Convicted Felon and Admitted Pedophile Running for Congress Wants to Legalize Incest

CATLETT, Va. (WUSA9) — A Northern Virginia candidate running for Congress has some shocking, and dangerous views about children and women.

Nathan Larson, an accountant who lives in Fauquier County, thinks it’s okay for adults to have sex with children. He is running as an Independent for Virginia’s 10 Congressional District.

And he wants to make it legal.

Normally, WUSA9 doesn’t give people with abhorrent beliefs a platform to share those ideas. But in this case, since Nathan Larson is running for Congress, we would like people to know why he’s running for Congress.

He says he wants to “restore liberty” and legalize incest for “personal freedom.”

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  • Amos Moses – He>i

    and HOMOMIRAGE has no effects on society …. SUUUUUUUUUURE ……

    • HarmNoOne

      What are you talking about, this man isn’t a homosexual

      • Amos Moses – He>i

        this man THINKS he can support such things BECAUSE of HOMOMIRAGE ….. and the REALLY SAD BIT is ….. far too many in Ca. would agree with him ………..

        • HarmNoOne

          But he’s not a homosexual!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            SO WHAT …..

          • HarmNoOne

            well what does it have to do with the story

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            already been answered ….. try reading to understand ………..

          • HarmNoOne

            Hey man the story doesnt even mention gays or gay marriage so what the ?????

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            guess what …. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO …… we do not live in a segregated bubble free from other influences …… but if you think that ….. then you will suffer for it …..

          • Charles des Barres

            So is this sort of like when the tsunami happened and Pat Robertson blamed it on the gays and lesbians, is that kind of what you are doing here?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            no connection between depravity and the weather ……… there is a connection between the depravity of incest and homomirage ….. as both are depravity ….. so not sure what your point is … or PRbrtsn ……..

          • Charles des Barres

            Homosexuals getting married has really got nothing whatsoever to do with this story. I have to say this is one of the most outrageous things I’ve ever seen anyone say.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it has everything to do with the depravity invading public life and the destruction of society ……….

          • Charles des Barres

            Nobody is interested in destroying society.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and yet THEY ARE ………..

          • Charles des Barres

            Who and why would they want to do that?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            because they are narcissists …. and all they care about is their own depraved desires being met …. even if it means their own death …… and death outside of that is not of any concern to them ………… only their own DESIRES being met …… NARCISSISM ……

          • Charles des Barres

            I disagree they are narcissists, that’s a pretty broad brush you are tarring them with, but even if they were narcissists, what would they get out of destroying society? You’re making some really bizarre allegations.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            anyone who would have a physical relationship that will prematurely end their life ….. from ALL CAUSES across the board ….. and destroy society …. is a self centered NARCISSIST ….. homosexuals cause that kind of damage to their “partners”, THEMSELVES, their families, and society …… and they do not care about anything but their own DESIRES ……… even in the face of those facts ……. and that IS NARCISSISM …….. to a man ……. (and woman) ………

          • Charles des Barres

            You keep using that word “narcissism”. I don’t think it means what you think it means. And you have a very strange idea about homosexuals, they are not narcissists. They are human beings who fall in love just like everyone else. You speak in strange conspiracy theory tones.

          • John O

            He is speaking to spiritual man. if u can’t grasp that, do u think about eternity?

          • Charles des Barres

            He’s not, he seems to be saying all homosexuals are narcissists, which apart from being ridiculous has nothing to do with the story about this sicko. He seems to be trying to tie the two together.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “They are human beings who fall in love just like everyone else”

            so many would have us believe ….. but it is a complete lie ….. and the evidence is WHO they “love” ….. and it is not “love” as love harms no one ….. EVERYTHING the homosexual does in the name of “love” CAUSES HARM …. to themselves, their “partners”, their families and society in general …….

          • Charles des Barres

            Well, on the subject of lies, here are a few you’re spouting:
            1 – homosexuals can’t fall in love. They can and they do, just like everyone else. Why would it be different for them? Do you think they actually DO feel opposite-sex attractions and just choose to pretend they don’t?
            2 – homosexuals cause harm to each other. No they don’t. Unless you’re talking about casual hook-ups in bars where they might engage in unprotected activity (no different from any straight person, by the way). There’s nothing two homosexuals can do to each other that is more damaging than what two straight people do.

            3 – the liberal left wants to legitimize pedophilia. That’s too ridiculous a thought to even entertain, it’s conspiracy theory nonsense.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “3 – the liberal left wants to legitimize pedophilia. That’s too ridiculous a thought to even entertain, it’s conspiracy theory nonsense.”

            “The state should no longer be allowed to assume the rationality of regulations based upon age and should at least be required to justify its actions on the basis of modern legislative and administrative findings.” ~ Hillary Rodham, The Harvard Education Review, 1973, “Children Under the Law”

            hmmmmm ….. that would include their ability to CONSENT ……… so HRC would be for its legalization ………

          • Charles des Barres

            So you believe Hillary Clinton wishes to legalize pedophilia, based on this statement?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i believe she IS a pedophile …………. and worse ………

          • Charles des Barres

            That’s one of those statements that makes me wonder why you get “thumbs ups” from people.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            mystifies me too ……….

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Hillary Clinton We created Al Qaeda”

            on the YOU TUBE machine …… HRC TESITIFIES before congress on this matter …… youtube>com/watch?v=qXmQF7DdWEs …. change the > to a . ……… HER OWN WORDS ………….

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “2 – homosexuals cause harm to each other. No they don’t. ”

            AGAIN ……

            Obituraries numbering 6516 from 16 US homosexual journals over 12 years were compared to a large sample of obituaries from regular newspapers. The obituaries from the regular newspapers were similar to US averages for longevity, the median age of death of married men was 75, 80% of them died old, 65 or older. For unmarried or divorced men the median age of death was 57 and 32% of them died old.

            Married women averaged age 79 at death, 85% died old, and unmarried and divorced women averaged age 71, and 60% of them died old.

            However, the median age of death for homosexuals was virtually the same nationwide, and overall, less than 2% survived to old age. If AIDS was the cause of death, the median age was 39 years old. For the 829 homosexuals who died of something else BESIDES AIDS, the median age was 42 years of age, and 9% died old. Of 163 lesbians, the median age was 44 years of age, and 20% died old. 2.8% of homosexuals died violently and they were 116 times more apt to be murdered, 24 times more apt to commit suicide, and had a traffic accident death rate 18 times greater than comparably aged white males. 20% of lesbians died of murder, suicide, or accident, a rate 487 times greater than that of white females aged 25 to 44.

          • Charles des Barres

            Homosexuals USED to die at greater rates due to AIDS. That doesn’t happen anymore. Also anything a gay person can get, so can a straight person. Nature doesn’t discriminate.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            try READING it again …. even accounting for and removing those numbers …….. changes NOTHING ……. including DEATH BY ACCIDENT ……….

          • Charles des Barres

            Why would death by accident be greater for homosexuals?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            because they are on a path where they take increased risks ….. and those risks have consequences ….. and they are frequently deadly ……… and if you are going to stick things in anothers beehive …… you get what you deserve …………

          • Charles des Barres

            I don’t follow. What increased accidental risks?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they will risk having sex … when the threat of HIV/AIDS is an issue …… for a moment of pleasure ….. they take other risks all the time …… the ways are various ….. from the chances they take while driving …. to just about any other activity ….. and it ends up in their premature death …… drugs, alcohol, whatever …………

          • Charles des Barres

            What you just said applies to straight people too.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            SURE IT DOES ….. and THEY are NARCISSISTS also who would do those things …………. but homosexuals have given up a certain amount of truth to do what they do ….. and just because someone else is doing it ….. is not an excuse …. NOR does it remove the consequences ……….

          • Charles des Barres

            Yeah, I have said this before, but I really don’t think you know what narcissism means.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            apparently YOU do not want to acknowledge what it means ……. and until you can prove your assertion ….. THEY ARE NARCISSISTS ……..

          • Charles des Barres

            There isn’t anything that requires proof. You’ve taken a random adjective and seem to be trying to crowbar all homosexuals into it. What I don’t know is why.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            NOPE ….. just your opinion ……

          • Charles des Barres

            Yeah. It’s my opinion that calling all homosexuals narcissists is YOUR opinion.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            with no evidence ….. so who cares …….

          • Charles des Barres

            You are the one making the claim, not me.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and i have backed my claims ….. and you sit there dumb ……… so just your opinion ….

          • Charles des Barres

            You haven’t backed them, and I see nothing online that links homosexuality to narcissism.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ok …. SO WHAT ….. the DIAGNOSIS of it fits them perfectly to a “T” …….

            and i have already posted it for you …… see ….. and this is really key ….. what YOU want for them will KILL them prematurely …… what i want for them …… will give them a LONG LIFE …… so who is really the H8TR here …….. YOU ARE ………..

          • Charles des Barres

            You are bringing up a lot of things I never even mentioned, but no, I am not the hater here. I want all people to love fulfilled lives with people they love. But saying all homosexuals are narcissists is like saying all Christians wear blue shirts. It’s ridiculous, and it’s not based on anything scientific.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            NARCISSISM …..

            Exaggerates own importance

            Is preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, beauty, intelligence or ideal romance

            Believes he or she is special and can only be understood by other special people or institutions

            Requires constant attention and admiration from others

            Has unreasonable expectations of favorable treatment

            Takes advantage of others to reach his or her own goals

            Disregards the feelings of others, lacks empathy

            Is often envious of others or believes other people are envious of him or her

            Shows arrogant behaviors and attitudes

          • Charles des Barres

            All right, and why do you attribute these qualities to gay people?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            because that is what they do …….. DUH ……

          • Charles des Barres

            What, ALL of them? Are you actually serious?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they do nothing to build society …. so …. YUP ….. what builds society is bringing more members into a society …. you know …. BY BIRTH …….. as that is the only way ….. EVERYTHING about homosexuality goes against that …… EVERYTHING ….. and it is their own own SELF CENTERED NARCISSISM and PRIDE that leads them to destroy it ….. knowingly or NOT …………

          • Charles des Barres

            “They do nothing to build society”

            Are you going to tell Leonardo
            da Vinci, Michelangelo, Tchaikovsky, Oscar Wilde, Charles Turing and
            Freddie Mercury they did nothing to build society?

          • Henry J. Richards

            Since when is having an orgasm an accident? You said DEATH BY ACCIDENT.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            learn to parse ………

          • Henry J. Richards

            Learn to stay on topic! You said dying by accident, and when asked for an example you say orgasm?

          • Henry J. Richards

            Those figures don’t say that being a homosexual makes you die sooner.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            they most certainly do ….. unless you are in denial …. but fine …. CANADIAN STUDY ……

            Modelling the impact of HIV disease on mortality in gay and bisexual men.
            R S Hogg S A Strathdee K J Craib M V O’Shaughnessy J S Montaner M T Schechter
            International Journal of Epidemiology, Volume 26, Issue 3, 1 June 1997, Pages 657–661,

            Abstract
            OBJECTIVE: To assess how HIV infection and AIDS (HIV/AIDS) impacts on mortality rates for gay and bisexual men. METHODS: Vital statistics data were obtained for a large Canadian urban centre from 1987 to 1992. Three scenarios were utilized with assumed proportions of gay and bisexual men of 3%, 6% and 9% among the male population age 20 years. For each scenario, non-HIV deaths were distributed according to the assumed proportion of the total population (3%, 6% or 9%) but 95% of HIV deaths were distributed to gay and bisexual men as this is the proportion of AIDS cases in gay and bisexual men in this centre. The main outcome measures of interest were age-specific patterns of death, life expectancy and life expectancy lost due to HIV/AIDS at exact age 20 years, and the probability of living from age 20 to 65 years.

            RESULTS: Estimates of the mid-period gay and bisexual population ranged from 5406 to 16,219 for the three scenarios, and total deaths in these men from 953 to 1703. Age-specific mortality was significantly higher for gay and bisexual men than all men aged 30-44. Life expectancy at age 20 for gay and bisexual men ranged from 34.0 years to 46.3 years for the 3% and 9% scenarios respectively. These were all lower than the 54.3 year life expectancy at age 20 for all men. The probability of living from age 20 to 65 years for gay and bisexual men ranged from 32% for the 3% scenario, to 59% for the 9% scenario. These figures were considerably lower than for all men where the probability of living from 20 to 65 was 78%.

            CONCLUSION: In a major Canadian centre, life expectancy at age 20 years for gay and bisexual men is 8 to 20 years less than for all men. If the same pattern of mortality were to continue, we estimate that nearly half of gay and bisexual men currently aged 20 years will not reach their 65th birthday. Under even the most liberal assumptions, gay and bisexual men in this urban centre are now experiencing a life expectancy similar to that experienced by all men in Canada in the year 1871.

          • Henry J. Richards

            I said:
            Those figures don’t say that being a homosexual makes you die sooner.

            You responded with:
            OBJECTIVE: To assess how HIV infection and AIDS (HIV/AIDS) impacts on mortality rates for gay and bisexual men.

            In other words, you answered my question with something that was unrelated to it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “1 – homosexuals can’t fall in love.”

            red herring …. no one made any such claim ….. and what you and they are calling “love” is the issue ….. and self centered NARCISSISM is not love …….

          • Charles des Barres

            Well, you keep calling homosexual love “narcissism” which it isn’t. Where I come from, that’s known as a lie.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            from where you are from ….. you are just spreading lies …….

          • Henry J. Richards

            You were asked why a homosexual would wish to destroy society and you said because they are narcissists? WHAT?

            First of all, a homosexual isn’t a narcissist, at least not by definition, and secondly, why would a narcissist want to destroy society?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            what they “wish” is not RELEVANT ….. what they DO ….. is …. and what they DO ….. is destroy society …. any society …….. and they do so by their lack of empathy for anything outside of themselves ……. that SELF CENTERED NARCISSISM ……..

            and the evidence is EMPIRICAL ……….
            Take a number of homosexuals, both sexes, put the males on one island, put the females on another island ……..give them anything they want or desire ….. deprive them of nothing ALLOW THEM TO EXPRESS THIER DESIRE FOR ONE ANOTHER ….. unrestricted and outside of anyones judgement ………… but they cannot leave and they cannot have the opposite sex …… come back in 60 years …… nothing will be left …….. society DIES ………. ………. ZIP, ZERO, NADA ….. DEATH …… that is all you get …… THAT IS NARCISSISTIC SELF CENTEREDNESS ….

            YOU DO NOT EVEN NEED TO ACTUALLY DO IT ……. this is a THOUGHT EXPERIMENT …… and you KNOW …. EMPIRICALLY …….. that is it true ………….. and its RESULTS are ZIP, ZERO, NADA …….. DEATH ……..

          • Henry J. Richards

            That’s completely stupid, they aren’t ruining any societies, how are they affecting your life personally in ANY way? And you’re totally nuts calling it narcissism, there are many gay and lesbian people who are wonderful and caring and nurturing people. I’m guessing you don’t know any.

            And guess what genius, stick a bunch of male mice in one box and females in another and they will die, too. That isn’t proving narcissism, it’s proving how biology works. Are you a troll or what?

          • Lily Of The Valley

            Now I thought if you were going to bring this weird hypothetical situation up again, you would at least get rid of the part about how “they cannot have the opposite sex.” Because, again, the same thing would happen (no children) to heterosexuals if they could NOT have any access to the opposite sex. I don’t see any way the situation changes based on what the orientation of the people is.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            already refuted your nonsense ….. the object is to GIVE THEM THEIR DESIRE …. and it is plainly stated ……. homosexuals DO NOT DESIRE the opposite sex ….. HETEROS …… DO …. so they both get the samething ….. WHAT THEY DESIRE MOST ………

          • Lily Of The Valley

            homosexuals DO NOT DESIRE the opposite sex

            Stop the presses!! Breaking news!!

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope …. no breaking ….. if they wanted the opposite sex then they would ….. ummmmm …… NOT BE homosexuals ………. maybe “bi-sexual” …… but THAT IS NOT what they claim ….. and many now want to say that if you proclaim homosexual ….. YOU ARE PERMANENTLY FIXED ……… HOMOSEXUALS ARE INCAPABLE OF CHANGING THEIR ORIENTATION …… and YOU are one of them ………. everything about being homosexual is built on a lie ……..

          • Lily Of The Valley

            if they wanted the opposite sex then they would ….. ummmmm …… NOT BE homosexuals

            So, you have successfully illustrated that homosexuals are….uh, homosexual. Congratulations, I guess.

            and many now want to say that if you proclaim homosexual ….. YOU ARE PERMANENTLY FIXED ……… HOMOSEXUALS ARE INCAPABLE OF CHANGING THEIR
            ORIENTATION …… and YOU are one of them

            No, I’m not. If you were paying attention to what I said, I never said people’s sexual orientation does not change. I have said, however, that it is not something that is easily and/or consciously, willingly changed. I think I even used those exact words. That’s why I’m very skeptical of that so-called “conversion therapy.”

            One thing, though, that you actually kind of hinted at, is that not all people who identify as homosexual are in fact 100% homosexual, as in they never have any desires to do anything with the opposite sex. So maybe all those people in your example aren’t being given all the desires. But it doesn’t even matter, because you’re not even giving them that chance anyway, are you?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “that is easily and/or consciously, willingly changed.”

            well that pretty much rules out any change at all …….

            ” because you’re not even giving them that chance anyway, are you?”

            their only chance is Christ ….. but the example was a thought experiment ….. you do not have to do it to know the result ….. and the fact of the matter is ….. it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that homosexuality destroys society ….. and that it is NOT NORMAL and safe …… by any means ……. because see …… if they were on the island … and they “remained monogamous” (which is a myth) ….. the results ….. WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME ………. and “married and monogamous” is not some magic spell that if you follow it that it confers anything on the ones who practice it …… nor is it a “right” that they have been denied ……. their right to DESTROY SOCIETY is what is being curtailed ….. and nothing else ……….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            it proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that homosexuality destroys society

            Because a group that is a small minority doesn’t have children means they “destroy society”? That does not make any sense. Society is not two isolated hypothetical islands. Your thought experiment is not a representation of any society. If you ask me, attitudes like the one you’re exhibiting do more “destroying,”

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it is an infection …… people think homosexuality is “normal” ….. and it destroys society …. because a “minority” does not stay a minority ……… they spread their lies that what they do is “NORMAL” …… when it aint ………

          • Lily Of The Valley

            it is an infection

            No, it is not. Sexual orientation is not contagious.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            the THOUGHTS that it is “normal” ….. IS … and you are infected ………..

          • Lily Of The Valley

            Next time, try actually reading what I said. Maybe try forming a complete sentence or two while you’re at it, because that was barely coherent.

            I guess that what you’re saying makes sense…..only if you operate with the assumption that people can, or even that they would, change their sexual orientation just because people say it’s “normal.” But, you know, we in the real world know things don’t work that way.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “change their sexual orientation just because people say it’s “normal.””

            when a person chooses to become a homosexual ….. their mind becomes diminished in its capacity to properly reason ……… they think what they are doing is normal ….. and it begins to infect others with the same thoughts ….. and NO ….. you BELIEVE certain things ….. and only think you “know” it …….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            when a person chooses to become a homosexual

            ….is not actually a thing that happens, because people don’t “choose” their sexual orientation. So, you fail right from the start there.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            baloney ……. again …. EVERYBODY chooses who they get naked and fall into bed with … so your statement is a LIE ……………….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            EVERYBODY chooses with whom they get naked and fall into bed

            Sure, but that is not sexual orientation. Sexual orientation is who you’re attracted to. Why is this so hard for some people to understand? Seems like a pretty simple, obvious thing. People have sexual orientations, even way before they ever “fell into bed” with someone. I don’t know about you, but I was pretty darn sure I liked girls long before I ever had sex. I’ve heard homosexual people say the same kind of thing, that they knew they were attracted to the same sex by the time they were a teenager, if not earlier.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it surely is … man is only “oriented” to one thing and it is SIN ……

          • Lily Of The Valley

            You’re contradicting yourself anyway. Now you’re basically saying that there is no such thing as sexual orientation, or that it’s something that people can just pick, like deciding what color socks they’re going to wear. But earlier, in your ridiculous “thought experiment,” you were talking about leaving homosexuals to “express their desire for each other.” I don’t know about you, but I don’t usually choose what desires I have, especially ones of that nature. Of course, I can choose to act or not to act on any desire, but the desire is still there either way.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            in your use of words ….. it “exists” …..

            in a CHRISTIAN worldview …… it is just SIN ….

            and somehow you think our differing worldviews are NOT contradictory ………. they absolutely are …….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            in your use of words ….. it “exists” …..

            in a CHRISTIAN worldview …… it is just SIN ….

            But even if it is “just SIN” it still exists, doesn’t it?

            and somehow you think our differing worldviews are NOT contradictory ………. they absolutely are …….

            Now, I just don’t know what you’re talking about any more. I’ve never said such a thing. I think we’re obviously pretty darn contradictory of each other views, if we weren’t, would I spend as much time arguing with you?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “But even if it is “just SIN” it still exists, doesn’t it?”

            nope …… not in the context that you are trying to frame it ….. you are trying to frame it in such a way as to say there are no consequences …… and that is a complete lie … in the christian worldview ….. ALL SIN has a consequence ….. and it MUST be paid …….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            you are trying to frame it in such a way as to say there are no consequences

            I never said that. (Are you confusing me with someone else? Seems to be a lot of that going around here lately) But if by “consequences” you mean “God’s punishment for sinning,” it should be obvious by now that I don’t believe there is such a thing as “sin” (you know, since I don’t believe in a god)…so, sorry, but that really means nothing at all to me.

            But, if you’re talking about the health risks and that kinda stuff that you mentioned earlier, yeah, sure, some sexual practices are more risky than others, and especially some ones often engaged in by homosexuals. I won’t deny that, it’s just a fact. (though probably not as much as you and your mostly-obviously-biased sources make it to be) But of course, as with any kind of thing like that, people can reduce the risk greatly if they’re taking appropriate precautions.

            As for what you said a while ago, about how, as you put it, “they think what they are doing is normal ….. and it begins to infect others with the same thoughts”…..that’s a bunch of baloney. If more people are accepting of homosexuality, it doesn’t mean they become homosexuals themselves, it just means more people are willing to actually be open about it. If people like you would get their wish and make it not acceptable to be homosexual, outlaw it maybe, you wouldn’t get rid of it, you would just shove it underground. A little like Prohibition. It didn’t really stop people from drinking, it just moved it to the speakeasies and such.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “But if by “consequences” you mean “God’s punishment for sinning,” it should be obvious by now that I don’t believe there is such a thing as “sin” ”

            does not matter IF you believe it or not …… the consequences exist …… and you are trying to frame as if it should have no consequences ……… and there are more than just medical issues ……… what you want will bring their premature death …… what i want for them is a long life …… ”

            If people like you would get their wish and make it not acceptable to be homosexual, outlaw it maybe, you wouldn’t get rid of it, you would just shove it underground.” …. where it will cause the least amount of harm to the fewest people ……… but i made no statement as such ……….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            and you are trying to frame as if it should have no consequences

            I just tried to explain to you how I wasn’t saying that.

            where it will cause the least amount of harm to the fewest people

            No, things don’t work that way.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “I just tried to explain to you how I wasn’t saying that.”

            right …. but you have already stated your position previously ….. and that is what it is ………

            “where it will cause the least amount of harm to the fewest people
            No, things don’t work that way.”

            sure does … we put all kinds of people in jail to PROTECT SOCIETY …… which you are bent on allowing to be destroyed ………….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            right …. but you have already stated your position previously ….. and that is what it is ………

            Ah, I see you’re utilizing that common debate tactic of “making stuff up” again.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ” but you have already stated your position previously ….. and that is what it is ……..”
            “Ah, I see you’re utilizing that common debate tactic of “making stuff up” again.”

            i see …..

            what was said
            me:”and you are trying to frame as if it should have no consequences”
            “I just tried to explain to you how I wasn’t saying that.”

            but you had just said “But of course, as with any kind of thing like that, people can reduce the risk greatly if they’re taking appropriate precautions.” …. so you are promoting the idea of it being safe and without consequences ….. despite your “denials” ………….

            “If more people are accepting of homosexuality, it doesn’t mean they become homosexuals themselves, it just means more people are willing to actually be open about it.”

            thus INFECTED with the lies ……… and that idea that it SHOULD be accepted is the infection ……… the infection is the LIE that it should be accepted ……

          • Lily Of The Valley

            so you are promoting the idea of it being safe and without consequences

            I am saying that while some sexual practices are indeed riskier than others, with appropriate precautions, they can be as safe as any sexual practice can be expected to be. That’s just a basic fact.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope ….that is just the basic lie ……….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            No it’s not a lie. This is pretty basic stuff here, Amos. It’s the kind of the thing they teach in sex education class. Though somehow I suspect they might have not had that it in your school….

          • Bob Johnson

            Probably the most risky consequence of sex is pregnancy. It is a lot safer now than it was a 100 years ago. But still, particularly without that scientism medical knowledge, a dangerous condition.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “(though probably not as much as you and your mostly-obviously-biased sources make it to be)”

            another LIE ….. there is no such thing as an “unbiased source” in science or anything else …………

          • Charles des Barres

            Nobody chooses to be a homosexual.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            EVERYBODY chooses who they get naked and fall into bed with … so your statement is a LIE ……………….

          • Charles des Barres

            No it isn’t a lie. Stop calling every statement you disagree with a lie. We have innate sexuality which we do not choose. I am not talking about behavior.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i call LIES LIES …… and what you wrote was a lie ……………….

          • Charles des Barres

            Then you are calling scientists liars.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            many are ……..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “I am not talking about behavior.”

            THOUGHTS are BEHAVIOR ………. and you have no SCIENCE to show an “orientation” is innate and not CHOSEN ………. your position is anti-science ………..

          • Charles des Barres

            Attraction is not a behavior. Thoughts are not relevant, I have a whole internet full of science and proof, and you continue to have nothing but an opinion.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            yes attraction is behavior ….. the ACT, PROCESS, or power of attracting ……….. merriam webster ……..

          • Charles des Barres

            Sexual attraction doesn’t mean that. It means who you feel drawn towards.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            so now you want to say that attraction does not mean what merriam webster SAYS it means ….. and YOU want to make up your own definition ……. FYI ….. “It means who you feel drawn towards” and “power of attracting” ….. samething …….. and now you are making up new lies to cover the ones you told ……….

          • Charles des Barres

            Sexual attraction is the subject. not attraction. Learn to parse.

            Sexual attraction is defined as a feeling that sexual people get that causes them to desire sexual contact with a specific other person. So it is the feeling and not the action itself.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            sexual or otherwise is not relevent ……. “So it is the feeling and not the action itself.” … and this is a christian site …..and the level of evidence HERE is biblical ….. and the MERE THOUGHT IS the act whether it is carried out or not ……… so your own opinion not withstanding …… that is what we are talking about HERE …..

          • Charles des Barres

            I don’t know why you keep telling me it’s a Christian site, as though I’m saying something that sensible Christians would take any issue with. Thoughts are not actions, you know that as well as I do.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “I don’t know why you keep telling me it’s a Christian site”

            ” Thoughts are not actions, you know that as well as I do.”

            BECAUSE THIS is a christian site and YOU do not seem to understand ………THAT is not the christian standard …. sorry … FAIL …… and whatever false converts who SAY they are christians do and say they believe are not my problem ……… that is their problem …..

          • Charles des Barres

            Well, I certainly have never heard a single Christian say the sorts of things you are saying, that homosexuals are all narcissists who can’t live monogamous lives and who groom children for sexual abuse. That isn’t a Christian position. I don’t think it’s ANY position. At least not one that anyone would take seriously.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            i did not say they cannot live as monogamous persons ….. i said THEY DO NOT …… and what do i care what these supposed other “christians” have said ….. it is IRRELEVANT to the truth …..

          • Charles des Barres

            Well, there are homosexual people living monogamously in every city, every town, practically every block, so what on earth are you talking about? I personally know a gay couple celebrating 30 years. Why do you go so far out of your way to try to get me to deny what I see with my own eyes and experience in my own life? Why do you think you know my own experiences better than I do? I mean, you’re the one screaming LIE every two seconds, this is about the most blatant lie I’ve ever seen.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            myth ……….

          • Charles des Barres

            No. I know gay monogamous people. And you can find them easily anywhere. You are being willfully ignorant.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … men lie …. and there is no evidence that a person who rejects societies conventions is going to hold to that one (monogamy) just because you want to believe it …………

          • Charles des Barres

            What you’re saying is no different than saying adults never use grocery stores. It’s every bit as ridiculous and every bit as easy to disprove. So if you want to continue to make statements that people are going to laugh at for their absurdity, go ahead.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “What you’re saying is no different than saying adults never use grocery stores”

            false conflation …………

          • Lix Tetrax

            “the evidence is EMPIRICAL”

            You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

            Same goes for the use of eclipses, by the way.

            “Take a number of homosexuals, both sexes, put the males on one island,
            put the females on another island ……..give them anything they want
            or desire ….. deprive them of nothing ALLOW THEM TO EXPRESS THIER
            DESIRE FOR ONE ANOTHER ….. unrestricted and outside of anyones
            judgement ………… but they cannot leave and they cannot have the
            opposite sex …… come back in 60 years …… nothing will be left
            …….. society DIES ……….”
            Heterosexuals of just one sex would not last longer either.
            Also, I “love” the assumption here that the ONLY way to contribute to society is reproduction…

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Heterosexuals of just one sex would not last longer either.”

            Heteros …. DO NOT DESIRE THEIR OWN SEX ……. the object is to GIVE THEM THEIR DESIRES ….. and most homosexuals will tell you that the opposite is ABHORRENT to them …….

            “Also, I “love” the assumption here that the ONLY way to contribute to society is reproduction…”

            it is not an assumption …… if you FAIL to make new members to replace the ones that die ….. THERE IS NO SOCIETY …………

          • Lix Tetrax

            1. Homosexuals do not want their own society without the other sex,
            they want to be an accepted part of society and be allowed to love who
            they love.

            2. Way to miss the point I wrote IN ALL CAPS!

            Of course reproduction needs to happen for society to survive.
            However, it should be self-evident that this is not all there is to
            society. Furthermore, humanity’s population is very, very, very far from
            the point where a few people not reproducing would risk extinction for
            the species.

            What about a couple who are childless (possible even without a
            choice on that matter due to infertility), but adopt an orphan and raise
            the child as if it was their own? Have they not contributed to society?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “they want to be an accepted part of society and be allowed to love who
            they love.”

            it is not love ….. it is NARCISSISM ….. love does no harm to another ….. EVERYTHING the homosexual does harms themselves, their”partners”, their families, and society in general ……. what they want is irrelevant ……. what they do is relevant ……… and what they want DESTROYS society …….

          • Charles des Barres

            No.
            It’s love.
            Homosexuals love. Just like everyone else.
            They fall in love. There is ZERO difference between them and heterosexuals. The poles of attraction are reversed, and that is the ONLY difference.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … sorry … just as every other definition they choose to put forward ….. the homosexual definition of “love” is a bastardization of language and a lie ……….. and you are buying into that lie …… no sale here ….. EVERYTHING that the homosexual says is “love” does harm to themselves, their “partners”, their families, and society in general …… they destroy society ………. TRUE LOVE does NO HARM TO ANOTHER …… and that is why that homosexual definition is a lie ………

          • Charles des Barres

            Well Amos, all I can tell you is you are one opinion against millions, and amongst those millions are scientists and psychologists. But the saddest thing of all is that with one simply conversation with practically any homosexual on earth, you know your angry ideas would be shut down in the blink of an eye. I think that’s going to be my final word on this subject, but there’s no doubt in my mind you’re going to have to hear it many more times from others before it sinks in.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “all I can tell you is you are one opinion against millions”

            and that proves what … oh yeah … NOTHING ……..

            “Love is love, there isn’t a special homosexual definition”

            Really …. hmmmmm …..

            ” Love is love, there isn’t a special pedophile definition” – so i guess the pedophile is ok …
            ” Love is love, there isn’t a special bestiality definition” – so i guess the horse “lover” is ok
            ” Love is love, there isn’t a special rapist definition” – so i guess rape is ok ….

            they are all just in love ……….

          • Charles des Barres

            When you think you’re right and everyone else is wrong, chances are you need to re-examine your position, but I’m guessing you’re not going to do that. No one is lying to you, by the way, you just don’t like what you’re hearing and so you are covering your ears.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            when you think you are right … and and you think everyone agreeing with you makes you right ………… YOU ARE LOST ……….. “No one is lying to you” ….. when you have to RESORT to SEMANTICALLY NULL statements such as “love is love” ……. YOU HAVE LOST …. and the proof of the lie is that you cannot give any semantically CORRECT definition …. your LIE is laid bare ………..

          • Charles des Barres

            What you sit here screaming “lies” at me for are commonly known facts amongst pretty much everyone in the entire world. My advice to you is to stop telling everyone you disagree with that they are a liar, because when you think everyone is out to be deceptive and deliberately mislead you, it comes across unstable and paranoid.

            Gay people are human beings and they have the same human experiences as everyone else. They develop attractions to other people and fall in love. Why would it be any other way merely because their poles of attraction are reversed?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            ” “lies” at me for are commonly known facts”

            commonly known LIES ……… there … fixed that for you …. just because you believe a lie …. does not make it truth ….. no matter how many billions agree with you ….. still a lie …….

          • Charles des Barres

            They aren’t lies. They aren’t even “commonly known”. What’s commonly known is the part that you’re going so far out of your way to ignore. The science and the psychology on this has been pretty much in stone for decades but you can’t seem to accept it.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “The science and the psychology on this has been pretty much in stone for decades but you can’t seem to accept it.”

            what you cant seem to accept is that “psychology” is not science ….. and the REAL SCIENCE says homosexuality CAUSES PREMATURE DEATH …… and what you WANT TO BELIEVE about it ….. is a LIE ….. and what you want for the homosexual CAUSES THEIR PREMATURE DEATH …… and that is not only very hateful …. it is science denial ….. reality denial …. and it makes you a BIGOT for wanting them to die …………

          • Charles des Barres

            No, the real science says that unprotected sex leads to disease which leads to death. It doesn’t matter if you’re homosexual or heterosexual. I didn’t say I wanted them to die, that’s ridiculous and your name calling is getting tiresome.

          • Charles des Barres

            It isn’t “semantically null” to say love is love. Your problem is you refuse to accept that it IS love. And there isn’t a single reason in the world why it wouldn’t be. People don’t fall in narcissism. They fall in love. They become emotionally and physically attracted. Human beings have done this remarkably simple thing for thousands of years, there is no ulterior motive. You refuse to accept this simple reality and try to attribute ridiculous ideas that make no sense.

            And once again, I am not lying. You are denying.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “It isn’t “semantically null” to say love is love”

            it most certainly is … it is meaningless and null …..

          • Charles des Barres

            So why do you legitimize love between straight people but not homosexuals? How could it be any different?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            and this has already been covered AD NAUSEAM ….. it is a self centered self destructive act that affects them, their “partners” their families and society in general ……. love CAUSES NO HARM ……. but EVERYTHING the homosexual does …. DOES HARM ………

          • Charles des Barres

            Yes, you are very fond of repeating this opinion of yours, but people fall in love and when it happens it is the OPPOSITE of “self-centered”. It it selfLESS and generous. And it’s completely ridiculous to say that everything a homosexual does is harmful.

          • james blue

            So all those homosexuals who have cheated on their spouses are connected to pedophilia?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            homosexuality is depravity ……… cheating or otherwise ………. pedophilia is depravity ……. cheating or otherwise ……… is that clear enough for you …….. ALL SEX outside of the biblical definition of marriage in Genesis 2 and reiterated in Matthew 19 is depravity ….. Mr. so-called christian ……..

          • james blue

            So heterosexuals are connected to pedophilia.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            everyone is connected to SIN ……

        • james blue

          There has been a lot of articles about this scumbag, can you cite any of them or anything he’s said or written to suggest he takes his views “BECAUSE” of gay marriage?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            AGAIN ….. guess what …. IT DOES NOT HAVE TO …… we do not live in a segregated bubble free from other influences …… but if you think that ….. then you will suffer for it ….. no one even 5 years ago would even give voice to this GARBAGE ….. what has happened in the interim ……….. quit acting as if you are stupid and cannot see this …. supposed christian …..

          • james blue

            No scumbag tried to run for office on such a platform, but it’s not new. As someone always looking for ways to play 5 degrees of kevin bacon to link you surely don’t think this is something new

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            it being promoted by the media ….. so that is new ….. depravity likes company …..

          • james blue

            “Promoted”? how?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            LIBERALS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO NORMALIZE PEDOPHILIA FOR YEARS, ALSO INCEST

            In 2013, the UK’s Guardian claimed that “not even a full academic consensus on whether consensual pedophilic relations necessarily cause harm.” In 2014, a liberal writer at the New York Times wrote a piece titled “Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime.” In 2015, the liberal website Salon published a piece, which was later removed, titled “I’m a pedophile, but not a monster.” In 2016, VICE encouraged sympathy for pedophiles in a piece titled “Realizing You’re a Pedophile Can Make You Want to Kill Yourself.”

            It is not only pedophilia they are attempting to normalize, but as shown in a Telegraph article, they also claim that incest is just a “Genetic Sexual Attraction,” in a story titled “Disgusted by incest? Genetic Sexual Attraction is real and on the rise.” Cosmo also pushed a sympathetic view of incest in 2015 in a piece titled “This Is What It’s Like to Fall in Love With Your Brother.”

            Readers will note there are no links to those stories above…..anyone that wants to read them can use a search engine.

            The attempts by the left to normalize and decriminalize pedophilia and incest have lasting and ongoing effects, claiming people should have “open minds” on topics that were once considered taboo to even be spoken about, unless it was in court as these monsters were being prosecuted for abusing children.

            Well now they have a congressional candidate, running as an independent that feels voters have “open minds” so it is fine and dandy to publicly run on a platform that includes legalizing pedophilia and incest.

            Susan Duclose

          • Charles des Barres

            Who published THAT?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Her name is at the bottom of the block quote ……

          • Charles des Barres

            Not who WROTE it. Who published it. What website is it from?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            He believes pedophilia should be legal. He believes that incestuous relationships with minor children should be legal. He believes child pornography should be legal. He believes marital rape should be legal. He believes the 19th amendment (giving women the right to vote) should be repealed. He believes Hitler was a hero. He believes that a man should be allowed to “choke his wife to death” for cutting her hair without permission or other acts of “gross insubordination.” (Those are just the tip of the iceberg.)

            His name is Nathan Larson and by June 12, 2018, he will be an official congressional candidate in Virginia.

            SUSAN DUCLOSE

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            google it …………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            her website ….. google it ………

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            again ……

            Liberals Who Normalized Incest & Pedophilia Now Have A Candidate, But He Is Also Their Worst Nightmare- ‘Man Should Be Allowed To Choke His Wife To Death As Punishment’

          • james blue

            He’s also a white supremacist so conservatives have something to like about him

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            epithet … pejorative ….. ad hominem …… depravity is depravity ……

          • james blue

            Did you read the comment to which it was a reply?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            sure … and it was a guilt by association ad hominem attack …. gee …. if only i was a self identified conservative white supremacist republican …. but i aint …..

          • Lily Of The Valley

            Funny that you’re criticizing people for “guilt by association” when you’re doing the same exact thing yourself, citing and quoting stories that try to link this guy to liberals.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            not sure which “this guy” you are referring to ……..

          • Lily Of The Valley

            Nathan Larson.

            You quoted the headline, which was referring to him:

            Liberals Who Normalized Incest & Pedophilia Now Have A Candidate

            If you’re not trying to link liberals to him, you really shouldn’t have quoted a headline that does.

          • james blue

            you said this guy is being public with his agenda BECAUSE of gay marriage. When did that pass again?

            You then said it’s been promoted by the media claiming that was “new”, but only pointing to an opinion piece from someone trying to link pedophilia to liberals. Did you actually look beyond her drivel?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            FYI … i do not need to point to even one outside authority for it to be true …. it is not true because it is in an article …. it is true because GOD has said it is true in Romans 1 ………. Mr. so-called christian ……..

          • Sven

            This is an odd comment coming from somebody who claims to be a Christian

          • Bob Johnson

            It was published at All News Pipeline.

          • Charles des Barres

            Fake news, then?

          • james blue

            That’s promoting? Seems like critical investigation into cause. It’s certainly the 5 degrees of kevin bacon link game with “liberals”.

            However those are quite old articles..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            really ….. “5 years” is “old” …. and i get accused of redefining ……

          • Lily Of The Valley

            There are a few issues I’ve got with that story….

            In 2014, a liberal writer at the New York Times wrote a piece titled “Pedophilia: A Disorder, Not a Crime.”

            The NY Times is correct. It is considered a disorder, and as pedophilia is defined as having sexual attraction towards children, it is indeed not a crime. There are no laws against having certain attractions, as for one thing, they would be utterly impossible to enforce. People acting on that attraction certainly is and should be a crime, but the attraction itself couldn’t realistically be made a crime.

            It is not only pedophilia they are attempting to normalize, but as shown in a Telegraph article, they also claim that incest is just a “Genetic Sexual Attraction,” in a story titled “Disgusted by incest? Genetic Sexual Attraction is real and on the rise.”

            I think Ms. Duclos must have saw the headline to that story, said “ew!” and stopped reading it, because that’s not quite what the story said. I’ve heard of the phenomenon called “genetic sexual attraction” before, it apparently is a real thing that happens. It’s when two relatives who were separated at birth or a young age somehow reunite as adults, still not knowing they are related, and experience an attraction towards each other. People are often attracted to people who are like themselves, and there’s been plenty of examples of siblings who were separated at birth who grew up remarkably similar in a lot of ways. And they don’t have that built-in “ew” factor that usually comes with growing up with a person your whole life. So, while I’m not advocating or trying to “normalize” incest in any way, it’s understandable how that could happen.

        • Lily Of The Valley

          this man THINKS he can support such things BECAUSE of HOMOMIRAGE

          Do you know something about him that wasn’t mentioned in the article? Because I didn’t see anything in there about him saying that.

          I will say, though, I agree with the sentiments of that statement by Lauren Book quoted in the article. The guy sounds like a grade-A scumbag.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Do you know something about him that wasn’t mentioned in the article? ”

            NOPE ….. it is all right there in the article for anyone to see ….. until 2015 … NO ONE would have even suggested such abhorrent nonsense ….. and now some feel at liberty to do so ….

          • Bob Johnson

            And here all this time I thought it started in 1970 when the government legalized no-fault divorce.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            even before that ……. but homomirage is one of the final steps away from reality and truth ………..

          • Lily Of The Valley

            Apparently it’s all one really, really, really long slippery slope.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            NOPE …. a CLIFF ……….

          • Bob Johnson

            “Apparently it’s all one really, really, really long slippery slope.”

            Yes indeed. As for the “HISTORY”of Amos’ “abhorrent nonsense”, I was reading a couple of days ago descriptions by the clergy of the activities of 16th and 17th century witches. Amos’ views pale in comparison to the sexual mores of those 500 years ago.

          • Bob Johnson

            “Apparently it’s all one really, really, really long slippery slope.”

            Yes indeed. As for the “HISTORY”of Amos’ “abhorrent nonsense”, I was reading a couple of days ago descriptions by the clergy of the activities of 16th and 17th century witches. Amos’ views pale in comparison to the sexual mores of those 500 years ago.

          • Lily Of The Valley

            it is all right there in the article for anyone to see

            No, it’s not. Your assumptions are not part of the article.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            nope … HISTORY is part of everything …. and just because you choose to ignore it …. does not alter it ……

          • Lily Of The Valley

            Well, if there was a “HISTORY” of white-supremacist/incel-types like this guy claiming same-sex marriage being legal as the basis of the arguments, you might have a point. I don’t know about this guy in particular, but often those types are against same-sex marriage.

  • TheSayer

    Who would have thought incest would be next, us the so called ‘crazy Christians’ and anyone who isn’t ashamed of using logic. I have realized that freedom and liberty mean totally different things to the liberals and the unsaved. That is why they accuse us of hate cause to them again love means something totally different…..

  • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

    This is a very sick man. What is becoming of Humanity? I hope the people see him for what he is.

    • LynnRH

      I can’t imagine he will have many supporters.

      • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

        I also can’t imagine anyone supporting him. If anyone supports him, they would have to be as sick as he is.

  • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Pedophile rings go all the way up to the top, which is why so many are railing against Trump. His administration have nabbed a record number of pedos, more than the previous 5 administrations combined, and he hasn’t even completed one term.

    • Charles des Barres

      Trump? Ha ha ha. No. He hasn’t.
      Google “The conspiracy theory behind a curious Roseanne Barr tweet, explained”.

      • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

        Fake news. One’s a blog report and the other is about a topic not even related to the story. Read international reports and see how many pedos Trump’s administration has nabbed. It’s phenomenal.

        • Charles des Barres

          Oh, someone’s a victim of fake news all right, but it’s not me…
          I did a search for what you are suggesting and came up with nothing.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You mean like “Sex Trafficking Arrests Soar Under Trump; MSM Completely Ignores”, “President Trump Announces Elite Pedophile Ring Investigation”, “Unreported: 1,500 pedophile arrests made nationally since Trump took office ” (the last one’s over a year old, so the numbers are actually much, much higher).

          • Charles des Barres

            Sigh…I DID request credible sources.

            Daily Wire and Your News Wire are far-right, clickbait-riddled fake news sources.

            The system appears to be flagging my reports on these sites as spam, but do a media fact check on them. It’s not hard.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Can’t you add? Just add up the numbers yourself. Record numbers of pedophile caught. Good job, President Trump!

          • Charles des Barres

            Which has what to do with your garbage sources, exactly?

          • Lily Of The Valley

            Has Trump himself made any claims about such a thing? Knowing how he is, I’d expect at least a tweet or two about it.

            Or, you know, he’d complain about the story not getting enough “covfefe” in the media. (I just couldn’t resist)

    • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

      I think they will nab more before this year is over.

    • Lily Of The Valley

      Really? I mean, good for him if he has, but do you have some sort of citation for that?

  • Scott Smith

    Wattsa matter Nathan Larson? Got a tiny penis? You sick MF.

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    Liberals Who Normalized Incest & Pedophilia Now Have A Candidate, But He Is Also Their Worst Nightmare- ‘Man Should Be Allowed To Choke His Wife To Death As Punishment’

    • james blue

      Again He’s also a white supremacist so conservatives have something to like about him

      • hiccup1dt

        You keep saying that he is a white supremacist and associating him with conservatives. Why ? After all we all know people of color can’t think for themselves or so the Lib’s imply every minute, every day, every year. I mean according to lib’s among other things , people of color are even to helpless to obtain I.D.

        • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

          james, hates Conservatives. That’s why he is associating Conservatives with this man. He thinks Conservatives are like this man. Kind of sad. He is also a troll.

          • John O

            right on

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            James and his alts hate Christians, too.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            I guess hate is all he/they have going for him/ them.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            disappeared …..

          • Charles des Barres

            But, don’t you hate liberals?

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Charles des Barres, I will say to you something I said to “The Lily Of The Valley” From this day forward, I promise I will not make a comment. to you, I don’t like playing with BobRumba’s Trolls. I can’t stomach his hate for Christians.

          • Charles des Barres

            You have me confused with someone else. I don’t belong to anyone else and my comments are my own. I just thought if you are going to make blanket statements about others “hating” conservatives, surely you can own a similar statement about the liberals you attack.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Most of these posters are really the same person. Charles just gave himself away with a reference. 🙂

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            He thinks we are not very smart. I got james mad at me. He flagged me 🙂 Be careful with him. He is beginning to get very aggressive.

          • Charles des Barres

            Is this some kind of game to you?

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Dear Father in Heaven please help “Charles des Barres” to understand that my promise is a promise I am going to keep.. And let him know I refuse to play his games. In Jesus Name please protect Christians from him and his hate.

          • Bob Johnson

            But you are playing his games. And now you want daddy to talk to him.

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Games?? You come here to a Christian site to do nothing but troll the Christians that BobRumba hates.

            I do see God as my Daddy. My Abba Father. And you put me down for my Faith and my Trust in God, “My Abba Father”. And putting me down is your game. Tell you what I say also to my promise not not to respond to you anymore as well as Lily Of The Valley, Charels des Barres. That men the three of you can put me down all you want and I won’t respond. For you three that is a win, win, win 🙂

            But there is one thing I want to say. *W2.718281828stl2.718281828y8*, reminded me of someone who used to post here. But of course like all the others, he claimed to be a new poster here. I finally remembered who he was. Brian Westley. He had a code in his name. When you took all the letters out of the numbers you got W stl y. The problem was the two missing e’s. I found them with Calculus. And my Abba Father showed me a shortcut in finding the missing e’s. There was two ways to find the e’s. Also the Lord showed me his connection to BobRumba as well. I’ll let this be my last post to you. Have a great weekend. I’ll be praying for you and the ones you troll…

          • Bob Johnson

            No, I do not put you down for your Faith and Trust in God. However, I do find that publicly asking God to take your side in earthly battles is not a proper or noble reason to pray.

            And it was you who first called this a game, so here you are asking God “in Jesus[sic] Name” to help you win a game.

          • Charles des Barres

            Who is this big bad Bob Rumba you are so terrified of? I haven’t even seen him mentioned. If you are going to make wild accusations, shouldn’t we at least get to know who you’re talking about? I read 5 full threads here and saw nobody with that name.

          • Lily Of The Valley

            I find it rather amusing how you say you’re not going to respond to me yet you’ve mentioned my name twice now.

            Also, I gotta add, I don’t know what you’re talking about calculus for, but I saw that name before….it’s not calculus, it’s a commonly used mathematical constant. e=2.7whatever. Of course, now you’ll probably accuse me of being him, or something.

          • Charles des Barres

            Why are you writing prayers to attack me on a public forum? What have I said that is so offensive to your Christian sensibilities? That homosexuality us not narcissism? That homosexuals can feel love? What? Am I the one attacking others and screaming “liar” at them? Or is that someone else?

          • ♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

            Would someone be kind enough to tell this person that this is also a “Christian” site.Christians pray. And asking God to help someone understand something is not an attack. I made a promise not to respond anymore to this person. It is a Promise I am keeping.

          • Charles des Barres

            Are we in grade four now? “Please tell Charles” when Charles is sitting right next to you? Are you telling me that Christians believe that homosexuality is narcissism? Are you telling me that Christians believe that drag queens groom children for sexual abuse? Or that homosexuals contribute nothing to society and that homosexual monogamy is a “myth”? These are all things Amos has said, and they don’t sound like very Christian statements to me at all. So I still don’t know what your problem is.

          • Charles des Barres

            No, you just don’t like the fact that more than one person can be disagreeing with you so you grasp at straws.

          • Henry J. Richards

            No, they/we are all different and distinct people. Don’t you realize how desperate you sound?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Talk about making a blanket statement.

          • Charles des Barres

            Thanks for making my point.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            That went over your head.

          • Charles des Barres

            Nope. Yours. Since she make a blanket statement to begin with.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You’re flailing.

          • Charles des Barres

            Try harder.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            LOL

        • james blue

          Hmm. That’s interesting.
          You take no issue issue with amos saying liberals have their candidate because he’s for pedophilia and incest, but a response of the same tactic bothers you.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            FYI …. the KKK …. started by DEMOCRATS …… those who wanted Jim Crow Laws …. DEMOCRATS …… and it was REPUBLICANS that ended formal slavery in this country ……….. those who are predominately for sexual depravity in the public square and deserving of protection …… DEMOCRATS ….. and hey guess what …. they identify themselves as LIBERALS ……. History is cruel ……

          • james blue

            And what happened after the civil rights era? I know the historical past of the south, do you know the present?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I usually ignore you, but here goes: Robert Byrd, the KKK Dragon, used the “N” word on television, Hillary’s nephew joined the KKK, she made the racist “CP” joke on television, and Bill Clinton said Obama would have been serving drinks to him only a few short years ago. African Americans, seeing how much Trump cared about them, started leaving the Democratic Party Plantation in droves, and became Republicans, just like Martin Luther King, Jr. Any more questions?

          • james blue

            You’ve got one Dixiecrat who had a change of heart. After the civil rights era the Dixiecrats felt betrayed and left the democratic party. they briefly tried to be independent but eventually found a home in the republican party. I’m from Texas, I grew up in that era. I know the history, I lived it.

            I have no idea what conspiracy site you get your “history” and “news” from, but it’s not doing you any favors.

          • Charles des Barres

            I just busted him on that, he’s using sources such as Daily Wire and Your News Wire which are far-right, clickbait riddled jokes. He didn’t provide his sources but Google knew where they came from.

          • james blue

            This site doesn’t allow links. If your comment contained links it was put on auto moderation it will stay there forever.

            “She” is from Canada and seriously has no idea what the subject is about.

          • Charles des Barres

            No, it didn’t include a link of any kind. The system just identified it as spam. It’s a Disqus issue I think.

          • james blue

            Then there might be a word in there that set the auto mod. Obviously it’s the disqus platform but the site moderator is in charge of the settings.

          • Charles des Barres

            I tried to modify it several times. But I don’t think the guy I was sending it to would have been interested in seeing his sources exposed as fake news anyway.

          • Sven

            Guest verified was correct on history. You really should get educated and challenge your preconceived notions

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            There were only 3 actual people who left the Republican Party to join the Democrats. Three. I get my history from actual historical sources, not from someone on the internet pretending to be from Texas.

            I notice you said nothing about the obvious racism and bigotry of top Democrats. Perhaps you could look up who they are, all the way from “Texas”. 🙂

          • james blue

            Do you even have the slightest idea what you are talking about? Who said anything about republicans joining the democratic party? And do you think it’s about politicians?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            You’re very confused. Nice attempt at deflection though. Why don’t you try reading an actual history book upon the subject. I’m sure they have those in the country you’re from. 🙂

          • Sven

            Apparently you don’t know your political history.

          • Lily Of The Valley

            African Americans, seeing how much Trump cared about them, started
            leaving the Democratic Party Plantation in droves, and became
            Republicans

            Trump got 8% of the black vote in ’16. Better than Romney’s 6% in ’12, but is 2 percentage points really “droves”?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            I’m talking about now, not at the time of the election.

          • Lily Of The Valley

            OK then, what kind of numbers, what citation do you have to back up that claim?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            as well as you ….. OR BETTER … and false accusations that Republicans support racism is garbage ……

            A majority of blacks actually agree with Republicans on many public policy issues.Kinchlow reported a majority of blacks supported school prayer, education vouchers, faith-based initiatives, the death penalty, and English as the official U.S. language. Meanwhile, polls indicated a majority of blacks opposed same-sex “marriage,” the legalization of pot and even race-based affirmative action.

            The NAACP sued then-Gov. Bill Clinton in 1989 for violating the federal Voting Rights Act of 1965.A three-judge panel in Arkansas ordered Clinton to redraw electoral districts to allow blacks greater voting strength. This was the man considered “our first black president.”

            Republicans voted for the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965 at greater rates than Democrats did.This was true in both the House and Senate. House Republicans out-supported Democrats on the Civil Rights Act 81 to 60 percent and on the Voting Rights Act 85 to 80 percent. Senate Republicans out-supported Democrats on the Civil Rights Act 82 to 60 percent and on the Voting Rights Act 97 to 74 percent.

          • james blue

            Again ignoring what happened after the civil rights era and the southern strategy. You know I’m right.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            already answered that …… COWARD democrats sought cover in the GOP ……. “the southern strategy.” ….. hmmmm ….. that was CLINTON …. was it not ….. seems that you are calling democrats racists ….. thumbs up …. you get it ……..

          • james blue

            No the southern strategy was not Clinton. You don’t know what the southern strategy was, do you?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            as i have already stated ….. racist KKK members changed their party designation to “R” and the purpose was to draw attention from “D” KKK members and to be able to accuse “R” of doing what “D” have always done ………

          • james blue

            Alrighty then.

            Are you concerned that trump’s tariffs are going to raise the price of the foil for your hats?

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            so again … just epithet and ad hominem ….. from the faux “christian” ……..

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            “Hillary Clinton We created Al Qaeda”

            on the YOU TUBE machine …… HRC TESITIFIES before congress on this matter …… youtube>com/watch?v=qXmQF7DdWEs …. change the > to a . ……… HER OWN WORDS ………….

            maybe HRC should worry about her hat foil shortages ………..

          • Lily Of The Valley

            The “southern strategy” was Clinton? That’s actually almost hilariously ignorant.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            just hiilarious ……

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            Man confronts Bill Clinton publicly: Why did you fly on Jeffery Epstein’s Lolita Express 26 times?
            Former U.S. President and adulterer Bill Clinton was confronted publicly on Thursday at a public speaking engagement where the heckler showed no mercy

            By Lexi Morgan – June 7, 2018 @6:00 pm, Thu

          • Lily Of The Valley

            That has absolutely nothing to do with what I was talking about.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            so what …….

          • Lily Of The Valley

            So……so the average airspeed velocity of an unladen European swallow is approximately 24 miles per hour.

            (Well, if we’re just gonna say things that don’t have anything to do with anything….)

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            The Republican Party was founded on opposition to slavery.It was a group of like minded citizens in Wisconsin who formed a new political party in 1854 for the express purpose of stopping the spread of slavery into the federal territories. Of the 17 planks in the early Republican Party platform, seven directly or indirectly called for the abolition of slavery.

            The so-called “Radical Republicans” were considered radical because they favored not only the abolition of slavery, but complete equality for the newly freed slaves. Kinchlow noted the 1860s were long before the days of political correctness. The “Radical Republicans” had very little to gain by supporting the rights of ex-slaves to full citizenship. Moreover, it was a racist Democratic president, Andrew Johnson, who repeatedly rejected congressional Republicans’ attempts to assist the freed slaves.

            In the immediate post-Civil War years, some Democrats did not believe a black man was capable of writing a good speech.Black congressman Robert Brown Elliott, R-S.C., once debated several Democratic opponents over a civil rights bill on the floor of the U.S. House. Democrats could not refute his argument on its merits, so they charged that Elliott had not actually written his floor speech. They argued a Negro by himself “could accomplish nothing of literary excellence.”

            Almost 30 percent of Ku Klux Klan victims were white.The Klan targeted white Republicans for being “n—– lovers” who wanted to help blacks secure their constitutionally guaranteed rights. Meanwhile, the KKK became a significant Democratic constituency group, helping to elect legislators, sheriffs, judges and mayors who went on to become Klan members.

            Democrats, either by filibuster or committee, never allowed a single federal anti-lynching measure to become law.When the House passed an anti-lynching bill in 1922, southern Democrats killed it, arguing it was unconstitutional because it interfered with state and local authority. House Democrats also filibustered to death anti-lynching measures in 1937 and 1940.

            AGAIN ……….. History is cruel ……

          • james blue

            You do know history didn’t stop in the 60s?

            The republican party of today is not the republican party of Lincoln and the dixicrats found their home in the republican party. Do you know what the “southern strategy” was and why the south is solid red?

          • SR

            You make the same argument on every forum under every alt account. You get proven wrong each time too.

          • Amos Moses – He>i

            because many KKK members who wanted to become politicians sought COVER in the Republican party …… but many …. like former now dead senator Robert Byrd ….. remained a democrat and just hid his high KKK affiliations and membership ….. and HRC loved him …….. or so she said ……

          • hiccup1dt

            It just bothers me that Lefty’s always try to insinuate that righty’s are all White Supremacists , It’s all just a game to try and keep people of color in the Democrats back pockets. People are living in tent city’s all over america right now , more American people being shot in Chicago every year then at war , but with you Lefty’s it’s just (let’s play the race card) I mean really ,that’s all the Lefty’s push. Your side has nothing to offer .

          • james blue

            But you are not bothered by insinuations that liberals support pedophilia?

            I’m a “lefty” am I?

          • hiccup1dt

            Obviously.

          • james blue

            So it’s not outrageously repugnant accusations that bother you, it’s just your personal feelings.

            Mathew 7:12

          • hiccup1dt

            No actually it’s your repugnant accusations ,you playing the race card and all that. People like you make President Trump more popular every day. People don’t like to hear asses like you call their family and friends White supremacists , but like I say that’s all the left can do ,slime half the country with the race card ,that and to raise taxes. That’s the lefts message and it’s about all you got. Proverbs 10:18

          • james blue

            But amos played the “liberals are for pedophilia” card and that didn’t bother you. In fact you are obviously fine with it. I nailed your hypocritical attitude perfectly.

          • hiccup1dt

            Deflection ,typical.

          • hiccup1dt

            Oh , by the way I said Lefty’s, YOU said Liberals . Keep your facts straight now. I didn’t condemn him but I was no way being hypocritical. Something better to offer then a straw man? Like I said lefty’s have nothing.

          • james blue

            Clutching at straws there.

          • Bob Johnson

            So now you are a Lefty (liberal). And here I called you a libertarian anarchist. Oh well, YOU can not win.

          • james blue

            Libertarian, but not anarchist. I’m not against laws or regulations that are justifiable. Just my definition of justified is on a different section of the line than yours

          • SR

            He’s not even an American.

          • SR

            Exodus 20:16.

          • SR

            He’s as leftist as they come.

          • Sven

            Historically liberals have supported pedophilia. Why arn’t leftists disavowing him?

          • Lily Of The Valley

            I’m a liberal, and I said earlier in this thread that he sounds like “a grade-A scumbag”, what do you want? As for liberals “historically supporting pedophilia”…well, if you wanna look at some recent history, there was that guy running for office from Alabama who was accused of sexual misconduct with girls as young as 14…pretty sure he wasn’t a liberal. And it didn’t seem to me like a lot of conservatives were disavowing him, either. I’m not by any means saying there haven’t been liberals who were pedophiles, just saying your side has had some too. What do they say about glass houses….?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Judge Roy Moore was falsely accused and is currently suing. You might want to find a new example.

          • Lily Of The Valley

            Oh, I’m sure I can, let’s see….

            How about US Rep Mark Foley, resigned after it came out that he had sent underage boys suggestive text messages and e-mails? Republican political consultant Carey Lee Cramer, who was found guilty of molesting two 8-year-old girls, one of whom had earlier appeared in an attack ad he had been behind? Or to go a little further back, Strom Thurmond had an illegitimate child with an underage girl in the ’20s, and then covered it up. (which might also have had a little to do with the fact that it was a black girl, and he was known for being a staunch segregationist)

            Again, I am not saying some liberals aren’t guilty of the same kinds of stuff, but let’s not pretend some conservatives haven’t either. I think it’s safe to say there are some scumbags throughout all areas of the political landscape.

          • Bob Johnson

            Roy Moore is claiming he was falsely accused, let’s wait for the four court cases to be resolved before claiming victory.

          • Charles des Barres

            The accusations were not false.

          • james blue

            How many accounts do you have?

  • Sadly, can’t say we didn’t see it coming…

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    Liberal Disconnect From Reality Perfectly Illustrated In Bill Clinton Calling Himself A ‘Victim’ While Hillary Covers Up His Crimes
    – ‘Possessed And Perverted Voting Block From Hell’ Could Trigger ‘End Game’ Of Islamo-Fascist Tyranny

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    Same-Sex Attraction and the Continued Collapse of American Evangelical Christianity
    BY ED DINGESS · PUBLISHED JUNE 5, 2018 · UPDATED JUNE 6, 2018

    • Bob Johnson

      It is not just liberal ecumenicals, Evangelical and red state teen pregnancies are even higher. So in all cases – sex wins.

  • This is what happens when we slide down the perversion slippery slope.
    Were it not for the embracing of depravity that’s gone on already, this guy would never have even DARED to espouse these views…

    • btolver

      Exactly, society has gotten worse and worse. When you allow same sex marriage, this is the type of sexual immorality that follows. This person should be in jail. Not running for office. I bet he gets some votes too.

  • Actually, Larson’s personality and views are only one level lower that Donald Trump’s, and fundamentalist love Trump.

    I will be listening after the 2020 elections (if Russia is barred from electing Trump) when a liberal or progressive is in the White House and is accused of “sinful” acts, just how viciously the fundamentalists attack him or her. They’ve already run up the flag of flagrant hypocrisy in their support of Trump. As long as he continues supporting their desires to impose their religious beliefs on all of society, they love him no matter how corrupt he is.

  • Have you ever wondered how it is that America’s ended up with nothing but nincompoops, scoundrels, incompetents, immoral reprobates, and outright criminals for her civil “leaders”?

    Could it have something to do with Article 6’s Christian test ban by which mandatory bi biblical qualification were also eliminated?

    For more regarding Article 6’s Christian test ban, see Chapter 9 “Article 6: The Supreme Law of the Land” of free online book “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Online Books page, click on the top entry, and scroll down to Chapter 9.

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  • Another pervert that needs to disappear into a very deep dark ravine in the Virginia Appalachian Mountains.

    • Charles des Barres

      And no one here, liberals and conservatives alike, would disagree with you.