Trump on 60 Minutes: Same-Sex Marriage ‘Settled’ and ‘I’m Fine With That’

trump-60-minutes-compressedPresident-elect Donald Trump told CBS’ “60 Minutes” this past week that he believes the issue of same-sex “marriage” has been “settled” by the U.S. Supreme Court and that he is “fine with that.”

The interview, which aired Sunday night, included a variety of topics, such as immigration, abortion and the protests following the election.

“One of the groups that’s expressing fear are (sic) the LGBTQ group,” interviewer Leslie Stahl stated, referring to concerns from homosexual groups that Trump might null and void their nuptials.

“And yet I mentioned them at the Republican National Convention,” Trump interjected.

“You did,” Stahl agreed.

“Everybody said, ‘That was so great.’ I have been, you know, I’ve been a supporter,” Trump said.

Stahl then asked Trump about his personal views on same-sex “marriage,” but he declined to divulge.

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“I guess the issue for them is marriage equality. Do you support marriage equality?” she inquired.

“It’s irrelevant because it was already settled,” Trump replied. “It’s law. It was settled in the Supreme Court. I mean it’s done.”

“So even if you appoint a judge that—,” Stahl interjected, alluding to the possibility of overturning Obergefell.

“It’s done,” Trump stated. “These cases have gone to the Supreme Court. They’ve been settled. And I’m fine with that.”

As previously reported, last month, Trump held up a rainbow “LGBT’s for Trump” flag at the start of a campaign rally in Colorado after being handed the banner by a homosexual supporter. His campaign website also made available for purchase “LGBTQ for Trump” t-shirts and pins.

Trump had additionally declared at a fundraiser in June that he is the best candidate for the “gay community,” and in February, he replied in the affirmative when asked by a lesbian reporter if the nation can expect “more forward motion” on homosexual issues if elected president.

In regard to abortion, Trump advised that he still plans on appointing pro-life justices, but said it was too soon to say what the result might be.

“[I]f it (Roe v. Wade) ever were overturned, it would go back to the states,” he said.

“Yeah, but then some women won’t be able to get an abortion?” Stahl asked.

“No, it’ll go back to the states,” Trump replied.

He said that if abortion then becomes illegal in one state, that “they’ll perhaps have to go to another state.”

“And that’s okay?” Stahl asked.

“Well, we’ll see what happens,” Trump stated. “It’s got a long way to go, just so you understand. That has a long, long way to go.”

Trump had outlined before the election that he intends on appointing a Supreme Court justice like the late Antonin Scalia.

“I will strike down Roe v. Wade, but I will also strike down a law that is the opposite of Roe v. Wade,” Scalia outlined in a 2002 Pew Forum. “You know, both sides in that debate want the Supreme Court to decide the matter for them. One [side] wants no state to be able to prohibit abortion and the other one wants every state to have to prohibit abortion, and they’re both wrong.”

“And indeed, there are anti-abortion people who think that the Constitution requires a state to prohibit abortion. They say that the equal protection clause requires that you treat a helpless human being that’s still in the womb the way you treat other human beings. I think that’s wrong,” Scalia further explained in a 2008 60 Minutes interview. “I think when the Constitution says that persons are entitled to equal protection of the laws, I think it clearly means walking-around persons.”


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  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Politicians’ irresponsibility as usual. It seems a long winter is ahead. Truth-upholding is up to Christian individuals and every church in America. May the Lord have mercy on America.

    • Matt Solomon

      How does it hurt you if gays get married, exactly? By your belief, they’ll just go to hell. Why should it bother you? Let your god do the judging.

      • Darrell Cardwell

        The problem is not homosexuality….That has been around forever! The problem is the federal government should not have the right to make every person accept it. It should be a state law so if those people don’t like the state law then they should go to a state that approves of their lifestyle and their equality. Just like the Civil War this is a states’ rights issue.

        • Michael C

          The problem is the federal government should not have the right to make every person accept it.

          You don’t have to “accept” anyone else’s marriage if you don’t want to. Your acceptance is not a requirement of their civil contract.

          It should be a state law so if those people don’t like the state law then they should go to a state that approves of their lifestyle and their equality.

          ..So, like, if someone gets transferred to another state by their employer, they automatically lose their spouse and possibly even their children?

          Or if a family is on a road trip and they get into a car accident and one spouse winds up in the hospital in a different state, they lose all of their rights as a married couple?

          Do you think it was better back when states had the ability to make up their own laws restricting interracial couples from marrying? …because that’s what you’re advocating. State’s rights to make their own decision on marriage, correct?

        • johndoe

          You dont have to accept anything

        • Matt Solomon

          Tagging on to Michael C’s response, which is really much more in-depth than mine: Discrimination (and enforcing unequal rights between individuals of different classes is discrimination) is a federal question. Your method would allow states to treat homosexuals as second class citizens.

          If you believe, even a little bit, in the principals laid out by the Constitution, you would see how a state by state approach would be entirely unjust.

        • http://www.slowlyboiledfrog.com/ David Cary Hart

          It might shock you but we neither seek nor require anyone’s “approval.” We don’t have to. Moreover, a sexual orientation is not a “lifestyle.” I am a retired CEO. My late partner was VP of a media company. Our lifestyle was defined by would we did for a living rather than what we did in bed.

          But that’s all reactive. Full faith and credit is an important part of the American democracy. The very notion that some people can be married if they live in some states and then not married if they relocate to another state is antithetical to our Constitution and our values.

          • Amos Moses

            “It might shock you but we neither seek nor require anyone’s “approval.” ”

            WOW ………. do you keep a straight face when you say that ……….. that is ALL homosexuals do ………….

          • Steak&Quiche

            Um, no, granny, you spend way too much time on Christian blogs, so that “We don’t want your approval” line is an obvious lie.

            You’re obsessed with Christians, Get some help for your OCD, medications are available.

          • Liberal Elitist

            It would seem Christians are obsessed with homosexuals.

          • Steak&Quiche

            Nope.
            Just the opposite.
            Hating Christians obviously fills an emotional need for you people.
            You’re lonely and angry.

          • Liberal Elitist

            “Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty.”

          • Mr Cleats

            “Bored homosexuals got no life at all.”

        • Liberal Elitist

          There’s always Russia.

          • Amos Moses

            Coming from another National Socialist ………….

          • johndoe

            LOL!

        • Grace Kim Kwon

          Exactly! It’s what is so strange about the liberal whites and their mental slaves who demand the world to treat the sinful living as human marriage this century, which is absolutely against the Holy Bible and against the clear human conscience and sanity. Neo-Nazism is on the rise in the West requiring the world to accept the abnormal immorality. Secular Western culture is such a naked emperor whom Hans Christian Andersen had described before. It’s a new kind of slavery by forcing of falsehood. The West has lost its wits by applying racial equality upon sexual immorality.

          Whoever had imagined this kind of abuse? It’s disasterous when the rich people get bored. They always oppress the poor in heinous warped ways when there are nothing else to do. I pray for God’s justice on Sodomic West for the sake of Western children. It’s such a disgrace as a human being to bow to the West’s nudist homosexual notion on Planet Earth. People have rights to declaring God’s truth and living out morality and normality. We must fight to the end. No submission to Western pervs. Never again. This madness must get stopped. May our God help American Christians.

          • johndoe

            You arent American and don’t live here. You don’t have a dog in this fight. You shoukd be worrying about yourself and your country. America will never be the theocracy you want it to be. Stop insulting others as it shows your overt hypocrisy.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            America influences all nations. Fix the root. And USA is the last stronghold of the truth with outspoken Christians. Stop bullying people online. USA is a Christian theocracy as her founding documents and anthems declare. The West has no life apart from Christianity.

          • johndoe

            Stop insulting Americans and quit whining. The west has everything apart from christianity.

          • Grace Kim Kwon

            Americans were great only because they were Christian. The West is nothing apart from Christianity as man is nothing apart from his conscience and intelligence.

          • johndoe

            America is comprised of many faiths and no religion is needed to be an American. Your posts are foolish and based on lies

          • Amos Moses

            “The west has everything apart from christianity.”

            including National Socialism …….. be proud ………

          • johndoe

            So?

          • Amos Moses

            WOW … again …. RACISM and NATIONALISM ……. wonderful traits of the National Socialist Party …………. bravo and thank you for revealing yourself ……..

          • johndoe

            Sure, whatever you say…yawwwwn,,,,

          • Amos Moses

            National Socialist …….

          • johndoe

            Zzzzzzz……

    • johndoe

      Nope. No reason not to let the gay community have the same rights as the rest of America

      • Amos Moses

        They had the same …. they wanted more ………

        • Liberal Elitist

          You seem confused. Before the U.S. Supreme Court’s Obergefell decision, same-sex marriage was not legal nationwide.

          • Amos Moses

            marriage was available to every man and woman…. and all on the same basis…. it was completely equal …

          • Liberal Elitist

            Nope, at that time legal marriage was only available to heterosexuals. Legal marriage was not available to homosexuals nationwide.

          • Amos Moses

            Bullroar ………….. they had the EXACT SAME RIGHT …….. there was no difference …. it was equal protection under the law ……… there was nothing stopping homosexuals from marrying just the EXACT SAME WAY everyone else was …………. you are a LIAR ……..

          • Liberal Elitist

            Horse droppings. Same-sex marriage was not legal nationwide until the U.S. Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional the few remaining state bans on same-sex marriage, just as the U.S. Supreme Court in 1967 struck down as unconstitutional the few remaining state bans on interracial opposite-sex marriage.

          • Amos Moses

            it is not a marriage ……. it does not meet the definition of a marriage …….. it is a lie and you are a liar propagating a lie ………… and if they wanted to get married ….. it was available to them ……..

          • Liberal Elitist

            Yep, same-sex marriages ARE marriages.

            Nope, gay couples could not legally marry nationwide until after the U.S. Supreme Court struck down as unconstitutional the few remaining state bans on same-sex marriage.

          • Amos Moses

            Nope …. they do not meet the definition of a marriage ……… lie to yourself all you want …… but do not expect anyone else to buy your lie …… if they do then they are fools and they deserve what follows from believing a lie …….

            the “constitution” is not the arbiter of truth and neither is SCOTUS …….

          • Liberal Elitist

            In fact, the U.S. Constitution IS the arbiter, and the U.S. Supreme Court interprets the U.S. Constitution. We are ALL governed by civil law.

            I’m delighted to have had the opportunity for this constructive exchange in the marketplace of ideas.

            Additionally, in time, you’ll get used to the idea.

          • Amos Moses

            “In fact, the U.S. Constitution IS the arbiter, and the U.S. Supreme Court interprets the U.S. Constitution”

            all of which has absolutely nothing to do with the truth …… and if they want to rule with lies ….. then they have given up their authority to do either ………

          • james blue

            And what has changed? Do they not have the EXACT SAME RIGHTS now? Do they now have a special right we do not have?

          • Amos Moses

            They have made a lie out of the truth ……….. that is not law ….. it is corruption of law ……. and it is lying to the public in general ……….. it is not a right ….. it is a lie ………….

          • james blue

            Again, I get that you don’t like it, but that’s not what you are being asked.

          • Amos Moses

            again ………. no you do not get it ………… my likes ….. are not relevant ……DA …….

          • james blue

            If it’s relevance then the law Trumps all. Gay marriage is legal.

            However you still haven’t answered what “right” gays have that we do not because they can now marry each other.

          • Amos Moses

            Nope …. the “law” does not trump truth ……….. and your question is a red herring and deserves no answer … it is irrelevant ….. it is not a “right” …. it is a lie ……….

          • Jenny Ondioline

            So you’re saying that you’re OK with homosexuals getting married to people of the opposite sex, whom they cannot possibly be in love with or form relationships with BECAUSE THEY ARE HOMOSEXUALS?

          • Amos Moses

            sorry ………. there is nothing in the law about anyone “being in love” to get married ………… nor is it a component of being married …… but lets turn your screed around ….. heterosexuals getting married to people of the same sex, whom they cannot possibly be in love with or form relationships with BECAUSE THEY ARE HETEROSEXUALS? ……….. yeah …. makes no sense whatsoever ……….. no one says they have to get married …… your argument is a red herring and has not one thing to do with anything …… and if homosexuals want to get married ….. then no one ever stopped them from getting REALLY married ……. HOMOSEXUAL or NOT …………

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Getting married is a voluntary thing, and you do it because you are committing yourself to another person which tends to mean being in love. Marriage existed long before Christianity did so you don’t get to impose your own rules on it.

          • Amos Moses

            marriage is not a coming together of a mirror image of yourself ………. that is just self love and a lie …”Marriage existed long before Christianity did so you don’t get to impose your own rules on it.” ….. and you do not get to redefine it just to fit your idea of what it has been FOR MILLENNIA …….. either it has rules …… or your rules are no better and have NO EFFECT either ……. just because you think you are smarter than everyone ever ………. got news for you …… YOU AINT …………

          • Jenny Ondioline

            “Marriage is not a coming together of a mirror image of yourself”. I never said any such thing. Marrying a person of the same gender isn’t a mirror image of anything. And I am not redefining it. It’s a bonding of two people. It’s you who is putting rules on who those two people are. It wasn’t that long ago that Christianity was OK with polygamy. Anyway you don’t speak on behalf of God, you speak on behalf of the rules you happen to like.

          • Amos Moses

            “Marrying a person of the same gender isn’t a mirror image of anything. ”

            YES ….. it is …………. a man and a man or a woman and a woman ….. is just a mirror image ….. and that is NOT a marriage …………. “And I am not redefining it. It’s a bonding of two people” … YES …. that is redefining it …. a marriage is A MAN AND A WOMAN …… “It wasn’t that long ago that Christianity was OK with polygamy.” …. NOPE …. That was man AGAIN redefining marriage ….. just as you are trying to do now …… and still so WRONG …….

            “Anyway you don’t speak on behalf of God” …….. AND NEITHER DO YOU …………..

          • Jenny Ondioline

            No, a person does not become a “mirror image” merely because they are the same gender as someone else. If that’s really the logic you’re trying to use here you should probably stop it before you even get started. We are human beings and we fall in love with separate, distinct human beings. And that is regardless of orientation.

            A marriage is a coming together of two people or things. Period.

            There was polygamy in the Bible, so are you still going to try to tell me it’s “man” defining it?

            And if your definition of marriage is so perfect how do you explain the high divorce rate?

            I am not attempting to speak for God. You are.

          • Amos Moses

            “No, a person does not become a “mirror image” merely because they are the same gender as someone else.”

            Yes ….. there is no common ground for procreation ….. the only real reason for marriage is the propagation of the species …….. and anything outside of that is just garbage …… self-centered nonsense and rebellion …………

          • Jenny Ondioline

            There doesn’t NEED to be common ground for procreation. You might elect not to have children even if you are in a straight relationship. All there needs to be is common ground, period. Two people who love each other and enjoy each other’s company. I am surprised that you as a Christian have to have this explained to you.

            Using your logic, the elderly and infertile should be denied the right to marry. Fortunately, it is not a prerequisite to getting married.

          • Amos Moses

            there is no procreation between two MIRROR images ………. there is no “common ground” outside of that …………

            “Using your logic, the elderly and infertile should be denied the right to marry.”

            NOPE ……….. that is using YOUR ILLogic ….. there is no “common ground” …… my logic is that TWO MIRROR IMAGES of each other is NOT a marriage ………. there is no procreation even possible ……..

          • Jenny Ondioline

            You keep calling them mirror images but for no reason. Unless you are referring to their appearances, which apart from procreation is irrelevant.

            It’s also very odd that you would accuse me of using “man made” rules for marriage when you are the one stating they must procreate for the marriage to be valid. That is not a condition for marriage anywhere in the world. It is simply YOUR man made rule.

          • Amos Moses

            i keep calling two people of the same sex mirror images because that is what they are ….. there is no appreciable difference ………. “”man made” rules for marriage when you are the one stating they must procreate for the marriage to be valid.” … not what i said …. but the purpose of coming together is to procreate …… and marriage is the protection of the fruit of procreation ….. and since mirror images do not procreate …… they are not entitled ……. they have no vested interest in any protection of fruits of procreation ………. it is a NULL set …….

          • Jenny Ondioline

            So what is the appreciable difference in people, then, when it’s a straight couple and when it’s a homosexual couple? Are you talking about personalities, or interchangeable body parts? If it’s the former, you’re lying, and if it’s the latter, it doesn’t matter because people fall in love due to compatible personalities as well as physical attraction.

            As I already pointed out to you, if coming together to procreate is the only reason for a marriage to be legitimate, then you have excluded the infertile as well as the elderly. You can’t have it both ways. You would never tell an infertile couple they were ineligible to get married for ANY reason. NO ONE would.

          • Amos Moses

            you are speaking a different language ….. you use many of the same words in English ….. but the meanings of the words you use are not standard and of your own making …… a bastardized version of English …… the bastardized words you use are “love”, “couple”, married”, and this is a post modern affliction ………… the words are not as you and many others have redefined them ….. and all it does is cause confusion …….. and therefore your thoughts on any subject is confused ……

            “it doesn’t matter because people fall in love due to compatible personalities as well as physical attraction.”

            but it does matter …. the purpose of sex is procreation ….. without it we do not have a continued existence as a species …… this is a separate function from marriage …. but you want to combine the two as if it has only one meaning ……. and you are wrong …..

            “You would never tell an infertile couple they were ineligible to get married for ANY reason.”

            and at least here you are partially right ….. but no one knows who is and who is not “fertile” ….. i know a woman who was declared infertile and she was a Gravida 21, Para 0 but then had a child ….. numerous women seemingly past the age of conception have had children …… so science aside ….. they do not know one thing and at best it is a guess …. but the surprising statistic is: heterosexuals —– BILLIONS of births …… Homosexuals —– ZERO …… NO POSSIBILITY …………. (ok, no surprise at all) …………

            The purpose of marriage is to protect the fruit of HETEROSEXUAL UNIONS due to BIRTHS …… HOMOSEXUALS …………. got nothing to protect ………… they perform no function to a society to perpetuate a society and do everything to DESTROY a society ……… how is it they deserve anything of a marriage when they have done nothing to be in a marriage ……

          • Jenny Ondioline

            None of what you said is based in reality. People can get married even when they don’t plan to have children – if you say otherwise you’re just trying to enforce your own rule.

            “Love”, “couple” and “married” are all words that people who get married have in common. And have ALWAYS had in common. Look into it sometime.

            Homosexuals can’t procreate but they can fall in love. Same with the elderly. Same with the infertile. Having children is not necessary to marriage. Period.

            The purpose of marriage is not “to protect the fruit of heterosexual unions”. You made that up. I doubt you could find a single source that makes a statement like that. Heterosexual unions require no protection as there is nothing threatening them.

          • Amos Moses

            “Having children is not necessary to marriage. ”

            And i said that ….. if you have trouble parsing then you should have someone read it to you AGAIN ….. but the only purpose to marriage is the PROTECTION OF THE OFFSPRINGS RIGHTS ……

            ” “Love”, “couple” and “married” are all words that people who get married have in common. And have ALWAYS had in common.”

            NOPE ……. most marriages when the idea of marriage came to be …. WERE ARRANGED marriages ….. and it had NOTHING to do with love …… that is a fairly modern idea ………… see … different language and definitions and confusion ……. your definitions of those words are ALTERED to fit your agenda ………

            “The purpose of marriage is not “to protect the fruit of heterosexual unions. You made that up.”

            The anthropological handbook Notes and Queries (1951) defined marriage as “a union between a man and a woman such that children born to the woman are the recognized legitimate offspring of both partners.”

            Further ……… on the purpose of marriage ……… all having to do with offspring and property to chose offspring …….

            To establish a legal father of a woman’s children.
            To establish a legal mother of a man’s children.
            To give the husband a monopoly in the wife’s sexuality.
            To give the wife a monopoly in the husband’s sexuality.
            To give the husband partial or monopolistic rights to the wife’s domestic and other labour services.
            To give the wife partial or monopolistic rights to the husband’s domestic and other labour services.
            To give the husband partial or total control over property belonging or potentially accruing to the wife.
            To give the wife partial or total control over property belonging or potentially accruing to the husband.
            To establish a joint fund of property – a partnership – for the benefit of the children of the marriage.
            To establish a socially significant ‘relationship of affinity’ between the husband and his wife’s brothers.”

            “Heterosexual unions require no protection as there is nothing threatening them.”

            Bastardization of the term marriage DOES ………….. AGAIN …. using the same words but REDEFINING the word to your agenda ………..

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Marriage is not for the “protection” of anything. It’s a union of two people. It is unrelated to offspring, and the nice thing here is how easy you’ve made it to show you how wrong you are – all I need to do is point out any childless couple who are doing very well in their marriage. I could probably find 100 of them in the next hour without even leaving my street. That doesn’t just make you wrong, that makes you wrong on a shameful level.

            If you’re saying that the arranged version of marriage, where two strangers who don’t love each other are thrown together to procreate, I would suggest to you that you have bigger fish to fry than to attack homosexual couples who DO love one another. Who has the real “agenda” here Amos? Me, who’s pushing for a voluntary marriage based on love, or you who are interested only in making it a joyless, loveless, baby-producing factory?

            Not really in what some book from 1951’s opinion on marriage is. Marriage has nothing to do with “protection” from homosexuals. How ridiculous.

          • Amos Moses

            “Marriage is not for the “protection” of anything. It’s a union of two people”

            NOPE ……..

            “Not really in what some book from 1951’s opinion on marriage is. ”

            Yep …. because you have no interest in how it is defined …. you are only interested in your post modern REDEFINING of it to suit your agenda …. and sorry Charlene ……… just like i do not get to interpret the bible to suit me ….. you do not get to REDEFINE the language to suit you and your agenda ……

            CANT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS ………….

          • Jenny Ondioline

            You don’t seem to be gracious in the face of defeat. Your ideas of
            what marriage should be are not how things are in the real world.
            Homosexuals can marry, and it’s entirely legal for them to do so. Your ideas – I can’t even call them Christian – things like people marrying only for purposes of procreation, are not grounded in reality in any way.

            You can keep wishing, but the real world is the real world and it’s the only one we’ve got.

          • Amos Moses

            No …. i am not going to concede the truth to the lie the world embraces…. has nothing to do with grace …. has to do with what is a lie and what is the truth ….

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Well, it is entirely your decision to live outside of the reality the rest of us live in.

          • Amos Moses

            you live in a pseudo-reality of your own making outside of truth … have fun in there …..

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Pseudo-reality huh. Two people of the same sex can walk into the J of P in my city and get married legally. Nothing pseudo about it.

          • Amos Moses

            It is psuedo-reality because it is based on a lie …… and you are welcome to it ……

          • Jenny Ondioline

            It’s based on something you happen not to like, that doesn’t make it a lie.

          • Amos Moses

            i do not like lies ….. so sure ….. and you are right ….. it does not make it a lie …… but it is a lie no less ………….. and just because you like it …… does not make it any less so ……

          • Kyler Phoenix

            What lies Sandi?

          • Jenny Ondioline

            If it’s a lie, you should have no problem proving it – WITHOUT resorting to your opinion. Go right ahead.

          • Amos Moses

            Homosexuals do nothing to create society …….. so it is not “good and natural and normal” ………. it destroys society ……. society is perpetuated by adding new members …… they can never add anything ………

          • Jenny Ondioline

            If you cannot procreate you are not destroying society. You simply aren’t put here to create more of the species. But plenty of other people are so there is no problem.

          • Amos Moses

            Nope ……. because that life style encourages others to be in rebellion ….. and the homosexuals and there fellow supporters expect everyone to support them and their choice …… it does not stop at not procreating …… it keeps going ……

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Does your relationship encourage anyone else, rebellion or otherwise?
            I can’t think of a single relationship someone else is having with their partner, gay or straight alike, that’s “encouraging” anyone else. So I don’t know what you’re talking about.

          • Amos Moses

            i am not in rebellion …….. homosexuals are …. and so are you when you encourage their rebellion …………..

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Falling in love with another person is not rebellion. If you’d ever been in love, you’d know that.

          • Amos Moses

            Again ….. Take a number of homosexuals, both sexes, put the males on one island, put the females on another island ……..give them anything they want or desire ….. deprive them of nothing ….. but they cannot leave and they cannot have the opposite sex …… come back in 60 years …… nothing will be left …….. society DIES ……….
            No opinion ……. all they would produce is death ………. and you do not actually have to do it ….. you know what the result will be ….. DEATH ………

          • Jenny Ondioline

            The same exact thing happens when you take all the straight people in this world and do the same thing, males on one island, females on the other, everyone dies. So bad example.

          • Amos Moses

            Sure …. but that is not the point …… because you see …… if it is only about who you love … then the homosexual males get what they want ….. and the lesbians get what they want ….. and heterosexuals that want the opposite and would get what they want …… and if you come back in 60 years …. all the homosexuals will be dead ….. and the heteros would have a surviving society ….. DEATH of a society is not love ……….. and BTW ….. you are the one here arguing against that science and common sense …………

          • Jenny Ondioline

            I haven’t argued against science, nor would I ever. I’m arguing for human decency. Because in this world there are homosexual people, and you’re denying the fact that they love each other exactly as straight people do, and you’re arguing against their union because you say God forbids it and because it doesn’t result in offspring. In all of history no one has pushed for society to move to 100% homosexuality and even if such a thing happened the population would not die out because of things like artificial insemination.

            It just seems cruel to me in the extreme that you don’t acknowledge the simple fact that homosexuality exists and nothing can be done to change that fact.

          • Amos Moses

            “I haven’t argued against science, nor would I ever.” …….. obviously you think that males having children with males is not against science …….. WRONG ………

            ” I’m arguing for human decency. ” ………. destroying a society has nothing to do with “human decency” ………..

            “and you’re denying the fact that they love each other exactly as straight people do” …. right because it is not an act of love to destroy a society …………

            “you’re arguing against their union because you say God forbids it and because it doesn’t result in offspring.” ………. nope ………. not having offspring destroys a society and is an abomination …….. any male and any female can have children ….. two men or two women CANNOT ………. EVER …………….. and that is AGAINST SCIENCE AND COMMON SENSE ………

          • Amos Moses

            Take a number of homosexuals, both sexes, put the males on one island, put the females on another island ……..give them anything they want or desire ….. deprive them of nothing ….. but they cannot leave and they cannot have the opposite sex …… come back in 60 years …… nothing will be left …….. society DIES ……….

            No opinion ……. all they would produce is death ………. and you do not actually have to do it ….. you know what the result will be ….. DEATH ………

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Yeah, and? Tell me who you know that is advocating for people to be 100% homosexual all the time?

          • Amos Moses

            does not have to be …. it demonstrates the outcome ………. DEATH ……….

          • Jenny Ondioline

            Life demonstrates death, Amos. Not homosexuality.

          • Amos Moses

            Wrong ………. nothing comes of homosexuality but death …. they bring no life ….. just death ………..

          • Jenny Ondioline

            They enjoy their lives on earth just as much as you do. The fact they don’t create more puts them in the same category as many other people.

          • Amos Moses

            marriage is not a coming together of a mirror image of yourself ………. that is just self love and a lie …”Marriage existed long before Christianity did so you don’t get to impose your own rules on it.” ….. and you do not get to redefine it just to fit your idea of what it has been FOR MILLENNIA …….. either it has rules …… or your rules are no better and have NO EFFECT either ……. just because you think you are smarter than everyone ever ………. got news for you …… YOU AINT …………

          • johndoe

            Nope

          • Amos Moses

            YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!………………………….

        • james blue

          What right do gays have that you and I do not?

          • Amos Moses

            they had the exact same right to marry ….

          • james blue

            Okay, what right do they have NOW that gay marriage is legal that we do not?

          • Amos Moses

            what they have is not marriage ………… but they have a state sanctioned LIE that it is somehow equal …… and it is YOU lying to them that it is the same ……….. when CLEARLY it is NOT …………. so good job lying to them ……….

          • james blue

            And you cannot legally enter into the same state sanctioned “lie” yourself because….?

          • Amos Moses

            Marriage is not coming together with an image of yourself ….. it is not complimentary ….. it is a lie ….. i reject lies ……….. and “legal” does not mean moral ……… a lie is a lie no matter who sanctions it ………

          • james blue

            You said they had the same rights, they wanted more. You don’t have to tell me you are against gay marriage, I already know that, what I’m asking you is what right they have now that gay marriage is legal that we do not.

            I realize you are never going to answer that question, but hey, news is slow since the elections.

        • johndoe

          And?

          • Amos Moses

            DUH?

          • johndoe

            So?

          • Amos Moses

            So? what ya gotta say ………

          • johndoe

            And?

    • Biscuit

      It is funny how the extreme Christians were voting for Trump so that they could have the ability to hate and discriminate. Too bad for you that President Trump will probably do even more to help the LGBTQ than President Obama; and President Obama did many great things for us. Your prayers keep getting answered, you just don’t like the answer you are getting.

      • Ira Pistos

        @Biscuit-
        Your assertion:
        “It is funny how the extreme Christians were voting for Trump so that they could have the ability to hate and discriminate.”

        By extreme, I’m going to assume that you mean devout. God fearing.

        Nobody voted for Trump to acquire the ability to hate and discriminate. That capacity was either already possessed or it wasn’t.

        Christians, if they voted for Trump, did so to stop key elements of the democratic platform including such items as strong support child murder and unholy unions.
        If they voted for Trump it was likely also to gain justices on the supreme court in an effort to halt progressive Godlessness.

  • johndoe

    This is quite the slap in the face for those who thought he would repeal marriage equality! Good answer Mr President.

    • Patriot

      Old woman

      • johndoe

        LOL!

  • Amos Moses

    Anyone surprised ….. not me ………….

    • Biscuit

      Are you trying to make fun of black people by using the picture you chose next to your user name?

      • Amos Moses

        are you a racist ………….. otherwise why would you say such a thing …. and what does my race have to do with anything ….. UNLESS YOU ARE A RACIST …………… the picture is of Edmund Lincoln ‘Rochester’ Anderson (September 18, 1905 – February 28, 1977) was an American comedian and actor …… SJWs are just racists by another name ……….

        • Biscuit

          I think it was a bad choice since you probably are a white man. Mr. Anderson obviously was trying to be funny when the picture was taken. And no, I am NOT a racist; just curious about your selection.

          • Amos Moses

            “since you probably are a white man”

            so a racist conclusion from a person who claims to NOT be a racist ……… Got it ……… because a black man could not possible say what i say and believe what i believe ……….. RACIST big time ………… because i do not fit into your racist paradigm ….. why …………..

            BTW, …….

            Questions Blacks Have For SJW’s
            youtube;com/watch?v=x_WinXlct9s – Replace the ; with a .

          • Liberal Elitist

            He knows exactly what he’s doing and actually takes pride in it … and he knows that you know.

          • Amos Moses

            ummm …… you are another closet racist ….. and you think you fool people …….

    • ISA41:10

      Yes!

  • Harry Oh!

    Alas, one can’t have everything. We denied Hillary, and Trump has a lot of things right, but he’s a wimp on the LGBT movement unfortunately. If he had a real pair of kahunas, he would have homosexuality re-classified as pathology, which it so clearly is. But he has Pence and the Supreme Court nominees which could make this happen. So, there’s still a chance that we could get normalcy back into our upside down society.

    • Michael C

      If he had a real pair of kahunas, he would have homosexuality re-classified as pathology

      Science is not subject to partisan political policy.

      • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Indeed it is not. 🙂

      • Harry Oh!

        The recent John Hopkins University study squashes the myth of science accounting for sexual disorientation. That real science, but people like you don’t wanna hear it.

        • Michael C

          That meta-analysis of previously existing research doesn’t show what you seem to think it does.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Oh the irony! 🙂

        • johndoe

          Now that is ridiculous. Such an overtly biased study.

      • Amos Moses

        LOL ………. that coming from you …. WOW …. just WOW …..

    • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

      This has pretty much been his viewpoint for years. One can only hope that he sees the truth. We have to pray for him daily.

      • Liberal Elitist

        You do something to me
        Something that simply mystifies me
        Tell me, why should it be
        You have the power to hypnotize me?

        Let me live ‘neath your spell
        Do do that voodoo that you do so well
        ‘Cause you do something to me
        That nobody else could do

        You do something to me
        Something that simply mystifies me
        Tell me, why should it be
        You got the power to hypnotize me?

        Let me live ‘neath your spell
        Do do that voodoo that you do so well
        ‘Cause you do something to me
        That nobody else can do
        That no one else in the world can do.

        — Cole Porter

        • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Why are you posting old people’s songs on a Christian site?

          • Liberal Elitist

            What are you? Twelve? LOL!!!

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I’ll bet you’re rocking a rocking chair while sucking on a Werther’s original and reminiscing about the good old days. 🙂

          • Liberal Elitist

            I’ll bet you’re trying to apply mascara AND texting your current boyfriend, all while driving. Pay attention to the road.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You guessed wrong, Gramps. 🙂 Have a great day.

      • Biscuit

        We just hope that you can let go of your hatred and see the truth. Your prayers keep getting answered, you just don’t like the answers you are getting.

        • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

          Yes, my prayers keep getting answered, but you are wrong that I don’t like the answers I am getting. I LOVE, thank, and praise God for the answers I am getting!

    • johndoe

      Even SCOTUS cant reclassify homosexuality. It takes the APA to do that. Since its innate, it would be impossible to reclassify it

      • Amos Moses

        NOPE ……… APA cant do it either ……………… they have no power or authority to change the truth into a lie …………….

        • johndoe

          Based on research they surely can

          • Amos Moses

            they have no research ….. they have opinion ….. and it still does not change the truth into a lie ………

          • johndoe

            Opinions vary

          • Amos Moses

            which is why it is not the truth ……….

          • johndoe

            And?

  • Mama Lawing

    Ashamed that he would say this, but not surprised.

  • TheBottomline4This

    He’s fine with it as the law stands now.
    Things can always be repealed just as other laws have been 🙂
    This degressive law can be changed eventually.
    Even if it;s not, we know that God doens’t acknowledge these faux “marriages”.
    I don’t acknowledge them when the issue is around me.
    It’s good to know the Truth and not lose any sleep over this foolishness.

    • johndoe

      Funny. I doubt anyone cares if you or your god acknowledges their marriage. No gods needed for marriage…just two consenting unrelated adults and a license.

      • TheBottomline4This

        Funny, I doubt anyone cares about you blabber except for delusional gay “marriage” supporters. They are not real marriages. It’s good you don’t have final say and you will learn that one day Johnny 🙂

        • johndoe

          They are real in the eyes of the law and thats all that is needed

          • TheBottomline4This

            No, that’s not all Johnny.
            Your ignorance is your bliss.

          • johndoe

            Lets pray SSM away. My mom used to call me that….Thanks!

          • TheBottomline4This

            You can “pray it away” if ya want. I’m not doing that.
            Your ignorance is your bliss.

          • johndoe

            The same can be said for you

          • TheBottomline4This

            Not at all Johnny. I am right, you are wrong. Case is closed.

          • johndoe

            Opinions vary and the case is never closed. Thanks for using a term of admiration!

      • Amos Moses

        so unrelated ……. where is that written ……… what kind of a BIGOT are you …….

        • TheBottomline4This

          THEY are the bigots, now that the tables are turning. Thanks for the reminder Amos.

        • johndoe

          And?

  • Coach

    God commands all people everywhere to repent and believe the gospel of Jesus Christ. Turn from your sins, stop believing the lies of this world, stop trusting your works or that one time you repeated that prayer in VBS and throw yourself on the resurrected Lord Jesus, who was crucified to pay the penalty for all who would believe, seek the Lord while He may be found, draw near to Him and He will draw near to you, humble yourself under the mighty hand of God, for He resists the proud but gives grace to the humble.

  • Croquet_Player

    Nice to see Trump has already disappointed some bigots, and only six days after the election.

    • Amos Moses

      not disappointed ….. he is doing exactly as a man with his condition does …… he wanders about and has no clear coherent worldview ………..

      • Croquet_Player

        I’m sure he’ll get around to disappointing you eventually. Give him a chance, he’s not even in office yet.

        • Amos Moses

          i was never “appointed” ………..

          • Croquet_Player

            That does not surprise me.

          • johndoe

            Poor old troll. Get a hobby.

    • Mint Julep

      Your candidate, the gorgon, did not win.

      So you’re the one doing the weeping.

      Hee hee
      Har har

      • Croquet_Player

        On the contrary. I think Trump is going to be such a spectacular failure it will end the GOP once and for all. It will be painful, but the outcome will be beneficial. I gleefully await his epic disasters, and the dawning realizations of his heartbroken fans that they have been extravagantly lied to by a salesman. Bring it on.

        • Mint Julep

          You’re trying to put on a brave face, but you fool no one. You progs are still in a state of shock. You’ve been eating valium like popcorn. You got 4 more years of, you better tell your doc to give you the maximum dosage.

          The Witch got beaten, and her worshipers are weeping. It’s funny.

          • Michael C

            I’m not a Christian.

            Are you a Christian?

          • Croquet_Player

            I don’t take drugs, thank you very much. I hope Trump makes you very happy. I don’t think he will, but we’ll see. Way to be gracious, you set such a fine example of why Trump supporters are really such lovely people.

  • Nidalap

    You won’t be able to make America great again while supporting the cultural rot…

    • Amos Moses

      What i do not understand …… if “homomarriage” is “established law” ….. and that was LAST YEAR ….. but somehow …… in some twisted logic …… abortion is NOT “established law” ….. and that was some 40 years ago ….. but Trump is going to appoint judges who are “strict constructionists” and “conservative” …. and that is the plan of attack ….. to overturn abortion ….. but leave “homomarriage” …. because one is “established law” and the other is somehow not ……. this is a DUAL MINDED MAN …….. and he is unstable in ALL HIS WAYS ….. he has NO COHERENT worldview ……… MUCH LESS a christian worldview ….. but numerous evangelicals thought this was a good idea to cast a vote for him …… proving that many of them are AFFLICTED with the same condition ………………..

      • TheBottomline4This

        “..for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat” Matthew 7:13

        • johndoe

          I do not like green eggs and ham
          I do not like them Sam I Am….

      • Emmanuel

        All the Trump Christian supporters have no answer to your post.

        • Martin Rizley

          Please see above.

      • Martin Rizley

        A vote is like a sculptor’s spatula which he uses to shape a statue; the voter with his vote seeks to shape the future of the country in one way or another. With a spatula you can add clay to a statue being molded– a positive action– or take away clay– a negativeaction. Many evangelicals who voted for Trump did so as a negative, rather than a positive act of future shaping– not so much to add Trump to the shape of America’s future but to take away once and forever Hillary Clinton and her puppet master George Soros from ever shaping the future of America.

        • Amos Moses

          i understand your point ….. but God put Trump there … and His will be done and not ours ….. the more i read scripture … the more of a Calvinist i become ….. this was ordained before creation ….. and Soros has not left the scene and will not … and even if he is arrested …. the other globalists are not going to let what is happening here stand ….. and judgement from God has not been halted ….. this country crossed a line last year with Obergefell …. Romans 1 is now in effect …. and we have not turned from that … we are being given over to a reprobate mind ….. and the evidence is in the streets everyday since the election …… and not word one from the other side to stop it …….. Peace to you ….

          • Martin Rizley

            I am a Calvinist who believes that God ordains not just the ends, but the means to those ends. He ordains that nations will not only be spared swift and final judgment but also that they will be spared such judgment through the faithful intercessory prayers of His people. We canno presume to know ahead of time what God is going to do with a nation until He does it. We learn what His sovereign plan was in retrospect. Our duty is to pray and witness in the hope that God will remember mercy in judgment. That was Abraham’s attitude toward Sodom. He didn’t just say, “Sodom is doomed, no use interceding for that city.”. No, he interceded, and God promised to spare the city if ten righteous people could be found within the gates. In the case of the U.S., there are many more than the ten righteous left. Therefore, instead of giving up hope for the country, we ought to continue interceding and praying for revival, and for its leaders. Belief in God’s sovereignty should move us to faith-inspired action, not passivity.

          • Emmanuel

            Great post. And yes, you are correct.

          • Amos Moses

            there being ten people was for that time, that city and that circumstance ….. it may or may not apply to us ….. and nothing in scripture says that it does …. Romans 1 is clear …. cross that line and God will turn them over to a reprobate mind ….. God is completely free to delay or accelerate that judgement at His desire …… not ours …. that does not give us any commandment to do anything but what we were told to do …. and that is preach the Kingdom and spread the gospel ….. no matter the government, time, place, person, nation or anything else ……… we have our marching orders …. they have not changed …….

      • yerffej

        We were left with No choice in this election brother. ..either vote for an obvious, outright anti-Christ, or for one who at least says many things he intends, that Do agree with God’s Laws…no, not a choice at all

        • Amos Moses

          if all you saw were two choices …… then you need to look harder next time …..

          • yerffej

            ?? Could you at least give me a hint at least…and I mean for an actual viable candidate? Not the 3rd party that utterly wastes votes…I would love to have seen at least two others (Dr Carson and/or Cruz) however, neither was to be accepted by the propaganda machine. Do I agree with everything Trump brings, of course not

        • Amos Moses

          so if the choice was between HRC and say Stalin ….. what would your vote be …. if you want to pick the lesser of two evils …. what do you say …… FYI, antichrist is going to fool many ….. not because he told the truth about what he was going to do ………. not saying DJT is the antichrist ….. but if your vote comes down to your perception of the “lesser of the two” …… how ya gonna know which is the lesser ….. and how is the “lesser” still not voting for evil ………

          • yerffej

            Neither hrc nor stalin, if they are the only choices, we are surely in deep doodoo, huh? So then, since you failed to provide a viable choice of any kind ….I stand firm on my choice as the only choice we had…trust me brother, the only thing I actually like about Trump is his complete disdain and contempt for the propaganda bandwagon others have so gleefully entertained…also, He was the Only one( of the two left standing) willing to reverse the obamanation-care along with fighting For The 1st and 2nd Amendments…. granted us by our Maker. I await another choice if you have one, and if you wish to continue this dept of redundancy dept debate….

          • Amos Moses

            but that is not the lesser of two evils strategy …… and if i misunderstood your process in determining who to vote for and on what basis ….. then please educate me …… and if you did not choose to see DJT as the person he is …. he made no attempts to backpedal or hide it, i will give him points for that …… but the choice was who sucked the least and it was a pretty even contest ………….

            TBSaid ……… i do like some of his choices so far …… but there are still a number of hands at the table and we do not know what cards they hold and they have not folded yet ……..

          • yerffej

            And one more thing about your previous post….I realize The antichrist will fool many, even some of the elect…I also realize Jesus Christ is coming back on the clouds, with Glory, and Majesty, and with millions upon millions of His angels ..Not as a paltry governmental elected official….I mean come on man, we’re talking two totally different things here. Please don’t denigrate our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ; The Almighty God of the Universe in such a fashion, and relate HIM to the likes of DT, HRC, the obamanation, etc…There is no comparison between any man….or woman on this green earth….and I suppose you were only looking to instigate responses…..but….??
            Just like they say on espn….’Come on man÷!??’

          • Amos Moses

            “Not as a paltry governmental elected official….I mean come on man, we’re talking two totally different things here. ”

            no … we are not ….. and if you cannot get that from scripture …. sorry ……

          • Charles

            The elect will not be fooled.

            (Mat 24:24 KJV) For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

          • yerffej

            Yea, that is the verse that went thru my mind as well brother. …God’s peace to you

  • The Commander

    Hahaha 😂 what a bunch of bigoted fuck sticks you all are! Thank your fictional “god” that your lot is a dying breed. Once your gone we can finally move on and leave your primitive ideas in the past where they belong.

  • BobbyHead

    This show us and reminds us that Trump does not go to a Christian Church. It is said that Trump is fine with homosexual marriage. Do we trust Trump? Of course not. We have to pray for this man who most likely is not a Christian as all the evangelical would like us to believe. I only voted for him so Hillary would not run free in our White House. Trump does not think homosexuality is a sin. Does he even know what sin is?

    • TwoRutRoad

      It doesn’t matter if he goes to church or if he knows what sin is. Article VI of the constitution says “…no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

    • Kyler Phoenix

      A religious concept.

  • Emmanuel

    To all Trump Christian supporters, you are approving sin. You are ok with sin. You are permitting sin.
    if you disagree with me, explain why

  • wordsnorth

    He played evangelicals like a fiddle.