Megachurch Minister Claims It’s ‘Insanity’ to Believe Men Will Go to Hell for Rejecting Christ

NEW YORK — A megachurch minister recently told his congregation that he thinks it’s “insanity” to believe that men will go to Hell for rejecting Christ, and claimed that it is “not even what Jesus believes.” His comments have been met with outcry as blasphemy and false teaching from many who have viewed an online video clip of his remarks.

Michael Walrond, Jr. leads First Corinthian Baptist Church in Harlem, an assembly that has expanded from 350 members to 10,000 members within the past 14 years, according to its website.

“We are an ever evolving community of visionaries, dreamers, and doers who have been called by God to live the lives we were created to live; commanded by God to love beyond the limits of our prejudices and commissioned by God to serve,” First Corinthian’s purpose statement reads.

Walrond asked those present during the Feb. 25 service to read the statement aloud, which he characterized as being comprised of “transcendent words,” that is, applicable to all belief systems and not one specific religion.

“[T]hey are transcendent words, transcendent statements, which means they are not relegated to any one religion or set of beliefs,” he said. “If you are a person who believes in God, these words can apply to you, no matter what your faith background.”

“We get so twisted in this country and in many cultures to create divides and boundaries and barriers between human beings because of our faith difference,” Walrond continued. “Think about it: that we use the thing that we think makes us closer to God [as] the very thing to divide us from one another at times. And that makes no sense.”

He elaborated further, stating that he is not a person who believes that those who reject Jesus will go to Hell. He claimed that the “key” is to simply believe in God.

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“And so, I’m not one of those people—There was a time when you would see people in the pulpit say, ‘Well, if you don’t believe in Jesus, [you’re] going to Hell.’ That’s insanity in many ways because that is not what Jesus even believes,” Walrond asserted, generating a smattering of applause. “And so, the key is you believe in God. And whatever your path is to God, I celebrate that. Personally, I celebrate that…”

Walrond, who had been named “One of the Lord’s Foot Soldiers” by Newsweek Magazine, suggested that if men cannot be united regardless of religion, there is a problem with man’s understanding of God.

“Again, we have enough in this world that divides us. We need to find those things that bring us together,” Walrond said. “And if God cannot bring us closer together, then something is wrong—not with God, but in how we think we know God and understand God.”

A video of Walrond’s comments was shared to social media by Kevin Davis, the minister of music at Friendship Baptist Church in The Colony, Texas, generating 75,000 views and numerous comments, both for and against Walrond.

“7-9 billion people on the planet with thousands of belief systems. One would have to be closed minded and ignorant to think that Christianity is the only way to righteousness,” one commenter wrote. “There are tribes that have no contact with civilization who have no idea about Jesus or a Bible. We should celebrate all paths that lead to righteousness.”

“Jesus said ‘I am the way,’ not one of the ways. As a pastor you personally are going to give an account for leading your flock the wrong way,” another stated.

“So, exactly why did Jesus go through the excruciating death of the cross? Why did God even set a people apart? Why was it necessary to slaughter lambs, goats and doves as a sacrifice for sin? Why bother with Christianity at all? You, sir, will answer for this blasphemy,” a third remarked.

“[T]his preacher, who is worried about Jesus dividing the people, is so wrong, and [I] am doubting his ability to lead his congregants,” another said. “Jesus himself said, I came to separate a daughter from her mother, a son from his father, a sister from a brother, etc. (Luke 12:51-53), and what He meant by that was He is the word in John 1:1-5 and it is the word of God that separates good from evil. Good and evil can never blend. Light and darkness can never mix. Truth and lies can never agree. So Mr. preacher, read your Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to help you understand the word of God.”

“Pastor needs Jesus … deceived and deceiving. But the saddest part is the ‘amen corner’ agreeing with the hogwash coming from the pulpit,” one also lamented.

Watch the video clip here, and view Walrond’s remarks in context here.

Jesus proclaimed in John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but by Me.”

He also declared in John 8:24, “I said therefore unto you that ye shall die in your sins, for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”

Jesus similarly preached in John 3:36, “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life, and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

He further warned in John 10, “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber. … I am the door. By me, if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.”

Acts 4:12 likewise teaches, “Neither is there salvation in any other, for there is none other name under Heaven given among men whereby we must be saved.”


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  • Amos Moses – He>i

    “We are an ever evolving community of visionaries, dreamers, and doers”

    hmmmmm …… i am going to guess what you are dreaming and doing has more to do with certain substances …… and NOT scripture ……

    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    pretty clear …. pretty direct …… unless you are using the Etch-a-Sketch bible……. God is not a Gumby action figure you get to mold and shape to your liking and your idols ………… christianity and the church Christ began is not Burger King and you get to have it your way …………

    • Kirk Quesnel

      amen well put and absolutely true.

    • Jacob Waldmiller

      Couldn’t have said it any better myself

    • LynnRH

      ” Gumby and Burger King” Bwahahaha! Amos you’re so funny! 🙂

    • david

      Well said sir.

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    we are all condemned to hell …… that is the fallen world we live in ….. the ONLY way out of that condemnation is acceptance of Christ ….. but on Christs terms and not ours …… scripture is not a negotiation …… it is an ultimatum ……………

    • Susan Perelka

      AMEN! The apostle Paul said to HOLD FAST to the gospel message that he delivered by revelation that CHRIST gave him, not given by man. He WARNED not to turn away from it, not even if an angel came and preached a different gospel or even if Paul himself later preached a different gospel (which he never did, remember he fought the good fight and KEPT the FAITH). Follow Gods instructions in His Word, the WHOLE council in His Word, not mans. That is the good and FAITHFUL servant. The one who DOES the will of his MASTER! If Jesus Christ is your Master, than DO as He tells you to do, it really is that simple. The Master himself says that HE (JESUS CHRIST) is the Way, the Truth and the LIFE, no one comes to the Father except through HIM (JESUS). You either believe this (which is FAITH) or you do not believe it. CHOOSE! LORD Jesus, let those who have ears to hear , hear what the Spirit has to say, which is YOUR WILL. AMEN!

  • Susan Perelka

    Thank you LORD for exposing the wolves in sheep’s clothing for all to see. Let Your Light continue to expose their deeds of darkness. Strike the fool so that the simple will learn. May Your Kingdom come and may YOUR WILL be done. In Jesus Name. AMEN

  • Samwise

    Humans since the dawn of humanity have believed thousands of ideas of what, if anything, awaits humans after death. Many of these people wrote down their opnions in what became a myriad of religious texts.

    I understand that those here have chosen to believe one version based on what other humans have said and written.

    Where would I find physical evidence that supports one version of any afterlife and disproves all others.

    • Susan Perelka

      One word, PROPHECY. Only someone outside of time can tell you what will happen with 100% accuracy, every time about future events. The dead sea scrolls contain the book of Isaiah, which is loaded with prophecy that came true over many generations (and those dead sea scrolls prove it was written down BEFORE it happened). The book of Daniel does the same, as well as other Old Testament prophets. We have thousands of ancient Old Testament texts. They tell of nations that would arise and fall before it happened. I haven’t found any other religion that has done that. That’s all the proof I need.

    • Amos Moses – He>i

      you have the proof …. you do not accept it as proof ….. so for you ….. there is none ….. as you accept none ……….

    • Susan Perelka

      PROPHECY shows it. I made a longer comment that is now not showing, so I will leave a short one. The bible predicts the rise and fall of nations (Babylonian, Medo Persian, Greek, and Roman Empires) with exact details and 1000’s of ancient Old Testament texts prove it was written way before it occured. Only the one true God could do that. Old Testament prophets prophecied the coming of Jesus in the New Testament in detail, the New Testament is recording it as it is fulfilled. Lee Strobel years ago made a documentary called “The Case for Christ” giving details about how he was challenged, as an athiest, to go and prove the bible wrong, he was a Chicago Tribune journalist. You can watch it on youtube. He made a more recent 2017 movie with the same name, but it is more showing his personal experience as he did this, where the first one gave details on what he tested.

    • Rick

      The physical evidence, as Amos noted, is all around. If you are earnestly seeking the truth ask God, as He has noted in Matthew 7:7…”seek and you shall find…” It matters where you seek, however. If God is who scripture describes Him to be and who the Holy Spirit, in those of us who have accepted Christ as Saviour and Lord, has revealed Him to be, He wants you to know the truth. Ask Him. Read His word and its very clear. The question is, do you genuinely want to know the truth?

  • The false teachers/preachers are alive and well. The Lord tells us so. Pray the Lord will take hold of them and give wisdom and discernment to those who hear their message.

  • Richard T.

    Well, brothers and sisters, we are now seeing the final line of demarcation. What this person preaches is the One World Religion that is the harlot that rides the beast in the Book of Revelation.

    The Bible is so very clear that if we have the Son, then we have the Father, if we do not have the Son, then we do not have the Father! And NO ONE goes to the Father except through Jesus Christ the Son! And if we confess Jesus before men, He will recognized us before the Father. If we deny Jesus before men, then He will deny us before the Father.

    We are coming into the last days, with prophecies fulfilling before our eyes! Hold on fast and tight, our salvation is drawing near!

  • Lydia Church

    It is insanity to claim that men will NOT go to hell for rejecting Christ!
    “That is why I told you that you would die in your sins. For unless you believe that I am He, you will die in your sins.” John 8; 24
    ‘And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature. Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.” ‘
    Mark 16; 15-16
    Those are the words of Jesus Christ. And there are many, many more.
    We all have a choice to make, will we believe the Word of God, or the contradictory words of man? Your choice will determine where you spend eternity; heaven or hell.

  • LynnRH

    Just yet ANOTHER example of how people decide what parts of God’s Holy Word they want to believe and what parts that they don’t. How ignorant!

    • Tim Matter

      Amen. “people decide what parts of God’s Holy Word they want to believe and what parts that they don’t.”
      By the way, what do you think we should do to people who violate the 3rd Commandment? The Bible says “Observe the Sabbath, because it is holy to you. Anyone who desecrates it is to be put to death; those who do any work on that day must be cut off from their people.” Exodus 31:14.

      • Rick

        People should read to understand from the beginning to the end of the story and understand that Jesus paid that price for them; for all of us. The assurance of forgiveness is only found in Jesus Christ and all of scripture points to that fact so that no one need confused by picking bits and pieces of scripture to suit their personal narrative

        • Tim Matter

          @Rick- You just confused me even more.
          Do we still need to obey the 10 Commandments or not?

          • DavetheInsomniac

            Of course we should… within the context of what God intended through them.

            For example… the 10 Commandments say “Thou shall not commit adultery.” However, Jesus makes clear that simply thinking lustfully about someone you’re not married to is adultery. The 10 Commandments call for us to honor our father and mother to be blessed, but Jesus points out that even honoring your father and mother under selfish motivations is sinful. The 10 Commandments call for us to honor the Sabbath and keep it holy, but Christ compels us to maintain our holiness throughout every day of our lives, regardless of whether it’s the 7th day or not. The 10 Commandments call for us to refrain from murder, but Jesus reminds us that anyone with hate in his/her heart has already murdered.

            Never once did Jesus lower the standards from the 10 Commandments… always, ALWAYS he raised them. Just because you don’t see it as harder doesn’t mean it isn’t so… it just means, as Paul wrote, that you have neither “eyes to see nor ears to hear.”

            What Rick is referring to (and what you obviously know, as an atheist troll) is that Christ came to be the forgiveness sacrifice for all who would believe in him. All have sinned, from the greatest of Christian theologians to the worst of the criminal element… of course the 10 Commandments should still be followed, to the strict understanding of the early church itself, but none of us can perfectly do so; we are fallen sinners. Christ’s sacrifice is the ONLY way to avoid the natural and correct consequence of hell that we ALL deserve.

            Keep lining them up, homie… I’m enjoying this.

          • Tim Matter

            You don’t know how many times I hear Christians try to argue that Jesus “fulfilled” the law so they don’t have to follow it any more. Then of course they pick which Old Testament laws they want to still apply to other people.

          • David Koontz

            I don’t believe anyone actually said that. I certainly know I didn’t.

            What I SAID, and I’ll repeat it so that you can see it twice, is this: “Never once did Jesus lower the standards from the 10 Commandments… always, ALWAYS he raised them. Just because you don’t see it as harder doesn’t mean it isn’t so… it just means, as Paul wrote, that you have neither ‘eyes to see nor ears to hear.'”

            Now, I assume by your little reference to “pick which OT laws they want to still apply to other people,” you’re of course referring to homosexual activity being sinful. Sadly, again you will find no weak opponent here.

            There are three different kinds of law as stated in the Old Testament: the Morality laws (the 10 commandments), the Covenant laws (tattoos, shellfish, beard length, thread type for clothing, etc) and Levitical laws (purification laws for priests alone).

            The 10 Commandments are reflections of right and wrong, of moral absolutes such as theft, murder, dishonesty, adultery, etc. Homosexual activity is adultery, no matter what the law says a marriage consists of: a man and a woman (yes, this includes pluralistic marriages between one man and more than one woman, though this is not a marriage as God intended it originally; each marriage is between a single man and a single woman, rather than one man and a group). Homosexual activity is a sin because it perverts and distorts the very nature and intention of sexual activity.

            Laws like the Covenant laws apply only to the Jewish people (and yes, the New Testament confirms this in Luke and Acts on more than one occasion). It showed them to be set apart from the rest of the world, and to avoid even the appearance of paganism or impropriety. Hence why they did things such as circumcision, etc. Finally, Levitical laws applied only to the tribe of Levi, or the priests of Israel… and the New Testament is positively RIFE with verses that describe Christ as the head of a superior priesthood that supersedes the Levitical priesthood, in the order of Melchizidek (look it up).

            Please, by all means… keep teeing them up: I’ll just keep knockin’ ’em down. You are trotting out all the tired, faux-intellectual atheistic anti Judeo-Christo theology arguments that have been easily debunked since the days of Paul. Don’t you have anything newer, more creative? You’re not going to cause others to sway with these tired old tactics, Satan.

            🙂

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        Christ is our sabbath …………….. any day is a sabbath if it is dedicated to the Lord ….. EVERY day is a sabbath if it is dedicated to the Lord ……….

        • DavetheInsomniac

          Tim loses, Amos wins. Way to shoot that claptrap down.

          • Tim Matter

            @Dave- Amos said “Christ is our sabbath”.
            What does that even mean? Can you quote the scripture that says that?

          • DavetheInsomniac

            There’s no four-word quote that reads exactly that, no.

            Nor does there HAVE to be. Repeatedly throughout the New Testament, Christ and his disciples are witnessed working on the Sabbath, whether it was to feed themselves or in service to others. Whenever the Pharisees tried to do what you’re doing now, using legalese to ensnare weak people, Jesus pointed out that He was LORD of the Sabbath, and that the Lord had established the Sabbath to force the people to remember the Lord’s holiness and His work in their lives. With Christ’s death, resurrection, and ascension came the Holy Spirit, a continuous companion and reminder of God’s sovereignty and holiness.

            So, nice try Tim. No one here is weak enough to fall for the devil’s words in your mouth. You are incapable of causing any of us to fall or doubt. While your mantra might well be “there is no God, and I hate Him,” we are not double-minded and are protected by the same Holy Spirit that came with acceptance of he who (and now I AM quoting scripture) is “Lord of the Sabbath.”

            Been fun. Feel free to keep wasting your time… with the Lord’s blessing, I will continue to use your elementary efforts at dissuasion to establish His core truth again and again. Just don’t make it too easy for me… I need an occasional challenge, lol.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Amen.

          • LynnRH

            LOL…..thank you DavetheInsomniac for saying what I’ve tried to say to these trolls. But you said it much better. I keep telling them they are wasting their time here because they are NOT going to be successful at causing a true believer to just stop believing.

          • Off Shore

            “Can you quote the scripture that says that?”

            Yes I can, Hebrews 4 specifically says that all that are saved in Christ Jesus have indeed entered “The Lord’s Rest”

            Other reading that may profit you include Mark 2:23-28

            You must understand that the OT points forward to the Glory of Christ and the NT points back to the Glory of Christ, exceptions are prophecy yet to come. This includes Sabbath’s, feasts, and the Tabernacle/Temple.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            😉

      • cadcoke5

        I will add some specific verses related to the topic.

        It is worth noting that in the N.T. all the 10 commands are quoted, or at least alluded to as being rules we must still live by… with one exception, the Sabbath.

        There seems to be a distinction between moral law, and the ceremonial and government laws in the N.T. The idea that there would be a new covenant coming from God is even predicted in the O.T.

        Jeremiah 31:31 New International Version (NIV)
        31 “The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah.”

        Jesus refers to the new covenant in Luke 22:10. But, he does emphasize that moral law is still in effect, and he not only limits sinful deeds, but even sin in our minds. Matt 5:21-48.

        However, things like the Sabbath, and how to structure government are in a different category. For example, we are no longer under command to keep the law of circumcision, Rom 2:25-29, Peter’s vision in Acts 10:9-15 has God showing Peter unclean food, and telling him to eat it. In John 8:1-11, Jesus does not follow criminal law given to Moses about how to sentence someone caught in adultery. Rather, he simply forgives the adulteress.

  • Vera Holmes

    Luke 16:23 – “And being in torments in Hades, he lifted up his eyes and saw Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.”

  • Vera Holmes

    Woe to those shepherds leading the sheep astray. Ezekiel 34

  • Vera Holmes

    “I Am He who lives, and was dead, and behold, I Am alive forevermore. Amen. And I have the keys of Hades and of Death.” Rev 1:18

  • Vera Holmes

    “So I looked, and behold, a pale horse and the name of him who sat on it was Death, and Hades followed with him.” Rev 6:8

  • This so called pastor is not a Christian but a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
    ——————–
    John 14:6 New King James Version (NKJV)
    6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.
    ——————
    Revelation 20 New King James Version (NKJV)
    Satan Bound 1,000 Years
    20 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a little while.
    The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years
    4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with Him a thousand years.
    Satanic Rebellion Crushed
    7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where[b] the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
    The Great White Throne Judgment
    11 Then I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God,[c] and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.[d] 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

  • Gena B

    This guy seriously thinks he is doing anything in God’s name? That’s insanity. Why would God call you to teach that his son died for nothing and no one? Being a Christian means more than believing in Christ, Satan does. It’s about believing him when he said, “no one comes to the Father but by me.” It’s recognizing that Christ died for the elect, not everyone. If you can’t have faith in scripture or Christ, then you have to wonder if he ever met him. He gives no water to those who are thirsty, but claims he has some.

  • Jennifer Crawford

    He’s as lost as they come. So sad. The worst part is he is leading others down the path to Hell with him.

  • James D Vaughn

    How in the world can a man preaching God say Christ is not the way. Scripture clearly affirms this. Jesus is the way, the Truth and the Light, no man can come to God except through Him!

  • Lee Garrett

    John 3:16-18 Tree of Life Version (TLV)
    16 “For God so loved the world that He gave His one and only Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 God did not send the Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through Him. 18 The one who believes in Him is not condemned; but whoever does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not put his trust in the name of the one and only Ben-Elohim.”

    “Condemned already” for lack of faith. I wonder if the good minister has ripped that out of his bible.

    John 14:6 Tree of Life Version (TLV)
    6 Yeshua said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life! No one comes to the Father except through Me.

    He talks a lot about inclusionary faith. He seems to forget that our lord said He is the way, the truth, and the life, and NO ONE can come to the father that doesn’t come through the son, for such a one is a thief and a robber, trying to break into a heaven that only comes by faith.

  • Recognizing_Truth

    Jesus said “I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one comes to the Father [God] but by Me”.(John 14:6).

    ” Whoever believes in him [Jesus] is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God’s one and only Son” (John 3:18)

    Hey! “pastor” Walrond! Jesus disagrees with you – there IS only one way to God, and that is through His Son, Jesus. And anyone that does not believe that – remains condemned (consigned to hell and the lake of fire).

    Dear members of the First Corinthian Baptist Church – you should re-read the Gospels AND the letters that Paul wrote, especially those he wrote to your namesake the Church at Corinth. Then REMOVE this imposter, this liar, from your midst and reject his false teaching.

  • Roy Veteto

    if the listeners believe that you don’t need jesus to go to heaven then why are they in church ? they could be doing something more enjoyable than hearing a boring speech..

  • thelordlives2011

    What is Insanity is when a stupid fool like him can become a Pastor of an Apostate Church.

    • Adam Valentine

      Stupid fool? This coming from someone that puts his faith in a book of fairy tales passed down by illiterate sand people.

  • Ronda O’Bryant

    The tares are definitely in the church! This is so bad and wrong and this man is leading so many astray with this false teaching!

  • robert boe

    If Your good or bad is no great concern of mine,as a evil life lived does no permanent harm to any one but it self in the end. What concerns me greatly as a Doctor of Christian theology is evil doctrine because it is the worst thing of all and can send a host of souls to hell. Dr. And Christian church Reformer and Lutheran pastor Martin Luther.

  • robert boe

    If you listen to Dr Moody la la land after death exsperiancesnstead of the bible about hell

  • robert boe

    Luke 16:19-31 the bible never says this account is a parable parables do not give the people in them names ! Parables are earthly stories with heavenly meanings this does not fit that its heaven and hell account . Jesus knew about the people in this real account because of his omniscience

  • robert boe

    The bible says Jesus did take away the sins of the whole world not just our sin .the pastor has that part right ! Jesus saving work his perfect life and innocent death on the cross was for all people .The pastor has that right.. Where the pastor is wrong is .. God does wants every one to have faith in Jesus merits alone so they can receive what Jesus won for them heaven and eternal life with Jesus .but many want no part of believing in Jesus there stiffed necked its there own fault .because Jesus says he wanted to gather them like a hen gathers her chicks but they were not willing Jesus says . Jesus saved them won for them heaven to but they refuse to believe in Jesus . God does not force his Son his highest best treasure on any one . you dont believe in Jesus winning forgivness and heaven for you to. Gods not going to force belief in Jesus perfect work for you ,on you.

  • robert boe

    Yes people do go to hell even though Jesus won them eternal lifen in heaven and forgivness to ..if they do not want any part of Jesus and refuse to believe it. After death there only two places to put you either with Jesus in Heaven or satan in hell .and Gods not going to force his beloved Son on you…you instead will get what you deserve! And believers will get what they “dont ” deserve Heaven!

  • Paladin Roy

    ===============================================================
    Walrond said. “And if God cannot bring us closer together, then something is wrong—not with God, but in how we think we know God and understand God .”
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    Step 3. of freemasonry “aa” … Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God AS WE UNDERSTOOD “him”. !!!?? … But atheists do not believe God even exists, yet they say “him”. … Who “him” ???

    Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding. .. Proverbs 3:5

    Hosea 13:1 ¶When Ephraim spake trembling, he exalted himself in Israel; but when he offended in Baal, he died.

    !!! 2 And now they sin more and more, and have made them molten images of their silver, and idols according to their own understanding, all of it the work of the craftsmen: they say of them, Let the men that sacrifice kiss the calves.

    3 Therefore they shall be as the morning cloud, and as the early dew that passeth away, as the chaff that is driven with the whirlwind out of the floor, and as the smoke out of the chimney.

    4 Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.

  • JesusisReal

    And this is AN EXAMPLE of why Hollywood is making a mockery of Christians! ANYONE can be a Christian preacher in this century! There’s no screening and they are at liberty to say ANYTHING with an assurance that they’re blind flock will continue to follow and drop a dollar in the basket!

  • Clive Johnson

    I tend to agree with Walrond.

    • LynnRH

      I agree with God.

  • SolontheWise

    What kind of a god brings billions of people into the world, knowing full well he purposes to endlessly torment most of them? By definition, he is a god of hate, not love.
    Hell, or Hel, is the Norse goddess of the underworld, a mistranslation of the Hebrew sheol, its Greek counterpart hades, and two other Greek words, Tartarus and Gehenna, none of which means a place of endless torture.
    Apostate Christendom is under the spell of the RCC’s unscriptural Athanasian Creed – you must believe in a mysterious trinity of co-equal “persons” by an act of so-called free will or be tortured for eternity – by the god of love yet! What a monstrous evil god!
    Our Christ-commissioned apostle Paul gave us “the ideal teaching” (I Timothy 4:6) and it does not include a mysterious trinity of “persons,” free will, or endless torment for unbelievers. Paul’s teaching does include the ultimate reconciliation of all humanity to God through Christ. Please see atruergod dot com.

    • LynnRH

      “What kind of a god brings billions of people into the world knowing full well he purposes to endlessly torment most of them?”

      A just and Righteous God of the Holy Bible whom gives us human beings fair warning and does not want anyone to perish but WILL NOT allow sin into Heaven! That kind of God. The kind of God that sent His precious and perfect Son to earth to live amongst us and teach us about His Holy Father and the promise of Eternal Life. The same God that send His precious and perfect Son to suffer and die a cruel, cruel death only to rise alive again 3 days later to show us nit-wit, ignorant, stubborn-willed human beings that He is Lord, Savior, Messiah, Christ, Master, Lamb of God, Jehovah, Almighty One, the Alpha and Omega and all the other names too many to mention here. That kind of God.

      • SolontheWise

        It’s not that He doesn’t “want anyone to perish.” He “WILLS that all mankind be saved and come into a realization of the truth” (I Timothy 2:4). Let’s put the will of God that all mankind be saved up against the will of an “ignorant, stubborn-willed human” who rejects God. Whose will do you think will prevail?
        As to not allowing “sin into heaven,” have you heard of the “spiritual forces of wickedness among the celestials” (Ephesians 6:12) who are there now?
        But you sidestep the issue. Your god cannot be good and loving if he purposes to punish finite sins committed by humans with infinite torture. There is nothing more unjust than that. atruergod dot com.

    • LynnRH

      don’t need to see a truergod dot com. Only need to read God’s Holy Word called the Bible.