Trump Announces Reinstatement of Ban on Transgenders Serving in U.S. Military

WASHINGTON — President Trump announced on Wednesday that the U.S. government has decided to reinstate the country’s ban on open transgenders serving in the military, advising that the issue is a distraction and would place a burden on the finances of the Armed Forces.

“After consultation with my generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States government will not accept or allow transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military,” he tweeted this morning. “Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgenders in the military would entail. Thank you.”

The announcement reverses the decision under the Obama administration as then-Defense Secretary Ash Carter had advised in June 2016 that the Pentagon would lift the longstanding ban on open transgenders in the military. Carter set July 1, 2017 as the deadline for implementation, but on the eve of the date, current Defense Secretary James Mattis issued a statement outlining that the matter would be pushed back six months to give additional time to determine whether or not the Obama-era policy would negatively affect military readiness.

“Since becoming the secretary of defense, I have emphasized that the Department of Defense must measure each policy decision against one critical standard: will the decision affect the readiness and lethality of the force?” he said. “Put another way, how will the decision affect the ability of America’s military to defend the nation? It is against this standard that I provide the following guidance on the way forward in accessing transgender individuals into the military services.”

Earlier this month, Air Force Gen. Paul Selva explained during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing that the “decision to delay the accessions of transgender individuals into the services was largely based on a disagreement on the science of how mental health care and hormone therapy for transgender individuals would help solve the medical issues that are associated with gender dysphoria.”

The policy under Carter was to have included federal payment of the “gender transition” treatments of transgender soldiers, and troops were required to attend mandatory briefings in anticipation of the policy implementation.

However, Christian organizations have expressed hopes that the military would scrap the plan altogether as it raised a number of concerns.

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“Americans need to know the extreme implications of this policy,” Chaplain Col. (Ret.) Ron Crews of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty said last year following a conference call with Pentagon officials. “Do we want our sons and daughters to be forced to share showers and sleeping spaces in a ‘mixed genitalia’ environment with no recourse for objections of conscience?”

“Spending billions of dollars on transgender surgeries and treatment plans, when the military has other priorities that would actually ensure its effectiveness in war, is irresponsible,” Lt. Gen. (Ret.) Jerry Boykin, who now works with Family Research Council, also remarked earlier this month.

“However, the cost to readiness, recruitment, retention, morale and cohesion will be even greater,” he said. “Secretary Mattis and Congress need to ensure the priorities of the U.S. armed forces remain those that the secretary has outlined: mission readiness, command proficiency, and combat effectiveness. These should be the new priorities, not the last administration’s social engineering projects that ignore military readiness.”


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  • FoJC

    “After consultation with my generals and military experts…”

    This should always be the case when deciding what’s accepted and not accepted in any military. Consult the people who have earned the right to lead others into battle, rather than socially minded civilians who have never been in battle. War is awful, but human nature makes it necessary, unfortunately.

    We shouldn’t have people in the military who are trying to figure out what gender they want to “transition” to, instead of total focus to their job and mission as a soldier. I wouldn’t want that person defending my natural life, anymore than someone elses natural life. The military has it’s own culture, it shouldn’t mimic the craziness going on in civilian culture. Separate for battle – 2 Timothy 2:4.

    Follow Jesus, find Wisdom.

  • james blue

    As long as they meet physical and intellectual standards all American citizens should be allowed to serve and fight for their country. If you have a problem with the gender, sexuality, religion etc.of a fellow troop that is YOUR problem, not theirs. The military should not be denying the right of others to fight for their country to protect your fragile sensibilities.

    • Daniel Hines

      wrong transgender = mental illness our military does not need this!

      • james blue

        By your definition? An Atheist would say believing in a deity constitutes mental illness.

        • Amos Moses – He>i

          and the a-theist …. being mentally ill and delusional …… would have no idea if he was correct ………… he rejects reason ………….

          • james blue

            Prove they are.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they deny reality ……… they deny the evidence which is abundant ….. what else would you call it but delusion …….. the A-Theist Delusion …… everything came from “nothing” and self constructed itself by ?????? what … the “free will” of the inanimate …….. they have no answers and have to steal from the christian worldview to make up their lies …… DELUSIONAL …………..

          • james blue

            What “evidence”? All we have is evidence that things exist, we have no proof of a creator, just faith.

            The “everything from nothing” argument fails because we apply different rules when it comes to how the creator came to be.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            if there is no Creator …. then how did you come about ………. the Creator always was ……….. even Hawking says time had a beginning ……. so there was a something before time began …… what is it and how did it begin time ……

          • james blue

            “the Creator always was”

            See, different rules.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yup …. the CREATOR does not live by OUR rules …… we live by His ……..

          • james blue

            It’s very handy when you wish to discredit the other theory and insulate yours.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i have given you the truth …. you reject truth …… in your own unrighteousness you reject it ….. the Creator created the creation and it does what He says ……. just as if you created something ….. it is what YOU say it is ……. now others may misuse that creation of yours …. just as men misuse Gods creation ………. but it was created none the less ……… and it follows His rules and His dictates ……… we do not follow Him as we are in rebellion to God …. you want to judge God by YOUR rules ….. sorry …. does not work that way ….. we are judged by His ……..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            If time has a beginning, then there is no such thing as “before time began”. “Before” is referring to a TIME. You can’t have “a time before time began”.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i understand you have no concept of what it was like or its nature …….. most do not ….. but yes you can and the SCIENCE says so ……..

            In this lecture, I would like to discuss whether time itself has a beginning, and whether it will have an end. All the evidence seems to indicate, that the universe has not existed forever, but that it had a beginning, about 15 billion years ago. This is probably the most remarkable discovery of modern cosmology. Yet it is now taken for granted. We are not yet certain whether the universe will have an end. When I gave a lecture in Japan, I was asked not to mention the possible re-collapse of the universe, because it might affect the stock market. However, I can re-assure anyone who is nervous about their investments that it is a bit early to sell: even if the universe does come to an end, it won’t be for at least twenty billion years. By that time, maybe the GATT trade agreement will have come into effect.

            Steven Hawking

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Okay….Hawking didn’t say anything there about anything “before time began”. He was talking about there being a beginning to time and/or the universe. Maybe I’m just being sorta pedantic here, but I’ll repeat myself: If there is such a thing as the “beginning of time”, there can’t be anything BEFORE that. It’s not even an issue of science, it’s BY DEFINITION. It would be like saying you’re north of the North Pole, or colder than absolute zero. No such thing exists, by definition. Now, if you were saying “before the UNIVERSE began”, I would understand that.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “anything “before time began”

            then what is …. in Hawkings OWN words “whether time itself has a beginning” …. if it had a beginning ….. then something PROCEEDED it …….. you have NO ANSWER FOR THAT ………..and it was God who created it …… and it is in the scriptures ……… in Genesis and in John …… now “time before time” …. yeah … we do not have the words to describe it other than it is ETERNAL or eternity ….. a place and time without place and time ….. where God resides ….. many want to call christianity unthinking ….. but you are probably doing more thinking on that ancient concept than you have done all week ……… and “science” ….. HAS NO ANSWER ……….

            ” there can’t be anything BEFORE that. It’s not even an issue of science,”

            Hawking disagrees ………. and just because you cannot conceive of it …… does not alter the reality of it ……… many said the sound barrier could not be broken …… guess what ………..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            If something was “before time began” then when time supposedly began wasn’t the beginning of time. Do you understand what I’m saying, even if you don’t agree with me? I know Christians sometimes say things like “God is outside time” or something like that. Maybe that’s what you’re really talking about. My problem here is just that it’s a bad choice of words.

            “Hawking disagrees”

            Where did he say anything about anything being “before time” though??

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            there is a place of NO TIME …… it is called in our poor language “eternity” ….. its not a bad choice of words ….. we HAVE NO WORDS for what it is as we have no way to currently experience it ………… but it does exist ………

          • TheKingOfRhye

            See, that’s what I’m talking about….if it’s a “place of no time” then it makes no sense to describe it as “before time” (if you can even describe it at all, that is)

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it is the place where time was created ………. describe how your brain functions to type on a computer ……….. not just i think it and it happens ….. give me the detailed description of all the neural pathways that it has to go through for even one finger to tap a key and the right key in the right order ………….. you cannot ……… you cant describe it ……… but it happens and you do it thousands of times a week if not a day ………….

          • Bob Johnson

            Time is an illusion. Lunchtime doubly so. -Douglas Adams

          • zampogna

            No, atheists embrace reason. And logic. What they reject is blind faith.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            wrong …. a-theists cannot explain where logic and science come from without stealing from a christian worldview ……….. FAIL …………… there is nothing “blind” about the christian faith …… there is much “blind faith” about accepting science and other disciplines without any ability to explain how they came to be ……… science does not explain science nor does logic explain logic in any way nor does it have any way to prove science or logic is true ……. the a-theist relies far more on self generated faith that is blind ….. christian faith is not self generated …..

          • zampogna

            They don’t steal from a Christian worldview, because they don’t accept blind faith. They accept what they see based on evidence and logic and facts. That is the OPPOSITE of the Christian worldview.

            The evidence is what explains how things came to be. That IS the explanation and the logic.

            I haven’t failed. You have.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they steal from God the things of God to say what they say ……….. so yes they do accept in blind faith that science is true …… and they have no basis to judge the evidence because they do not know what the truth is ……… that is PRECISELY the christian worldview …. not the opposite ………. knowing the truth is the christian position …….. the evidence is EXACTLY the same for christian and non-christian ………. the difference comes down to the worldview the evidence is seen through …….. the a-theist rejects truth and so his view of the evidence is in error …..

          • zampogna

            You are COMPLETELY ignoring: Evidence. Data. Facts. Findings. Experiments. Repeatable results.
            Those are all the things you DON’T do where God is concerned, so how can you say ANYTHING is being “stolen”? You are on the opposite side in every single respect sir and that is why you FAIL.

          • Bob Johnson

            So therefore, by your reasoning the “a-theist” should also be banned from military service.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            that is not reasoning …… the a-theist maybe delusional ….. but he is not seeking surgery to fix his dilemma …..

          • Bob Johnson

            “the a-theist …. being mentally ill and delusional”

            So then in general you have no problem with military personnel being mentally ill and delusional? You only object to surgical solutions?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            depends on the delusion ………… now doesnt it ……….. every country that has accepted homosexuals, transgendered and other equally delusional persons in their military …. mostly in Europe but other places …… have destroyed their military as an effective force of protection ………….

    • Robert

      Are you trying to be my snuggle bunny ?

      • james blue

        Your sexuality is none of my business

  • Redboyds

    What on earth happened to the military? They used to boot out the mentally ill, including homosexuals. You can’t put national defense in the hands of the delusional.

    • james blue

      On a Monday we gave our gratitude to an air force pilot who had served for 19 years with valor and was awarded combat decorations We thanked him for his dedication, bravery and for all he has done to protect our nation.

      On the Wednesday we discovered he was gay and deemed him unfit to serve.

      What changed? He was gay the entire time he served

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        how would you know ………. he may have just turned …..

        • james blue

          It was an actual case. Fortunately the repeal of DADT ultimately prevented the loss of a valuable asset.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            never doubted its actuallity …. but ….. he may have just turned ….. like the walking dead ……..

          • james blue

            No, he was always gay.

            However, how does one “turn gay”?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            happens every day ………. people make CHOICES ….. they are not “born homosexual” …… that is a lie……..

          • james blue

            Apparently you are attracted to the same gender as your own. I am not.

            I couldn’t choose to be gay. I have no choice when it comes to being heterosexual, I was born heterosexual and cannot choose to change that.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            does not matter what you have chosen …… other people DO ……….

          • james blue

            Yourself included apparently.

            I did NOT choose to be heterosexual and could not choose to be gay.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yes you did ………. we all do …… for your own reasons and the fact is you may not be aware of when you CHOSE …… but YOU DID …… murderers frequently “did not choose” to be murderers …… BUT THEY DID ….. they may not recall the time when it happened ….. BUT THEY DID ………..

          • james blue

            You are not a murderer until you kill. You may have the urge, but until you kill you are not a murderer.
            You are gay if you are sexually attracted to the same gender. you are still gay even if you choose not to act on it just as a person would be heterosexual even if they choose to remain celibate. The only choice is whether you act on your attractions.

            I did not choose to be heterosexual and couldn’t choose to be anything else.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope ….. you are one BEFORE you kill ………….. the thought is the act ….. the thought PRECEDES the physical act …………

          • james blue

            So we should jail or execute people for thoughts?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            we are not talking about mans law ….. this is a CHRISTIAN forum ….. we are talking about Gods Law ….. and yes ….. the thought IS the act in Gods court ….. and why ALL MEN are guilty before Him ….. EVERY man and woman and child ……………………

            but there is grace …….

          • james blue

            So a person with same sex attraction is doomed no matter if he decides to not act on it (not be gay)?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope …. not doomed ….. salvation is of Christ … but Christ and the Father must intervene first …………… and they ( the homosexual) maybe predestined to hell and damnation or they may be predestined to be saved …… we do not know ….. so we must preach the gospel of the kingdom ………………. and they will either accept the truth and turn to Christ or they will not …………..

          • TheKingOfRhye

            “you are one BEFORE you kill ………….. the thought is the act”

            No, you’re a murderer if you (pay close attention here, this gets tricky….wait for it)…….have murdered someone. Last time I checked, a thought couldn’t kill another person.

          • zampogna

            He’s probably referring to that ludicrous “Are You a Good Person” test…look it up online. It’s the test that evangelicals use to “prove” using scripture that all men are liars, murderers and adulterers.

          • TheKingOfRhye

            I hadn’t seen that one before. I’ll save anyone else reading this the few seconds: the answer is “no, you’re not”

          • zampogna

            Which is exactly the same answer we give Amos about if you’re a murderer: “No you’re not”.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yes …. in christianity ….. it IS and YOU ARE ………… the thought is the crime ….. to call a person a fool is the crime of murder …… (pay close attention here, this gets tricky….wait for it) …………. this is a CHRISTIAN FORUM and the topic is ALWAYS ABOUT GOD/CHRIST and CHRISTIANITY ……. or do you need to be told where you are each time you post here ……….

          • TheKingOfRhye

            Okay, I thought you were saying that to think about murder makes you a murderer….but it only takes calling someone a fool? There’s a LOT of murderers around here, then. Oh, and I guess David, the author of Psalm 14, was one too?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it does …and EVERY PERSON is a murderer ……. yes … David was one also ……… he ACTUALLY had a man murdered for a woman ……. so did Moses murder ……

            14 In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah.
            15 In it he wrote, “Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die.”

            2 Samuel 11:2-15

            2 One evening David got up from his bed and walked around on the roof of the palace. From the roof he saw a woman bathing. The woman was very beautiful,

            3 and David sent someone to find out about her. The man said, “She is Bathsheba, the daughter of Eliam and the wife of Uriah the Hittite.”

            4 Then David sent messengers to get her. She came to him, and he slept with her. (Now she was purifying herself from her monthly uncleanness.) Then she went back home.

            5 The woman conceived and sent word to David, saying, “I am pregnant.”

            6 So David sent this word to Joab: “Send me Uriah the Hittite.” And Joab sent him to David.

            7 When Uriah came to him, David asked him how Joab was, how the soldiers were and how the war was going.

            8 Then David said to Uriah, “Go down to your house and wash your feet.” So Uriah left the palace, and a gift from the king was sent after him.

            9 But Uriah slept at the entrance to the palace with all his master’s servants and did not go down to his house.

            10 David was told, “Uriah did not go home.” So he asked Uriah, “Haven’t you just come from a military campaign? Why didn’t you go home?”

            11 Uriah said to David, “The ark and Israel and Judah are staying in tents,[a] and my commander Joab and my lord’s men are camped in the open country. How could I go to my house to eat and drink and make love to my wife? As surely as you live, I will not do such a thing!”

            12 Then David said to him, “Stay here one more day, and tomorrow I will send you back.” So Uriah remained in Jerusalem that day and the next.

            13 At David’s invitation, he ate and drank with him, and David made him drunk. But in the evening Uriah went out to sleep on his mat among his master’s servants; he did not go home.

            14 In the morning David wrote a letter to Joab and sent it with Uriah.

            15 In it he wrote, “Put Uriah out in front where the fighting is fiercest. Then withdraw from him so he will be struck down and die.”

            16 So while Joab had the city under siege, he put Uriah at a place where he knew the strongest defenders were.

            17 When the men of the city came out and fought against Joab, some of the men in David’s army fell; moreover, Uriah the Hittite died.

            18 Joab sent David a full account of the battle.

            19 He instructed the messenger: “When you have finished giving the king this account of the battle,

            20 the king’s anger may flare up, and he may ask you, ‘Why did you get so close to the city to fight? Didn’t you know they would shoot arrows from the wall?

            21 If he asks you this, then say to him, ‘Moreover, your servant Uriah the Hittite is dead.’”

            22 The messenger set out, and when he arrived he told David everything Joab had sent him to say.

            23 The messenger said to David, “The men overpowered us and came out against us in the open, but we drove them back to the entrance of the city gate.

            24 Then the archers shot arrows at your servants from the wall, and some of the king’s men died. Moreover, your servant Uriah the Hittite is dead.”

            25 David told the messenger, “Say this to Joab: ‘Don’t let this upset you; the sword devours one as well as another. Press the attack against the city and destroy it.’ Say this to encourage Joab.”

            26 When Uriah’s wife heard that her husband was dead, she mourned for him.

            27 After the time of mourning was over, David had her brought to his house, and she became his wife and bore him a son. But the thing David had done displeased the LORD.

          • zampogna

            Might explain a little bit why a lot of people choose not to be Christians. You know, in case you’re ever wondering why your numbers are dwindling.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope …. they do not choose to be or choose not to be ….. they are either CHOSEN by God or they are NOT CHOSEN ….. and it is ALL BY GODS CHOICE ….. and not ours ………..

            “Most people I know don’t take kindly to being called murderers.”

            and yet ALL CHRISTIANS accept that they are ……… every last one who is a true christian ….. and those who are not christians ….. are anyways ……….

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nobody wants to be told just how bad they really are ….. but that is the difference between the christian and the non-christian …….. the christian knows and accepts how wretched they are, how utterly lost and despicable they are …… and they agree with God as to what their TRUE condition is ………. the rest do not care ……………

          • zampogna

            You can feel wretched all you like without calling yourself a murderer.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            anyone who disregards Gods sovereign will is a murderer …….. among many other things ….. and that is EVERYBODY ………

            Matthew
            5:21 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not kill; and whosoever shall kill shall be in danger of the judgment:
            5:22 But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.
            5:23 Therefore if thou bring thy gift to the altar, and there rememberest that thy brother hath ought against thee;
            5:24 Leave there thy gift before the altar, and go thy way; first be reconciled to thy brother, and then come and offer thy gift.

            yep …. EVERYBODY …………… calling a person a derogatory name is tantamount to murder in the Kingdom …… and we all do it everyday …………..

          • zampogna

            No, there is nobody who would logically define murder in such a way. If you terminate someone’s life (and that means a living person, not a fetus, by the way) then you are a murderer. That is how the law and the dictionary would define it, and you would go to jail. Any other definition is not to be taken seriously.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            God is sovereign ….. HE defines it this way ….. and so you are not a christian ………. as you do not accept Gods judgement of your behavior …………

          • zampogna

            My faith or lack thereof is not of concern in this discussion. I do wish you’d stay on topic rather than flying off the handle with accusations. A murderer is someone who physically kills other human beings.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            your disagreement with God makes you NOT a christian and you are the one who brought up YOUR disagreement with God …………. ” A murderer is someone who physically kills other human beings.” …… thus …. YOU DISAGREE with the scriptures and God ………….

            FYI and BTW …. the topic here is ALWAYS GOD AND CHRISTIANITY ………. wake up … clean off your glasses and FIGURE OUT WHERE YOU ARE ……………

          • zampogna

            Yeah, I would disagree with ANYONE who argues with the given, accepted definition of “murder”. I don’t give free passes to ancient books. And yes, you constantly scold people about this being a Christian forum. Guess what? I don’t know a SINGLE Christian who defines murder the way you do, either. Not. A. Single. One.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            the CHRISTIAN definition is stated in scripture …… you argue with Christ and the Father ….. good luck with that ………

          • zampogna

            The Bible is not a book of definitions, you’ve been told that many times. The book you want – and still appear not to have invested in – is the dictionary.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            the BIBLE defines what the BIBLE says ….. NOT MEN and their “dictionaries” ……. AS YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD MANY TIMES ……………

          • zampogna

            Dictionaries have one task – defining words. And it does not matter what faith a person follows – whether they even follow a faith. The words are defined according to the dictionary. Not according to the Bible. Not according to the Qu’ran. Not according to any other holy book. It is not overridden by anyone’s faith, nor can it be. It doesn’t matter that you value the Bible more. Nobody cares. Your Bible, for all the things you want to claim about it, is not a dictionary.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … has NOTHING to do with SCRIPTURE ….. men change definitions all the time ….. MEN do not get to determine what GOD has said …. GOD determines what GOD has said ………. and SCRIPTURE is GODS word … and is GOD …. so the only thing that can tell us what SCRIPTURE means …. IS SCRIPTURE ………… FAIL ………

          • zampogna

            Men change definitions all the time when it’s warranted. The dictionary has nothing to do with anybody’s faith, like I said. The dictionary, unlike your Bible, needs to be something that everyone agrees upon regardless of their belief system. Which it is, so if you are denying the dictionary there is something very wrong with you.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Men change definitions all the time ”

            Gods definitions DO NOT CHANGE ……………. men changing definitions DISQUALIFIES the dictionary as in any way useful to SCRIPTURE ………. we had this discussion ……… we are done ………..

          • zampogna

            God is not in the business of definitions. Once again, you’re trying to put the Bible and the dictionary in competition with each other when they are different books with different purposes.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i said we are DONE here ………..

          • zampogna

            You don’t make the rules here.

          • zampogna

            Oh my Lord. I have prescribed to him the dictionary far too many times. You have your work cut out for you, and yes, to him you are a murderer if you commit murder in your heart.

          • james blue

            I’m pretty sure I’m a red hot Adonis–it’s what your heart thinks….right? 😉

          • zampogna

            The irony is that if getting angry with someone means you’ve committed
            murder in your heart, some of these evangelicals are the most murderous
            people of all. This is what fascinates me – I was raised Christian and
            was taught it was a loving religion, but everything I read on forums
            like this one is based in anger and hate.

        • zampogna

          It doesn’t work that way. Your sexuality never changes.

      • Redboyds

        Glad he’s gone. Good riddance. No reason my tax dollars should pay the salary of such people.

        • james blue

          What people? Decorated combat veterans who put their life on the line time and again fighting to protect your freedoms and security?

        • Sisyphus

          No reason my tax dollars should pay for churches, aka tax free real estate holding companies.

          • james blue

            Or for military clergy.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          There is a very good reason. He was a soldier, doing his job like any other.

        • Worf

          No reason my tax dollars should compensate for the church’s financial loophole. No reason my tax dollars should be used to pay government employees that try to use their position to push their religion.

          See how that works both ways? Your taxes are not dependent on your feelings. We all pay taxes that go to places we don’t like. It is one of the costs of living in a capitalist republic with limited individual freedoms.

    • Sisyphus

      Well, the US does have a paranoid Commander in Chief with dementia.

      • Jason Todd

        Excuse me?

        Let me explain something to you: We have these Hollywood holier than thous creating this Twitter hashtag, “#Transrightsarehumanrights.”

        What’s wrong with this:

        1) There’s no such thing as “trans.” Only mentally ill people that NO ONE should be forced to enable.

        2) Joining the military is not a right. Period.

        3) There were people who wanted to “transition” at taxpayer expense. That’s not the function of the United States Armed Forces.

        4) Trump made this decision after talking to generals. You know, people who have been in our military for a while, and may actually know something about such things.

        • Sisyphus

          Trump is still a moron and a lunatic whether he consulted qualified people or not. Secretary Mattis should have the ultimate say.

          • Jason Todd

            A moron and a lunatic?

            You’re projecting again.

        • james blue

          Is it the function of the military to pay for boner pills?

          • Bob Johnson

            The military spends about $84 million on erectile dysfunction treatments annually.

          • james blue

            Time was when it only took an order to stand to attention.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          That’s nice. Did he consult with neurologists? Psychologists? Psychiatrists? Because those people would disagree with you that “there’s no such thing as “trans.”

        • SandyFanshawe

          OK, I have to ask you, are you an absolute MINDLESS freaking moron that you would blithely dismiss all the science on the subject of trans people saying there’s no such thing without a SINGLE OUNCE of knowledge, science, or data on the subject? Do you ever wonder why your type of Christian is seen as being so utterly hate-filled because of things like that?

          • Jason Todd

            What science?

            We have a man in his 50s in Canada who turned his back on his wife and kids because, according to him, he’s a six-year-old girl.

            We have a woman in Washington state who was photographed with menstrual blood in the middle of her pants, alongside a sign that proclaimed men have periods, too.

            Where’s the science?

            Thing is, you don’t need alphabet soup at the end of your name to realize and understand these people are bat bleep crazy.

            And “my type of Christian” is firmly transfixed in reality, refusing to enable the mentally ill, knowing far better than the type of “Christian” that would commit blasphemy by calling God a liar.

          • SandyFanshawe

            “What science?”

            That would appear to be your problem right there. You don’t understand the methods science uses and don’t like it because it hasn’t arrived at the same conclusion you have, i.e. to call them all mentally damaged perverts. Why don’t you go to a REAL science source and read about how they actually do things, which is to say work from scientific methods and not ancient holy texts?

          • Jason Todd

            I didn’t say they are mentally deranged perverts. I said they are bat bleep crazy. Period.

            Any “scientist” that ignores what even Stevie bloody Wonder can see isn’t someone I need to hear from.

          • Bob Johnson

            Well since you put scientist in quotes, I suppose we can count “Dr. Dino”.

          • zampogna

            “Crazy”. There is a non-emotionally charged, trenchant, scientific word. Well done.

          • wandakate

            Whoever or whatever people fell that they are is always a “mental” issue, it’s got nothing whatsoever to do with anything remotely physical. As I wrote earlier there is either the male part down below or there isn’t, pretty plain and simple really! Anything otherwise need to have mental treatment.

          • Bob Johnson

            Okay, it appears that the answers to your questions are
            1 – Yes
            2 – No

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            false science that does not comport to the truth ………… is NOT SCIENCE ……..

          • SandyFanshawe

            You will call any science no matter how well it is tested and screened “false” as long as it doesn’t line up with your religion. Science has its own screening and testing methodology and doesn’t need yours.

          • wandakate

            What does it have to do with hate-filled anything? There were ONLY two humans created one was a MALE, his name was Adam and he did have the physical characteristics of a male, with the little ding-a-ling down below. Then there was created the female and her name was Eve. She didn’t have a ding-a-ling down below, thus very different from the male Adam. They were created by GOD in the beginning to “reproduce” and fill the earth. Without the male and the female there wouldn’t be anybody else b/c it took “both” of them to reproduce.
            It’s not GOD’s intention for sex to be ONLY pleasure as in male and male and female and female, but it was his intention for it to bind them together (the male and the female) to produce offspring to continue to fill the earth with inhabitants, plain and simple. Anything other than that would have to be a “mental” issue and clearly not a “physical issue”.

          • Bob Johnson

            “…to produce offspring to continue to fill the earth with inhabitants, plain and simple. Anything other than that would have to be a “mental” issue….”

            So the entire military is a “metal” issue and works against God’s plan.

      • Redboyds

        The Witch lost the election in November 2016.

        You can either man up and get over it,
        or continue to amuse the rest of us by whining.
        The second option is the one I prefer.

        • Sisyphus

          Didn’t vote for Hillary, and given your predilection for binary consciousness I understand you only possessing the ability to have two choices. A corrupt politician or a bombastic idiot is not a choice.

          • Redboyds

            Tough noogies. You can always move to one of those socialist paradises progressives claim to love.

          • Sisyphus

            Don’t like socialism? Me neither, but I do like driving on public roads, going to public parks, I went to public schools and I’m happy to take social security and Medicare.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            public schools …. there it is … that explains a lot ……….

          • Sisyphus

            Explains my PhD and tenured professorship. I didn’t have to struggle to free my mind from religious dogma.

          • zampogna

            An education free of indoctrination? Sign me up.

        • This style 10/6

          She lost by getting the most votes!

          • Redboyds

            Um, the Constitution says she LOST, f ggot.

            Move to some place with different laws.

          • This style 10/6

            Without progress the US would still have slavery, women would not have the vote.

            I don’t live there so who you have as president is no concern of mine. Just glad we don’t have that pussy grabbing liar.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            without CHRISTIANITY all those things would still exist …… and some of them do anyway ……..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ROTFL ……… the peanut gallery from Canada has weighed in ………

      • We have a CIC that actually cares about this country and the people in it.

        • zampogna

          By turning his back on people who volunteered to serve that same country and the people in it? Really, Doug? How does that make any sense?

          • They are mentally ill and mentally unstable and do not belong in the Armed Forces of the United States.

          • zampogna

            They are no such thing. Just as this would be a disgusting statement to people of other races, it’s disgusting now because it ignores all the things we know about transgenderism from science which you choose to ignore.

          • Junk science and it has nothing to do with ethnicity or skin color.

          • zampogna

            It is not junk science. It is not even a single body of science but many all in agreement with each other. You cannot simply dismiss scientific organizations because they discover truths at odds with your beliefs/indoctrination.

          • Cite your sources.

          • zampogna

            Happy to. Here are some.

            American Medical Association
            American Academy of Pediatrics
            American Counselling Association
            American Psychological Association
            American Psychiatric Association
            American Psychoanalytic Association
            American School Health Association
            National Association of Social Workers
            National Education Association
            American Association of School Administrators
            Pan American Health Organization
            American Organization for Marriage and Family Therapy
            American College of Physicians
            Just the Facts Coalition

          • And all believing in junk science for political reasons and because of that all are co-opted and not credible.

          • zampogna

            So you throw out all those perfectly respectable organizations because their facts and findings don’t match what you’ve been indoctrinated with? Is that what you’re telling me?

          • Bob Johnson

            Yep, AIG the only True ™ source of scientific knowledge.

          • What does AIG have to do with this?

          • Their “facts” are in opposition to the truth of God and His Holy Word. All true morality and truth comes from God and is given to us by Him.
            ————-

            John 14:6New King James Version (NKJV)

            6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

          • zampogna

            In what sense are they “facts” then, if it’s simply a matter of you reading an old book and believing it, rather than doing what all these respected organizations do and actually research things? Is it not self-evident to you that you’re calling this “junk science” simply because you fear it?

          • This junk science is mocking the Creator of mankind and the universe because it is promoting sin and God does not create sin.

          • zampogna

            And what reason would science have to do that? Your fear does not give you the right to call accepted science “junk”.

            Science doesn’t fear your brand of Christianity like your brand of Christianity clearly fears science. Science in this case did what it always does so well – investigated, tested, and came up with a conclusion. It proved things to be true. Now why can’t your brand of Christianity do the same?

            But I have my answer, don’t I? You fear the actual truth.

          • I fear nothing or no one. I have told you the truth. Do with it as you will.

          • zampogna

            You clearly do, or you wouldn’t be calling it “junk science”. In fact, you say “junk science” in exactly the same way Donald Trump says “fake news”. If you don’t like or can’t face what it says, you toss out the word “junk” because you can’t refute it.

          • I did refute it. It is contrary to God and His Holy Word because it is sin and God does not create sin nor tempt anyone to sin.

          • zampogna

            Which is faith. You’re comparing your faith to something known. Incidentally, science doesn’t beat people down with name calling quite like your faith does.

          • God is real. He created the universe and mankind. Like it or not He is the only true living God and that means He is your God too.

          • zampogna

            God MIGHT be real. You don’t know. But if God IS real, I would bet any amount of money he isn’t the hateful, tyrannical monster you make Him out to be.

          • You make Him out to be that way. Not me.

            I DO KNOW THAT GOD IS REAL.

          • zampogna

            No one does. That’s why atheists exist. You lack evidence.

          • God has proved Himself since time began. The day is coming when you also will believe.

          • zampogna

            We’ll see about that. Won’t we?

          • Yes you will.

          • zampogna

            I know it pains you to hear it, but if you’re right and my thoughts and deeds have really angered God as much as you are suggesting, you won’t have a ringside seat to watch him punish me. Sorry to spoil your paranoid revenge fantasy.

          • I have no such fantasy or desire.

          • zampogna

            Maybe you should stop threatening people with it who disagree with you then.

          • I am not threatening anyone. I am telling you what God says. You are in disagreement with God. Not me.

          • zampogna

            I don’t disagree with God. I simply don’t think you have the faintest clue about what the nature of God is, and you are the last person I would trust to know such a thing.

          • What is it you think I am wrong about?

          • zampogna

            For starters, that there is a fiery torturous burning hell that people who disagree with God, and by extension Doug Bristow and other fundamentalists, go to.

          • Revelation 20New King James Version (NKJV)

            Satan Bound 1,000 Years

            20 Then I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key to the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand. 2 He laid hold of the dragon, that serpent of old, who is the Devil and Satan, and bound him for a thousand years; 3 and
            he cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal on
            him, so that he should deceive the nations no more till the thousand
            years were finished. But after these things he must be released for a
            little while.

            The Saints Reign with Christ 1,000 Years

            4 And I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was committed to them. Then I saw
            the souls of those who had been beheaded for their witness to Jesus and
            for the word of God, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and
            had not received his mark on their foreheads or on their hands. And they lived and reigned with Christ for a[a] thousand years. 5 But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy is
            he who has part in the first resurrection. Over such the second death
            has no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall
            reign with Him a thousand years.

            Satanic Rebellion Crushed

            7 Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison 8 and
            will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the
            earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. 9 They
            went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the
            saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from God out of heaven
            and devoured them. 10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where[b] the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.

            The Great White Throne Judgment

            11 Then
            I saw a great white throne and Him who sat on it, from whose face the
            earth and the heaven fled away. And there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, standing before God,[c] and books were opened. And another book was opened, which is the Book of Life. And the dead were judged according to their works, by the things which were written in the books. 13 The
            sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up
            the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to
            his works. 14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.[d] 15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

          • zampogna

            Uh huh. Well you go ahead and believe that then.

          • That is the Word of God and God does not lie. But here is the good news.
            —————–

            John 3:16-17New King James Version (NKJV)

            16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. 17 For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved.

    • wandakate

      What on earth happened to the military? Their longtime policy was reversed by our past POTUS Barack H. Obama who decided they would be able to serve b/c he believed in their cause…Not POTUS Donald J. Trump comes alone and say NO MORE…I am setting it all back like it used to be. We are going to boot out the ones with mental issues and that would include ALL homosexuals in his opinion and in all the opinions of ALL of the military general who helped him make that turn around decision…If they don’t know who they are (who were they born as) how will they make decisions in time of war to do what is necessary for the betterment of our country and protect we the people?

      • Bob Johnson

        Sacred Band of Thebes

  • Robert

    I object and I just bought a vintage 1967 pink prom dress with the large over sixed oval neck line that shows off my black chest hairs for the swearing in ceremony. i Was going to wear it with my 1957 breakfast at Tiffany’s high heels which are remarkably fire engine red .what am I going to do with my aqua blue lipstick now? That makes my blondish red beard just pop. this is very upsetting news ..I could just cry if it. would not mess up my 90s messcara

    • Vaughn D

      Judging from the photos I’ve seen of these slobs, you probably would look better than any of them. They really do have mental problems if they think that they are better looking after they “transition.” They always look even worse.

    • FoJC

      You changed your name from Robert.

  • FoJC

    What type of transgenderism is being addressed? The actual biological kind, or the mentally ill kind when a person “identifies” as being the opposite gender they were born? The first kind (actual transgenderism) should only be addressed if it truly effects their ability to perform the duties necessary for their mission/job. The latter kind is mental/emotional illness/dysfunction and should not be permitted in the military.

    No one should be able to enter the military then use tax payer’s money to fund their surgeries and drug treatments for fake transgenderism.

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    Inanna, Aphrodite, Ishtar, Astarte, Venus, Ashtoreth. They’re all pagan names of the same goddess, the idol of carnal love and sexual relationships.

    Biblical scholars associate her with Baal or Baalim, and today’s progressives are falling back into the same ancient patterns of worship, especially when it comes to gender identity.
    ~Derek Gilbert

    Nothing knew about this ………… good old paganism …………

    • Once again my friend you have cut through the bovine scat and nailed the issue at hand.

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        bro’ ….. good to see ya ………

    • FoJC

      All pagan gods were demons who resided over cultivating specific sins within a populace.

  • TruthisLove

    Hooray for Trump!!! Praise the Lord Jesus Christ! The military is there to fight and defend, not become a sex club for sexual homosexual perverts to have sex with everyone and force Americans to pay for their wicked sex change operations based on their Satanic delusions and fairy tales they dream up.Trump, keep on overthrowing the wicked homosexuals who are destroying our nation for their god Satan!!! and keep on pleasing our loving Lord Jesus, who created everything, and he even created sex for our enjoyment in marriage (male and female only) and to joyfully fill the earth with children and more people!

  • Nidalap

    Wow.
    Actual common sense on display.
    It’s become so rare as to be considered a superpower now…

    • Ambulance Chaser

      It’s common sense to throw perfectly capable soldiers out of the military?

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        they are not “perfectly good” …… if they were …. they would not need “re-assignment” surgery …… when my brother wanted to enlist …. they found a certain defect that he had to have corrected BEFORE he could enlist ….. these persons see themselves as “not right physically” ….. on what basis should they be “indulged” at government expense ………..

        • Ambulance Chaser

          So you’d be okay with letting trans people in after their surgery?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            surgery is not the answer to their problems …….. and there are numerous problems ……. they would still be in rebellion ….. and that is against good military order ……………..

          • Bob Johnson

            “they would still be in rebellion”

            Should we limit military service to just Christians? Aren’t atheists also in rebellion? What about Catholics, can they serve in the military?

          • wandakate

            Atheist, Christians, Catholics don’t need reconstructive surgery to feel “whole”. It’s about having your physical characteristics totally modified from what GOD created you to be with the help of the sperm from the male (that determines the sex of the baby) to somebody that you are not or were not created to be at birth. Having that surgery doesn’t mean anything to GOD, b/c they are who they are and that is who they are.

          • Bob Johnson

            So please clarify this for me. I responded to Amos’ comment,

            “they would still be in rebellion ….. and that is against good military order.”

            And most Christians state that atheist are in rebellion to God. It would seem to suggest that atheists should not serve in the military. Yet you and Amos seem to say that some forms of rebellion are okay. You continue to state that it is because of the surgery required to feel “whole” that makes them unfit to serve our country. Would this apply to amputees wanting to feel “whole’ with a new limb? Was not their loss an act of God? Or is it only for surgeries of sexual organs?

            And as a finally bit of confusion on my part, you state, “Having that surgery doesn’t mean anything to GOD” which reminds me of the Marine Corps saying,

            “To err is human,
            To forgive is Devine,
            Neither is Marine Corps policy”

          • wandakate

            As I have previously stated…we are who we are. If we were created a male that’s what we are, not a sissy female parading around in feathers sandals and a thong, wearing flowered blouses and short shorts with make up…oh pleaseeeee do spare me on that…
            If we are a female, then that’s what we are, designed to reproduce, and not be in combat boots and have to go to a barber shop for our haircuts and be rugged driving motorcycles and ATV’s…Very simply again…We are what GOD designed us to be, not anybody else…Humans do err, they aren’t perfect in nature, forgiveness is a good thing and the LORD does forgive those who confess, repent of and forsake their sins. We are also instructed to forgive one another and the LORD is forgiving us.
            JESUS told us if we DO NOT forgive others, HE will in turn not forgive us.

          • Tonya Elise

            YES, they do. I am a Christian. I am Trans. So-called Christians HATE. Judge not lest ye be judged.

          • wandakate

            There is NO judging going on when the TRUTH is spoken. Revelation 22:15…BUT OUTSIDE (the kingdom of GOD) ARE DOGS, AND SORCERERS AND THE “SEXUALLY IMMORAL”, AND MURDERERS AND IDOLATERS, AND WHOEVER LOVES AND PRACTICES A LIE.

            So, you can lay your “judging” aside and read the scriptures and the scriptures don’t lie.
            IF someone is “sexually immoral” it means they are NOT living as GOD had intended for people to live (sexually speaking). Our preferences DO matter.

            You see the whole TRUTH is that people don’t want to know the truth b/c the truth will set them free and they prefer bondage and bondage is from the evil one (satan, the devil).

          • wandakate

            The medical professionals are telling us that it’s NOT a physical issue, but actually more of a “mental” issue. They have what they have and that is who they are.
            Imagine trying to make a dog a cat, or a female dog a male dog or a male cat a female cat…Isn’t that silly? It’s about what they want to be in their mind, it’s ALL in their head.

        • zampogna

          What does their gender issue have to do with their ability to serve?

      • Sisyphus

        Interestingly, The Joint Chiefs of Staff agree with you AC

        • Ambulance Chaser

          Apparently the vast, left wing conspiracy got to them too.

      • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        There are restrictions in the military as far as weight, health, etc. The transgender population has a higher suicide rate, as well as other mental health issues. This is about building a strong military, not about appeasing every one.

        • Ambulance Chaser

          So what if they have a high suicide rate? So do combat veterans. Should no one ever do more than one tour?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Transgender folk have a higher suicide rate without combat. Imagine how much higher it would be after.

          • GregorHodge

            It is not your place to diagnose people you have not met you son of a bitch.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            How about you let THEM worry about that?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            how about we do worry about how they do not want to spend their own money to “fix” themselves ……….

          • Bob Johnson

            “between $2.4 million and $8.4 million annually, representing a 0.04- to 0.13-percent increase in active-component health care expenditures.” By point of comparison: The military spends about $84 million on erectile dysfunction treatments.” – RAND Corporation

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            sure …. and i do not see any reason for EITHER expense ……….. we have WOUNDED warriors who cant get NEEDED treatment …… but we should spend money on that GARBAGE ……. Wounded Warrior Project is a DISGRACE to this nation who will not care for those who were injured PROTECTING it …… not whining about their real or imagined sex problems ……….

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            It’s the government’s job to make sure that only the fittest and the best are fighting for the nation’s safety, not to conduct a feel-good PC experiment to make a few libs feel good.

          • james blue

            So why not judge a person on his or her fitness and abilities rather than discount them to protect your fragile sensibilities? In discounting certain groups we are sometimes missing talent.

            There are some gays and some transgender people who are not suitable for military service, just as there are some Christians and heterosexuals who are not suitable. The deciding factor should be based on the individual, not a social policy designed to protect fragile sensibilities

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Okay, so present some evidence that trans people harm the military.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I already did. Mental illness prevents one from serving.

            Here’s more:

            dailysignalDOTcom/2017/07/26/why-forcing-the-military-to-pay-for-sex-changes-would-be-disastrous/

          • Ambulance Chaser

            There’s no evidence in there.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You’re intentionally being obtuse. Look, anyone who needs medication cannot enlist. Anyone who has a mental illness cannot enlist. Look at the statistics in that article. The army is supposed to be full of the fittest, not the ones who need the most medical/psychological care.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I looked, it’s not a study, it’s just a bunch of disparate, right wing talking points.

            I asked you to prove that military readiness would be harmed if we allow trans people to serve. You showed me a puff opinion piece from a general-readership conservative website. The only mention it gives the topic of military readiness is to argue about it not from evidence but from incredulity.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You’re dishonestly misrepresenting actual statistics in an article written by a transgender person who is not a “right wing”.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            I didn’t see any actual statistics there. There was a citation to the suicide rate of trans people. I don’t dispute it, it’s just that the author hasn’t established its relevance.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You probably didn’t look hard enough.

          • zampogna

            No, Ambulance Chaser is correct. No stats.

          • Ambulance Chaser

            Maybe instead of sneering, you just show me what you think I should read?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            How about the entire article?

          • wandakate

            Probably twice as high if not more…They need “mental” help not physical re-alignment.

        • zampogna

          No, they don’t have “other mental health issues”. I can tell when you are making something up.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            tgmentalhealthDOTcom/basic-issues-in-transgender-mental-health/

          • zampogna

            Those are all issues that arise from being transgendered and nothing was listed that suggests any mental issues in the way you intended.

          • Bob Johnson

            A RAND Corporation study looked at 18 foreign militaries that allowed open trans service and found no negative impact on military readiness.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            right ….. they just cant win any wars or protect their citizens ………..

      • wandakate

        Apparently you just missed the whole point! It’s gone right over your head!

        • Ambulance Chaser

          There is some point other than “We should throw perfectly capable soldiers out of the military because they’re trans?”

    • Robinske2

      It is indeed common sense regardless of what the Liberals that troll this site believe. Look no farther than Chelsea/Brad Manning on how unstable a transgendered person can be.

      It’s also noteworthy that a court has determined transgenders that are looking for a free sex change operation can join the military. The taxpayers should never be on the hook to pay for a sex change operation.

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    On Wednesday, President Donald Trump tweeted that he wouldn’t allow transgender individuals to serve in the military.

    I think he made the right decision—and as someone who lived as trans-female for several years, I should know.

    When I discovered Congress voted earlier this month to not block funding for transgender-related hormone therapies and sex change surgeries, I wondered if it considered how devastating this will be to the fitness, readiness and morale of our combat-ready troops.

    In July, the House of Representatives voted down Missouri Republican Rep. Vicky Hartzler’s amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act, which would have banned the military from funding such treatments.

    Paying for transition-related surgeries for military service members and their families is beyond comprehensible.

    Perhaps they have forgotten that our military was forged to be the world’s strongest fighting force, not a government-funded, politically correct, medical sex change clinic for people with gender dysphoria.

    Gender dysphoria, the common diagnosis for one who feels at odds with his or her birth gender, develops from prolonged anxiety and depression. People are not born that way.

    The “proof” for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria is having strongly held feelings—but feelings can and often do change over time.

    ~Walter Heyer

  • FoJC

    The unfortunate thing is that Trump and his supporters are just throwing crumbs to keep people stirred up and thinking he’s leading the country the right way. He’s a performer, as are most politicians. This is just feeding the frenzy of the unwise.

    Follow Jesus, find Truth.

  • SFBruce

    Even if you believe that it’s a good idea to deny serving in the military to people both willing and able to serve, this was introduced in the most incompetent, ham-handed way possible. There’s absolutely no evidence to support the notion that transgender individuals have a negative impact on military readiness or unit cohesion, but this policy, ironically, harms both. The several thousand transgender individuals who have volunteered to risk their lives in service to their country got this as thanks for their that service.

    • Jason Todd

      There’s absolutely no evidence to support the notion that transgender individuals have a negative impact on military readiness or unit cohesion,

      According to whom?

      • Bob Johnson

        U. S. Joint Chiefs of Staff

  • Faithwalker

    As a veteran who served in the Army leading troops for over sixteen years, it would not be doable to have FTM and MTF transitioners, it would be just too disruptive across the board. With that being said, the armed forces have always had soldiers with all types proclivities, but they engaged in those endeavors on their own personal time. However, I do not see a problem with them serving in the biological states that they were born with.

    • Bob Johnson

      It works for Canadian and Israeli armed services.

      • Faithwalker

        Those two countries ascribe to different cultures, socially as well as militarily. I am quite familiar with US military culture so that’s why I can speak to the issue as to why It will not work for the U.S. armed forces.

        • Bob Johnson

          That same culture that would never allow black soldiers to integrate with white troops? (50 years ago)

          • Faithwalker

            Transexuals or homosexuals are not a race…so what’s your point.

          • Faithwalker

            Transexuals and homosexuals are not classified as a race….so what’s your point?

          • Bob Johnson

            “They may be good soldiers, but it would be too disruptive…”

            Folks where making exactly the same comments, then Black Marines were assigned barracks with White Marines at Camp Pendleton.

          • Faithwalker

            Having a conversation about race in relation to individual’s sexual preferences are two different topics, and are not synonymous.

          • Bob Johnson

            Well more recently they said women could never serve in combat roles, it would be too disruptive.

            I think you underrate our military.

          • Faithwalker

            And I restate the same response, except exchanging race for gender. Sexual preferences is a category all unto itself. So a comparison cannot be made based on race, or gender because they are biological constructs. As opposed to homosexuality and transvestism which are psychological constructs.

          • Jason Todd

            Wait. I think I have it now. And now you know why I blocked him. For Bob, everything is comparable to skin color.

            Bob, dude…stupidity is not a competition. Stop trying for the grand prize.

          • Bob Johnson

            “Bob, dude…stupidity is not a competition. Stop trying for the grand prize”
            From you – I’ll take that as a compliment.
            Blocked – cool!

          • GregorHodge

            You block people because you are not interested in honest debate.

          • Jason Todd

            I am afraid to ask this…what did Bob say?

        • This style 10/6

          Canada is your closest neighbour, ally, shares military intelligence, cooperates closely militarily and tens of thousands of Canadians have relatives and friends in the US and many live there. We watch US TV and movies, eat US food and you use Canadian oil and eat Canadian bacon.

          How are our cultures so different that we can accept different sexualities and you can’t?

          My guess is that the right wing evangelicals have you in thrall, while we are shucking off religion.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Our military is strong because Harper built it up. Under Justin, it might become as pathetic as it was under his father.

          • This style 10/6

            Harper didn’t do more than maintain the military. I don’t suppose Trudeau will do much different

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            The Liberals neglect all things military.

          • GregorHodge

            They don’t do enough killing to satisfy your Christian blood lust.

          • Faithwalker

            You made three different points:

            First, just because Canadians like American goods and services does not prove the argument that the two countries shares the same cultural philosophies and ideologies.

            Secondly, you are absolutely correct in that both countries armed forces “share” military intelligence and information. However, they do not operate under the same policies and procedures when it comes to combat readiness.

            Thirdly, there are those both in Canada, America and throughout the globe who are religious and non-religious that abhor the totalitarian strong arm tactics that’s being used against them to decimate their rights to disagree with the the radical homosexual and transvestite agenda along with radical islam agena.

            The fact is, as being a rational and logical adult with any type of intellectual and emotional intelligence, (unfortunately, there are too many who have reverted to the behaviour of a three year old by throwing a tantrum because they cannot have their way). It should be recognized that being a part of the human race entail complex individuals that have their own opinions and beliefs. But this planet is becoming one that is being run by covert and overt narcissists, refer back to my third point.

          • This style 10/6

            “Thirdly, there are those both in Canada, America and throughout the globe who are religious and non-religious that abhor the totalitarian strong arm tactics that’s being used against them to decimate their rights to disagree with the the radical homosexual and transvestite agenda along with radical islam agena.”

            Now you get to your real point, you hate anyone who does not fit your idea that gender is fixed and that any who claims otherwise has an agenda to subvert the lifestyle you consider sacred. You even equate it with radical Islam, which entertains itself by throwing gays in jail or off roofs.

            There is no homosexual agenda. What you see is their effort to be granted the same rights and privileges as any other citizen. Take your bigotry elsewhere.

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    FEDS TO COURT: TITLE VII ALLOWS DISCRIMINATION ON SEXUAL ORIENTATION
    Filing notes Congress has ‘consistently declined’ to change law ‘despite opportunities to do so’

  • Praise God!

    At the same time, let’s not overlook that this would have never been an issue to begin with had the constitutional framers (like their 17th-century Colonial forbears) established government and society upon Yahweh’s unchanging moral law, including Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and Deuteronomy 22:5.

    This has all come to be thanks to the rights culture created by the 18th-century founding fathers when they replaced Biblical responsibilities with Enlightenment rights.

    For more, see blog article “America’s Road to Hell: Paved With Rights.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Blog and search on title.

    Then find out how much you really know about the Constitution as compared to the Bible. Take our 10-question Constitution Survey in the sidebar and receive a complimentary copy of a book that examines the Constitution by the Bible.

    • Trilemma

      Not only do you believe people in the LGBT community should not serve in the military, you believe they should be publicly stoned to death. Problem solved, right? Sounds like Hitler’s final solution.

      Jesus abolished Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, and Deuteronomy 22:5.

  • Tonya Elise

    AT least they want to serve their Country . What have you done For or to your country? What has Trump done for or to this country? Gender should not matter. The Unintelligent Society is clueless and HATE filled to something
    they have no knowledge and lack the education to what the real
    issue is. I know if i am a man i have Higher the normal Estrogen
    lvls. Both men and women have estrogen and testosterone. DNA Lies
    and you can not base Gender on DNA. ________________________________
    The Transgender Brain development
    How does the M to F Transgender?
    Like the normal male embryo, the Male to female Transgender brain it starts out
    female Then between the 8th and the 24th weeks, the “XY” chromosomes introduce
    testosterone hormonal changes, BUT hormonal washes as faulty. They are either
    insufficient or ill timed. When this happens, the fetus develops a male body.
    However, some of the default (original) female brain processes to remain intact.
    Thus, the brain’s gender Identity remain intact. Thus,the brain gender Identity
    remains Female. This means that Transgender males whose process of a
    masculinization was incomplete, their default female brains still function.
    The degree of arrested development can very. The original brain circuitry that
    was missed in the Masculinizing process provides a continuing Feminine influence.
    this explains why many transgender, biological males know. from as early as the
    age of 3 years old that they are actually members of the opposite gender.
    You are born with this unlike Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual). Though they too have some of the same traits.
    Gender is not sexuality but, it may effect it.*This may help F to M trans people too.

    • Your gender and your sex is one in the same.

    • Oboehner

      “DNA Lies and you can not base Gender on DNA.” ROFL, LOL