Mike Huckabee: If Republicans ‘Surrender’ on Same-Sex ‘Marriage,’ ‘I’m Gone’

Huckabee Credit Gage SkidmoreDuring an interview with the American Family Association (AFA) this week, former Arkansas governor and talk show host Mike Huckabee expressed his frustration with the Republican Party’s concession on the issue of same-sex “marriage,” and said that if Republicans continue to support homosexuality, he will leave the party and become an Independent.

“I am utterly exasperated with Republicans and the so-called leadership of the Republicans who have abdicated on this issue when, if they continue this direction, they guarantee they’re going to lose every election in the future,” he said on the AFA radio broadcast “A Time to Speak.”

“I don’t understand why they want to lose,” Huckabee continued. “Because a lot of Republicans, particularly in the establishment and those who live on either the left coast or those who live up in the bubbles of New York and Washington, are convinced that if we don’t capitulate on the same-sex marriage issue and if we don’t raise the white flag of surrender, and just the accept it as inevitable, then we’re going be losers.”

“It’s the absolute opposite of that,” he said.

Huckabee then stated that if Republicans continue to give in on the matter, he—and other Christians—will leave the party.

“An if the Republicans want to lose guys like me and a whole bunch of still God-fearing, Bible-believing people, go ahead and just abdicate on this issue, and go ahead and say abortion doesn’t matter, either. Because at that point, you lose me, I’m gone,” he declared. “I’ll become an independent. I’ll start finding people that have guts to stand. I’m tired of this.”

As previously reported, Huckabee had also stated last month during a conference call with Vision America that Christians need to be more active in resisting evil in the land. He noted how federal judges are overturning the will of the people in regard to the institution of marriage, including in his home state of Arkansas.

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“There should have been an outcry from the people of the state—a massive outcry [saying,] ‘You can’t do it,’” Huckabee opined. “I would remind people that the judicial branch is not the supreme branch, and the Supreme Court is only the Supreme Court, not the Supreme Being. And I feel that we have failed in civics to understand that there are three branches of government, and one can’t overrule the other two, and all three of them together can’t overrule the people.”

“Yet, we have people who say, ‘Well, the courts have ruled on abortion, we’ll have to live with it,’ or, ‘The courts have ruled on same-sex marriage, we have to live with it,’” he continued. “I would suggest no, we don’t. We shouldn’t just accept things that are ungodly and that will cause us to have to stand before God with bloody hands. I think that’s where we’ve failed.”

Huckabee, a former Southern Baptist minister, exhorted pastors to preach about the issues facing today’s society, and to encourage their congregations to vote the Bible.

“I would urge pastors to get in the pulpit and call people to biblical truth as it relates to the issue of life and marriage, and even the issue of stewardship, and never be apologetic and say, ‘Vote the Bible in your own heart,” he said.

Photo: Gage Skidmore

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  • robertzaccour

    If marriage is redefined, where does it end? Polygamy, marrying oneself? an animal? a building? incest? someone’s own child?

    • brine

      We act like homosexual marriage is just a step to a worse thing…the reality is that homosexual marriage IS the ‘worst’ thing because it shows the depravity of an individual and as we see here…depravity of a nation. Romans 1 shows the pathway…
      Which will be worse for the nation….if God physically hammers the nation or just pulls off of the nation and lets it continue to its own devices. We see a nation ‘daring’ God to judge us. Even at the end when God does pour out judgment on the world you would think people would repent but the Bible says that they won’t…at points God stopped chastening them because He said they would rebel more and more and He was tired of trying to correct them…we are heading down the exact same path. Christians kept silent too long and were too eager to let the world tell them how to craft their version of the gospel which ignored the judgment of God and sacrifice paid for sin…God is Love but not the way the world has changed it.

      • NoGod4U

        If it’s the ‘worst’ thing do you advocate the stoning of homosexuals as your bible mandates?

        • brine

          You show your ignorance in scripture. In the Old Testament Elijah called fire down from heaven on those that opposed God. In the New Testament there were those that opposed Christ and His disciples asked if they were to call fire from heaven to destroy them as Elijah did. Christ told them that He wasn’t there at that time to destroy but to call sinners to repentance…’stoning’ is not our place but it is our place to fight for righteousness and to speak the truth…at the end of the day lost people will suffer a fate worse than stoning because they refuse to accept the sacrifice that was paid for them. And as Jude proclaims He will convince people of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed and their ungodly speeches they have spoken…because we have a generation that is clean in their own eyes but can’t see their filthiness.

          • NoGod4U

            Well rest assured the US Constitution grants you the right to keep on screaming… the triple K club still exists in spite of public opinion. As for your Elijah reference, one of my favorite stories… too bad it’s just a story and God can’t really prove himself like that huh?

          • Rose

            Saying that God can’t really prove himself is incorrect. Every little atom was created by God. As Rice Brooks says in his book God’s Not Dead, it’s like going to a gallery full of paintings and saying that nobody painted them because the painter wasn’t there to say so.

          • Phipps Mike

            Did God create himself? Don’t ponder that too long. you will get a headache.

          • Rose

            No he didn’t. What most people don’t get is that God isn’t a cause or an effect. He wasn’t created, he always was and always will be.

          • Phipps Mike

            but Rose, how can one have faith in something so subtle? I beleive there is a God, but he certainly wasn’t just THERE, He was created as well. A spirit IS an entity.

          • Rose

            I have faith because I have seen him. He wasn’t just there, you’re right. He was always there. There was no beginning for him, and there is no end. It sounds complicated but once you get it, everything else is easy to understand.

          • Phipps Mike

            Time is man made so its pretty deep when you philosophize what “always there” really means when you use relativity. Did you have a near death experience when you seen him? My wife almost died when she had a still born, she was hemorrhaging and her heart had already stopped. She said she saw the spirit of her dead baby rising up to a bright light with the outline of a mans face surrounding it and he told her to go back because her baby would be ok with him. She then came to and has believed in God, totally, since then.

          • Rose

            No, I did not have a near death experience when I saw God. I was however at the breaking point of my life where I knew I was broken and doing everything wrong. It was at a conference in Texas. We were having a deep worship service, and the worship leader said, “It’s just you and God in one room.” I didn’t know what that meant until later on in the service where I found myself literally in one room with God. It was just me and him standing before each other. Ever since then, I had been able to sit down and have conversations with him one on one in person.

        • James Grimes

          You obviously don’t understand the Bible, so please stop using it as a weapon.

          • NoGod4U

            Really James? Are you saying the bible doesn’t advocate the stoning of homosexuals and disobedient children?

          • brine

            It did in the Old Testament and there was a reason for it…and when Israel disobeyed the fruit of those choices produced a harvest…just like now you live in a time where you have the opportunity for grace and forgiveness. God is long-suffering towards us not willing that any should perish…but He is not eternally suffering and there is a day of judgment coming. So far as God ‘not being able to prove Himself.” He has on multiple occasions throughout history and personally…but you are a lover of self more than God and choose the path of willful ignorance…just like in the days of Noah…just like in the days of Lot. And you have the freedom to make that choice so drink deep from that fountain if you so choose and make sure you squeeze every bit of this life you can out…unfortunately you will find out at some point it wasn’t worth the cost.

          • NoGod4U

            So much focus on hate, wrath, judgement and eternal suffering…no wonder Christians are so high strung. I would encourage you to look into Meditation it might help with the stress.

          • brine

            Meditation…there’s a thought…
            Psalm1: 1 Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.
            2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.
            3 And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
            4 The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.
            5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.
            6 For the Lord knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

          • NoGod4U

            Yeah I see a tribal God you worship and quote from the OT… unless of course his decrees no longer fit social moral acceptance such as not suffering a witch to live etc… but it’s convenient and provides you with the narcissistic fix you obviously so desire.

          • Hillary Cliton

            You really are lost. I pity you.

          • If you read your posts, the hate came from you. We are simply giving you the truth and if you cannot handle it, it does not make us haters… But those things will take place, and I just hope that you choose the right path…

          • MC

            What do you expect from atheists, they love to troll Christian sites, it’s part of the mental illness they suffer from

          • MC

            If you actually did research you wouldn’t come off as an ignorant fool. Studies have shown that religious people are physically healthier and happier than atheists.

            “In 2004, scholars at UCLA revealed that college students involved in religious activities are likely to have better mental health. In 2006, population researchers at the University of Texas discovered that the more often you go to church, the longer you live. In the same year researchers at Duke University in America discovered that religious people have stronger immune systems than the irreligious. They also established that churchgoers have lower blood pressure.

            Meanwhile in 2009 a team of Harvard psychologists discovered that believers who checked into hospital with broken hips reported less depression, had shorter hospital stays, and could hobble further when they left hospital.”

            “In the last few years scientists have revealed that believers, compared to non-believers, have better outcomes from breast cancer, coronary disease, mental illness, Aids, and rheumatoid arthritis. Believers even get better results from IVF. Likewise, believers also report greater levels of happiness, are less likely to commit suicide, and cope with stressful events much better. Believers also have more kids.

            What’s more, these benefits are visible even if you adjust for the fact that believers are less likely to smoke, drink or take drugs. And let’s not forget that religious people are nicer. They certainly give more money to charity than atheists, who are, according to the very latest survey, the meanest of all.”

            “Divorce. Four of every 10 children experience parental divorce, but a link between religious practice and a decreased likelihood of divorce has been established in numerous studies. Women who are more religious are less likely to experience divorce or separation than their less religious peers. Marriages in which both spouses attend religious services frequently are 2.4 times less likely to end in divorce than marriages in which neither spouse worships. Those who view their religious beliefs as “very important” are 22 percent less likely to divorce than those for whom religious beliefs are only “somewhat important.” The sociological literature reviews by the late David Larson of the Duke University Medical School and his colleagues indicated that religious attendance is the most important predictor of marital stability, confirming studies conducted as far back as 50 years ago.

            The likelihood of divorce is even further reduced when husbands and wives share the same religious commitment. Such couples report having a greater sense of well-being and more satisfaction with their marital relationship, and they are less likely to commit acts of domestic violence. A study of couples with divergent theological views showed that they were more likely to argue, especially about financial matters.Intermarriage across major faith groups is also linked with greater marital instability. Furthermore, couples who share the same faith are more likely to reunite if they separate than are couples who do not share the same religious affiliation. In one study, one-third of the separated spouses who had the same religious affiliation reconciled, compared with less than one-fifth of those with different affiliations.”

            “Mother-Child Relationship. Compared with mothers who did not consider Religion important, those who deemed Religion to be very important rated their relationship with their child significantly higher, according to a 1999 study. When mothers and their children share the same level of religious practice, they experience better relationships with one another. For instance, when 18-year-olds attended religious services with approximately the same frequency as their mothers, the mothers reported significantly better relationships with them, even many years later, indicating that the effects of similar religious practice endures. Moreover, mothers who became more religious throughout the first 18 years of their child’s life reported a better relationship with that child, regardless of the level of their religious practice before the child was born. Mothers who attended religious services less often over time reported a lower-quality relationship with their adult child.”

            “Father-Child Relationship. Greater religious practice of fathers is associated with better relationships with their children, higher expectations for good relationships in the future, a greater investment in their relationships with their children, a greater sense of obligation to stay in regular contact with their children, and a greater likelihood of supporting their children and grandchildren.

            Wilcox found that fathers’ religious affiliations and religious attendance were positively associated with their involvement in activities with their children, such as one-on-one interaction, having dinner with their families, and volunteering for youth-related activities. Compared with fathers who had no religious affiliation, those who attended religious services frequently were more likely to monitor their children, praise and hug their children, and spend time with their children. In fact, fathers’ frequency of religious attendance was a stronger predictor of paternal involvement in one-on-one activities with children than were employment and income-the factors most frequently cited in the academic literature on fatherhood.”

            “Domestic Violence. A small but growing body of research has focused on the links between religious practice and decreased family violence. For example, men who attended religious services at least weekly were more than 50 percent less likely to commit an act of violence against their partners than were peers who attended only once a year or less. No matter how the data were analyzed, regular attendance at religious services had a strong and statistically significant inverse association with the incidence of domestic abuse. Similarly, after controlling for all other factors, Wilcox found that of all groups studied (unaffiliated, active conservative Protestant, active mainline Protestant, nominal conservative Protestant, and nominal mainline Protestants), religiously active conservative Protestant men were least likely to engage in domestic violence.

            ‘Religion and Extramarital Sex

            Religious belief and practice are associated with less permissive attitudes toward extramarital sex and correspondingly lower rates of non-marital sexual activity among adolescents and adults.”

            “Out-of-Wedlock Childbearing. Thirty-seven percent of births now occur out of wedlock, with an increasing number born to cohabiting parents. However, given the findings on the relationship between religious practice and non-marital sex, attitudes, and behavior, it is not surprising that regular religious practice is one of the most powerful factors in preventing out-of-wedlock births. Rates of such births are markedly higher among young women who do not have a religious affiliation than among peers who do.

            The level of young women’s religious commitment also makes a significant difference. Compared with those who viewed themselves as being “very religious,” those who were “not at all religious” were far more likely to bear a child out of wedlock (among whites, three times as likely; among Hispanics, 2.5 times as likely; and among blacks, twice as likely). At he state aggregate level, the same phenomenon occurs. States with higher rates of religious attendance have lower rates of teenage pregnancy.”

            “Religion and Physical Health

            Greater longevity is consistently and significantly related to higher levels of religious practice and involvement, regardless of the sex, race, education, or health history of those studied.[89] For example, those who are religiously involved live an average of seven years longer than those who are not. This gap is as great as that between non-smokers and those who smoke a pack of cigarettes a day. Predicting the life spans of 20-year-olds who are religiously involved compared with those who are not yields differences in life span as great as those between women and men and between whites and blacks. Among African-Americans, the longevity benefit is still greater. The average life span of religious blacks is 14 years longer than that of their nonreligious peers.Studies on the effects of religious practice on annual death rates of various populations found that, after controlling for variables such as race, death rates for an age cohort (e.g., men age 59 or women age 71) were reduced by 28 percent to 46 percent (e.g., from 100 deaths per year to 72 deaths to 54 deaths) for that age group.

            An earlier review of 250 epidemiological health research studies found a reduced risk of colitis, different types of cancer, and untimely death among people with higher levels of religious commitment. Conversely, at any age, those who did not attend religious services had higher risks of dying from cirrhosis of the liver, emphysema, arteriosclerosis, and other cardiovascular diseases and were more likely to commit suicide, according to an even earlier review by faculty of the John Hopkins University School of Public Health. The most significant pathway by which religious practice delivers these longevity benefits is a lifestyle that reduces the risk of mortality from infectious diseases and diabetes by encouraging a support network among family and friends that helps to maintain a pattern of regimented care.

            Not only a person’s own religious practice, but also parents’ religious practice affects personal health. Adolescents whose mothers attended religious services at least weekly displayed better health, greater problem-solving skills, and higher overall satisfaction with their lives, regardless of race, gender, income, or family structure, according to a study of public school children in Baltimore.”

            “Religion and Community

            Religious practice benefits not only individuals, but also communities. Religiously active men and women are often more sensitive to others, more likely to serve and give to those in need, and more likely to be productive members of their communities.

            “Compassion and Charity. Religious practice is linked to greater generosity in charitable giving. In extensive research documenting the relationship between Religion and philanthropy, Arthur Brooks of Syracuse University demonstrated that religious practice correlates with a higher rate of care and concern for others. Compared with peers with no religious affiliation, religious respondents were 15 percent more likely to report having tender, concerned feelings for the disadvantaged. This gap was reduced by only 2 percent when the effects of education, income, marital status, sex, race, and age were taken into account.

            The correlation between Religion and increased charitable giving crosses ideological boundaries. When Brooks divided the survey population into quadrants of politically conservative, liberal, secular, and religious respondents, he found that the impact of Religion on compassion applied regardless of the political perspective. Religious conservatives were 6 percent more likely to be concerned about the disadvantaged than were secular liberals, while religious liberals were 24 percentage points more likely to express such feelings of compassion than were secular conservatives.

            Among the general survey population, religious individuals were 40 percent more likely than their secular counterparts to give money to charities and more than twice as likely to volunteer. Among those who felt compassion for the disadvantaged, religious respondents were 23 percentage points more likely to donate to charities at least yearly and 32 percentage points more likely to donate monthly than were their secular counterparts. They were 34 percentage points more likely to volunteer at least yearly and 22 percentage points more likely to volunteer monthly.”

            “Strong and repeated evidence indicates that the regular practice of Religion has beneficial effects in nearly every aspect of social concern and policy. This evidence shows that religious practice protects against social disorder and dysfunction.

            Specifically, the available data clearly indicate that religious belief and practice are associated with:

            Higher levels of marital happiness and stability;

            Stronger parent-child relationships;

            Greater educational aspirations and attainment, especially among the poor;

            Higher levels of good work habits;

            Greater longevity and physical health;

            Higher levels of well-being and happiness;

            Higher recovery rates from addictions to alcohol or drugs;

            Higher levels of self-control, self-esteem, and coping skills;

            Higher rates of charitable donations and volunteering; and

            Higher levels of community cohesion and social support for those in need.

            The evidence further demonstrates that religious belief and practice are also associated with:

            Lower divorce rates:

            Lower cohabitation rates;

            Lower rates of out-of-wedlock births;

            Lower levels of teen sexual activity;

            Less abuse of alcohol and drugs;

            Lower rates of suicide, depression, and suicide ideation;

            Lower levels of many infectious diseases;

            Less juvenile crime;

            Less violent crime; and

            Less domestic violence.”


          • Phipps Mike

            while some of this wall of text is correct. There is also a lot of HOGWASH included.
            There is a correlation of positive thought being within Christians but just believing in God is not to be credited. You can have depressed Christians that don’t fall into this category of living longer. Because chemicals are to blame for many mental illnesses, it has no correlation to beliefs. Mentally ill people will die faster. I also think its common sense that you can have just as much positive thought coming from atheists if they look at the glass as half full. Careful what all you will believe.

          • Gary

            One day soon, you will be sentenced by God to everlasting punishment. Meditation will not fix that.

          • brine, Amen. They don’t understand how evil those people have become… God always knows best and they dare question Him. I hope that NoGod4U would give God a chance and then He will see. They attack God but yet do not see the big picture of how evil those people have become. They think that God just decided one day He was going to do this… The warnings these people received, they can’t even see. They choose and pick what they want and use it as an attack of God.. But no matter how this world is now, God is not going away… They just think He will… If they do not believe in God, why are they hating on Him? That just makes no sense…. Satan will do all he can to corrupt the people because God loves them but satan cannot make a person act on anything. This is where “choice” comes in. These people are choosing a life without God and I don’t believe they can give one valid reason as to why they do not believe in Him and they don’t think He exist. Not one! Even with their twisted explanations and reasoning, I have not seen one yet that can give a “valid” response.. Some say, because God took their loved one… Well, Father God gave His one and only Son our Lord Jesus Christ to be ransom for the sins of the world. All will die, but it’s the second death that they don’t seem to understand. Once we die from this world, there is one final destination. It is either heaven or hell. Many has and is going down that wide road… Truly sad!

          • You have this all wrong… Do you know why God did this? Why are you so afraid of God? You are hating on Him as if He did something so bad to you. He died for you because He does not want you to perish. God gives you breath every day while you are still here and I truly hope and pray that you would learn about Him and accept Him. It does not matter what you think but there will be a day when you will stand before Him. I can tell you one thing, Madeleine O’Hare is no longer an Athiest, and I can be sure to tell you that she knows that there is a God…You still have a chance… Who ever you are God knows you, and we will be praying for you! God Bless.

          • MC

            If you’re going to use the “stoning of children” argument, at least understand what it says. It’s NOT stoning of little kids, it’s stoning of a parents child as an adult. How many little kids do you know who are drunkards and gluttons? And this is even AFTER he has been chastised and warned but refused to change his law breaking ways. He, the ADULT child has broken the law.

          • Phipps Mike

            “it’s stoning of a parents child as an adult.”

            wrong again as usual.

            Deuteronomy 21:18-21New International Version (NIV)

            A Rebellious Son

            18 If someone has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and motherand will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, “This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a glutton and a drunkard.” 21 Then all the men of his town are to stone him to death. You must purge the evil from among you. All Israel will hear of it and be afraid.

            Notice there is no age specified. Give it up. Also nothing is mentioned against the law, there.

          • MC

            Oh Mr. Thin Skin, I find it cute that you want to pretend you know what you’re talking about. Let me rip your argument,

            “Also nothing is mentioned against the law, there.”

            Gee, lets take a look at this closer, shall we?

            Deuteronomy 21:18 (NASB)
            “If any man has a stubborn and rebellious
            son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he
            will not even listen to them,

            Let’s see, he broke the 5th commandment:

            Deuteronomy 5:16 (NASB)

            ‘Honor your father and your mother, as the LORD your God has commanded you, that your days may be prolonged and that it may go well with you on the land which the LORD your God gives you.

            The first law their SON broke was the 5th Commandment, then he is also a glutton which is a sin,

            Proverbs 23:20 (NASB)
            Do not be with heavy drinkers of wine, Or with gluttonous eaters of meat;

            Proverbs 23:21 (NASB)
            For the heavy drinker and the glutton will
            come to poverty, And drowsiness will clothe one with

            Proverbs 23:2 (NASB)
            And put a knife to your throat If you are a man of great appetite.

            Then, he was ALSO a drunkard, which is a sin,

            Isaiah 5:11 (NASB)
            Woe to those who rise early in the morning that
            they may pursue strong drink, Who stay up late in the
            evening that wine may inflame them!

            Ephesians 5:18 (NASB)
            And do not get drunk with wine, for that is
            dissipation, but be filled with the Spirit,

            Proverbs 23:29-35 (NASB)
            [Pr 29]
            Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has
            contentions? Who has complaining? Who has wounds
            without cause? Who has redness of eyes?
            [30] Those who linger
            long over wine, Those who go to taste mixed wine.

            [31] Do not look
            on the wine when it is red, When it sparkles in the cup,
            When it goes down smoothly;
            [32] At the last it
            bites like a serpent And stings like a viper.
            [33] Your eyes will see
            strange things And your mind will utter perverse
            And you will be like one who lies down in the middle of the sea,
            Or like one who lies down on the top of a mast.
            [35] “They struck me,
            but I did not become ill; They beat me, but I
            did not know it. When shall I awake?
            I will seek another drink.”

            Who are some of the people who won’t inherit the kingdom of God?

            1 Corinthians 6:10 (NASB)
            nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor
            drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God.

            THEN, when they chastise him, he doesn’t listen, so we know it’s not a one time problem but an ongoing problem of rebellion, so they have no choice but to bring him before the elders, and an investigation was underway, they found the son guilty. In the days of the ancient Israelites, the sons took care of their parents, making sure the parents were taken care of in old age. This son of theirs did nothing to help his parents, he was rebellious, gluttonous, and a drunkard. He brought shame on his parents.

            “Notice there is no age specified.”

            HAHAHAHA! Again, how many gluttonous drunkard children do you know? A parent will call their offspring a “child” no matter how old they are. Do your parents tell people, “This is my youngest child, his name is…” or, “This is my firstborn child, his name is…” or, “I have 3 children, their ages are, 24, 27, and 31.”

            Next time you want to pull out a Scripture verse, try understanding it in CONTEXT, then you won’t look like a fool.

          • James Grimes

            You have a knack for putting these fools down through the CORRECT interpretation of the Scripture verses they want to use against us. Their little minds can’t comprehend that every word in His Word was written with purpose, as in 2 Tim. 3:16.

          • MC

            Thanks Brother! I just think of,

            1 Corinthians 2:14 (NASB)
            But a natural man does not accept the
            things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot
            understand them, because they are spiritually appraised.

            That’s why they’ll never understand Scripture, never.

          • James Grimes

            Look at the insults, especially from the self – assuming all – knowing critic. Any site such as this will attract these babbling pseudo “christian” toilet theologians. Their knowledge of God’s Word is very limited, but dangerous for what it lacks – genuine love for the Lord.

            I had blocked Phipps Mike and a host of other militant Atheists when Christian News was linked to Facebook.

          • Phipps Mike

            Not interested! har har har

          • Phipps Mike

            a “fool” thinks that all commandments are “laws”.
            Not inheriting the kingdom of God is hardly a jail cell.

            There was no drinking age and any teenager could drink as they do now. Is that a newsflash to you? stop ASSUMING. Maybe when you give up being a brainless Republicant, you will grow a brain.

          • MC

            “a “fool” thinks that all commandments are “laws”.Not inheriting the kingdom of God is hardly a jail cell.”

            Gee Mr. Thin Skin, we’re not talking about modern laws here are we? We’re talking about a situation that happened in the time of the ancient Israelites. Not inheriting the Kingdom of God means separation from God for eternity, so yes it’s not a jail cell, it is unimaginably worse. They might not be laws of the land now, but they are God’s Laws which are unchanging. Of course, your failure to understand the argument does not surprise me one bit. LOL!

            “There was no drinking age and any teenager could drink as they do now. Is that a newsflash to you? stop ASSUMING. Maybe when you give up being a brainless Republicant, you will grow a brain.”

            You keep thinking that Mr. Obtuse and every theologian and ancient historian will just keep laughing at you. Thank you for proving that basic logic and critical thinking skills waved bye-bye to you a LONG time ago.

          • Phipps Mike

            that the best you can do? all of that and you proved nothing. A law is NOT Gods….EVER, Law is MAN made. Commandments are NOT law because they are GOD made. You totally lost on both points. Teens whom are minors who can drink ARE children. My point stands with that as well as with what law IS.

          • MC

            “that the best you can do? all of that and you proved nothing. A law is NOT Gods….EVER, Law is MAN made.”

            The commandments were made by God for his people.

            “Commandments are NOT law because they are GOD made.”

            Again, God gave us the commandments.

            “You totally lost on both points”

            No, you just don’t understand the argument, it goes over your head.

            “Teens whom are minors who can drink ARE children.”

            And where does it say, “minors”? All it says is, “SON”,

            Deuteronomy 21:18 (NASB)
            “If any man has a stubborn and rebellious
            son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he
            will not even listen to them,

            Deuteronomy 21:19-20 (NASB)
            [Dt 19]
            then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to
            the elders of his city at the gateway of his hometown.
            [20] “They shall say to
            the elders of his city, ‘This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will
            not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard.’

            Again, show me that this “SON”, is a “minor”?

          • Phipps Mike

            because the script does not specify, it is left up to the interpretation of the reader to use their own best judgement. I go by how much more mature teens were back then . Even further into the future from the biblical times, the suits of armor were small. Because the average age of a knight was 14-16 years old.

            We will have to just agree to disagree because there is no real PROOF of the age of the “son” or sons in question. I just think that since its a commandment from God that would include ALL sons, it has to afford the different ages, not just adults.

          • James Grimes

            MC, thanks for setting the fool straight (pun intended). This is one of the misused Bible verses by Atheists who think they can use Scripture against us. (***The most misused and abused Scripture verse is Matthew 7:1).

            These fools (Proverbs 26:4) don’t ever spend time in studying God’s Word and simply go to an online Bible and simply copy and paste. I love it when they tell us we are incorrect in the interpretation we use here to point out there falsehoods.

            Anyway, thanks for sharing.

          • MC

            No problem. I love burning down their straw man arguments and exposing their dismal Biblical knowledge. It amazes me they have no idea what “context” means.

      • Eggshan

        The next “civil rights” movement will be pedophiles’ “civil rights”, it’s already starting (was inevitable with the spread of / promotion of sodomy aka “gay marriage”), check out the NYT article from a few days ago calling for a soft stance / approach to pedophiles.

        Homosexual / sodomy activist Dan Savage actually wrote an article about what he described as “good pedophiles”

        • brine

          Scripturally pedophilia is a form of homosexuality and as one of their leaders stated (unfortunately I don’t have the quote in front of me to give you that name) that a ‘relationship’ between an adult and child is the purest form of love. You have had ‘psychologists’ following the lead with the homosexual fight previously and stating ‘you can’t help who you are attracted to since it is just a biological function’ and that pedophilia is just another form of love we need to grow accustomed to.

          • Phipps Mike

            “pedophilia is a form of homosexuality ”
            no its not, its not even comparable. Pedophilia is also when opposite sexes are molested. Geesh some people need a brain.

      • alnga

        You nailed it dead on and we must all take our stand against this travesty.

      • Phipps Mike

        Brine, you do know that Christians cant CHANGE the world NOR avoid the apocalypse. (I hope you know that)

    • NoGod4U

      Why is it when the issue of equality in marriage is discussed it is the Christians who seem to be fascinated with animals and incest? As for your implied distaste for polygamy you might want to actually read your bible.

      • brine

        God never was okay with polygamy and warned of the results of multiplying wives…and the consequences happened just as God said they would when they ignored His warnings. It is called rightly dividing the Word…

        • NoGod4U

          So I guess God didn’t personally give David (a man after God’s own heart by the way) all his wives and concubines… even though your bible says he did?

          • brine

            God didn’t give…David took.

          • brine

            And he was a man after God’s own heart because when he realized his errors he repented…Psalm 51

          • NoGod4U

            God restores David – “And I GAVE (that’s God speaking) thee thy master’s house,
            and thy master’s wives into thy bosom,
            and GAVE thee the house of Israel and of Judah;
            and if that had been too little,
            I would moreover have GIVEN unto thee such and such things.”
            2 Samuel 12:8

            Pretty sad when an atheist has to point out that you don’t know your bible huh?

        • Evolution is a fact

          What about Solomon?

    • Phipps Mike

      tired unrealistic overly used defense. all but one are illegal so cant be compared. Get a clue.

    • John Daniell

      Your mistake is in assuming that marriage has a set definition.

      Based on that assumption, early marriages with many wives were the purest form of marriage (Solomon, anyone?). Legal marriage will always be between two humans, period, because humans are the only things on this planet capable of consent to marriage. Suggesting anything else is silly.

      Personally, my preference as an atheist is to give the title of marriage to religious people. I wouldn’t mind that at all. Then, we could say that every marriage under law is now a “civil union” in the eyes of the government so that anyone who gets a legal civil union has equal rights.

      The issue is that gay couples aren’t afforded equal legal rights. Most of them care less, probably, about definitions of terms. I think a good compromise would be to make marriages strictly religious ceremonies that are viewed as civil unions under the law, where all civil unions are all granted equal rights under the law, though nobody is necessarily calling it marriage under the law.

      Gays get equal rights, religious folk are allowed to keep something they consider a sacrament as holy. Doesn’t that sound reasonable? Thoughts, anyone?

      • robertzaccour

        I agree with part of that. I believe government should not be involved in marriage at all. In fact giving married people tax breaks seems like discrimination against single people. But main idea is that they should stay out of it period.

        • John Daniell

          The discrimination point is an interesting one that I haven’t though of, though the fact that married couples tend to have greater financial responsibilities and that there are certain liabilities that come with marriage inherently seems to justify the tax breaks.

          I would be totally okay with government detaching itself from marriage. I don’t really see it happening, but if it could put everyone that wants to have a meaningful relationship with another human (regardless of gender) on an equal plane as far as rights are concerned, I’m all for it. That, of course, is independent of religious opinion on gay marriage. I think religious people most certainly have the right to say gay marriage is wrong if they truly believe it, just as others have the right to agree or disagree. That belief, though, absolutely cannot be dictated as a law. The issue is that giving gays equal marital rights is being spun as a reduction of religious liberty, which is ludicrous. Nobody is forcing believers to accept the marriage, only to allow them the same rights afforded to every other human being. It is like saying abolishing Jim Crow laws caused a reduction in the ability for Caucasian males to exercise their dominance in society. Well, of course it did, but that didn’t make what they were doing moral. I’ve seen plenty of Christians (and people of other faith, as my girlfriend’s parents are Buddhist and even they are torn on the issue of sexuality) rationalize gay marriage in a variety of ways. At the end of the day, though, that debate is an internal struggle within the religion, not one that should be fought through legislation that affects people who don’t even adhere to the faith. Thanks for the reply!

  • dongszkie

    If Huckabee knows only what is it to be a politician, and what is christianity, he won’t be there.

  • MC

    I’m glad that Huckabee is standing on Godly principles, I’m with him. Republicans and some Christians have to stop being cowards!

    • James Grimes

      I have always liked MR since he was governor. There is no deception in what he believes and expresses openly. For this reason Liberals can’t stand him. Honesty is something that will never understand.

  • SFBruce

    Gov. Huckabee may find himself in an ever dwindling minority. A recent Pew Poll showed that 61% of Republicans under the age of 30 support same sex marriage.

    • Gary

      I would rather side with God than with the wicked. Even if I am in the minority.

      • SFBruce

        My guess is that most of those Republicans don’t consider LGBT equality wickedness; I think they consider it a moral position.

      • James Grimes

        If 500 million people said same sex “marriage” was OK, it would still be completely wrong.

        • Phipps Mike

          Only wrong by biblical standards if you can stretch the script to mean that.

  • Gary

    No real Christian will ever support homosexuality, or ssm. Supporting candidates who support ssm is the same as supporting ssm.

    • NoGod4U

      Oh ya just gotta love those “Real Christians” like Westboro Baptist Church.

      • James Grimes

        What would you know? Your hatred for Christians has clouded your judgment.

        • NoGod4U

          Is that your assertion that YOU are the “Real Christian”?

          • alnga

            Just for your benefit you might want to read chapter one of Romans. We all are given the rights to own our opinions and to express them clearly. In the past fifty plus years I have been both a doubter and a strong believer so I understand some of both sides. I am a stronger believer today at 74 for than ever before.. My renewal comes from scriptures. .

        • Phipps Mike

          and your hatred of gays aligns you with Fred Phelps, James. That’s sad. Especially how Fred dissed the military too and you served.

      • Gary

        Jesus, John the Baptist, all of the Apostles, and every Christian I have ever known have opposed homosexuality in any form.

      • Nancy Sternberg

        Westboro Baptist “Church” are not Christians at all. True Christians do not hold a sign saying “You’re going to hell” and smile about it. They have done much damage. No Christian that understands hell wants anybody to go there.

    • James Grimes

      Absolutely correct!

    • Anella

      I absolutely agree which is why I’m not a democrat or republican.

    • Jerry Burrell

      well said Gary

  • Kathy Starke Hickman

    What are all the petitions doing that I sign every day to go against same sex marriage or abortion…does it do me any good to fight the fight this way…I thought we have a voice in these petitions that I couldn’t have alone

    • NoGod4U

      The scale has tipped in America same as it did for interracial marriage back in the 60’s and 70’s. You’re obviously free to have a voice, but your voice is rapidly becoming the minority opinion.

      • Rose

        We maybe becoming the minority opinion but at least we’re right, and at least we’re siding with God despite what the rest of the world thinks.

      • Benita Kimberly Bylicki-Marzio

        That’s ok NoGod4U, keep believing the lie, keep drinking the Kool-Aid, you will find very soon that your voice will also rapidly will be extinguished , read history, its not only the religious who are silenced, but the homosexuals, the liberal, and free thinkers…he who laughs first, will be the last to laugh.

    • John Daniell

      Well, this makes me want to vomit.

      Your petitions aren’t going anywhere because that isn’t how petitions work. You can’t just petition for people to have less rights than you. “Petitions” aren’t an end all be all for the law. It doesn’t do you any good to fight that way because you are on the completely wrong side of history, just like those against the civil rights movement were in the sixties, and those who are against the women’s rights movement that is still going on today.

  • Eggshan

    Check out results of the latest Pew Research poll on support for the homosexual mental illness, support is declining and fast. People are starting to wake up to what these perverts really are.

    “scratch the average homosexual and you’ll find a pedophile” – Kevin Bishop

    • MC


      “The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%—4%)”

      “A study by Abel et al. of 377 non incarcerated, non-incest-related pedophiles, whose legal situations had been resolved and who were surveyed using an anonymous self-report questionnaire, found that heterosexual pedophiles on average reported abusing 19.8 children and committing 23.2 acts, whereas homosexual pedophiles had abused 150.2 children and committed 281.7 acts.”

      Abel GG, Becker JV, Mittelman M, Cunningham-Rathner J, Rouleau JL, Murphy WD. Self-reported sex crimes of nonincarcerated paraphiliacs. J Interpers Violence . 1987; 2: 3— 25.

      “This article will present data gathered by the authors through structured clinical interviews of 561 paraphiliacs regarding demographic characteristics, frequency and variety of deviant sexual acts, and number and characteristics of victims. Results show that nonincarcerated sex offenders (1) are well educated and socioeconomically diverse; (2) report an average number of crimes and victims that is substantially higher than that represented in the current literature; and (3) sexually molest young boys with an incidence that is five times greater than the molestation of young girls. The relevance of these findings is discussed.”

      “Heterosexual pedophiles, in self-report studies, have on average abused 5.2 children and committed an average of 34 sexual acts vs homosexual pedophiles who have on average abused 10.7 children and committed an average of 52 acts. Bisexual offenders have on average abused 27.3 children and committed more than 120 acts. A study by Abel et al.”

      Murray JB. Psychological profile of pedophiles and child molesters. J Psychol . 2000; 134: 211— 224.

      Cohen LJ, Galynker II. Clinical features of pedophilia and implications for treatment. J Psychiatr Pract . 2002; 8: 276— 289.

      “This finding does not imply that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, ***just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual in orientation***to children”.

      Blanchard R, Barbaree HE, Bogaert AF, et al. Fraternal birth order and sexual orientation in pedophiles. Arch Sex Behav . 2000; 29: 463— 478.

      “A study by Blanchard et al. evaluated the intelligence of 679 pedophilic subjects and found that the mean intelligence rating of bisexual and homosexual pedophiles was significantly lower than heterosexual offenders (either pedophile or teleiophile). The main factor for this difference in intellectual functioning was a higher percentage of subjects with borderline and full cognitive impairment in the bisexual and homosexual populations”.

      Blanchard R, Watson MS, Choy A, et al. Pedophiles: mental retardation, maternal age, and sexual orientation. Arch Sex Behav . 1999; 28: 111— 127.

      “Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually.”

      “Individuals who engage in homosexual pedophilia were more likely to have been abused than individuals who engage in heterosexual pedophilia.”

      “In 1987, Dr. Stephen Rubin of Whitman College conducted a ten-state study of sex abuse cases involving school teachers. He studied 199 cases. Of those, 122 male teachers had molested girls, while 14 female teachers had molested boys. He also discovered that 59 homosexual male teachers had molested boys and four female homosexual teachers had molested girls. In other words, 32 percent of those child molestation cases involved homosexuals. Nearly a third of these cases come from only 1-2% of the population.”

      “The Los Angeles Times conducted a survey in 1985 of 2,628 adults across the U.S. Of those, 27% of the women and 16% of the men had been sexually molested. Seven percent of the girls and 93% of the men had been molested by adults of the same sex. This means that 40% of child molestations were by homosexuals. (Los Angeles Times, August 25-6, 1985)

      In 1984, a Vermont survey of 161 adolescents who were sex offenders found that 35 of them were homosexuals (22%). (Wasserman, J., “Adolescent Sex Offenders—Vermont, 1984” Journal American Medical Association, 1986; 255:181-2)

      In 1991, of the 100 child molesters at the Massachusetts Treatment Center for Sexually Dangerous Persons, a third were heterosexual, a third were bisexual, and a third were homosexual. (Dr. Raymond Knight, “Differential Prevalence of Personality Disorders in Rapists and Child Molesters,” Eastern Psychological Association Conference, New York, April 12, 1991)

      Drs. Freund and Heasman of the Clark Institute of Psychiatry in Toronto reviewed two studies on child molesters and calculated that 34% and 32% of the sex offenders were homosexual. In cases these doctors had handled, 36% of the molesters were homosexuals. (Freund, K. “Pedophilia and Heterosexuality vs. Homosexuality,” Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy, 1984; 10:193-200)

      From these studies and many more, it is evident that homosexuals molest children at a far greater rate than do their heterosexual counterparts. While they comprise only 1-2% of the population, they are responsible for upwards of a third or more of all sexual molestations of children.”

      • Phipps Mike

        My wife is an advocate and has her own non profit corp that deals specifically with abused people including both adults and children. I also have 3 years expertise in this field:

        “The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%,”

        no such thing as a “homosexual pedophile”.
        There is no SEXUAL attraction for the pedophile. The “innocence” is what is attractive to the pedophile. The sex is not a consideration whatsoever for ANY classical diagnosed true pedophile, Situational offenders are NOT true pedophiles by the clinical definition.

        The old wives tale that true homosexual men being a great risk for being a pedophile is 100% wrong.

        Pedophiles seek PRE-pubescent children. Homosexuals that are linked to NAMBLA seek those already in puberty (hebephiles). Now you could use your posted percentage for hebephiles but NOT pedophiles.

    • MC

      And don’t forget, the sicko who started NAMBLA was an atheist. Figures.

      • Phipps Mike

        how many homosexuals from (Nambla) do you think are GOING to be Christians? They know that sex with minors is wrong even by man’s law, let alone Gods. Even if you remove the Nambla members, What homosexual is actually invited in to Churches? (emphasizing the word invite). There are Churches that ACCEPT gays, but I don’t hear of any inviting them in. Even to try and attempt to “cure” them. (which cant be done anyway). I respect anybody else’s right to believe whatever they want to in as far as how we came to be because there is NO PROOF from any side how we came to be. Even though I think many religions are quacky, I cant prove them wrong.

  • Jeffery Kinkead

    2 Chronicles 7:14 is the answer to America the ungodly:
    America the ungodly: http://youtu.be/Er5bvvHhSNg

  • Ken

    I think what is the worst part is, history has shown what happens. What happens when we embrace failure,

  • BAR

    Rock on Huckabee! I stand with you.

  • Digiadam

    This guy has hit the nail on the head and is absolutely correct!!!!

    May God bless him for this.

  • Benita Kimberly Bylicki-Marzio

    I started as an Independent, and changed to Republican when they at one time were actually a family , God and country party,, I agree with Mike Huckabee, if we lose to the socialist democrats again, because the republican party no longer has the guts to do whats right, then I will go back to the Independents, right now the Republican party is no better than the democratic party, Shame on you Repubs for selling out the American people….

  • Phipps Mike

    “Huckabee, a former Southern Baptist minister,”
    Southern Baptists should be on our target list along with ISIS.
    There is nothing more vile than that lot. Huckleberry Hound should just sing the saddest song while playing the worlds smallest violin….booo-hooooo.

  • Anella

    “Worse followed. Refusing to know God, they soon didn’t know how to be human either—women didn’t know how to be women, men didn’t know how to be men. Sexually confused, they abused and defiled one another, women with women, men with men—all lust, no love…” Romans 1:26-27 MSG

  • BarkingDawg

    The Huckleberry:

    “I’m gone

    No seriously, I’m leaving.

    Did you hear me? I’m leaving. Hey! listen to me.

    I’m going to leave now!

    Good bye! I’m out of here! Are you listening? Hey is anyone there? I’m going now.

    You’ll be sorry when I’m gone.

    I’m walking out the door now. LISTEN TO ME DAMIT! I said I was leaving.

    I’m going to stand here all day until you tell me not to leave! did you hear that! I’m LEAVING Why arenn’t you paying attention to me? I’m out of here!”
    . . . Repeat refrain.

  • BarkingDawg

    The Huckleberry:

    “Hey Alaska! Did you hear me? I’m leaving now.”

    Hey! Is anyone listening? In gone!

    You won’t be able to listen to me anymore once I’ve left.

    Good bye!

    Did you hear that? I said “good bye!”

    I’m leaving now. Are you paying attention to me yet?”

  • John Daniell

    Fine, don’t support it. Just don’t legislate based on religion. In Indonesia a man just received 100 public lashes and was mocked for being homosexual. If that happens in our country, I’m gone.

    Take it from someone who was raised a believer and no longer is one, though still is very close friends with my former pastor (seriously, dude just got his doctorate. I love the guy). Organizations like the AFA are exactly what is holding back Christianity from growing in the modern world. The “The bible says it is bad, therefore it must be bad” Euthyphronian argument just doesn’t work anymore. People care more about hard facts and are generally becoming more accepting in the western world. I may not love religion, but I acknowledge that we all have the freedom to believe whatever we like. I love that. Be thoughtful. Be accepting. Avoid ethnocentrism and base your judgments on actions based on their consequences and affect on reality, not ancient laws. We wear mixed fabrics, do we not? We can all grow and thrive if we drop the assumption that the opposing side is our enemy. Fundamentalism like this WILL kill the religion if it continues, I promise.

    • Gary

      Real Christians believe and follow the Bible. That is what we do. The Bible is rejected by you non-Christians. You want to be your own god and make your own rules, and you don’t want anyone objecting to what you want to do.

  • Gary

    Most republicans have already surrendered on ssm. I expect that opposition to it will be removed from the platform, probably no later than 2016. They won’t stand up to the courts. Most of them agree that the courts rule the country, even though there are supposed to be three equal branches of government. Many of the federal judges who are ruling that ssm is a constitutional right were appointed by republicans.

    • BarkingDawg

      Most Christian ministers will be regularly and, voluntarily performing same sex marriages in a few years. Just like most will perform interracial marriages now.

  • BarkingDawg

    Has he left yet?

  • Henry Dandria

    “Although they have known the ordinance of God ,they have not understood that those who practice such things are deserving of death.and not only do they do these things but they applaud others doing them ” ROMANS 1.32. Christians should do what The B V M had told the household at Cana to do at the wedding when stewards were running short of wine ,namely:” Do whatever He tells you to do “.Christians obey God not man.