Group of Religious Leaders, False Teachers Surround and Lay Hands on President Trump

WASHINGTON — A number of religious leaders, including several known for their false teachings, appeared in the oval office on Monday, where they surrounded President Trump and laid hands on him.

Rodney Howard-Browne, known for the “Holy Laughter Movement” and his claim of being a “Holy Ghost bartender,” said that he had been asked by prosperity preacher Paula White, who reportedly serves as a spiritual advisor to the president, to pray over Trump.

“Yesterday I was asked by Pastor Paula White-Cain to pray over our 45th president,” he wrote on Tuesday in sharing several photos of the occasion to Instagram. “[W]hat a humbling moment standing in the Oval Office, laying hands and praying for our president—supernatural wisdom, guidance and protection. Who could ever even imagine. Wow. We are going to see another great spiritual awakening.”

Howard-Browne also recorded a video (seen below) explaining the time of prayer and noting that while those present at the gathering have various denominational affiliations and therefore “see things a little differently,” they “set aside [their] differences” to pray for the president.

In addition to Howard-Browne and White, included in attendance were Southern Baptist pastors Jack Graham, Ronnie Floyd and Robert Jeffress; Mark Burns, pastor of Harvest Praise and Worship Center in South Carolina; Johnnie Moore, the former senior vice president for communications at Liberty University; Richard Land, the president of Southern Evangelical Seminary; Tony Perkins, the president of Family Research Council; Ralph Reed, former director of the Christian Coalition; and Gary Bauer, president of American Values.

Vice President Mike Pence was also present as well, and Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, also stopped by the office.

“It was normal, what a lot of us pray when we pray for elected officials,” Moore told the Washington Post. “It was like a meeting of friends.”

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According to the outlet, the various religious leaders had gathered to meet with White House Deputy Director and Liaison Jennifer Korn to talk about a plethora of issues of importance to people of faith, including religious freedom, American support for Israel, health care, judicial nominees and other matters.

“Really wonderful visit with President Donald J. Trump and Vice President Pence after a hugely productive day-long-meeting with evangelical leaders and the Office of Public Liaison,” Moore Tweeted in sharing photos of the occasion.

Moore’s former employer, Jerry Falwell Jr., has been a staunch supporter of Trump and has repeatedly characterized Trump as a Christian. As previously reported, Falwell asserted throughout Trump’s presidential campaign that the then-candidate bears the fruit of one being born again because of his characteristic good deeds.

“I’ve seen his generosity to strangers, to his employees, his warm relationship with his children,” he said on CNN’s “Legal View With Ashleigh Banfield” in February 2016. “I’m convinced he’s a Christian. I believe he has faith in Jesus Christ.”

As previously reported, in September 2015, a number of religious leaders likewise surrounded and laid hands on the business mogul, including prosperity preacher Kenneth Copeland and TBN Co-Founder Jan Crouch, as well as TBN regulars Jentezen Franklin, Steve Munsey and Clarence McClendon. White and Jeffress were also present.

“Father, we just secure him right now by the blood of Jesus. We thank you that no weapon formed against him will be able to prosper and any tongue that rises against him will be condemned according to the word of God,” White, who leads New Destiny Christian Center in Florida, prayed as she touched his arm.

“Even as we lay hands on him right now, let Your hand be laid upon him. Let him have a greater encounter with You, a greater encounter with the spirit of God,” she said. “All the days of his life, let him live well. I secure him. I secure his children. I secure his calling and his mantle.”

White has been seen as a controversial figure, not only because of her teaching, but also because of her divorce from her second husband, Randy White, and remarriage to secular Journey rocker Jonathan Cain, who has likewise been married three times.

In a message the two delivered about marriage in August of last year, White’s new husband advised, “Ladies, if you don’t know what he likes, figure it out. Get a book. … If he likes to watch porn, watch porn with him.” The clip, which has raised eyebrows, has been posted online as a warning to others.

Consequently, the president’s selection of White to deliver a prayer at his inauguration ceremony in January was contested by some evangelicals. Catholic Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Franklin Graham, Jewish rabbi Marvin Hier of the Simon Wiesenthal Center, Samuel Rodriguez of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference and Wayne Jackson of Great Faith Ministries International also participated in the inaugural event.

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  • meamsane

    I’m puzzled! Not sure what they mean by “securing this or that”?
    “We secure him by the Blood of Jesus”. What???? “Secure his children, him, and his calling and mantle”.??? What’s his calling? What’s his mantle, his hair?? I’ve never heard a prayer like this. I recognize some of the names, must be a charismatic thing?
    To me, this is strange!

    • Donald Trump,mantle is to lead a One World Religion set up by Satan to create his own Church, this will happen when the Church and State becomes one. What you must know is this “mantle anointing” is unbiblical and is contrary to the doctrines of our Lord Jesus Christ. The group pushing this heresy is the New Apostolic Reformation. These pastors,you,see are Dominionists who believe they are commissioned by God to take over the world for Jesus Christ as modern day Crusaders (Joel’s Army) under the ruse of what Lance Wallnau refers to as the 7 Mountains…

      Please note* if you’re confused watch one of Lance Wallnau videos on Youtube where he explains 7 Mountains Mandate, he is a member of New Apostolic Reformation, also known as the NRA or IHOP(International House of Prayer) This group of locusts is devouring the faith of many people, including children, as they have departed from Bible-based Christianity. Cling to every Word of God (Matthew 4:4. putting your hands to the Though in your service to the Lord Jesus Christ.

      When it comes to the 7 Mountains Mandate. In this case, one of the mountains they aim to take over is the government under the direction of Donald Trump,(Antichrist) Once in power, remember that name– New Apostolic Reformation. Once the Church and State become one they as God’s agents will be doing terrible things in the name of God, believing they are doing God’s will and will kill peoples.

      I am not making this up I’m very serious they will be the ”Christian version” of ISIS.Dominionists are weird ,very EVIL and have evil intentions.

      • Robert

        Who would of thought?

    • This is the short version, you can Google search for more if you’ll interested!The New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) is a group of Dominionist Pentecostals whose goal is to turn America into a theocracy.

      Here are some names and groups in the NAR:
      International House of Prayer – Bob Jones, Lou Engle, Mike Bickle, Francis Chan
      Bethel Church (Redding) – Bill Johnson
      Morningstar Ministries – Rick Joyner
      Jesus Culture – Band out if Sacramento
      Chuck Pierce
      Dutch Sheets

      Rodney Howard Browne
      Kenneth Copeland
      John Arnott
      Cindy Jacobs
      Heidi Baker

      T.D. Jakes
      Mark Casto
      Perry Stone
      Paula White

      Lance Walnau
      Peter C. Wagner
      And many, many more

      • meamsane

        Thanks Sharkboy! I will look this up.

      • Cyrano

        what do you think of Rick WIles and TRUNEWS ministry. Are they dominionists? I have suspicions they are.

      • wandakate

        Wonder if Jim Bakker is also on of those “many others”? He’s really good friends with Cindy Jacobs as well as Rick Joyner. He has them on his show a lot that comes from Blue Eye, Missouri at his Morningside Ministry.

      • Robert Radford

        Spot on all False Teachers and False Prophets. Hell has a dungeon with a name tag for all of the above waiting for them.

    • The NAR is very active globally. They are workers of iniquity. In their wicked quest, they are even targeting our children through conferences, concerts, mystical schools, false signs and wonders, and false prophesies, etc.Jesus spoke very adamantly against those who cause children to stumble.Sarah Palin and Rick Perry have strong links to the NAR as well

      Mike Huckabee is a Dominionist as well.. Same as Sarah Palin

  • Amos Moses – He>i

    WOW ….. some of the greatest false teachers of the …… well i was going to say gospel ….. but i am not even sure any of them know or could articulate it …………..

    • Ginger

      So few even open a Bible to teach. Many of these one-verse wonders thinking their words are more important than God Word!
      Matthew 7:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto lie, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
      Prophets are teachers, but these are false ones only out for themselves. If they do not teach line upon line, verse by verse with clarity, IMO they are fraud.

    • wandakate

      Unfortunately it does appear that the POTUS has surrounded himself with these people (false prophets)…wolves in sheep’s clothing. He doesn’t know his Bible, he doesn’t know what it says, or it’s many warnings. He doesn’t know that it tells him NOT to be deceived. He is being and will continue to be as long as he doesn’t read or study the scriptures. He’s NOT able to discern who is real and who isn’t, or who has the honest to goodness truth and who’s false and preaching a false message.
      He also doesn’t see any need to go before the throne of grace and REPENT of his sins. He says when he does or says something wrong he just fixes it himself and tries to do better. He doesn’t know that he MUST…
      1. confess his many sins to GOD
      2. repent of those sins to GOD
      3. forsake those sins (all of them) and not repeat them anymore.

      Until President Donald J. Trump does these things he is “NOT” a Christian, and he’s NOT saved and it doesn’t matter what Jerry Falwell says or anybody else for that matter. Just being good or generous won’t get him to the coming Kingdom of GOD. You must be born again (of the spirit). He needs a one on one relationship with JESUS, who will be his final judge.
      He needs to shed his PRIDE, and his ARROGANCE, along with his FOUL MOUTH. All things that GOD “hates”.

      • Patricia Carol Lang

        How can you determine who is saved or not saved? You can’t see their heart. Only God can see their heart. Besides, you are commanded to pray for those in authority over you. Lincoln was reshaped from self-reliant to God-dependent! What if God is reshaping Donald Trump on the potter’s wheel from a strong-willed, self-made man to a humbler yet enduring prophetic prototype for America?

        • Sharon_at_home

          I liked that… Thanks!

        • wandakate

          Actually I didn’t determine anything or judge him. I am only saying what the Bible tells us…we must be born again of the spirit and of the water. I was clarifying that he doesn’t know who is good to give him advice from a Biblical standpoint.

          IF is a HUGE word, but IF GOD is reshaping him to be more humble and more open to the word then I would think that is wonderful and it would be a miracle, or a work in progress.
          I actually chose him over Hillary, but I also know that he has admitted that he doesn’t really make any mistakes and when he does he takes care of them himself, meaning that he considers himself self sufficient. When people are Christians we will know them by their fruit. Donald may become one in the future, however I do NOT see the fruits of the spirit as of today, with his attitude, his pride and his profanity…
          That’s what I was trying to bring out.

        • Robert Radford

          Patricia, though it’s true we cannot know for certain who are Born Again we can discern them by what company they keep and the President would be wise to remove himself from these con artists or end up going with them to hell.

      • Nana

        The Bible also says “judge not, lest ye be judged”. You don’t know what his personal relationship is with God. It’s personal to him, as yours is to you. New Christians need time to learn, just as older Christians continue to learn. Our job is to lift up each other, not tear each other down. He’s far from perfect but aren’t we all? There is only one perfect being and it isn’t me or you.

        • wandakate

          You are assuming I am judging b/c they is how you are perceiving what you are reading, but you are wrong in your assumption…

        • Robert Radford

          Unfortunately Nana you are in error, You quoted Luke 6:37 but left out the rest which Jesus said: Luke 42 “Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,’ when you yourself do not see the log that is in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, AND THEN WILL SEE CLEARLY TO TAKE OUT THE SPECK THAT IS IN YOUR BROTHERS EYE” So in fact Nana we can judge Jesus says, BUT only after we are in a fit moral state to do so.

      • cv

        Wanda: I am confident that God can and does sometimes choose flawed instruments to convey his will. Now I ask you: Who else could have walked through the veritable storm of hate and vitriol that Trump endured? And lest you believe that would have been a unique experience to him, recall what the media did to Ben Carson, a paragon of humility and a true follower of Christ. It would have been the same for him. I was amazed at Trump’s tenacity, his willingness to keep slogging despite the awful storm unleashed on him. Ambition? Maybe. Love? Far more likely. Most politicians could not have lasted a week under that onslaught.

        • wandakate

          I am in total agreement that he is “tough”. He perseveres under circumstances that most would fail at. He had tough skin. He has a lot of experiences dealing with the hard cases, the tough guys. He’s a professional businessman. He knows how to call the shots…
          I admire his human strength and abilities, etc. I admire that he is profession and knows a lot about what he is doing. I admire the fact that he is brilliant.

          I am also NOT judging him, b/c it’s not my duty to do so. What I am saying here is that the scriptures in the Bible plainly tell us to JUDGE righteously, and that we WILL know them by their fruits. All are sinners. And Christians should know when they sin they MUST confess it, they MUST repent of it, and forsake it.
          Donald Trump has stated that “if” he sins he will handle it, take care of it himself. He doesn’t see a need to repent to GOD. That my fellow readers is nothing outside of his “PRIDE”. He is a very “PROUD” man in his own accomplishments and he is also “ARROGANT”, he BOAST and BRAGS on himself. Nobody else has to do that b/c he seems fully capable of doing that himself.

          The LORD has give to me a discerning spirit so I am able to see the man for what he is.
          He is NOT displaying the fruits of the spirit, he instead displays PRIDE (GOD hates pride), he displays his ARROGANCE, as well as a boasting/bragging nature. He is a womanizer, and even at 70 you can see he still flirts with the women that he finds attractive, even though he is a married man and has a very attractive wife.

          He’s not a bad President, better for sure than Obama ever was and for sure better than Clinton would have ever been in a million years…
          Is he a GOD fearing man, is he saved, does he confess his sins to Almighty GOD, does he believe that JESUS CHRIST is his one and only savior, or does he believe he’s capable of saving himself?????

          I can’t answer any of that…I just believe that things are NOT always as they seem. A man that is a real true Christian will display that in his talk as well as his actions…I am still waiting and hoping to see these things.
          By the way my name is WANDAKATE, not Wanda.

    • Robert

      What do you mean ? Its all in 2nd wrapyourloinians chapter 2 .

      • wandakate

        He apparently means II Thessalonians in the bible. That’s in the new testament.

  • FoJC

    This is pure evil. If the same demons that fill these ‘laughter’ people get inside and control the POTUS, it’s going to be even a bigger freak show than it is already. Paula White is just one of the false jezebel type preachers within this movement. It has nothing to do with the power of the Holy Spirit, but definitely has everything to do with spirits. Don’t think for a second it’s just a mind game or parlor tricks. There are actual demons at work.

    This will fly by most people who just don’t realize how significant this even is to the country and government. This stuff oozes the putrid false gospel the Devil has been wanting to use to control the people of America. Catastrophic. People better wake up or they’re going to find themselves being duped into the Darkness and Delusion that is spreading across America.

    Follow Jesus, find Wisdom.

    • wandakate

      You are correct, and we know (if we know our Bibles) that JESUS warned us about the end days. He warned about false prophets. He warned about greed and how people will love themselves, and have pride. He told us plainly that ONLY those who persevere will enter into the Kingdom of GOD. He told us about peacemakers, the pure in heart, the merciful, the ones who are meek. He told us we would be blessed when men reviled us and persecuted us and even said all manner of evil against us falsely b/c of Him.
      The warnings are there. Our friends and family will turn against us.
      We are NOW living in that time period and ALL of these things are NOW happening. Look up, do you hear the sounds of the 4 horsemen? It won’t be as long as it has been. We MUST get right with GOD and start obeying Him and not evil man that is out to meet his own agenda and to stab us in the back the first chance they get. Nobody is going to escape. ALL of the seal and trumpet judgments are for “everybody”, but the last 7 bowl judgments will ONLY be for the unrepentant sinners b/c the scriptures tell us that the church is NOT appointed to the WRATH of GOD. Therefore the church will be removed just prior to JESUS glorious appearing. It’s going to be a PRE-WRATH RAPTURE of the church and not before the antichrist comes but instead it has to be AFTER, b/c scripture tells us that it’s AFTER those days, NOT before those days. Don’t be like the President, don’t be confused and deceived!!!

    • Patricia Carol Lang

      I am glad SOMEBODY is praying in the White House! Praise God! Let us turn again to our Christian heritage to lift up the soul of our nation! Thank God for a President who will humble himself in prayer!

      • FoJC

        People have been “praying” in the White House for decades. The issue is if it’s prayers of Faith (that which is received by those who hear and believe the Word of God, Jesus Christ). The false apostolic/prophet/prophetess bunch don’t hear from God, they hear from and channel demons and their power. Not only is this important to realize, but also to reject. Unfortunately, the vast majority of the people in America have rejected Jesus and embrace no religion, false religion, or false Christianity.

        The USA doesn’t have a soul. It’s a country, not a human being, and Donald Trump is as far from humbling himself under the mighty hand of God as a person can get. He i$ a pawn of fal$e Christianity.

        Follow Jesus, find Truth.

      • wandakate

        Yes, however we must know WHO he’s praying to. Not everyone that prays is praying to GOD/JESUS FATHER in heaven. Some people pray to Allah, some pray to satan (yes they do). They don’t all pray to GOD the FATHER or JESUS CHRIST the SON of GOD.
        Beware and cautious, b/c things are NOT always as they seen.
        That’s like someone being in a church, just b/c they’re there doesn’t mean they know JESUS one on one. They may only be there to socialize, or to warm the pews and gossip. We never know why they are there. Most are there for the right reasons, but many however are NOT!

      • Robert Radford

        There is praying to God and summoning help from an outside source Patricia. These people know not the God of Jesus Christ.

        • Patricia Carol Lang

          Please stop judging…You don’t know these people and you certainly do not know their hearts because you are NOT God. I pray the Pharisaical spirit will be broken in your life!

  • msicairos

    Is there enough evidence that president D. Trump is a true christian? He’s he born again? Does the living resurrected Holy Spirit live in him? Has anyone ever heard him pray? Why would a genuine saved person allow false teachers to lay hands on him and pray for him? If the Holy Spirit live in him; He’s complete in Christ Jesus; He has received all the inheritance that Jesus has given to us all who are his legitimate children. 2Pet.2:1-2, 2 Tim.3:1-7. We are to test all things with the Word of God. You will know a tree by its fruit.

    • That is correct, Donald Trump, is the Son of Satan,Multiple failed marriages, multiple failed businesses, many court cases, both civil and criminal. He’s a sexual predator, which he has boasted of. Now is when we use our discernment, and no matter who is under strong delusion, you don’t have to be. Prayerfully consider all information, and do not be pressured to follow the crowd. Follow Christ. You will be glad you did.

      There enough evidence that president Trump is the Antichrist, even though I was given a revelation about who he is”. Millions of Born Again Christians” have said he is the Antichrist he surrounds himself with pastors that deny Jesus is the Christ, and pastors that claim we are little God’s. Trump will be the one who sets up Satan’s One-World Religion. He promises he will get a peace deal done and it will be the FINAL”Peace deal in the Middle East.

      Donald Trump,has raped repeatedly, scammed repeatedly, and allegedly,raped children, pedophilia, by definition, along with convicted pedophile,, Jeffrey Epstein, his best buddy. He is a defendant, right now, sued by Katy Johnson, who claims that Trump and Epstein raped her and another little girl, in 1994, when she, and the other child, were twelve, and thirteen, respectively. These females, now adults, are represented by Gloria Allred. Watch him settle ASAP, to make it go away, like he did, with The Donald Trump University scam

      According to these plaintiffs, Trump and Epstein, flew the girls from Palm Beach County, FL, to NYC, on a private jet, for a sex party, featuring children, for sex with adult perverts, crossing state lines, a federal crime. Yet, no federal probe, no state probe, nothing. One, can only conclude, that extreme wealth, makes one above the law.

      • wandakate

        According to author Tom Horn it’s the Pope that will set up the One World Religion that will join together Muslims, Christians and the Catholic church into ONE religion.
        I don’t think that’s the antichrist job, but the job of the HRCC. That’s what I have heard and read.

      • Patricia Carol Lang

        what LIES….You are in danger of the judgment!

  • akagaga

    One week after I was born again, I was drawn into a local charismatic/pentecostal church. Having been raised in a Dutch Reformed church, this was a whole new way of looking at things. I learned a lot. I became acquainted with the Holy Spirit. The Lord opened my heart to the scriptures. But when the Lord knew I was finished there, he opened my eyes to the things that were not His will, and drew me away.

    I believe that the President is truly seeking God. We should trust that the Lord knows how best to touch the President’s heart, and that He watches over him no matter who is praying for him.

    • Trump has already said Allah is God”, Just recently on his trip to the Middle east he bow to the King of Saudi Arabia,He dances to their islamic sword dance. He calls Islam one of the three great religions. That is a lie Islam is not a religion. The gospel of Trump is self-love and self-worship. God delivered America over to Antichrist because it is an evil ungodly anti-Christian nation full of sin and hate

      I believe that the President is truly seeking God??? I just told you on his trip to the middle east (Trump called Allah GOD). Besides that with all the hate that comes out of this man’s month and the pride this man has in himself.Let me ask if you are a true Christian do you actually think all this man has said about other people the hate that comes out of this mans mouth, the way he mocks the disable and is robbing from the poor and elderly. a man that says he has never had to ask God for forgiveness we all sin and come short of the Glory.This man puts himself above God and says he can do anything like go out and shoot somebody and his followers will still follow him,

      Trump lies and contradicts things he previously said, he is a man who lives in a Gold Penhouse in NYC, The Trump Tower has a designed number of 666 on it’s building, he has never once mention the name of Jesus in 2017. Trump surrounds himself with Billionaires and false pastors ( Paula White) that claim Jesus isn’t God’s only begotten Son and We ARE ALL LITTLE GODS

      • akagaga

        Do not speak against one another, brethren. He who speaks against a brother or judges his brother, speaks against the law and judges the law; but if you judge the law, you are not a doer of the law but a judge of it. There is only one Lawgiver and Judge, the One who is able to save and to destroy; but who are you who judge your neighbor?
        (James 4:11-12)

        • wandakate

          We were told to judge righteously. And also just voicing one’s own opinion doesn’t necessarily mean they are judging anyone, they just have an opinion and express it verbally.

          • Sharon_at_home

            To Judge the Sin righteously, we are not supposed to judge the person because we cannot see their heart, Patricia Carol Lang
            was right in that fact. God is the only Judge of the person, we judge the sin and whether we would be able to reach the sinner and teach them about Salvation and repentance. To bring more people to Jesus. That’s what our duty is.
            God bless!

          • wandakate

            What you or Carol consider “judging”, I consider voicing my opinion…I’m NOT judging Trump, I am only expressing an opinion that the man will display the fruits of the spirit IF he is really saved. He’s not doing that thus far. I do understand that having him as POTUS is better than Hillary would have been.
            Again I am NOT saying that in the future things won’t change for him, but until then my opinion remains the same. Real Christians aren’t supposed to be PRIDEFUL, ARROGANT, BOASTFUL, VULGAR speaking or use PROFANITY. JESUS would not be that way…We as “real Christians” are supposed to emulate JESUS ways, and NOT the ways of this evil world and it’s people. Remember they had those bracelets WWJD (what would JESUS do). Does Donald Trumps behavior remind you of JESUS behavior? ONLY when JESUS got very angry and threw down the tables in the temple courts. And that was a “rare” occasion for Him.

        • Robert Radford

          Please look at Luke 6v42 and understand it’s wrong to tell Christians not to judge. Infact we can but only when we are in a position not to be judged ourselves. This important please understands this as it’s a common mistake made by Christians today.

      • wandakate

        Saying we are all little gods reminds me of what the Mormon’s believe. The members of the Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints believe that we can be enlightened to become little gods.
        If one has a discerning spirit, they can look at Paula White or Howard Rodney Brown or Kenneth Copeland, Rich Warren, Joel Osteen, T.D. Jakes, and others and know they are false preachers. Trump has surrounded himself with the wrong crowd b/c he simply doesn’t know any better. He doesn’t know that TRUTH that could set him free…

      • Patricia Carol Lang

        You would rather have had Jezebel and Ahab?

      • wandakate

        What you have brought out is correct. And some people think he is the antichrist…but that’s not been proven as of yet.

  • Nedd Kareiva

    I think we’re denigrating these people too much instead of thanking God for them. I mean, would you rather have these men & women surrounding Trump or would you rather have the pro-abortion, pro-homosexual marriage “ministers” laying hands on Obama?

    I happen to be one of those who know this “holy laughter” quite well. Rod’s brother Gil Howard-Browne came to a church I attended in the 90s (think this event was around 1995) for a series of meetings & launched this strange doctrine. Although I saw folks lifted out of their misery & problems with Gil’s ministry, it was fairly obvious that this was a manipulative event, demonstrated by Gil’s tickling to get people to laugh louder and harder. After the event, a few of us spoke to our pastor & he eventually agreed that this was not something his church should have been part of and regretted it.

    I never heard of Rod as a Holy Ghost bartender but I do agree that any Christian who names the name of Jesus cannot rightly be one.

    Paula’s divorce, remarriage & prosperity message should certainly be called into question. But let’s remember thru all this that God uses flawed people. My Lord, Jesus is going to sit on the throne of David in the new millennium and David was an adulterer & murderer. In light of his past transgressions, are we going to condemn all wealthy preachers as heretics & false leaders unworthy of the gospel? I readily admit some should be scorned but all of them at the White House? Sorry, I disagree.

    With all due respect, Heather, your story is overloaded & overkill. Our president is in dire need of prayer. That said, I would love to see these men & women come together and pray for the end of abortion & same sex marriage and then go out into the highways & byways until it comes to fruition. If these folk do that, no one will care about their prosperity message.

    • God uses flawed people, GOD does not use peoples that deny his Son Jesus Christ”, Paula White claims Jesus is not God’s only begotten Son. MAN can become little Gods”

      The Bible does not support women pastors.—

      Paula White’s God is Satan, she preaches a different gospel, she serves Satan.

      • Nedd Kareiva

        I agree with you on women pastors, totally so, would never sit under one, but you know, God can use them in their own right. I think it’s a stretch to say Paula serves Satan but that’s your opinion. I disagree.

        • BuckeyePhysicist

          Come to the Catholic Church and say no to women in spiritual authority.

          • Vanessa Loy

            Maybe if they had some women in authority, the RCC wouldn’t have a child abuse problem.

          • wandakate

            They exalt Mary (JESUS mother) as their authority do they not? And they still have a HUGE child about issue as well as a HUGE homosexual issue and ORGIES at the Vatican…

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            Feminism is an ugly quality to have.

          • Nedd Kareiva

            I left the Catholic Church almost 40 years ago & have never looked back.

          • wandakate

            Apparently the HOLY SPIRIT must have warned you that that church wasn’t the right one…Oh how blessed you are!

        • wandakate

          ANYONE who denies that JESUS CHRIST is the SON of GOD is NOT a Christian, they are fake and of the devil.
          Scripture tells us that.
          He who denies the SON, denies the FATHER who sent Him. JESUS said, “I am the way, the truth and the life, and no man can come to the FATHER but by me”. JESUS, the ONLY way to the FATHER. There is ONLY 1 GOD of heaven and earth, we humans can NOT ever be “little gods”. Nowhere does scripture tell us that. It’s just NOT Biblical, absolutely NO foundation there to support this at all.

          • Nedd Kareiva

            Did Paula deny Jesus? That’s news to me.

          • wandakate

            Did PAULA deny JESUS? Who’s Paula?

      • wandakate

        YES, the apostle Paul did say that women are NOT to preach…Hello PAULA WHITE, hello JOYCE MEYER, hello CINDY JACOBS, and any other WOMAN preacher out there…Men were to preach, not women. GOD created MAN and after that WOMAN. That was so that man was the head and the women was to obey and serve the man within reason.

        • wandakate

          Search the scriptures and you can see that Paul instructed women NOT to preach…Also if you check out the “false ‘prophets” listing on You-Tube you will find Paula White and Joyce Meyer both on that list along with Joel Osteen, Kenneth Copeland, Rick Warren, Joseph Prince and other well know preachers.
          The scriptures also warned us that in the end time (now) there would be “many” false prophets. They would be wolves in sheep’s clothing. We have many many of them at this time. Just saying to check the word of GOD, it never fails and people need to know the truth. When we know the truth, the truth will set us free.

          • wandakate

            This comment was supposed to go to shark boy, but somehow it’s addressed back to me. That was a mistake.

    • Paula White Claims She Is A Better Preacher Than Apostle Paul … She claims PAUL one of Greatest teachers known to man was boring. and that God wanted her to be rich. Have some BIBLICAL discernment for once! She is a known heretic and prosperity preacher. TEST THE SPIRITS AND READ YOUR BIBLE! 1 John 4:1

      SATAN LOVES YOU! You are everything he wants in a Christian. NO Discernment, Jesus says BEWARE of wolves in sheep clothing but that’s not a discern for YOU! Just read your silly question, are we going to condemn all wealthy preachers as heretics & false leaders unworthy of the gospel?

      YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!!! READ Galatians 1:8, 2 Corinthians 11:4

      NO OTHER GOSPEL! NO Turning away read Galatians 1:6-12

      • wandakate

        ANY gospel that is NOT Biblically based gospel is FALSE GOSPEL!!!
        JESUS told His disciples to GO and preach THIS GOSPEL to all the world. It was about the coming Kingdom of GOD on earth.
        What other gospel is there? If JESUS didn’t say it then it’s not worth anything, not worth talking about b/c it’s not biblical.
        BEWARE, Be watchman on the wall, discern the truth. When we know the truth, the truth will set us free (in the word of GOD). We were told to be aware, awake and alert to everything that was going on around us. We are to know the signs of the times so we’re not deceived.
        Donald Trump doesn’t KNOW the truth. He is being persuaded by these people. That may not pan out well in the end.

    • READ Galatians 1:6, I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting the one who called you to live in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel–

      Are we going to condemn all wealthy preachers as heretics???We were never meant to be made millionaires off God’s Word. The Apostle Paul proclaimed; “For I take nothing for it.” (Sharing and spreading the Gospel) Read what Jesus said in Luke 9:3

      Worldly riches deceive us away from God and Christ, not towards him.
      Those who do this will stand before the judgment of Christ and he will say; “Part from me for I never knew you.”

      • Nedd Kareiva

        Paul did say in I Cor. 1 that “not many wise, mighty & noble are called & he also said elsewhere that the rich have a greater temptation & are at greater risk of falling away from the Lord. I tend to concur with your premise on millionaires but God can & does use some of them for his purpose. My hope with these wealthy men & women of the gospel is that they use some of the resources they were blest with to help overturn much of the godlessness in our culture instead of enrich themselves with an increasingly lavish lifestyle & possessions. The concerns of yours are valid in a sense, bro, but at the same time I don’t want to totally dismiss them out of hand.

      • wandakate

        JESUS said, that many on that day will say to me LORD, LORD. And I will say to them “DEPART from me, I never knew you”. Their FAITH without their WORKS is dead.
        Donald Trump may have done some good works and been generous but he lacks the faith to go with his works, which means it’s dead.
        Can your faith alone save you? NO…
        Can your works alone save you? NO…
        Faith must be accompanied by works for the coming Kingdom of GOD or it’s not valid. It’s obsolete, it has no foundation.

    • Do me a favor, don’t reply just READ Your Bible spend less time away from the internet.There is only ONE GOSPEL THAT SAVES! All the others from prosperity gospel will SEND YOU TO HELL! The LAKE of Fire is Real.

      IF I WERE YOU!!! I wouldn’t sleep! I would beg for God’s forgiveness ASAP

      • Nedd Kareiva

        Sharkboy, notwithstanding some of your valid points, you have a few things to learn. You need to step back & look at the overall picture. First, I thoroughly disagree with you that the prosperity gospel will send you to hell. Rejecting Christ as Lord & Savior will. There is a scripture that says those who choose to be rich are at risk of falling into snares & temptation. One is at risk of it, true. But not all who are wealthy will do so. I think you stereotype way too many saints into that mindset. There is ZERO wrong believing in a prosperity message UNLESS that message replaces the gospel of salvation message. That is why I prefer to say I believe in a prosperity message than a prosperity gospel.

        I’ve been born again, Spirit filled for almost 40 years, a few of those years in full time ministry. I am well balanced in the faith. I believe in prosperity, as I outlined in the last paragraph, but that does not define me, nor is central to my Christian faith. I also believe in balance. When you have as many years in the faith as me and are in my age bracket (late 50s), then come talk to me. As it stands, with all due to respect, your posts come across far more emotional than substantive (IOW, lacking substance). I stand by my comments & original opinion.

        • wandakate

          Was JESUS a prosperity gospel preacher? He wanted our SOULS to prosper. He wanted us to prosper spiritually, not financially. That scripture has been rearranged to make it appear that he wants US to all be rich with material possessions and financially set. NOT TRUE.

          It’s a “spiritual” prosperity, and had NOTHING whatsoever to do with our finances, huge homes, lavish cars, and lots of money in our pockets…
          People are DECEIVED and misguided in believing these preachers along with the hyper grace preachers, and with the health and wealth preachers and the pre-tribulation preachers and the name it and claim it preachers!

          • Nedd Kareiva

            You didn’t address my points. I came out of the prosperity gospel message. It goes beyond scripture. But you’re not going to convince me that they are going to hell when they die. It’s unscriptural. These preachers didn’t reject Christ as Lord & Savior. They just took the message too far. If they’re going to hell, then so is almost everyone who sins. Sorry, your thinking is a bit too extreme for me, pardner.

    • Reason2012

      Our president is in dire need of prayer.

      Which can only come from born again believers in God, not wolves in sheep’s clothing who are not only still not saved, but mocking God / Christ with their “ministry”.

      • Nedd Kareiva

        I totally agree, he needs our prayers. As for whether those men & women are saved, by their fruits we shall know them. I believe most of them are. My desire, as I noted in another post, is that they will use the power of their positions to reverse the abominations of abortion, same sex marriage & Islam. If they would do so, revival, no, revolution would occur across America (ala the Book of Acts). If they would do so, their prosperity gospel wouldn’t matter to me. In fact, I would more likely to subscribe to it because they chose to be salt & light as Jesus outlined in Matt. 5:13-16. They would have total credibility, at least with me.

    • Patricia Carol Lang

      God is dealing with the church right now. Judgement begins at the house of God. Those who are corrupt will be exposed. I truly believe this is happening right now. He is also dealing with individuals. He is their judge and not me. Every failure is taken to the cross where the ground is level for everyone who desires to humbly seek our Lord. Father God is doing a great thing in our country. We need to see with spiritual eyes and pray that His will be accomplished in our nation. God will use who He pleases to accomplish his plans and purposes. If He can use Rahab the Harlot who is mentioned in Joshua and then again in the Great Hall Of Fame in Hebrews, then anyone, I mean anyone can be used. Why is it that the scripture always refers to Rahab the HARLOT? God wanted us to get that! He really did!

      • Nedd Kareiva

        Your comments are spot on, PCL. I can’t argue with any point you made, though I’m not 100% sure God is doing great things in America but I pray you are right. Our country is in a moral abyss. Your Rahab illustration is excellent. Thanks for some good sane thinking.

    • wandakate

      Who’s better to surround Trump?????…NEITHER of those groups of people. We are warned in scripture to be awake, aware, alert to the signs of the times. Cautious thinking and making sure there are no warning signs, no red flags anywhere is the key to being smart.
      Evil is evil and it doesn’t matter who is presenting it…one’s as bad as the other. If it’s NOT the bible and it’s not the truth, then it’s not worth anything.

      • Nedd Kareiva

        Your inflexibility on this matter speaks volumes, Wanda. Your thinking implies that only perfect people should surround our president to pray for him. Tell me, who would you say is best at doing so? We’re all flawed mortal creatures, subject only to the mercy & forgiveness of our Lord Jesus Christ. Some folks there may be errant in their scriptural views, admittedly, but so what? Based on your Pharisaical thinking, no one should. I cannot accept that mindset. I would never tell any Christian of any stripe that they cannot lay hands on & pray for our president. A Muslim, absolutely not as their faux god is not ours. But most anyone else, heck yeah! We need to unite, not divide & conquer, which your post suggests.

        • wandakate

          Paula White says we can ALL become little gods. What? She says she’s a better preacher than Paul who was quite boring. WHAT? Sound like she’s pretty high and mighty in her opinion of herself, even after being married 3 times. And the President also had a “high” opinion of himself and has been married I think 3 times also. She preaches and the Apostle Paul said that women aren’t to preach.
          JESUS said…”go and sin no more.”
          JESUS said…”If you’re not for me, you are against me”.
          JESUS said “you shall speak the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
          JESUS wasn’t flexible either. He got very angry when the money changers were selling their wares/goods at the Temple and He told them, “My FATHER’s house is a house of prayer, and you have made it a den of thieves.” He showed NO flexibility there did he?
          Our GOD is an “all or nothing” GOD.
          We’re either saved or we are unsaved.
          We’re either going to heaven when that time comes or we are going to hell. There is NO in between.
          JESUS said, “Only those who persevere will enter the Kingdom of GOD.”
          JESUS wasn’t wishy-washy…. He meant what He said.

          The people who prayed for him may not have been praying to the GOD of heaven and earth. They are influencing his decisions and can persuade him to make some bad choices according to their own agendas.
          I stand totally by what I have said, and am not swaying b/c of it. People either know what they’re doing from a spiritual standpoint or they don’t! You have an opinion and I also have one. We’re all different.

          • Nedd Kareiva

            I’m not disagreeing with the bulk of your points. I agree, there is no grey when it comes to the scriptures you cited. However, if we adopt an inflexible mindset, that benefits no one. What I’m saying is we are an imperfect people. We are to strive for perfection (Matt. 5:48). But I see no wrong in having imperfect Christians (of which Paul is one) praying over our commander in chief. We’re all imperfect trying to become more like Christ. If we wait til we are perfect before we do, guess what? We never will.

            For the record, I suppose Paula used 82:6 regarding the passage about us being gods. It’s not a verse I would build doctrine around. But it is a legitimate verse. Heck, Jesus quoted it (John 10:34). It’s not something I would say. But it’s not entirely wrong to say so.

            OK, we’ll agree to disagree.

          • wandakate

            I understand what you are saying even though I don’t agree. It’s interesting how people thing so many different thoughts on one topic. Blessings.

  • Edmundo Dumapit Addeb Lao-at

    Why not Franklin Graham to do the prayer?he’s not a false teacher

    • Franklin Graham, is a known good friend of Scientologist” Greta Van Susteren, What many Christians don’t know is Scientology teaches “There was no Christ” and Greta is a dedicated Scientology member. He is a false teacher..

      Why would any so called Godly person surround themselves with Satanist??? The founder of the Church of Scientology was heavily against Jesus and deny he exist.. if you don’t believe me just read about it on the internet.

      Search for Jesus in Scientology on wikipedia

      • Robert

        Just maybe the guy does not want that gal to die in her sins and is using friendship as a bridge to the gospel! .or maybe not why not email and ask the guy?

    • Once your done, search for Scientologist” Greta Van Susteren and Franklin Graham. You must listen to the bible, please test the Spirits to see if they are from God 1 John 4:1

      2 Corinthians 6:14, Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

  • InTheChurch

    Any gay pastors praying for him? he attends a church that supports them.

    • wandakate

      What churches now support them? Catholic, Episcopal, Lutheran, Anglican. Are there anymore? What church does Trump attend if any?

      • InTheChurch

        Episcopal church in DC. Many denominations have changed their view.

  • Elijah Luthor

    What people need to know is that (President) Donald John Trump I is NOT the Antichrist. I believe we can wholeheartedly agree that these heathen false prophets and teachers are of that “antichrist” spirit. These people must be won to true and genuine salvation in Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. Or, if they remain unrepentant, they shalt suffer capital punishment for High Treason and heresy against the Creator, and for Treason against the American Republic and the liberty and sovereignty of the people. When people start spewing all of this “Antichrist” labeling, especially with a capital ‘a’ – “A” – they are proving that they themselves are not students, and certainly NOT scholars, of and for the Holy Scriptures. The real Antichrist ‘man of sin’ and ‘son of perdition’ will be an Assyrian. According to the prophecies in the Old Covenant Book of Ezekiel, he will arise – as can be discerned from the reading – from within the borders of Lebanon and form a new country physically based or headquartered on the ancient foundations of Tyre, a city on the Mediterranean coast. People also need to be reminded that Assyrians are a S[h]emite people whom are neither Hebrews or Arabians. Therefore, the Antichrist himself will not be an Hebrew or an Arab, however he may have blood ancestors whom will have been. Whilst I am on the subject of correctly identifying ethnic nations,
    Persians are NOT Arabians; they are Indo-Europeans; just in case people identify them wrongly.

    As for our sitting president here in America, Donald Trump has to be schooled-up on a great deal of knowledge and wisdom regarding [non-denominational] true Biblical Christianity. His person is surrounded by serpentine individuals whom do not have the best interests of the Republic at heart because they are unbelievers and are what I call “denominational sectarians.” True Biblical Christianity is non-denominational. Every sect and denomination is total and complete false doctrine and their adherents practice false worship. Denominations take one or few doctrines from the the Holy Bible and build religions around them teaching and preaching matters that are not at all Biblical or Christian.

    Also, the Word of God specifically forbids womankind from ever serving as political rulers and spiritual leaders. Mankind was created in the image and likeness of Our Lord God the Creator to be an image and reflection of His eternity and majesty. Woman was created from the genetic material of Man to be his helpmate, consort, and partner always with Man being the superior of the two and Woman being under subjection to sovereign patriarchal male authority. However, the role of Man and men is to NEVER treat the fairer sex by the way of tyranny and abuse or under slavery and the role of Woman is to NEVER usurp male authority as feminists wickedly seek to do. Lord God’s laws, commandments, and covenants forbid women from ever being or
    serving as sole female monarchs (queens regnant), rulers, or political chief executives or for them to serve as pastors or preachers. Mothers have every right to rear their children begotten
    from their womb in the Holy Scriptures but they are NEVER to head or shepherd a congregation of believers. That is not to say they will not be blessed with gifts from the Holy Spirit because men and women will both dream dreams and women Christian believers can prophesy. In God’s original design for Creation and humankind, mankind was to and is to always serve as a King Regnant (chief executive, political leader or ruler, father, husband) and an High Priest (spiritual leader) through the agency of the Holy Spirit and guided by the Word of God. Anything contrary to this creates degradation in human civilization and is wholly an effrontery against our Heavenly Father’s specifically designed patriarchal structure.

    Therefore our President requires being guided firstly by the Holy Spirit and for him to obtain spiritual discernment so he can rightly divide ‘the Real Truth’ from wicked, heathen falsehoods. He must also anoint himself and put on the whole armour of God and never again be “counseled” from women or any other false prophets in spiritual matters. By the grace of God, he must stop immediately cease listening to these evil ‘denominational sectarians.’ Glory to God in the highest and God save the American Republic.

  • Elijah Luthor

    One way a true Biblical Christian can automatically detect someone is NOT a TRUE Christian is if they are not scholars in the Word of God. For example, if such people practice, encourage, and proselytize the celebration of Christmas and Easter, which are PAGAN events and therefore ARE NOT Biblical or Christian, these individuals are not true believers and they are not true and faithful Christian scholars. The word “Easter” is in the King James Version to allow the Christian reader know what world history was taking place alongside Biblical recorded history. Easter is a pagan festival that was celebrated by the (Edomite / Idumean) [usurper] Herodian kings of Judaea along with their Roman occupiers. Easter has nothing to do with the Hebrew Passover, originally founded by Moses in ‘the Book of Exodus.’ The only thing Easter and the Passover have in common is that they take place around the same time of the year; springtime. Christmas is based from the pagan Roman festival of Saturnalia and a whole host of other nonsense.

    Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ WAS NOT BORN in December. Emmanuel Yehoshua or Ha’Adon Yeshua Ha-Mashiach (The Lord Jesus The Messiah) was born on September, Wednesday the 11th, 0003 B.C. at 07:00 P.M. – local Jerusalem time – in Bethlehem, Province of Judaea, Roman Empire [Julian-Augustan calendar] on “the Feast of Trumpets” (Rosh Hashanah). Now, counting back exactly 280 days for a perfect pregnancy, Jesus was conceived on December, Wednesday the 5th, 0004 B.C. Also, Jesus was crucified – The Messiah was cut off in the midst of the week – on April, Wednesday the 25th, A.D. 0031 on the Day of Passover with He being the actual Passover passing away around 03:00 P.M. local Roman solar time. Jesus was age 32 years, 7 months, and 14 days old when He died on the cross. Jesus remained in the grave for three days and three nights. He resurrected on Saturday evening before sunset or dusk on April 28th. The news of His resurrection having already happened was not learned about by anyone until the first day of the week: Sunday. So, to any of you believing the Roman Catholic or any other denominational garbage – not to mention completely incorrect mathematics – of a FRIDAY crucifixion and SUNDAY resurrection had better read the Holy Scriptures and study world history far more intently than ever before. Jesus being buried before sundown on a Wednesday was so He could be interred before a “High Sabbath” on a Thursday which is ‘the day of unleavened bread.’ Since the Hebrew people count days beginning at sunset, this means that Jesus and the disciples observed the Passover meal, Jesus’ “last supper,” on the evening before the day he was crucified but still on the same Hebrew day. Now, Friday is ‘the day of preparation’ as it precedes the weekly Sabbath which takes place on the last day of the week: Saturday. Beginning on the first day AFTER the Resurrection, Jesus remained on the Earth for an additional forty days to finish out His messianic ministry, much of which is chronicled in the Gospel of Bartholomew. Jesus Christ corporeally departed Planet Earth when He ascended to Paradise located in the Kingdom of Heaven on June, Thursday the 7th A.D. 0031. The Messiah was born in the Year 3998 After Creation and was accused, tried, sentenced, executed, resurrected, and ascended in the Year
    4031 After Creation. As of A.D. 2017, the events of A.D. 0031 took place 1,987 years ago, NOT “2,000 years ago.” From birth to ascension, Ha’Adon Yeshua Ha-Mashiach was physically on Planet Earth as ‘the Son of Man’ for 32 years, 8 months, and 27 days or 11,957 days.

  • Elijah Luthor

    Now, people reading my words are going to do the math and find that 2017 minus 31 equals 1986. But, what a moment there! According to the true Biblical solar calendar of rendering dates in chronological numerical order, we are now in the Year 6018 After Creation. When using the scientific and mathematical calculation methods from the Gregorian calendar system and accounting for every date ever mentioned in the Bible, and matching all of that with reliable and provable astronomy and world history, Creation Week can be correctly ascertained. When
    using Gregorian calendar system dates, Creation Week took place from March, Sunday the 19th, 4001 B.C. through March, Saturday the 25th, 4001 B.C. Also accounting for the proper placement of leap years and their divisions from Creation forward, we arrive at 6,018 years of
    existence. Genesis 1:1 makes perfectly clear that is when ‘time, space, and matter’ were created and “the heaven” being talked about is the cosmos or universe, NOT the Kingdom of God or the Kingdom of Heaven. The Holy Bible chronicles human history and humankind’s seed from Adam and Eve down to Jesus Christ Himself truly making ‘History’ “His Story.” As far as rendering dates are concerned, this means that March 19th of every Gregorian Year is
    actually the real first day of the Biblical solar calendar year and that March 18th is the last day of the year. How fitting that Creation Week took place during the same time the season of “Spring” begins. Doesn’t that just make perfect sense?! 😉 And lastly, let us consider the true mathematics of history. Beginning from the Julian-Augustan calendar date of March 19, A.D. 0031 begins the Year 4031 After Creation. The last weeks of Jesus’ ministry and His remaining time physically on Earth as ‘the Son of Man’ took place after this date. 6,018 minus 4,031 equals 1,987 years ago. There! 🙂

  • Cyrano

    What struck me is that Rodney Browne had to immortalize himself by taking out his cellphone to take a selfie of his and his wife’s hands laying on Potus So as to be “seen of men”.no reporter was there to take this picture.and to make sure the world saw him he took it himself to put on his Facebook page. That is his reward in full.

  • As a rule, I have avoided Christian media stars. I read the word of God every day and I stay out of politics. Jesus told us to preach the Gospel to the lost. If we had done that for the past 30 years, this would be a different country. Instead we stay in our church bubble and gather teachers who will help us have success. Now I am not against success and prosperity as long as it gets paired with humble generosity. I am continually asking believers and pastors of evangelical churches to support Good News Clubs, which lead children to Christ in the Public schools. It is like pulling teeth. Very few respond. These prosperity preachers wouldn’t be a blip on our radar of the rest of us would just do our jobs and save sinners.

    • BuckeyePhysicist

      You should come to the Catholic Church. We don’t preach a prosperity gospel and we have our own schools.

      • wandakate

        OH please…talk about being deceived and programmed and brainwashed. Thanks, but no thanks.
        The Vatican is in the news today for having all male sex orgies in Rome.
        The Pope is changing everything around, their priest are molesting the children right and left along with many other teachings that are NOT in any way, shape, form, or fashion Biblical and you want people to join the Catholic Church?
        They don’t preach a prosperity gospel?
        The HRCC just happens to be the “most” wealthy church in all the world with millions of members, so how did that happen?
        Why don’t you get a book and read up on that church? I bet you would be surprised at what you would find there. They’re listed in my “Book of Cults”. And Mary is a saint. Can Mary save you? ONLY the Son of GOD, JESUS CHRIST is able to do that for you. Where is purgatory? Is that in the Bible? We’re either saved or unsaved when we die, and there is going to be heaven or hell for everyone “after” JESUS appears and raises the dead, there is no “middle” place where we will be going in the meantime.
        There is too much to mention here, read some books and educate yourself before it’s too late.

      • I was raised Catholic and went to a Catholic High school. There was no gospel there, and my priest told me it was not necessary to read the Bible.

        • BuckeyePhysicist

          Something tells me you might have slept through class. Our priests taught us the Scripture as students page by page and I learned SO much! You heard the entire Bible read at Mass in three year cycles too. Might you have slept through Mass as well?

          • We clearly went to different schools…

          • wandakate

            He was reading from the Catholic Bible and NOT from the real Bible of JESUS CHRIST.
            They have changed the working in it. Even the 10 commandments were changed when they took the first one and made it two instead of one.
            Do they honor the 4th one? Most churches don’t. It’s tradition to follow “man’s” laws and “not” GOD’s laws…

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            How do you know your Bible is real? It’s probably in English — which is problematic.

          • wandakate

            Oh goodness…I would have to asked you the same question about the Catholic Bible.
            The English translation was translated carefully from the original scripts. Hebrew, Greek, Latin and Arabic. The original scriptures were all inspired by GOD and of course penned by human souls (men).

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            Arabic? BAAHHAAAHAAAHAAAHAAAHHH!!!!!

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Spell check probably changed Aramaic to Arabic. However, wandakate’s point is still clear. Look, I like you, and so I’m goin to address this: the catholic church has been known as antichrist for generations. It is not the true nor the original church. History proves that. It doesn’t rely upon the Word of God but upon the traditions of men. It is responsible for much of the bad things done in Christ’s name, such as pedophilia, persecution, murdering of Christians, etc. etc. Please get yourself a solid Bible (KJV for one) and prayerfully read through it. Pick up biographies from former catholic priests and nuns.

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            Why would I read the testimony of apostates?

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            The Bible isn’t the testimony of apostates. It’s the Word of God.

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            I was taking about the testimony of former priests as nuns who deserted the Church. Of course the Bible is the Word of God. We Catholics brought it to the world.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            Jews brought the Bible to the world. catholics killed Christians who published it.

          • BuckeyePhysicist

            That is so incorrect I don’t even know where to start. First of all, the Catholic Church collected and canonized the New Testament around AD 400 which is approximately 1100 years before the first Protestant crawled off the rock and decided he knew better than God.

          • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

            That’s completely false. There was an entire church prior to the organization of the catholic cult. It wasn’t Protestant and it wasn’t catholic. It was Jewish.

        • wandakate

          I actually believe that Don. Hopefully you’re OUT of there now.

    • wandakate

      We Christians can’t SAVE SINNERS as you have said. The LORD JESUS CHRIST is the only one capable of saving sinners. We can pray for them, we can intercede for them on their behalf, but we are NOT able to save them. “Only” JESUS can save them.
      What can wash away my sins, NOTHING but the blood of JESUS…
      What can make me whole again, NOTHING but the blood of JESUS…

      • OK, hymn-quoter, I’ll try the Bible on you: Jude 1:23-24 tells to be merciful to those who doubt, save others by snatching them from the fire, to others show mercy, mixed with fear.

        We have a necessary part to play, apart from praying. Jesus told us to GO and preach the Gospel. Paul asks us, “how can they hear, without a preacher?” Yes, without the work of the Holy Spirit no one can be saved, BUT, He is not willing that ANY should perish. As far as I can tell, most of us are quite willing and do nothing. So, are you one of the “disobedience teachers?” I think they’re lower than the prosperity teachers.

        • wandakate

          We reach out to the lost, we testify, we witness, we let them know what JESUS expects of them.
          We don’t SAVE them ultimately. Only the HOLY SPIRIT is able to do that. And NO I am NOT one of those “disobedient” teachers.

          • You left those out last time.

          • wandakate

            Well thank you Don for bringing that to my attention. I guess I didn’t say everything all at once and perhaps I should have, but I’m only human and I don’t always think of everything when I should all at once.
            I think it’s called “in hindsight”…
            When even JESUS Himself spoke, it was NOT all at once. He would give them information in bits and pieces. Here a little there a little, and I guess that’s somewhat what I was doing.

          • Yes, and I should have more completely articulated all the component parts of salvation in my comment about having more important things to do by than attack prosperity preachers. Isn’t that why you jumped on me to begin with?

  • “He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.” (Proverbs 28:9)

    QUESTION: What law is Trump’s ear attuned to: 1) Some form of his own law, 2) The biblicallly seditious Constitution, or 3) Yahweh’s immutable/unchanging moral law?

    I know which one he swore to uphold at his inauguration:

    “…[I]t must not be overlooked that even if Trump proves himself more of a Cyrus than a Nimrod, but still doesn’t become a David, all the good he accomplishes can just as easily be undone by a future President and Congress. This demonstrates the incredible volatility of the Constitutional Republic.

    “As contrasted with Yahweh’s immutable moral law as the standard for government and society, there’s no enduring continuity in such capricious traditions. They provide a never-ending cycle that invariably will send America over the precipice. Alleged conservative Presidents like Trump periodically keep other alleged conservatives happy just long enough to keep them from searching for the real solutions for society’s woes.

    “America needs more than just a Cyrus. She needs a David who will look to Yahweh as sovereign and His law as supreme. In order for Trump to be a David, he’ll need to give another inaugural speech that includes something akin to the following:

    ‘Today marks the beginning of a return to what made America great: Our 17th-century Christian Colonial roots when they formed governments of, by, and for God established upon His immutable moral law, as contrasted with the humanistic government of, by, and for the people based upon capricious Enlightenment and Masonic traditions, responsible for America’s fall into degradation and disrepair.

    ‘I, therefore, Donald J. Trump, renounce my oath to support and defend the biblically seditious Constitution of the United States Republic, and in its place I now look to Yahweh God of the Bible as the only sovereign per 1 Timothy 6:15, His son as my Savior per John 14:6, and, in turn, I swear to uphold only His moral law as the supreme law of the land per Psalm 19:7-11.

    ‘May America bless God again!’”….”

    For more, see 4-part blog series “Donald J. Trump: Cyrus or Nimrod? Letting Trump Speak for Himself: Biblically Examining Trump’s Inaugural Speech.” Click on my name, then our website. Go to our Blog and scroll down to Part 1.

    If you, prefer a 2-part audio series by the same title can be found on our Audio Messages page. Scroll down to T 1099 for Part 1.

  • Patricia Carol Lang

    The ground is level at the cross! If God can use David who failed miserably and he can use Rahab the Harlot then He can use anyone He chooses. After all, He is God. He calls the unqualified and qualifies the called.

  • Mark Gallagher

    Yes, they are all false or at least lacking spiritual discernment; which ALL Christians have, to one degree or another~!
    Yes God put him on this “throne,” to do HIS sovereign will, not to bring back America~! The only nation that will be saved, now, is God’s chosen Israel~!
    God uses many to accomplish his will, and many who may never repent and come to know Yeshua~!!!
    We should pray for the president, we are called to in Scripture, however, we should pray that God uses him for HIS GLORY, and the rest it will take care of itself; according to HIS will~!!!!!!!

  • This was a great photo op for the base voters of a president who is as anathema to the commandments of Jesus as anyone can be.

    This is my main argument with fundamentalist religion, believers are far too easily led by the emotional rhetoric of self-serving politicians, and Trump is the most self-serving president in our history–a man with an open history of deceit and cheating people out of their money. That most of the evangelicals still support him is a great testament to the effectiveness of the Ignoble Lie. He is no more religious than I. The difference being that I am honest, trying to do unto others as I would have them do unto me. A version of that is in the Gospels, but most evangelicals ignore it.

  • Guest✓ᵛᵉʳᶦᶠᶦᵉᵈ

    Pray for your President, Americans. God can do anything.

  • HpO

    IF ONLY right, sister Heather Clark?

    IF ONLY it’s because Rodney Howard-Browne was “laying hands and praying for our president” Trump, that “we are going to see another great spiritual awakening”!

    IF ONLY that’s going to happen because James Robison had told the Almighty Himself, “We believe, dear God, that the stage is set for the next great spiritual awakening”!

    IF ONLY that’s going to happen because “God showed” Jeremiah Johnson “that there are going to be several historic and significant gatherings of believers contending for a third great awakening under the Trump Presidency”!

    Won’t that be great? No, it won’t, ONLY because God doesn’t work like that, but Satan does. God works ONLY through Christ Jesus and the gospel of salvation through His crucifixion, burial and resurrection. Say again, ONLY. Anything else is the work of the Anti-Christ.

  • cv

    The words in the Bible are deep and I note that many of us may think we understand them and later realize it was deeper than we realized. “If your eye is open, your body is filled with light.”

  • Robert Radford

    Lets be clear about this, President Donald J Trump is not a Born Again, Spirit Filled, Bible Believing Christian. He would like to think so but that’s not the case. Mike Pence appears to be but if that is so, then why does Mike not explain to the President not to surround himself with all this False Teachers and False Prophets who have done great harm to the name of Jesus Christ in their time on t.v. Check your wallet is still there Donald after letting these crooks lay hands on you. Christianity stands alone and it is like the Rod of Arron it has life coming from it not like the rest of the other rods laid beside Arron’s Rod which symbalises all religions false religions and dead.
    A True Born Again believer will never pray with Islamic people, or Hindu people or anyone else who are not Christians! There is no other God but YAHWEY and His Son JESUS CHRIST. Learn this Mr. President and then ask God to come into your heart and you may just get there.

  • Sherry Chestnut

    I’ve seen Rodney Howard Brown and he is the real deal I cant vouch for any of the others that was there.