homosexuals.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            there is no prejudice against homosexuals they do not CHOOSE …. we discriminate against certain things for certain reason …… depravity is not a right …… a parade is not a right …….. speech is a right ….. and while they are using the right of free speech as a cover …… what they really want to do is parade depravity …… no one is stopping them from speaking …… there is no right to parade ….. their rights are being observed ……… “The procedures are being followed ” …. sure …. and they are asking for permission …… and sometimes permission is denied ……

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            so tell me ….. should hate speech be allowed ………. and should it be permitted …………

          • It is “arbiter” and I shall be the arbiter of the English language.

            In any event, this is now headed to court and those aldermen are going to be required to state their reasons for denying the permit. It is unconstitutional for government to bar unpopular or controversial speech. It is also unconstitutional for government to act on behalf of religion or religious beliefs.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they have not barred it …. they have barred a specific activity …. not their speech ……. but sure ….. the militant LGBLTQRSTUVWXYZPQQ (and the rest of the alphabet depravists) must have their way ………….

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            And as members of gov’t they’re being asked to justify that decision. If it was founded on prejudice then the decision will be reversed. LGBTs were open targets once. Now we stand against the sadists who unfairly target them.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            what garbage …. there are no “sadists” against them …… nor were there …… homosexuals kill themselves in far greater numbers that they were ever supposedly “killed by sadist” ……

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            Undue shame, stigma, dishonor, injustice and isolation aren’t sadism? Try again. As a Christian I’d like to see LGBTs live better, have greater self-respect, with more openness, and in faith, but as they are. You don’t have to like LGBTs but expect a fight if you want gov’t to continue marginalizing them. The side I take in this is my answer to: “What would Jesus do?”

          • LynnRH

            Jesus would say to them the same thing He said to the woman caught in adultery (ANOTHER sexual sin), ” Go and sin no more.”

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            not undue …. that is just your opinion ……….. “As a Christian I’d like to see LGBTs live better, have greater self-respect, with more openness, and in faith,” …. and all that is CONTRADICTORY to what God has said…. to what CHRIST has said ……….. so to be “in faith” would require that they have to CHANGE ……. and for you to be a christian …… that opinion would have to change to be inline with Christ and christianity ……… repentance is TURNING AWAY from SIN and coming inline with GODS WILL ……. NOT God coming into line with OUR WILL ……….. “What would Jesus do?” … NOPE ….. you have not answered that question …… you have answered …… “What would i do to have Jesus like me” …. you have made a god in your OWN image ….. and that is IDOLATRY …………

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            God has said nothing that is not written in our hearts. The Bible is not his word and modern Christians do not allow our faith to be obsoleted behind it. Our best concept of God is always what’s best in us because that is the limit of our understanding of his divinity. You root yourself in the past and its evil. For God’s grace. many of us do not.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “The Bible is not his word and modern Christians do not allow our faith to be obsoleted behind it”

            YUP ….. that pretty much says it all ……….. YOU AINT NO Christian ……… you reject His word and His truth ……… go blaspheme elsewhere …………..

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            I accept Christ’s message with the Bible as a guide, not a rule book and certainly not the final word. Literalists do not own our faith and the breadth of its revelation grows as we do.

          • LynnRH

            Omgosh……you poor man. I WILL be praying for you. This is sooooo sad.

          • Sally Edwards

            And I will pray for you. My goodness how misled people can be.

          • LynnRH

            I was thinking the very same thing. And I will be praying for you.

          • Sally Edwards

            Ask yourself which of us is actively hating and not loving.

          • LynnRH

            Sharing God’s Truth is NOT hating. If you claim yourself a Christian why are you not doing what God called you to do which is to tell of His Good News? Why are you condoning sinful behavior when God says it is sin? If you want to argue that point take it up with Him. He’s God and I am not. I stand on the Word of God. You can do whatever pleases you.

          • Sally Edwards

            But what you’re sharing isn’t God’s truth but a corruption of it, and the hateful feelings and practices behind it are the evidence of that. I don’t condone sinful behavior. Gay or straight, promiscuity is a bad idea and I oppose it. But gay or straight, a committed monogamous relationship isn’t “sinful behavior”.

          • LynnRH

            “But what you’re sharing isn’t God’s truth but a corruption of it”

            Lady……I don’t know what Bible you’ve been reading but if you will go to King James Bible and then to Leviticus 18:22 you will read, “You shall not lie with a make as with a woman; it is an abomination.”

            Also go to Leviticus 20:13 and read, “If a man lies with a man as with a woman, both of then have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.”

            Well…….i’m not sure it can be any plainer then that. I’m not sure how i’m corrupting God’s Word. I’m just repeating it. Now if you want to continue on saying it isn’t a sin instead of standing with God then that’s between you and Him. Everyone has their choices but there are consequences for choices. Some consequences are good and some are not so good. As a matter of fact some consequences for choices we make can be devastating and last eternally. Not trying to change your mind…..just saying.

          • Sally Edwards

            Yes, and many sources online will tell you those verses refer to male prostitution.

            But even if they didn’t, you MUST have enough compassion to see the impossible position people like yourself are putting homosexuals in. You are basically demanding that they live loveless and sexless lives. How would you feel if anyone said the same thing to you?

          • LynnRH

            I have compassion for them in that they are going to Hell unless they turn away from the sins God calls sin and accepts Jesus as their Savior. THAT’s what I have compassion for them for. I have compassion for them in that they have soooooo many people just like you that continue working as hard as you can to keep them from seeing God’s Truth and coming to salvation.

            “Yes, and many sources online will tell you those verses refer to male prostitution.”
            LOL…..for one thing I depend on the Holy Bible (God’s Word) as to what it means. Not the online sources. secondly even if that is true about it refers to male prostitution, that is a sin as well because it would be male with male or male with female, or male with transgender. All sexual sin.
            Leviticus 18:22 says “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an abomination.” I’m thinkin you can’t get any plainer than that.

            You can believe anything you want to believe but I will always stand with whatever God Almighty says in His Holy Word the Bible. You might as well go argue with someone else because i’ll just be wasting your time.

          • Sally Edwards

            You still don’t see that you’re placing them in an impossible position. You consider the fact that they have sexual intercourse (like every other human being) to be a “sin” and you’re telling them to “turn” from that sin, in other words live a loveless and sexless life. God would not create such a situation for them, so it seems pretty plain to me that you’ve missed something along the way. If you’d only listen to what science is telling you, that it’s not a disease, and requires no cure.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            no ….. you have an idol you have constructed out of whole gossamer ….. and it is idolatry ……..

          • LynnRH

            What in the world makes you think the Holy Bible is not God’s inspired written word? Don’t you think God is mighty and capable enough to have been able to see to it that His Word was correctly written for us? WHERE is YOUR faith?!!!!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            so tell me ….. should hate speech be allowed ………. and should it be permitted ………… or should it be suppressed ………

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            Allowed by gov’t? It already is. And I don’t know how gov’t would suppress it without undermining itself. Hate speech is best checked outside of gov’t. Organize a heterosexual pride parade if you like.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            no such thing …. and why should there be ……… nothing there to be proud of as they do not identify themselves by a SEX ACT ………….. which is sad that the homoSEXUAL only has that to identify themselves as being …… and to have “pride” in it …… what a waste ……..

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            This post could serve as an example of what’s driving many people from our faith. It represents the worst we have to offer as Christians.

          • LynnRH

            What is driving many people from Christ is the fact that people who don’t have a true relationship with Him (that happens when you obey His Word and all of that is in the Bible) then it is extremely easy to fall away back into the ways of this God-forsaken world.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            go blaspheme elsewhere ……

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Trans wrestler on steroids wins 2nd straight girls’ state title

            Finishes high school career 56-0

            men beating up women ….. YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHH …… LOTS to be “proud” of there ………… OHHHH YEEEAAAHHH …………. /SMH …… (facepalm) …… (double face palm) ……. (triple facepalm) ……. (eyeroll) …..

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            So you finish up by attacking the whole LGBT population with a ‘Willy Horton’ anecdote and shouting. That’s sad. May Christ touch your heart.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Not a wille horton anecdote ….. news of the day ……. may Christ set you straight as you desperately need it ………….. and you are lying to every one of those poor lost LGBT souls ….. and that lacks any love at all ….. for them …. OR the TRUTH …………. OR Christ ….. OR the Holy Spirit ………………

          • LynnRH

            May Christ open your eyes.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            What does “identity politics” mean?
            “Identity politics” is the term given to a popular practice in which politicians divide people into group identities and inform them that they’re victims of a shadowy, systemic, oppressive power structure, and anyone who disagrees with them on any social issue is not an individual with valid ideas worth considering but is bigoted, full of hate, and wants them and everyone in their group to die a terrible death.

            Why do politicians encourage identity politics?
            To position themselves at the top of the actual societal power structure.

            What are some examples of identity politics?
            The idea that being against abortion means you’re “anti-women,” for example. Or that being against the Obergefell decision makes one “homophobic.” Or that having a different view on immigration makes one “racist.” Or that thinking there are inherent differences between males and females makes one “sexist.”

            You didn’t mention transgender people in your examples. Are you transphobic?
            See, you’ve got it.

            Why would people want to label those who disagree with them horrible things in order to not have to listen to what they say?
            Have you ever tried to have a discussion with someone you don’t agree with? It’s very triggering.

            This seems to be at odds with the important virtues of free speech, due process, and individual rights.
            Oh, but it feels so good.

            Has there been much pushback against the practice of identity politics?
            Yes. One example is sitting in the Oval Office.

            Have we seen the political ideal that “the group” is more important than “the individual” implemented on a large scale before?
            There are a few examples from the 20th century that you learned about in world history class.

            I don’t agree with The Babylon Bee‘s analysis of identity politics.
            Then you are brimming with deep-seated hatred for Christianity and your opinion doesn’t matter. Good day!

            Babylon Bee

          • DrIndica

            Apparently not familiar with the 14th Amendment. .so typical.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            apparently i am ….. it is not part of this issue ………

          • DrIndica

            The neo-nazis in Skokie and Charlottesville blocked streets. In fact in Charlottesville the white nationalists murderd in the streets. Doubtful a gay pride parade will have any fatalities

      • TheKingOfRhye

        Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or
        prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of
        speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to
        assemble
        ….

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          ” or the right of the people peaceably to assemble….”

          does not include the right to disrupt traffic and the roads ……. and so a permit is required ….. our rights do not include the right to obstruct other to FREELY TRAVEL ….. or any other right in the exercise of our rights ……..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            or any other right in the exercise of our rights ……..

            Hmm…..you’re right there, but I find it very interesting you would bring that up. You do realize that means you can’t (as so many Christians think they can) use ‘religious freedom’ as an excuse to violate the rights of others?

    • MCrow

      Everyone is equal, some are more equal than others. No bets on what would happen if someone denied Christians a permit to march…

  • Vince

    Good for them. We need more pro-active Christians. Be salt and light in this immoral world. It’s easy to go along with the crowd, but people of character will take a stand for the right.

    • LynnRH

      I’m proud to be a people of character. I will always stand for God’s Word.

    • This has nothing to do with Christians — at least it should not. You do know that there is no state religion, right? You do know that government is precluded from making law based on religion, right?

      Government cannot exclude a group of people from constitutionally protected speech. Those good Christians are about to see their town seriously hit by some serious legal fees courtesy of Robbie Kaplan who has already won several cases in Mississippi.

      • Colorado Conservative

        Oh indeed the Gaystapo will be out in force with their intimidation and threats. No one is stifling the homosexuals free speech rights or right to congregate. The town is simply saying they will not make the parade an official town event.

        • Stefan Gustofsson

          The Gaystapo doesn’t exist. The LGBT group is getting support from all over the country. The town must justify their rejection of the permit. In the American system the majority do not gain rights over minorities. What policies they vote for themselves apply to all.

          • PastProdigal

            Well…yes, it does exist. And how much support a group has is not relevant here.

            A townspeople have decided not to put sin on display and celebrate it. They have every right to do that.

          • LynnRH

            “is getting support from all over the country”
            Yes, unfortunately there are many, many, many people that are going to Hell because they will NOT stand on the Word of God. But instead choose to believe what they want to believe. There have been times while I was growing in my relationship with the Lord that something was revealed in His Holy Word that I didn’t particularly like and want to accept. And i’m sure that has happened to many people who BOTHER to even read His Word. But the fact that I didn’t like it did not matter one iota! He is God and I am NOT. So I just had to change MY mind about it instead of ignoring that part or instead of trying to change HIS mind about it. If you truly are saved I think you’d be doing yourself a great service by accepting what HE says is truth instead of what YOU want to be truth.

      • Drake

        Well, then, don’t be trying to eliminate the free speech of Christians.

        • Stefan Gustofsson

          Our free speech is not eliminated. We’re just being held accountable for it. Justice is not “just us”. When we broadcast a bad message, we get negative reactions.

          • Drake

            Accountable for free speech? I don’t think so. A parade is NOT the same as free speech as it blocks roads, creates commotion and litter, and inconveniences businesses.

            LGBT values are not presented fairly, either. If you want to bring out the truth, tell all of it, including the fact that <3% of the population identifies as LGBT, and 70% of STDs encountered by the health care system are perpetuated by that same <3% of the population. It isn't just about free choice to do whatever you want, but the health risks of the entire community brought about by those choices. There are serious consequences to those lifestyle choices..

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            The words of your own mouth broadcast to garner support and influence policy is power and something for which we should all be held accountable. “Free Speech” refers to lack of gov’t restriction. You are still responsible for what you say.

            Homosexuality is not a lifestyle choice nor do STDs define homosexuals as a group. That’s another slander sadists toss around to justify mistreatment of LGBTs. LGBTs are defined by their natural tendency to form romantic attachments/families with their own gender. In the spectrum of human oddities it should be laughable.

          • Drake

            If ‘Free Speech’ refers to lack of government restriction, then a parade is definitely NOT free speech, since control over traffic flow, etc. certainly needs to be governed.

            Notwithstanding, if you are gay it is because you have made choices to perform certain acts. There is no genetic predisposition for homosexuality as shown by numerous studies on twins and other groups. ‘Natural tendencies’ is a reference to human nature to behave in a depraved manner. It is our nature to fall into sin because of the sin of Adam. But that sin is still a choice.

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            Those who govern and are responsible for said traffic flow have to explain why the permit was denied. If the reason turns out to be prejudice against LGBTs then the denial will be overturned. It’s not a question of procedure.

            Homosexual orientation is not about specific sex acts. It’s defined by the sentiments and motivations behind them. Homosexual acts do not always indicate a person with a homosexual orientation and vice versa. Attempting to trivialize homosexuality as “a choice to perform certain acts” denies the reality of LGBTs. They are different, often expressing it at an early age, and with no clear or effective remediation. You’re not qualified to speak on the scientific arguments. The lead researchers on this topic have stated their consensus is that homosexuality is biologically determined. Nor are you qualified to judge sin.

          • LynnRH

            God has already judged that sin. He said it is an abomination to Him. We (true Christians) are just working as His mouth piece and letting the lost people called homosexuals know what God says about it and about His love and forgiveness if only they will ask and repent and then the promise of eternal life.

          • PastProdigal

            That just isn’t true.

            If it was not a “lifestyle choice”, there would not be people choosing to go that way, well into their later years. And that is happening.

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            Indeed, shame, stigma, and danger kept many in the closet. Not to mention the sadists who took advantage of their vulnerability. LGBTs who come out later in life choose to be honest about what was going on all along.

            I understand why some Christians so desperately deny the medical research, slander LGBTs freely, and get aggressive about their progress. When LGBTs win, those Christians lose. Their faith rests on a literal interpretation of the Bible. LGBT issues demonstrate the Biblical authors as men of more ignorant times. If the Bible is not the Word of God then where is faith? Your covenant disappears. Your moral authority falls. Your afterlife becomes a question. Even telling right from wrong may get cloudy for you. That’s a lot to protect. LGBTs are your casual sacrifice to maintain the house-of-cards.

            I trust in God rather than assume there’s a contract he’s bound to keep. Nor do I pretend a book written by the hands of men settles all moral questions. Individuals who take your approach demean faith in God, the message of Christ, and the value of his Church. Fortunately, you have a fight on your hands. Many like myself will not see our faith or the message of Christ obsoleted by those among us who sustain the savagery of the past and deny the wisdom of the present.

          • LynnRH

            I think if I were you i’d re-evaluate my relationship with our God Almighty. You have got some serious issues with that from what I can see. I’ll be praying for you.

          • AmericanPatriot58

            “If the Bible is not the Word of God then where is faith? ” Unfortunately, your argument is a house-of-cards built on a false assumption that the Bible may or is not the Word of God. Matter of fact it is the Word of God. Sure it was written by Man, but it was inspired by the mind of God.
            Listening to your straw-man arguments wastes both of our time. You pretend to kniow the truth when you do not know the truth. You will only know the truth when the Holy Spirit has spoken it to you. And if you question that it only means you have never experienced the Holy Spirit

    • Stefan Gustofsson

      The only stand I see here is bullying a group of vulnerable individuals for being different. This isn’t Christ.

      • LynnRH

        Not condoning the sin of homosexuality and also telling gays what God says about that sin IS CHRIST. So if you consider that bullying then so be it. You can take that up with God when you see Him because He gave us that responsibility. And we WON’T be backing down.

  • BravesFan

    Good. “Pride” parades are just filth.

  • Sapita

    I can’t see why any city should have to let ANY groups sexual preferences or appetites paraded down main street. If Starkville heterosexuals apply for a parade they should get refused as well. Why do personal preferences deserve a parade?

    • Colorado Conservative

      Because the militant LGBT’s are going to force you to normalize their perversion one way or the other.

      • Stefan Gustofsson

        The LGBTs aren’t forcing you to treat them with respect. They’re too few. Heterosexual people all over the nation are doing that by enforcing rules of fairness and consistency in gov’t.

    • Stefan Gustofsson

      When you attack a group of people unfairly, single them out to call them sinful, question their character and sanity without good evidence, you can expect them to counter the message. Pride parades are just that. The “personal preferences” aren’t on parade. The people are. And their goal is to thumb their noses at the false authorities prejudiced against them.

      • PastProdigal

        Do you realize that the same thing is said against Christians? We are attacked, called names, accused of being insane and weak-minded, and told to shut up. But the difference is..well, there are a ton of differences, and I think you know that.

        The streets of our towns are not the place where sexual preferences should be paraded, heralded, and put on display. Not for anyone, including heterosexuals.

        • Stefan Gustofsson

          Christian culture dominated America for a good long time. It lost its status because too many of us enjoyed the Christian label but shirked its responsibilities. We’re being attacked now precisely for being unChristian. Sexual orientation is a fact of life for LGBTs. It’s not perverse, vulgar, or even adult so long as the discussions don’t get too specific. LGBT leaders put these parades together as a message and a party for closeted and immature homosexuals. They’re a message to say they are not alone and their lives are something to celebrate rather than bury in shame. I applaud them as a whole and do not judge them on the basis of a misbehaving few. You’d rather not see them because you disagree with their message.

      • AmericanPatriot58

        So based on your logic we should all celebrate the lifestyles of Pedophiles. At what age would you draw the line for pedophilia? 10? 8? 6? Would 4 years old be too young? How about people who maim, torture and kill small animals? Should we celebrate their lifestyles too? How about serial torturers, rapists and killers? Does their lifestyle have right to be celebrated and not dismissed? Please tell us. We’d like to know just exactly where to draw the line.

    • Sally Edwards

      Well, you should be thankful you don’t need one.

  • VETCON

    “Sandra Sistrunk, Jason Walker and Patrick Miller voted in favor of it.”

    Vote them out! I salute the 4 who stood to deny the fifty request.

  • There should be no gay pride parades allowed anywhere in this country.

    • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

      I agree with you, they should not be allowed anywhere in this country. I’ve heard a lot about them. Some saying how bad they are. So I saw a couple videos of them. They are very bad. Some will even have children in them. They do some disgusting things in the parades.

      • Suaria

        It’s not as bad as the photos online. The majority of people wear t shirts and jeans with an exception of a couple of people. At least that has been my experience going to SF pride.

        • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

          Not talking about Photos online.

          • Suaria

            I’ve actually been to San Francisco’s pride multiple times. Most people are dressed in jeans and a t-shirt, with some people dressed in drag or other things. Videos and photos online make it seem worse than what it actually is like.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I’m not talking about your gay pride parades that you go to. If you could see what I saw you wouldn’t care anyway. What I saw is not something I would want to see again. My choice 🙂 Not yours. 🙂

          • Suaria

            Yet your original comment was talking about pride parades. So you were talking about pride which is what I was responding to.

        • PastProdigal

          It is bad. The videos I’ve seen would curl your hair.

          There is no defense for acting like animals.

          • Suaria

            I’ve actually been to San Francisco’s pride multiple times. Most people are dressed in jeans and a t-shirt, with some people dressed in drag or other things. Videos and photos online make it seem worse than what it actually is like since I’ve been there.

    • Colorado Conservative

      There is nothing “gay” or having “pride” in behavior practiced by less than 3% of the population. The actual real life statistics of homosexuality prove it.

    • Michael C

      What the heck are they PROUD of, anyway? Do they think people don’t watch the news? AIDS, pedophilia, trying to shut down Christian businesses. They ought to stage a shame parade and embarrass them publicly for all the harm they’ve done to America.

      • Stefan Gustofsson

        Pride parades started as a spectacle LGBTs organized against cultural and institutionalized shame unfairly heaped upon them.

        • As with all sin, sinners bring shame on themselves.

    • Drake

      Homosexuality is NOT a family value, but represents moral corruption.
      It is not a community value, either. A large group of morally corrupt
      people isn’t a community but an anarchy.

      • Stefan Gustofsson

        Homosexuality is a condition. It represents neither value nor corruption. The values we should be trying to impart to LGBTs are fidelity, honesty, compassion, and faith in God. These are good values we should promote for all families.

        • Drake

          Homosexuality is a condition of addiction which follows after certain choices are made, just like drug addiction. And this is not a condition promoted by God. People subject to this condition need serious help and an inward change of the heart that comes from the knowledge of the True God who is loving but also a Holy Righteous Judge.

          Allowing a parade does not promote these values or offer help. They won’t ask for help unless they really want it, and showing their ‘pride’ is antithetic to that.

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            That’s just slander. You made up your own diagnosis about people you don’t like and floated it as authoritative. Medical researchers are qualified to make these judgements.

            No man speaks for God and the Bible is not the law. Furthermore the sadism I see expressed here by many of my fellow Christians suggests we need a refresher on Christ’s message. Christ would not have rejected marginalized LGBT people for opposing injustice. He would have gone among them and spread the word of his Father’s love.

          • PastProdigal

            You are way off base. I won’t judge your salvation, that’s up to the Lord. Only He knows your heart.

            I think you mean well, but you do them no service by enabling them in their sin, any more than you would someone doing drugs or engaging in any other sin.

            Medical research does not validate the claims of the lgbt lobby. Not true research. Don’t just do research that you think validates your point of view.

            And as far as the Bible “not being the law”. ..That comment is so stunning, especially coming from someone claiming to be a Christian. Have you heard of the Ten Commandments? Read our Founding Documents? Been to Washington and walked the halls?

            Again, I won’t judge your salvation, but I do question your walk and the depth of your relationship with Christ. You sound as if you are using Him to justify what you want to believe.

          • AmericanPatriot58

            That is exactly what is going on here. It is you who are rejecting the message. You bespeak yourself to be a Christian, but your words tell us a different story.

          • Sally Edwards

            In the real world as we know it, you can be a homosexual as well as a Christian.

          • LynnRH

            In the real world a homosexual that has asked Jesus to forgive their sins and to be their Savior and Lord of their life and they repent (that means to turn away from) from that sin as well as ALL of his sin is a born-again Christian. They can not purposefully continue on in their sin.

          • Sally Edwards

            A homosexual can never turn from their homosexuality. And they should not be expected to from anyone, and certainly not Jesus.

        • Homosexuality is a spiritual condition of sexual immorality and can only be cured through the Blood Atonement of Jesus Christ.

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            Homosexual orientation may be cured one day … but by the hard work and investment of medical research. Those born with defects are not immoral or cursed. The message of Christ tells me to help them live as best they can as they are. Christian condemnation, shame, stigma, and sadism do not serve his example.

          • LynnRH

            God did not make a person to be homosexual. That is a Choice. Why in Heavens would God create a person to sin against Him. Why in Heavens would He call homosexuality an ABOMINATION to Him if He created a person to be a homosexual. WAKE UP!

          • AmericanPatriot58

            Yeah, yeah. According to the Homosexual coomunity; God created Adam and Eve, then he came back later and created Mike and Steve, because that’s such a wonderful idea.

          • LynnRH

            Bwahahah!

          • “Christian condemnation, shame, stigma, and sadism do not serve his example.” and I am doing none of that.

            Birth defects do not cause sin. Everyone is born to be heterosexual. God does not create sin nor tempt anyone to sin therefore homosexuals are not born that way.

            All sin is a choice and Christ Jesus is the only cure.

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            You’re rooting yourself in the past and battling change for the better. God is not with you.

          • I am a born again child of God. He is my Father and my friend.

          • AmericanPatriot58

            Homosexuality is cured today. Listen to the 100’s if not thousands of testimonies of people embedded deep in the homosexual lifestyle. Yet when they found the Salvation of Jesus Christ, they were cured either over night or over a period of time. Now many of those people go back into that community to proclaim a chance of Salvation for others. Do you deny those folks the truth they experienced?

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            Yes, I do … because they do. A quick search of ex-ex-gay testimonials will demonstrate.

            Then there’s my experience: as one who worked the DuPont company’s foundation and employee diversity program, I did many interviews/investigations on incidents of racism, sexism, sexual harassment, cultural discrimination and anti-gay prejudice. One glaring impediment I encountered was how freely otherwise respectable individuals will lie to cover embarrassment. Early in my career, I was naively frustrated by abusive managers who went uncorrected and vulnerable employees continuing to suffer. Even monitoring for retribution following an official complaint was difficult. I learned a lot. Social pressure is more powerful than most ever admit and good people will surrender themselves to it at their own expense.

          • LynnRH

            If I was sexually immoral in some way whether it was homosexual, fornication, adultery, into having sex with animals, having sex with minors I guess I would try to lie to cover embarrassment too.

          • Sally Edwards

            Homosexuality is a normal variation of human sexuality, is not a disease, and does not require a cure. That’s science talking, buddy, not me.

          • There is nothing normal about homosexuality being a part of human sexuality otherwise God would not have told us it is a sin and He would not have destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah..

          • LynnRH

            God Almighty is the ULTIMATE science teacher. And you will find that out one day. I just hope and pray it won’t be too late for you.

        • PastProdigal

          We should present them with the Gospel. Invite them to be followers of Christ.

          The rest falls into place. If we love Him, we will keep His Commandments.

          • AmericanPatriot58

            The only thing I want to do after finding myself inside a Homosexual community is go home and take a super hot shower and scrub my skin clean with lye, Clorox bleach, and a steel wool pad.

        • AmericanPatriot58

          Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! Oh, WOW! that’s a good one! Quit, Quit I can’t catch my breath!

      • Sally Edwards

        Hate isn’t a family value.

        • LynnRH

          When someone stands with the word of God who Himself says homosexuality is a sin that doesn’t mean that person HATES anybody. They are simply stating what God has already said.

        • Drake

          I don’t hate gays or lesbians. But it appears that they are very much unaware that their chosen lifestyle results in a phenomenal spread of disease. 3% of the entire population is responsible for 60% of the new cases of STDs every year, that 3% consisting of homosexuals. Syphilis was eradicated in the 1940s, but is back with a vengeance in the last decade among homosexuals. Statistics show that if a person chooses to become involved in the gay lifestyle at age 22, that person has a 30% chance of being dead or infected with AIDS within 10 years.

          Perhaps they think that marriage will cause them to be true to their partners and eliminate the risk of multiple partners– 60% of homosexuals have had at least 100 different partners within the last year. The basic problem with the idea of marriage is that most people who get married forget what the true definition of “LOVE” really is– hence the high rates of divorce, even among heterosexual couples. Yet homosexuals attribute their addictive behavior to an impulse beyond their control– hence the argument that it is not a choice. Pornography and homosexuality result in addictions as powerful as opiates, and is based on self gratification, not on helping the other person more than one’s self.

          “Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.” (John 15:13) This is the Biblical definition of Love.

          Hate is not a family value, but neither is homosexuality.

          • Sally Edwards

            Firstly, you cannot blame homosexuals for disease. Sexually transmitted disease doesn’t discriminate, it will infect anyone who is promiscuous and doesn’t use protection. So your statistics don’t mean much unless you include heterosexuals as well.

            Secondly, what does “involved in a gay lifestyle” mean? If you’re gay, you will only be attracted to people of the same gender, so to be like every other human being on earth, you WILL engage in a sexual relationship with someone and for all the same goals – love, companionship, etc. It’s not like they can change – you’ll have the same luck getting a battery to work with its poles reversed.

            Finally homosexuality is very much a family value – they were raised in families, after all, and they don’t abandon them simply because they’re homosexuals.

          • Drake

            I’m not blaming anyone for disease – only pointing out what medical studies in professional reports indicate.

            As for family values, according to your logic, violent crime could be considered a ‘family value’ because hardened violent criminals also have families. It appears you don’t know what the word ‘value’ means, and your logic is not sound.

          • Sally Edwards

            If you present medical statistics for homosexuals without presenting the same statistics for heterosexuals, your information comes across as misleading. Homosexuality doesn’t cause disease. Certain practices do.

            It is your own logic that is flawed. Violent criminals have families, but it’s what a person does that makes something a “value” and a violent crime is a bad value. Homosexuality isn’t what a person does, it’s what they are. You can be a homosexual and never touch another human being in your entire lifetime.

          • Drake

            Imaginary evidence doesn’t pass muster in a court of law. Your definition for what homosexuality is needs something more substantive than what is in someone’s head. Otherwise, you’ve only shown that homosexuality is really a psychological issue– something homosexuals have been trying to disprove for decades.

          • Sally Edwards

            My definition is the dictionary’s definition:
            homosexuality: sexual attraction to people of one’s own sex.

            See?
            No mention at all of any specific sexual practices. If you want to
            get into the nitty gritty of specific sexual practices I’m sure you’ll
            find that heterosexuals practice all the exact same things…and more,
            in fact.

          • Drake

            So homosecuality is indeed a psychological issue after all.

            As for your first paragraph in your previous comment: Read the reports for yourself.

            And as for values– family (and social) values are not what one does, but what one aspires to. These include character attributes like honor, integrity, honesty, morality.

          • Sally Edwards

            Homosexuality is a psychological issue in the same was heterosexuality is.

            I
            have read “the reports” but I haven’t cherry picked them. I know what
            they say. The fact of the matter is homosexuality doesn’t cause more
            disease, unprotected sex is what does that, and heterosexuals are guilty
            of it in similar proportions.

            And I’d REALLY like to know what
            your last paragraph is supposed to mean. Honor, integrity, honesty and
            morality are found in homosexuals just as much as heterosexuals.

          • Drake

            Heterosexuality is not an issue. It is God’s design for the procreation of the species.

            No, unprotected sex does not cause disease – microbes, viruses, bacteria, and free radicals do.

            And my last paragraph was exactly what was written; you don’t need to read between the lines. But homosexuality is not morally correct– not by my definition, but by God’s instruction: “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.” (Leviticus 20:13)

          • Sally Edwards

            Homosexuality may also be God’s design for the species to prevent overpopulation. Had you considered that?

            “No, unprotected sex does not cause disease”

            Are you sure you want to attribute your name to a rather bizarre statement like that one? It doesn’t take a lot of effort to find many sources that will tell you it’s flat-out wrong.

            “Homosexuality is not morally correct”

            Who defines what is morally correct? You?
            Since Jesus says nothing in the entire Bible about homosexuality, I think what you have there is an opinion and nothing more.

            Your Leviticus verse has widely been interpreted to refer to male prostitution.

          • LynnRH

            It hadn’t been widely interpreted to refer to male prostitution around me anywhere. That’s the first time I’ve EVER heard it. You can believe whatever you want to lady. But I am believing the Word of God just as He puts it in the Bible. Like I’ve said before God would not have EVER created someone to be homosexual if He said it is an abomination to Him. But whatever you want to believe you go right ahead and believe it. I’m done wasting my time on you.

          • Sally Edwards

            Paul could have used many words if he wanted to condemn homosexuality, he could have used “arrenomanes”, meaning mad after men or boy crazy, “erastes” which means a sometimes older man who loves a sometimes younger male, “eromenos” which means a sometimes younger male who loves an older male, “euryproktoi” which is men who dress as women, “paidophthoros” meaning corrupter of boys. But he didn’t, he coined a new word “arsenokoitai”. And there’s not a single shred of evidence that anyone in the first century AD understood arsenokoitai to refer to male and female homosexuality.

          • Mr. Chips

            Romans 1 is actually about male prostitution. See my response to Sally, above.

          • Drake

            You can interpret God’s Word however you want, but it is His interpretation that is final. The judgment of God is not subject to consensus. If you are wrong about Jesus, it really doesn’t matter what you are right about.

            “There is no counsel against God which can stand.” (Proverbs 21:30)

            “Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.” (1 Cor 6:9,10)

            “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.” (Gal 6:7,8)

            “Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls. But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.” (James 1:21-22)

          • Sally Edwards

            So how about we let His interpretation be the final one, and let homosexuals live in peace without being attacked by religious people? “Judge not” seems to be the hardest thing for many Christians to follow. Let God sort them out, as the saying goes. They don’t need your warnings because it’s not like they’re able to live their lives any other way in the first place.

          • Drake

            It is plain by your comments that you don’t know your Bible, don’t really know God, and don’t understand Judgment. What you take as “judgment” is merely a warning to KEEP you from judgment, given out of love and concern.

            “… Not like they’re able to live their lives any other way in the first place” is only true without the power of God. You see, we are all sinners and fall short of the glory of God, but the salvation that God provides comes with power of the Holy Spirit:

            “For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward; How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him; God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?” (Hebrews 2:2-4)

            And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 14:3-18)

            God is love, but God is also just, and cannot be bought off as a corrupt judge. The punishment for our sins is eternal, and redemption could only come by one perfect sacrifice – namely the crucifixion and death of One sinless and pure. Jesus loved us enough to die for us, and He proved it by dying for us. But He also was raised from the dead by the power of God, and makes that power available to us so that we can walk uprightly, following His example. This is what it really means to be Christian. The good news for you and me is that He has taken our place, taking our sins to the grave, that we can be set free from sin and shame. It is available as much to you as it is to me, if you want it.

          • Sally Edwards

            None of what you said has anything to do with what we know SCIENTIFICALLY about homosexuality. That’s the issue here, please don’t change it to how well I do or don’t know the Bible. As for God, you don’t know Him either. No one does.

            You cannot take a person’s inherent sexuality and call it a sin. We are sexual beings. I agree that we can take our sexual nature and do bad things with it, such as rape and adultery. But a homosexual couple who are monogamous and happy are not sinning and there’s no reason to use your faith to beat them up.

          • Drake

            If you feel you are ‘beat up’ by my faith, the error is yours. There is no such intent here– please don’t misrepresent me. Actually, if you feel ‘beat up’ the Christian perspective is that it is your conscience telling you that you are guilty of sin, because you are. We are all guilty of sin against God, and that is why Jesus took our place on the Cross.

            As for not being able to know God, you are half right. The Bible is a road map to knowing God, and you don’t get it because you are not reconciled by acknowledgment and repentance. I DO know God because I have approached God on His terms, and He has responded to me in ways you do not understand because you haven’t followed the protocol.

            And it is true: Unprotected sex is NOT the cause of disease. A husband and wife who marry as virgins and remain true to each other for the duration of their lives can have as much unprotected sex with each other as they wish, without ever incurring disease. That is God’s plan and His design.

          • Sally Edwards

            No, I have no guilt. I sleep very well at night. It’s very plain that there is a percentage of Christians who attack LGBT people. Read the stories online about teenage kids who killed themselves because their holier-than-thou parents put their backwards religion first.

            I’ve heard the “God has shunned you because you didn’t follow his rules” mantra before, sorry. I didn’t believe it before and I don’t believe it now either.

            Unprotected sex in combination with promiscuity causes disease, is that better?

          • Drake

            @Sally Edwards: Thank you for being candid and open to discuss these issues. I hope you don’t think that I am attacking you in any way, though I realize that a lot of Christians do say demeaning things– again, that is not my intent. I want to understand your perspective, and it is also important for me to try and express God’s love to you because I have carried my own guilt for too long before letting it go.

            I won’t go into details here, but some of my own acts left me feeling ‘dirty’. i never had problems sleeping, though, either. Over time the ‘dirty’ feelings went away, but when I discovered the truth of the Gospel, they came back. That is, until I came to confess them before God and trust in His salvation, and He washed me from all of that. Jesus reached me, and I know He can reach you, if you are open to that.

            Perhaps you are still working through some of these issues in your own life. All I can really tell you is that what I have found in Christ is worth sharing. Even if you are not accepting of it, I sincerely wish the best for you.

          • LynnRH

            I’m thinking we might as well give up on that one (Sally E) because it’s obvious she’s going to fight God tooth and nail. lol. The only think left that I can think of to do is just pray, pray, pray for her.

          • Drake

            Never give up! But do keep praying!

          • Mr. Chips

            The passages from Leviticus that Christians use to condemn homosexuals are a prohibition against men “spilling their seed” (a crime that was punishable by death – as Genesis 38:9-10*) with other men. Ancient Hebrews believed it should be saved for creating more Jewish babies. The Jews were a nomadic people who had many enemies. It was imperative that they procreate as much as possible as they were constantly under attack, and needed to increase their numbers.

            Romans 1 is actually about male prostitution. Paul was writing about heterosexual pagan idol worshippers from Corinth who had orgies with one another including temple prostitues (young, male slaves) and priests.

            “22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles**.

            24 Therefore God gave them over in the sinful desires of their hearts to sexual impurity for the degrading of their bodies with one another***. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things**** rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.” (Romans 1:22-24)

            *“But Onan knew that the child would not be his; so whenever he slept with his brother’s wife, he spilled his seed on the ground to keep from providing offspring for his brother. What he did was wicked in the Lord’s sight; so the Lord put him to death.” (Genesis 38-9-10)

            **Pagan made idols and worshipped they instead of god.

            ***‘degrading their bodies with one anoyer’ refers to rituals where they’d have orgies with with one another, including temple prostitutes (usually young slavery boys) and their priests.

            ****‘worshipped and served created things’ refers to idols.

    • Stefan Gustofsson

      Why not? Because you don’t like them? America is blessed because our standards for judgement are higher than that.

      • Because it is celebrating perversion and putting it on public display. America is blessed? Blessed by who?

        • Stefan Gustofsson

          It is not celebrating perversion. It is opposing sadism and injustice. LGBTs people are simply different, not evil. Our attacks on LGBTs are vicious sport, not righteousness.

          America has blessed and highly favored by God as his new chosen. We are wealthy, ordered, powerful, generous and opportuned among all other nations in existence today or at any time in our history. Where else would rather live?

          • All that is LGBT is a perversion. Say what you want but I have seen the parades and they most assuredly celebrate the perversions of sexual immorality. I don’t know who you think you are talking to but I am not part of anything pertaining to vicious attacks for sport or any other reason against anyone. I am telling the truth of God and His Holy Word when I say that this is a perversion, a sin and an abomination before our most Holy and Righteous God.

            What is this about America being God’s new chosen?

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            God created LGBT people not you. Who are you to judge? I’ve seen the parades too and the overwhelming majority are decent and well-mannered. I don’t let a few idiots color my opinion. I’m talking to someone who labels an entire population and speaks for Almighty God himself in condemnation. That is vicious, proud and unChristian.

            I noted your silence regarding where else in the world you’d rather live. America is truly favored above all.

          • God does not create sin nor does He tempt anyone to sin therefore God did not create LGBT people. I label no one. God has already done that when He told us all have sinned and fallen short of His glory and that He sent His son to the whole world that through Him we might be saved. As a born again child of God I am indeed authorized by Him to speak for Him by sharing the Truth of His Word with others to save as many as are willing to listen and be saved from the fire of His justified wrath for those who reject Him by rejecting His son.. It is never vicious or unChristian to share God’s Truth and Word with anyone and if you find it to be objectionable then I would suggest you pray earnestly about it and ask Him to open your heart and eyes to the Truth of His that leads to salvation.

            All sin is a choice and Christ Jesus is the answer and cure for all sin.

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            Your faith grants you no power and authority over others. Your presumption on the Word is sad and I see no humility or compassion in your approach. My prayers are answered in the people of faith and conscience who rises against those who believe as you do to protect LGBTs.

          • I did not say I had power and authority over others. I said I had the authority from God to speak for Him using what He already said in His Holy Word aka The Bible.

            What presumption do I have regarding His Word?

            According to God is same sex sex aka homosexuality a sin or not a sin?

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            The Word of God is inscribed in the human heart. Your literalist approach is presumption. The Bible is not the word of God. It’s the historical starting point of our faith written by men, compiled by men, edited by men. Some of those men were politicians.

            Our faith requires adherence to message of Christ and trust in God the Father. I follow that message and the Christ who spoke it because I know in my heart that it’s right. The Bible guides me with its wisdom but the responsibility is still mine. You want to contract with God, to limit him to scripture as though a being of his might and majesty is confined and characterized in a human book. You don’t know God or Christ if you believe his judgement is limited to our moral understanding from 1,700 years ago.

            Faith requires trust in Christ – blind trust – to his message and its responsibilities, the Bible notwithstanding. The Biblical authors attacked homosexuality for ignorance, as they accepted slavery, mistreatment of women, and a variety of superstitions. They got it WRONG. We supersede the Bible by the Word in our hearts. Always have – the responsibility of morality is OURS. That is how our society grew better and beyond the morality of the Biblical authors. YES, I say we are better. Today’s faithful are more aware of wrongdoing and labor more than in any previous era to heal hurts, help the needy, and protect the vulnerable from the evil of opportunists.

            Literalism does not stand any longer. Its confines no longer describe God’s majesty as we have learned since to appreciate. Consider not putting your faith in a book of men but rather your trust in Christ.

          • Leviticus 18:22 New King James Version (NKJV)
            22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination.
            —————–
            John 1:1-5 New King James Version (NKJV)
            The Eternal Word
            1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend[a] it.
            ————–
            2 Timothy 3:16-17 New King James Version (NKJV)
            16 All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
            —————–
            It is not our moral understanding from thousands of years ago or from yesterday. God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. He is unchanging and His Word is unchanging and both are 100% perfect in every way.

            God is the giver of our faith. It is not based on works. It is a gift from God just as is our salvation through Christ Jesus.

            The Biblical authors are God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit.

            Do you really think God is weak minded and did not know how this world would be 5,000 yrs after He created it? Do you really think He looks at us and this world and thinks, “boy I sure got that wrong. Didn’t see that coming”.

            The same things that were morally wrong/sinful 5,000 yrs ago are still wrong today. Stop trying to recreate God in your image.

          • Stefan Gustofsson

            We are at an impasse. I think we’ve both stated our positions well and understand one another. It’s a conflict of faith. I don’t consider LGBT lives a matter of opinion. I expect you feel the same about Biblical authority. Men of conscience frequently must settle differences through struggle and it’s nothing to fear. I trust in God’s favor for our righteousness. Otherwise, I wish you well in faith.

          • You are at an impasse with God, not me.

          • LynnRH

            You are absolutely right! That’s what we true Christians are called to do. To tell the truth of God and His Holy Word. There are all kinds of sins and homosexuality is also a sin and an abomination before our most Holy and Righteous God. Thank you Doug for saying that.

      • PastProdigal

        You are so, so deluded. You have fallen for deception. Right is wrong to you and wrong is right.

        I’m not trying to berate you but I do feel badly for you.

    • Sally Edwards

      I don’t attend them, but I’m not going to tell my friends they shouldn’t. Neither should you.

      • I am a child of God and as such I am responsible for speaking out against what He hates and He hates sin.

  • mzungu

    It is not about inclusion at all but about forcing everyone to bow to their god. Shame on those hateful sodomites.

    • Michael C

      I hate it when my town forces me to go to a parade and then watch it while kneeling on the ground. It’s so annoying.

      • ZappaSaid88

        Yet folks like mzungu are the first to say “if you don’t like that ten commandments monument in front of the school just look away. Nobody is forcing you top look at it.”

    • I am attempting to determine if that comment is real or satire. As satire it is wonderful. If it’s for real well, … you need to seriously re-take junior high school civics.

    • Stefan Gustofsson

      LGBTs are not so otherized in America anymore for you to get away with that remark. LGBTs are not sodomites; more like sons,daughters, brothers, sisters, friends, neighbors, and fellow Christians.

  • ZappaSaid88

    Well the Aldermen need to have a legitimate reason to deny the permit or they will be sued for an “arbitrary and capricious” decision. And no, religious reasons don’t count in civil government.

    • It’s their city and they can deny a public spectacle of perversion if they want to.

  • I hope they are happy with their legal fees. Robbie Kaplan is now suing and she is a powerhouse. Good luck with that.

    • The General

      Suing Jws. Bitter little things.

  • Kaz

    Good. Ban all visual pollution.

  • Brian Peyton Joyner

    The translation as “strange flesh” refers to the fact that Lot’s guests were angels.

    • ppp777

      That’s an original , what else are you going to dream up .

  • Good news from the City of Starkville.

  • Colorado Conservative

    Please THANK these Alderman for standing up to the radical LGBT agenda (list is for the mayor and all seven of them) l.spruill@cityofstarkville.org; b.carver@cityofstarkville.org;
    d.little@cityofstarkville.org; royaperkins@hotmail.com;
    h.vaughn@cityofstarkville.org; s.sistrunk@cityofstarkville.org;
    j.walker@cityofstarkville.org; p.miller@cityofstarkville.org

    “Silence in the face of evil is itself evil: God will not hold us
    guiltless. Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.”
    —Dietrich Bonhoeffer

  • Drake

    “This isn’t a march. This isn’t a protest. This is something that will bind this community together,” said Alexandra Hendon. What a lie! Homosexuality is NOT a family value, but represents moral corruption. It is not a community value, either. A large group of morally corrupt people isn’t a community but an anarchy.

  • parquet

    Wait a few more years and the pedos will claim they feel “excluded.”

  • Stefan Gustofsson

    We are supposed to be followers of Christ’s example. Is our poverty of spirit and pure sadism so strong that we think attacking LGBTs is pleasing in the eyes of God? Christ went among those who society considered immoral and contemptible. He reached out to the marginalized with an open hand, not a balled fist. We’ve treated LGBTs badly. Let’s do better.

  • Leon

    L – Let
    G – God
    B – Burn
    T – Them

    • Sally Edwards

      What a lovely thing to say….so Christian.

      • LynnRH

        Seems to me the pro-gay people on this Christian website have plenty of LOVELY things to say themselves. Ha!

        • Sally Edwards

          I have yet to see a pro-gay person advocate for anyone to be burned for an eternity. I would seriously ask you if this is what your brand of Christianity has led you to.

          • LynnRH

            I didn’t say what in specific has been said by the pro-gay. I just said they have had plenty of LOVELY things to say themselves. And I didn’t say anything about the comment made on the acronym above being lovely either. Everyone has their own personality. No need to judge every Christian the same. But I can’t for the life of me understand WHY all these unbelievers are even on this Christian website except to see what kind of a big stink they can stir up. Surely they can find other unbeliever websites that would be more to their liking! lol

          • Sally Edwards

            Maybe it strikes them as a little bit outrageous that there are people who claim to have a higher moral standard than the rest of us which includes telling people they’re going to burn for an eternity in hellfire. I wouldn’t teach my child that in a million years.

          • LynnRH

            If you don’t teach your child what God says (which includes Hell for those who reject Jesus’ free gift of salvation) you are doing your child a terrible disservice. But totally your choice nobody (including God) is trying to force you. But you will answer to God when you see Him face to face as to why you chose to keep the Truth of Jesus from the child He trusted you with. It won’t be a pretty picture. But again……totally your choice.

            This is a Christian website. Therefore unbelievers that feel the need to be here too are BOUND to hear Christians discussing things that concern Christians. So honestly we don’t give a hoot how outrageous they are. They can’t be anymore outrageous than we (Christians) are about their moral standards.

          • Sally Edwards

            You will answer to God as well, and you will be expected to answer why you didn’t treat your fellow human beings with respect and decency. That’s Christianity 101.

          • LynnRH

            My sins have been covered by the blood of Jesus. And since my salvation I have tried not to sin against Him but I am still a human being and will still fail Him on a daily basis. I don’t know how you have decided I don’t treat my fellow human beings with respect and decency. You don’t even know me. If you are talking about my sharing Gods Word with others on this website then all I can say is take it up with God. Because I am doing what i’m expected by God to do. To share the Word of God with others. I’m on this Christian website because I am a Christian and the news articles on this website are of an interest to Christians. And I enjoy discussing Christian topics with other Christians. And so why are you on this website? are you like so many others here just to antagonize the Christians and see how big of a stink you can cause?

          • Sally Edwards

            It’s awfully presumptuous of you to assume that you’re the only Christian in this conversation. Ever heard the phrase “What would Jesus do?” Well tell me then. This is a man who ate with prostitutes and lepers and tax collectors, and you seem to think he would shun homosexuals and personally usher them to hell.

          • LynnRH

            You sure are good to presume what all I would have to say. And i’m not sure what makes you think that I think i’m the only Christian in this conversation. There are several on this website that I feel are probably truly saved. ANd that’s because the things they say are in line with what God says in His Holy Bible. Yes, I’ve read the Bible and those stories you are referring to. And for your information I have had a friend that was homosexual, and I have had a friend that admitted she was an adulteress. I didn’t shun them. But I did share the Good Word of our Lord Jesus and His saving Grace with them. They did listen to what I had to say. They weren’t NEAR as nasty as most of the unbelievers on this website have been. I just love it when you put words into my mouth for me. thank you so much. and as you assuming I would think Jesus would shun them and usher homosexuals personally to Hell why don’t you take the time to read what God Himself says about the unsaved going to Hell. And if you have a problem with that I suggest you argue with Him about it not me. I’m not God He is.

          • Sally Edwards

            Was your advice to your homosexual friend to stop being a homosexual? I think that’s the problem here, you give impossible advice that leave people unfulfilled and lonely. Most Christians tell homosexuals that they either have to “turn from their homosexuality” which is physically impossible, or to live celibate lives which is utterly cruel. As a Christian I do the loving thing and tell them to find someone they love who makes them happy and to stick with them.

          • LynnRH

            I have not only told them that those lifestyle choices are a sin against God because they are but I will also show them where it says in the Bible. I never fail to also let them know that God gave His Son Jesus as a blood sacrifice for the gift of forgiveness and salvation. People have to know what sin is and what God considers sin in order to turn away from it. And as for homosexuality being something someone’s born with that is a crock! Why in Heaven’s name would our Creator God create someone to be homosexual if He said it is a sin?! Why would He create someone that way and know that was going to cause that person to sin against Him. Now wouldn’t that be a stupid thing to do? Homosexuality is a choice just like adultery, fornication, murder, steal, lie, etc, etc, etc. It’s like any other sin though and it CAN be forgiven. But a person has to turn away from it (repent). They can’t just want forgiveness and eternal life with God in Heaven and just keep on sinning on purpose against Him. That is just like telling Him thank you Jesus for dying that cruel, cruel death for me to give me your precious gift of forgiveness, and salvation. But…….no thanks! That’s like a spit in His face!

            How would you like to have someone ask for your forgiveness and you sincerely forgive them for doing you wrong. And then next thing you know they turn around and spit in your face and say “thanks but no thanks!!”
            Wouldn’t that make you feel loved? I think not.

          • Sally Edwards

            If you think it’s a crock, why don’t you ask a few homosexuals sometime? And if you think they are all lying to you, why don’t you see what the medical and scientific communities have to say about it?

            Oh, someone’s lying to you all right, but it’s not the people you think.

          • LynnRH

            And so I guess you’re calling God a liar. I don’t need to ask the homosexuals or see what the medical and scientific communities have to say about it. I can see what God says about it. And that’s all I need.

          • Sally Edwards

            I don’t call God a liar, which to me is impossible, since he’s not actually here to discourse with. I have no problem calling people who interpret the Bible creatively to be liars, though. And it seems interesting to me that if someone tells you that they have a headache, you don’t question them, but if they tell you they’re homosexual, you do.

          • LynnRH

            that’s because headaches aren’t a sin but homosexuality is. God says so.

          • Sally Edwards

            You missed my point. When you ask someone if they have a headache and they say yes, you don’t question them. But you seem to think that all the homosexuals on earth are lying when you ask if they are really in love with someone of the same gender.

          • LynnRH

            I love people of my gender too but i’m NOT going to have sex with them because that would make me committing a sexual sin against God. So it doesn’t matter if a homosexual tells me they are really in love with someone of the same gender. If they are having sexual relations with them they are sinning against God. He says so.

          • Mr. Chips

            You love people of your own gender…are you a celibate lesbian?

        • Mr. Chips

          Ha! You need to crack open a bible and see what it says about being kind to one another.

          “And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them.” (Luke 6:31)

          “Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.” (Ephesians 4:32)

          “A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” (John 13:34-35)

          “But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law.” (Galatians 5:22-23)

    • Mr. Chips

      How Christlike.

      “Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, as God in Christ forgave you.” (Ephesians 4:32)

  • nineleven

    God opens up his kingdom to all who call upon the name of Jesus. yay for exclusivity of Jesus and His way! its time.

  • james blue

    It appears there has been a change of mind.