Harvard Places Christian Group on Probation for Asking Bible Study Leader in Same-Sex Relationship to Resign

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CAMBRIDGE, Mass. — The Harvard Office of Student Life has placed a Christian student group on administrative probation after it asked one of its leaders, found to be in a same-sex relationship, to step down as she would not agree to the group’s moral standards.

“After a thorough review and finding that HCFA (Harvard College Faith and Action) had conducted itself in a manner grossly inconsistent with the expectations clearly outlined in [the Office of Student Life’s] Student Organization Resource and Policy Guide, OSL has placed HCFA on a one year administrative probation,” spokesman Aaron Goldman said in a statement published by the Harvard Crimson.

While Goldman did not specifically outline how Harvard College Faith and Action violated the university’s policies, the co-presidents noted that they were told that the sanctions surround—in part—the Christian standards they have for those who lead the group. The student group is being accused of discrimination.

“Earlier today, we met with an administrator who informed us that the college would place HCFA on probation, citing our relationship with Christian Union, as well as our standards for leaders,” said Scott Ely and Molly Richmond in a joint statement.

According to reports, in September, a female student that had been leading Bible studies for HCFA was asked to resign after it was found that she was in a romantic relationship with a woman. The matter was brought before the Office and Student Life in December, which resulted in the group being suspended for one year.

Goldman says that HCFA will have to show that it is in compliance with Harvard’s nondiscrimination policies before it can be recognized as a student organization again.

Ely and Richmond state that they have not engaged in discrimination as they did not ask the Bible study leader to resign simply because she struggles with bisexual feelings, but because she would not agree to the group’s standards. The group mandates that every leader refrain from having premarital sex.

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“We reject any notion that we discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation in our fellowship,” they outlined. “Broadly speaking, the student in this case was removed because of an irreconcilable theological disagreement pertaining to our character standards.”

“Our theological view is that—for professing Christians who are in leadership—celibacy is the only option outside the bounds of marriage,” Ely and Richmond explained. “We have applied and do apply this policy regardless of sexual orientation.”

Christian News Network has reached out to Ely and Richmond for clarification on the matter. The resigned leader told the student newspaper that she believes she wasn’t asked to step down solely because of her bisexual orientation, but because she purposefully chose to enter a same-sex relationship in light of that identity. In other words, there is a distinction between homosexual temptation and yielding oneself to act on, rather than resist, that temptation.

The Harvard Crimson also notes that two other students had held leadership positions in HCFA who struggled with homosexual inclinations, but purposed to remain chaste and not pursue relationships with those of the same sex. They were not asked to step down.

The student paper had recently accused HCFA of giving “a platform to homophobia, conversion therapy and hate” for hosting Jackie Hill-Perry to speak to its members. Hill-Perry formerly lived as a lesbian, but through repentance and faith in the saving power of the Lord Jesus Christ, she walked away from homosexuality.

“Hill-Perry’s beliefs represent neither love nor kindness,” an editorial published on Feb. 16 read. “Her talk extends a harmful narrative targeted at LGBTQ+ students that homosexuality is wrong. In fact, on her website, Hill-Perry claims that she was ‘saved from a lifestyle of homosexual sin’—hardly creating an inclusive environment for LGBTQ+ members of our campus.”

As previously reported, a similar situation recently occurred at the University of Iowa, as officials de-recognized a Christian student group for not allowing a peer to serve in a leadership position because he refused to adhere to the group’s biblical beliefs as they pertain to sexuality. He rather informed group leaders that he intended on pursuing a same-sex relationship.

Business Leaders in Christ (BLinC) sued the University of Iowa in December after being punished for abiding by its core Christian values. Last month, Judge Stephanie Rose, appointed to the bench by then-President Barack Obama, granted a temporary injunction in finding that while the school policy was valid, it was not being applied equally.

“The court orders Defendants to restore BLinC to registered student organization status for ninety days. Following this ninety-day period, BLinC may seek further action as necessary, and Defendants may respond by detailing any changes to the enforcement of its Human Rights Policy to registered student organizations,” she ordered.

Harvard University was named after the late pastor John Harvard, and in its early years, held the motto “Truth for Christ and the Church.”

“Let every scholar be plainly instructed and earnestly pressed to consider well the main end of his life and studies is to know God and Jesus Christ, which is eternal life. Therefore, to lay Christ in the bottom as the only foundation of all sound knowledge and learning …” its student manual read.


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  • Jon Staples

    Awesome!!! Go Harvard!

    Can you IMAGINE the rage by religious folks if they’d fired someone espousing nasty religious views?

    • DianePenn

      But according to homosexuals it seems all religious views are nasty.

      • alfred e newman

        to a lot of strait people as well

        • Estoban

          Who are these people you speak of that believe it is nasty to be against murder, lying and stealing?

          • alfred e newman

            christian islamic any other idiotic religion

          • Estoban

            Learn to read.

          • alfred e newman

            that would be way above the education level of this web site

          • Estoban

            That would be your problem.

      • NC91

        I agree-I particularly like the ideas of military chaplains: do they say ‘kill’ or ‘do not kill’?

      • Jon Staples

        When used to harm others, which they often are, of course they’re nasty.

    • alfred e newman

      hypocrites will be hypocrites communist will be communist religious fanatics will be religious fanatics birds gotta fly fish gotta swim

      • NC91

        are you MAD?

        • alfred e newman

          i tell it like it is the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth

          • NC91

            No one -except me -does that and it gets me into trouble all the time.

          • alfred e newman

            spouting the communist party doctrine bible makes you a hypocrite and a liar

          • NC91

            amazing what I don’t know I know

          • alfred e newman

            the day the squirrel went bazurk in the first self righteous church in that sleepy little town of where ever you live sister birtha better than you

      • oldfatguy

        And queers like you have to catch AIDS…

        • alfred e newman

          i am strait just ask any 1 of my 5 ex wives or my current wife or any of my 18 children never had v d not 1 time in 78 years

          • oldfatguy

            5 ex-wives? Was the atheist-thing the reason you danced your way out of so many hearts?

          • alfred e newman

            no i personally i only married them to get in their pants never actually believed in communist party doctrine marriage fidelity thing but to get some prime pussy sometimes you have to play along with a we are the borg trying to assimilate you

    • steve

      All schools of higher learning and Hospitals were originally created by Christians. No rage here, but let those who are ignorant, be ignorant still. If you don’t find the truth before this life is over, you will in the next and is you think this is all there is, your in for a rude awakening. Hope you loose your anti-Christ spirit.

      • NC91

        I went to heaven-but didn’t like nit much-full of dull christians

      • Jon Staples

        Christians have no special place… they’re just citizens and deserve no other treatment.

        And keep your mythological threats… they’re boring.

        • steve

          LOL with your puny finite mind who cannot figure out an infinite God. You Mythed it big time, but I have the most rewarding fantastic life helping people and impacting the whole world. I walk in authority and dominion in governmental places in many nations. Just ministered to two senators in Sacramento CA and also to leaders in Washington DC, besides Africa, Asia, Europe and Latin American nations. Not boasting in me,but in God who always gives me the victory in Christ Jesus. Your holiday is April fools day. The fool has said in his heart there is no God. bye bye, will not waste mine or your time any longer. lol hahahaha

          • Jon Staples

            Oh goodie!

            Yes dear… that’s special…

            Pride goeth before the fall.

          • steve

            Don’t twist or misquote what is written if you don’t know how to quote it right. Also if you noticed I gave God the glory, not myself, but God doesn’t call the qualified, He qualifies the called. Read some more and then quote that word the right way. Pride comes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall. I said I was boasting not in myself but in God, but you seem to have a very haughty spirit. I said bye bye and that’s enough

  • Reason0verhate

    More “diversity” and “inclusiveness” from the American college. Spend a fortune to have your child’s mind narrowed.

    • alfred e newman

      by religious fanatics

      • steve

        Your ignorant. The Bible is not a religious book, but a legal document. Look up testament which is a legal term. But Jesus didn’t come to start a religion, but to restore a relationship with a loving creator and heavenly Father. It’s funny though because you say fanatic, When someone says your a baseball or football fan, that’s short for fanatic which means that person knows more about the sport then you do and all the facts of their team, So when they call me a Jesus fanatic, that just means I know Jesus better then you do and have a great relationship with my creator then you have with yours. Thanks for the compliment.

        • Don39

          You’re right.

        • james blue

          That should be “you’re ignorant” or “you are ignorant”

          • oldfatguy

            Thank you, Miss Manners…

          • paulrph1

            That is common usage with the younger set.

          • james blue

            Common usage among the uneducated set perhaps.

            I’m not a member of the spelling police, We all make typos, we all use incorrect words and we all construct sentences improperly. I wouldn’t have said a thing if he had used it in a different comment (he has) but when used in conjunction with words directed at others like “ignorant” or “stupid” the irony needs highlighting.

          • paulrph1

            My comment was in regards to “your” and not ignorant or stupid.

          • james blue

            I know, but when placed in front of “ignorant” or “stupid” it need highlighting.

            If he had said “your a nice person” it would have been an incorrect use of “your”, but I wouldn’t have said anything.

          • paulrph1

            Need or needs?

          • james blue

            Very good

        • alfred e newman

          the communist party doctrine bible has absolutely no actual legal standing in the united states of america the constitution is the law of the land not your communist party doctrine bible in your communist party doctrine bible you simply do not have any civil rights of any kind you have a king who rules by divine right he is your god on earth his word is the word of god on earth you do what he tells you to or die you think what he tells you to think and nothing else you simply do not have independent thought you simply do not have individuality basically you are a drone programmed from the day you are born we are the borg you will be assimilated resistance is futile

      • oldfatguy

        No,by fanatical homos…

        • alfred e newman

          religious people make up the vast majority oh homosexuals why do catholic priest shop at walmart they herd that boys pants were half off

          • oldfatguy

            Sounds like the “voice of experience”, Alf…

          • alfred e newman

            no just what i saw on the tv news

      • malaw

        Even a religious fanatic is better than an atheist fanatic.

        • alfred e newman

          not when religious fanatics constantly do the best they can to destroy the constitution with their we are the borg you will be assimilated resistance is futile there will be 1 and only 1 communist party religion there will be absolutely no independent thought there will be absolutely no individuality there will be no such thing as civil rights this is you

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  • Gloria1960

    I wonder if John Harvard would be a little shocked if he could see today? His motto for higher education has drifted off course .And you want to go to this college why?

    • alfred e newman

      it was fun i graduated top of my class 2 phd

      • Don39

        And you didn’t even learn basic reading and writing!

        • alfred e newman

          i simply have to stay on the education level of the web site you know the welcome to the planet of the apes 1

      • NC91

        I’d like you to stick to comics

        • alfred e newman

          communist party doctrine bible is very comical

          • NC91

            too many big words for me-what the fuck is ‘;dialectical materialism’?

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  • DianePenn

    So now Christians must adhere to policies such as homosexual leadership when in fact the bible marks those acts as abominations.

    • alfred e newman

      the bible is an abomination communist party doctrine and fairy tales that got way out of hand

      • steve

        Are you really that stupid? Of course you are, because you don’t know the author of God’s word or the secretaries that penned it. Of course God says, you will search for me and find me when you search for me with all your heart, so a halfhearted effort won’t work and you’ll remain in you limited lack of knowledge of the truth. You little finite mind cannot comprehend an infinite God. Where were you when the galaxy was formed or when God hung the circle of the earth in the nothingness. Tell me if you have the answers…lol

        • NC91

          I don’t know the answers to silly questions

          • steve

            obviously you don’t know the answer to anything that’s beyond your scope of intelligence. Religion is very boring, but when you meet Jesus, nothing in this life compares to it. Jesus didn’t come to start a religion and it was religious people and politicians that He had the most problems with and to be honest, some Christians are boring, but Jesus has taken me on the adventures of my life and it’s anything but boring and if you really went to heaven, you wouldn’t be talking smack, because you would fall in love with the one who saw you and knew you before you were in your mothers womb. Reality will come to you before this life ends I pray.

          • NC91

            you are very short on evidence, and if you haven’t been to heaven then you are talking nonsense

          • steve

            Why don’t you try reading a book called evidence that demands a verdict by Josh McDowell. He was out to disprove that there was even a God and came back with more proof that there is. And I have been to heaven, but it wasn’t my time to stay and I came back. Twice Drs told my wife to call the family because of liver failure, kidneys shut down and diabetes to. I have no problems today and kidney and liver drs all say I’m a miracle, but of course My Father God is a miracle worker. You don’t have to believe me, but it was a win win situation, To live is Christ and to die is gain. I am not my own, I’ve been bought with a price (not gold or silver) but by the shed blood on the cross of Calvary where Jesus took my sin away and He can do the same for you if you just ask Him to. Be blessed NC91

          • paulrph1

            Prayer does work. But for the doubter it does not.

          • NC91

            so god doesn’t exist for me-I’m sure I won’t miss it

          • LynnRH

            I’m pretty sure you WILL wish you had.

          • NC91

            I don’t think you are ‘pretty sure’- I don’t think you have a clue except for your silly beliefs-you are just repeating what you have mindlessly absorbed

          • LynnRH

            Whatever you want to think with your silly mind is your business. I haven’t mindlessly absorbed anything. You don’t even know me. Why don’t you take your hatred and venom somewhere else? You won’t be successful at stopping me from speaking God’s Truth anyway. You are wasting your time.

          • NC91

            I only come here occasionally to laugh at the silliness of those who believe that god fucked a virgin. Dirty old man-he should go to hell !

          • LynnRH

            I’m pretty sure the owner’s of this website just haven’t caught on to your foul mouth, condemnation of the believer’s on this website and your blaspheming of Jehovah God yet. But when they do you will be history as far as we are concerned. You have to be on drugs and/or are full of hatred and/or mentally ill in order to be as ugly-acting as you are.

          • NC91

            no, I think the web-site owners are laughing at you because you are so easily parted from your money

          • LynnRH

            Lol……not sure what silliness you mean by all that nonsense because I haven’t been parting from any money. But then again….you really haven’t had anything intelligent to say on this website anyway. No need to reply to my post because I won’t be giving you anymore of my time. That’s exactly what you’re wanting in order to keep your BIG STINK going and I won’t give you the satisfaction any longer. I will be spending my time on others on this website that actually have something intelligent to contribute to each other.

          • NC91

            see you in hell.;

          • James C. Robinson (III)

            Yes, because the LORD God Almighty exists & is Holy King, whether NC91 believes Him or not! Hallelujah, LynnRH!❤

          • James C. Robinson (III)

            Again, wrong answer!

          • oldfatguy

            What proof do you have of that?

          • LynnRH

            Prayer has been answered in my life many, many times. Maybe you should try truly believing in Jesus and obey His Holy Word before you pray for blessings?

          • NC91

            if you claim your prayers have been answered then you lie to yourself as well as to others

          • LynnRH

            When a person prays to the Lord about something and then the Lord answers that prayer it isn’t because I lied to myself or anyone else. And I have had many prayers answered in my life time. you can like it or not I really don’t care.

          • alfred e newman

            thou shall not worship false idols before me your own communist party doctrine bible tells you it is bullshit

          • NC91

            but I also thought the communist party doctrine bible was bullshit

          • alfred e newman

            if you believe in jesus you are a communist

          • James C. Robinson (III)

            Although unlike several others & myself here, you might hate the LORD’s Holy Word, the Bible, still, please watch your language here! Thanks anyway!

          • NC91

            from Nigel Cairns (XXXVVV111). I am sure that a bunch of religious hypocrites like you use far worse words. I don’t HATE the bible-I just think it is crap-oops, done it again.

        • alfred e newman

          communist party doctrine written by man not some super natural being there simply is no actual truth or fact of any kind in it absolutely nothing ever ended well in it either from adam and eve on everything ended in disaster

          • oldfatguy

            And your proof of that would be?

      • Don39

        Sick troll. You’ll not influence anyone here so go talk to the mirror like the idiot you are.

        • alfred e newman

          go play with your inflatable farm animals and various vibrators and dildos

      • JGCitygin

        First of all, calling a person stupid and a troll because he doesn’t believe as we (I am a Christian), isn’t going to cut it. It’s wrong. I am angry, too, over the condition this world has degraded into, so that I could easily snap at others. Let’s not do that here: it won’t solve anything. But I will answer this: Christians have been persecuted and are being persecuted in Communist countries. Jesus existed and walked the earth. Evidence of Noah’s ark has been found. God is real; none of us created ourselves. The Bible isn’t fascist. And God isn’t unloving: no more than when Daddy tells his kids: Don’t touch the stove or it will burn you. I know I don’t know everything. And when I was born, I knew far less. Everything around us, all creation speaks of an Intelligence far greater than ours: even now in turbulent times. If God has said homosexuality is wrong, it doesn’t mean He hates. It means He didn’t create us to lie down with our own sex, and ultimately there are consequences of our actions: whether people want to hear it or not.
        Now… if every group has to conform to what Harvard dictates, then the group has become generic. It has lost its individuality. And now, if a leader in a Muslim group admitted to serving pork, and there were objections to this, who is Harvard or any other institution to call down people’s religious convictions?
        Nebuchadnezzar had Jews as captives, Daniel included. Daniel worked hard and was obedient to Nebuchadnezzar, wasn’t defiant, said his prayers and took each day as it came. But then, Neb. commanded everyone to bow down to the great big image. Daniel said: Here’s where I draw the line. We have always done this throughout history. Because of it, we’ve been thrown to the lions, beheaded, raped, burned to death in cages, lost our homes, lost our jobs, lost our businesses, hauled before courts time and again, sawed in two, stripped of all our possessions. And I probably left out a whole lot. And a whole lot is happening right now: ISIS. And in the U.S. And evidently Harvard. Where a group of people are told to accept something clearly not in harmony with God’s will or be cut off.
        So… why do we do this? Do we hate everyone? Quite the opposite.
        It’s because we love others enough to tell them when they’re doing wrong: even if they hate and despise us and call us all sorts of names, like homophobes (implying irrational fear). Communists. Haters. Bigots. Troublemakers. Traitors.
        So, you see, it isn’t just God. It’s the second greatest commandment too.

        When Joshua sent spies into the land of Canaan, the Canaanites wanted to find and kill them. A lady named Rahab hid them and lied and said: They went that-a-way. She was:
        1. A Canaanite.
        2. A prostitute.

        She wound up becoming the great-great-great (etc.) grandma of Jesus on earth. Because she realized there was Someone and a Way of Life greater than the sins she was making. And she turned away and sought a Good God.

        So… please, folks, don’t call “Mr. Newman” names. Someday, you might fall out in the street, and the “Newmans” of the world might be the first to call 911 and help you. There’s too much people being offended at each other. Too much hatred and inflammatory speech. AND people offended at one another over very little. This is not The Holy Spirit, but a demonic spirit whose cancer is eating away at this planet and her many souls.

        • steve

          Your right and I repent for my rude response. Thank you for the correction. God bless you and I pray Alfred e Newman comes to the knowledge of the truth of Jesus Christ. Thank you again ??❤️✝️?

        • NC91

          religion is so boring

          • JGCitygin

            You have a right to voice your opinion. As do I. That’s what makes our country great. Evidently there’s a reason why you guys are drawn to this site. No, I don’t belong to any organized religion myself, but still, there must be some reason you are bent on bashing all sorts of faith. Peace.

          • NC91

            At least two reasons: Two people who have a little bit of power over me are trying to make my life miserable. I learned that they are both pastors. One will not talk to me at all, the other tells appalling lies. He will not talk about his ‘pastorship’ or respond to my questions as to why his behavior is so un-christian. I don’t need religion-they do, but it hasn’t worked on them.
            Also, let’s stop this nonsense about everyone being entitled to their own opinion-many opinions are demonstrably ridiculous.

          • JGCitygin

            Sadly (and badly) there are a lot of hypocrites who say they’re God’s people but are after selfish ends. I’m sorry you’re going through changes. As for opinions: yeah. True. But this is America: can’t take away free speech. Unless someone’s threatening someone or the like. I’m glad we’re having this conversation: who knows, someday our paths may cross.

          • NC91

            Hi-yours is the first comment that talks sense-thanks!

          • LynnRH

            I have more excitement in my life as a believer than I EVER did before I was saved. If religion and Christian topics bore you why don’t you take your hate and need to fuss, berate, and make a big stink to other websites more to your liking? You’d probably have less stress, anxiety and probably healthy blood pressure readings.

          • NC91

            I’m just marveling at how stupid religious people are

          • LynnRH

            Well marvel away! I’m having some blown-away moments myself seeing how blind and totally rebellious unbelievers are these days.

        • alfred e newman

          long winded nonsense total insanity just remember the constitution is the actual law of the land not the communist party doctrine bible

        • NC91

          your reply is too dumb to read.

    • james blue

      I don’t understand why they want school affirmation to begin with. Why not just meet as an independent group with no accreditation and be free of any school inclusivity rules.

    • LynnRH

      But we Christians have to “be still and know that He is God” and realize He tells us in His Holy Word that in the end times this world would be the way we are seeing it. We just need to remember He WILL have the final word. And even though we don’t enjoy getting our teeth kicked in every time we try to share the Good Word with the lost we must just keep fighting the good fight. He WILL have the last word.

  • alfred e newman

    just goes to show communist will be communist and there simply is no such thing as liberty or freedom no independent thought or individuality of any kind in religion they simply destroy liberty and in no way protect it we are the borg you will be assimilated resistance is futile this is religion

    • steve

      When you know the truth (Jesus is the Truth) (not a religion) the truth will make you free. Your in bondage and you don’t even know it…lol. I’m free to do anything I want, but there are somethings I choose not to do, because it’s not expedient for me to do it. Typical Afred E Newman….MAD.

      • alfred e newman

        jesus was a idiot who died for nothing all fairy tales and lies

        • James C. Robinson (III)

          No, instead, Jesus Christ died on Calvary’s Cross & arose to life to save the world, you, & me from sin, guilt, & death as well as reconcile us to the LORD God & His everlasting righteousness now, in Heaven above, & in the new earth forever! So, what His Holy Spirit helps steve & me to say here truthfully, please stop calling this any lie anymore because otherwise, you’re wrong & spiritually in trouble till you realize it!

          • alfred e newman

            jesus had a look alike actually die on the cross and his body stolen then had superficial wounds put on him to make it look good then simply disappeared completely to heel up like everything else in the communist party doctrine bible all fake but to many generations of brainwashing illegal narcotics and incest your parents were brainwashed by your grandparents and so on and so on mental illness like your can be understood

          • James C. Robinson (III)

            No, alfred e newman! Though I have no hate & mean no disrespect toward you at all & according to free will, you might be entitled to your opinion, [right or wrong,] still, things concerning Jesus’ death on Calvary’s wooden Cross, glorious Resurrection to life again, & ascension back up to Heaven above happened just as the LORD God Almighty of Heaven says by His Holy Spirit & trustworthy Scriptures which He inspired through Old Testament holy prophets would happen, whether or not you believe it! And besides, the LORD’s Holy Word is an everlasting foundation that always stands & never changes!

          • LynnRH

            Ha! Talk about mental illness…….you’ve obviously got it. And I suppose you can prove you were there and saw all of that. You will be yet another one put on my prayer list……whether you want it or not.

          • alfred e newman

            go play with your iinflatable farm animals and various vibrators and dildos

  • Sally Messineo

    Why would a Christian even consider going to a Bible Study led by someone in a same-sex relationship? This has nothing to do with hate – you either believe the biblical worldview or you don’t. For those of us that do, why be a hypocrite by attending this farce.

    • paulrph1

      Why not read the bible for what it says instead of what you want it to say.

      • Sally Messineo

        You should try it for yourself. This is no different than if I were aware of my study leader having a marital affair or living with opposite or same-sex outside marriage. It’s that simple and it is in the New Testament as well as the Old. However, there is no reason for hostility – love the sinner not the sin. It’s a stand I personally would take. That’s all I’m saying.

        • paulrph1

          I was not trying to be indignant but I was simply stating that people all the time twist things to cover for their sins and do not try to change but try to mask their sins. They vote their sins, love their sins, endorse their sins. The only way a person can become better is by trying overcome their sins and not by accepting them. That is why we have repentance. Then we have forgiveness which goes hand in hand with repentance. Paul taught on Mars hill and after much listening his response was one of the saddest, declaring “almost thou persuadest me to be a Christian”. I believe in being tolerant but cannot accept acceptance. Acceptance in reality benefits no one and most of all it does not benefit the person.
          I did agree with your comment and believe it is justified. I thought I was adding to your comment.

          • Sally Messineo

            Sorry for my misunderstanding – have a great day!

      • Tonya Elise

        ALL CHRISTIANS are SINNERS…True Christians Do not judge others..*** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
        nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
        I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
        *** John 14:6King James Version (KJV)
        6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto
        the Father, but by me.
        *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
        nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
        I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
        Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
        since before Jesus was on earth.
        **** John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
        on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone ! _
        **** Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV) 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
        2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
        and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
        3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye,
        but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
        **** Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things
        are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
        Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest:
        for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that
        judgest doest the same things.
        AS A CHRISTIAN IS IS OUR JOB TO BRING PEOPLE TO THE CROSS AND JESUS and not turn people away. WE ALL SIN, EVEN So-called Christians SIN and YOU are no different

        • paulrph1

          While you may think as you want but read the words of God for what He says and for what He will accept and not accept. While I am not to judge people I am to call them to repentance. Repentance is one of the principles of the gospel. Acceptance in not a principle of the gospel. God will be the judge and He cannot accept sin or He would cease to be God. You quote much but disregard the ones that are pointed right at you. It is call selective reading and many will ignore the scriptures that would condemn them. Quit rationalizing your sins, I do not rationalize my sins but try to improve myself over them.
          You have proven it. One can twist the scripture to say anything they want them to say if they disregard the other ones.
          Whether or not you claim to be a Christian or not, God will not accept your lifestyle. Period! I will not bother to quote the scriptures that point you way of error because you have read them before and wish to ignore them but those scriptures that you ignore will be your judgement.

  • Rippie

    So, this is a reasonable action by Harvard.

    There is no proof, admission or witness to her having sex. The issue is simply that a gay woman has a girlfriend and is a study leader.

    And yet, she was made or voted a study leader and there was no problem. So the problem is that she refuses to “not be gay?” That can’t work because the other two are still members of the group.

    It doesn’t sound as if there was actually any direct conversation about having premarital sex, just a thought-experiment that it may be that issue.

    But, that would have been within non-discriminatory guidelines for the school and NOT triggered this censure.

    And people wonder why folks are leaving churches and Christianity steadily in America.

  • james blue

    Does this group have a chastity clause for heterosexuals as well? Should one of their leaders engage in a physical relationship with their opposite gender relationship partner would they be required to step down?

    • LynnRH

      That would be fornication if the two weren’t married. Or adultery if one or the other or both were married to someone else. Those are sexual sins too. So yes……they should be required to step down.

      • james blue

        But does this group require it?

        • LynnRH

          well I would hope they would if it did happen. that would be standing firm with God’s Word. That’s what true Christians are suppose to do.

  • mathis1689

    The people who founded Harvard would shed tears and spin in their graves like a top if they could see the moral cesspool that Harvard has become.

  • regulus30

    Two [2] questions; 1.] why do fools send their skulls full of mush to this 666shithole666; 2.] what if the circumstances were reversed? A homosexual/gay person asked for the Christians to be silenced

  • ralhow

    It is not discrimination against persons but the moral stand of discrimination against bad behavior. The problem with Human Rights is that they rest on the arbitrary, temporal state; but Natural Rights are endowed without the state, which includes the right of conscience and the right of free association. Students then have their right to vote with their feet, as well as alumni hold Harvard administration accountable for violating the rights of conscience, and the grievance of taxpayer dollars towards such a subversive regime.

  • paulrph1

    It is either race or discrimination. What ever happened to morals or standards?

    • LynnRH

      Morals and standards have gone to pot that’s where. Right along with sooooo many others in this God-forsaken world!

  • Grim Reaper

    The Bible is very clear about Homosexuality.
    It is an affront to God, and unacceptable to living a Christian Life. It is a sin one needs to repent of. To embrace a gay lifestyle and then pretend your sharing the gospel and leading people to Christ is completely delusional. The group was right to call this incompatible person from the pulpit. Harvard Administrators think that anything goes and anyone can practice whatever doctrine they choose.
    Tell me if a Satanist wanted to preach to a Christian Group and they did not want that to happen based on the Bible would they be discriminating against the Satanist? According to you, it would be.
    Harvard Administrators where is your logic and reasoning?

    • LynnRH

      “Harvard Administrators where is your logic and reasoning?” Gone to pot that’s where. Right along with soooooo many others in this God-forsaken world!

      • Grim Reaper

        Common sense, reasoning, and logic have indeed been tossed out at Harvard to accommodate lying, hypocrisy, and hedonism.
        I wonder if a professor gives a test on a subject and a student answers the question incorrectly, would that professor be ridiculed or censured for pointing out the error in a wrong answer. The stupidity of these admin officials is mind boggling?!!!

        • LynnRH

          I agree!

  • Estoban

    Unfortunately Harvard has devolved from its original mission, just as some mainline churches have become cults by rejecting part of God’s Word.

  • PatriotGal

    Parents, save your hundreds of thousands and don’t send your kids to colleges/universities that have become brainwashing, libtard ideological cesspools. Let them work their way through school, perhaps then, they’ll realize not to waste $$$$$$$ on garbage institutions.

  • James C. Robinson (III)

    Hi, Heather Clark! Also, Heaven forbid that Harvard Office Of Student Life should’ve placed Christian student group Harvard College Faith & Action [including Scott Ely & Molly Richmond] on administrative probation for rightly asking that so-called “Bible study leader” to step down & resign! Again, may our Creator-Redeemer forgive & have mercy on Harvard Office Of Student Life members who suspended that Christian innocent student group since as [apparent] slaves to sin & Satan, they don’t know what they do, even if they did this deliberately!

  • Karen Naylor

    A CHRISTIAN GROUP DOES HAVE A NARROW MIND. THEY ARE MEANT TO HAVE A NARROW MIND. THEIR GOD SAYS DO NOT SIN AND GIVES A LIST OF THE THINGS THAT CHRISTIAN ARE NOT SUPPOSE TO DO. FUCK AROUND IS ONE OF THEM.

  • Nadine Faber

    Yes, hate the sin and not the sinner. However, the Girl Scouts took God out of their creed, so did the Boy Scouts…making all girl or boy organizations or clubs…no longer acceptable…other groups are changing too and forgoing the Foundation this Country was built on…to not allow tyranny and dictators tell us what we can say, believe, do…and yet this is happening all over with the progressive socialist ideologies that are responsible for the moral decline of this Country along with the devaluing of human life from conception to the very sick and elderly. The political correctness has changed the actual intent or goals of these organizations or groups. It is about acceptance, following the values or beliefs of each group If you don’t believe the Bible and are in a Christian group, how can you represent what you are suppose to be supporting or believe in if you are living “in sin”? Just asking. I think the decline in many organizations, clubs…are being negatively targeted because of the bias and hate of political correctness for any and all Biblical teachings or about Christians and Christianity. This is the intent to criminalize Christians, Catholics, Jews…any religion that is not Muslim (people have died because they called out the Islamic beliefs and are everyday, blown up newspapers for cartoons of Muslims beheading people…) and all those scriptures that they do not like in the Bible giving people the right to ignore them. You know that men in power use the scriptures to “wives submit to husbands…” and so on as a means to justify keeping women’s wages or not letting them work, ruling over the home of women and children, dictating laws, keeping women from voting or owning property, having a voice …. Scriptures can be misused for evil, but they can also be used to promote common sense and a means to living a healthier and happier way of life. That is how I see the Bible and feel others should too. Yet, we are against a world who wants to get rid of the bible and teachings completely… This is why schools and others are willing to punish those who want their members who represent the groups to share the same values and beliefs… Our Country has made tons of awesome advances, but they have lost so much of our culture and way of life that was good too.

  • Tonya Elise

    *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
    nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
    I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
    *** John 14:6King James Version (KJV)
    6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto
    the Father, but by me.
    *** Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,
    nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.***__
    I AM CREATED BY GOD > I am trans-gender and i am still a Christian.
    Judge not lest ye be judged. The Trans-gender people have been around
    since before Jesus was on earth.
    **** John 3:16 i am saved. Your Judgement
    on my is a Sin. Let those without sin cast the first stone ! _
    **** Matthew 7:1-3King James Version (KJV) 7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
    2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged:
    and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
    3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye,
    but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
    **** Romans 1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things
    are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
    Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest:
    for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that
    judgest doest the same things.
    AS A CHRISTIAN IS IS OUR JOB TO BRING PEOPPLE TO THE CROSS AND JESUS and not turn people away. WE ALL SIN, EVEN So-called Christians SIN and YOU are no different

  • Ronda O’Bryant

    Harvard is morally messed up! Would they force an Islamic group to accept a Jewish leader?

  • movingwaters

    Weren’t a number of these long lived institutions of higher learning founded by Christians for the purpose of teaching both the Bible, and it’s application to society? It is a pityu to see how they have devolved into institutions that hate God and His word. Like Lucifer, they have to say, “Did God say……? Yes, God did say that all this perversion of his design is an abomination to Him. It is not a special sin that is given special excuses. The answer is the same. God’s word is true. He didn’t manifest his own Son supernaturally, let him teach, heal, cast out demons, and suffer the Cross so that any of us could use His name to hold on to our sins. Instead, we wash our minds in His word, change our direction with repentance of sin and joy at being set free, and learn to walk with our wonderful Savior. Cheap grace is what it is worth – nothing.