The Man Who Died Preaching on the Titanic

(Evangelical Focus) God’s servants are everywhere. One such man went by the name of John Harper.

As the renowned steam-liner Titanic hit a deadly iceberg on the Atlantic strait that fateful night, 14th April 1912, Harper cried out for women, children and the unconverted to quickly get onto the lifeboats. He even gave his own life jacket away knowing that such an act meant certain death alongside another 1,500 helpless passengers.

In his moving and highly recommended book, “The Titanic’s Last Hero” (2012), Moody Adams records the powerful testimony of the last convert John Harper won for the Lord.

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  • Grace Kim Kwon

    Human history is full of the sacrificial Christian missionaries. God’s heroes are forever. Never forget and follow their steps.

  • antifasciste

    He should have prayed for the ship to keep floating.

    • Coach

      Prayer is not a magic incantation to change the course of events, but rather true prayer is the cry of a converted heart to a sovereign Lord.

      • antifasciste

        That’s not what your religious text claims Matthew 17:20

        • InTheChurch

          Your bible knowledge will guarantee God an easy case when you are before Him. Incompetency and ignorance is out the door. enjoy your day in court.

          • Amos Moses

            not much to argue when your mouth is agape and NOTHING comes out ……..

          • Chris

            You’re assuming, surely, that knowledge of the bible counts for anything with God.

          • InTheChurch

            I would say that, yes. It’s like an attorney that commits a crime and then tries to plead incompetent before the judge.

          • Chris

            Unless there were a hundred different versions of the law code and no way to tell which was the right one. Then the judge could well excuse the attorney on the grounds that he had no real way to know which, if any, was the correct version.

          • InTheChurch

            LOL, great response. Knowing what you believe and your faith, that was a great response. I am laughing loud and my co-worker is giving me a crazy look.
            Let’s assume, we are talking about God from the Bible, only one God. Then only one law and no excuse or justification to plead incompetent.
            That was funny. I’m crying.

          • Chris

            “Let’s assume, we are talking about God from the Bible, only one God.”

            Ok.

            “Then only one law and no excuse or justification to plead incompetent”

            Considering how many denominations there are with their own interpretation of that ‘one law’ I don’t know about that.

          • InTheChurch

            Most, if not all, our denominations, in my view, believe in the God of the Bible. Of course with some modifications. You have to admit, you nailed that post. I still smile just thinking about it.

          • Chris

            Many thanks

        • Coach

          And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. But rather fear Him who is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. 29 Are not two sparrows sold for a copper coin? And not one of them falls to the ground apart from your Father’s will.

          God’s sovereign over all things, He doesn’t reign in heaven waiting for people to pray, He moves His people to pray. God truly has free will, man is dependent upon God even in the act of praying. For instance, I could pray for every sick person in the world to be healed, but it would’ve happen, because the prayer would be inconsistent with God’s Word.

          Had those people all survived the Titanic, they would’ve still eventually died, as the entire world is under the curse of sin, therefore, all die.

          • Chris

            “Had those people all survived the Titanic, they would’ve still eventually died,…”

            So did every person whom Jesus was said to have healed. Your point?

          • Coach

            The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness of those who suppress the truth in unrighteousness. You say Jesus claimed to heal, because you deny that He did heal. What’s easier healing someone or raising someone from the dead? Jesus perfectly fulfilled the law of God, which you and I have not only broken, but never kept. He was crucified, the wrath of God being poured out on His Son in full measure on behalf of His people, but the Father raised Him from the grave on the third day. The greatest crime would be to break the greatest law, the greatest punishment would be from the greatest authority. The greatest law is to love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength. Jesus, the God-man, did this perfectly every second, not one second has any man born of Adam done this perfectly. In addition, apart from God opening the eyes, man does as you do, deny and speak against God exalting themselves. You must change your mind about God, right now you hate what God loves and love what God hates. The major problem is that while God holds and sustains your life, your foot shall slide in due time, you are this moment storing up wrath for the day of judgment. There will be no laughter in the flames of hell. It burns to do push-ups for a minute, but just think 10 seconds in hell will be greater anguish than all the suffering in the world combined and after a billion years, you will be no closer to relief than you were that first millisecond of agony. God is holy, He will not be mocked, so you can type all the sarcastic statements you want, but you will only add to your condemnation. You must deny your self, your supposed goodness, works, etc. take up your cross, and follow the Lord Jesus Christ, through whom the universe was created, by whom the world will be judged, and of whom there is forgiveness of sin and eternal life. You love your sin, but it will cost you your soul if you don’t reject it and look to Jesus. God is infinitely holy, infinitely worthy and the worst thing a person can do is look to themselves, rather than looking to Jesus Christ as the all sufficient Savior.

          • Chris

            “The wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness of those who suppress the truth in unrighteousness.”

            So the bible’s saying that fundie Christians are making God angry? Interesting.

            “You say Jesus claimed to heal, because you deny that He did heal.”

            Actually what I wrote was “So did every person whom Jesus was said to have healed.” An anonymous author was making the claim.

            “What’s easier healing someone or raising someone from the dead?”

            Which is easier claiming someone was healed or claiming that they were raised from the dead? That’s all we have – claims.

            You then go on to assert the doctrine of the atonement. Yes I know you believe that but there’s no evidence for any of it only claims that it happened. The claims may be true but they remain claims.

            “you hate what God loves and love what God hates.”

            Isn’t it amazing that you don’t even know me but you can state what I love and hate.

            You then mention the doctrine of hell. Sorry but my conception of God does NOT include Someone who tortures others forever for thoughts or minor actions.

          • Coach

            You have formed a god out of your own imagination, to fit your wicked heart. You don’t want evidence for the atonement, you want an excuse for your unbelief. You deny the truth of scripture because to admit the truth that you suppress would cost you what you hold onto dearly.

            For the Scripture says to the Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I may show My power in you, and that My name may be declared in all the earth.” Therefore He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens.

            You will say to me then, “Why does He still find fault? For who has resisted His will?” But indeed, O man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to him who formed it, “Why have you made me like this?” Does not the potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?

            What if God, wanting to show His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath prepared for destruction and that He might make known the riches of His glory on the vessels of mercy, which He had prepared beforehand for glory, even us whom He called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles? Romans 9:17-24

          • Chris

            Please tell me more about myself. It’s amazing how well you know what I think and feel when you’ve never even met me.

          • Coach

            No, judgement from me Chris, but the Bible is a mirror, revealing the truth about man. Jesus said if you look at a woman to lust after her, you’ve committed adultry with her in your heart, if you’ve been angry at someone without a cause, you’re a murderer. Have you stolen anything or lied?
            You’ve broken God’s law Chris and you have nothing to say on judgement day, you simply spend your short life arrogantly denying the truth. Why?

          • Chris

            “No, judgement from me Chris, but the Bible is a mirror, revealing the
            truth about man.”

            I’ll just put that through my fundie translator…You think that by giving YOUR interpretation of some verses and applying them to me you avoid responsibility for judging me. Interesting.

            “Jesus said if you look at a woman to lust after her,
            you’ve committed adultry with her in your heart, if you’ve been angry at
            someone without a cause, you’re a murderer.”

            Actually Jesus never said that. Someone said that Jesus said that. It’s called hearsay.

            “Have you stolen anything or
            lied”

            Ah the old Ray Comfort good person test.
            Allow me to ask you a question first.

            You believe that everyone has lied correct?
            And we don’t trust liars because they might be lying to us correct?
            Then that must mean that we can’t trust you OR the bible.
            After all, according to you, you must be a liar and so are the people who wrote the bible.
            Now you’re probably going to reply “God wrote the bible”.
            According to who? You? But you’re a liar. Or according to the liars who wrote the bible?

            The good person test is one of the best arguments AGAINST Christianity I’ve ever heard.

          • Coach

            The Bible is the Word of God, it is impossible for God to lie, Holy men of God wrote the Bible as they were moved along by the Holy Spirit. Chris, you will be judged by the truth you deny. You can stand in the middle of a highway and come up with all sorts of arguments of why you won’t be hit by the oncoming tractor trailer, but they will come to nothing when reality hits. Chris, unless God in His mercy opens your eyes, you will spend all of eternity regretting how you rejected the truth and went so far as to get on a Christian website to do so.
            Answer me this, what in the Bible do you not believe?

          • Chris

            “The Bible is the Word of God,…”

            Yes that’s what you believe about the bible, but it remains a belief until you have supporting evidence.

            “it is impossible for God to lie, …”

            How do you know? Someone claimed that God couldn’t lie. But since the bible also records God deceiving people then it would seem He does. At least according to the bible.

            “Holy men of God wrote the Bible as they were moved along by the Holy Spirit.”

            At least according to your beliefs they did. Once again they remain beliefs until you have supporting evidence.

            The rest is just you assuming that you can’t be wrong so everything you believe MUST be right. Sorry but that’s ego worship and little else.

          • Coach

            If I gave you enough evidence to support the God of the Bible, would you worship Him?

          • Chris

            Enough evidence to show that the God of the bible exists? No. Evidence would also have to be produced that certain questionable actions apparently ordered by God were morally correct. Then you would give me pause And I would have to think long and hard.

          • Coach

            Chris, evidence wouldn’t cause you to worship God. Evidence is for a judge, on judgement day, you will be the one needing a defense, God doesn’t have to prove anything to you.
            You don’t need evidence, you need regeneration. Satan himself has more knowledge of God than any living person, yet he directs worship of any and everything but the true and living God.

          • Chris

            “Chris, evidence wouldn’t cause you to worship God.”

            Then why did you offer it?

            “Evidence is for a
            judge, on judgement day, you will be the one needing a defense, God
            doesn’t have to prove anything to you.”

            No. Evidence is also for a scholar or a scientist seeking answers to their questions.
            Secondly I wasn’t aware I was talking to God. I thought I was conversing with you.

            “You don’t need evidence, you
            need regeneration.”

            Once again why did you offer evidence if you didn’t mean to supply any? You do normally offer something you have no intention of supplying?

          • Chris

            Strangely when Thomas asked for evidence he was given some.

          • Coach

            According to your beliefs, he didn’t.

            Thomas doubted, but he was not a blaspheming skeptic, he was a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ.

            God reveals Himself to whomever He wills, while the rest, He gives them what they want and they don’t want God.

            You don’t want God, how do I know this about you, because God told me you have a wicked heart.

            Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, And desperately wicked; Who can know it?

            Unless, God gives you a new heart, you will continue on your path to eternal destruction

            Ezekiel 36:26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; I will take the heart of stone out of your flesh and give you a heart of flesh.

          • Chris

            “According to your beliefs, he didn’t.”

            Correct up to a point. More correctly I should have claimed that the gospels claim that Thomas asked for evidence.

            “Thomas doubted, but he was not a blaspheming skeptic, he was a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ.”

            You were warned about using insulting language. See ya.

          • Coach

            What exactly do you suppose I lose? You come on a Christian website blaspheming and you expect not to be insulted.

            You are a blaspheming skeptic, meaning you lie against the truth you refuse to believe.

          • Chris

            “Answer me this, what in the Bible do you not believe?”

            Let’s see. The morality it displays is questionable, its history isn’t supported by archaeology or any other branch of science. How about those two for starters?

          • Coach

            So you just told me that you don’t believe the Bible, but you’ve never read it, you just heard one of your atheistic leaders say it’s false, so you follow their lead.
            The main issue is you completely dodged my question. I’m arguing the Bible is completely true and you’re arguing that it’s not, but you refuse to tell me which parts you have issue with.
            In order to say that it’s not supported by archaeology or any other branch of science, you make assumptions. One, you assume that the Bible is not supported by archaeology because you said it’s not, but you’re pretty full of yourself, so that’s expected. Two, you assume that all truth begins with scientific branches. Three, why would you question the Bible’s morality, when you reject moral absolutes.

          • Chris

            “So you just told me that you don’t believe the Bible, but you’ve never
            read it, you just heard one of your atheistic leaders say it’s false, so
            you follow their lead.”

            Assumption after assumption.

            1) I’ve not only read the bible several times but I’ve studied it at a uni level.

            2) I’m not an atheist. I’m a Zoroastrian.

            So I’m not repeating anything. I know the lack of archaeological support for events such as the Exodus or the invasion of Canaan. I also think a morality which seeks to justify the murder of little children is highly questionable.

            I did? Could you be a bit more specific in your question then?

            “I’m arguing the Bible is completely true and you’re arguing that it’s not, but you refuse to tell me which parts you have issue with.”

            Oh you want specifics? Ok.
            1) Events which lack archaeological support
            a) The Exodus
            b) The invasion of Canaan

            2) Questionable morality
            a) Attempted Genocide of the Amalekites
            b) The assertion that God killed every first born of Egypt [that would include the first born of slave girls].
            c) The discrimination God is portrayed as showing those who were physically handicapped.

            “In order to say that it’s not supported by archaeology or any other branch of science, you make assumptions.”

            Nope.

            “One, you assume that the Bible is not supported by archaeology because you said it’s not, but you’re pretty full of yourself, so that’s expected.”

            Really? Tell me how you get this amazing insight when you don’t even know me? As to my ‘assumption’ archaeology was part of my history course at uni.

            “Two, you assume that all truth begins with scientific branches.”

            Not at all. I studied philosophy as well [I have a double major] and I would argue that there are many sources of truth. Science is just the best method we have at the moment for discovering truths about the nature of the universe.

            “Three, why would you question the Bible’s morality, when you reject moral absolutes.”

            As it turns out I don’t ‘reject’ absolutes I just don’t believe humans could recognise an absolute if they found one. That being the case a morality which claims to be absolute is useless to us unless proof is supplied that the ‘absolute morality’ is just that.

            I do however hold to an objective morality. Rossian Deontology.

          • Coach

            You’ve read the Bible several times, ok, right. Supposing you’re not just exaggerating to make yourself sound intelligent. The Pharisees read and knew the Bible very well, but because they were blind to the truth, they rejected the Savior, Jesus Christ, when, whom the scriptures pointed to.

            Why? John 12:37 But although He had done so many signs before them, they did not believe in Him, 38 that the word of Isaiah the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spoke:

            “Lord, who has believed our report?
            And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”
            39 Therefore they could not believe, because Isaiah said again:

            40 “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts,
            Lest they should see with their eyes,
            Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn,
            So that I should heal them.”
            41 These things Isaiah said when he saw His glory and spoke of Him.

            You took a course in uni, I suppose you mean university and that somehow makes you an expert. Think for a second, for you to say there is no evidence for these events is equivalent to you saying that you have a perfect knowledge of archaeology, hence proving the point of why you’re full of yourself.

            God killed the firstborn of Egypt, God promises to pour out His eternal wrath on everyone who doesn’t know God and those who don’t obey His gospel, what’s your point? You reject God because He doesn’t align Himself to your standards. Man was created in the image of God and since the fall, people have sought to create a god in their image, to fit their corrupt nature.

            As for absolutes, it doesn’t matter what you believe, it matters what’s true. To say anything for certain, you assume absolute truth. You say there’s absolute truth, but you don’t know any of it, thereby admitting that you don’t know anything, but assume many things.

            The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and correction

            Proverbs 1:7

          • Chris

            “You’ve read the Bible several times, ok, right. Supposing you’re not just exaggerating to make yourself sound intelligent. ”

            it’s not intelligent to read the same book through a few times. It merely takes dedication.

            “The Pharisees read and knew the Bible very well, but because they were blind to the truth, they rejected the Savior, Jesus Christ, when, whom the scriptures
            pointed to.”

            So what? Jesus read it through as well? What’s your point? Or is it guilt by association?

            You then quote the Gospel of John. The anonymous author makes several claims. But let’s say all of them are true. How would anyone know? I didn’t see any signs. All I saw is a book claiming these signs were fulfilled. So what? Lots of books make lots of claims. Doesn’t make them true. That’s why we need evidence.

            “You took a course in uni, I suppose you mean university and that somehow makes you an expert.”

            Nope. Just means I know the questions to ask.

            “Think for a second, for you to say there is no evidence for these events is equivalent to you saying that you have a perfect knowledge of archaeology, hence proving the point of why you’re full of yourself.”

            Think yourself. I said they were unsupported by evidence. Don’t twist my words. Now that’s twice you’ve insulted me. I know fundies are a very insulting group so if you insult me one more time this discussion is over. Fair warning.

            “God killed the firstborn of Egypt, God promises to pour out His eternal wrath on everyone who doesn’t know God and those who don’t obey His gospel, what’s your point?”

            My point is that such a conception of God is unjust. If God said and did those things I would be morally obliged to oppose Him not worship Him.

            “You reject God because He doesn’t align Himself to your standards.”

            Nope. I’ve already told you I’m a Zoroastrian. I accept the concept of God. Just not a God who is unjust.

            “Man was created in the image of God and since the fall, people have sought to create a god in their image, to fit their corrupt nature.”

            Humans evolved and there was no fall. Genesis is a book of myths and legends You do harm to the stories it contains by trying to read them as history.

            “As for absolutes, it doesn’t matter what you believe, it matters what’s true.”

            Running that through my fundie translator…you mean it doesn’t matter what I believe only what YOU believe.

          • Coach

            Chris, you are on your way to hell, stop being full of yourself and flee to Christ Jesus, you need to seriously rethink this thing, stop opposing the truth because of your love for that which God hates.

            Of course I’ve offended you, you’re a slave of sin, blinded by satan to the truth, so to avoid offending you is to offend the One whom I’m enslaved to, the Lord Jesus Christ who was born of a virgin, perfectly fulfilled the law of God, the world was created through Him, but the world rejected Him, but to those who received Him, He gave the power to become children of God, who were born, not by the will of man, but the will of God. He was betrayed by Judas Iscariot, crucified and on the third day, He arose bodily from the grave and is now seated at the right hand of the Father interceding on behalf of all whom He atoned for. As it is written, “His name shall be called Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins”. He will return again for His elect and will execute wrath on all who do not know God and who do not obey His gospel.

            He is the One whom I should be concerned with offending, not you. Chris, you have far bigger issues than someone hurting your feelings, hell is fire that is not quenched and the smoke from your torment goes up forever, but Satan is pretty clever in that there’s plenty of movies out to make light of hell and there are plenty of false teachers to make God seem like someone who wouldn’t throw anyone into hell, but I assure you God is good and He must destroy all that goes against His nature, He is eternally worthy, the punishment must be eternal.

            One last thing, you’re closer to meeting your Maker now than ever before, His sheer mercy keeps you from being cast into the lake of fire now, but the wicked are set in slippery places and there foot shall slide in due time. Stop trusting your supposed intelligence, recognize you’re a fool and flee to the mercy of God that is in Christ Jesus.

          • Chris

            I should also point out that with your, admittedly huge, reply you never answered my question.

        • Amos Moses

          out of context and meaningless ….. we do not pray to change Gods mind or will …… He is not our bellhop …………. we pray for Him to change our minds and will to His ………….

          • antifasciste

            So free will is a facade?

          • Amos Moses

            i do not believe in free will as you describe it ……. and no …. prayer is not a waste of time ….

      • Amos Moses

        AMEN ………..

  • Amos Moses

    if you want to understand just how heroic that was …… if you are ever in Branson ….. go to the Titanic museum …… they have a container that they keep full of water at the temperature of the ocean that day …….. see if you can hold your hand in it for 10 minutes ………………..